#building-and-recc-chat

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small osprey
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Wutever u do u

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Anyways about the mobo

desert gulch
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Fred will you be editing and stuff alot?

lunar cloud
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i will stick to the cpu and cooler, but is there anything you can tell me about the mobo?

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ryan, rarely

small osprey
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There r z490 boards with wifi for 200

lunar cloud
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maybe stream sometimes

small osprey
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300 is extremely overpriced for a mobo

desert gulch
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Ok good

lunar cloud
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if i use ethernet, what does the wifi mean?

small osprey
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Wait ur using ethernet?

lunar cloud
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correct

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always

small osprey
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Then why do u have a wifi board

desert gulch
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Was gonna say if you want a workstation pc for editing and cad alot, gotta go amd

lunar cloud
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i dont?

small osprey
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Bruh it says wifi 6

lunar cloud
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right ryan

small osprey
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And otherwise it wouldnt cost 300

still roostBOT
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PureFred#4210 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

lunar cloud
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ah sh*t they put it at the end 🤣

small osprey
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There r z490 boards that r good for around 150

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Idk much about intel boards tho

lunar cloud
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on pc part picker it doesnt say the words wifi anywhere

small osprey
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Welll um then u got the wrong model

lunar cloud
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only at the very end it said that

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soi can get a meg z490 lga1200 non wifi right

stoic island
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Unify doesn't have a model without afaik

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Unify is an extremely expensive mobo anyways, why do you want one?

lunar cloud
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guys im very new to motherboards i just looked over it

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please educate me on motherboards if you would like

stoic island
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Gigabyte z490 gaming x is about the price range you should be looking at

lunar cloud
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i play ethernet, so no need for wifi

stoic island
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Like ~160$ z490 boards.

desert gulch
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Mr1 is very big brain in mobos

lunar cloud
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mr1111 i did see that one yesterday

stoic island
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No I'm smol brain

lunar cloud
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this one is good with i7-10700k right?

stoic island
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Yes

lunar cloud
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and its lan

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looks better

stoic island
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What's the pricing rn

lunar cloud
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comes out to 630

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fan 90, mobo 180, cpu 360

stoic island
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Hmm

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180$ for it is a bit much for x570 gaming x

lunar cloud
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uh huh

stoic island
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Can you check pricing on msi z490-a I think it was

lunar cloud
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sure

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gigabyte

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or my old one?

stoic island
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I expect gaming x around 150-160$

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So would z490-a

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And maybe an Asus z490-p

lunar cloud
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the cheapest one is 116 but is sued

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used

stoic island
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I'm on mobile rn

lunar cloud
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thats fine

stoic island
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I'll check stuff later

lunar cloud
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sure, but i looked at diff sellers and the cheapest is 170 instead of 180

stoic island
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It's really damn hard to try to remember boards at a price without checking prices

lunar cloud
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lol

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so i should wait till u get on pc?

desert gulch
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Mr1 bot doesnt catch damn?

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Dang

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I thought it would lol

lunar cloud
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damn

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😮

desert gulch
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Lol

pliant wren
agile bear
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maybe get a better case

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also why i5 over ryzen?

pliant wren
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Im thinking about it

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Which would you recommend?

foggy hazel
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@pliant wren when are you planning to build?

agile bear
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you might want to see how ryzen 5000 series and new amd gpus come out to put something together

rustic sandal
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@pliant wren $20 more for CL16 last time I checked RAM prices if you would like that

pliant wren
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What do you mean @rustic sandal

rustic sandal
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your ram timing is cl18, cl16 is faster

pliant wren
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@foggy hazel Im planning to build within the next three months

rustic sandal
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And not too much more expensive for 2x16

pliant wren
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Thanks

rustic sandal
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Yw!

agile bear
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if you want to build within next three months

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buy ram cooler psu and storage now and wait for platform and gpu to go down in price or a better part comes

little osprey
stoic island
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@agile bear don't do that

little osprey
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I am going to buy my gpu off of eBay but what do you guys think of this?

stoic island
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Buy everything at once

agile bear
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Y?

stoic island
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I agree with wait for GPU prices

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but what if you got stuff DoA?

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and then 3 months later you can't return it for something better

agile bear
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tru

foggy hazel
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buy ram cooler psu and storage now and wait for platform and gpu to go down in price or a better part comes <- this is a VERY bad idea imo

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save your money, wait.

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prices are not going up

zinc nacelle
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Do you think buying half of the parts a month between will give you enough time before you can return

foggy hazel
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why risk it? <- for you @zinc nacelle

zinc nacelle
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For me it's cuz my parent doesn't wanna drop 1k all at once, they prefer me getting it little by little

foggy hazel
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tell them that buying a car bit by bit is a bad idea

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its the same for a computer

zinc nacelle
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I wanna see if they'll let me get them all at once but idk how return policies usually work

foggy hazel
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depends on the vendor/seller

zinc nacelle
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Ah ok, I hope they'll understand

winged cairn
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Does anyone have the link to The Verge Build vid?

stoic island
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Org vid got taken down

ripe wedge
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you can just google it and find the video

stoic island
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Mhm, only reuploads tho

balmy patio
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anybody know of a good $200 graphics card?

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so far ive been thinking of a radeon rx 5500 xt, but im not sure if there is any graphics card that beats it at around the same pricepoint

viral ore
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a used 1070 off of ebay @balmy patio

little osprey
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What was so bad about the verge video? Never watched it

polar prism
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A lot

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Just was not doing things right and spreading some misinformation

little osprey
spiral zealot
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yeah it was a total 'how not to build a PC'

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terminology was all wrong, bad practices

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zero effort at cable management

outer heart
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how’s this

polar prism
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Looks pretty good to me. Any reason why you’re going 3600 and a b450? Nothing wrong with that but you could probably get b550 for a similar price

cursive wharf
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32gb RAM? Doesnt really seem like a workstation build tbh, so dont see the need for it

polar prism
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Price is good so I didn’t question it. Might be good for Minecraft with mods and stuff but idk

stoic island
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B550m pro-vdh wifi :P

cursive wharf
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MC with mods doesnt need 16gb of RAM, let alone 32gb

stoic island
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212 evo not great

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Depends on the mods hei

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FTB for me ate like 12gb of ram, more intensive mods can def take more

cursive wharf
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MC just eats as much as it wants. Allocate 64gb and it'll take it

stoic island
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Yes

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I'm referring to in-game utilization

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but anyways

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it is weird setup

outer heart
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went with 450 cause of cheap + wifi
mix of school and game stuff so i didn’t see why not to go 32 gb ram

cursive wharf
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what kind of school stuff?

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auto CAD?

outer heart
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3d design, many documents at once with google meet

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and msfs

cursive wharf
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"3d design" isnt that specific. Some 3d design things is perfectly fine on 16gb of RAM and some would really like 32gb

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I also wouldnt game and have work stuff running at once usually

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save money on parts and put it elsewhere in the build

stoic island
outer heart
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work during day game at night

cursive wharf
stoic island
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Btw, can you wait for AMD CPU/GPU launches?

cursive wharf
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$30 over budget can get a 3070 ($1140)

stoic island
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(B550m pro-vdh wifi time hei)

outer heart
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yeah i’m building after black friday

stoic island
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Then take this with a very big grain of salt

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and wait for a new list after new stuff launches

outer heart
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yeah i’m gonna see if prices drop quickly or stay high

prisma stag
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i wonder if 3080 gonna be in stock on black friday

prisma stag
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@cloud oasis

cloud oasis
shut flare
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Nice joke

fresh plinth
little osprey
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im guessing the answer is yes but would a i7 10700k and a 2070 super be good for 1440p?

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Depends on the game
Should be ok for most tho
At this point I would wait for a 3070 tho, much better value

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true but unless they really improve the launch i dont see the point

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i mean im buying all the parts at about the end of the month so i guess it works

ripe wedge
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@little osprey im going the same route

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prolly going to get a 10700K unless zen 3 is way better

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for price to perf

potent prairie
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My next rig is likely gonna be ryzen 9 or threadripper

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No longer team blue

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:)

little leaf
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@raw gale alot of things

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Here let me make you a list

foggy hazel
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@little leaf wrong tag :)

little leaf
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Wat

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Ah

foggy hazel
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nova and nova matrix :)

little leaf
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Im on crack again

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A daily occurrence

junior crescent
foggy hazel
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is this a homemade list or something you copied from somewhere @junior crescent ?

junior crescent
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homemade

foggy hazel
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its a fairly unbalanced build

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cpu: should be 3700x

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ram, should be 3600 cl16

jade flame
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It would run. But, for a streaming rig 3700x is the choice.

foggy hazel
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ssd, should be something more sensible fx, sn750/mp34-ish

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and iirc, that psu is not exactly good

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but i would have to go look it up to verify

jade flame
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Its serviceable. Its not a PSU to go bragging about but it probably wont burn the pc up.

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@junior crescent What kind of budget do you have?

junior crescent
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2600 aud

jade flame
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@junior crescent Id go for something like this

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Way more balanced

foggy hazel
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and a dead end for upgrades

jade flame
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What do you mean a dead end for upgrades?

foggy hazel
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chipset wise on mainboard

jade flame
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Okay. By the time a 10700k is due for an upgrade new stuff requiring new boards will be out anyway so eh. Id say thats a solid several years without an upgrade

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But a solid point the board and socket choice lock you in for one more generation max

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That being said my main pc is LGA 1200 and im not regretting it.

foggy hazel
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depending on when the system will be built. zen3 might be relevant

jade flame
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^

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Always a consideration

foggy hazel
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4 more days and we know a fair deal more

jade flame
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I recently gave up my 3600, 1080 rig for a 10600k 1080ti combo so im stuck on 1200 for a minute

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Might pick up a 3070 if they actually exist.

foggy hazel
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but ideally, i would strongly suggest you wait a bit to buy anything :)

marsh adder
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I'm getting a pretty noticeable 50Hz hum coming from my PC (not the speakers). I'm in Europe, where AC is 50Hz. Is there any way I could try to minimize this?

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I'm not sure where it's coming from, but the PSU does already have some pretty bad coil whine so I'm keeping it as a prime suspect.

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Problem is, I don't have any other PSUs I could test and this one is way out of warranty + purchased in the US.

little osprey
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@foggy hazel so you're saying it's a bad idea to get anything intel right now? Bc my pc they're building is gonna have that

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Kinda would have to start over from scratch to switch to amd and I have no idea what parts to get then

knotty nacelle
whole stag
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Lian Li lancool II Mesh

knotty nacelle
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I should get that instead?

whole stag
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Yeah

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Better airflow

knotty nacelle
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Alright , any good rgb fans you would recommend, and rgb fan splitters ?

stoic island
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@knotty nacelle I'd suggest you swap the SSD over for a Mp34, 212evo is kinda bad for the price, either use the stock cooler, or something like gammaxx400 for 25$.

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I'd also reccomend the Coolermaster td500 mesh if you want rgb

knotty nacelle
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Does the gammaxx have rgb? I want it to look smexy

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What about fans?

stoic island
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Gammaxx gt does, not sure about pricing rn. The stock cooler on 3700x has rgb lol

foggy hazel
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@little osprey considering that we have a cpu launch event in 4 days, it would seem illogical to not wait (if you can)

knotty nacelle
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Gonna keep my options open on the cooler bc the gammaxx fans are ugly with rgb lmao , I’m probably going to look at a couple reviews and find maybe some good rgb fans @stoic island

marsh adder
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(if someone responds to my question, please ping me)

little osprey
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hmmm

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So in 4 days they they come out?

little osprey
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Aw man so it's going to release even later and probably going to be out of stock for a while right

stoic island
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@knotty nacelle go with the stock wraith prism then

foggy hazel
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@little osprey we dont know.

little osprey
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But basically that's how it usually is right?

foggy hazel
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no/yes/sometimes/never

calm crypt
vestal basin
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is 70F gpu bad?

knotty nacelle
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Nooooo very good

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21c is ice cold

little osprey
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Man I'm not gonna get this computer this year by the looks of it lol

jagged ember
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Who just used fahrenheit for computer temps

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That is not allowed

stoic island
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@vestal basin you might mean 71c, I don't know any temperature measuring program that doesn't default to celcius

vestal basin
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oh dam

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big difference

calm crypt
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And if that’s idle at 70c that’s really bad

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If it’s under load that’s alright

stoic island
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Under load 70c is pretty average

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If you just opened windows and it's 70c is pretty bad

vestal basin
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what are some good ways to check temps and those averages

calm crypt
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Right that’s really bad

stoic island
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When do you want em

vestal basin
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how do you check cpu temps?

calm crypt
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Well r u amd or intel

vestal basin
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intel

stoic island
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Hwinfo64

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Either way

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Great program to see everything

vestal basin
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ou okay

calm crypt
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I was gonna say ryzen master if amd lol

stoic island
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And xtu if Intel, but hwinfo64 does both their jobs, AND MOAR

jagged ember
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Hwinfo64 is reliable and gives accurate temps

stoic island
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Yas

dreamy harbor
little leaf
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Bad

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Could easily get a 3080

dreamy harbor
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I live outside of US

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Thats my budget

little leaf
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Where?

dreamy harbor
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Turkey.

little leaf
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Ok

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Your budget is 1500 us dollars?

dreamy harbor
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Lot of taxes here so its hella expensive will be 30 series

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yea almost 1500$

little leaf
dreamy harbor
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750w probably is much more than I need but I'm not sure about ryzen 3600

calm crypt
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The xt won’t get u much more performance just higher clock speeds and a little more over locking ability if you plan on overclocking the 3600 you’ll be in a similar place. It’s def worth it to lose that for a 3080 imo if you can’t seem to grab one even a used 2080ti is better than a 2070s

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@dreamy harbor

dreamy harbor
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thanks @calm crypt. I already bought the gpu so its late anyways. I was planning to get 3070 which if I'm not wrong almost as good as 2080ti. But computer components gets expensive as days passes so I wanted to get immediately and bought that gpu which I think I will be fine for at least 2-3 years. But I'm still not sure about cpu 3600 also looks same

jagged ember
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Yeah I have no complaints about the build

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The 3600 is a good processor

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6 cores and 12 threads

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At a decent price

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Unless you're constantly running cpu intensive tasks that require many cores, it should suffice for general use

calm crypt
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thanks @calm crypt. I already bought the gpu so its late anyways. I was planning to get 3070 which if I’m not wrong almost as good as 2080ti. But computer components gets expensive as days passes so I wanted to get immediately and bought that gpu which I think I will be fine for at least 2-3 years. But I’m still not sure about cpu 3600 also looks same
@dreamy harbor yea I gotchu if u already have the gpu o well it’s still a solid performer, and yea the 3079 should be great like the 2080ti supposedly so yea I should be good imo I would get the 750w PSU bc of the 3070

jagged ember
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It's plenty for gaming, workstation and video editing

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Ofc not 8k 10bit footage

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But it's enough for 4k

calm crypt
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Wel ofc lol

dreamy harbor
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:D

jagged ember
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Lol imagine having an 8k video camera though

calm crypt
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Right 🤤

dreamy harbor
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No I'm not planning anything with 4k with this pc :D

jagged ember
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Nice

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Is it mostly for workstation use?

dreamy harbor
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mostly gaming and programming

jagged ember
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Ah nice

dreamy harbor
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so I will be fine probably

jagged ember
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Gaming will def be enough

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Coding should still be fine but ig it depends on the code lol

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Some code benefit more from higher single core performance but that's out of my area of expertise

calm crypt
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Yea most of the time ur better off running that through ur gpu actually

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So with the 2070s it’ll be fine

jagged ember
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But then why settle for a 2070s LOL

dreamy harbor
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:D

jagged ember
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But also, fair point

calm crypt
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Lmao ikr smh shameful jkjk

jagged ember
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If it's not 8k rtx games you wanna play

calm crypt
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Mmmm imagine that

jagged ember
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ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ

calm crypt
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cries in gtx 1070

jagged ember
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Dude at least you have something worth upgrading to

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2070S owners are crying rn

calm crypt
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Frr

jagged ember
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me included

calm crypt
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Oof jeez

jagged ember
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'Big oof, linus'

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To be fair tho I kinda needed it when I built it so

calm crypt
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Lol yea gotchu

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I mean I still play games in rtx

jagged ember
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Minecraft with shaders LOL

calm crypt
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LMAO Minecraft is the only game that doesn’t let 10 series cards use ray tracing

jagged ember
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That's why we have shaders!

rustic sandal
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I’m not crying, I just got a 2070s for $350 and replace my 1660ti for another build, then when I build new in a month I can sell my pc for more šŸ˜‰

calm crypt
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Like I can play quake rtx on 1080 med and get 40ish FPS

jagged ember
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Java has no rtx so I supplement it with shaders lol

calm crypt
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Lollll big brain

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With godrays too lol

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My 1070 is like high on sum real non Newegg friendly words

prisma stag
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jax u go fishin?

calm crypt
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Nope dad never got up lmao

prisma stag
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haha

calm crypt
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I’ll prolly go hit a lake or tn

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Or hit tns falling tide 🧐

prisma stag
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jax would u reccomend for gpu sag the one that attachs to the back plate or the one that is like a stripper pole haha

jagged ember
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The pole gives more direct support where it's needed

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Mostly case dependent (pun fully intended)

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Does ur case have enough space for that support?

prisma stag
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YEA ITS TD500 CASE

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oops sry for caps, just got out of league game

jagged ember
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I'd go for it

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I'd prefer the pole unless you don't like how it'll look

prisma stag
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sweet

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imma do it

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thanks

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too bad they dont make an rgb one

jagged ember
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Just put rgb strips on it

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Problem fixed

rustic sandal
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The new adjustable gpu mount looks sickkk

stark tangle
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@prisma stag I dmd u a lil question if u dont mind

calm crypt
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too bad they dont make an rgb one
@prisma stag sorry I was biking lol they do make some rgb ones, I believe they’re ARGB unless you’ve already placed the order I can check

prisma stag
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havent ordered yet

calm crypt
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Alright yea lemme see bc a while back I had seen some RGB ones gimme 5

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@prisma stag dms I sent u some

knotty nacelle
little leaf
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Purpose?

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But either way not good

rustic sandal
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Anyone know my problem with argb? Cooler master hyper 212 rgb and case are argb controllers, but I plugged into headers on mobo and it won’t recognized it in ASUS rgb software

little leaf
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You cpuld eaisly get a 3080

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X570 not needed

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The hyper 212 isnt needed

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That case is way to over priced

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This is the Ideal list

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For just gaming

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You can just switch it out for a 3700x but only for video editing or workstation

knotty nacelle
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I’m streaming and stuff too @little leaf but I do have a question about fans and stuff ^
Can the deepcool cf 120 5v fans mix with the 3 fans included with the Lancool II mesh?

still roostBOT
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Squidkiller_38#1510 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

little leaf
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Wtf

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Molbile shr

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Give me a sec

cloud oasis
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lol

knotty nacelle
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@little leaf ?

karmic anchor
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Not quiet sure what I’ll need fan wise. Im gonna be running a Lian Li O11 Dynamic and want to fill all 9 fans spots. The motherboard Im gonna be running is a b550 Tomahawk. Should I buy the Fans that come with the controller? Or should I just buy 9 fans and buy a controller separately?

cloud oasis
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seperate

prisma stag
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@cloud oasis

late stone
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ive been meaning to build an itx build for a while and i developed a part list that fits my needs

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opinions if possible?

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i'm going to also try and head down to my microcenter to buy all my parts at once, let me know if you can find a better combo.

stoic island
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So.. what's with the industrial fan?

little leaf
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Over priced ssd

stoic island
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@late stone what do you need a gen 4 ssd for?

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Actually, let's start from the top

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Whats the budget, what's the use-case, and what requirements?

little leaf
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Im also pretty sure corsair had a higher wattge sfx for same price

late stone
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i wanted to utilize gen 4 as well as i could for b550, but if theres not much difference with a gen 3 nvme then all for it

prisma stag
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do u plan to game

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or

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what u using ur pc for

stoic island
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But anyways, what's the use-case? What are you going to use it for?

late stone
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oh, gaming, schoolwork, and some light video editing. i play (too much) cities skylines, gta5, csgo, minecraft, and rainbow six. i mainly just wanted to focus on 1080p gaming. my budget would likely be around $900-1000. i'm mainly looking at small form factor because i have a small amount of space to store my components in

stoic island
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Okay

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I'll get to it now

late stone
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oh - i used sfx psu because i figured more space for efficient cable routing the better, but by all means if there is a better solution we can do that :)

tidal whale
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Hey, anyone know if the 32GB RAM G.SKILL "F4-3200C16D-32GVR" works with AMD Ryzen 7?

balmy patio
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i don’t see why not

stoic island
late stone
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@stoic island well, i'm looking to buy and build as soon as possible (which i hope isnt a big deal :p )

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i understand with new drops coming out

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but im not interested in 30 series as it is right now

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also zen 3 launch

stoic island
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Can you at least wait 3 days for the AMD announcement? Chances are, you won't be able to get a next gen chip, but it could mean lotta panic selling

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Why are you not interested in Zen 3 launch?

late stone
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maybe that’s a bit too soon to say haha

stoic island
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(for some reason, there's always a misconception of newer = more expensive when new generation has products at the same price ranges as old)

late stone
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You make a good point with panic selling

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at least i haven’t been too interested in 30 series because of what resolution i play in and it would be a tad of a waste

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but i reckon i could wait a few days

stoic island
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At 1080p it would be especially helpful with becoming more CPU bound than higher resolutions, and AMD leaks claiming up to 25% boost in single core perf.

late stone
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oh, i see

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25% boost?

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ooh

stoic island
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Leaks are not confirmed, and always need to be taken with a pretty big grain of salt

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But it shows you why you should at least keep an eye out :)

late stone
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i must’ve totally forgotten that they were announcing new chips i was just thinking about their rx announcements

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yeah i should peel an eye

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so you don’t think there would be much difference in day to day utilization with gen 3 nvme vs gen 4?

stoic island
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There's literally none in usual day to day

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Think about it

late stone
#

good point, maybe i could see for like server architecture and workstations

stoic island
#

What does 3000mbps and 7000mbps mean when you're just loading up like 400mb files

foggy hazel
#

@late stone cable routing = overrated

stoic island
#

Who needs cable management >:)

foggy hazel
#

in SSF systems, its a question of: Does it fit?

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not a question of: oh, my EPS cable must be 1mm to the right

stoic island
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(case lists 150mm psu length, the BR500 I slapped into list is 140mm long)

late stone
#

i reckon with itx cable routing isn’t much of a deal

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i mean not to the extremes that you see with aesthetic based builds

foggy hazel
#

very very few ITX builds in SSF cases care about cable routing beyond the "dont jam it in a fan" part of it

#

and to double answer what Mr1111 said about pci3vs4 for SSD'. Yes, a benchmark will show a difference. But you are going to be quite hard pressed to notice anything in your daily use of the system

junior crescent
#

What would be the best cpu that pairs with the 3080

late stone
#

what platform?

ripe wedge
#

id say lower end ryzen 5 3600, higher end 3700x (for content creators), i7 10700K for max gaming performance

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amd ryzen is about to release zen 3 so it would be worth waiting on announcement

late stone
#

even if you’re not looking to buy zen 3 mr111 said above that people are gonna sell some of their chips like crazy

ripe wedge
#

yep

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and 3700x will be cheaper

deep skiff
#

i mean the "best" would be something like a top binned 10900k on xoc but thats probably not feasible for a lot of people, might wanna give a price

ripe wedge
#

true but in most cases a 10700K is good enough

night storm
#

Sff cable management no fan interaction, and no pinching when shutting sides

deep skiff
#

a 3600 is probably good enough

ripe wedge
#

even the i5 10600K is pretty close to the 10700K but imo the 2 extra cores are nice to have

#

@night storm is that the same case linus used for his sff build with the 3080?

night storm
#

Dunno. It’s my Sliger sm580

ripe wedge
#

yea think so

night storm
#

Waiting on step up for my 3080

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Yup

olive kraken
#

Will I have a problem if I upgrade to 1440p playing older games?

night storm
#

Same case

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Mine I grey though

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I didn’t have to hammer any radiator

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He got a radiator that was not recommended

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What a dummy

ripe wedge
#

it was prolly someone else who through the parts together and he had to just make do

night storm
#

Yea probably

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I7 10700k and 3080 pretty similar build

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But I’m me and he’s he so I did it better.

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Really nice case and made in the USA is a plus

junior crescent
ripe wedge
#

for sure

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editing will be fine but ryzen is a bit better for streaming/editing

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processor

junior crescent
#

which Ryzen processor tho

ripe wedge
#

well thats the thing

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Ryzen zen 3 gets announced Oct 8th

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next gen ryzen

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so I cant really recommend ryzen 3000 until ryzen 5000 or whatever they are calling it is released

little osprey
#

What's a good place holder graphics card for this build?

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It will be there until I get enough money for the 3080

ripe wedge
#

because ryzen 3000 prices will go down but it with your current budget id say it would be best to wait for ryzen 5000

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@little osprey how long until you think you can afford a 3080

little osprey
#

Uh I get an allowance of $80 a month

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So about 8-9 months if I don't spend that much

ripe wedge
#

how much do you have to buy all the parts

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right now

little osprey
#

About $800

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But I'm still saving

ripe wedge
#

id honestly say wait another month or two

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cuz ryzen 5000 (Zen 3)

little osprey
#

Ight

ripe wedge
#

then by that time you will have enough to buy a ryzen 5 5600 or whatever they are going to call it

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and a decent card

late stone
#

well

little osprey
#

Ye

late stone
#

wouldn’t you have to wait for motherboard bios revisions? or am i being silly

ripe wedge
#

they usually push those updates fairly quickly

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so you would have to update the bios

late stone
#

i reckon yea

ripe wedge
#

im sure board partners get chips quicker than anyone else

late stone
#

oh for sure

ripe wedge
#

cuz almost immediately after announcement reviewers will get their hands on the chips

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usually

late stone
#

i can’t believe i bought an x570 board for my first build because everyone was out of b450 peepoSadSip

ripe wedge
#

I mean like they get them before launch

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X570 is good

late stone
#

yes

ripe wedge
#

it supports zen 3

late stone
#

but wasn’t for me at the time

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i had no use for it

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i believe i spent like $209 on the board

ripe wedge
#

then the 3700x is a place holder for zen 3 for now I guess

night storm
#

Why not get the EVGA and utilize the step up program

late stone
#

i have 1650s right now

night storm
#

By the time you get to the top of step up program you will probably have saved up the difference

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Instead of wasting money. The amount you pay for the card goes towards the upgrade and you only pay the difference

ripe wedge
#

true I just chose the gigabyte one cuz they make good coolers

late stone
#

i like the tuf gaming variant but i have the msi gaming x 1650s

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evga step up program is good though

night storm
#

Only way that makes sense if you plan on upgrading to a 3080 to not just waste money

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But you do you

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You can take up to 90 days to sign up to the program and then you still have to wait till you get to bottom. And upgrading from 2070 super to 3080 will be about 200$ if your saving your allowance that’s more than enough time

hazy ridge
#

so i got my pc built but the top fan dosent work. halp

rustic sandal
#

@hazy ridge what top fan

hazy ridge
#

that one

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@rustic sandal

rustic sandal
#

is it just a fan header plugin? it should work if you just have it on the right header on the mobo, check if it’s 12v or 5v as well

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should say on the fan

hazy ridge
#

its 12 v

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and ya its a 3 pin plugin

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and i dont have any more headers

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@rustic sandal

rustic sandal
#

Then you’ll need a splitter

hazy ridge
#

can you link me a fan hub or splitter please???

#

cad

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canada

little osprey
#

-p union dixie

little osprey
#

@hazy ridge you might be able to Google maps "local computer hardware" and find a locally owned shop. Usually cheaper that way
That's how I got half my stuff for cheap

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@hazy ridge wait why do you need a fan when you're from Canada ?

fresh plinth
#

after i installed windows 10 on my new pc with a usb would i be able to wipe the usb and use it for other things?

little leaf
#

yes

umbral portal
#

Alright so today I got a EvGA 500w bronze rated power supply and it came ineffective anyone recommend any better power supplies

little leaf
#

budget?

umbral portal
#

I’m doing my first build so around $90

umbral portal
#

Thanks šŸ’Æ

little leaf
#

can I see the main list?

umbral portal
#

Yessir

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Unfortunately i can’t use Ethernet my router is across my house šŸ˜”

little osprey
#

What's the total price?

umbral portal
#

Around $1100 I have most of my parts just need my mobo and graphics card

little osprey
#

Nice nice

umbral portal
#

Yeah I’m building it to play with my cousin he switched to pc I’m just trying to make the move as well

little osprey
#

Oh is see

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Yea I'm deciding to move to pc as well instead of new console

umbral portal
#

Yeah i was originally gonna get the new Xbox but switching to pc made more sense to me

little osprey
#

It's just that i went a lil over the top on my build so it's gonna take me a long time to get it šŸ˜‚

umbral portal
#

Yeah what’s your build looking like?

little osprey
#

Lemme find it

umbral portal
#

Damn that’s one beefy boi

little osprey
#

Yep

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Had to go wifi as well since router in other room :(

umbral portal
#

I was originally gonna go for a 2k build but realized I was gonna use it for gaming

little osprey
#

I see yea lol

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And with me my parents aren't just gonna let me use it for gaming šŸ˜‚, that pc right there is gaming,work,school and multi purpose pc

umbral portal
#

Yeah I’m trying to put mine in the middle of school and gaming šŸ˜‚

little osprey
#

Dude fr lmao

umbral portal
#

I’m just gonna grind Val and some other games on it

little osprey
#

Yea and me I'ma go back to my childhood a bit

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We had an old sell desktop back in like 2009 and i used to play the original plants vs zombies

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Polar bowler and bus driver

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And obviously newer titles like r6s, and other games

umbral portal
#

YOO PvZ I love that game

little osprey
#

Fr i used to grind it like crazy when i was like 4 or 5 šŸ˜‚

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The original the best tho 🚫🧢

umbral portal
#

True I never beat the game ima beat it once I get my pc

little osprey
#

$5 on steam

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For the original one

umbral portal
#

Hell yeah what a bargain

little osprey
#

Save it lol

umbral portal
#

Hell yeah thanksšŸ’Æ

little osprey
#

Yea, Christmas is right around the corner and my birthday is like 2 weeks after so I'll ask for my mobo,ram, storage,and case

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And no problem

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And save for my psu,3080, and processor

umbral portal
#

Nice I’ve been saving for about 2 months now I think I should have it by the end of this month or the beginning of the next

little osprey
#

Nice make sure to send pics

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That case looks clean asf

umbral portal
#

Of course it will be my first build also so I’m pretty excited

little osprey
#

Same

#

Do you think i should upgrade from the micro atx mobo to an atx? Or should i be fine with the micro

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My case is atx

umbral portal
#

You should be fine with a micro but I like a full atx makes it seem cleaner for me ya know

little osprey
#

Ye

marsh adder
#

I'm getting a pretty noticeable 50Hz hum coming from my PC (not the speakers). I'm in Europe, where AC is 50Hz. Is there any way I could try to minimize this?
I'm not sure where it's coming from, but the PSU does already have some pretty bad coil whine so I'm keeping it as a prime suspect.
Problem is, I don't have any other PSUs I could test and this one is way out of warranty + purchased in the US.

umbral portal
#

Not sure šŸ˜Ž

little osprey
#

@marsh adder I'm not to sure about that one, if no one answers your question is suggest asking tomorrow

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Sorry for the inconvenience

marsh adder
#

It's been a day for me lol

little osprey
#

Lol i bet

#

Good luck hope you figure it out šŸ’Æ

#

What's difference between x570 and x470?

marsh adder
#

ty :)

little osprey
#

Well I'm not sure if I should upgrade to x570 or x470

little osprey
#

In order of upgrade

  1. psu 2) case 3) mobo 4) cpu 5) gpu
little leaf
#

@little osprey not good

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3800x terrible

little osprey
#

Well I'm trying to stick the the asus theme

little leaf
#

Bad

#

Dog

little osprey
#

Ahh

little leaf
#

The list in total is not good

little osprey
#

What cpu would you recommend?

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Also I already have radeon software and asus software so those two aren't changing

little leaf
#

What coh you have now

little osprey
#

5 3600

little leaf
#

Keep that

little osprey
#

And I don't mean this as in this week or even possibly this month for cpu

#

But everything else will be by then end of the year

#

Most psu, case, and mobo

foggy hazel
#

@little osprey from what i remember of your system. Just use your system and forget about upgrading for now

little leaf
#

Why do you need a new cpu

little osprey
#

Again, future if needed

foggy hazel
#

worry about that IN the future

#

not now

little osprey
#

@foggy hazel mostly looking to change to an easier case for cable management, and my mobo is having issues with reading RAM cards

#

So looking at changing those two atleast by late December

foggy hazel
#

warranty is a thing

little osprey
#

I guess

#

Still bigger easier case for cable management

foggy hazel
#

you are not pulling parts in and out a million times

little osprey
#

I hate having to reach in between cords to get to my ram cards

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And actually I am

foggy hazel
#

so what if it takes you an extra hour to fix things the ONE time you will be doing it

little osprey
#

Well my ram cards atleast

#

I have to do it every time my pc shuts off or restarts

foggy hazel
#

yes, because your parts are DEFECTIVE

#

as i said, warranty is a thing

#

IF you dont want to fix things, there is nothing i can say that will help.

little osprey
#

Plus didn't you say I should replace the thermaltake sometime soon?

foggy hazel
#

i suggested that your choice is PSU was doubtful

little osprey
#

Yeah, many people told me it usually end up failing early or immediately

foggy hazel
#

but, you have honestly been all over the place with the parts you have talked about.

little osprey
#

True

#

But this is basically it for me

#

My final decision

#

A lot of my back and forth recently was due to availability really.

#

I'm buying local since it's usually cheaper, and in my cases, it has been

foggy hazel
#

@junior crescent whichever is at the higher end of the consumer lines from either intel or amd

little osprey
#

Were any of you guys able to buy a 30 series card, if so how long did it take to ship?

languid nimbus
#

@little osprey ordered mine oct 2, delivering dec 9

covert isle
#

Yo

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Lemme know about what yall think! I wanna hear other peoples thoughts on it

analog hearth
#

Lost me at the case

covert isle
#

As i said my very first PC build lol i wasnt going for crazy looks

#

I didnt know what to do with the graphics card wire so i put it going up to help with GPU sag

raw cradle
#

sana all

strange basin
#

is there much diffrence between UMA Gpu and HD Gpu and if yes whats better?

outer heart
#

how’s this

little osprey
#

CL18 memory?

analog pulsar
austere wren
#

go brrrrrr

stoic island
#

@strange basin UMA and HD???

#

what are they?

#

@outer heart gpu overpriced atm

#

why do you need 32gb of ram?

strange basin
#

@strange basin UMA and HD???
Graphics card

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Hd=intergrated

#

and UMA something similar

stoic island
#

???

#

Can you tell me the specifics?

#

Never heard of them

#

@strange basin first, integrated means it isn't a graphics card, second, maybe you mean like intel UHD 620, I don't know of HD, and I can't even think of anything that resembles UMA?

strange basin
#

What is UMA graphic?

Unlike discrete graphics which have dedicated video memory on the card, systems with integrated graphics are based on Unified Memory Architecture (UMA) technology, which means a portion of the system memory is shared with the integrated graphics controller.

stoic island
#

I'm 80% sure most iGPUs just use system ram

#

sooo

#

what specific models are you looking at?

#

if it's just an architecture

viral ore
#

all iGPUs use system memory

#

UMA is the technology behind sharing system memory with another memory contriller

stoic island
#

I don't want to say all because I know there are really weird iGPUs out there

#

like vega on intel

viral ore
#

an iGPU is only an iGPU if its on the same monolithic die as the cpu

#

at least imo

stoic island
#

I mean, I consider if it's on the CPU, it's an iGPU

#

wouldn't AMD not have iGPUs under that logic?

viral ore
#

those are called APUs

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not CPUs

stoic island
#

I still call them iGPUs for the graphics processing unit

#

Like would you call vega 11 an iGPU or an APU?

viral ore
#

i mean, i would call it an iGPU

stoic island
#

it's just less confusing that way imo

viral ore
#

yeah i guess

#

but i think the only iGPU that doesnt use system memory are the 5 intel cpus with vega onboard

stoic island
#

@strange basin so anyways, what are the specific models you are looking at for comparison?

viral ore
#

they have an HMB stack

#

other than that, i cant think of any others

stoic island
#

doesn't HMB use system ram anyways?

viral ore
#

high bandwidth memory and host memory bus are two very different things

#

oops

#

its HBM

#

kek

stoic island
#

lol

#

I was really confused with HMB on iGPU

viral ore
#

i was trying to figure out why the acronym resulted in an incoherent statement

stoic island
#

HBM stack sounds fun

viral ore
#

its literally the best, its just still slower than ddr

stoic island
#

HBM2 for Radeon VII

viral ore
#

but not by much

stoic island
#

welll

#

gddr6x beats it on 3090 iirc

#

barely

#

in bandwidth

viral ore
#

i feel like HBM should just become commonplace in gpus in the future, it would be one less thing to worry about cooling

#

for waterblock and heatsink design

stoic island
#

hm

#

I was tryna find a source for the "gddr6x beats hbm2", can't find anything so might be wrong

#

but apparently HBM2 is much more expensive

oblique stream
#

Is Intel or Ryzen CPU's better for gaming?

small osprey
#

intel is better for gaming

#

usually

#

but i would still recommend ryzen

oblique stream
#

I have a ryzen 7 2700x and i want to upgrade but im stumped on what will give me the best performance

#

Im new to pc gaming so im wanting the best combo for the 3080 when i get my hands on one

little osprey
#

What's going on

whole stag
#

Zen 3 is coming up very soon

lucid walrus
#

Which motherboard series should I go w between the b550 or the x570

#

?

small osprey
#

no one rly needs x570

#

b550 is cheaper

stoic island
#

@lucid walrus what do you need it to do?

#

there's a 95% chance you'll get better value from a b550 board, but what do we know about you?

lucid walrus
#

Just some basic overclocking

stoic island
#

I mean in terms of IO and such

#

the chipset themselves mean NOTHING for overclocking

#

that's all dependent on a model

lucid walrus
#

Ok

stoic island
#

like a great B550 board can easily better overclock than a crappy x570 board

small osprey
wary geode
#

thats great @small osprey why no 1440 240 or 1080 240

small osprey
#

idk i dont think i need it

#

the 1080 is for stuff like discord

#

144hz is for my games

night iron
#

Never seen that case design before. Where did you find that weird case? @granite imp

granite imp
#

Never seen that case design before. Where did you find that weird case? @granite imp
@night iron pulled the pic from Twitter. I’d assume it’s fully custom

night iron
#

Okay thanks for the answer @granite imp

granite imp
#

I meant Reddit

#

Not Twitter

#

Lol

glacial sand
#

Which component do you guys usually like to start with when it comes to a new build? Guessing GPU or CPU first?

granite imp
stoic island
#

@glacial sand start with buying?

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or like

#

start with building

#

when you're building, it's motherboard on the table, cpu, ram, ssd in first

glacial sand
#

Buying I'd say

stoic island
#

Buy everything at the same time

#

Don't buy bit by bit over a month or months

glacial sand
#

Ah ok, because I wanted to buy bits of it at a time since my budget doesn't allow me to purchase all at once.

granite imp
#

So do this

glacial sand
#

Ah good call cause things change fast huh

granite imp
#

When you have the money to buy a component, set that same amount aside, as if you bought it

#

Then once you’ve saved enough, buy it all at once and you may be able to find better deals

#

Also you may have something planned

glacial sand
#

Amazing info guys much appreciated

granite imp
#

And by the time you go to buy them stuff may be out of stock

#

And throw a wrench in your gears

#

I know at Microcenter you get $20 off when you pair a mobo and cpu

glacial sand
#

Amazing

granite imp
#

I’m going Thursday

#

Lol

glacial sand
#

Is your 2600x 2060 super reference to your cpu and GPU?

foggy hazel
#

yes, that is the case for him @glacial sand

polar prism
#

@granite imp love the build btw

glacial sand
#

My coworker swears by the 3600x and tells me if you have less than 1650 GTX you will not enjoy upcoming games

granite imp
#

@granite imp love the build btw
@polar prism not mine, pulled from Reddit pcmr

polar prism
#

It depends. The 1070 and 1080 cards are still usable but they’re getting slower now

#

Ohhh okay. Still a cool build tho

granite imp
polar prism
#

Also a 1080 would be slightly cheaper or the same price as a 1660 or 2060

glacial sand
#

I really want ray tracing in my new rig so won't be going lower than RTX cards

granite imp
#

I played Minecraft with ray tracing for like 10 min

#

That was my extent of it

polar prism
#

How much do you have for a gpu

glacial sand
#

Right now I have 1000 in mind for a new pc

polar prism
#

Then you should probably go for a 2060 super if you want RTX

#

Unless the 2070s drop in price after the 3070 comes

glacial sand
#

True, what's the big hype about the founders edition?

#

@granite imp @stoic island @polar prism cheers mates

polar prism
#

The founders edition looks good and finally has some good thermals. Not as good as the custom cards but they’re usable now

granite imp
#

True, what's the big hype about the founders edition?
@glacial sand better performance than 2080ti at a fraction of the cost

stoic island
#

I'm back

granite imp
#

If you’re lucky enough to get one

stoic island
#

@glacial sand just come back again when you're set on how much you want to spend and when you want to spend it.

#

and also, the hype isn't about the "founders edition" model of the card, the hype is more about the GPU itself, the RTX 3070 GPU can perform better than the 2080ti at a fraction of the cost

#

And that applies to practically all AIB models of the GPUs

granite imp
#

Just ask 10 people for a dollar every day, and in 3 months you’ll have enough

foggy hazel
#

@stoic island some of the hype is ALSO about the FE (founders edition) cooler.

little osprey
#

Is it me or the rtx 3000 Msi gaming x trio looks way uglier than the rtx 2000 gaming x trio

stoic island
#

It's mainly on the 3070, since the hype for the 3080 and 3090 FE has been realized and seen with the good thermals

little osprey
#

The 2000 gaming x trio looks way nicer imo

polar prism
#

Good thermals. Still worse than AIBs tho

stoic island
#

worse than some

#

depends on the specific card

#

but it's definitely a step up from before

polar prism
#

Even the Zotac is nearly 10c cooler

stoic island
#

is it?

#

Haven't had time to look at the major AIB thermal testing yet

#

@little osprey imo new looks soo much better, it's actually symmetrical now

#

it looks a lot like the duke oc on the 1080ti and 2070 now

#

3 symmetrical fans

#

instead of gaming x on the 2080ti having 1 fan dif size

little osprey
#

Yeah but most people don’t see it unless it’s a vertical mount

polar prism
#

I don’t like some of the 30 series cards, but most are good

little osprey
#

The side looks much nicer

stoic island
#

we're talking about dif parts of the card then

#

idrc about side looks

#

it's just there

little osprey
#

Yeah but that’s what most people see

stoic island
#

mhm, it's what I believe

little osprey
#

Evga for once did an amazing job on their card design

#

Which is a shocker because their cards are usually pretty ugly

stoic island
#

I mean

#

there's been controversy with people hating the new ftw3

little osprey
#

What’s the controversy

polar prism
#

I really like it. It grew on me

little osprey
#

Yeah

polar prism
#

Totally different than before

little osprey
#

Usually their cards have little to no rgb

#

They did something new this time

stoic island
#

not really controversy but people hate the red accent

polar prism
#

The red edges aren’t too bad IMO

stoic island
#

some people

viral ore
#

set the rgb to solid red, and the card would look sick in a black and red themed build

little osprey
#

Yeah I have no idea why card manufacturers have to make accents

polar prism
#

@viral ore that’s what I might do when I get mine

little osprey
#

But in the end most@people won’t even see it because the side panels are tinted

#

The msi rtx 2080 trio has a red accent I cannot see

polar prism
#

Also they are going to have covers or replacements for them

viral ore
#

i hate tinted side panels

#

what a waste

little osprey
#

The nzxt h510 series has it

polar prism
#

I don’t have nice cables so it’s nice to hide them

little osprey
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Not that much but just a bit

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Enough to hide the red accents on my msi card

polar prism
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I mean they’re stock Corsair RMx cables but still

viral ore
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im happy my case is not tinted at all, its nice

polar prism
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I’ll have mine done tonight

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Gpu and ram come in the next few hours

little osprey
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I’m happy that I bought the rtx 2080s in July instead of waiting tbh

polar prism
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Everything’s put together outside of the case so I just have to put the ram in and mount the gpu to test, then put it in the case

little osprey
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Otherwise@id be waiting months more due to lack of stock

polar prism
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Yeah I picked up a 2070 super

little osprey
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Which is what I predicted

stoic island
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yea july was fine

little osprey
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Everyone at the time told me it was around the corner but I really didn’t care

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Not tryna wait 6 more months

polar prism
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The 2070 and up will be good for the next 2-3 years

stoic island
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I only really started recommending people grab new GPUs in sept. because I didn't think about stock

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@polar prism but I want a new card to replace my 2070 :(

little osprey
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I’ll wait for the rtx 5000 lol

polar prism
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I mean you can prob get one by January or after

little osprey
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The 3080 still cannot pull off 1080p 144fps with all ultra settings and ray tracing with max dxt reflections on

polar prism
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Well

little osprey
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On all games

polar prism
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1080 is cpu intensive it’s not on the gpu for that

little osprey
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Wdym 1080

polar prism
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1080p

little osprey
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I have a ryzen 9 3900x and 64gb ram lol

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It’s an editing pc but I play games time to time

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My cpu never reaches 100% on games

polar prism
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Yes. I’m just saying the 3080 can’t improve 1080p FPS that much

little osprey
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Yeah I just want 144hz gaming with all max settjngs and ray teacing on all games

polar prism
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If you look at benchmarks, when the gpu is pushed from 1080p to 1440p it performs better

little osprey
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Once the hardware comes out for@it@I’ll buy it

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Also can’t you just increase render wuality to make it like 1440p

polar prism
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I’m not sure if you can with a 1080p monitor but if you can then I think that would help

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I have 1440p so I’m not sure on that

little osprey
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Well regardless no resolution can do full 144hz gaming at all max settings

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So I really don’t care if the rtx 2080s has 80fps and the 3080 has 100-110 on games

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I’ll upgrade when I can do full 144hz

polar prism
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Well you’re realistic. Not saying it’s a bad thing, but a lot of people aren’t and they want the 30-40 FPS boost

little osprey
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Yeah

polar prism
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Even though it won’t make a massive difference in all honesty. Although the 30 series is very good at 4K

little osprey
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I care more about FPS than resolution

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Other people have other opinions

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But I’m just an fps person

polar prism
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Same. I think 1440p is perfect. 4K is too much IMO

little osprey
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1080p is just fine for me and I prefer is over 4K 60fps

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I might upgrade to 1440p in the future but it’s an expensive upgrade considering my ocd would make me get all the new monitors to be the same model

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But right now no hardware supports full 1440p 144hz max settings ray tracing

polar prism
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Fair point. I have one 32ā€ dell. I like it a lot

little osprey
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Yeah 32ā€ needs 1440p

polar prism
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Well 100+ FPS with ray tracing on is still good

little osprey
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I have a 27 inch 1080p 144hz and I’m totally fine with it

foggy hazel
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@little osprey plenty of hardware supports it, but nothing can run it at that specified rate <- is probably the more correct way to phrase it :)

little osprey
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Not every game can push 144hz full max dxr ray racing at full quality

foggy hazel
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again, that is about the performance, not the "support" :)

little osprey
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Wdym

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Ah yeah my bad

foggy hazel
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:)

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minor detail, but it can give the wrong idea about it :)

little osprey
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Yeah wrong words

foggy hazel
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for the builders that might be lurking.

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walmart has a weird offer at the moment

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and no, that one is not on pcpp, but 270 usd for the 3700x is a fair deal :)

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@stoic island see above :)

polar prism
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@foggy hazel glad I bought mine last week steveconfused

foggy hazel
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that is how it always goes :)

granite imp
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I mean I guess I’ll update my cpu

polar prism
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Indeed. I finally bought everything after I watched J2C video where he said if you’re always waiting for a deal or the next best thing you’ll never get anything

stoic island
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Haii

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Aight

fresh plinth
little leaf
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@fresh plinth I made ;you a list already

foggy hazel
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@little leaf side note: you see the walmart link above?

little leaf
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ah

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thats a good deal

foggy hazel
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aye

fresh plinth
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ah sorry i didnt realize that thanks

little leaf
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Maybe I will get a 3700x

granite imp
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Maybe I will get a 3700x
@little leaf we all should

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walmart has a weird offer at the moment
@foggy hazel share in #tech-deals

ripe wedge
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hey I was still reading that

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lol

balmy patio
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same

foggy hazel
polar prism
foggy hazel
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well done :)

polar prism
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Now I have to figure out how to change the memory speed lol

stoic island
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:D

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Xmp isn't too hard

polar prism
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I appreciate everyone who helped me with the parts and all my questions

whole stag
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Should i just get a lian li lancool ii mesh tired of waiting for p500a :/

cloud oasis
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My old pc had 1 fan

granite imp
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@polar prism is that rgb amd cooler a stock cooler or after market? šŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤”

polar prism
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Stock for the Ryzen 7 3700x

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its the wrath prism

granite imp
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Ohhhhh

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Fancy

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Rgb always better performance

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I’m jealous. Stock 2600x no flashy lights

hallow rock
clever oyster
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It’s good just replace the ssd with a wd sn750 500gb

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Also if you can wait for new stuff

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Ands announcing new processors on the 8th and new graphics cards on the 27th

hallow rock
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Oh alright thanks

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That was my first list so I was scared I'd have to change everything lol

frail forge
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great bluid

stoic island
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what about no

frail forge
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what do you guys think of this i was thinking of upgrading to this

stoic island
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why 1080p280hz

hallow rock
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Are you talking about my build or his?

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nvm

rustic sandal
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can anyone help me w a rgb cooler

marble timber
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Whats a good gpu that's around $220

rustic sandal
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used 1660 ti @marble timber or a new 1660/1660s

marble timber
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Where would I get one?

rustic sandal
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Used or new?

marble timber
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Both

rustic sandal
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Reddit (r/hardwareswap always has great deals and people who know why they’re talking about, OfferUp, Mercado, eBay (just don’t get scammed) but for new amazon or Newegg is your best option

marble timber
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Ok thank you!

rustic sandal
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Np!

rustic sandal
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Can anyone help me

elder aurora
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pp

wheat summit
languid nimbus
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That’s awesome

fresh plinth
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that wall art is sick you gotta post a link if you have it

little osprey
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im helping my friend with pc parts list, and I was wondering if a ryzen 7 3700x and a 3070 will work fine together

polar prism
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Yes

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A 2070 or higher will be good with the 3700x

little osprey
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so a ryzen 7 3700x wont bottle neck the 3070

polar prism
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R5 3600 might be a good choice too depending on what the benchmarks show. And no a 3700x will not bottleneck a 3070

little osprey
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ok

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thank you

prisma stag
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yo wtf

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i just loaded modern warfare

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and i saw shapes and shi

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and the world wasnt fully loaded

little osprey
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a ryzen 7 3700x will work fine with a b450 tomahawk max right?

polar prism
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Probably but I would say b550 would be a better move. Pcie 4 on it

stoic island
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B550 good

ripe wedge
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b550 would be a better choice because then with a bios update you could upgrade later to a Zen 3 chip

stoic island
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pcie 4.0 main point

ripe wedge
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^

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pcie 4.0 for gpus rn isnt a big deal

stoic island
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but future proof

ripe wedge
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but for m.2s they are pretty good