#building-and-recc-chat

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stoic island
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there's battery and jumper method

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different ways to go about it.

night storm
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K

stoic island
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Same thing tho.

night storm
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Yea theoretically achieves same thing right

stoic island
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Wait, so each monitor works one at a time, and each port works one at a time correct?

night storm
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No

stoic island
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didn't fully read everything

night storm
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Display port functions

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Can’t daisychain monitor does not@support it

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HDMI will not function either monitor

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But two monitors, two cords both function HDMI when ran on different computer

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But two days ago on fresh build HDMI worked

stoic island
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So HDMI port is now failing?

night storm
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Yes

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Will not detect monitor

stoic island
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There are some motherboard drivers involving onboard display iirc

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have you looked into those?

night storm
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Yea all drivers updated, bios updated immediately before I came here

stoic island
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(as in, maybe you installed some faulty driver maybe?)

night storm
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I tried resetting to previous driver too

foggy hazel
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last question before bed

stoic island
foggy hazel
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it does not work at all right? as in, it does not work in bios either right?

night storm
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Correct not at all

foggy hazel
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then drivers are not relevant

night storm
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I’ll double check mr

stoic island
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oh fun

night storm
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But yea should be

stoic island
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There are some BIOS that default to only 1 monitor tho

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But I'm not sure

foggy hazel
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this might sound silly, but try and check with a very bright light that there is not "something" in the port on the back @night storm

stoic island
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I'm out of ideas for now.

night storm
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Should default to plugged in one if only one is plugged in though right

foggy hazel
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you know like how you can get lint stuck in the charge port on a phone etc

night storm
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Checked all pins on HDMI

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Clean nothing bent

foggy hazel
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bugger

night storm
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Good q though

foggy hazel
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and on that cheery note i am out for the night

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best of luck

night storm
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Haha thanks!

little osprey
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do you have another hdmi cable

night storm
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Yes I’ve tried two and two monitors both function on other pc

little osprey
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damn

night storm
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Yea im stumped but feeling less dumb since I’ve done everything that’s been asked

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😂

stoic island
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Well, might be time to get a support ticket into MSI.

night storm
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For sure

little osprey
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yep

night storm
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Thank you guys!

stoic island
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You're welcome

night storm
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And yea vga is that driver version

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Double checked

hazy ridge
little osprey
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anything from pcpartpicker is generally relatively safe except for some amazon sellers

night storm
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Depends on how much you pay for shipping and if it’s in stock and where you live

stoic island
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All the websites are trustworthy, just pay attention if it's Third party sellers selling on the website @hazy ridge

little osprey
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mr1111 articulated better what I said

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3rd party sellers are the only real risk

hazy ridge
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how do i check that @stoic island

little osprey
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go to the pages themselves

stoic island
little osprey
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amazon should be your main worry honestly

stoic island
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it's usually pretty obvious on the side

little osprey
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they have a lot of 3rd party sellers

stoic island
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instead of "Sold and Shipped by Newegg"

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or like "Sold by Amazon"

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and says some random company

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that's when it matters

little osprey
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why is it 299 CAD the hell

stoic island
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had to click some random seller

little osprey
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how much is that in USD

stoic island
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230

little osprey
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pfft

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there's like

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an official offer by newegg

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on $270 CAD

stoic island
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There's the official offer at 270 cad

little osprey
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these look safe to buy from

hazy ridge
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how do i see were the parts are sold from on memoryexpress vuugo

stoic island
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If they don't mention anything, they're likely shipping directly from ME and vuugo

plush wigeon
little osprey
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lmao vuugo doesn't even have a mobile site

stoic island
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ummm

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whaaa

hazy ridge
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B450-A PRO MAX w/ DDR4-2666, what does the ddr4 2666 mean?

stoic island
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why a td500 non-mesh

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get td500 mesh

hazy ridge
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is that its limit?

stoic island
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ignore

little osprey
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also yeah vuugo seems to be a little like microcenter deal

plush wigeon
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It's mesh

little osprey
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2666 is the emory speed

stoic island
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no

little osprey
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I'm sure that's not the limit

stoic island
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there's 2 version of TD500

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the first edition didn't have mesh

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then they updated with mesh and it was a great case

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For gaming you don't need a 3700x

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or an aio

little osprey
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non-mesh cases are generally a bad idea lmao

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the airflow is compromised much more

stoic island
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I go make changes

plush wigeon
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Oh. my bad. Thought I had the mesh selected lol

stoic island
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why the speakers?

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and where's the mouse?

little osprey
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you could just have an air cooler

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most of the time AIO doesn't really make a diff

stoic island
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I'd go stock lmao

little osprey
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if amd yes

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if intel no

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one of the two is a i5 10600k

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and well this is for gaming soo

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AMD>intel rn

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if you really don't care about 10+ fps in your games just go amd

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maybe tiger lake will change that

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intel was ahead until ryzen 2

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now they're well behind in thermals, TDP and price/performance ratio

stoic island
little osprey
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^ thats a good list

stoic island
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I'm still on my doctrine of "if you're not getting at least a 2080s/3070, intel doesn't make sense"

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that mobo is still overkill

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but still beefy and has wifi with full gen 4 support for cheaper so why not

little osprey
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yeah but ez upgrade to ryzen 4000 if you want

plush wigeon
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@stoic island mouse is included with the keyboard, Speakers are for watching stuff like Netflix, hulu and other stuff. I'd rather not wear headphones all the time or use the stock monitor speakers.

stoic island
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PC37x is supposed to be really good for being a headset

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and I'd grab at least a decent ish mouse

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or just a good mouse like a model o

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peripherals can contribute a good bit to your experience

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I personally don't have uses for speakers, but if you are convinced that you'll be needing em, go for it.

plush wigeon
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The headset I had selected has good reviews as well.

stoic island
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I go by what Ghost and Naed says, according to them, most gaming headsets don't provide good audio.

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And Pc37x is just a middle point between bad gaming headsets and great audiophile headphones.

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Of course they're not full-time audio reviewers, but they're people that you can talk to here about audio :)

cloud oasis
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If i get zen 3 will i have to upgrade my bios

dense quiver
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is a 5600xt fine for a 3600

hollow grove
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yes

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i have a 5700xt with a 3700x and it's great as well

stoic island
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ok

hollow grove
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ok

prisma stag
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if this 3080 doesnt come in stock i might get a 5700

cloud oasis
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If i get zen 3 will i have to upgrade my bios

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Or no

plush wigeon
cloud oasis
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Cuz i remember someone saying i dont have to

little leaf
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@cloud oasis we dont know sk wait

stoic island
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no

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different aio @plush wigeon

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freezer ii

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:P

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and I'm not going to touch your peripherals, you go fix them yourself depending on how you feel about them

keen depot
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@little osprey it's gonna be ryzen 5000s, just fyi

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They're skipping 4000s for some reason

little osprey
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so i need a new drive since my hdd died, should i get an m.2 or a normal ssd

keen depot
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@little osprey how much storage, what's going to be stored on it, and maximum price

stoic island
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@keen depot only rumors

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:P

keen depot
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It's probably gonna be it tho

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But time will tell

little osprey
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@little osprey how much storage, what's going to be stored on it, and maximum price
@keen depot mostly games and probably under $120 would be nice

keen depot
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How many games?

little osprey
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Idk about storage

stoic island
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MP34 1tb

keen depot
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Cause 120 will get you probably a medium end 1tb

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Yeah

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That works too

stoic island
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high end actually :P

keen depot
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Really?

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I always though the 100:1 was medium

stoic island
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I'd consider it to be high end

little osprey
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1tb is good

stoic island
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3k mb/s r/w

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with dram

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on e12

keen depot
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Then yeah, go with the team mp34

stoic island
little osprey
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Ok#

stoic island
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wdym 100:1 was medium

keen depot
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100 dollars to 1 terabyte

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I'm too lazy do to math

stoic island
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no

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just no

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model matters

keen depot
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Lol

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I know that

stoic island
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970evo plus isn't 2x as good as a mp34 because it's twice the price

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:P

keen depot
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That's true about most components tho

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A 2080ti wasn't double the performance of a 2080

stoic island
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so why you be using it :(

keen depot
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It's because I'm too lazy to read into models of storage devices

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The only time I get work done is when it's one day from being due

cloud oasis
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Whats the 3080 performance

stoic island
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yes

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gn testing

cloud oasis
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Double the performance of 2080 right

stoic island
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look at gn testing

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is simple

deep skiff
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tldr no

cloud oasis
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Okie

stoic island
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some places

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but not really

polar prism
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Time to check for 3080s all day tomorrow:)

prisma stag
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im with u on that

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tempted to pay double for one on ebay

rustic sandal
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mostly gaming but doesn’t need much storage so intel and only 500gb SSD

stoic island
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INTEL IN A BUDGET BUILD????

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You should know better :(

rustic sandal
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He wanted intel

stoic island
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simple way is grab a 3100+b550 ds3h.

rustic sandal
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Should I ask if amd is alright

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eh 3100 is a little cheap

stoic island
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Want and need are different

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:P

rustic sandal
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We could go for a 3600

stoic island
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heh

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could

rustic sandal
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and get a b450ds3h

stoic island
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3100 will give you a lot of room in budget

rustic sandal
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Then ram would be supported as well

deep skiff
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a520 where it at

rustic sandal
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True

stoic island
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eh maybe

rustic sandal
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hmmm I’ll change it

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Or a 2600 tbh

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It’s $140 right now

stoic island
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I don't like 2600 but ig it works

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just change storage out for a 512gb mp34 lel

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you can get more later

plush wigeon
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@stoic island if you have peripheral suggestions I'm fine with it. The only thing about the keyboard is I prefer to have it with the 10 keys. A wrist pad for it would be nice as well.

cloud oasis
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Just watched gamers nexus videos and did math

plush wigeon
stoic island
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My suggest are the same as before

cloud oasis
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Decided to get h500 because it has pretty good temps for both cpu and gpu accordong to gamers nexus

plush wigeon
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@cloud oasis ? Why is there thermal paste in that build? Isn't it included?

cloud oasis
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because i might need it later

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Also i dont wanna use the pre applied one

prisma stag
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anyone got desktop speakers suggestion?

polar prism
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Asus tuff x570 WiFi or MSI MPG x570 wifi?

little osprey
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@polar prism personally Asus, but msi might be better for pricd

polar prism
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I was more for MSI for the bios, I know people who like it more but I didn’t know if that was all

little osprey
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I prefer Asus bios

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I have the Asus rog Strix b450

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Bios is easy and simple

polar prism
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I might decide when I get the 3080. If I get the asus I’ll do that it MSI I’ll do that. But I’ll take what I can get lol

little osprey
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Yeah

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Msi might be cheaper

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Tbh I'd get the board w/o wifi and then get a wifi pcie card

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Will be even cheaper

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And then if your card dies you don't need a new board

polar prism
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Ah that’s true. Sadly I need wifi in my apartment. It’s fast but I wish they had at least one plugin

little osprey
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I got a rosewill wifi pcie x1 card for $38

polar prism
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The board is $209 w WiFi and $190 w/o Bored

little osprey
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Might as well go wifi lol

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Usually wifi is a bit more expensive

polar prism
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When I was looking at it x570 doesn’t have a huge price gap like b550 does

little osprey
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Well b550 is newer

polar prism
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B550 non WiFi go for 130-140 and WiFi is 180-190

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Newer with less features?

little osprey
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Its supposed to be a middle ground between a b450 and a x570

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For example for CPUs like the 7 series where a b450 is good but a x570 is a bit much

polar prism
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Ah that makes sense. My build is very overkill for what I need but I want to be in the best spot I can be for the money

little osprey
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Can I see?

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@little osprey I'd go Gigabyte D3SH

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for the mobo?

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ok

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Yes

polar prism
little osprey
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And either g skill rip jaw or Corsair vengence for ram

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ok

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The b550 SHOULD be around that price range@little osprey

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ok

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lol i went down in price

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change the ram too

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?

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Preferably

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Better quality

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ok

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@little osprey what's the price on that Seagate?

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Also, you COULD go down to a 500w

rustic sandal
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No boot drive?

little osprey
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I'm running almost the same specs, a bit better GPU that's overclocked, a nvme and a sata ssd and I'm running 500W

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G.Skill Ripjaws V 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory

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this right

rustic sandal
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No

little osprey
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No not 64gb

rustic sandal
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not 64 lol

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Also cl16

little osprey
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o

rustic sandal
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3200mhz 16gb cl16

little osprey
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ok

polar prism
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Thank you @little osprey I’m glad all of my main components are solid now I’ve changed them 20x in the past 2 weeks 😅

little osprey
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@polar prism I was the same way

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Btw, if you have any questions or no one's online/helping feel free to DM and I'll help of I can

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G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory got it

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^👍

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@little osprey and a 500w psu

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Unless you'll be OC EVERYTHING you won't need a 650W

polar prism
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I’m switching from console to PC for work and gaming so I’m spending as much as I can for as much performance as I can get. I have a 32” 1440p monitor and I should be able to max it out in about any game

little osprey
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the seagate is $55

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2 tb

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I'm OC my GPU, RAM, and my CPU and I'm running 500W

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I'm also running a 2tb ssd and a 1tb nvme ssd

prisma stag
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will most motherboards come with the riser screws to keep the motherboard off of the case?

rustic sandal
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Oc the hdd

little osprey
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And 6 case fans

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@prisma stag most do

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Mine did

prisma stag
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ok ty

little osprey
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should i keep the seagate storage

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or change

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Preferably add like a 120 gb SSD as a boot drive

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And drop the psu

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ok

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A 500w will do

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get a 500 watt

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Yes

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ok

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any 120 gb i should get

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i see one for 30

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Link?

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$30

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Kingston A400

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This should be good

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Around the same price

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@rustic sandal what you think?

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Team mp33 as a boot drive?

keen depot
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@little osprey use the team mp34

little osprey
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EVGA 100-W1-0500-KR is good?

next kestrel
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no

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its kinda bad

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but if thats all your budget allows

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well it is evga

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and you have a slightly higher chance of getting a new psu if it blows up

keen depot
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I'm looking through the tier list and I'm not seeing anything

next kestrel
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its a W1

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not very good

little osprey
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o

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ok

cloud oasis
next kestrel
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tier D

cloud oasis
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According to gamers nexus the x570 has zen 3 support

little osprey
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Cooler Master MasterWatt Lite Full Range

cloud oasis
little osprey
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Cooler Master MasterWatt Lite Full Range
@little osprey ?

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wtf

keen depot
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@cloud oasis do you know the difference between the b550 and x570 chipsets?

little leaf
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@little osprey a mp33 is fine

little osprey
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Figured^

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Especially since it's just a boot drive

little leaf
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a mp33 is pretty comperable to a p1

keen depot
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Whats the difference between the 33 and 34 anyway

little osprey
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Nothing fancy like gaming and such

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@keen depot a number?

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Ones newer?

little leaf
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no

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33 has slower speeds

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by like 1 gig but

keen depot
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It's 10 dollars cheaper or so

little leaf
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most people don't need 3 gigs per seccond

keen depot
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That too

little leaf
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so the mp33 is fine

little osprey
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is the Thermaltake Smart a good psu

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500w

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i cant find any 500w on here

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There's tons of 500w

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And I'm running a smart rn, no issues

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i dont see

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Most would say not too tho

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is it good

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Here ya go

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thanks

cloud oasis
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@keen depot no i dont

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I dont know the differences

little osprey
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Looks good to me

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ok

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AMD Ryzen 5 3600 or AMD Ryzen 5 3600X

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@little leaf @keen depot does it have y'all's seal of approval?

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@little osprey my opinion 5 3600

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ok

little leaf
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3600x is the same price

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so

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free perf

keen depot
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@little osprey how much is that board

little leaf
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a better board for the pirce imo

little osprey
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Wait.... That is the b550.....

little leaf
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is a msi b550 pro vdh

little osprey
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94.99

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is it bad

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No

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You just don't really need a b550

keen depot
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I mean that power supply is a bit iffy

little osprey
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o

keen depot
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It's a C tier

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Here

little osprey
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Better than a thermaltake smart

keen depot
little osprey
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ill take it for now any problems ill change it

next kestrel
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ok uhh i would get a 2600 and a 1660 super instead but

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if you'd prefer cpu perfs for some reason ya go for it

little osprey
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i was thinking about that

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lol

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whats the price

next kestrel
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youre the one on pcpp

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not me

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lmao

little osprey
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woahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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300

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DOLLARS

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Ill just upgrade later

next kestrel
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for what?

little osprey
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wym?

next kestrel
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2600 should be around 70$ cheaper than 3600

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and 1660 super should be around 230$

little osprey
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i thought u were talking about the 2060

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lol

next kestrel
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oh

little osprey
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why is there so many gpu companys

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i cant find what i WANT

next kestrel
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find the cheapest that isn't a 1 fan model lmao

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or when in doubt, buy evga

keen depot
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@little osprey you're going for a 1660 super, right?

little osprey
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yea

keen depot
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I mean it's a bit iffy of a source

little osprey
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i found one

keen depot
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I haven't bothered to confirm it

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But look through these

little osprey
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MSI GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card

next kestrel
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MSI isnt the best afaik

keen depot
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H.

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Hm

little osprey
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should i change it

keen depot
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Use my link

keen depot
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And find one of them

next kestrel
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honestly its whatevers in stock rn

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and the gigabyte one looks p good

keen depot
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You could go with evga

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They're very customer friendly

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I wonder if they still have their upgrade program

next kestrel
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they do

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but i think its within 3 months of purchase

little osprey
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ima get the evga rtx 2060

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bc why not

keen depot
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Wait what

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Woah slow down

little osprey
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lol

keen depot
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Y tho

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I mean if it's within your budget

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Go for it

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Just take a look at reviews and cimparisons

little osprey
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ima get these around black friday so prices can go down

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then ill be able to get it

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ok

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i play fortnite

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and raytracing is avalible on 2060s

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pretty sure

keen depot
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uh

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Don't depend on black friday

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Things get wild

little osprey
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my birthday is 2 weeks after if things sell out ill wait or buy something diff

next kestrel
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ah yes

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"well if i can pay 50$ more i can get the 1660 super... if i add just 50$ more, i can get ray tracing!... i want to really use ray tracing, how about another 50$?"

little osprey
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yessir

waxen finch
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Yo

keen depot
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That's an interesting combo

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@next kestrel let's be honest that's how it is for all of us

next kestrel
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yes

little osprey
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lol

cloud oasis
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I picked a new case

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What u guys think

keen depot
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I swear to god it better not be the asus helios case

vital warren
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3080 on 1080p wuuut

keen depot
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@cloud oasis no

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Just go back

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Please

cloud oasis
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Why

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My friend said itll die

keen depot
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My eyes, they burn looking at this travesty of a case

cloud oasis
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Cuz of cheap fans

keen depot
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Just go back to the meshify

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It's a nice case

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Ah please change out for a 1440 144

cloud oasis
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Whats wrong with the current case

keen depot
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It's ugly

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It's off brand

cloud oasis
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i think its pwetty

vital warren
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meshify c / 220t / td500 mesh/ phanteks p400a/p500 are much better options at that price

keen depot
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^

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Better airflow

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Better designs

cloud oasis
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But do they come with fans

keen depot
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You don't need fans

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Really

vital warren
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td500 mesh has 3 preinstalled rgb fans

keen depot
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That too

vital warren
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meshify c has two black stock fans

cloud oasis
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all i want is a good airflow case that comes with fans

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And has good airflow

vital warren
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not sure about the 220t/phanteks fan counts

keen depot
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Look you're not going to need more than three fans

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Anything past that is pointless

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Especially if you're going with an air cooler

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It'll pull air through

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At a semi acceptable rate

cloud oasis
lyric thistle
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So will a water cooler KnucklesThinking

cloud oasis
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Better?

keen depot
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Yes

vital warren
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that monitor makes me cringe 😦

keen depot
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@cloud oasis you should still get a 1440p 144hz

cloud oasis
#

why

#

I want 1080p and 280hz

keen depot
#

Because putting a OCed 3080 on 1080 is wasting a perfectly good 3080

vital warren
#

getting a 3080 for just 1080p is kind of a waste imo

#

you can still get great frames on 1440p using that

cloud oasis
#

Then ill just get a better one later on

keen depot
#

...

#

...

vital warren
#

but $350 for a 1080p monitor...

cloud oasis
#

Also i dont like 1440p

keen depot
#

Why not

cloud oasis
#

Its 280hz ips

#

Which isnt bad

#

At all

keen depot
#

You don't need

#

280

#

Hz

#

Jesus

cloud oasis
#

Yes i do

#

Im shroud Smile

vital warren
#

you dont really need past 144

keen depot
#

What do you expect to change in your vision

#

At absolute most you'll see a difference between 80 to 120

#

Anything past there

cloud oasis
#

I used to have 60hz

#

So

keen depot
#

...

#

60 hz is 60fps

cloud oasis
#

I think it will be funny

#

I used to have 60hz monitor and now im getting 280

little osprey
#

280hz is a thing

#

?

vital warren
#

360hz is a thing

little osprey
#

ik that

#

but didnt know that 280 was

vital warren
cloud oasis
#

And its only 340$

#

But not in stock

keen depot
#

340 is a lot for 1080p

cloud oasis
#

dud its 280hz tho

vital warren
#

you don't need 280hz

keen depot
#

^

#

You're just wasting power

vital warren
#

and money

keen depot
#

Budget?

cloud oasis
#

Then wheres a ips thats 280hz under 350

desert gulch
#

And use case?

keen depot
#

Search up a 500 dollar pc build on youtube

#

Bitwit, LTT(?), and jayztwocents is who I would use

vital warren
#

i'd keep saving for a little bit so you can build a pretty powerful machine

#

could always snag those amazing used prices that come around every once in a while

keen depot
#

True

cunning knoll
#

whats the best case i could get 120 and less?

keen depot
#

@cunning knoll a lot

vital warren
#

yep

keen depot
#

100 is usually the most you should spend on a case

cloud oasis
#

Td500

keen depot
#

n o

vital warren
#

meshify c / td500 mesh/ phanteks has a few good options/ 220t etc

desert gulch
#

Yeah td500 is good

#

P400a is great too

keen depot
#

Oh

#

Thought you were talking about that case you had a while back cntrl

vital warren
#

if you want micro atx darkflash has nice cases with mesh fronts

cloud oasis
#

P400a is dust

#

Dust collector lvl 1000

cunning knoll
#

for a midtower btw

desert gulch
#

But has good airflow

cloud oasis
#

Yea but dust

vital warren
#

dust can be cleaned

#

overheating parts with a bad case can not be cleaned as easily

keen depot
#

VA panels anyone?

desert gulch
#

No

#

👎

#

Ips gang

keen depot
#

I mean they're not terrible

#

It's just that response time

desert gulch
#

But ips is much better

keen depot
#

Eh

#

It's kind of preference

desert gulch
#

They have better color and good response.times

vital warren
#

i'm fine with va/ips i just don't like tn

keen depot
#

Eh the monitor that I got was crappy somewhat offbrand

#

When it comes time itll get replaced

#

For the time being I just mess with color settings

cloud oasis
#

lulw

desert gulch
#

Is it a sceptre?

keen depot
#

Viotek

cloud oasis
vital warren
#

i'm finally switching off of my 60hz acer 8ms monitor this year lol

keen depot
#

As I said, somewhat offbrand

desert gulch
#

Lol viotek is pretty bad

keen depot
#

Still better then most offbrand tho

desert gulch
#

Not price wiss but quality wise

keen depot
#

I forgot, is viotek the one that uses samsung stuff

desert gulch
#

Idk

cloud oasis
#

Should i get extra fans to put on the back of td500 mesh

keen depot
#

Heh fair

#

I'll probably just keep it for a while

desert gulch
#

Do you need.more fans?

cloud oasis
#

idk

#

Its optional doe

keen depot
#

It should come with one stock fan at the back

#

Which should be good

desert gulch
#

How many does it come with?

cloud oasis
#

ok

keen depot
#

Most cases have a backfan

desert gulch
#

Yeah you want more than 1 fan total

cloud oasis
#

Also u can update bios without cpu right

keen depot
#

It has three I think 120 on the front

cloud oasis
#

Cuz i wanna get zen 3

desert gulch
#

Not neccessarily

vital warren
#

td500 mesh has 3 preinstalled on the front

desert gulch
#

U getting a b450?

vital warren
#

i'd just slap an exhaust on if you want and grab a nice 360mm aio and you're good to go my friend

keen depot
#

@cloud oasis I wouldn't hold my breath for zen 3 quite yet

cloud oasis
#

Ew aio

keen depot
#

There's still a long time to go

#

Aio is better then air

vital warren
#

i said that about aios before cntrl but they dont scare me anymore

desert gulch
#

No

cloud oasis
#

yea but why

desert gulch
#

Air is much better

cloud oasis
#

True

keen depot
#

For the price

#

Yes

#

But if you want to OC

cloud oasis
#

Also i saw a ltt video

vital warren
#

I only suggest aio because the arctic liquid freezer is good and affordable

keen depot
#

Cough cough cntrl

#

Still don't think you should oc

desert gulch
#

With air nothing can really go wrong

#

Compared to an aio

vital warren
#

but a $50 air cooler would work perfectly fine

#

yeah that's true

keen depot
#

Yeah

desert gulch
#

Where it has the slight possibility to destrpy your system

keen depot
#

Although AIOs are usually pretty good quality

#

And you should test it out of your system anyway

desert gulch
#

Yeag

keen depot
#

If you're that worried

desert gulch
#

Try to go for a name brand aio still

#

Like cooler master or corsair

cloud oasis
#

My dog is so cutie

keen depot
#

Noctua works as well

desert gulch
#

Yeah

#

Otherwise you are dead man

vital warren
#

^

keen depot
#

I'll one up you on that one

#

Not even cables

#

@desert gulch how long should I stick with my current monitor do you think

#

It's pretty much been a year at this point

ripe quest
#

what specs are ur monitor @keen depot

desert gulch
#

Is it a 60hz?

keen depot
#

Bad

#

Well

ripe quest
#

well what hz and res

keen depot
#

Technically yes because my laptop won't let me go above 60

#

It's mean to me

#

I've tried everything

ripe quest
#

well how many hz can the monitor go to

keen depot
#

144

#

It's 1440p

ripe quest
#

well it shoould be fine

keen depot
#

As well

#

No I'm just thinking on when I should replace it

ripe quest
#

if its not from a wack brand it should last you a long time

keen depot
#

viotek intensifies

ripe quest
#

you shouldnt there is no reason to

desert gulch
#

Are you using hdmi or dp?

keen depot
#

Hdmi

ripe quest
#

cause laptop right?

keen depot
#

Yup

desert gulch
#

Is it rated to run at 144?

keen depot
#

Yes

desert gulch
#

The cable?

keen depot
#

Oh

#

The cable I checked

#

Yes

#

I think it's the laptop port

ripe quest
#

i see no reason to upgrade your monitor

keen depot
#

Not yet

ripe quest
#

ok

keen depot
#

That's not what I'm debating

#

I'm just wondering when I should

ripe quest
#

it seems pretty good

desert gulch
#

280 hz intensifies

ripe quest
#

and it may last a long time

keen depot
#

but my laptop won't

ripe quest
#

well in that case

#

that monitor is still really good

keen depot
#

Eh

#

It's alright

ripe quest
#

well its a 1440p 144hz monitor

keen depot
#

I mean I'm talking about what it is beyond that

ripe quest
#

can they be bad?

keen depot
#

Va

little osprey
#

460hz

ripe quest
#

well if your getting a new pc or something that is capable of hitting 240 hz and you have the budget then get that

#

but for most people 144 hz is fine

keen depot
#

I'm not talking about upgrading it

#

I'm talking about replacing down the line

#

With an ips 1440p 144

ripe quest
#

well when it gets there a lg monitor should be fine

#

i think lg makes 1440p ips 144 hz monitors

#

i cant think of the name off of the top of my head

#

but ill look in pcpp

keen depot
#

I'll probably end up buying acer

ripe quest
#

nope wrong linkl ol

desert gulch
#

Lg makes really high quality monitors

ripe quest
#

^^

desert gulch
#

Their ultragears are super nice

#

Just a little pricey

ripe quest
#

kinda pricey but has everything you wanted

night storm
#

Love my LG 4K OLED tv

ripe quest
#

imagine using a tv to game

#

but

#

yeah

#

i have an lg tv

#

to watch netflix and the colors are great

little osprey
#

TV!

#

FOR GAMING

ripe quest
#

also to play halo

little osprey
#

EWWWW

ripe quest
#

but

#

still

keen depot
#

I regret ever allowing my mother to talk me out of an acer

little osprey
#

lol

cloud oasis
#

I wanna get a aio that looks good if i do get one

keen depot
#

@cloud oasis noctua krakens

keen depot
#

Sorry nzxt

#

Its been a while since I looked at coolers

#

Yeah like that

cloud oasis
#

but i dont wanna pay like 150

vital warren
#

if you wanna break the bank then nzxt sure

keen depot
#

Although that's the most expensive kne

#

One

#

Lol

#

No @vital warren that's asus

vital warren
#

arctic liquid freezer ii is pretty good but doesn't look so nice but it is like $100

#

check out corsair too they might have good options havent checked them in ages

ripe quest
#

i think one of corsairs older aios is cheaper now

cloud oasis
#

Any aio is good

ripe quest
#

no

cloud oasis
#

As long as it looks cool

ripe quest
#

thats wrong

cloud oasis
#

For me

ripe quest
#

ok

night storm
#

Lol

ripe quest
#

well if you get a cheap aio

cloud oasis
#

And under 150

ripe quest
#

theres a good chance itll be dog

#

and youll be better off with an air cooler

night storm
#

Usually decent air is better than cheap aio

desert gulch
ripe quest
#

the temp displays could be really inaccurate

#

just saying

#

because you dont know where they get that info lmao

desert gulch
#

Yeah I just use afterburner

ripe quest
#

^^

desert gulch
#

What do you use?

#

For temps?

ripe quest
#

afterburner

#

lol

#

ok

desert gulch
#

Lol

ripe quest
#

NEVER trust your aio temp display

cloud oasis
#

Yea but it would look coo

ripe quest
#

whats ur pc budget

#

@cloud oasis

cloud oasis
#

Under 2k

#

Cuz i have like 646$ of peripherals

ripe quest
#

ok and im assuming youll have a 3080 in there?

cloud oasis
#

yea

vital warren
#

^^

cloud oasis
#

And zen 3

#

As a base

ripe quest
#

ok

#

you can get b550

cloud oasis
#

nah

ripe quest
#

its cheaper and then if you want get some more expensive rgb ram

cloud oasis
#

the mobo i have rn is good

#

I dont want rgb ram

vital warren
#

asrock b550 phantom when it's $115 is good

ripe quest
#

also you can save like ten bucks on a crucial p1 ssd thats 1tb

cloud oasis
#

And it has to be 2k including the monitor in it

ripe quest
#

oh whoop

#

wrong list

#

i was lookinga t dwellas list that had a 110 dollar ssd

vital warren
#

lol

ripe quest
#

im not familiar with that case but you cant go wrong with a td 500

#

or a phanteks p400a

#

other then that its not bad

cloud oasis
#

i just want a cool looking aio

night storm
#

A 1080 monitor?

vital warren
#

he isn't going to budge on the 280hz 1080p monitor i've tried

cloud oasis
#

Should i just get 144hz

vital warren
#

wow

#

nvm he might budge

night storm
#

Lol well then why does he want feedback

ripe quest
#

well i wouldnt reccomend an x570 board

cloud oasis
#

Why

ripe quest
#

they are more expensive

#

then b550

vital warren
#

can save like $50 on mobo

cloud oasis
#

The aio?

ripe quest
#

yeah if you save 50 bucks on the mobo an aio could be achieved

#

wait crap nvm

#

nope

#

ok

#

you can get a cheaper 144hz monitor

#

and get an aio

vital warren
#

an arctic liquid freezer can be achieved by cutting down on monitor/mobo

ripe quest
#

^^

cloud oasis
#

I want a really good aio if i do get one

vital warren
#

well really good always doesn't look so aesthetically pleasing

cloud oasis
#

like?

#

show me

#

Under 100 tho

vital warren
#

arctic liquid freezer

#

it's around 100

night storm
#

Just get the kraken x63 it checks your boxes

#

Since you want to have temp

ripe quest
#

yeah

#

if its fine to go around 30 dollar over budget go for it

#

you can get some cheaper peripherals and achieve that

#

such as getting the model o over the gpw

cloud oasis
#

hmm

ripe quest
#

which will get you into that range

cloud oasis
#

I could get a cheaper kb

#

Aswell

little osprey
#

hi

cloud oasis
#

Im getting a 130$ one

#

With mx blue

ripe quest
#

ok

#

that would mean ur in the clear for a kraken aio as long as you get b550 and a cheaper monitor

cloud oasis
#

Do different chipset mobos affect performance of a gpu and cpu?

#

Sorry for dumb questions

#

i realised it wasnt hard to build pcs like 2 months ago

#

@ripe quest

ripe quest
#

not really

#

b550 and x570 are basically the same

#

and it doesnt affect performance that much

#

@cloud oasis

cloud oasis
#

What are the differences

#

Or should i run a custom loop

#

Would that cost more?

ripe quest
#

that would cost a lot more

#

x570 is a bit faster then b550

#

honestly if you simply get a cheaper mouse and keeb along with monitor its gonna be fine

cloud oasis
#

i want 165hz monitor then

#

Ips panel

#

u recommend any cheap ones

ripe quest
#

well there is no noticeable differnce between 144 and 165

#

idk man monitors i dont know much about

cloud oasis
#

Not bad

little leaf
#

150 on a aio lol

#

And a non 1440p monitor for a 3080

#

Ok first

#

No aio

#

X570 useless

#

Since you dont have any 4th gen ssds

foggy hazel
#

@cloud oasis good job, you just hit the 30th time you posted a pcpp link to your own build.

cloud oasis
#

What air cpu cooler should i get

foggy hazel
#

stock

cloud oasis
#

ok

foggy hazel
#

this is the third time i have answered you on this.

cloud oasis
#

Also where da 4th gen ssds at

little leaf
#

Free>cooler

cloud oasis
#

sorry im just really paranoid

#

I dont wanna mess this up

little leaf
#

Pcie gen4 ssds are not needed

cloud oasis
#

Like i really really dont

#

Also i have xtra money and might wanna do coding and stuff in the future soo

little leaf
#

Ok no stop

#

The list before was fine get rid of the aio

cloud oasis
#

There is no aio

little leaf
little osprey
little leaf
#

Dont get an aio

#

And wait for 3070

foggy hazel
#

keep in mind, i have removed the HDD (for budget reasons)

#

and yes, you really should wait for the 3070 if you can

#

and the list i linked has a PSU that is actually good

#

the ram has been upgrade

#

the CPU has been upgrade from 6 to 8 cores

#

the mainboard has been upgraded to something that helps give you next gen cpu support 100%

#

But, perhaps most importantly, when are you planning to build?

little osprey
#

like december @foggy hazel

#

3070 is out of budget

#

btw budget is 2100 aud

foggy hazel
#

then come back 2 weeks before you are ready to buy

#

making a list "now" is as close to useless as it goes

#

things will have changed WAY too much by then

#

heck, amd will have both a new series of CPU's on the market and GPU's on the market, by the time you will be building

#

so for your own sake, please wait.

#

@little osprey see above

little osprey
#

okely dokely

unreal ermine
#

I'm looking to build a pc. I haven't build one in a while and I'm not familiar with the most recent parts, any suggestions. Budget $2000

vital warren
#

What are you looking to do with the pc, is it for gaming or will it be more workstation focused?

unreal ermine
#

A little bit of everything

vital warren
#

i'll try to throw together a list

#

is rgb a necessity ?

unreal ermine
#

Thanks, I really don't care for rgb

vital warren
#

alright

#

oh also do you need a monitor + peripherals or just the pc itself?

unreal ermine
#

Just the pc

vital warren
#

alright

#

The new zen 3 cpus (amd) are being announced on october 8th so i'd wait and check that out

#

I picked a random 3080 model but there is a lot more aftermarket models i'd take a look at as well

unreal ermine
#

@vital warren thanks. I'll give it a look and keep an eye on the new cpu

ionic topaz
#

guys ive 2 samsung 970 evo m.2 nvme is it work in asrock b460 phantom gaming 4?

analog hearth
#

I have*

ionic topaz
#

thx

analog hearth
#

you'll be able to use only one of those SSDs, as the motherboard only has one M.2 slot for storage

ionic topaz
#

can i use one m.2 and one ssd 2.5 for system?

analog hearth
#

Yes

ionic topaz
#

thank you

topaz plank
#

Hi, I'm looking into buying a gaming PC but dont know where to start. I'm really knew to this and I would like to keep the build around 900-1000.

night storm
#

Is that including monitor, keyboard. Mouse? Or do you have that already?

topaz plank
#

i have that already

stoic island
night storm
#

Yup

#

For your budget probably AMD CPU is best bang for buck

stoic island
#

I'll make a list

topaz plank
#

thanks y'all

night storm
#

Thrown everything at this HDMI issue, pretty sure Something physically wrong on motherboard now. Sent help ticket to MSI

stoic island
#

@topaz plank do you need wifi?

#

or do you use ethernet

#

(Ethernet>Wifi for connection whenever possible)

topaz plank
#

alright perfect

stoic island
#

uhh

night storm
#

Is that a yes don’t need wifi?

stoic island
#

what do you use?

topaz plank
#

oh sorry

#

i have wifi

stoic island
#

Ethernet is always preferred, but some people are in the opposite side of the house from the router

#

Can you use ethernet, or do you need to have a wifi adapter on the PC?

#

Because wifi capabilities aren't always built in

topaz plank
#

oh

#

i will need to have a wifi adapter

stoic island
#

How much storage do you think you need?

#

or do you just want me to slap in what the average person uses

topaz plank
#

just the usual

stoic island
#

back

topaz plank
#

wow

#

that looks really good

stoic island
#

@cursive wharf you around? iirc you had a cheaper way for mobo+wireless adapter, and if I could shave the 10$ there I can get better psu/ram easily

cursive wharf
#

ye, one sec. Never really have all the things saved

#

well, actually looking at list - eh.
It was more like cheaper for the high quality. If going as budget as possible then hard to save

stoic island
#

?

#

anyways you can make your edits too

cursive wharf
#

As in - pay $135 for higher quality mobo/WiFi combo

stoic island
#

I went 2060s because easy to work with imo, 5700xt can work too maybe.