#building-and-recc-chat

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cloud oasis
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U like

pallid summit
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I'll be going with a single 2tb nvme

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I don't like the motherboard

cloud oasis
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ok

pallid summit
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it's missing wifi 6 and bluetooth 5

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and a bios flash

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the liquid cooler makes me uncomfortable because of the more limited warranty on it

cloud oasis
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Its really good

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Watch reviews on it

pallid summit
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lol it's sold out on newegg

cloud oasis
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its available for backorder no?

pallid summit
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I've seen reviews and they are good but the warranty is 2 years instead of the 3-5 years on others

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there is no backorder availability.

cloud oasis
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its really good

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and 2 years is a lot

gritty zenith
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why are people so scared of air cooling tho

cloud oasis
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big

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Fat

gritty zenith
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arctic freezer 34 duo is an excellent cooler

cloud oasis
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And ugly

gritty zenith
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tf u mean

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looks noice

cloud oasis
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Whats the best air cpu cooler

pallid summit
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but I don't know how efficient it is

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but I don't like the look of air coolers in general

cloud oasis
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Same

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Actually idc that much

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I just want good performance

pallid summit
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liquid outperforms air by a large margin

cloud oasis
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yeas

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actually air does

tawdry goblet
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70$ ML240L from cooler master works for me very well

fleet pagoda
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What happens if ur water cooled thing leaks

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Or drips

tawdry goblet
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Which is a good deal of money but for the AIO is good price

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Warranty @fleet pagoda

unborn flicker
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If you kno wwhat your doing air is more then enough

tawdry goblet
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Air is good too

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But liquid is quiet and usually better l

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Unless you go for beefy noctua

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Coolers

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Pretty even performance

unborn flicker
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Ive got the hyper tx3 dual fan setup and im more then happy with temps on my i7 10700k

pallid summit
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most air coolers don't look nice though

hazy rune
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Noctua Chromax look great

pallid summit
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it only looks nice because it's a semi gloss black. but the design is very utilitarian

crude hazel
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Heyy guys and gals, I need some help with building a high end pc used for gaming, video editing, photoshop and streaming. Kinda went crazy and was thinking which components were worth the price tag. This is a sample build i formed and was hoping for technical reasoning support Thanks 🙂 https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/xRqBPV

junior crescent
muted haven
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@junior crescent Yeah thats a solid system but theres a prebuilt on newegg thats like 900 bucks less with similar specs

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just ping me and ill send the link here : )

pallid summit
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that's kinda sus

muted haven
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i can send the link rq

pallid summit
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you can post the link here

muted haven
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its honestly not a bad prebuilt

pallid summit
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they live in Australia

muted haven
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ohh so shipping costs?

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er prices would be different?

pallid summit
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also things are generally more expensive there

muted haven
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yeah

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i mean its a solid system but idk how much upcharge it would be for another country

pallid summit
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it looks like they are cutting corners

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3000mhz ram

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it doesn't say what parts they are using

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it's not a bad machine though

muted haven
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yeah

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yeah thats the thing they could use a slower ssd

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i wonder how much those kind of machines will cost in a year

pallid summit
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prebuilds are generally not great value for money

muted haven
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true

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I got a prebuilt recently and its not an amazing deal but its not bad

little osprey
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Just booted the PC up, and its working like a charm! This 3080 is insane. I just ran benchmarks and the results are unparalleled.

muted haven
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nicee

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my 1650 could never lol

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also random question but I was wondering whats the difference, if any, between an i5 4690 and i7 4770?

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i looked on a cpu website and they seem about the same except the i7 has 8 threads

balmy patio
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that’s the difference

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you answered your own question sorta

stoic island
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There's a lot to improve for their list, but don't forget AUD to USD conversion ;p

muted haven
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Ahh kk

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Thanks 👍

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There wouldn't really be a noticeable difference in gaming though right?

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Like light/medium gaming with a mid tier gpu

stoic island
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Not really, but remember, double the threads for that future proofing it one isn't much more expensive :)

muted haven
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True

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Thanks!

keen falcon
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I have a old pc (2012) should I upgrade it or should I bulid a new one? Any suggestions

slow valve
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Is this a good system for Gaming, streaming, editing and game development?

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Also the CPU may change if once i see the specs in action for the Ryzen 5000 series

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I'm new too PC building so i don't know if everything is okay for this

little leaf
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@slow valve very much bad

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Ssd overpriced

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3700x bad choice if you can wait for 5000

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Dont buy windows for 100 dollars

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Dont get samsung ssds in short

jagged ember
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SSD definitely overpriced

little leaf
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Get mp34s

jagged ember
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just skip the samsung ones yeah

little leaf
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Dont get x57

jagged ember
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why not a 550?

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maybe a 460?

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not sure what that board is built for though

little leaf
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What is a 460?

jagged ember
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the b460 is a thing, right?

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or am i going crazy

little leaf
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No

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Lol do you mean b450?

jagged ember
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no, it's an intel thing

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nvm

little leaf
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Wtf?

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Lol ik its intel

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Were looking at amd

jagged ember
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lol i realized afterwards

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probably a 550 would be enough for the use case right?

little leaf
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Just come back when your building and I recommend waiting for ryzen 5000

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@slow valve

slow valve
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KK

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@little leaf well what would you recommend in terms of storage and motherboards so that I can get ready for either 5000 series or if it's not that good I can go with the 3000 series?

little leaf
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Mp34

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And b550 pro vdh for like 5600x 3600-3700x

jagged ember
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👍

slow valve
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Okay thanks

junior crescent
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Is the 2060 still worth it?

green wren
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I suppose if you can get it for hella cheap it is.

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It’s all about cost to performance.

little osprey
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I can't wait for tomorrow

inland parrot
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At best buy whaaaaaaatttt

little osprey
foggy bough
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Hey i have the innovator J3 case and my gtx 1070 ti is doing quite a bit of noise so i want to put another case fan in, i have only a 80mm case fan for exhaust so can i flip it to intake and drop one more on the rear? but im not sure if that will impact my cpu cooler because it will be negative airflow ( cpu cooler drags in air and the rear case fan i want to put inside my case does the exact oposite)

acoustic barn
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Hey guys

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got a quick easy question. Haven't built a computer in 12 years.

I got the DDR4-4266 ram before the processor and I'm looking at the Intel i9 10980XE. I think it said it supports 2933 MHz DDR4 memory. Does that mean my ram is not going to work?

foggy bough
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yeah

inland parrot
deep skiff
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@acoustic barn it should work just enable xmp in the bios and it should run at 4266

acoustic barn
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I got a ASUS Prime X299-Deluxe II. Been reading the user guide but it's not much help

sharp bear
uncut pelican
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2060-2070 series too since those are cheaper actually
@arctic junco Thanks for the response

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What im going to do is try to buy a 3070 but i will still get a 1080p monitor

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But then it will allow me to get a better monitor later

night iron
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Nice setups @austere condor @little osprey

winter iris
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I need support here I just got deadpool pack for case fan 5*1 and this is the product https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HN199YJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_aLWIFb6N4SWHH
And I have Aorus b450M motherboard
And I don't know how to install it how to connect to each fan to other with hubs and which one wire I put in motherboard...any help pls ?
Btw case model is Cougar mx330
Will install 2 in front that get in air and 2 top and rear for get air out
Thanks in advance .

old kernel
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maybe you know guys..
which power cord got the aorus 7?
2/3 prong?

little osprey
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@winter iris I can help

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Also I recommend 1top and rear as exhaust

small osprey
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@sharp bear its pretty good, the ssd eh, I recommend team mp34 512gb. Dont get 2070, 3070 much better deal for same price. Rmx psu is better than rm. otherwise its good

little osprey
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@small osprey but is the 3070 easily available for him?

small osprey
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I mean no but if u can get the 3070

arctic jungle
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@little osprey take the front panel off for a better pic of the PC

stoic island
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3070 always good to wait for if possible

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It's just much better value at the same cost

stuck sonnet
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Hey ! @stoic island mind if I ask ya some rgb fans questions?

stoic island
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Uh I'm not a rgb guy so I might not be able to answer, but go ahead.

stuck sonnet
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I am new to the whole rgb stuff. I want to add rgb fans. Do I have to buy a whole new set of fans with a hub that supports them? The case i have comes with 3 rgb fans already.

stoic island
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So, does your current case have a hub or no

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Or are all of your fans plugged directly into motherboard?

stuck sonnet
stoic island
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@small osprey not sure if you noticed, the list has 3600c18 ram

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Yea td500 mesh is supposed to come with a controller, lemme see which one

stuck sonnet
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Oh yea it does . So a hub is come with it huh

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The controller was a surprise to me lol

little osprey
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My corsair did too

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If it comes with a hub, you can by the fans that are supported by it, no need to buy fans that come with one

uncut pelican
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How many intake fans you think?

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Id i have three fans total

stuck sonnet
viral ore
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yeah, but 22 per fan?

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rgb cool n all, but

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22 per fan

small osprey
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@stoic island oh yeah 3600mhz cl16 ram better

winter iris
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@little osprey can I talk in private ?

mild bronze
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Ihave i7 10700k with a gtx 1660. what about yall

frozen anchor
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Hi guys, i am playing game on my i3 3rd gen proc, 8gb ram, rx570 gpu. At 1080p fps avg 40-55. Do i need to upgrade my pc?

mild bronze
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damn

little osprey
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if u wanna more performance and better gaming experience yea, of course

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@frozen anchor

frozen anchor
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@little osprey what would i get if i upgrade? I dont understand

small osprey
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Better performance duh

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And better fps, etc etc

little osprey
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Lmao exactly

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Better gaming experience in overall, i said it before

frozen anchor
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@small osprey i am happy with my 45 fps, so why would i spend money

small osprey
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Then why u ask

little osprey
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@stoic island send me a 800$ build when u can pls

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or anyone else

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ping me

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if u do

lofty rampart
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Can you send me a less than 2k build with rtx 3080 gaming x trio or aorus rtx 3080 max covered cooling (has to be great for call of duty warzone)

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ping me if u do but do @little osprey before mine

little leaf
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@lofty rampart look at my name

little osprey
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uhh, hmm, yea...wanna rate my pc?😎

sturdy leaf
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Sure

prisma stag
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@little osprey yes

little osprey
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15fps at minecraft with low settings lmao

weary bluff
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@granite imp how do you play like that, your neck is always at an angle looking right and left lmao

strong radish
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Can I overclock my i5 9600k with a 212 evo cooler

dapper solstice
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no

hollow dew
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hi, I have questions about Build Your Own Custom PC. So when I custom PC in here. Will Newegg assemble the whole computer and install software for me?

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@royal pelican

dapper solstice
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lemme check

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oo

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dont do that

cloud oasis
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MonkaW

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banned :gachiPls:

dapper solstice
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dont ping newegg

cloud oasis
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Should i get custom watercool loop

dapper solstice
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uh do you need one?

cloud oasis
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i want to

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But i feel it would be really hard

dapper solstice
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might want to watch a few tutorials

cloud oasis
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Should i

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or not worth

dapper solstice
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probably not

cloud oasis
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I feel like its gonna leak

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If it does ill literally cry

dapper solstice
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its more for aesthetics

cloud oasis
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isnt the performance better

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Nvm

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Imma just stick with arctic cooler

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And put fans at max speed

dapper solstice
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@hollow dew i dont think they will build it for you

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its just to set specific parts that you want

granite imp
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@granite imp how do you play like that, your neck is always at an angle looking right and left lmao
@weary bluff I mean my chair swivels. So I just don’t sit facing directly at my desk. They’re barley pitched, so when sitting at the desk, it’s really not bad

hollow dew
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@hollow dew i dont think they will build it for you
@dapper solstice Thank you, bro! So sad !

fleet pagoda
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@foggy hazel sorry for ping but yesterday that build thing u showed me my uncle said there is only one psu slot or something and i would need 2 or something like that id have to ask him again

foggy hazel
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post the link @fleet pagoda

fleet pagoda
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It was from this u send me

foggy hazel
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the only thing i can translate your comment to is this:

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"there is only 1 GPU slot"

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Dual GPU use is dead. and has been for years

fleet pagoda
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Oh okay ill have to msg him again

foggy hazel
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that pink port is the one he is talking about (is my guess)

fleet pagoda
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It might be idrk much abt these things so ill call him when my grandpa gets home

foggy hazel
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aye aye

gritty zenith
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imagine not building your own pc NYEHE

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ok but in all seriousness its fun

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diy

stoic island
uncut pelican
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Theres no pre-order for 3070 correct?

stoic island
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mhm

uncut pelican
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So ima have to order it day of if i want one within the next month

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?

stoic island
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basically

night iron
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Did you have to look hard to find the unifans for your build? Cause I have to wait until October 30 to buy some. @onyx shuttle

nova tinsel
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Can anyone make a PC for me at PcPartPicker under $3300 please?

small osprey
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K wait a sec

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Something like this

foggy hazel
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@small osprey wrong link (again)

small osprey
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Ikkk sryy

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Lmao i keep doing that cuz im on phone

foggy hazel
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also, just ... no.

small osprey
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U can add ram and storage

onyx shuttle
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Did you have to look hard to find the unifans for your build? Cause I have to wait until October 30 to buy some. @onyx shuttle
@night iron I managed to snag 2 3packs, and the rest of my fans are generous corsair high static behind the rads, and thermaltake pure plus 12 for the non lian fans. Once I can get them, I plan to change all visible fans to the uni fan

foggy hazel
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@small osprey that build makes just about zero logical sense

onyx shuttle
small osprey
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Lmao well he asked for 3k build

foggy hazel
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@small osprey ask what he plans to use it for.

small osprey
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It was kinda hasty, i didnt have time to properly make it

foggy hazel
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you automatically assumed a bunch of things about use case. Please dont :)

little osprey
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Hello

small osprey
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Mm ok

cloud oasis
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if hes gaming

deep skiff
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3k budget and only a 512gb ssd :v

little osprey
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Bad

cloud oasis
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wym bad

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Intel good for gaming

little osprey
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Lol nothing just messing around

cloud oasis
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good single core performance

foggy hazel
deep skiff
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IF you actually are gonna use the full 3k id at least wait until we ryzen 5000 or 11th gen if its coming soon instead of buying a cpu that will be beaten in a few months

cloud oasis
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yea

winter iris
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I need support here I just got deadpool pack for case fan 5*1 and this is the product https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HN199YJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_aLWIFb6N4SWHH
And I have Aorus b450M motherboard
And I don't know how to install it how to connect to each fan to other with hubs and which one wire I put in motherboard...any help pls ?
Btw case model is Cougar mx330
Will install 2 in front that get in air and 2 top and rear for get air out
Thanks in advance .

foggy hazel
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page 14 in the mainboard manual

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@winter iris

night iron
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Cool I got an email from a company saying they will have more unifans in stock on October 30 and told me to buy them fast. @onyx shuttle

inland parrot
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So it the 2060 better than the 2070

foggy hazel
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no

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is the 2060Super very close to the 2070? yes

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is the 2060Super better than the 2070Super? no

inland parrot
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But for someone who is going to upgrade later should i get the 2060 super

foggy hazel
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that is your choice

inland parrot
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Your right

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Will it support a B550 mobo

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I am planning on buying a 2060 super since i will be upgrading later in the future

foggy hazel
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any gpu works in any mainboard (if remotely modern)

inland parrot
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What do you think is the best modden motherboard of 2020 that is B550

foggy hazel
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depends on your IO needs

inland parrot
foggy hazel
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you could just take a mainboard with wifi and save yourself a bunch of money

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also, that m.2 is not exactly good

small osprey
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^^ and why do u need 750w psu

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Unless ur future proofing

foggy hazel
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read up @small osprey

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:)

small osprey
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Ah upgrade later

inland parrot
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Too late already bought the psu, the wifi card and the case

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About to buy the cpu next

foggy hazel
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you can still return it

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and why are you buying piece by piece?

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please dont do that :)

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save up, buy it all together

inland parrot
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Money wise and got save up from school too

foggy hazel
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save up the total for your machine.

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The reason for doing it that way is this:

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IF there is something wrong with it. You are still in the "easy to get a replacement from the vendor" period

inland parrot
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Ture

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That is why i want to make sure that i have every thing set and stone for the motherboard and the gpu before i buy those

foggy hazel
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aside from the case and GPU

small osprey
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@foggy hazel if u r looking for deals u can do one by one

foggy hazel
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@small osprey i think you mean it the other way around :)

small osprey
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Oh can lol typo

inland parrot
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Can i stick with the psu that i had before

foggy hazel
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what i linked is better, but sure

small osprey
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Rmx better

foggy hazel
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if you absolutely want

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it was not RMx

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it was just RM

small osprey
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Rmx is better than rm

inland parrot
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I have to choose that on amazon

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I bought the rmx one

small osprey
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Rmx is good

inland parrot
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Just have to wait for it to be in stock

foggy hazel
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your list had a RM version

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how are we to know that you bought the RMx?

small osprey
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Mm

inland parrot
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Amazon lets you choose bewteen rm and rmx

foggy hazel
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and again. IF you dont tell us, we cannot know :)

small osprey
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So does pcpp

foggy hazel
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you linked RM via your PCPP list :)

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so, based on what you said above @inland parrot

small osprey
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Lol naed u should change ur nick to naed 🙂 u use it a lot

foggy hazel
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i have to ask: What else is NOT like what you linked?

urban light
onyx shuttle
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Cool I got an email from a company saying they will have more unifans in stock on October 30 and told me to buy them fast. @onyx shuttle
@night iron bet! If you don't mind, dm me who?

gritty zenith
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@urban light assuming you have a case and case fans it looks alright, would like to see at least 16 cas latency, but for that specific ram, to get it at 16 cas you'd have to pay more than double.

urban light
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Yeah I have a case it the lian li Pcmr edition. I looked up the cl16 and 18 and most people said they couldn’t tell the difference

gritty zenith
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yeah, cl16 is preferable if you can get it at a similar price (like $10 more i'd cop that) but definitely a rip off at $100 extra

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alright then i think that build looks fairly reasonable

uncut pelican
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I know I've already answered this question but, anyone have some tips for a first time builder? I could use some quick advice

stoic island
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Did I give you advice already or nah

gritty zenith
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but if you are gonna wait that long for a ryzen 5000 series you may as well get an amd gpu

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I know I've already answered this question but, anyone have some tips for a first time builder? I could use some quick advice
@uncut pelican read the manuals

uncut pelican
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Did I give you advice already or nah
@stoic island yeah you were the only one haha

stark bramble
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*assuming amd is actually better lol

urban light
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I dunno anything this will also be my first build

stoic island
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Aight

stark bramble
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who knows they might botch drivers and rtx again

uncut pelican
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*asked this question

gritty zenith
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i dont mean to sound rude but manuals help first timers

uncut pelican
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Manuals seem like a good idea

stark bramble
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yes always read the manual b4 looking online or smth usually it helps

gritty zenith
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also, make sure to buy reputable brands

stoic island
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Meh

gritty zenith
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well yeah

uncut pelican
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I read reviews and stuff like that

gritty zenith
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bq doggy vs br

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pay attn to compatibility

stoic island
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It's like who knows about ADATA before knowing about computers?

uncut pelican
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Ive got a bunch of my parts im mo4e of a hardware person

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Then a software

gritty zenith
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okay

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you already have your parts then?

uncut pelican
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A bit scared for booting the pc up when i build

stark bramble
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lmao fr i didnt even know amd existed b4 i started learning abt computers

uncut pelican
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you already have your parts then?
@gritty zenith not all of them but a bunch

stoic island
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I just don't like the "buy from reputable brands" advice :p

uncut pelican
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lmao fr i didnt even know amd existed b4 i started learning abt computers
@stark bramble same haha

stark bramble
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lmao also brands like oloy and geil

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not many people know abt them

stoic island
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Because different brands are known to different people

uncut pelican
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I thought intel was alone in thr game

stark bramble
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but their ram is p reliable

gritty zenith
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lol i just mean don't buy unbranded chinese stuff

stoic island
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I still don't like OLOy

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Geil is fine

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OLOy is just wack

stark bramble
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whats wrong w oloy

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hmmm

stoic island
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Heatsink

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I have issues with the heatsink looking plasticy and wacky

uncut pelican
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I like corsaie parts not for everything but they seem decent

spiral zealot
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they have other memory besides the warhawk stuff

stoic island
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@uncut pelican I used to think that

stark bramble
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corsair is very nice

spiral zealot
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and it's all pretty solid

gritty zenith
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meh

stoic island
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Until I spent half a year in this server

spiral zealot
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the warhawk is just the flashy RGB stuff

uncut pelican
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Lmao

stark bramble
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lol

spiral zealot
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(is using a 32GB kit of oloy warhawk)

stark bramble
gritty zenith
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warhawk is prob the most unnecessary ram ever

stoic island
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Now I know their ram isn't great, headsets not great, PSU some are bad, Keyboards are weird

stark bramble
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warhawk cheap tho

spiral zealot
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oh it totally is, but it's cheap af

stoic island
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Yea it's cheap for rgb

spiral zealot
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an dit's been rock solid for me at rated speeds

uncut pelican
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Now I know their ram isn't great, headsets not great, PSU some are bad, Keyboards are weird
@stoic island i got their ram. . .

stoic island
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But who needs rgb

spiral zealot
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everyone, duh

gritty zenith
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meh

uncut pelican
#

I do

stark bramble
#

it works normally and its cheapest ezez

stoic island
#

@uncut pelican y tho

stark bramble
#

rgb = performance

#

duh

gritty zenith
#

i use corsair ram and prob the only thing special about it is that it will fit my itx case and they haven't died yet

stoic island
#

Low end Corsair ram has weird dies, high end heatsinks are obnoxious and wide enough to block things

stark bramble
#

corsair keyboards seem fine to me

#

im planning to get a k70

stoic island
#

@stark bramble non-standard bottom row and weird textured keycaps

spiral zealot
#

the non RGB oloy stuff is really afforable and solid performing as well though

uncut pelican
#

@uncut pelican y tho
@stoic island good ratings everywhere and i know that rgb is like my fav

stoic island
#

They're not bad, just weird.

stark bramble
#

ah

spiral zealot
#

you can get a low profile 16gb 3600 kit for $55

uncut pelican
#

Ik most people hate on rgb but i like it

spiral zealot
#

without rgb

gritty zenith
#

nah

#

rgb = fps

stark bramble
#

msot people like rgb

stoic island
#

@uncut pelican don't tell me you got the Vengeance rgb or whatever it's called

#

The wide one

gritty zenith
#

wide boi

#

just get trident rgb ez

uncut pelican
#

@uncut pelican don't tell me you got the Vengeance rgb or whatever it's called
@stoic island if you mean vengeance pro then uhhh maybe

#

;)

stark bramble
#

corsair headsets are eh i know that tho

gritty zenith
#

make sure to register all your warranties 🙃

uncut pelican
#

I also got a 3700x

stoic island
#

There's been 2 guys so far that has bought TD500 mesh and Arctic freezer ii, and now think the case is trash because their wide Corsair ram interferes with the aio

stark bramble
#

f

gritty zenith
#

lol

stoic island
#

When the issue is Corsair making their ram needlessly wide

gritty zenith
#

imagine

#

rtx 3090 be like

stoic island
#

Agh

#

And the thing is

uncut pelican
#

Im getting 3070. . .maybe

stark bramble
#

mr techie when

gritty zenith
#

lemme just use up 7 slots and weigh too much for your mobo to handle

stark bramble
#

lol

stoic island
#

I know one of them had TD500 mesh and Arctic freezer ii and G.skill ram in their list, then changed it themselves later

#

:p

gritty zenith
#

i use an air cooler arctic freezer

#

works great

#

just

#

h u g e

#

vertically

uncut pelican
#

I will get the corsair elite compelix

#

Cuz once again seems reliable looks nice and good ratings

gritty zenith
#

take breaks when you build yo stuff it will take a long time the first time

uncut pelican
#

Thats helpful i want to make sure i get the job well done

#

I will also have three different storage drives

#

Sand i have an issue with two now sooo. . .

stoic island
#

@stark bramble the real question is Mr mod when

stark bramble
#

lol

uncut pelican
#

So whenevrr i download a game it goes into my c drive, how do i fix this

#

Even though i tell it to go to my d drive

stoic island
#

Game launcher settings

uncut pelican
#

Ok ill look at that when i get home

stark bramble
#

does letter of the drive matter

#

when naming

stoic island
#

For example, like epic games, steam, origin, the blizzard one, etc.

uncut pelican
#

For example riot games valorant

#

It just goes to c drive

#

And its annoying

prisma stag
#

@stark bramble No

night iron
#

I just found from pc gear case they moved the date to December 12. I guess I will somewhere else to but them from. I can’t do my first build without the unifan 120. @onyx shuttle

idle compass
prisma stag
#

man

#

id watch some reviews on that td500

#

i bought one

#

and hated it

idle compass
#

Idk reviews on amazon are 4.5/5.0 for it

prisma stag
#

sucks if u wana put an aio on top

#

u gotta be super picky

#

or get small ram

idle compass
#

Besides the case anything else you think should change

#

?

odd crypt
#

Get a Deepcool Matrexx 50

prisma stag
#

yes

odd crypt
#

Good for wire management

#

Easy to build in

prisma stag
#

id upgrade the psu

odd crypt
#

Alot

prisma stag
#

nvidia recommends atleast a 750w

odd crypt
#

Here take my build

prisma stag
#

for 3080

odd crypt
idle compass
#

Oh yeah alr

odd crypt
#

Then upgrade from there

stoic island
#

@prisma stag it's not called getting small ram, it's called getting any ram that's not Corsair rgb or oloy warhawk

#

Quite simple :p

prisma stag
#

quit hatin

odd crypt
#

Listen to the king @odd crypt

stoic island
#

Quit hating td500 mesh lmao

odd crypt
#

Just get

#

A

prisma stag
#

yea agreed

odd crypt
#

Deepcool Matrexx 50

prisma stag
#

king has arrived

#

@stoic island

cunning knoll
#

should i have my top fans as outtake or intake?

spiral zealot
#

i prefer using them as exhaust, it that also depends on if you've got enough intake in the case

inland parrot
#

Dont worry i bought the rmx one

little leaf
#

@idle compass look at my name

stark bramble
#

You can use the td500 if u want

#

I gave u a better psu and ssd, the one u chose had no dram

inland parrot
#

has anyone used EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 graphic cards before?

night iron
#

Nice hello kitty setup you got there. @civic kiln

little leaf
#

@inland parrot yes

inland parrot
#

yup

#

i have to wait tho becasue it was out of stock

foggy hazel
#

@inland parrot it would be VERY appreciated if you didnt ask for help in multiple channels on the same thing

inland parrot
#

so i hope it comes before i have to leave out of town

#

@foggy hazel oops did i do that my bad

#

can I get both hhd and ssd

#

1 tb ssd and hdd 2tb or the other way around

foggy hazel
#

@inland parrot how many times do we have to answer the same question before you remember it?

inland parrot
#

i didnt see the answer for the ssd thing

foggy hazel
#

i am asking in advance this time

inland parrot
#

oh

foggy hazel
#

because every other question you have asked, has been answered multiple times

#

and then you took a breath, and asked it again

#

so i thought i would try and avoid that part of it this time.

inland parrot
#

okay

#

lol

foggy hazel
#

its okay IF you find it "funny" to waste other peoples time like that. But it is a tiny bit trivial from this side of it.

inland parrot
#

fine

#

i will not waste anyone time

#

oh and for the ssd, i have neve heard of Team MP34

foggy hazel
#

what you have asked, has been answered. The answer wont change.

#

so asking again, and again, and again.

#

wont change anything.

inland parrot
#

never mind I found my anwers for the ssd and hdd question

foggy hazel
#

their name is Team Group

inland parrot
#

which model makes the most reliible ssds and hdds

foggy hazel
#

none and everyone

#

its just statistics

inland parrot
#

okay

#

so it does not really matter which ssd or hdd i choose it will be the same

foggy hazel
#

for reliability? yes

#

for performance? no

prisma stag
#

i just use corsair everything

#

reliability>guesswork

stoic island
#

Reliability is all random beyond product design defects.

inland parrot
#

true

#

@prisma stag how is it tho

prisma stag
#

good if u like rgb

inland parrot
#

okay

stoic island
#

:P

#

Corsair is by no means the best in anything imo

prisma stag
#

rgb it is

stoic island
#

software? I'd say iCUE is one of the worst even out of all the trash software :P

inland parrot
#

okay with gpu can I play with 1080pu that is the cheapest @stoic island

small osprey
#

Corsair shoves rgb unessasarily into everything possible

stoic island
#

@inland parrot don't ask questions like that, because there's "can play at 1080p" and there's "can enjoy at 1080p"

prisma stag
#

rgb sells 🤷

inland parrot
#

okay

stoic island
#

You can use an iGPU from a decade ago and "play at 1080p"

foggy hazel
#

that does NOT make it good @prisma stag

stoic island
#

But enjoy it? Not really...

#

@prisma stag Prebuilts sell too, does that make them good?

prisma stag
#

yall took my message wrong

#

he said

Corsair shoves rgb unessasarily into everything possible

#

thats when i said

#

rgb sells

inland parrot
#

so all of the RTX can play at 1080p

small osprey
#

I mean yeah it does @prisma stag but still

stoic island
#

You're asking for something without clarifying what exactly you're asking for...

small osprey
#

@inland parrot yeah

stoic island
#

Like do you want 1080p144hz ultra?

#

1080p240hz low?

#

1080p144hz low?

#

1080p60hz low?

#

There's a lot of different standards you can put for "playing at 1080p"

inland parrot
#

welp it now i am done to 4 choices, 2060, 2060 super , or 2070, 2070 super

#

not trying to rip my wallet

prisma stag
#

get 1660 super and dont look back

stoic island
#

Personally, I would not go above a 2060 super today.

little leaf
#

just wait for a 3070

stoic island
#

That'll just lead to a lot of buyer's remorse when 3070 rolls around

little leaf
#

Who ever buys a card 13 days before the 3070 and big navi rolls out is not the smartest

small osprey
#

^^^

prisma stag
#

well tbh

stoic island
#

There are reasons

prisma stag
#

not like everyone wanting to buy a card

little leaf
#

I mean

prisma stag
#

wil lbe able to get 3070 day one

little leaf
#

if you can wait

stoic island
#

Some people have time requirements

little leaf
#

If you can wait

stoic island
#

I just assume "build now" nowadays when I don't ask for when they're building :P

prisma stag
#

i just hope 3090 stays king for a year or so like the 2080

inland parrot
#

so the 3070 will not be coming out untill october 29

little leaf
#

It should

#

or was it the 30th

inland parrot
#

i can wait

little leaf
#

don't remember

inland parrot
#

for the gpu to come out and buy that one

foggy hazel
#

for your own sake, you should hope that the 3090 gets beaten SOUNDLY by big navi @prisma stag

inland parrot
#

i if it comes out on the 29 of october that same time that watch dogs 3 comes out i can wait

#

buy the time i will have everything else

#

will just wait for the gpu

little leaf
#

I'm pretty sure you get watchdogs for free

#

if you buy a 3000 card

small osprey
#

Hopefully big navi give 3080 type performance for 3070 pricing

inland parrot
#

really

#

i hope so

#

lol

small osprey
#

Hopefully

#

Didnt say it was gonna happen

inland parrot
#

you know cyberpunk 2077 is going to be on gerforce now

#

when it comes out

#

which is nice

little leaf
#

geforece now does not work well

inland parrot
#

okay time to buy my motherboard some time tonight or next week

#

and my ssd and hdd

foggy hazel
#

as has been said before.

#

wait

#

until you have the money for all the parts

inland parrot
#

true i can do that

little leaf
#

Oh if you don't have enough money to buy at once don'y buy

inland parrot
#

i dont have the money to buy it all at once

little leaf
#

why?

inland parrot
#

i have to also save up for other things too

little leaf
#

Ok but you do realize you spend the same amount of money in the end right

#

you litteraly doing nothing

#

your using the same amount of money

inland parrot
#

yeah

little leaf
#

So now you might be stuck with a doa part

#

and not know for months

#

past the return window

inland parrot
#

my next semster classes are $900 total

#

plus the textbooks

little leaf
#

Your still paying the same amount of money

#

how does that make a difference then?

inland parrot
#

idk really, anyway, i have aready bought the case, psu, and the wifi card

foggy hazel
#

and as was ALSO said previously

little leaf
#

and if your getting a next gen cpu you will have to update bios since your buying the mobo now

foggy hazel
#

you could return the wifi card

little leaf
#

and you'll have to get one through amd

foggy hazel
#

and actually SAVE money

little leaf
#

^

foggy hazel
#

but what do we know

foggy hazel
#

and?

little leaf
#

that won't work with a ryzen 5000 without bios update

inland parrot
#

oh yeah, i need b550

stoic island
#

@little leaf tbh we don't even know how b550 will work with Ryzen 5000

foggy hazel
#

better and faster. on all fronts

inland parrot
#

or a x570

small osprey
#

Will b450 even work in first place

stoic island
#

B550 pro vdh wifi ftw

little leaf
#

@stoic island ya your right

stoic island
#

@small osprey AMD claims they're rolling out bios updates around Jan 2021.

#

(for vendors for B450)

small osprey
#

Oh so it will work

#

Ok

stoic island
#

Oh hey AMP is back in stock.

foggy hazel
#

depends on the manufacturer @small osprey

small osprey
#

Mm so some ppl wont have to upgrade their mobo

stoic island
inland parrot
stoic island
#

what about newegg

little leaf
#

@inland parrot stop buying things

#

wait until you have enough for everything

small osprey
#

Newegg have shipping costs 😦 amazon prime 😉

stoic island
#

Newegg has it in stock. Amazon has it in stock in 10 days

inland parrot
#

i dont have amazon prime

stoic island
#

@small osprey Newegg has free shipping for most things

#

and I don't have prime either

small osprey
#

Does it? Idk

little leaf
#

what does not having prime do with anything lol

inland parrot
#

@little leaf I am getting it ready to buy it when I get the money

stoic island
#

I mean SSenti

#

I have stuff shipped from Newegg

#

without shipping fee

#

so I dunno if that's free shipping or not >:D

small osprey
#

Idk it always has shipping fee for me

#

In cart and stuff

little leaf
#

@inland parrot why? things can change from now to then

#

just come back when you are building

foggy hazel
#

@little leaf you mean: Come back when you have the money for all the parts

little leaf
#

Yes

foggy hazel
#

@inland parrot we are basically trying to save you from yourself.

inland parrot
foggy hazel
#

but ultimately, you are the one that makes the choice.

inland parrot
#

should I do it

stoic island
inland parrot
#

like for amazon does not have a buy now but it has other seller

stoic island
#

That's the order details for my MP510

#

0 shipping

#

too lazy to edit all the other stuff out so taking smaller screenshot, free shipping on my neos too

civic kiln
#

@night iron thank you

stoic island
#

@inland parrot 3rd party seller = sus

#

:P

night iron
#

No problem @civic kiln

inland parrot
#

so stay away for buying from 3rd parties unless they are sold by amazon or shiiped from amazon.com

little leaf
#

@inland parrot are you going to listen to what either me or naed said?

#

or no?

inland parrot
#

yeah I will

#

just wanted to know

#

lol i just fingued out that I have enough money for all of my parts besides the gpu

exotic bison
#

So just to be sure but all B550 boards should be able to run ryzen 5000 series they just need a BIOS update. Correct?

stoic island
#

mhm

exotic bison
#

ok just wanted to be sure. Im planning to upgrade to the 5600x in December to give them some time to fix any boot issues that may be at lunch

#

launch

foggy hazel
#

@exotic bison i dont think they are launching a lunch. i do believe they are doing a cpu launch.

exotic bison
#

Yeah typo

foggy hazel
#

aye aye :)

stoic island
#

Gotta have some fun with it :D

foggy hazel
#

it was a wee bit too tempting to not comment on it :)

inland parrot
#

what is the different between NVMe and SATA and which one is better and reliable

foggy hazel
#

speed

#

nvme is faster by a big amount

#

re: reliability: as i said earlier. its all statistics.

sullen spoke
#

nice for boot drive, most people will be fine with sata for general storage or games

inland parrot
#

okay

#

i am getting 1tb ssd and 2 tb hdd

foggy hazel
#

your budget is going up up up then

inland parrot
maiden stone
#

@inland parrot I...

#

😳

foggy hazel
#

and your point is @inland parrot ?

cloud oasis
#

should i just get a pc without a case and get testbench

#

Feel like it would be easy

#

no right

jagged ember
#

If you don't really care about dust, I guess

#

There's also the risk someone will touch your mobo and short it or something

cloud oasis
#

ok

jagged ember
#

And also the fact that it's technically meant to temporary

#

Serving only as a basis for easy part swaps and stuff

deep skiff
#

open bench will be louder

jagged ember
#

Oh right, I forgot about acoustics

#

Loud fans will sound loud

deep skiff
#

and takes up more space

jagged ember
#

Ok idk about that

#

Never actually measured out a testbench

#

But as a non techie I trust

deep skiff
#

unless ur mobo is laying down lol its gonna be bigger l and w

cloud oasis
#

Looks fine to me

#

Only problem is dust

jagged ember
#

Don't let your cat touch it

foggy hazel
#

its a bit more quiet here :)

topaz acorn
foggy hazel
#

2sec, let me just plot that in pcpp for a comparison

cloud oasis
#

Why do u need a capture card

deep skiff
#

just looking at it for a sec mobo+cooler look overpriced

cloud oasis
#

?

#

n0

stoic island
#

I'd let Naed slap it in pcpp first

cloud oasis
#

Only thing overpriced is cooler

foggy hazel
#

only thing overpriced is just about everything @cloud oasis

stoic island
#

That's a better start

cloud oasis
#

tru

stoic island
#

I like the D15 xD

foggy hazel
#

and yes, there is not a price on the elgato.

cloud oasis
#

@topaz acorn y u need elgato

#

what for

stoic island
#

Explain usage and needs plz

topaz acorn
#

I will have two devices

cloud oasis
#

Streaming?

topaz acorn
#

One for gaming one and other one for streaming

#

@cloud oasis Yes

stoic island
#

What are you streaming..?

cloud oasis
#

U can just stream on one

foggy hazel
#

you dont need 2 machines thou

cloud oasis
#

LMAO WHAT A WASTE

stoic island
#

You can stream on the same PC you play on without any issues.

foggy hazel
#

@cloud oasis less "outbursts" like that please.

cloud oasis
#

3950X AND 3080 TO STREAM FOR SECOND

stoic island
#

No capture cards required.

foggy hazel
#

you are NOT here to make fun of people

topaz acorn
#

Ok

cloud oasis
#

Im not making fun of him

#

im just baffled

foggy hazel
#

you are here to help them. IF you cannot abide by that, please go to #general-chat

topaz acorn
#

I don’t trying to make fun

foggy hazel
#

not you @topaz acorn

topaz acorn
#

I am serious

elfin burrow
#

how people spend their money and what they use their systems for is their concern

foggy hazel
#

very much so @elfin burrow :)

cloud oasis
#

Kato where did u hear that

#

That u need 2 pcs to stream

#

fortnite streamers?

foggy hazel
#

@topaz acorn i have a number of questions, to make certain we help you as best we can.

#

1: Are you only going to be playing games on the pc? or do you have consoles too?

#

2: When are you planning to buy the parts?

#

3: Are you located in the US (if no, please tell us what country you are in, because that matters for what parts you have available to you)

topaz acorn
#
  1. Some of PC games and Some Special game only console
  2. IDK YET
  3. US
foggy hazel
#

okay, then yes. the Elgato card is a good thing to keep around.

topaz acorn
#

I think so

#

Bye thank for today

foggy hazel
#

i do however NOT know if it is the best option. I dont normally deal in those cards.

#

best of luck @topaz acorn

cloud oasis
#

350 is a lot

elfin burrow
#

Elgato does seem to be the one folks use most often

jagged ember
#

It will help reduce performance drop due to streaming

foggy hazel
#

it is what it is.

stoic island
#

Elgato seems a bit expensive though, also, can't you use the PC itself to stream?

jagged ember
#

So I believe it's a considerable option

foggy hazel
#

its not that @jagged ember

#

its for the pass through that you use it

stoic island
#

(To stream console gameplay)

foggy hazel
#

aye

stable oxide
foggy hazel
#

@stoic island you remember if the TT smart pro is decent or not?

#

because i dont

jagged ember
#

O ic

stoic island
#

wifi being bad one sec

jagged ember
#

Tt smart was bomb tier wasn't it?

foggy hazel
#

iirc, yes. but i dont remember about the Pro variant

jagged ember
#

Gotta check the PSU list then

stable oxide
#

3070 does list needing minimum 750 watt psu, and that was the cheapest I could find. I would've preferred to go for 80+ gold though

jagged ember
#

tech tip; don't cheap out on your power supply

pearl blade
#

i remember the the TT smart not being that higher up of recommended psu, although a lot of youtuber build guides recommend that for some reason

stoic island
#

okay, I think I found it, @foggy hazel the Smart Pro RGB?

stable oxide
stoic island
#

Tier C

stable oxide
#

but yeah its quite cheap so I think its not that great

jagged ember
#

yeah tier c

jagged ember
#

so it won't suffice for anything above low end systems

foggy hazel
#

grab that instead @stable oxide

pearl blade
#

yea you'd rather overkill on your psu rating than having it blow up and takes everything with it

jagged ember
#

your PSU and your mobo are the most important things on your pc

stoic island
#

Ahem, PSU efficiency rating is like 1/10 the equation :P

foggy hazel
#

the AMP model i listed is very good.

stable oxide
foggy hazel
#

you open to saving a bit on some parts and putting it into a beefier cpu?

vital warren
#

if you cut money in places you could get a 3080

#

or cpu

#

whatever works

cloud oasis
#

Is 161 for a 850w expensive

#

comes with custom cables

jagged ember
#

I say the SSD can be changed to an mp34

foggy hazel
#

but, before we continue, when are you planning to buy the parts @stable oxide ?

stable oxide
#

a week from now, maybe 2 weeks

foggy hazel
#

@jagged ember the 1tb is Out of stock at retailers

jagged ember
#

aw man

#

SN750?

foggy hazel
#

1-2 weeks minimum lead time

pearl blade
#

jensen2 got all the parts and no cpu and gpu

stable oxide
#

my first build so I've done a lot of research, I just need these tiny kinks worked out

foggy hazel
#

more expensive @jagged ember

jagged ember
#

oh okay, got it

cloud oasis
#

Is 161 for gold+ 850w expensive? Comes with custom cables

pearl blade
#

depends on the brand really

foggy hazel
#

@cloud oasis patience. we saw it the first time.

cloud oasis
#

Corsair

pearl blade
#

great wall? yes very espensive

cloud oasis
#

rmx850W white

foggy hazel
#

@stable oxide give me a minute to check a couple of things

stable oxide
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@foggy hazel thanks

pearl blade
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newegg selling rm850x for $144.99

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modular but no custom cables

pearl blade
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man now i regret for buying 750 for 130 something

cloud oasis
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Comes with cables

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White custom

stoic island
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@pearl blade wdym, that ain't bad

jagged ember
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that's not a bad deal yeah

cloud oasis
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Is the thing i linked good

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Or overpriced

stoic island
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I say overpriced :p

cloud oasis
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hmm

stoic island
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Ion+ platinum 860w was 130$ when it was in stock

pearl blade
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yea it can be considered a good deal in 2020 psu prices, but now the 850 is selling for 145 so i could've gotten that for just a bit more money instead of the 750 just for it headroom

cloud oasis
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Comes with white cables tho...

jagged ember
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yeah, it's a white efficiency rating

cloud oasis
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no?

stoic island
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Screw white cables :p

cloud oasis
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ok i change

pearl blade
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🥲 man I want platinum rating too

jagged ember
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you can just paint your cables white

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😛

stoic island
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Platinum rating means basically nothing over gold to most consumers.

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It's efficiency rating, not overall rating.

jagged ember
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yeah, but platinum compared to white

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it'll draw more power out of your wall

pearl blade
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pepe6000 average consumer only sees $39.99 non-rated 450w power supply

jagged ember
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if you go for a white

stoic island
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Iirc ion+ does have loose 5v ripple or something

foggy hazel
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@stable oxide sorry for the wait

cloud oasis
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What u recommend then

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For psu

stable oxide
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its fine, pretty fast respone lmao

foggy hazel
cloud oasis
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850w plz

foggy hazel
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yes, its a bit more expensive. but that is something we would "normally" be able to save on the SSD

stoic island
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Anyways, ion+ still great PSU, but efficiency rating should not be the thing you make your PSU purchase off of

cloud oasis
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yea

stable oxide
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@foggy hazel I went with ATX because I felt that would be easier for a beginner, but I definitely feel like 3700x is worth it

cloud oasis
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which one u recommend man

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850w

foggy hazel
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@stable oxide mATX vs ATX <- nothing to worry about.

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i scaled the case down to the mATX variant too.

jagged ember
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if it's not a cheapo case, it won't be much concern lol

pearl blade
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I've been waiting on the 3700x price to drop, but I don't think it's gonna drop at this point as it's only getting more popular after the benchmarks with the new gpu and stuff

foggy hazel
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the one thing that i did NOT include is a cooler, because stock cooler is decent. but it is 100% something you could add in

stable oxide
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@foggy hazel will fans still fit? should I knock a fan off, because I believe it comes with 2 stock fans

stoic island
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@cloud oasis first off, why 850w?

foggy hazel
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there are the exact same fan mounts

jagged ember
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stock cooler with non-stock thermal paste should handle it just fine

cloud oasis
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because i wanna future proof

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:P

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Is it bad?

stoic island
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Naed I think they're asking about how many fans fit

stable oxide
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@foggy hazel and yeah, the wraith prism should be great

foggy hazel
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so, if things fit in the old one, it will fit in this one :)

stoic island
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750w is plenty of future proofing >:p

foggy hazel
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its just cutting down a bit on the "wasted" volume of the case.

cloud oasis
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Also im getting 850w cuz im never getting anything computer wise for a long time

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but i want 850w just in case >:(

pearl blade
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if you're going for a rtx 3070, you'd be fine for 5 years until 8k gaming becomes mainstream

jagged ember
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if it ever does in 5 years

stoic island
foggy hazel
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at the current rate you are picking parts, you will be building around Christmas 2021 @cloud oasis

cloud oasis
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no christmas 2020

jagged ember
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oh my god gimme

cloud oasis
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:)

stoic island
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Lol

jagged ember
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i need 100 more watts than i currently do for no reason

cloud oasis
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Also i want fully modular

stoic island
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Phanteks amp

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Naed had it around here somewhere

cloud oasis
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Semi modular bad

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poopy

stoic island
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Bruh

foggy hazel
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@cloud oasis yes, because it is TOTALLY going to matter for you that you have fully modular

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also, AMP = fully modular

cloud oasis
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I dont want sticky cables

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stinky

foggy hazel
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your logic, as normal, hurts my brain.

jagged ember
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if you have a PSU shroud modular/non-modular won't matter tho

stoic island
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Naed, what do you think about Focus GM vs AMP? Should be same tier, both companies ship Nvidia's 12pin cables, should both be 7 year warranty

foggy hazel
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10 on amp

stoic island
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Ah alright

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Amp then

jagged ember
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nice

foggy hazel
cloud oasis
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pog pog

foggy hazel
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@stable oxide did you get all your questions answered or did it get lost in the chatter?

raw cradle
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ok

cloud oasis
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Thinking of getting seasonic focus plus gold 850w tho

foggy hazel
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we will just wait 5 minutes then @cloud oasis

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you will be thinking about something else by then :)

cloud oasis
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man

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Just answer it

stable oxide
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@foggy hazel yeah, except for one. 3070 launch, do you think it'll be all out of stock? because I really dont want to wait 3 months after building everything for it to be in stock again

stoic island
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No one knows :D

cloud oasis
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@stable oxide use distill monitor chrome extension

foggy hazel
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@stable oxide the advantage of the dates lining up as they are. We will have benchmarks of the AMD cards (the new ones) and the 3070 at the same time.

cloud oasis
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someone in here told me he got 3090 by using it

foggy hazel
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as for availability. it all depends on the actual performance

cloud oasis
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it like notifies u when it changes

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From notify me to buy now

foggy hazel
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@cloud oasis could you NOT peddle BS like that.

jagged ember
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maybe you'll consider getting big navi instead of a 3070 by then

stoic island
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No one really knows how many are in stock, or how many people are going for one, or how many bots will try and get one, etc etc etc.

cloud oasis
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lmao someone acutally did

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Thats what they told me at least

stoic island
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So what, sporks got one without any extensions on Best buy iirc

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No one knows

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It just goes

stable oxide
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@foggy hazel So if 3070 is out of stock, get 6000 series? I haven't done much research for AMD gpus, as even the 5900xt is only really comparable to the 2060

foggy hazel
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@stable oxide your information is a bit wrong there :)

stable oxide
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@foggy hazel if 3070 is out of stock, i feel buying a 20 series and upgrading it in a year would be fine, right

foggy hazel
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the biggest GPU's out currently in the 5000 series is the 5700xt

jagged ember
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that doesn't sound right lol

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i haven't looked up anything regarding AMD gpus

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but i can be sure that the 5900xt is not equivalent to a 2060

stable oxide
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@foggy hazel I also really don't want to deal with driver problems...

foggy hazel
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we dont know anything absolute about the 6000 series of GPU's yet.

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aside from the numbers they have shown being fairly competitive. BUT we dont know which specific card at what price that is.