#building-and-recc-chat
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ok
it's missing wifi 6 and bluetooth 5
and a bios flash
the liquid cooler makes me uncomfortable because of the more limited warranty on it
lol it's sold out on newegg
I've seen reviews and they are good but the warranty is 2 years instead of the 3-5 years on others
there is no backorder availability.
why are people so scared of air cooling tho
arctic freezer 34 duo is an excellent cooler
And ugly
Whats the best air cpu cooler
but I don't know how efficient it is
but I don't like the look of air coolers in general
liquid outperforms air by a large margin
70$ ML240L from cooler master works for me very well
Which is a good deal of money but for the AIO is good price
Warranty @fleet pagoda
If you kno wwhat your doing air is more then enough
Air is good too
But liquid is quiet and usually better l
Unless you go for beefy noctua
Coolers
Pretty even performance
Ive got the hyper tx3 dual fan setup and im more then happy with temps on my i7 10700k
most air coolers don't look nice though
Noctua Chromax look great
it only looks nice because it's a semi gloss black. but the design is very utilitarian
Heyy guys and gals, I need some help with building a high end pc used for gaming, video editing, photoshop and streaming. Kinda went crazy and was thinking which components were worth the price tag. This is a sample build i formed and was hoping for technical reasoning support Thanks 🙂 https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/xRqBPV
Any good for streaming, gaming and editing? https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/v2qBPV
@junior crescent Yeah thats a solid system but theres a prebuilt on newegg thats like 900 bucks less with similar specs
just ping me and ill send the link here : )
that's kinda sus
i can send the link rq
you can post the link here
they live in Australia
also things are generally more expensive there
yeah
i mean its a solid system but idk how much upcharge it would be for another country
it looks like they are cutting corners
3000mhz ram
it doesn't say what parts they are using
it's not a bad machine though
yeah
yeah thats the thing they could use a slower ssd
i wonder how much those kind of machines will cost in a year
prebuilds are generally not great value for money
Just booted the PC up, and its working like a charm! This 3080 is insane. I just ran benchmarks and the results are unparalleled.
nicee
my 1650 could never lol
also random question but I was wondering whats the difference, if any, between an i5 4690 and i7 4770?
i looked on a cpu website and they seem about the same except the i7 has 8 threads
There's a lot to improve for their list, but don't forget AUD to USD conversion ;p
@muted haven basically just one has SMT and one doesn't.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i5-4690-vs-Intel-i7-4770/2236vs1907
Ahh kk
Thanks 👍
There wouldn't really be a noticeable difference in gaming though right?
Like light/medium gaming with a mid tier gpu
Not really, but remember, double the threads for that future proofing it one isn't much more expensive :)
I have a old pc (2012) should I upgrade it or should I bulid a new one? Any suggestions
Is this a good system for Gaming, streaming, editing and game development?
Also the CPU may change if once i see the specs in action for the Ryzen 5000 series
I'm new too PC building so i don't know if everything is okay for this
@slow valve very much bad
Ssd overpriced
3700x bad choice if you can wait for 5000
Dont buy windows for 100 dollars
Dont get samsung ssds in short
SSD definitely overpriced
Get mp34s
just skip the samsung ones yeah
Dont get x57
What is a 460?
Just come back when your building and I recommend waiting for ryzen 5000
@slow valve
KK
@little leaf well what would you recommend in terms of storage and motherboards so that I can get ready for either 5000 series or if it's not that good I can go with the 3000 series?
👍
Okay thanks
Is the 2060 still worth it?
I suppose if you can get it for hella cheap it is.
It’s all about cost to performance.
I can't wait for tomorrow
is this a good custom build? https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/ytttdjyb/saved/#view=ZRT9rH
Hey i have the innovator J3 case and my gtx 1070 ti is doing quite a bit of noise so i want to put another case fan in, i have only a 80mm case fan for exhaust so can i flip it to intake and drop one more on the rear? but im not sure if that will impact my cpu cooler because it will be negative airflow ( cpu cooler drags in air and the rear case fan i want to put inside my case does the exact oposite)
Hey guys
got a quick easy question. Haven't built a computer in 12 years.
I got the DDR4-4266 ram before the processor and I'm looking at the Intel i9 10980XE. I think it said it supports 2933 MHz DDR4 memory. Does that mean my ram is not going to work?
yeah
How does the Nvidia RTX 2060 compare against the 2070? In this video we’ll compare the performance difference between the two in a number of gaming benchmarks at 1080p, 1440p, and 4K resolutions to help you choose between the RTX 2060 or RTX 2070, or help you decide if upgradi...
@acoustic barn it should work just enable xmp in the bios and it should run at 4266
I got a ASUS Prime X299-Deluxe II. Been reading the user guide but it's not much help
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6YBzMv
How good is this build 1-10? (Dont mind rgb ram)
2060-2070 series too since those are cheaper actually
@arctic junco Thanks for the response
What im going to do is try to buy a 3070 but i will still get a 1080p monitor
But then it will allow me to get a better monitor later
Nice setups @austere condor @little osprey
I need support here I just got deadpool pack for case fan 5*1 and this is the product https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HN199YJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_aLWIFb6N4SWHH
And I have Aorus b450M motherboard
And I don't know how to install it how to connect to each fan to other with hubs and which one wire I put in motherboard...any help pls ?
Btw case model is Cougar mx330
Will install 2 in front that get in air and 2 top and rear for get air out
Thanks in advance .
maybe you know guys..
which power cord got the aorus 7?
2/3 prong?
@sharp bear its pretty good, the ssd eh, I recommend team mp34 512gb. Dont get 2070, 3070 much better deal for same price. Rmx psu is better than rm. otherwise its good
@small osprey but is the 3070 easily available for him?
I mean no but if u can get the 3070
@little osprey take the front panel off for a better pic of the PC
3070 always good to wait for if possible
It's just much better value at the same cost
Hey ! @stoic island mind if I ask ya some rgb fans questions?
Uh I'm not a rgb guy so I might not be able to answer, but go ahead.
I am new to the whole rgb stuff. I want to add rgb fans. Do I have to buy a whole new set of fans with a hub that supports them? The case i have comes with 3 rgb fans already.
So, does your current case have a hub or no
Or are all of your fans plugged directly into motherboard?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mFMfrr
I dont think so its the cool master td500 mesh. Still awaiting for my case lol
@small osprey not sure if you noticed, the list has 3600c18 ram
Yea td500 mesh is supposed to come with a controller, lemme see which one
Oh yea it does . So a hub is come with it huh
The controller was a surprise to me lol
My corsair did too
If it comes with a hub, you can by the fans that are supported by it, no need to buy fans that come with one
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Vxkj4D/cooler-master-masterfan-mf120r-argb-59-cfm-120-mm-fan-r4-120r-20pc-r1. I think this should work for my build. Actually followed other builds using this case and this was the most used one
@stoic island oh yeah 3600mhz cl16 ram better
@little osprey can I talk in private ?
Ihave i7 10700k with a gtx 1660. what about yall
Hi guys, i am playing game on my i3 3rd gen proc, 8gb ram, rx570 gpu. At 1080p fps avg 40-55. Do i need to upgrade my pc?
damn
if u wanna more performance and better gaming experience yea, of course
@frozen anchor
@little osprey what would i get if i upgrade? I dont understand
@small osprey i am happy with my 45 fps, so why would i spend money
Then why u ask
@stoic island send me a 800$ build when u can pls
or anyone else
ping me
if u do
Can you send me a less than 2k build with rtx 3080 gaming x trio or aorus rtx 3080 max covered cooling (has to be great for call of duty warzone)
ping me if u do but do @little osprey before mine
@lofty rampart look at my name
uhh, hmm, yea...wanna rate my pc?😎
Sure
@little osprey yes
15fps at minecraft with low settings lmao
@granite imp how do you play like that, your neck is always at an angle looking right and left lmao
Can I overclock my i5 9600k with a 212 evo cooler
hi, I have questions about Build Your Own Custom PC. So when I custom PC in here. Will Newegg assemble the whole computer and install software for me?
@royal pelican
dont ping newegg
Should i get custom watercool loop
uh do you need one?
might want to watch a few tutorials
probably not
its more for aesthetics
isnt the performance better
Nvm
Imma just stick with arctic cooler
And put fans at max speed
@hollow dew i dont think they will build it for you
its just to set specific parts that you want
@granite imp how do you play like that, your neck is always at an angle looking right and left lmao
@weary bluff I mean my chair swivels. So I just don’t sit facing directly at my desk. They’re barley pitched, so when sitting at the desk, it’s really not bad
@hollow dew i dont think they will build it for you
@dapper solstice Thank you, bro! So sad !
@foggy hazel sorry for ping but yesterday that build thing u showed me my uncle said there is only one psu slot or something and i would need 2 or something like that id have to ask him again
post the link @fleet pagoda
the only thing i can translate your comment to is this:
"there is only 1 GPU slot"
Dual GPU use is dead. and has been for years
Oh okay ill have to msg him again
It might be idrk much abt these things so ill call him when my grandpa gets home
aye aye
@little osprey smth like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pg3sJf
Theres no pre-order for 3070 correct?
mhm
basically
Did you have to look hard to find the unifans for your build? Cause I have to wait until October 30 to buy some. @onyx shuttle
Can anyone make a PC for me at PcPartPicker under $3300 please?
@small osprey wrong link (again)
also, just ... no.
U can add ram and storage
Did you have to look hard to find the unifans for your build? Cause I have to wait until October 30 to buy some. @onyx shuttle
@night iron I managed to snag 2 3packs, and the rest of my fans are generous corsair high static behind the rads, and thermaltake pure plus 12 for the non lian fans. Once I can get them, I plan to change all visible fans to the uni fan
@small osprey that build makes just about zero logical sense
Cabling is a nightmare thanks to the pure plus having HELLA long cords
Lmao well he asked for 3k build
@small osprey ask what he plans to use it for.
It was kinda hasty, i didnt have time to properly make it
you automatically assumed a bunch of things about use case. Please dont :)
Hello
Mm ok
3k budget and only a 512gb ssd :v
Bad
Lol nothing just messing around
good single core performance
@little osprey go and do that in #general-chat please.
IF you actually are gonna use the full 3k id at least wait until we ryzen 5000 or 11th gen if its coming soon instead of buying a cpu that will be beaten in a few months
yea
I need support here I just got deadpool pack for case fan 5*1 and this is the product https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HN199YJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_aLWIFb6N4SWHH
And I have Aorus b450M motherboard
And I don't know how to install it how to connect to each fan to other with hubs and which one wire I put in motherboard...any help pls ?
Btw case model is Cougar mx330
Will install 2 in front that get in air and 2 top and rear for get air out
Thanks in advance .
page 14 in the mainboard manual
https://www.deepcool.com/product/CaseFans/2018-09/2420_9533.shtml <- and the manual from here will do the trick
@winter iris
Cool I got an email from a company saying they will have more unifans in stock on October 30 and told me to buy them fast. @onyx shuttle
So it the 2060 better than the 2070
no
is the 2060Super very close to the 2070? yes
is the 2060Super better than the 2070Super? no
But for someone who is going to upgrade later should i get the 2060 super
that is your choice
Your right
Will it support a B550 mobo
I am planning on buying a 2060 super since i will be upgrading later in the future
any gpu works in any mainboard (if remotely modern)
What do you think is the best modden motherboard of 2020 that is B550
depends on your IO needs
you could just take a mainboard with wifi and save yourself a bunch of money
also, that m.2 is not exactly good
Ah upgrade later
Too late already bought the psu, the wifi card and the case
About to buy the cpu next
you can still return it
and why are you buying piece by piece?
please dont do that :)
save up, buy it all together
Money wise and got save up from school too
save up the total for your machine.
The reason for doing it that way is this:
IF there is something wrong with it. You are still in the "easy to get a replacement from the vendor" period
Ture
That is why i want to make sure that i have every thing set and stone for the motherboard and the gpu before i buy those
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gD2BPV <- better on all fronts
aside from the case and GPU
@foggy hazel if u r looking for deals u can do one by one
@small osprey i think you mean it the other way around :)
Oh can lol typo
Can i stick with the psu that i had before
what i linked is better, but sure
Rmx better
Rmx is better than rm
Rmx is good
Just have to wait for it to be in stock
Mm
Amazon lets you choose bewteen rm and rmx
and again. IF you dont tell us, we cannot know :)
So does pcpp
Lol naed u should change ur nick to naed 🙂 u use it a lot
i have to ask: What else is NOT like what you linked?
How Is this build
I’m hoping if I wait till Black Friday I can save some money
Cool I got an email from a company saying they will have more unifans in stock on October 30 and told me to buy them fast. @onyx shuttle
@night iron bet! If you don't mind, dm me who?
@urban light assuming you have a case and case fans it looks alright, would like to see at least 16 cas latency, but for that specific ram, to get it at 16 cas you'd have to pay more than double.
Yeah I have a case it the lian li Pcmr edition. I looked up the cl16 and 18 and most people said they couldn’t tell the difference
yeah, cl16 is preferable if you can get it at a similar price (like $10 more i'd cop that) but definitely a rip off at $100 extra
alright then i think that build looks fairly reasonable
I know I've already answered this question but, anyone have some tips for a first time builder? I could use some quick advice
Did I give you advice already or nah
but if you are gonna wait that long for a ryzen 5000 series you may as well get an amd gpu
I know I've already answered this question but, anyone have some tips for a first time builder? I could use some quick advice
@uncut pelican read the manuals
Did I give you advice already or nah
@stoic island yeah you were the only one haha
*assuming amd is actually better lol
I dunno anything this will also be my first build
Aight
who knows they might botch drivers and rtx again
*asked this question
i dont mean to sound rude but manuals help first timers
Manuals seem like a good idea
yes always read the manual b4 looking online or smth usually it helps
also, make sure to buy reputable brands
well yeah
I read reviews and stuff like that
It's like who knows about ADATA before knowing about computers?
A bit scared for booting the pc up when i build
lmao fr i didnt even know amd existed b4 i started learning abt computers
you already have your parts then?
@gritty zenith not all of them but a bunch
I just don't like the "buy from reputable brands" advice :p
lmao fr i didnt even know amd existed b4 i started learning abt computers
@stark bramble same haha
Because different brands are known to different people
I thought intel was alone in thr game
but their ram is p reliable
lol i just mean don't buy unbranded chinese stuff
I like corsaie parts not for everything but they seem decent
they have other memory besides the warhawk stuff
@uncut pelican I used to think that
corsair is very nice
and it's all pretty solid
meh
Until I spent half a year in this server
the warhawk is just the flashy RGB stuff
Lmao
lol
(is using a 32GB kit of oloy warhawk)

warhawk is prob the most unnecessary ram ever
Now I know their ram isn't great, headsets not great, PSU some are bad, Keyboards are weird
warhawk cheap tho
oh it totally is, but it's cheap af
Yea it's cheap for rgb
an dit's been rock solid for me at rated speeds
Now I know their ram isn't great, headsets not great, PSU some are bad, Keyboards are weird
@stoic island i got their ram. . .
But who needs rgb
everyone, duh
meh
I do
it works normally and its cheapest ezez
@uncut pelican y tho
i use corsair ram and prob the only thing special about it is that it will fit my itx case and they haven't died yet
Low end Corsair ram has weird dies, high end heatsinks are obnoxious and wide enough to block things
@stark bramble non-standard bottom row and weird textured keycaps
the non RGB oloy stuff is really afforable and solid performing as well though
@uncut pelican y tho
@stoic island good ratings everywhere and i know that rgb is like my fav
They're not bad, just weird.
ah
you can get a low profile 16gb 3600 kit for $55
Ik most people hate on rgb but i like it
without rgb
msot people like rgb
@uncut pelican don't tell me you got the Vengeance rgb or whatever it's called
The wide one
@uncut pelican don't tell me you got the Vengeance rgb or whatever it's called
@stoic island if you mean vengeance pro then uhhh maybe
;)
corsair headsets are eh i know that tho
make sure to register all your warranties 🙃
I also got a 3700x
There's been 2 guys so far that has bought TD500 mesh and Arctic freezer ii, and now think the case is trash because their wide Corsair ram interferes with the aio
f
lol
When the issue is Corsair making their ram needlessly wide
Im getting 3070. . .maybe
mr techie when
lemme just use up 7 slots and weigh too much for your mobo to handle
lol
I know one of them had TD500 mesh and Arctic freezer ii and G.skill ram in their list, then changed it themselves later
:p
I will get the corsair elite compelix
Cuz once again seems reliable looks nice and good ratings
take breaks when you build yo stuff it will take a long time the first time
Thats helpful i want to make sure i get the job well done
I will also have three different storage drives
Sand i have an issue with two now sooo. . .
@stark bramble the real question is Mr mod when
lol
So whenevrr i download a game it goes into my c drive, how do i fix this
Even though i tell it to go to my d drive
Game launcher settings
Ok ill look at that when i get home
For example, like epic games, steam, origin, the blizzard one, etc.
@stark bramble No
I just found from pc gear case they moved the date to December 12. I guess I will somewhere else to but them from. I can’t do my first build without the unifan 120. @onyx shuttle
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cqYTb8 : Thoughts and suggestions?
Idk reviews on amazon are 4.5/5.0 for it
Get a Deepcool Matrexx 50
yes
id upgrade the psu
Alot
nvidia recommends atleast a 750w
Here take my build
for 3080
Oh yeah alr
Then upgrade from there
@prisma stag it's not called getting small ram, it's called getting any ram that's not Corsair rgb or oloy warhawk
Quite simple :p
quit hatin
Listen to the king @odd crypt
Quit hating td500 mesh lmao
yea agreed
Deepcool Matrexx 50
should i have my top fans as outtake or intake?
i prefer using them as exhaust, it that also depends on if you've got enough intake in the case
@idle compass look at my name
@idle compass https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PfKkTJ
You can use the td500 if u want
I gave u a better psu and ssd, the one u chose had no dram
has anyone used EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 graphic cards before?
Nice hello kitty setup you got there. @civic kiln
@inland parrot yes
@inland parrot it would be VERY appreciated if you didnt ask for help in multiple channels on the same thing
so i hope it comes before i have to leave out of town
@foggy hazel oops did i do that my bad
can I get both hhd and ssd
1 tb ssd and hdd 2tb or the other way around
@inland parrot how many times do we have to answer the same question before you remember it?
i didnt see the answer for the ssd thing
i am asking in advance this time
oh
because every other question you have asked, has been answered multiple times
and then you took a breath, and asked it again
so i thought i would try and avoid that part of it this time.
its okay IF you find it "funny" to waste other peoples time like that. But it is a tiny bit trivial from this side of it.
fine
i will not waste anyone time
oh and for the ssd, i have neve heard of Team MP34
what you have asked, has been answered. The answer wont change.
so asking again, and again, and again.
wont change anything.
never mind I found my anwers for the ssd and hdd question
their name is Team Group
which model makes the most reliible ssds and hdds
Reliability is all random beyond product design defects.
good if u like rgb
okay
rgb it is
software? I'd say iCUE is one of the worst even out of all the trash software :P
okay with gpu can I play with 1080pu that is the cheapest @stoic island
Corsair shoves rgb unessasarily into everything possible
@inland parrot don't ask questions like that, because there's "can play at 1080p" and there's "can enjoy at 1080p"
rgb sells 🤷
okay
You can use an iGPU from a decade ago and "play at 1080p"
that does NOT make it good @prisma stag
But enjoy it? Not really...
@prisma stag Prebuilts sell too, does that make them good?
yall took my message wrong
he said
Corsair shoves rgb unessasarily into everything possible
thats when i said
rgb sells
so all of the RTX can play at 1080p
I mean yeah it does @prisma stag but still
You're asking for something without clarifying what exactly you're asking for...
@inland parrot yeah
Like do you want 1080p144hz ultra?
1080p240hz low?
1080p144hz low?
1080p60hz low?
There's a lot of different standards you can put for "playing at 1080p"
welp it now i am done to 4 choices, 2060, 2060 super , or 2070, 2070 super
not trying to rip my wallet
get 1660 super and dont look back
Personally, I would not go above a 2060 super today.
just wait for a 3070
That'll just lead to a lot of buyer's remorse when 3070 rolls around
Who ever buys a card 13 days before the 3070 and big navi rolls out is not the smartest
^^^
well tbh
There are reasons
not like everyone wanting to buy a card
I mean
wil lbe able to get 3070 day one
if you can wait
Some people have time requirements
If you can wait
I just assume "build now" nowadays when I don't ask for when they're building :P
i just hope 3090 stays king for a year or so like the 2080
so the 3070 will not be coming out untill october 29
i can wait
don't remember
for the gpu to come out and buy that one
for your own sake, you should hope that the 3090 gets beaten SOUNDLY by big navi @prisma stag
i if it comes out on the 29 of october that same time that watch dogs 3 comes out i can wait
buy the time i will have everything else
will just wait for the gpu
Hopefully big navi give 3080 type performance for 3070 pricing
you know cyberpunk 2077 is going to be on gerforce now
when it comes out
which is nice
geforece now does not work well
true i can do that
Oh if you don't have enough money to buy at once don'y buy
i dont have the money to buy it all at once
why?
i have to also save up for other things too
Ok but you do realize you spend the same amount of money in the end right
you litteraly doing nothing
your using the same amount of money
yeah
So now you might be stuck with a doa part
and not know for months
past the return window
idk really, anyway, i have aready bought the case, psu, and the wifi card
and as was ALSO said previously
and if your getting a next gen cpu you will have to update bios since your buying the mobo now
you could return the wifi card
and you'll have to get one through amd
and actually SAVE money
^
but what do we know
and?
that won't work with a ryzen 5000 without bios update
oh yeah, i need b550
Look at this, 110$ on Newegg
https://www.newegg.com/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi/p/N82E16813144331
@little leaf tbh we don't even know how b550 will work with Ryzen 5000
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gD2BPV <- as i linked you earlier.
better and faster. on all fronts
or a x570
Will b450 even work in first place
B550 pro vdh wifi ftw
@stoic island ya your right
@small osprey AMD claims they're rolling out bios updates around Jan 2021.
(for vendors for B450)
Oh hey AMP is back in stock.
depends on the manufacturer @small osprey
Mm so some ppl wont have to upgrade their mobo
what about newegg
Newegg have shipping costs 😦 amazon prime 😉
Newegg has it in stock. Amazon has it in stock in 10 days
i dont have amazon prime
@small osprey Newegg has free shipping for most things
and I don't have prime either
Does it? Idk
what does not having prime do with anything lol
@little leaf I am getting it ready to buy it when I get the money
I mean SSenti
I have stuff shipped from Newegg
without shipping fee
so I dunno if that's free shipping or not >:D
@inland parrot why? things can change from now to then
just come back when you are building
@little leaf you mean: Come back when you have the money for all the parts
Yes
@inland parrot we are basically trying to save you from yourself.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07X8DVDZZ?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 i have a question about buying parts from 3rd parties
but ultimately, you are the one that makes the choice.
should I do it
Example:
like for amazon does not have a buy now but it has other seller
That's the order details for my MP510
0 shipping
too lazy to edit all the other stuff out so taking smaller screenshot, free shipping on my neos too
@night iron thank you
No problem @civic kiln
so stay away for buying from 3rd parties unless they are sold by amazon or shiiped from amazon.com
yeah I will
just wanted to know
lol i just fingued out that I have enough money for all of my parts besides the gpu
So just to be sure but all B550 boards should be able to run ryzen 5000 series they just need a BIOS update. Correct?
mhm
ok just wanted to be sure. Im planning to upgrade to the 5600x in December to give them some time to fix any boot issues that may be at lunch
launch
@exotic bison i dont think they are launching a lunch. i do believe they are doing a cpu launch.
Yeah typo
aye aye :)
Gotta have some fun with it :D
it was a wee bit too tempting to not comment on it :)
what is the different between NVMe and SATA and which one is better and reliable
speed
nvme is faster by a big amount
re: reliability: as i said earlier. its all statistics.
nice for boot drive, most people will be fine with sata for general storage or games
your budget is going up up up then
and your point is @inland parrot ?
should i just get a pc without a case and get testbench
Feel like it would be easy
no right
If you don't really care about dust, I guess
There's also the risk someone will touch your mobo and short it or something
ok
And also the fact that it's technically meant to temporary
Serving only as a basis for easy part swaps and stuff
open bench will be louder
and takes up more space
Ok idk about that
Never actually measured out a testbench
But as a non techie I trust
unless ur mobo is laying down lol its gonna be bigger l and w
Don't let your cat touch it
its a bit more quiet here :)
Suggestion need
2sec, let me just plot that in pcpp for a comparison
Why do u need a capture card
just looking at it for a sec mobo+cooler look overpriced
I'd let Naed slap it in pcpp first
Only thing overpriced is cooler
That's a better start
tru
I like the D15 xD
and yes, there is not a price on the elgato.
Explain usage and needs plz
I will have two devices
Streaming?
What are you streaming..?
U can just stream on one
you dont need 2 machines thou
LMAO WHAT A WASTE
You can stream on the same PC you play on without any issues.
@cloud oasis less "outbursts" like that please.
3950X AND 3080 TO STREAM FOR SECOND
No capture cards required.
you are NOT here to make fun of people
Ok
you are here to help them. IF you cannot abide by that, please go to #general-chat
I don’t trying to make fun
not you @topaz acorn
I am serious
how people spend their money and what they use their systems for is their concern
very much so @elfin burrow :)
@topaz acorn i have a number of questions, to make certain we help you as best we can.
1: Are you only going to be playing games on the pc? or do you have consoles too?
2: When are you planning to buy the parts?
3: Are you located in the US (if no, please tell us what country you are in, because that matters for what parts you have available to you)
- Some of PC games and Some Special game only console
- IDK YET
- US
okay, then yes. the Elgato card is a good thing to keep around.
i do however NOT know if it is the best option. I dont normally deal in those cards.
best of luck @topaz acorn
350 is a lot
Elgato does seem to be the one folks use most often
It will help reduce performance drop due to streaming
it is what it is.
Elgato seems a bit expensive though, also, can't you use the PC itself to stream?
So I believe it's a considerable option
(To stream console gameplay)
aye
thoughts? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vJRHNP
O ic
wifi being bad one sec
Tt smart was bomb tier wasn't it?
iirc, yes. but i dont remember about the Pro variant
Gotta check the PSU list then
3070 does list needing minimum 750 watt psu, and that was the cheapest I could find. I would've preferred to go for 80+ gold though
tech tip; don't cheap out on your power supply
i remember the the TT smart not being that higher up of recommended psu, although a lot of youtuber build guides recommend that for some reason
okay, I think I found it, @foggy hazel the Smart Pro RGB?
this review however does say that it performs like gold
Tier C
but yeah its quite cheap so I think its not that great
yeah tier c
so it won't suffice for anything above low end systems
grab that instead @stable oxide
yea you'd rather overkill on your psu rating than having it blow up and takes everything with it
your PSU and your mobo are the most important things on your pc
Ahem, PSU efficiency rating is like 1/10 the equation :P
the AMP model i listed is very good.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4nXd68 now added
you open to saving a bit on some parts and putting it into a beefier cpu?
I say the SSD can be changed to an mp34
but, before we continue, when are you planning to buy the parts @stable oxide ?
a week from now, maybe 2 weeks
@jagged ember the 1tb is Out of stock at retailers
1-2 weeks minimum lead time
got all the parts and no cpu and gpu
my first build so I've done a lot of research, I just need these tiny kinks worked out
more expensive @jagged ember
oh okay, got it
Is 161 for gold+ 850w expensive? Comes with custom cables
depends on the brand really
@cloud oasis patience. we saw it the first time.
Corsair
great wall? yes very espensive
rmx850W white
@stable oxide give me a minute to check a couple of things
@foggy hazel thanks
man now i regret for buying 750 for 130 something
@pearl blade wdym, that ain't bad
that's not a bad deal yeah
I say overpriced :p
hmm
Ion+ platinum 860w was 130$ when it was in stock
yea it can be considered a good deal in 2020 psu prices, but now the 850 is selling for 145 so i could've gotten that for just a bit more money instead of the 750 just for it headroom
Comes with white cables tho...
yeah, it's a white efficiency rating
no?
Screw white cables :p
ok i change
🥲 man I want platinum rating too
Platinum rating means basically nothing over gold to most consumers.
It's efficiency rating, not overall rating.
average consumer only sees $39.99 non-rated 450w power supply
if you go for a white
Iirc ion+ does have loose 5v ripple or something
@stable oxide sorry for the wait
its fine, pretty fast respone lmao
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cHJqkX <- try and have a look here.
850w plz
yes, its a bit more expensive. but that is something we would "normally" be able to save on the SSD
Anyways, ion+ still great PSU, but efficiency rating should not be the thing you make your PSU purchase off of
yea
@foggy hazel I went with ATX because I felt that would be easier for a beginner, but I definitely feel like 3700x is worth it
@stable oxide mATX vs ATX <- nothing to worry about.
i scaled the case down to the mATX variant too.
if it's not a cheapo case, it won't be much concern lol
I've been waiting on the 3700x price to drop, but I don't think it's gonna drop at this point as it's only getting more popular after the benchmarks with the new gpu and stuff
the one thing that i did NOT include is a cooler, because stock cooler is decent. but it is 100% something you could add in
@foggy hazel will fans still fit? should I knock a fan off, because I believe it comes with 2 stock fans
@cloud oasis first off, why 850w?
there are the exact same fan mounts
stock cooler with non-stock thermal paste should handle it just fine
Naed I think they're asking about how many fans fit
@foggy hazel and yeah, the wraith prism should be great
so, if things fit in the old one, it will fit in this one :)
750w is plenty of future proofing >:p
its just cutting down a bit on the "wasted" volume of the case.
Also im getting 850w cuz im never getting anything computer wise for a long time
but i want 850w just in case >:(
if you're going for a rtx 3070, you'd be fine for 5 years until 8k gaming becomes mainstream
if it ever does in 5 years
Focus GM 750w is 115$ >:D
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1548504-REG/seasonic_electronics_focus_gm_750_750w_80.html
at the current rate you are picking parts, you will be building around Christmas 2021 @cloud oasis
no christmas 2020
oh my god gimme
:)
Lol
i need 100 more watts than i currently do for no reason
Also i want fully modular
Bruh
@cloud oasis yes, because it is TOTALLY going to matter for you that you have fully modular
also, AMP = fully modular
your logic, as normal, hurts my brain.
if you have a PSU shroud modular/non-modular won't matter tho
Naed, what do you think about Focus GM vs AMP? Should be same tier, both companies ship Nvidia's 12pin cables, should both be 7 year warranty
10 on amp
nice
pog pog
@stable oxide did you get all your questions answered or did it get lost in the chatter?
ok
Thinking of getting seasonic focus plus gold 850w tho
we will just wait 5 minutes then @cloud oasis
you will be thinking about something else by then :)
@foggy hazel yeah, except for one. 3070 launch, do you think it'll be all out of stock? because I really dont want to wait 3 months after building everything for it to be in stock again
No one knows :D
@stable oxide use distill monitor chrome extension
@stable oxide the advantage of the dates lining up as they are. We will have benchmarks of the AMD cards (the new ones) and the 3070 at the same time.
someone in here told me he got 3090 by using it
as for availability. it all depends on the actual performance
@cloud oasis could you NOT peddle BS like that.
maybe you'll consider getting big navi instead of a 3070 by then
No one really knows how many are in stock, or how many people are going for one, or how many bots will try and get one, etc etc etc.
So what, sporks got one without any extensions on Best buy iirc
No one knows
It just goes
@foggy hazel So if 3070 is out of stock, get 6000 series? I haven't done much research for AMD gpus, as even the 5900xt is only really comparable to the 2060
@stable oxide your information is a bit wrong there :)
@foggy hazel if 3070 is out of stock, i feel buying a 20 series and upgrading it in a year would be fine, right
the biggest GPU's out currently in the 5000 series is the 5700xt
that doesn't sound right lol
i haven't looked up anything regarding AMD gpus
but i can be sure that the 5900xt is not equivalent to a 2060
@foggy hazel I also really don't want to deal with driver problems...

