building-and-recc-chat

[stoic island]

I'll tell you why I don't like them :p
Ram is fine, I wasn't paying attention to pricing

[wide estuary]

Should i just go with the build you did but change the psu?

[stoic island]

I think it'll be useful for both of us to go over reasoning behind stuff :)

[wide estuary]

Wanna talk it to a dm lol

[stoic island]

If you really want to sure but this works

[wide estuary]

Either way. I’ll let you eat and we’ll run through everything lol

[stoic island]

Dinner isn't very good but what other choice do I have :(

[wide estuary]

😂 better than starving

[stoic island]

It's interesting at least

[wide estuary]

Chicken and rice

[stoic island]

*pork

You starting to see the interestingness of it?

[wide estuary]

Aye 😂😂😂😂

[lean rapids]

can someone give me feedback on this im new to building pc's
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/

[stoic island]

@lean rapids send this link

@wide estuary I'm bak

[lean rapids]

alr

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/7w74tp

[wide estuary]

Sweet. I think dm will be better as it might get confusing

[stoic island]

sure

@lean rapids Starting from the top, CPU cooler is unnecessary most of the time, stock does fine. Best to get 3600mhzc16 ram is budget allows. A400 is a crap SSD, grab something like a vulcan if you want 2.5in, and a team MP34 for m.2. Barracuda compute 2tb is just a bit more than that 1tb drive. GPU is decent ig, could be better. You can save money with cheaper case and fans.

[lean rapids]

ok thanks for the feedback

[late pilot]

what is the benefit of a tinted side panel?

[prisma stag]

Do 3 pack fans come with nuts for part of the case that is not threaded?

[desert gulch]

There is no need for nuts

The screws for the fans thread into the fan frame

[cursive wharf]

To be more specific, screws are self tapping screws that tap the fan frame

[desert gulch]

Exactly

[warm badge]

my rig was a 1k rig

aside from windows

[little leaf]

So like 1.05k

I think that’s close enough to just say 1k

[shell wind]

can someone suggest a monitor abot 24 in for me

[stoic island]

What res, budget, and refresh rate

[shell wind]

budget 250

at least 144 hz

and preferable under 3 ms

[stoic island]

??

under 3hzz?

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824737012

all I gotta say is

take that last requirement off for your own good :P

[balmy patio]

https://www.newegg.com/black-asus-vg248qg-90lmgg901q022eul-24/p/N82E16824236978?Item=N82E16824236978

[shell wind]

lol

[balmy patio]

that could also work for you

[little leaf]

For 250 you can get 1440p

[shell wind]

above 24 in

at least 27

[stoic island]

usually around 280$ mark is where I start reccomending 1440p144hz

[shell wind]

above 24 in

[balmy patio]

what graphics card do you have?

i ask that because the monitor you choose can vary depending on if you want to take advantage of your card's capabilities

[stoic island]

iirc 2060s

can go either way

I'm leaning towards 1080p.

[shell wind]

2060 super

@balmy patio

or anyone

[stoic island]

1080p is fine

the monitor I linked above

[shell wind]

above 24 in

[stoic island]

why

[shell wind]

Cause i like bigger

[stoic island]

bigger does not mean better

stretching a 1080p panel from 24in to 27in makes it look bad pixel density wise

[balmy patio]

eh i mean it really depends what youre doing

[shell wind]

Y do u think streches out my screen

im gaming ussaly

[stoic island]

Yes

it looks bad

Think about it, 24 inch 1080p panel and 27 inch 1080p panel both have the same amount of pixels

all the pixels are spread out evenly

so on the 27in monitor, 1080p has to be stretched out more

[shell wind]

can i get one with more pixes

[stoic island]

making the pixels more aparent

Yes, but it's going to be harder for the 2060s to run

I personally believe the sweet spot for switching from 1080p to 1440p to be a 2070 super.

Here's a 27in 1440p monitor for reference for pricing if you're curious :
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824737008

[shell wind]

2 inces in over 100 $$ more

3 in

[stoic island]

don't think about it that way

think about it as a ton more pixels in a completely different panel

2560x1440 is kind of a lot more than 1920x1080

[shell wind]

Do i need a 2070 super?

[stoic island]

no

[shell wind]

for that

[stoic island]

I mark 2070s as a good point to run everything well on 1440p. 2060s works but don't expect 144fps ultra on aaa games.

[shell wind]

i have a 2060 super now

is it worth th e upgrade3

[stoic island]

no

[shell wind]

for the monitor

or the graphics card

[stoic island]

I say no to both.

[shell wind]

okay

bigger seems better tho @stoic island

[balmy patio]

and dont get fooled by the 24, it might look small but its about the perfect size if one of the only things youre going to do on it is play video games

[stoic island]

"seems"

[shell wind]

a tv is big

but a monitor is also big

[balmy patio]

well yeah, if you think about it, youre far away from a tv, so you cant really distinguish the pixels

on a smaller screen, more pixels is better because youre closer to it

[vital warren]

24inch monitor is great

[shell wind]

But what if i get more pixels

[balmy patio]

then itll look better

here lemme ask you a question @shell wind , you know the game minecraft, right?

[late pilot]

Do you recommend a seasonic FOCUS gx 550 or 650 for a rtx 2060 and r5 3600?

[austere wren]

mmm

id go with a 650

[late pilot]

20 bucks more

[austere wren]

is it a super tight budget?

[stoic island]

I say 550w works

650w for future proofing

[calm crypt]

^

[austere wren]

^

[near crag]

Hey is there a place or site I can go to to get a price check on my current build? I'm looking to sell it but I don't know what's a reasonable price. Would I just add up all the parts individually and subtract x amount because it's used or is there an easier way?

[prisma stag]

o my god

just unboxed my power supply and boyyyy is this intimidating

so many cables

i think imma watch a how to video lol

quick question

my motherboard has cpu power 8 piun and cpu pwer 2 4 pin

do i need both those plugged in?

[prime anchor]

hey

[stoic island]

@prisma stag second 4 pin is 99% of the time optional :)

and also, all of them should be labeled

and most of them only go in 1 way.

[prisma stag]

do i have to plug in all the pci cables?

[stoic island]

On the GPU yes.

[trail ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3x6px6

any recommendations?

[prisma stag]

mr111

[stoic island]

yas

[prisma stag]

i just got her put in

the only thing i dont have installed is the gpu and the storage, can i turn her on to make sure the fans spin?

[stoic island]

@trail ravine might want to consider 3600c16 ram, otherwise fine

there's no reason to

[prisma stag]

ok

[stoic island]

no purpose behind it

[prisma stag]

true

just wanted to make sure i had it plugged up right

but u think i should wait till its all done?

[stoic island]

I mean, that's a really simple quick check that you'd have to do anyways if you needed to troubleshoot later

no real reason to do it now imo

[prisma stag]

ok

ill wait

i dont want any reason to mess this up

ill be patient haha

[stoic island]

you can do it if you want, just no reason to, it's a no upside no downside just a waste of your time kinda thing

[prisma stag]

ok i flipped it on

no fans spun

[stoic island]

yay fun plug checking time

wait you have a CPU in right

[prisma stag]

yes

[stoic island]

because I think it just doesn't do anything if no cpu/ram

anyways

cable checking time

[prisma stag]

woot woot

lol

maybe it needs cpu power 1 and cpu power 2 ?

[stoic island]

no

it does not

I'm telling ya

[prisma stag]

ok awesome

[stoic island]

the 8 pin is enough

[prisma stag]

imma check all my fan connections

wait

i dont even hear the cpu fan

psu*

[stoic island]

lol is the switch on the back turned on

[prisma stag]

yes

yea i rechecked everything

everything is plugged in

wait

dude

[still roost]

ↇ͋͋͌ ﭑṏℛ͖͖͚[i9-10900k ~ 2080ti]#6735 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[prisma stag]

im so dumb

i need to push power button on case dont i

yeap

im an idiot

[balmy patio]

nice build

[prisma stag]

Thank you, only thing i havent put in yet is the gpu

[balmy patio]

nice

[prisma stag]

o and a BUNCH of cable managment lololol

i dread doing this cable management

[balmy patio]

haha

are aio's reliable?

[prisma stag]

yes but there are cheaper and near as effective air coolers

[balmy patio]

yeah, thats what ive been hearing recently

although they sure look cool

[prisma stag]

yea my next build will be with just a noctua

[balmy patio]

nice

[prisma stag]

do u got a build or are u bout to build?

[balmy patio]

im planning to build one

[prisma stag]

awesome , there are plenty of routes u can go

[balmy patio]

yeah, well so far im doubting if i should stick with the amd stock cooler or go with something else (i dont plan on overclocking)

[prisma stag]

what cpu

[balmy patio]

a 2600x

[prisma stag]

Nice

i dont know much about those stock coolers

id hate to give u missinformation

[balmy patio]

nah man its fine dw

[granite imp]

Cpu temp holding steady at 65° after 5 minutes of prime95 small fft stress test. Is that a good temp? All air cooled.

[prisma lynx]

Ok guys, I finished building my pc and it turned on, and all the lights and stuff was on, but then it turned back off, I'm pretty sure it's because when I clicked the power button, it did not come back up. My question is, does anyone know how to fix a un stuck power button?

[junior crescent]

Would this be a good streaming/Gaming setup and pc??? https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/jDTryk

[potent prairie]

PSU is not good

SSD is decent, but not amazing

Also, don't waste your budget on a retail copy of windows... get one off ebay for $5

Here: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/kq2ryk

@junior crescent It's slightly overbudget and I'd wait for 3060... but: better RAM, GPU, Mobo, SSD, and PSU

[solar thicket]

@junior crescent hey, wait until the new steel series apex keyboard comes out. It’s only like 10 dollars more, and truly mechanical.

@junior crescent yeah, the apex 5. And my mistake, it’s already being sold on amazon.

[floral flare]

@junior crescent It's slightly overbudget and I'd wait for 3060... but: better RAM, GPU, Mobo, SSD, and PSU
@potent prairie looks cool, but wait for the 3070

[potent prairie]

Yep. Or 3060, as he is already a little over what he originally had

[floral flare]

yes, let's just wait

the first 3080 have some issue

[minor lynx]

what 3000 series gpu for i5-9400f?

[fluid raven]

3060 Ti

nah but fr up to 3080 should be fine, the "ssd reading" technology is supposed to help with cpu perf anyway

[languid adder]

Do u know if An Intel Core I7 6700 @3.40 GHz Cpu and Acer Aspire T3-710 Motherboard (Prebuilt) Handle a 1650 super

[stoic island]

@languid adder why not

The motherboard isn't an issue, as long as it has a PCIe 16x or 8x slot.

The PCIe standard itself forces it to be able to support 75w

[earnest ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T6vq6R

could i get someones opinion

[stoic island]

@earnest ravine why so little storage

[earnest ravine]

im little amount of storage because im getting this @stoic island https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TKFEE8K?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[stoic island]

Why not a mp34

It's 2$ more than a p2

[autumn wolf]

also why a 4tb external hard drive?

and 32gb of ram

unless you do some heavy work and need to transfer stuff back and forth between places

[stoic island]

Statik do the thing

[languid nimbus]

White case with black components

[autumn wolf]

what thing

[earnest ravine]

lol i will change it right after im donw with class

[stoic island]

@languid nimbus it looks good still

:p

[languid nimbus]

I’m just used to seeing white case with white components but there’s not a white 3080 yet I think

It’ll still look pretty cool tho yeah

I like how those cases in particular look

[stoic island]

Yea there's nothing wrong with it :p

[stoic island]

All white is easy to get dirty and for things to stand out

[autumn wolf]

i still dont know what thing youre talking about, mr1111

[stoic island]

edit list is the thing

[languid nimbus]

that’s pretty clean though, I like the gray gradient fade

Unless it’s the light

[autumn wolf]

its the light

[languid nimbus]

Nvm prob dumb

Yep dumb

[stoic island]

@earnest ravine
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YbjBgJ

[earnest ravine]

thanks

but should i get 2 8gb sticks or 2 16gb

[autumn wolf]

im still questioning the 32gb ram

do you need 32gb?

[earnest ravine]

i play high definition games

[stoic island]

...?

if it's gaming, you don't need 32gb unless you're trying to run 8k

I thought you were editing or smth else

[autumn wolf]

is the system just for gaming or do you plan on using it for other things as well such as photography, videography, rendering, etc

[earnest ravine]

what about 4k

[stoic island]

4k should be fine with 16gb

[earnest ravine]

what about for streaming and recording

[autumn wolf]

16gb should be fine

[earnest ravine]

should i get more cores

or 8 is fine

[autumn wolf]

the cpu is fine for gaming

unless you want to encode using the cpu

[earnest ravine]

what about streaming

[autumn wolf]

which i wouldnt recommend on a single pc setup for recording and/or streaming

[earnest ravine]

ok

[autumn wolf]

nvidia has nvenc so you dont need a high core/thread cpu

[earnest ravine]

ok

thanks

i will go with 2 8gb

[autumn wolf]

this is my revision

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7jpzn7

[stoic island]

I left the barracuda out because planned 4tb external

and what's with the rgb fans :P

[autumn wolf]

i still dont see the need of that external unless they have it already or plan on using it for transfers between areas

and why not, might as well stick to the rgb theme and cooler master

[stoic island]

eh

I just don't do rgb

[autumn wolf]

could take them out if they want to save the 60

[stoic island]

@earnest ravine are you already going to be getting the external either way?

[earnest ravine]

no

[stoic island]

wait

HM???

[earnest ravine]

i was gonna change it

to internal

[stoic island]

what was the external for at first then?

[earnest ravine]

i did not know it was external i was not paying attetion

[stoic island]

ick

[autumn wolf]

actually

[stoic island]

then barracuda it is then

[autumn wolf]

since im gonna go devils advocate of no rgb with mr1111

gonna revise again

[stoic island]

:)

here's mine again
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ntnyb8

[autumn wolf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WC6pjp

me buying into my name

yeet dab

[stoic island]

hm the p12 pack is back in stock

[earnest ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JW4YPn changed the ram @stoic island

[stoic island]

no I was giving it to statik again for changes

not as an actual suggestion

[earnest ravine]

idk about the case i like the cooler master one @autumn wolf

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gfn8TW/cooler-master-masterbox-td500-mesh-white-w-controller-atx-mid-tower-case-mcb-d500d-wgnn-s01

[autumn wolf]

up to you ultimately since its your build and money, but a suggestion as im being biased with my name and also because its cheaper

[earnest ravine]

true

[autumn wolf]

and i was playing a bit of devils advocate of doing no rgb

[stoic island]

eh

td500 mesh stock with no extra fans is cheaper

[earnest ravine]

but the cooler master one comes wit rgb

[stoic island]

but p12s are just so good

:P

[autumn wolf]

i just realized the value between the 1 fan and the 5 pack

1 is $10.50 while the pack of 5 is $31

[stoic island]

@autumn wolf 10$ shipping on 5 pack

[autumn wolf]

oof

[earnest ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JW4YPn i think this is the one

[autumn wolf]

still decent value

[earnest ravine]

but idk about the storage i liked the p1

[stoic island]

no

p1 bad

mp34 so much better :P

speeeeeed

for just 3$

[earnest ravine]

ok i trust u

but should i get the five pack that @autumn wolf was talking about

[stoic island]

P1 is QLC rated for 2000/1700
MP34 is TLC rated for 3000/2600
Basically 50% more speeds :P

no

you just need 1 more on the td500 mesh

for rear exhaust

no need to fill every fan slot out

[earnest ravine]

ok

[stoic island]

4000d airflow doesn't come with fans I think so

[autumn wolf]

i had the 5pack because of the corsair case since it only came with 2 fans

[stoic island]

huh

welp you only need 1 extra rear exhaust on td500 mesh

[autumn wolf]

think the fans in the 4000d are worse than ml fans so the 5 pack wouldve been good to replace the 2 fans and whatever else you need

need foods now

[stoic island]

ah

bai

[warm badge]

can someone help again?

my mobo is not detecting my SSD

[stoic island]

in bios?

what motherboard what ssd

[warm badge]

it's m.2 SSD

[stoic island]

what exact motherboard and ssd

and which slot.

[warm badge]

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61VWJiLgfuL._AC_SL1024_.jpg

https://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll1280/20-250-092-V01.jpg

[stoic island]

Yea I see the issue

Use the second M.2 slot

1st is only NVMe, doesn't support SATA

[keen depot]

why are you getting that ssd anyway

[warm badge]

omg bro, that was such a pain to install

already got it

[keen depot]

oh you already got it

oof

[stoic island]

yea m.2 blue is a big rip

[warm badge]

I didnt know

[stoic island]

and sata m.2 drives lead to confusion like that :P

[keen depot]

its alright, we all make mistakes

[lyric thistle]

I'd only use a Blue SSD if you don't have access to an m.2/NVMe slot, which I don't, so I do have a Blue

[stoic island]

At least you didn't make as bad a choice I did with a team MS30 lmao

@lyric thistle yea 2.5in blue is pretty good, but m.2 blue is big rip

[warm badge]

whats bad about it, what am I gonna run into?

[lyric thistle]

It's still a good SSD, just not a good purchase

[polar prism]

What about the nvme sn550?

[warm badge]

oh

[stoic island]

nothing, it just takes place where you could've gotten much better performance at the same price same slot

@polar prism no

[polar prism]

Why

[stoic island]

dramless

bad

slow too

pricing also isn't usually good

at least grab a P1

[polar prism]

So other than being overpriced Samsung is okay as well as crucial?

[lyric thistle]

Don't worry too much about the Blue, it's still a good drive and you'll see a world of a difference from a hard drive with Windows/other OS installed on it

[stoic island]

@warm badge the critique here is "drive is good, but there are much better m.2 options for the price."

@polar prism all depends on model

[warm badge]

its working now, thanks

[stoic island]

You're welcome :)

[wheat coral]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x3ymvW
hey feel free to change it but is this a good pick of parts for a 250$ upgrade

cannot go over 250

feel free to ping me if you make anychanges at all

[pliant wren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TgWzn7 Rate my build?

[wheat coral]

oh god

[stoic island]

I rate it What the hell/10

[wheat coral]

same

the case isnt too bad tho

[calm crypt]

Athlon and gt 710???

[pliant wren]

Do you think i can run vr?

[wheat coral]

easily (please dont take that seriously)

[pliant wren]

I knew it (I am joking as well)

[calm crypt]

Lol

[strong radish]

What size ssd and hard drive for gaming do you guys recommend

[stoic island]

512gb NVMe SSD + 2tb Hard drive is a pretty common option to start off with

(MP34 512gb for 63$, Seagate Barracuda 2tb for 55$).

[strong radish]

I have a 4 year old 1 tb hard drive do you think it will break

[stoic island]

use crystal disk info on it

[strong radish]

What’s that

[stoic island]

good tool

https://crystalmark.info/en/software/crystaldiskinfo/

tells you about health of drive :)

[strong radish]

There’s vista and xp

Which one I download

Nvm

[stoic island]

vista installer

[strong radish]

Heath status is good

[stoic island]

Then it should be fine.

[strong radish]

Ok thanks

Do extra hard drives / ssds have require more power

[grim yew]

i just got a amd 3200g 4 core for $89.00

[strong radish]

@stoic island why nvme?

I’m kind of on a budget

[stoic island]

NVMe is barely more expensive than Sata nowadays

[strong radish]

10 dollars is the difference in 500 Gb

[stoic island]

for 500gb, it usually 53$ SATA Vulcan, 60$ NVMe P1, 63$ NVMe Mp34.

yea

it's getting very close

and M.2 is much faster, and much easier to install

[strong radish]

I found a western digital 500 gb for 58 dollars

[stoic island]

power consumption from drives is minimal

@strong radish M.2 does not mean NVMe.

[calm crypt]

Way to much @strong radish

[stoic island]

and not all SSDs were created equally

[lyric thistle]

Better not be WD Green

[calm crypt]

Get a seagate 1tb for around 50 bucks

[stoic island]

just gotta warn you about that bit first

@calm crypt Barracuda 2tb is 55$

[calm crypt]

Lol that’s what I meant

I’m on mobile

[stoic island]

is ok

[strong radish]

Send me best 500 Gb ssd

[stoic island]

"best" is quite loaded

I assume best price-to-performance?

[strong radish]

Do I have to have an enclosure

Yes

[stoic island]

I'll give you both the M.2 and 2.5in options

[strong radish]

Thx

[stoic island]

2.5in :
https://www.newegg.com/team-group-t-force-vulcan-500gb/p/N82E16820331321

M.2 :
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PHMJR4Y

[strong radish]

What about this one

https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-512GB-Gen3x4-SP512GBP34A60M28/dp/B07ZGJYLNL/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?dchild=1&keywords=500gb+ssd+m.+2&qid=1601397243&sr=8-9

[stoic island]

what about no

hmb.

[strong radish]

What

Why

[stoic island]

the reason is hmb

instead of dedicated dram

also slower (~2gb/s r/w instead of ~3gb/s r/w)

[strong radish]

What’s hmb xd

[stoic island]

dram, except uses system ram.

It's Dedicated Dram > HMB > No dram

just stay away from drives with no dram

[strong radish]

https://www.amazon.com/Blue-SN550-500GB-NVMe-Internal/dp/B07YFF3JCN/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=500gb+ssd+m.+2&qid=1601397353&sr=8-3

[stoic island]

HMB drives are usable but I won't recommend them

again, no dram

[strong radish]

Dang

[stoic island]

MP34 is the cheapest good drive with dram

there's a reason why I suggest it :P

[lyric thistle]

SN750 has DRAM

[stoic island]

sn750 usually chills at 70$

sales can bring it down but

[strong radish]

Guess I’m going with this one

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PHMJR4Y

[stoic island]

mp34 is my default suggestion

[strong radish]

Thanks for the help

[stoic island]

You're welcome

[strong radish]

Another question what ram should I get I have intel i5 9600k and I’m on a budget so no rgb

[stoic island]

What Motherboard

[strong radish]

Z390 h

[stoic island]

And do you already have those or

[strong radish]

Yeah

[little osprey]

what psu should I get? I have a 1650 super and intel i3 9100F, 16GB of ram 2666MHZ

[strong radish]

Use the psu calculator on PC part picker

[little osprey]

ah ok thanks

[stoic island]

this works :
https://www.newegg.com/geil-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820158823

[strong radish]

Ye

[little osprey]

wait what they have that holy

[strong radish]

Do they have a white version

I am getting A white pc case

[little osprey]

I COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT WINDOWS

[stoic island]

5$ ebay key

don't panic

[strong radish]

Why is Corsair ram so muchhhhh

[trail ravine]

lmao yea get a cheap key moon

[stoic island]

because

corsair bad :P

[trail ravine]

do not pay for a full key

[strong radish]

Overpriced man

[stoic island]

I linked a kit of ram above

[trail ravine]

corsair very overpriced

[stoic island]

but there's like no white ram lol

[little osprey]

wait where’s the psu calculator

[strong radish]

But willl it look good in my white pc case ahah

[stoic island]

I suggest you just give up on getting white ram at a decent price

[trail ravine]

g.skill ram better >:)

[stoic island]

It's still good

[strong radish]

Ok

I can get a black case

But I like the snowy theme

[stoic island]

@little osprey click on this thing

[strong radish]

It’s the td500 mesh

[stoic island]

td500 mesh is great

[strong radish]

I know

If the h500 was 100 I would get it

[little osprey]

ok ty

[stoic island]

anyways tis will do just fine for you @little osprey
https://www.newegg.com/evga-500-br-100-br-0500-k1-500w/p/N82E16817438145

@strong radish I love the industrial-ish look of the CM H500 lol

[little osprey]

oh I only have 246W

[strong radish]

Yeah

[little osprey]

lol

[strong radish]

Well I guess you really do have to give up aesthetics if your on a tight budget

[trail ravine]

^^

[little osprey]

yes

[trail ravine]

im making an itx build in the node 304

[little osprey]

once your over 1K$ you can add rgb

[trail ravine]

so i dont have to worry about rgb or anything

[stoic island]

I mean

<1k can fit in rgb pretty easily >:)

[strong radish]

I already have a pc I’m just changing out the case, ram, and gpu

[trail ravine]

well my budget is 1k and i wanna put every dollar into performance

[stoic island]

ofc

[trail ravine]

so

[stoic island]

it's possible, just not really reccomended

[little osprey]

wait what about Corsair cx450?

[trail ravine]

i have a list

yea thats fair mr1111

[little osprey]

is cx450 better for my setup

[stoic island]

@little osprey I suggest you not, since it only has 1xPCIe power.
CX is a great series of PSUs, but the 450w model is one I don't like to recommend because of future proofing.

[strong radish]

Still contemplating of if I am gonna get a 3070

[stoic island]

heh

I'd wish you luck for getting one if stock goes anything like 3080 and 3090 launch lol

[strong radish]

Lol

[little osprey]

ah ok

thanks

the scattervolt discord was spamming to me to get the Corsair cx450

[stoic island]

the hell is a scattervolt

Ask them about the single PCIe power.

CX is a great series of PSUs, but I don't like the 450w model for upgradability sake.

[little osprey]

WHY THE HELL IS EVGA BR 500W 60$ NOW

[stoic island]

no idea

used to be 50$ :(

[little osprey]

IT WAS 38$ ON WALMART

[shell wind]

is it hard to build a gamin laptop

[stoic island]

@little osprey if it was, prob pricing error, it was 50$ flat on walmart before

[shell wind]

is it hard to build a gaming laptop

[trail ravine]

yeah the prices for stuff on pcpartpicker seem to be a bit wonky

like it said the r5 3600 was $175 on amazon so i shit my pants and went and looked and it was 205

[lyric thistle]

Pure Power 11 was 60 dolar

Now like 70 or something

500w

[small osprey]

is it hard to build a gaming laptop
@shell wind there is no way to build a gaming laptop

U have to buy one

[trail ravine]

well you can buy a low spec one and upgrade it but you cant really build one

[lyric thistle]

My aunt has a Toshiba laptop that has an upgradable gpu

[trail ravine]

^

stuff like that

[lyric thistle]

It's from 2008

2009

[trail ravine]

although toshiba is outta the game now right?

[small osprey]

Well yea u can upgrade but not build from parts

[trail ravine]

yea i think they left the laptop market

although toshiba is outta the game now right?

[lyric thistle]

You could build it from parts

Just take it apart and put it together again

[trail ravine]

pretty much you can upgrade ram and sometimes cpu very rarely gpu

lmao maniac

[lyric thistle]

🙃

[pliant wren]

You guys said my previous build wasn't that good ( https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TgWzn7 ) So i made a new one (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mr7sHB), tell me what you think

[little osprey]

is this psu fine? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B084Q4XZH8/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=scattervoltyt-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B084Q4XZH8&linkId=05a569c2d4f015c01dd208534ecf3e53

[stoic island]

you having fun?

Worse than BR

Tier D on tier list

so I wouldn't

[little osprey]

dam

evga br is so expensive thooooo

[stoic island]

For reference, RMx is Tier A, CX is Tier B, BR is Tier C, and some very unsavory PSUs like EVGA W1 is in Tier D

For reference, RMx is Tier A, CX is Tier B, BR is Tier C, and some very unsavory PSUs like EVGA W1 is in Tier D

[lyric thistle]

Ngl I hate the idea of a high capacity drive

Something starts to go wrong and you got a lot of data to backup

[warm badge]

30 second startup is nice

[stoic island]

eh

RAID :)

[warm badge]

it's actually probably closer to 15

[lyric thistle]

I think my Blue boots Windows in like 15

[warm badge]

it's actually probably closer to 15

I'm told I exaggerate, so I wanted to give my estimation some room

[little osprey]

evga br is so expensive thooooo

aaaaa

what’s a good cheap 144Hz monitor

what’s a good cheap 144Hz monitor

[stoic island]

Yes

One sec

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824737012
@little osprey

[little osprey]

oh I’m using Walmart to get my parts

affirm

shoot my budget is gonna be over 700$

DAMNIT

[stoic island]

Rip

Got a pcpp list?

I'll try to cut monies off

[little osprey]

mhm

im getting the items on amazon and Walmart tho

[stoic island]

God damn it why xd

[little osprey]

it’s 560$ on Walmart and amazon combined

[stoic island]

What's with people and amazon

[little osprey]

idk I trust it the most

[stoic island]

Newegg is great too

B&h is great

[little osprey]

Walmart has affirm and I have no idea how to save money

I FORGOT IT ABOUT SCHOOL

OH MY GOD

I FORGOT ABOUT SCHOOL

[lyric thistle]

Good

School bad

[little osprey]

WHAT THE HELL

[polar prism]

is cl18 ram bad?

compared to 16\

[whole stag]

Depends

I mean cl16 is pretty good

[keen depot]

@polar prism eh, not really

[whole stag]

Very

[polar prism]

Okay, I am able to get all the parts for my PC except ram so i am trying to figure that out

Cl18 is the only kind availble

[keen depot]

lemme see the build

@polar prism

[polar prism]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cBhv8M

[little osprey]

so I’m too late for school

is the viotek gfv22cb good

it’s 129$ on Walmart and it’s 144hz

[polar prism]

Btw I already have the GPU and I am getting a discount on the case and PSU

[little osprey]

AOC ISNT ON WALMART WTF HAPPENED

[shell wind]

please sned me a kink ti diwnload windows 10 pro

[keen depot]

oh thats why youre getting cl18

@polar prism are you okay sacrificing the RGB for cheaper and better ram?

[polar prism]

I would rather go with corsair just because I trust them more than other companies but if you have suggestions I will look

[keen depot]

@little osprey avoid viotek

-someone who bought a viotek

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gvkc

@polar prism

also

that nvme

[little leaf]

@polar prism Your list hurts me

In many ways

[keen depot]

you can slash 50 bucks off that nvme without sacrificing much performance

team mp34

[polar prism]

lmao you say that to everyones build

[little leaf]

not really

you spend 150 on a 1tb ssd

[keen depot]

case is good

[little leaf]

your mobo is 200 dollars

[keen depot]

psu is overkill

what kind of dis cou

.+?-;l

[little leaf]

gpu is 100 dollars over msrp

[keen depot]

discount?

@little leaf he already has the gpu

[polar prism]

yeah, Im getting the PSU for 112 and upgrading to the 3080 through step up

[keen depot]

alright

alright

[polar prism]

so I will just pay an extra $100 for the 3080 since I just send them the invoice

[trail ravine]

https://tenor.com/bgGm3.gif

[little leaf]

biggest problem for me is the mobo and ssd

[keen depot]

change out the ram and the ssd

[trail ravine]

that list pains me

[keen depot]

and save 70 bucks

the motherboard can be switched

[trail ravine]

so much wasted moneyy

[keen depot]

you could probably go for a b550

[trail ravine]

yea get a b550

and get g.skill 3600mhz cl16 ripjaws v ram

[keen depot]

theres barely any difference between b550 and x570

[polar prism]

Yeah let me check on the mobo

The aorus pro b550 good? compared to the x570?

[little leaf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YGHq6R

if you "need" rgb ram

[keen depot]

he needs an adaptor @little leaf

[little leaf]

wdym?

[keen depot]

he needs a network adaptor

he doesnt have a cable

[little leaf]

I would just get a b550 pro vdh wifi

[polar prism]

The b550 aorus with wifi is only $20 more than that one and 20 less than the x570 so thats fine

[little leaf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/krP8FG

[polar prism]

I'll definitely go b550 and might get that ssd

[small osprey]

does the Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (WI-FI) motherboard have built in bluetooth?

[little leaf]

@polar prism the mp34 is litteraly the same as the sn750

[cloud oasis]

If u need wifi get this https://www.amazon.com/Cudy-WE3000-3000Mbps-Wireless-Bluetooth/dp/B082NZYDDM

[small osprey]

ok

this list look fine?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/phJpjp

[shell wind]

did i successfully install windows 10 pro on the usb

anyone?

[potent prairie]

If it works then yes :)

[viral ore]

you gotta boot from it

[polar prism]

Okay thanks, I went with the team group ssd it looks good

[strong radish]

How do you move windows from a used hard drive to a new nvme

[lyric thistle]

Drive clone

[strong radish]

What

[foggy hazel]

@strong radish by making a clone of the old drive onto the new drive

(also known as a bit for bit copy)

[slow wraith]

Help

I dont have an extra conputer and i need windows 10, what do i do?

Im so confused on how that works

[foggy hazel]

if you dont have a working machine, you either find someone that has one. OR you pay for the retail version of windows that comes on a usb stick

[slow wraith]

Mhmh

My laptip broke://

[lyric thistle]

Could probably download it on a library computer 😉

[slow wraith]

Wanna see my list

[lyric thistle]

Then again maybe not

[slow wraith]

:///

I cant send a link

[lyric thistle]

Remove period so it doesn't hyperlink

[slow wraith]

Nope

[lyric thistle]

Remove period further to left

https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=852101aa-020e-4e22-9f03-0ea22d70cd70

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[slow wraith]

🥴 👀

@lyric thistle take a look at the list😔

[lyric thistle]

Looks p good to me

@stoic island what do you think 😳

I'm not recognize ssd

[shell wind]

I got a key for windows 10 pro and don't know how to enter it
I have windows 10 home now
I tried installing pro but it never gave me the option to choose between pro and home

[small osprey]

if u went through the installation process and entered the windows 10 pro key it shouldve installed windows 10 pro

u probably got a windows 10 home key instead

[stoic island]

@lyric thistle heyo

[little leaf]

@slow wraith is that your list?

[slow wraith]

@little leaf tes

Yes

[little leaf]

Ok first don't buy windows at msrp

you can buy a key off ebay for 5 dollars

[slow wraith]

I have bought the gpu, motherboard, ram, case fans and cpu

@little leaf i need the file

Or whatever

Idk how it works

[little leaf]

just down load it off microsofts website

[slow wraith]

How am i gonna like install it with just the key

I dont ahve a computer

[little leaf]

no laptop?

no crapy old family desktop

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

[slow wraith]

@little leaf i broke mines accidentally and thats why im building one

[little leaf]

so you have no where to go to download a file on to a thumb drive

[slow wraith]

@little leaf nope

[little leaf]

welp if you have litterly no one to go to

to download a file

then

[slow wraith]

Nope

[little leaf]

I guess you have to waste 100 dollars

[slow wraith]

Yup 😔 🥛 👇

[little leaf]

also

Are you sure there is absolutly no one

like anyone that will download it for you

[slow wraith]

My cousin has an old computer frok like 2013

Laptop

[little leaf]

that'll work

[slow wraith]

Idk if i can download it there

[little leaf]

litteraly any computer

[slow wraith]

Mhmh ok ill see

I need to find my sd card

[little leaf]

no you need a thumb drive

[slow wraith]

@little leaf whats that

Nvm

Its an usb

But usnt it sinilar to an usb...?

[balmy patio]

a usb is faster than an sd card i believe

[desert gulch]

the sd card i bought on wish said it was 20 gigs/sec

...

[languid nimbus]

[keen depot]

@desert gulch lol

[desert gulch]

lol

[keen depot]

aliexpress pc or wish pc?

make your choice

[desert gulch]

you see the vid ltt did on a 1tb card?

[keen depot]

yes

[desert gulch]

lmao

i wonder how many people bought it

[polar python]

1660s, 1660ti, or 5600xt?

I kinda want a 2070(s)

[polar prism]

switched from 1tb nvme to 500gb cause 1tb is more than I need rn

Ill wait till black friday deals to get more storage

[chrome rampart]

when are the new intel cpus coming??

10875 i think?

[slow wraith]

@desert gulch i bought mines on wish too

Sucks

Never buying there bc stuff dont arrive in time or at all

[polar python]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sT3sHB

Rate it 1-10

I was trying to keep it at around $800

[chrome rampart]

sorry 1185G7 CPU

[polar python]

I heard gigabyte GPUs have loud fans

Is that true?

[prisma stag]

@polar python For the budget you have i'd give you an 8/10, nice setup will let you do alot of things.

[polar python]

Thx

What could I do to make it better?

[polar prism]

Does anyone have a good reasonably new build guide for a pc? I build one a few years ago but some things are different so I want to watch a video that can help

[potent prairie]

Check LTT

[marsh kiln]

Or bitwit

[polar prism]

okay cool thank you

[marsh kiln]

And another good one is jaystwocents and no problem

[potent prairie]

AMD 4000 is to be announced early October, right?

[marsh kiln]

Not sure someone else might know

[night iron]

October 8 @potent prairie

[marsh kiln]

@bosswoman3 thanks I was actually wondering that to I will put that on my Google calender now thanks again

[junior crescent]

Would this be a good pc build for streaming/Gaming and is the setup good?? https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/GWxVdm

[clever root]

my msi gaming x 1080ti

fresh from costco 😩

[ripe wedge]

wat kinda file is that

[clever root]

idk

just check it out

it wouldnt let me send a pic from my phone

[ripe wedge]

yeah idk

[clever root]

lol

[stoic island]

Lol

[potent prairie]

Ack, beat me to it

[viral ore]

kekw

[inland atlas]

@clever root

Do you own an apple devicr

Device

[clever root]

well my phone

[inland atlas]

Yeah

The file is from iPhone

Aka any apple product

[clever root]

oh ok

[ripe wedge]

weird that it didnt automatically embed

[shell wind]

can someone help me in os and software

[inland atlas]

They are a rookie @ripe wedge

[ripe wedge]

ah

makes sense then

didnt put it together lol im going back and forth to discord and my programming

[inland atlas]

All good

[prisma stag]

hey guys trying to take what cords i dont need out of my case

do i need the peripheral cable in my psu?

[junior crescent]

Qould this be a good streaming/gaming pc and setup for the price https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/GWxVdm

[stoic island]

I don't like the looks of it

[stark bramble]

for 2700, ehhh...

[whole stag]

Maybe a new case

[stark bramble]

that 60hz monitor is a horrible deal

absolutely horrible

[junior crescent]

Is the pc at least ok

[whole stag]

Yeah specs wise is good

[stark bramble]

its not bad, just hella expensive

[wheat summit]

new sticker

[junior crescent]

Everything is expensive in Australia

[whole stag]

Get a case with a mesh front for maximum airflow

[stoic island]

@junior crescent PC is meh, peripherals is where I think you need an overhaul

[whole stag]

@wheat summit Phanteks P400A 👀

[stoic island]

is it for gaming?

[junior crescent]

What would you recommend i change to the list

I wouldn't mind going to 3000 aud

[stoic island]

I say add peripherals to this list
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/6RqWYH

[junior crescent]

Ohh ok

I'll change it

[stoic island]

if it's for gaming that is

[junior crescent]

Yea

[stoic island]

if you want video editing or whatever, change it back to a 3700x.

[stark bramble]

the ventus 3070 is 810?

holy

[stoic island]

I'll look for peripherals for you too

@stark bramble aud

[stark bramble]

ohh

[stoic island]

like @junior crescent this at least for the main monitor
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/HBRzK8/aoc-c24g1-240-1920x1080-144-hz-monitor-c24g1

[junior crescent]

Ok

[serene osprey]

hey @stoic island could i bother you with a quick question

[stoic island]

sure

do whatever

[serene osprey]

i’m building a pc but i am waiting for the 3080 , is there any reason to buy the rest of the parts now or should i just wait to buy them all at once

[polar prism]

all at once

[balmy patio]

wait for cyber monday

or any other holiday where deals get to you

[polar prism]

yep

[serene osprey]

ty guys

[stoic island]

all at once

[polar prism]

also if you buy all now and wait until the 3080 if something doesnt work you might be outside of the return date

[balmy patio]

would you guys recommend using pc part picker or the one at newegg?

[stoic island]

buy all at once.

Pcpartpicker, more places it pulls pricing from, and more variety from other stores.

[balmy patio]

ok thanks

and yeah i agree with ficn and mr111

[granite imp]

@viral ore does that mobo have a cooling fan built onto it?

[stoic island]

@granite imp what mobo

[granite imp]

Go look at sassy post in #build-pics

Evga mobo

🤷🏻‍♂️

[stoic island]

love that noctua sticker :)

[viral ore]

is good sticker

[stoic island]

I don't see a fan on the mobo?

am confused

[viral ore]

the VRMs are actively cooled

its got 2 40mm fans on the vrm heatsink

[stoic island]

hm

what else did I expect from evga dark :P

[viral ore]

how about GOLD PLATED EDGES

[junior crescent]

Is this better??? @stoic island https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/67dv8M

[junior crescent]

Can someone just look and see if this is good

[rustic sandal]

@wary geode what gpu is that in your pic? Also looks great

[wary geode]

gtx 1070 aouros i got for 130 :))))

[rustic sandal]

bruh that looks thickkkk

thought it was a 3080 tbh, it looks amazing

[wary geode]

I KNOW IT LOOKS AMAZING

[tame tangle]

i just built my pc and in a benchmark it said the cpu is way below average in performance it is a ryzen 3 3100 how can i fix that?

[lyric thistle]

easy

just don't use User Benchmark

[stoic island]

@tame tangle don't worry too much about it lel

[junior crescent]

Is this good for streaming and Gaming https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/J3Ttx6

@stoic island

[ripe wedge]

@junior crescent doesnt look terrible

[prisma stag]

Hey guys if I want to run dual displays. Ill have one of my monitors that is 165hz and the other is 60hz.. Does running these dual lower the performance of my 165 hz monitor?

[orchid matrix]

Not that I know of I use a 60hz and a 75hz

[prisma stag]

what about one being 1440p and the other 1080p?

[orchid matrix]

I’m not sure both of mine are 1080

I wouldn’t think so

Also do you know of any 22” 144-240hz monitors for $150

[desert gulch]

@polar python dang that 3600x is expensive atm

3600x was like 210 a week ago

[stoic island]

@junior crescent if you only game and stream, 3600 is good.

[radiant palm]

Hello I came on here to see if anyone knows of any decent build specks that won’t brake the bank for a pc. I want something that will help with school but still play like small games nothing too crazy. I mostly just want to start with something small now so when I feel like I can do more I can upgrade the pc. If anyone has anything please let me know by private message or just by saying it in chat like a place to by or anything.

[stoic island]

@radiant palm gib budget

It's simple, give us what you can spend, and we give you what you can get for the price.

Different people have different sense of scale for economy

I can say 1000$ build is a budget build, or say even a 2000$ build is a cheap budget build, or say ~800$ for a budget build.

So, give us any budget, and we'll give you what you can get for the budget :p

[rustic sandal]

Also @wary geode are those the newer cooler master fans? Bc they’re cheap and they look great, I thought about getting some

[wary geode]

the ones in my build?

[rustic sandal]

yes

[wary geode]

oh i had it come with my m240r

its buetiful under the right software

its like the cooler master pro version or whatver i think they expensiveeee

wait i might be wortn

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-R4-120R-203C-R1-Addressable-Radiators/dp/B07GSRJJTQ/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=cooler+master+fans&qid=1601434355&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExSFRTSzhWVlhQNFZaJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwOTY2MTAxOVFWR084MDJXU0JFJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAxNTg0OTRSQTRMV0ZIU0M0WDkmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl

belive its those

yo i got nitro nerddss

[ripe wedge]

@wary geode imma be getting those fans for my future build

best bang for buck I think. also will match my TD500 mesh preinstalled fans

[little leaf]

Those are pricey

[ripe wedge]

the coolermaster fans?

[little leaf]

Ya

[ripe wedge]

what would you recommend then

for price point

if u think thats pricy then look at corsair fans lol

[little leaf]

I like busget

So

[ripe wedge]

$130 for corsair rgb fans

[little leaf]

Not really

Sp120 +hub is like 70

But either way

I like uphere or. Asia horse for budget

But not for midrange

[ripe wedge]

what would ya say for midrange

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/287mdm heres my list of parts

[little leaf]

Thats

Not midrange

[ripe wedge]

I mean

[shell wind]

I'm having trouble downloading discord on my pc

[ripe wedge]

its kinda high end

[little leaf]

And you can get a 3080 there

[ripe wedge]

I already have the 2070S

[little leaf]

Whats the purpose?

[ripe wedge]

I want an actual desktop lol

this egpu setup isnt great

also performance loss with egpu

[little leaf]

You know you cant litteraly get a pc with a 3080

With the price

[ripe wedge]

yea

[little leaf]

And sell the 2070s

[ripe wedge]

well if I can get my hands on one yea

[little leaf]

Either way purpose?

[ripe wedge]

gaming basically but I multitask a ton

[wary geode]

here jake

[little leaf]

Ok so a 10600kf

[wary geode]

https://www.amazon.com/Asiahorse-FS-9002-Outside-Motherboard-Controller/dp/B081742CJ9/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=asiahorse&qid=1601434874&sr=8-4

[little leaf]

Plus a a u12 or d15

A 3080

A td500

[wary geode]

https://www.amazon.com/Asiahorse-FS-9002-Outside-Motherboard-Controller/dp/B08CXL9F7G/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=asiahorse+black+fans&qid=1601434905&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEySThZMVJLOUlNRDRCJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzg0ODc4QUlXNkpUSDk2VjlQJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAyMjc3MDIyMDBGSDExUkVNTzhOJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

@ripe wedge

[shell wind]

I am having trouble downloading discordb on mybpc

[ripe wedge]

@wary geode those are pretty nice ill think about them

[wary geode]

i have the white ojne

[little leaf]

Sunday just google

[ripe wedge]

@shell wind whats the issue

you download the discord installer then click it and install it

[shell wind]

Send link plz

[little leaf]

Jake

[ripe wedge]

https://discord.com/ @shell wind