#building-and-recc-chat
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Fred will you be editing and stuff alot?
i will stick to the cpu and cooler, but is there anything you can tell me about the mobo?
ryan, rarely
There r z490 boards with wifi for 200
maybe stream sometimes
300 is extremely overpriced for a mobo
Ok good
if i use ethernet, what does the wifi mean?
Wait ur using ethernet?
Then why do u have a wifi board
Was gonna say if you want a workstation pc for editing and cad alot, gotta go amd
i dont?
Bruh it says wifi 6
right ryan
And otherwise it wouldnt cost 300
Reason: Bad word usage
ah sh*t they put it at the end š¤£
on pc part picker it doesnt say the words wifi anywhere
Welll um then u got the wrong model
Unify doesn't have a model without afaik
Unify is an extremely expensive mobo anyways, why do you want one?
guys im very new to motherboards i just looked over it
please educate me on motherboards if you would like
Gigabyte z490 gaming x is about the price range you should be looking at
i play ethernet, so no need for wifi
Like ~160$ z490 boards.
Mr1 is very big brain in mobos
mr1111 i did see that one yesterday
No I'm smol brain
this one is good with i7-10700k right?
Yes
What's the pricing rn
uh huh
Can you check pricing on msi z490-a I think it was
I'm on mobile rn
thats fine
I'll check stuff later
sure, but i looked at diff sellers and the cheapest is 170 instead of 180
It's really damn hard to try to remember boards at a price without checking prices
Lol
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PK6v8M Thoughts?
@pliant wren when are you planning to build?
you might want to see how ryzen 5000 series and new amd gpus come out to put something together
@pliant wren $20 more for CL16 last time I checked RAM prices if you would like that
What do you mean @rustic sandal
your ram timing is cl18, cl16 is faster
@foggy hazel Im planning to build within the next three months
And not too much more expensive for 2x16
Thanks
Yw!
if you want to build within next three months
buy ram cooler psu and storage now and wait for platform and gpu to go down in price or a better part comes
@agile bear don't do that
I am going to buy my gpu off of eBay but what do you guys think of this?
Buy everything at once
Y?
I agree with wait for GPU prices
but what if you got stuff DoA?
and then 3 months later you can't return it for something better
tru
buy ram cooler psu and storage now and wait for platform and gpu to go down in price or a better part comes <- this is a VERY bad idea imo
save your money, wait.
prices are not going up
Do you think buying half of the parts a month between will give you enough time before you can return
why risk it? <- for you @zinc nacelle
For me it's cuz my parent doesn't wanna drop 1k all at once, they prefer me getting it little by little
I wanna see if they'll let me get them all at once but idk how return policies usually work
depends on the vendor/seller
Ah ok, I hope they'll understand
Does anyone have the link to The Verge Build vid?
Org vid got taken down
you can just google it and find the video
Mhm, only reuploads tho
anybody know of a good $200 graphics card?
so far ive been thinking of a radeon rx 5500 xt, but im not sure if there is any graphics card that beats it at around the same pricepoint
a used 1070 off of ebay @balmy patio
What was so bad about the verge video? Never watched it

yeah it was a total 'how not to build a PC'
terminology was all wrong, bad practices
zero effort at cable management
Looks pretty good to me. Any reason why youāre going 3600 and a b450? Nothing wrong with that but you could probably get b550 for a similar price
32gb RAM? Doesnt really seem like a workstation build tbh, so dont see the need for it
Price is good so I didnāt question it. Might be good for Minecraft with mods and stuff but idk
B550m pro-vdh wifi :P
MC with mods doesnt need 16gb of RAM, let alone 32gb
212 evo not great
Depends on the mods hei
FTB for me ate like 12gb of ram, more intensive mods can def take more
MC just eats as much as it wants. Allocate 64gb and it'll take it
went with 450 cause of cheap + wifi
mix of school and game stuff so i didnāt see why not to go 32 gb ram
"3d design" isnt that specific. Some 3d design things is perfectly fine on 16gb of RAM and some would really like 32gb
I also wouldnt game and have work stuff running at once usually
save money on parts and put it elsewhere in the build
work during day game at night
What I went with
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W2KJzN
Btw, can you wait for AMD CPU/GPU launches?
$30 over budget can get a 3070 ($1140)
(B550m pro-vdh wifi time hei)
yeah iām building after black friday
Then take this with a very big grain of salt
and wait for a new list after new stuff launches
yeah iām gonna see if prices drop quickly or stay high
i wonder if 3080 gonna be in stock on black friday
@cloud oasis

Nice joke
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YfCJ7X
ive made some changes to a parts list i previously showed and would like some more opinions(yes i know there are 2 gpu things. 1 is to show the price)
ide like to keep the price around 1500 usd
im guessing the answer is yes but would a i7 10700k and a 2070 super be good for 1440p?
Depends on the game
Should be ok for most tho
At this point I would wait for a 3070 tho, much better value
true but unless they really improve the launch i dont see the point
i mean im buying all the parts at about the end of the month so i guess it works
@little osprey im going the same route
prolly going to get a 10700K unless zen 3 is way better
for price to perf
@raw gale alot of things
Here let me make you a list
@raw gale https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CqsJ7X
@little leaf wrong tag :)
nova and nova matrix :)
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/mpNNnL Would this pc be capable of streaming, Gaming and editing???
is this a homemade list or something you copied from somewhere @junior crescent ?
homemade
It would run. But, for a streaming rig 3700x is the choice.
ssd, should be something more sensible fx, sn750/mp34-ish
and iirc, that psu is not exactly good
but i would have to go look it up to verify
Its serviceable. Its not a PSU to go bragging about but it probably wont burn the pc up.
@junior crescent What kind of budget do you have?
2600 aud
and a dead end for upgrades
What do you mean a dead end for upgrades?
chipset wise on mainboard
Okay. By the time a 10700k is due for an upgrade new stuff requiring new boards will be out anyway so eh. Id say thats a solid several years without an upgrade
But a solid point the board and socket choice lock you in for one more generation max
That being said my main pc is LGA 1200 and im not regretting it.
depending on when the system will be built. zen3 might be relevant
4 more days and we know a fair deal more
I recently gave up my 3600, 1080 rig for a 10600k 1080ti combo so im stuck on 1200 for a minute
Might pick up a 3070 if they actually exist.
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/gb6XsX @junior crescent another suggestion. Keep in mind, that price is the MSRP for Australia for the 3080
but ideally, i would strongly suggest you wait a bit to buy anything :)
I'm getting a pretty noticeable 50Hz hum coming from my PC (not the speakers). I'm in Europe, where AC is 50Hz. Is there any way I could try to minimize this?
I'm not sure where it's coming from, but the PSU does already have some pretty bad coil whine so I'm keeping it as a prime suspect.
Problem is, I don't have any other PSUs I could test and this one is way out of warranty + purchased in the US.
@foggy hazel so you're saying it's a bad idea to get anything intel right now? Bc my pc they're building is gonna have that
Kinda would have to start over from scratch to switch to amd and I have no idea what parts to get then
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Xtyb8
Anything I should change ? Iām still thinking about rgb fans I should get but I donāt wanna spend 80$ for Corsair ones
Lian Li lancool II Mesh
I should get that instead?
Alright , any good rgb fans you would recommend, and rgb fan splitters ?
@knotty nacelle I'd suggest you swap the SSD over for a Mp34, 212evo is kinda bad for the price, either use the stock cooler, or something like gammaxx400 for 25$.
I'd also reccomend the Coolermaster td500 mesh if you want rgb
Gammaxx gt does, not sure about pricing rn. The stock cooler on 3700x has rgb lol
@little osprey considering that we have a cpu launch event in 4 days, it would seem illogical to not wait (if you can)
Gonna keep my options open on the cooler bc the gammaxx fans are ugly with rgb lmao , Iām probably going to look at a couple reviews and find maybe some good rgb fans @stoic island
(if someone responds to my question, please ping me)
Aw man so it's going to release even later and probably going to be out of stock for a while right
@knotty nacelle go with the stock wraith prism then
@little osprey we dont know.
But basically that's how it usually is right?
no/yes/sometimes/never
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is 70F gpu bad?
Man I'm not gonna get this computer this year by the looks of it lol
@vestal basin you might mean 71c, I don't know any temperature measuring program that doesn't default to celcius
And if thatās idle at 70c thatās really bad
If itās under load thatās alright
Under load 70c is pretty average
If you just opened windows and it's 70c is pretty bad
what are some good ways to check temps and those averages
Right thatās really bad
When do you want em
how do you check cpu temps?
Well r u amd or intel
intel
ou okay
I was gonna say ryzen master if amd lol
And xtu if Intel, but hwinfo64 does both their jobs, AND MOAR
Hwinfo64 is reliable and gives accurate temps
Yas
What do you guys think about this build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wjP32V
I will probably change the cpu in the future to 4xxx. I am especially open to recommendations about PSU.
Where?
Turkey.
750w probably is much more than I need but I'm not sure about ryzen 3600
The xt wonāt get u much more performance just higher clock speeds and a little more over locking ability if you plan on overclocking the 3600 youāll be in a similar place. Itās def worth it to lose that for a 3080 imo if you canāt seem to grab one even a used 2080ti is better than a 2070s
@dreamy harbor
thanks @calm crypt. I already bought the gpu so its late anyways. I was planning to get 3070 which if I'm not wrong almost as good as 2080ti. But computer components gets expensive as days passes so I wanted to get immediately and bought that gpu which I think I will be fine for at least 2-3 years. But I'm still not sure about cpu 3600 also looks same
Yeah I have no complaints about the build
The 3600 is a good processor
6 cores and 12 threads
At a decent price
Unless you're constantly running cpu intensive tasks that require many cores, it should suffice for general use
thanks @calm crypt. I already bought the gpu so its late anyways. I was planning to get 3070 which if Iām not wrong almost as good as 2080ti. But computer components gets expensive as days passes so I wanted to get immediately and bought that gpu which I think I will be fine for at least 2-3 years. But Iām still not sure about cpu 3600 also looks same
@dreamy harbor yea I gotchu if u already have the gpu o well itās still a solid performer, and yea the 3079 should be great like the 2080ti supposedly so yea I should be good imo I would get the 750w PSU bc of the 3070
It's plenty for gaming, workstation and video editing
Ofc not 8k 10bit footage
But it's enough for 4k
Wel ofc lol
:D
Lol imagine having an 8k video camera though
Right š¤¤
No I'm not planning anything with 4k with this pc :D
mostly gaming and programming
Ah nice
so I will be fine probably
Gaming will def be enough
Coding should still be fine but ig it depends on the code lol
Some code benefit more from higher single core performance but that's out of my area of expertise
Yea most of the time ur better off running that through ur gpu actually
So with the 2070s itāll be fine
But then why settle for a 2070s LOL
:D
But also, fair point
Lmao ikr smh shameful jkjk
If it's not 8k rtx games you wanna play
Mmmm imagine that
ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ
cries in gtx 1070
Frr
me included
Oof jeez
Minecraft with shaders LOL
LMAO Minecraft is the only game that doesnāt let 10 series cards use ray tracing
That's why we have shaders!
Iām not crying, I just got a 2070s for $350 and replace my 1660ti for another build, then when I build new in a month I can sell my pc for more š
Like I can play quake rtx on 1080 med and get 40ish FPS
Java has no rtx so I supplement it with shaders lol
Lollll big brain
With godrays too lol
My 1070 is like high on sum real non Newegg friendly words
jax u go fishin?
Nope dad never got up lmao
haha
jax would u reccomend for gpu sag the one that attachs to the back plate or the one that is like a stripper pole haha
The pole gives more direct support where it's needed
Mostly case dependent (pun fully intended)
Does ur case have enough space for that support?
The new adjustable gpu mount looks sickkk
@prisma stag I dmd u a lil question if u dont mind
too bad they dont make an rgb one
@prisma stag sorry I was biking lol they do make some rgb ones, I believe theyāre ARGB unless youāve already placed the order I can check
havent ordered yet
Alright yea lemme see bc a while back I had seen some RGB ones gimme 5
@prisma stag dms I sent u some
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y3TCmk
How does this look?
And I have a question regarding fans, can I hook up different rgb fans to the same splitter/hub?
Anyone know my problem with argb? Cooler master hyper 212 rgb and case are argb controllers, but I plugged into headers on mobo and it wonāt recognized it in ASUS rgb software
You cpuld eaisly get a 3080
X570 not needed
The hyper 212 isnt needed
That case is way to over priced
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CqsJ7X @knotty nacelle
This is the Ideal list
For just gaming
You can just switch it out for a 3700x but only for video editing or workstation
Iām streaming and stuff too @little leaf but I do have a question about fans and stuff ^
Can the deepcool cf 120 5v fans mix with the 3 fans included with the Lancool II mesh?
Reason: Bad word usage
lol
@little leaf ?
Not quiet sure what Iāll need fan wise. Im gonna be running a Lian Li O11 Dynamic and want to fill all 9 fans spots. The motherboard Im gonna be running is a b550 Tomahawk. Should I buy the Fans that come with the controller? Or should I just buy 9 fans and buy a controller separately?
seperate
@cloud oasis
ive been meaning to build an itx build for a while and i developed a part list that fits my needs
opinions if possible?
i'm going to also try and head down to my microcenter to buy all my parts at once, let me know if you can find a better combo.
So.. what's with the industrial fan?
Over priced ssd
@late stone what do you need a gen 4 ssd for?
Actually, let's start from the top
Whats the budget, what's the use-case, and what requirements?
Im also pretty sure corsair had a higher wattge sfx for same price
i wanted to utilize gen 4 as well as i could for b550, but if theres not much difference with a gen 3 nvme then all for it
(just gonna point this out)
But anyways, what's the use-case? What are you going to use it for?
oh, gaming, schoolwork, and some light video editing. i play (too much) cities skylines, gta5, csgo, minecraft, and rainbow six. i mainly just wanted to focus on 1080p gaming. my budget would likely be around $900-1000. i'm mainly looking at small form factor because i have a small amount of space to store my components in
oh - i used sfx psu because i figured more space for efficient cable routing the better, but by all means if there is a better solution we can do that :)
Hey, anyone know if the 32GB RAM G.SKILL "F4-3200C16D-32GVR" works with AMD Ryzen 7?
i donāt see why not
@late stone revision 1:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rsJMnL
So, another question for you, when are you planning to buy and build?
@stoic island well, i'm looking to buy and build as soon as possible (which i hope isnt a big deal :p )
i understand with new drops coming out
but im not interested in 30 series as it is right now
also zen 3 launch
Can you at least wait 3 days for the AMD announcement? Chances are, you won't be able to get a next gen chip, but it could mean lotta panic selling
Why are you not interested in Zen 3 launch?
maybe thatās a bit too soon to say haha
(for some reason, there's always a misconception of newer = more expensive when new generation has products at the same price ranges as old)
You make a good point with panic selling
at least i havenāt been too interested in 30 series because of what resolution i play in and it would be a tad of a waste
but i reckon i could wait a few days
At 1080p it would be especially helpful with becoming more CPU bound than higher resolutions, and AMD leaks claiming up to 25% boost in single core perf.
Leaks are not confirmed, and always need to be taken with a pretty big grain of salt
But it shows you why you should at least keep an eye out :)
i mustāve totally forgotten that they were announcing new chips i was just thinking about their rx announcements
yeah i should peel an eye
so you donāt think there would be much difference in day to day utilization with gen 3 nvme vs gen 4?
good point, maybe i could see for like server architecture and workstations
What does 3000mbps and 7000mbps mean when you're just loading up like 400mb files
@late stone cable routing = overrated
Who needs cable management >:)
in SSF systems, its a question of: Does it fit?
not a question of: oh, my EPS cable must be 1mm to the right
(case lists 150mm psu length, the BR500 I slapped into list is 140mm long)
i reckon with itx cable routing isnāt much of a deal
i mean not to the extremes that you see with aesthetic based builds
very very few ITX builds in SSF cases care about cable routing beyond the "dont jam it in a fan" part of it
and to double answer what Mr1111 said about pci3vs4 for SSD'. Yes, a benchmark will show a difference. But you are going to be quite hard pressed to notice anything in your daily use of the system
What would be the best cpu that pairs with the 3080
what platform?
id say lower end ryzen 5 3600, higher end 3700x (for content creators), i7 10700K for max gaming performance
amd ryzen is about to release zen 3 so it would be worth waiting on announcement
even if youāre not looking to buy zen 3 mr111 said above that people are gonna sell some of their chips like crazy
i mean the "best" would be something like a top binned 10900k on xoc but thats probably not feasible for a lot of people, might wanna give a price
true but in most cases a 10700K is good enough
Sff cable management no fan interaction, and no pinching when shutting sides
a 3600 is probably good enough
even the i5 10600K is pretty close to the 10700K but imo the 2 extra cores are nice to have
@night storm is that the same case linus used for his sff build with the 3080?
Dunno. Itās my Sliger sm580
yea think so
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Will I have a problem if I upgrade to 1440p playing older games?
Same case
Mine I grey though
I didnāt have to hammer any radiator
He got a radiator that was not recommended
What a dummy
it was prolly someone else who through the parts together and he had to just make do
Yea probably
I7 10700k and 3080 pretty similar build
But Iām me and heās he so I did it better.
Really nice case and made in the USA is a plus
Is this pc capable of streaming, Gaming, Editing and UE4 work?? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G6Vwrr
for sure
editing will be fine but ryzen is a bit better for streaming/editing
processor
which Ryzen processor tho
well thats the thing
Ryzen zen 3 gets announced Oct 8th
next gen ryzen
so I cant really recommend ryzen 3000 until ryzen 5000 or whatever they are calling it is released
What's a good place holder graphics card for this build?
It will be there until I get enough money for the 3080
because ryzen 3000 prices will go down but it with your current budget id say it would be best to wait for ryzen 5000
@little osprey how long until you think you can afford a 3080
Uh I get an allowance of $80 a month
So about 8-9 months if I don't spend that much
Ight
then by that time you will have enough to buy a ryzen 5 5600 or whatever they are going to call it
and a decent card
well
Ye
wouldnāt you have to wait for motherboard bios revisions? or am i being silly
i reckon yea
im sure board partners get chips quicker than anyone else
oh for sure
cuz almost immediately after announcement reviewers will get their hands on the chips
usually
i canāt believe i bought an x570 board for my first build because everyone was out of b450 
yes
it supports zen 3
but wasnāt for me at the time
i had no use for it
i believe i spent like $209 on the board
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8Wv32V @little osprey Id say something like a gtx 1650 super should hold you off for awhile but it depends on the type of games you play. if you play a bit more demanding then maybe move up to a 1660 super
then the 3700x is a place holder for zen 3 for now I guess
Why not get the EVGA and utilize the step up program
i have 1650s right now
By the time you get to the top of step up program you will probably have saved up the difference
Instead of wasting money. The amount you pay for the card goes towards the upgrade and you only pay the difference
true I just chose the gigabyte one cuz they make good coolers
i like the tuf gaming variant but i have the msi gaming x 1650s
evga step up program is good though
Only way that makes sense if you plan on upgrading to a 3080 to not just waste money
But you do you
You can take up to 90 days to sign up to the program and then you still have to wait till you get to bottom. And upgrading from 2070 super to 3080 will be about 200$ if your saving your allowance thatās more than enough time
@hazy ridge what top fan
is it just a fan header plugin? it should work if you just have it on the right header on the mobo, check if itās 12v or 5v as well
should say on the fan
its 12 v
and ya its a 3 pin plugin
and i dont have any more headers
@rustic sandal
Then youāll need a splitter
-p union dixie
@hazy ridge you might be able to Google maps "local computer hardware" and find a locally owned shop. Usually cheaper that way
That's how I got half my stuff for cheap
@hazy ridge wait why do you need a fan when you're from Canada ?
after i installed windows 10 on my new pc with a usb would i be able to wipe the usb and use it for other things?
yes
Alright so today I got a EvGA 500w bronze rated power supply and it came ineffective anyone recommend any better power supplies
budget?
Iām doing my first build so around $90
Thanks šÆ
can I see the main list?
What's the total price?
Around $1100 I have most of my parts just need my mobo and graphics card
Nice nice
Yeah Iām building it to play with my cousin he switched to pc Iām just trying to make the move as well
Yeah i was originally gonna get the new Xbox but switching to pc made more sense to me
It's just that i went a lil over the top on my build so it's gonna take me a long time to get it š
Yeah whatās your build looking like?
Damn thatās one beefy boi
I was originally gonna go for a 2k build but realized I was gonna use it for gaming
I see yea lol
And with me my parents aren't just gonna let me use it for gaming š, that pc right there is gaming,work,school and multi purpose pc
Yeah Iām trying to put mine in the middle of school and gaming š
Dude fr lmao
Iām just gonna grind Val and some other games on it
Yea and me I'ma go back to my childhood a bit
We had an old sell desktop back in like 2009 and i used to play the original plants vs zombies
Polar bowler and bus driver
And obviously newer titles like r6s, and other games
YOO PvZ I love that game
Fr i used to grind it like crazy when i was like 4 or 5 š
The original the best tho š«š§¢
True I never beat the game ima beat it once I get my pc
Hell yeah what a bargain
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Save it lol
Hell yeah thanksšÆ
Yea, Christmas is right around the corner and my birthday is like 2 weeks after so I'll ask for my mobo,ram, storage,and case
And no problem
And save for my psu,3080, and processor
Nice Iāve been saving for about 2 months now I think I should have it by the end of this month or the beginning of the next
Of course it will be my first build also so Iām pretty excited
Same
Do you think i should upgrade from the micro atx mobo to an atx? Or should i be fine with the micro
My case is atx
You should be fine with a micro but I like a full atx makes it seem cleaner for me ya know
Ye
I'm getting a pretty noticeable 50Hz hum coming from my PC (not the speakers). I'm in Europe, where AC is 50Hz. Is there any way I could try to minimize this?
I'm not sure where it's coming from, but the PSU does already have some pretty bad coil whine so I'm keeping it as a prime suspect.
Problem is, I don't have any other PSUs I could test and this one is way out of warranty + purchased in the US.
Not sure š
@marsh adder I'm not to sure about that one, if no one answers your question is suggest asking tomorrow
Sorry for the inconvenience
It's been a day for me lol
Lol i bet
Good luck hope you figure it out šÆ
What's difference between x570 and x470?
ty :)
@little osprey I'd suggest asking that in #cpus-mobo-and-memory
Well I'm not sure if I should upgrade to x570 or x470
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8jyFfP
My next upgrade
In order of upgrade
- psu 2) case 3) mobo 4) cpu 5) gpu
Well I'm trying to stick the the asus theme
Ahh
The list in total is not good
What cpu would you recommend?
Also I already have radeon software and asus software so those two aren't changing
What coh you have now
5 3600
Keep that
And I don't mean this as in this week or even possibly this month for cpu
But everything else will be by then end of the year
Most psu, case, and mobo
@little osprey from what i remember of your system. Just use your system and forget about upgrading for now
Why do you need a new cpu
Again, future if needed
@foggy hazel mostly looking to change to an easier case for cable management, and my mobo is having issues with reading RAM cards
So looking at changing those two atleast by late December
warranty is a thing
you are not pulling parts in and out a million times
so what if it takes you an extra hour to fix things the ONE time you will be doing it
yes, because your parts are DEFECTIVE
as i said, warranty is a thing
IF you dont want to fix things, there is nothing i can say that will help.
Plus didn't you say I should replace the thermaltake sometime soon?
i suggested that your choice is PSU was doubtful
Yeah, many people told me it usually end up failing early or immediately
but, you have honestly been all over the place with the parts you have talked about.
True
But this is basically it for me
My final decision
A lot of my back and forth recently was due to availability really.
I'm buying local since it's usually cheaper, and in my cases, it has been
@junior crescent whichever is at the higher end of the consumer lines from either intel or amd
Were any of you guys able to buy a 30 series card, if so how long did it take to ship?
@little osprey ordered mine oct 2, delivering dec 9
Yo
Just built my first PC the other day and i absolutely love it.
Heres the list https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cM2RsX
Lemme know about what yall think! I wanna hear other peoples thoughts on it
Lost me at the case
As i said my very first PC build lol i wasnt going for crazy looks
I didnt know what to do with the graphics card wire so i put it going up to help with GPU sag
sana all
is there much diffrence between UMA Gpu and HD Gpu and if yes whats better?
CL18 memory?
@inner crystal whatās the strix thing do
go brrrrrr
@strange basin UMA and HD???
what are they?
@outer heart gpu overpriced atm
why do you need 32gb of ram?
@strange basin UMA and HD???
Graphics card
Hd=intergrated
and UMA something similar
???
Can you tell me the specifics?
Never heard of them
@strange basin first, integrated means it isn't a graphics card, second, maybe you mean like intel UHD 620, I don't know of HD, and I can't even think of anything that resembles UMA?
What is UMA graphic?
Unlike discrete graphics which have dedicated video memory on the card, systems with integrated graphics are based on Unified Memory Architecture (UMA) technology, which means a portion of the system memory is shared with the integrated graphics controller.
I'm 80% sure most iGPUs just use system ram
sooo
what specific models are you looking at?
if it's just an architecture
all iGPUs use system memory
UMA is the technology behind sharing system memory with another memory contriller
I don't want to say all because I know there are really weird iGPUs out there
like vega on intel
I mean, I consider if it's on the CPU, it's an iGPU
wouldn't AMD not have iGPUs under that logic?
I still call them iGPUs for the graphics processing unit
Like would you call vega 11 an iGPU or an APU?
i mean, i would call it an iGPU
it's just less confusing that way imo
yeah i guess
but i think the only iGPU that doesnt use system memory are the 5 intel cpus with vega onboard
@strange basin so anyways, what are the specific models you are looking at for comparison?
doesn't HMB use system ram anyways?
high bandwidth memory and host memory bus are two very different things
oops
its HBM
kek
i was trying to figure out why the acronym resulted in an incoherent statement
HBM stack sounds fun
its literally the best, its just still slower than ddr
HBM2 for Radeon VII
but not by much
i feel like HBM should just become commonplace in gpus in the future, it would be one less thing to worry about cooling
for waterblock and heatsink design
hm
I was tryna find a source for the "gddr6x beats hbm2", can't find anything so might be wrong
but apparently HBM2 is much more expensive
Is Intel or Ryzen CPU's better for gaming?
I have a ryzen 7 2700x and i want to upgrade but im stumped on what will give me the best performance
Im new to pc gaming so im wanting the best combo for the 3080 when i get my hands on one
What's going on
Zen 3 is coming up very soon
@lucid walrus what do you need it to do?
there's a 95% chance you'll get better value from a b550 board, but what do we know about you?
Just some basic overclocking
I mean in terms of IO and such
the chipset themselves mean NOTHING for overclocking
that's all dependent on a model
Ok
like a great B550 board can easily better overclock than a crappy x570 board
thats great @small osprey why no 1440 240 or 1080 240
idk i dont think i need it
the 1080 is for stuff like discord
144hz is for my games
Never seen that case design before. Where did you find that weird case? @granite imp
Never seen that case design before. Where did you find that weird case? @granite imp
@night iron pulled the pic from Twitter. Iād assume itās fully custom
Okay thanks for the answer @granite imp
Which component do you guys usually like to start with when it comes to a new build? Guessing GPU or CPU first?
@night iron
@glacial sand start with buying?
or like
start with building
when you're building, it's motherboard on the table, cpu, ram, ssd in first
Buying I'd say
Ah ok, because I wanted to buy bits of it at a time since my budget doesn't allow me to purchase all at once.
So do this
Ah good call cause things change fast huh
When you have the money to buy a component, set that same amount aside, as if you bought it
Then once youāve saved enough, buy it all at once and you may be able to find better deals
Also you may have something planned
Amazing info guys much appreciated
And by the time you go to buy them stuff may be out of stock
And throw a wrench in your gears
I know at Microcenter you get $20 off when you pair a mobo and cpu
Amazing
Is your 2600x 2060 super reference to your cpu and GPU?
yes, that is the case for him @glacial sand
@granite imp love the build btw
My coworker swears by the 3600x and tells me if you have less than 1650 GTX you will not enjoy upcoming games
@granite imp love the build btw
@polar prism not mine, pulled from Reddit pcmr
It depends. The 1070 and 1080 cards are still usable but theyāre getting slower now
Ohhh okay. Still a cool build tho
Thatās mine
Also a 1080 would be slightly cheaper or the same price as a 1660 or 2060
I really want ray tracing in my new rig so won't be going lower than RTX cards
How much do you have for a gpu
Right now I have 1000 in mind for a new pc
Then you should probably go for a 2060 super if you want RTX
Unless the 2070s drop in price after the 3070 comes
True, what's the big hype about the founders edition?
@granite imp @stoic island @polar prism cheers mates
The founders edition looks good and finally has some good thermals. Not as good as the custom cards but theyāre usable now
True, what's the big hype about the founders edition?
@glacial sand better performance than 2080ti at a fraction of the cost
I'm back
If youāre lucky enough to get one
@glacial sand just come back again when you're set on how much you want to spend and when you want to spend it.
and also, the hype isn't about the "founders edition" model of the card, the hype is more about the GPU itself, the RTX 3070 GPU can perform better than the 2080ti at a fraction of the cost
And that applies to practically all AIB models of the GPUs
Just ask 10 people for a dollar every day, and in 3 months youāll have enough
@stoic island some of the hype is ALSO about the FE (founders edition) cooler.
Is it me or the rtx 3000 Msi gaming x trio looks way uglier than the rtx 2000 gaming x trio
It's mainly on the 3070, since the hype for the 3080 and 3090 FE has been realized and seen with the good thermals
The 2000 gaming x trio looks way nicer imo
Good thermals. Still worse than AIBs tho
worse than some
depends on the specific card
but it's definitely a step up from before
Even the Zotac is nearly 10c cooler
is it?
Haven't had time to look at the major AIB thermal testing yet
@little osprey imo new looks soo much better, it's actually symmetrical now
it looks a lot like the duke oc on the 1080ti and 2070 now
3 symmetrical fans
instead of gaming x on the 2080ti having 1 fan dif size
Yeah but most people donāt see it unless itās a vertical mount
I donāt like some of the 30 series cards, but most are good
The side looks much nicer
we're talking about dif parts of the card then
idrc about side looks
it's just there
Yeah but thatās what most people see
mhm, it's what I believe
Evga for once did an amazing job on their card design
Which is a shocker because their cards are usually pretty ugly
Whatās the controversy
I really like it. It grew on me
Yeah
Totally different than before
not really controversy but people hate the red accent
The red edges arenāt too bad IMO
some people
set the rgb to solid red, and the card would look sick in a black and red themed build
Yeah I have no idea why card manufacturers have to make accents
@viral ore thatās what I might do when I get mine
But in the end most@people wonāt even see it because the side panels are tinted
The msi rtx 2080 trio has a red accent I cannot see
Also they are going to have covers or replacements for them
The nzxt h510 series has it
I donāt have nice cables so itās nice to hide them
I mean theyāre stock Corsair RMx cables but still
im happy my case is not tinted at all, its nice
Iām happy that I bought the rtx 2080s in July instead of waiting tbh
Everythingās put together outside of the case so I just have to put the ram in and mount the gpu to test, then put it in the case
Otherwise@id be waiting months more due to lack of stock
Yeah I picked up a 2070 super
Which is what I predicted
yea july was fine
Everyone at the time told me it was around the corner but I really didnāt care
Not tryna wait 6 more months
The 2070 and up will be good for the next 2-3 years
I only really started recommending people grab new GPUs in sept. because I didn't think about stock
@polar prism but I want a new card to replace my 2070 :(
Iāll wait for the rtx 5000 lol
I mean you can prob get one by January or after
The 3080 still cannot pull off 1080p 144fps with all ultra settings and ray tracing with max dxt reflections on
Well
On all games
1080 is cpu intensive itās not on the gpu for that
Wdym 1080
1080p
I have a ryzen 9 3900x and 64gb ram lol
Itās an editing pc but I play games time to time
My cpu never reaches 100% on games
Yes. Iām just saying the 3080 canāt improve 1080p FPS that much
Yeah I just want 144hz gaming with all max settjngs and ray teacing on all games
If you look at benchmarks, when the gpu is pushed from 1080p to 1440p it performs better
Once the hardware comes out for@it@Iāll buy it
Also canāt you just increase render wuality to make it like 1440p
Iām not sure if you can with a 1080p monitor but if you can then I think that would help
I have 1440p so Iām not sure on that
Well regardless no resolution can do full 144hz gaming at all max settings
So I really donāt care if the rtx 2080s has 80fps and the 3080 has 100-110 on games
Iāll upgrade when I can do full 144hz
Well youāre realistic. Not saying itās a bad thing, but a lot of people arenāt and they want the 30-40 FPS boost
Yeah
Even though it wonāt make a massive difference in all honesty. Although the 30 series is very good at 4K
I care more about FPS than resolution
Other people have other opinions
But Iām just an fps person
Same. I think 1440p is perfect. 4K is too much IMO
1080p is just fine for me and I prefer is over 4K 60fps
I might upgrade to 1440p in the future but itās an expensive upgrade considering my ocd would make me get all the new monitors to be the same model
But right now no hardware supports full 1440p 144hz max settings ray tracing
Fair point. I have one 32ā dell. I like it a lot
Yeah 32ā needs 1440p
Well 100+ FPS with ray tracing on is still good
I have a 27 inch 1080p 144hz and Iām totally fine with it
@little osprey plenty of hardware supports it, but nothing can run it at that specified rate <- is probably the more correct way to phrase it :)
Not every game can push 144hz full max dxr ray racing at full quality
again, that is about the performance, not the "support" :)
Yeah wrong words
for the builders that might be lurking.
walmart has a weird offer at the moment
and no, that one is not on pcpp, but 270 usd for the 3700x is a fair deal :)
@stoic island see above :)
@foggy hazel glad I bought mine last week 
that is how it always goes :)
I mean I guess Iāll update my cpu
Indeed. I finally bought everything after I watched J2C video where he said if youāre always waiting for a deal or the next best thing youāll never get anything
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JPZzK3
can i get some opinions on the motherboard in this list?
@little leaf side note: you see the walmart link above?
aye
ah sorry i didnt realize that thanks
Maybe I will get a 3700x
Maybe I will get a 3700x
@little leaf we all should
walmart has a weird offer at the moment
@foggy hazel share in #tech-deals
same
its in #general-chat
@foggy hazel i did it š
well done :)
Now I have to figure out how to change the memory speed lol
I appreciate everyone who helped me with the parts and all my questions
Should i just get a lian li lancool ii mesh tired of waiting for p500a :/
@polar prism is that rgb amd cooler a stock cooler or after market? š¤š¤š¤
Ohhhhh
Fancy
Rgb always better performance
Iām jealous. Stock 2600x no flashy lights
Can someone review this list for me?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YhQ8Wb
Itās good just replace the ssd with a wd sn750 500gb
Also if you can wait for new stuff
Ands announcing new processors on the 8th and new graphics cards on the 27th
Oh alright thanks
That was my first list so I was scared I'd have to change everything lol
what about no
what do you guys think of this i was thinking of upgrading to this
why 1080p280hz
can anyone help me w a rgb cooler
Whats a good gpu that's around $220
used 1660 ti @marble timber or a new 1660/1660s
Where would I get one?
Used or new?
Both
Reddit (r/hardwareswap always has great deals and people who know why theyāre talking about, OfferUp, Mercado, eBay (just donāt get scammed) but for new amazon or Newegg is your best option
Ok thank you!
Np!
Can anyone help me
pp
Thatās awesome
that wall art is sick you gotta post a link if you have it
im helping my friend with pc parts list, and I was wondering if a ryzen 7 3700x and a 3070 will work fine together
so a ryzen 7 3700x wont bottle neck the 3070
R5 3600 might be a good choice too depending on what the benchmarks show. And no a 3700x will not bottleneck a 3070
yo wtf
i just loaded modern warfare
and i saw shapes and shi
and the world wasnt fully loaded
a ryzen 7 3700x will work fine with a b450 tomahawk max right?
Probably but I would say b550 would be a better move. Pcie 4 on it
B550 good
b550 would be a better choice because then with a bios update you could upgrade later to a Zen 3 chip
pcie 4.0 main point
but future proof
but for m.2s they are pretty good
