#building-and-recc-chat

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stoic island
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you can make a decision for yourself, but just taking a look at the specs, better controllers allow for higher speeds

pallid summit
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and reduces the lifespan

stoic island
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Not really..?

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Usually they get higher write speeds by just slapping on a larger dram cache

pallid summit
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it does because the architecture is the same they are just adding more thresholds essentially increasing the wear and tear

stoic island
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More thresholds..?

pallid summit
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yeah, let me find a really good video explanation

stoic island
pallid summit
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aren't those new processorscontrollers there to enable the increase in thresholds?

stoic island
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Never heard of a concept with thresholds in SSDs so uh

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no?

pallid summit
stoic island
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unless that's short for something?

little osprey
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hi! idk if i should ask here. but im wondering if anyone can help me with my build. so i just finished my build today and got all 4 of my ram slots filled. as soon as i begin to use my pc it works fine as smooth but at random points when i install steam or any software. out of no where in the middle of me using it it will blue screen with the error CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT and when i try to update my drivers and or my other components it still wont work. even if i update my BIOS

pallid summit
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it basically explains how they are able to get more than just a binary number out of any given memory cell by measuring the voltage

stoic island
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I still don't really see a reason for higher thresholds on e18 than e16?

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Afterall, more voltage is more time spent checking

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not really what you want for speed

pallid summit
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I think e18 means 18 thresholds and e16 means 16 thresholds

stoic island
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I seriously doubt that tbh

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Afaik higher thresholds would matter for QLC than TLC because of the more voltage necessary to store more bits per cell

pallid summit
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it takes a little longer but you can get a lot more information for the time spent

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which offsets the time spent

stoic island
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and controller naming is absolutely wack

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you see the SM2264 and SM2267?

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that's why I think it has nothing to do with thresholds

pallid summit
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maybe it needs more processing power to enable the higher bandwidth

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I don't know much about it though

stoic island
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and also, it might be a memory cell thing, not controller thing for thresholds

pallid summit
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let's put it this way, if my gramma is a 1 and paul from paul's hardware is a 10 I'm like a 3 when it comes to knowledge about anything related to computing.

stoic island
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meh, I know about 2 things about SSDs sooo

pallid summit
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I don't know the difference between the controllers

stoic island
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I work off the results, not the process :P

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you know what could tell us an answer?

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TBW rating

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brb

pallid summit
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it would explain why they aren't rated for as many cycles as last gen

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look at the Samsung 980 pro compared to the 970 pro

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980 is faster but 970 is more durable

cloud oasis
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are psu fans intake or output

pallid summit
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usually intake

stoic island
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so rocket doesn't list tbw on 4 plus

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lemme check smth else

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god damn it

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the only 2 drives with e18 is rocket 4 plus and hof 4 extreme

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both don't list tbw

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rip

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lemme check sm2264 and sm2267

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@pallid summit UGHHHHHH Can't find TBW numbers for any of em

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too early to find

pallid summit
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for the sabrent ones

stoic island
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can't find crap

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sadly

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not for sabrent 4 plus

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not for hof extreme

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not for xpg indigo

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whatever

pallid summit
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let me see what i can find

stoic island
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but yea Samsung drives aren't really too great for endurance rating anyways

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wouldn't be surprised if the lower endurance for 7000mb/s is only Samsung

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but we'll see

pallid summit
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it's because they moved to TLC

stoic island
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970evo was tlc?

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970 Evo uses TLC.

little osprey
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980 evo came out right?

stoic island
pallid summit
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MLC was the one

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980 came out yesterday @little osprey

little osprey
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ok

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its pcie 4.0 right?

pallid summit
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1tb sold out last week lol

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yeah gen 4

little osprey
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is it worth over the 970 evo plus

night storm
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I haven’t tested my Samsung speeds but they work awesome for me

stoic island
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one is pcie 4.0

night storm
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I have two 970 evod

stoic island
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one is 3.0

little osprey
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is it worth the price thou

night storm
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And the rest of my SATA ssd are Samsung also

little osprey
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over the 970 evo plus

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price to performence which would be better

pallid summit
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it's worth the price if you plan on transferring massive ass files from one drive to another or for large file editing

little osprey
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ok

night storm
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Have the two 970 evo, an 860 evo, an 850 pro, and an 830.

little osprey
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gonna prob go with the 970 evo plus

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Have the two 970 evo, an 860 evo, an 850 pro, and an 830.
nice

pallid summit
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for most use cases 3.0 is plenty

little osprey
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pcie 4.0 was not really a worth it upgrade with the rocket 4

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for daily use

night storm
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(Oldest one is over 7 years old and it sat for 3 years full no data loss.

little osprey
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so thats why i was asking

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to see if its now worth it

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samsung a good brand

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trustable one

night storm
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Yup I count on them

vague willow
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anyone got any good 5-$600 pc builds they can recommend?

cloud oasis
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@vague willow use youtube

vague willow
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For sure just wanted to see if anyone had any personal recommendations

cloud oasis
floral flare
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Anyone buy today? Prime day

cloud oasis
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@vague willow

floral flare
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Today should be the best day to buy something

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Buy everything except CPU and GPU

vital warren
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cntrl that list is way over 600 if that's what he wanted

foggy hazel
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@cloud oasis is there any particular reason that you link a 1100-ish usd build to someone that asked for a 5-600usd build?

cloud oasis
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Its 572

elfin burrow
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w/o a GPU price

pallid summit
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or PSU price

cloud oasis
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oh

vital warren
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yep

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1660ti is kinda bad value tbh too

fringe hatch
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someone needs a recommendation for a 5-600 ish build?

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we including peripherals?

foggy hazel
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missing the point @fringe hatch

fringe hatch
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oh I know

vague willow
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no peripherals

fringe hatch
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okay, well I'll admit that's a bit tight but

vague willow
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indeed

foggy hazel
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pickup a used system @vague willow, if possible.

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best option for actual value at that price point

little osprey
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1660ti is kinda bad value tbh too
yea go with a rx 580, that would be price to performence

hallow rock
languid nimbus
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have a cpu cooler?

gritty zenith
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switch out the ti for a super if you're bent on going nvidia for that range of gpu

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3600 stock cooler is good enough

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i built my brother a pc with 3600 and the stock cooler does him well

hallow rock
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Okay, thanks.

stoic island
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@hallow rock hey, you can get a B550 board for same price or less.

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Ram is out of stock right now

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And at 300$, you might as well get a RTX 2060 instead of a gtx 1660ti

hallow rock
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oh okay

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sorry lmao, this is my first time.

stoic island
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C24g1 usually is around 150$ I feel... hmm

stoic island
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Yea

gritty zenith
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there's the revised list

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should do ya a little better

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and also the ram you had there before was out of stock and thus not showing a price, i switched to faster ram for like $15 more

spark raven
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Quick question right now I give you $2000 for a single pc steaming setup. Are you going Intel core i9 9900k or R9 3900x little debate I'm having with a friend.

gritty zenith
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streaming?

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ryzen

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easy

spark raven
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Ok just making sure I'm not dumb or something

gritty zenith
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if im streaming im also recording to upload to youtube which means edits and renders too

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so yeah

spark raven
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That's what I was saying and they be like Intel i9 is better

gritty zenith
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nah

spark raven
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It's a 4 core 8 thread diff and .2ghz base clock

gritty zenith
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i have i9-9900k and it doesn't feel much different in speed to when i had an 8700k

spark raven
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i9 performs better with gaming performance but your going to have a gpu so not rly a need to spend more for a i9 instead of the r9

gritty zenith
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^

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but

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ryzen 5000

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so

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better to just hold off anyway lol

hallow rock
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Thanks for the updated list

gritty zenith
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even though they will be sold out to bots within seconds

spark raven
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U mean 4000

gritty zenith
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np

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*5000

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they skipped

spark raven
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Oh

gritty zenith
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amd dont know how to count

stoic island
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@spark raven btw, 9900k kinda out of date today

gritty zenith
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thats why they made a 64 core cpu

stoic island
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10900k exists

gritty zenith
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meh

stoic island
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just sayin

spark raven
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Yea I know that as well but the debate was 9900k vs 3900x

stoic island
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if you're spending 2000$

gritty zenith
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intel making more leaps in mobile processing than desktop processing

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sad

stoic island
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BTW If I'm personally spending 2000$, I'd grab 10700k+3080 with pretty good other stuff

gritty zenith
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amd stepped into mobile already king bc intel sucked that bad

spark raven
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I mean samsung also doesn't know how to count they go from 10 - 20

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No the new ryzen chromebooks gimme gimme hopefully my school had a few brain cells and gets them

gritty zenith
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chromebooks aren't computers

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srry

spark raven
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My school only allows chromebooks it's annoying

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I'd rather an HP or Dell laptop

exotic bison
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So my pc for some reason since Saturday I have been dealing with my computer freezing during game and restarting or the game freezing and a loud buzzing noise from my headphones. I have checked my temps on both my cpu and gpu and they have been fine. Do y’all have any idea what could be wrong?

spark raven
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But definitely not getting either when they remove the old Workstations form the computer lab to make us use out chromebooks to do photo editing

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@exotic bison driver update maybe

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Also try plugging the headphones into another device to check if it's the headphones or the computer that's causing that issue

gritty zenith
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just build a velkase build and bring a powerhouse in ur pocket

exotic bison
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I just updated my drivers Friday or Saturday. And it also happens when I’m using the speakers

gritty zenith
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have you tried using without any audio?

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i know sounds stupid but it just to make sure 100% that its audio problem

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and are you using on board audio connections, or front panel connections?

spark raven
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Try limiting the amount of stuff your using to find the issue best thing to do for any tech thing. I am a stage lighter and if something doesn't work you just eliminate every possibility before assuming it's the actual light in this case the computer

exotic bison
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The front panel but the speakers I’m using are in a tv that comes through a hdmi

gritty zenith
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oof

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now that's odd

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again, did you try running it without audio?

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its best to do what wildgust said but if your suspicion is audio related try that

spark raven
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Yea since there is an audio issue plug the speakers into a laptop or something test them separately

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If it works that way you can eliminate the fact that the speakers are broken or something like that. From there test other smaller things. Like plugging a different thing into the HDMI port like an Xbox or something

gritty zenith
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@vague willow there are a lot of components you can get away with buying used

cloud oasis
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With 2k u can squeeze 10850k in

gritty zenith
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what th is that

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o

spark raven
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Your not wrong but also look at the new scores from ryzen 9 5900x

gritty zenith
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lol

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imagine still thinking intel is viable

cloud oasis
spark raven
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Nothing beating that beast

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Like that's just even the ryzen 5 5600x

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Beats the 10900k

gritty zenith
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my lord

stoic island
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5900x was comfortably at around 630 pts iirc

gritty zenith
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what has intel done with those mobile processors

stoic island
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1185g7 is ice lake 12nm

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so better single thread

gritty zenith
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ice lake probably the best name so far

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sounds sick

stoic island
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rocket lake is next for desktop

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10nm

spark raven
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300 for that beast of Ryzen 5

stoic island
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hm

gritty zenith
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yeah you gotta be braindead to not go 5800x for the same price as 10850k

stoic island
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forgot about 5900x/5800x pricing being x50$

spark raven
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Yea the person I'm talking to seems to be braindead

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They said they used to the i9 but they sent their current spec sheet and they have a i5 2400

gritty zenith
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huh

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that confused the heck out me

spark raven
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Yes it confused me too

stoic island
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nice

gritty zenith
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$1 more

vital warren
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idk i saw something about 2k builds and made one

spark raven
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Nice

stoic island
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I approve

gritty zenith
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to be fair i threw in an x570 board and trident rgb

vital warren
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a 300 board

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is not needed

stoic island
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@vital warren freezer ii 360mm is usually 125$ btw

spark raven
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Yea someone was having a debate with me over which was better in a $2k system Ryzen 9 3900x or i9 9900k pretty simple if you ask me

stoic island
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not 115

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but yea

gritty zenith
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yeah i know, but i was just throwing in a $300 board bc thats what cntrl did

vital warren
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oh i meant to type 125 rip

stoic island
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close nuff

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lol

gritty zenith
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air cooling op though

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good enough i'd say

stoic island
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It is good enough

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Dwella added that in as flexing

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basically

gritty zenith
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and the x570 + rgb ram was flex too lol

stoic island
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Freezer iis are literally one of the, if not the best performing aio you can get.

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@gritty zenith performance wise, not for fancy showing off flexing

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I'm still a perf>looks guy at the end of the day

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I mean flex as in hwbot points kinda flex

gritty zenith
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i have the freezer 34 duo and only 2 case fans in a very bad airflow case and get around 28°C< idle temps on my 9900k

stoic island
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again, idle temps only tell you room temp :D

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p95 smallfft

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that'll tell you a bit of a more solid number

gritty zenith
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i forgot the stress temps bc i have been sucked into homework for the past 2 weeks

stoic island
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Prime95 smallfft

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run it

vital warren
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nice i have an fx 6300 that's most likely burnt to a crisp and the stock cooler screams like a jet engine

stoic island
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lol

vital warren
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lost the side panel too

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still gets hot

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extremely

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using desk fan as exhaust fan as well

gritty zenith
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ooo system lag

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this test op

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should i have closed revit and my 15 microsoft edge tabs

stoic island
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doesn't matter

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smallfft eats everything

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:D

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and look at temps while stress test is running

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don't close it then look at temps

gritty zenith
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so far my highest temp core was like 64 celcius

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70

stoic island
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it'll go up for a while

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wait like 5 min

gritty zenith
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its been like 3

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ill wait lol

stoic island
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actually brb lemme find numbers on saturation for air coolers

gritty zenith
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rip hdd

stoic island
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lol

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aight

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@gritty zenith btw, did you make sure to run smallfft? default is blend.

gritty zenith
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blend does all though? starting with smallfft right?

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oof the laaaag

stoic island
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Smallfft is better

gritty zenith
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hard to type

stoic island
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blend stresses bits of IMC and bits of CPU at the same time basically

gritty zenith
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o

stoic island
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Smallfft just eats your CPU

gritty zenith
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but smallfft is just cpu

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ok

stoic island
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I've had like 70c max with blend

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then it just dies with smallfft

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so just wanted to warn you

gritty zenith
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fuk

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wym

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like shutdown?

stoic island
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yep

gritty zenith
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just need to make sure i save my work then lol

stoic island
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I had an unstable OC

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it's not a thing that'll crash your thing on stock, mine crashed from unstable OC lel

gritty zenith
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o

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i have mine boosted is all

stoic island
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Blend didn't test well enough for it to crash

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smallfft crashed it

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(for me)

gritty zenith
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oof

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boosted to 4.7 is nothing right?

stoic island
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it's a part of having fun with OCing ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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it boosts itself to whatever it feels like sooo

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let it be

gritty zenith
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ighty then

stoic island
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and btw, there's a good chance smallfft will make it go hawt and like 85c, don't worry, smallfft is literally worst case scenario, it's the hottest it can ever get basically

floral flare
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is this a deal price?

stoic island
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no no no

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get it away

gritty zenith
stoic island
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evo plus so overpriced

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just no

gritty zenith
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wrong channel tbh

stoic island
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SN750 1tb 120$ @floral flare

floral flare
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ok, i am moving to tech deals

gritty zenith
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$169.99 should be the base price

floral flare
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thanks

stoic island
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I mean this channel is a fair place to ask if things are worth it @gritty zenith

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:P

gritty zenith
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oi i was js they did mention the word deals ;p

stoic island
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heh

gritty zenith
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o

floral flare
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ok then

gritty zenith
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smallfft or smallestfft

stoic island
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smallfft

floral flare
stoic island
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what about the wd blue

floral flare
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is this the same as ?

gritty zenith
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alright time to kill my computer

stoic island
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lel

gritty zenith
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lol

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oof

stoic island
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likely not gonna die

gritty zenith
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instant 72

floral flare
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or samsung 169

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1t

gritty zenith
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im sure on amazon you can find a 1tb nvme for a great price

floral flare
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those are the same, right?

stoic island
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Do you want a 2.5in SATA drive or a M.2 NVMe drive?

gritty zenith
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that isn't evo

stoic island
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those are very different drives at different prices

floral flare
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oh, ok, got it

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my bad, i need evo actually

stoic island
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SATA drives are rated for ~500mb/s r/w
NVMe (PCIe 3.0) drives are rated for ~3000mb/s r/w

floral flare
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yes, that's why, lol

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nice

stoic island
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@floral flare again, SN750 is literally just better than 970evo for the price

floral flare
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ok

gritty zenith
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if there are 3 cement walls between me and my router and im using a wifi usb adapter does that explain my lag in games NYEHE

stoic island
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Yes

gritty zenith
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i sometimes get spikes up to 3000ms ping

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smh

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i need to move

stoic island
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drill holes

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ethernet time

gritty zenith
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i had ethernet before

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then i switched rooms

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big oof

floral flare
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get a wifi motherboard then

gritty zenith
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i do have a wifi motherboard

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dont have antenna

floral flare
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which one you recommern

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i am looking for one

gritty zenith
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depends on your budget

stoic island
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For AM4?

floral flare
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$200

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$100-300

stoic island
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Budget board, MSI B550 Pro-VDH wifi
Mid end, Asus X570-Plus wifi

gritty zenith
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thats a big window

floral flare
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msi

stoic island
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300$ is gotta have to be MSI X570 Unify

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:D

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Unify is a smexy board

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too high pricing tho

floral flare
gritty zenith
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so after about 4 and a half minutes my highest temp was about 84 degrees yeah

stoic island
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mhm x570 plus wifi is good

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yea

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@gritty zenith now that's a good way to measure temps :)

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under smallfft

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that's good.

gritty zenith
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not bad for 3 fans total lmao

stoic island
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mhm

gritty zenith
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well

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2 case fans and a dual fan cooler

floral flare
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ok, show it there

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let me look

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@gritty zenith that looks soooo cool

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man

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you case

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👍

stoic island
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fun

gritty zenith
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yeah i assume its also pretty rare bc i havent found it on any sales website and i cant find any info on it past basic specs cant even find a manual anywhere

neon condor
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Hey

undone prairie
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yo

neon condor
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What you trying to do?

undone prairie
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okay so my budget is $700

neon condor
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Alright

undone prairie
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and im tryna build one that can stream

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so should i go i5 or i3

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or go ryzen

neon condor
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Ok so you want streaming

little osprey
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i'd say go ryzen dude

neon condor
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What res do you plan to play at?

undone prairie
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1080

neon condor
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ok

little osprey
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amd for price ratio right now, better than intel. if you ask me

undone prairie
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i was recommended the i3 10100 but idk

little osprey
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hmm at that level. maybe go intel

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the ryzen 5's and 7's are really nice. but if that's your budget. yeah, prolly go intel

little leaf
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what?

undone prairie
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idk if it could handle streaming though

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and run good frames

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which also im debating on a 1660 super or a 1060

little osprey
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streaming is not really all that intensive, just get obs studio, (its free)

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and doesn't use too many resources. should work fine

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you just have to set it up properly, of which is an ordeal, but there are tutorials for sure

dapper solstice
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tbh if you are streaming just get a nvidia gpu

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dont worry too much about cpu

coarse coral
dapper solstice
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nvenc takes care of most of the streaming

undone prairie
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so 1060 or 1660

gritty zenith
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LMAO I DIDN'T KNOW PRIME95 RUNS TIL YOU STOP IT

neon condor
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@undone prairie
Here is the build I recommend at that budget.

undone prairie
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ok

gritty zenith
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my cpu been stress testing for over an hour straight lmao

neon condor
dapper solstice
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@gritty zenith ded cpu

gritty zenith
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rip 9900k

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rest in flames

dapper solstice
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its wondering why you are torturing it

gritty zenith
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"why father?"

undone prairie
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ok @neon condor this is the build i came up with how does it look

gritty zenith
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intel not a good investment

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good choice for the cpu, but not a good investment with ryzen 5000 coming soon

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also if you're bent on nvidia at that price point go for super not ti

ripe wedge
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@undone prairie the power supply is garbage

undone prairie
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its budget build

dapper solstice
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you should ditch intel and get a nvidia gpu

ripe wedge
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TT smart series is a bomb

gritty zenith
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i personally wouldn't run anything that isn't evga unless its platinum

ripe wedge
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corsair is fine

undone prairie
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its a budget build lmao and i need to stream

ripe wedge
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for psus

undone prairie
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ryzen is overpriced atm

dapper solstice
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true

gritty zenith
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tru

ripe wedge
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true

gritty zenith
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2600 cost more than 3600 lol

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wait

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wrong cpus

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1600 cost more than 2600

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there

dapper solstice
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if you need to stream at a budget use nvenc encoder on the new nvidia gpu

undone prairie
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so what gpu should i use

gritty zenith
#

how much money you got for a gpu

dapper solstice
#

maybe a 1660 super

gritty zenith
#

wait

dapper solstice
#

it would be ideal

ripe wedge
#

1660 super would be better

undone prairie
#

okay ima get a dif psu and cpu and get a cooler and ill lyk

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how much i have

gritty zenith
#

because 1660 ti is actually cheaper atm with that deal

ripe wedge
#

intel stock cooler is garbage

undone prairie
#

ik

dapper solstice
#

how much do you have for pc?

gritty zenith
#

intel has a stock cooler? NYEHE

dapper solstice
#

@undone prairie

ripe wedge
#

hold up ill fix ur list give me a min

gritty zenith
#

did you mean to not pick any ram?

undone prairie
#

im tryna fix it

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rn

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okay so i have ab 200 for the gpu

ripe wedge
undone prairie
ripe wedge
#

this would be ideal

undone prairie
#

check mine

ripe wedge
#

id wait for the 3600 to go on sale tho

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should go on sale at somepoint soon

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cuz zen 3

undone prairie
#

my budget is $700 bro

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not 850

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😭

ripe wedge
#

ah ok ill see if I can cut more corners

gritty zenith
#

if you plan on doing anything except playing one videogame at a time

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dont do an i3

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like dont even think about it

undone prairie
#

i heard its pretty good

ripe wedge
#

streaming tho

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u said you want to stream?

undone prairie
#

a 10100 is clost to a 10400 i5

ripe wedge
#

that i3 is gonna struggle

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with streaming and gaming

undone prairie
#

okay

gritty zenith
#

dont hold on so tight to intel

undone prairie
#

i get ryzen is better

gritty zenith
#

amd will do you better for what you want

undone prairie
#

for multitasking

ripe wedge
#

when do u need a pc

#

like asap?

#

or can u wait awhile

undone prairie
#

like asap

ripe wedge
#

kk

gritty zenith
#

3600 destroys the i3-10100

neon condor
#

Looks fine

gritty zenith
#

if you only have $700 for what you want you gotta get a cheaper case

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if you don't want to cut anywhere else

undone prairie
#

leme tweak it a lil more

ripe wedge
little osprey
ripe wedge
#

its $40 over

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@little osprey thats private

little osprey
#

frick

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hold up

ripe wedge
#

just hit edit this list

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and then send the link on left side

little osprey
#

ye

#

there

ripe wedge
#

for you or him?

undone prairie
#

yeah it looks pretty good thanks

ripe wedge
#

@undone prairie hold up

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do u want rgb ram?

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or

undone prairie
#

im prolly gonna get a 1tb instead of 2 for hdd

ripe wedge
#

would you want cheaper ram cuz there is some good ram on sale

undone prairie
#

yeah i want rgb

gritty zenith
#

1tb not worth

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2tb seagate so much value

undone prairie
#

yeah prolly

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u didnt put a cooler tho

gritty zenith
#

no

ripe wedge
#

the 2600 comes with a cooler

gritty zenith
#

ryzen comes with coolers

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unless it specifically says otherwise

ripe wedge
#

pretty sure

gritty zenith
#

and they work pretty well up to ryzen 5s

ripe wedge
#

yea it does

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and yep stock amd coolers are good for lower end

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but higher end like R9 need other cpu coolers

undone prairie
vital warren
#

spending too much on ssd

undone prairie
#

it fits my budget

vital warren
#

can get double the storage for that if its not samsung

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mp34 512gb

little leaf
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@gritty zenith 9900k on stop

undone prairie
#

its only a starter pc i can upgrade it in christmas

little leaf
#

top

vital warren
#

but why spend $70 on 250gb when you can spend a little less on 512?

undone prairie
#

higher performance

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froma 970

gritty zenith
#

if you can upgrade in the future dont get 970 thats wasting money tbh

little leaf
#

don't get a 2600

gritty zenith
#

1650 super not the move

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especially when you can get a 1660 ti for only #50 more

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*$

dapper solstice
#

@undone prairie tried to accommodate for what you wanted in the build

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you might have to use that christmas money to get a proper harddrive

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maybe better cpu

little leaf
#

h510

gritty zenith
#

does the h510 come with fans tho bc like

undone prairie
#

ill prolly use it to get a better cpu

little leaf
#

h510 dog

dapper solstice
#

he wanted h510 so i put it there

little leaf
#

rgb ram not needed

dapper solstice
#

it can be changed

little leaf
#

don't

gritty zenith
#

boi

dapper solstice
#

i wanted to put cuz he wanted it

little leaf
#

If anyone asks for a h510

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don't give it

gritty zenith
#

said they wanted rgb

little leaf
#

its a bad case at a bad price

gritty zenith
#

let them have rgb

dapper solstice
#

trying to accommodate and put what they wanted

gritty zenith
#

they said they can upgrade

little leaf
#

you don't need rgb ram

gritty zenith
#

smh

dapper solstice
#

tbh it would be cheaper without rgb ram

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but he wanted so i put

undone prairie
#

i used the cooler master

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what if i used a 3600 and a 1650

ripe wedge
#

there is the $44 crucial ballistixs ram

undone prairie
#

then jus upgraded my gpu on christmas

ripe wedge
#

16gb 3200 c16

#

I mean that would work

dapper solstice
#

1650 super not 1650

ripe wedge
#

a 1650 super is a fine gpu

dapper solstice
#

but it would work

gritty zenith
#

eh

undone prairie
#

and then on christmas ill prolly get a 2060

ripe wedge
#

u just cant play insane games at higher quality

gritty zenith
#

1650 is an odd lineup

ripe wedge
#

for esports titles it will be fine

#

most games it should be enough the 1650S

gritty zenith
#

this should be good for now if you plan on upgrading "soon"

#

cpu, gpu, and ssd are chosen with upgrades in mind

#

that board should be really good for upgrading in the future, the psu fully modular so there's that too

dapper solstice
#

ssd might be fine

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but this is a good build

ripe wedge
#

oof

#

outta stock of the $44 ram

gritty zenith
#

rip crucial

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57.99 for rgb ram not bad though

#

has that same spec

ripe wedge
#

I wouldnt get that psu tho

undone prairie
#

okay how bout this

gritty zenith
#

[question mark]

undone prairie
#

can u make me best pc build for performance

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only rgb being fans

ripe wedge
#

actually

#

that psu is fine

#

thought it was the BQ for a sec

#

its a B tier

#

@undone prairie

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Id recommend getting the coolermaster case

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the mb311L

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gives u 2 fans

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rgb

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and better airflow

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and can for sure fit big boi cards

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plus u dont have to buy extra fans

undone prairie
#

ok

gritty zenith
#

you mean best for performance still within that budget then correct?

ripe wedge
#

just take the front top fan and use it as an exhaust

undone prairie
#

yeah

ripe wedge
#

that comes preinstalled

#

@gritty zenith yea but also will save him a few bucks

undone prairie
#

why not put bottom fan as exhaust

ripe wedge
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then u are suffocating the gpu

undone prairie
#

bc hot oh yeah

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fac

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fact

ripe wedge
#

cuz air travels up

undone prairie
#

yeah

polar python
#

rtx 2060 or rx 5600xt or 1660s

gritty zenith
#

depends on how much you care for ray tracing

ripe wedge
#

30 budget

#

you could put more money into the SSD

#

you could get a 512gb MP34

gritty zenith
#

or

#

500gb evo

#

since want evo so bad

ripe wedge
#

no

gritty zenith
ripe wedge
#

mp34 is high performing

gritty zenith
#

glad someone agrees lol

#

evo aint fast enough to be the only option

ripe wedge
#

also that WDblue is actually sata 3

gritty zenith
#

o

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didn't notice

ripe wedge
#

sata 3

gritty zenith
#

ah

ripe wedge
#

pcie gen 3

gritty zenith
#

there's revised with mp34

#

nice big storage

ripe wedge
#

yup thats the one I just sent

gritty zenith
#

i might just get an mp34 Brainlet

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im running a 3d nand lmaoo

#

3d nand on wifi big oof for those who wait for me to load into online matches

ripe wedge
#

mp34 has good dram

gritty zenith
#

bet

#

im prob selling my build tho

ripe wedge
gritty zenith
#

or at least parting it out

#

y'all know bout the jonsbo hp400 cooler?

ripe wedge
#

ive built in the coolermaster case before

#

its fun to build in

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and easy

gritty zenith
#

building in general is fun :3

#

different cases different challenges challenges = fun so long as you don't screw up lol

ripe wedge
#

im getting a TD500 mesh tomorrow or thursday COGGERS

gritty zenith
#

the case i have right now was hard to build in but i managed

ripe wedge
#

coming in the mail for my build

gritty zenith
#

ah

#

looks nice

ripe wedge
#

with the extra $10 in budget he might be able to afford some rgb ram

#

if he really wanted

gritty zenith
#

the oloy tomohawk were good

#

wait

#

might be the wrong name

#

dont remember

#

mus use br

undone prairie
#

i need a r5

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so i can upgrade my gpu on xmas

polar python
#

thoughts

ripe wedge
#

id wait on RDNA 2 to be announced

#

@polar python

#

if u wanted amd gpu

#

think announcement is on the 28th

polar python
#

how much will the cards be?

ripe wedge
#

not sure

polar python
#

i was plannin to upgrade to a 3070/3080

ripe wedge
#

havent heard anything yet

#

cuz it isnt announced yet

#

I mean if you plan on upgrading maybe get a cheaper card

#

like a 1650 super or something

polar python
#

ok

#

thx

ripe wedge
#

how long were you thinking of waiting

#

for an upgrade

floral flare
#

how can you buy 3070

#

all bot buy

little osprey
#

ryzen 5 3600?

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or ryzen 7 2700x?

#

its like 16$ more

rotund vector
#

Does anyone have any tips for grabbing one of the new 30 series cards before they sell out? My cousin wants to build a computer with the new 3070 coming out but I know they sell out almost instantly and not sure how fast they restock. Any help appreciated

hardy cairn
#

hey, does the asus prime pro come with the drivers to handle zen 3?

polar python
#

how much do u think i should spend on a 2070s/1080ti

rotund vector
#

@hardy cairn "Zen 3 will be supported on motherboards with the 500 series chipsets. 400 series boards will also see support as AMD will share code allowing motherboard manufacturers to support Zen 3 on select B450 / X470 motherboards using select beta BIOSes." Looks like if you have a 500 chipset you will be set, and in some cases the 400 as well

hardy cairn
#

ah, thanks! My worry was I'd slap it all together and then it wouldn't boot because it wouldn't recognize what a zen 3 was.

rotund vector
#

@hardy cairn Yeah np, that was just a quick google search. If this is a build you already have running and you are upgrading, maybe just make sure the Bios is all up to date, but if it is a new build you should be fine

hardy cairn
#

totally new build. haven't built a pc in about 5 years and a lot's changed.

#

that's the one I'm planning on getting

rotund vector
#

@hardy cairn Yeah I really don't know all too much either but looks cool! Best of luck to you, hope to see it completed in the future.

hardy cairn
#

thanks!

polar python
#

thoughts?

little leaf
#

3080 instead

#

And 3600

#

With b550 pro vdh

#

Mp34

polar python
#

updated list

junior crescent
odd crypt
#

Yan?

sharp bear
#

Best/cheapest 144hz monitor not curved ?

wide moon
#

thoughts?

proven raven
#

Question; If my load wattage is 497 and the wattage calc says rec. PSU wattage is 547. Will be Corsair CX Series 550W be enough? Or should I upgrade to a 600W/650W power supply

stoic island
#

fine

proven raven
#

@stoic island are you saying that what I have is fine?

little osprey
#

I believe it's all good, not sure tho

queen vault
#

guyes any one here who can help me with high end pc building this is the list

#

i want to know if they are compatable to each other plzz look properly cause ones i buy it i cant return it so the money will be west

opaque raft
#

@queen vault I would wait on that graphics card, the 3060 will be coming out at a lower price + better performance. It should be available some time next month, so unless this is an emergency build (which given the price I think not!) you should wait. Also, as for your cooler, I would suggest a larger case such as this one https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-enthoo-pro-atx-full-tower/p/N82E16811854069. You don't have to do this exact one, but for water cooling I would suggest you get a large case, as long as the fan mounts are compatible. Also, the larger size + higher airflow will be good for your cooling, especially with those toasty bois you have in there. However, if you want an rgb case then don't get this one, get something similar. Other than that, your system looks great, and I wish you good luck!

tiny venture
#

I have problem with bios When i get into the bios..bios freezes and I can’t control of anything (I installed Windows normally and everything is ok) anyone can help me

final tinsel
#

Anyone know what case this is

#

:kiz

chrome saffron
#

hi guys can yall @ me with a good pc specs that is not to expensive

still roostBOT
#
Rokegle135#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

final tinsel
#

Did you tag me cuck @chrome saffron

#

:cmonbruh

dense leaf
#

If I replace the thermal compound on my gpu, is it like a cpu, or does it not matter if some paste goes over the edge when putting the heatsink back on??

ripe wedge
#

yeah should be fine if there is some overspill but not too much

dense leaf
#

okay awesome thank you!

ripe wedge
#

ive repasted my old gtx 970 before

sullen spoke
#

Careful with gpu, bare die

still roostBOT
#
rtk#2339 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

ripe wedge
#

yeah make sure you wipe it clean

dense leaf
#

would alcohol and a cotton ball work

upbeat lodge
#

What gpu should I get I want a 3080 but I’m not too confident that I will get one 

dense leaf
#

when the 3070 drops you might have a better chance of getting your hands on one

ripe wedge
#

yeah should work then come back with a microfiber cloth to get some of the stuff that comes off the cotton ball @dense leaf

dense leaf
#

All right epic, appreciate it @ripe wedge

ripe wedge
#

np also if you are unsure about repasting gpus just look up some youtube videos

#

or tearing down your gpu

little osprey
#

What is up everyone

#

Anyone need any help

maiden haven
#

does anyone know where to get good and budget parts from?

deep skiff
#

ebay, r/hardwareswap, and local places if u wanna buy used and any retailer like amazon or newegg for new

blazing steppe
#

Help?

#

a lot of the stuff is from the fantastech sale

stoic island
#

y

#

I don't like the part selection :P

blazing steppe
#

I know, it's bad

#

can u help me with it?

stoic island
#

better ssd better gpu

#

same price

blazing steppe
#

my max budget is 625

stoic island
#

why was the first list 650$ lmao

#

I just looked at that and assumed 650$

blazing steppe
#

There's a sale in my region

stoic island
#

you know how mail in rebates work right

#

you don't get the money off

pallid summit
#

I'd go with an rx 580

stoic island
#

@blazing steppe you have to mail the rebate in, to get a rebate, you don't get the money off the purchase

#

that's why I don't really count mail in rebate

blazing steppe
#

don't you still get the money back in the end @stoic island ?

stoic island
#

it's a rebate

#

usually coupon

#

not money-back

#

lmao focus g mini just sold out on newegg

pallid summit
#

580 oc

blazing steppe
#

can you help me shave the list down to 625?

stoic island
#

ocing doesn't exactly double the performance of a card :P

#

Yes

#

I'll have to brb tho

bright kelp
#

Do you think an 800 dollar pc could emulate windows

#

I don't wanna pay the 120 dollar price tag and so I was going to go for linux and emulate if i need to

stoic island
#

@bright kelp why do you need to emulate it when you can run native

little leaf
#

windows is not 120 dollar

stoic island
#

and btw

little leaf
#

its like 5 bucks

stoic island
#

VMs need windows licenses if you want it to be activated

#

and windows key for running it natively is 5$

bright kelp
#

oh okay Ill run natively then

stoic island
#

There's no reason to go through all the trouble for VMing

#

because god damn does sharing GPU looking like a pain

#

I'll make a 800$ list

bright kelp
#

okay thanks

stoic island
bright kelp
#

what would the other PSU be?

little osprey
#

can anyone make me a build for 500 dollars or 700 dollars or both if u can ping me or dm me

blazing steppe
#

@stoic island thx

stoic island
#

yw

#

@bright kelp I mean you can get a better case by downgrading PSU, which could be necessary if you want a better case that's in stock.

bright kelp
#

uh yeah sure that sounds good

stoic island
polar python
#

what CPUs are comparable to r5 5600x

little osprey
#

ok ty

stoic island
#

@polar python right now? as far as we know, 10600k.

polar python
#

okay, thanks

balmy patio
#

is this a good build at 1k for gaming at 1080p high settings?

stoic island
#

I don't like it

little osprey
#

@balmy patio I would say go for a 1660S instead of a ti

#

And cl16 ram instead of cl18

cloud oasis
#

Dansgame psu

stoic island
#

@balmy patio to start off, swapped mobo, ram, SSD, GPU, Case, PSU.

cloud oasis
#

Not fully module = No

odd crypt
#

Is this good

stoic island
#

...

odd crypt
#

What?

stoic island
#

Didn't I just make a 700$ list

odd crypt
#

Ima just go with mine

#

Just is it a yay or nay

stoic island
#

Why b450

#

when you can have b550

#

why 3200c16 when you can have 3600c16

little osprey
#

^^

stoic island
#

why P1 when MP34 is literally the same price

odd crypt
#

Welp i want 2 tb in uf

#

It

stoic island
#

why

arctic jungle
#

@stoic island don't bother

#

some ppl idiots

#

they can't listen

little osprey
#

Damn.....

arctic jungle
#

just don't bother them

odd crypt
#

U better shut up

arctic jungle
#

let them make mistakes

#

nah

odd crypt
#

Ur life is a mistake

arctic jungle
#

well that's pretty toxic

#

fortnite kid?

odd crypt
#

Nope

little osprey
#

Imagine getting mad just for people making suggestions 😂

arctic jungle
#

^^

odd crypt
#

He called someone a idiot

arctic jungle
#

that's you btw

odd crypt
#

Oh u

#

Awesome

arctic jungle
#

and I wasn't talking to u

#

nay to the parts list, he said

odd crypt
#

Welp u are now

arctic jungle
#

??

#

anyways I got class

hallow rock
#

@odd crypt Mr1111 gave me some good stuff for a list too lmao. Just listen to them. Also your list has a few issues and some parts are incompatible meaning you might have to buy extra stuff.

little osprey
#

Bro these are like the come backs I said in like 5yh grade lmaoo

foggy hazel
#

how about you both calm down?

#

if you want to post BS like what you did above, keep it to #general-chat

arctic jungle
#

xD

#

Naed rlly do be coming after general

little osprey
#

Lmaooo

foggy hazel
#

@arctic jungle you should know better

#

you have been told this a number of times by now.

arctic jungle
#

?

balmy patio
#

naed is a cool dude ngl

arctic jungle
#

@stoic island if someone isn't listening abt tech help, just don't bug them... there's no reason to indulge their egos

stoic island
#

heyo

#

I kinda left

#

for a sec

balmy patio
#

mr111 is a cool dude, always willing to help anyone that needs it

stoic island
#

:)

split osprey
stoic island
#

Hi my friend I edit list

#

@split osprey You stream or no?

old hearth
#

@stoic island is a 5900x and 3080 sound like good combo for Christmas build

pallid summit
#

I'd take it

split osprey
#

@stoic island i do but thats my firends pc specs

#

and im thincking of biulding mine useing his

#

specs

stoic island
#

Well, I'm gonna edit it to be a better streaming PC >:D

When are you building?

split osprey
#

idk near november or crismas

#

but my firend is october

stoic island
#

Okay, rule of thumb, don't settle on a final list until right before you buy, so this is only an outline, come back for a new list when the time comes.

split osprey
#

ok

stoic island
#

Because the market changes very often, new parts come out, part pricing goes all wack, etc, etc.

split osprey
#

also im looking for a buget gameing and streaming biuld

stoic island
#

Second rule of thumb, buy everything at once, because ^, and because buying separately runs the risk of things going outside of return window if it's bad.

#

tbh 1000$ isn't that budget

#

you can get some goodies

split osprey
#

lol i know

stoic island
split osprey
#

and im looking to upgrade when the stuff gets outdated

#

so i will try the revishon

balmy patio
#

thats a pretty good build for 1k

little osprey
old hearth
#

How’s this but with a 3080 and 5900x anyone and @stoic island I always see you on here

stoic island
#

hai

split osprey
#

i saw those specs on a youtube vid

old hearth
#

😂 really

stoic island
#

wrong link my guy

old hearth
#

Crap let me fix it

stoic island
#

:)

little osprey
#

Rookies can send links now? Lol

stoic island
#

They always were meant to be able to send pcpp, newegg, and amazon links

little osprey
#

I see

stoic island
#

Bot eating all of them up hasn't been intentional

little osprey
#

Yea

stoic island
#

they're supposed to eat it up if you're linking to weird places tho

little osprey
#

I rmbr when I was a rookie I couldn't send jack 😂

#

Yea I see

split osprey
#

lol

stoic island
#

@austere condor By the way, since you made a build in the MB311L, how good is it, and how easy is it to build in? I've been starting to recommend it, but not sure on how good it is.

little osprey
#

@stoic island I just remembered are there any vidoes on the mx330g air?

stoic island
#

not afaik

#

go look around

little osprey
#

Anyone know I a good ryzen 7 or 8 processor for a good price?

#

@stoic island how much money should i spend on a pc

balmy patio
#

@little osprey ik ur not asking me but ir really depends on your needs

#

and what you are expecting from it

little osprey
#

uh

old hearth
#

There we go @stoic island

little osprey
#

gaming

#

streaming maybe

#

editing

balmy patio
#

this is a list mr1111 did for me earlier today

#

i asked him to revise my high settings 1080p at 1k including monitor list and he came out with that

old hearth
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@stoic island it replace the ssd with a mp34 and the 3080 and 5900x in there how does it look

stoic island
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I'm back

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@old hearth to start off, for AIOs, the only AIO I would recommend is an Arctic freezer ii, and all aftermarket coolers I know of come with thermal paste, no need to buy extras unless you really want to.

old hearth
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Ok

stoic island
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Next, motherboard a bit expensive, but 200$ isn't a huge problem.

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Then, for ram, 3600cl16 is optimal for Ryzen, grab some 3600c16 kits, not 3600c18

old hearth
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Ok

stoic island
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Next, can you explain what you're planning to store on this PC?

balmy patio
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wait i never understood the difference in between cl16 and cl18, can you explain that?

stoic island
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Sure, it's cas latency, lower is better.