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spiral zealot
past geyser
Hmph
ember sierra
Ahh
spiral zealot
but you can just crop the https off
and it might work
it won't be clickable, but we can copy/paste lol
past geyser
It’s my part list
Of course i’m getting it in a few months
So things will be switched out
And I can save up for better parts in the future like anyone else
spiral zealot
right away i would say don't get that 580, way too expensive
and you probably don't need an SFX power supply with a mid tower case
those are really designed for tiny small form factor builds
you can also rebuild that list into an interactive list on pcpartpicker
then people can tweak and re-share updated versions
past geyser
Yesh
And those things are probably gonna get switched in the next few months anyways
spiral zealot
@ember sierra I also tweaked the list a little, swapped in lower latency memory, expanded the storage slightly, and changed out the PSU, 20 euros cheaper but non-modular (which is totally just a personal preference after using that PSU in like 3 builds) - https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/byQNJb
ember sierra
Much appreciated
cunning knoll
which gpu would be betterhttps://www.newegg.com/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-xt-axrx-5700xt-8gbd6-3dhe-oc/p/N82E16814131752 vs https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-5700-xt-100416p8gl/p/N82E16814202349
spiral zealot
sapphire usually tends to do better when it comes to noise/thermals
cunning knoll
are the triple fans worth it?
deep skiff
pulse has worse worse cooling
spiral zealot
not on the 5700XT, i thought they had the better setup
i remember watching a GN video about it
deep skiff
pulse has meh thermals
spiral zealot
or was that the nitro that was better
spiral zealot
i just remember sapphire being one of the better ones in some variation
deep skiff
id go with the gigabyte windforce its like 410 rn for pretty decent cooling or wait and get a 3070
spiral zealot
yeah, my original recommendation was to wait for either 3070 or RDNA2, depending on what ends up being the better option at that point
muted wasp
why donjt you get a 2070 Super for the same price
spiral zealot
but if you have to buy now and you aren't streaming, a 5700XT is a solid choice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5McVc0SQMHU gamersnexus did a full roundup of a bunch of 5700XT cards
deep skiff
yuh id wait for the new gen cards
muted wasp
But if you can wait for a month or so /// Then hold out and get a 3070
late pilot
would this be good for a b450 tomahawk max? https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-dual-band-ac750-wireless-pci-express-network-card-black/6353954.p?skuId=6353954&ref=212&loc=1&ref=212&loc=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIz7-gxtDz6wIVARLnCh1ZIQzIEAQYBCABEgK8-_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
prisma stag
is ryzen 9 3900x worth the extra $120 over the ryzen 7 3700x, like would i see much difference just for gaming?
spiral zealot
@cunning knoll if you can't wait for the GPU, that's solid
prisma stag
@late pilot yo have you checkeed out the ASUS TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi)
late pilot
let me check it out
prisma stag
its got built in wifi and is about same price as the b450 and that wifi card together
prisma stag
darn tried haha, im not much help. I just know what has been suggested to me so I thought it might help you
muted wasp
what about the GIGABYTE B550 AORUS PRO AC AM4 AMD B550 ATX
The MSI MAG B550M MORTAR WIFI AM4 AMD B550 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard is a solid choice as well with intergrated wifi
@late pilot the MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI AM4 AMD X570 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard is 159 and a full featured board as well
late pilot
thats 200
muted wasp
yeah sorry the one i saw was refurb
the mortar wifi , the b550 aorus pro ac,
and the tomahawk b550 if you can do 175 are all solid boards with wifi 6 intergrated
muted wasp
your spending 160 with the board and wifi card tho - those do not require wifi addon cards
muted wasp
get Custom Cable Extensions
granite delta
@late pilot u need a wifi board?
elfin urchin
Question for anyone, built a low end pc for my brother worked fine for about a month. Is not getting no signal on moniter. Reseated ram and gpu as well as a new hdmi cable still nothing any ideas?
cursive kernel
Do the actual ports (input on monitor and output on PC) themselves work? Have you tested the monitor on another device to make sure it’s not on the monitor end?
prisma stag
970evo vs 970evoplus ssd??
vital warren
ones plus
elfin urchin
@cursive kernel yes I tested moniter on my pc
cursive kernel
Okay so that eliminates from HDMI cable to monitor. Now start working backwards. Has the port gone bad on the PC?
cursive kernel
I don’t know much on computers
I just know about eliminating wiring problems and am just trying to think of the circuit route in my head
late kelp
whats a budget ish mobo to pair with a Ryzen 7 3700X with on board wifi...? plan to use a 3070 also I picked out the Asus Tuf X570 i think it is but its nearly $200 idk if there is better bang for buck
prisma stag
do yall use optical or hdmi?
little leaf
late kelp
thank you
robust plover
What are the slots for dual channel for the b450m ds3h board
real merlin
is g413 a good keyboard for budget peripherals? i want mechanical but dont want mechanical price tag
formal axle
I got my fans working so much yay !!!
night storm
Congrats, hope you didn’t knock your tooth out
formal axle
no i make sure to my dentures out
boreal geode
I will never again order anything from Gigabyte, I had a board i ordered and it had all kinds of issues and they were not helpful at all. Fortunately I was able to get a refund on the Board, so now I need a replacement. I already have the rest of the Build but looking for suggestions on Motherboard. I have an AMD Ryzen 5 3600X processor and an Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti Card, any suggestions?
cunning knoll
whats a good ssd to get? im thinking about the Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
cunning knoll
what about the SK hynix Gold S31 1TB 3D NAND 2.5 inch SATA III Internal SSD - up to 560MB/s?
boreal geode
Any suggestion on Motherboard Question I posted earlier?
stoic island
NVMe drives are in a different league compared to sata drives.
@boreal geode Can't remember Mobo pricing too well, iirc B550 Phantom gaming 4 for 115$
boreal geode
What's difference between B450 and B550 Chipset?
stoic island
Looks like prices went to crap on that...
Pcie 4.0 support is the main thing
Some other little upsides here and there
boreal geode
Manufacturer Wise, MSi, Asus, ASRock...any suggestions?
stoic island
I'd focus on the model themselves personally
Every company makes good and bad products
But anyways I guess a MSI B550-a pro is decent at 140$ rn.
boreal geode
Does 3600X have APU? I am reading that the B550 will not work with Ryzen 3000 APUs, course I have the Nvidia 1080, but don't like having things left out
silk locust
Purely cpu
stoic island
Only G chips are APUs.
boreal geode
nerf, you have any suggestions for a MoBo, I'm trying to keep price around $100, any B550 boards around that price range?
stoic island
B550 ds3h and B550m pro-vdh wifi
boreal geode
ds3h, is that Gigabyte? My model # was very close and I will not get a Gigabyte again
stoic island
Yes.
boreal geode
The Msi Board doesn't seem to be rated very well
boreal geode
just on New Egg
stoic island
Anyways, I kinda ignore consumer reviews and look at specs and such :p
DoA does not reflect anything on the product itself
boreal geode
A bunch of reviews said wouldn't post with 3600
stoic island
If it doesn't work, send it back, simple enough.
Eh, not in a position to dig much deeper on mobile, people don't have any issues with that motherboard + 3600 on pcpp.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PDsnTW/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi
boreal geode
Also, on Memory, DDR4 2933 vs 3200, is basic difference overclocking ability?
stoic island
With 3rd gen Ryzen, the real question is 3200mhz vs 3600mhz.
And it does benefit a good bit from 3600mhz.
boreal geode
b550 vs x570 do you know difference there?
looks like x570 has the pcie 4.0 support
is PCIe backwards compatible?
night storm
Yes it’s backward compatible intel does not have 4.0. X570 does they can both run same video cards
boreal geode
wil x570 work with R5 3600x?
pastel abyss
I just bought a B550 and I'm having trouble with it as I type
it does have pcie4. one of the main reasons I got it.
you're talking the MSI Mag tomahawk right?
just scrolled up
my bad
but the https://www.newegg.com/msi-mag-b550-tomahawk/p/N82E16813144326?Item=N82E16813144326 is why I'm here...
it's giving 3 beeps as a ram error. I bought https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374003?Item=N82E16820374003
neither stick will post in slot 2. they wont post in 1, 3, or 4 either. I've tried resetting the cmos and updating the bios via usb
boreal geode
I need to get a new MoBo for use with Ryzen5 3600x and nvidia GTX 1080 Ti
and like future upgradeability
pastel abyss
heh, I have a PNY 1080 founders I'm going to use in this build.
IF it actually turns on
I bought the AMD RYZEN 9 3900X
did fresh mobo/cpu/fan/ram for $900
boreal geode
I understand, I remember having issues when i first hooked it together, think I missed a 4, or 6 pin connector on the Board, lol, 1st build in like 15 years!
boreal geode
that was months ago, i can't even remember now
pastel abyss
Help me JusticeB KenoB, you're my only hope
boreal geode
Can you use voice?
boreal geode
give me your Board and PS
there's also a connector for my 1080, let me go grab it and look
polar prism
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wZT727 Is this a good build? thinking about ordering soon
pastel abyss
I would NOT recommend that ram
buy a single stick of 16gb before 2x8.
you'll be able to buy more ram at 16gb and max at 64gb instead of 32.
you might want to try and find a single stick of 32gb, as that's what your mobo kinda wants
32x4=128
polar prism
Thats fair, I wouldnt ever need that much tho no?
pastel abyss
so, most peeps would say 16gb for gaming
I like to dual monitor with internets open on the other tv
boreal geode
That build has same SSD I Have
pastel abyss
so I want another 16gb for firefox
😛
but the single stick of 16 should be about the same price I'd think
polar prism
I wont have more than two for what I need haha I am just trying to run my 1440p 165hz on ultra everything
boreal geode
I think 16 is enough for most, but really depends on usage, I've alwalys used dual channel, so not sure how a single Mem Card would do
pastel abyss
but 2x8 on a 128gb mobo?
seems like you'd want to be upgrading all the sticks, or end up with like 2x16 and 2x8
boreal geode
Better to have memory you don't neeed, than need memory you don't have, I'd suggest 2x16 if you're unsure
polar prism
Yeah I could probably do with more. Im not sure if I want to spend that much on ram yet but I might
How are Be Quiet PSU's? It seems the PSU is the hard part to figure out
desert gulch
Is this gonna be an Intel build?
pastel abyss
it's not as fast as your ram you selected I think
polar prism
No ryzen 7
desert gulch
Yeah get faster ram
boreal geode
I exclusively use ThermalTake PSs but I'm sure there's a lot of other brands that are good
desert gulch
3000 for ryzen is pitiful
pastel abyss
desert gulch
Aim for 3200-3600 cl16 if you can
pastel abyss
your ram in 1 stick and it's a tiny bit cheaper
polar prism
Yeah that'll work
desert gulch
So is he gonna buy 2 sticks to start with?
pastel abyss
was think 2x8 yeah
polar prism
I was looking at 2x8 3600
desert gulch
Ripjaws grill makes a 2x8 for like 75 bucks
pastel abyss
I suggested doing 1x16 to get the most out of the mobo later on
polar prism
Mostly. I do work that uses remote pcs and excel but its not THAT intensiv
desert gulch
Yeah I have 16 gigs and I game and the only time ive run into I need more ram is msf2020
But 32 gigs would easily been enough for me
polar prism
I will not be getting that game lol. Even with a 3080 itll killlll
boreal geode
"Is 32GB overkill? In general, yes. The only real reason an average user would need 32GB is for future proofing. As far as just simply gaming goes, 16GB is plenty, and really, you can get by just fine with 8GB"
celest horizon
Get 3600 mhz ram for ryzen zen2
boreal geode
thart was from PCGamer
polar prism
Im looking to get the best CPU-MB-GPU I can for the money and get more storage later
pastel abyss
that 3070 tho
polar prism
And 8gbs is wayyyy to little for my build, but a $800-1000 could I think
Eh, 3080 will be easier to get sooner
pastel abyss
I did a pc waaaay back in like 2002 that ended up with like 2x2 and 2x4 sticks. I regertted the 2x2.
no regerts man
polar prism
Im thinking this next run of 3080s I can get one, if not Ill try the next week
boreal geode
I feel Memory is one of the cheapest increases in price that makes most difference
pastel abyss
any of the 3rd parties standing out yet??
polar prism
MSI, EVGA, and one gigabyte one are the most solid so far it seems
polar prism
EVGA is basically an FE with better fans and will be easier to get
MSI too expensive
Gigabyte is ugly to me'
boreal geode
Odb, are you going to return the tomahawk ...I feel ASUS are best MoBos out there, I will never again get Gigabyte, their CS is terrible
pastel abyss
who'd have thought to test G Skill ripjaw with their mobo??
I got a friend who's willing to let me test a ddr4 like 2800 in it tomorrow
I gotta find out if it's the ram or mobo. but I highly doubt it's the ram
I mean both sticks DOA??
severely disappointed the msi forum is trying to get access to my contacts to join.
I dont even want to create a throw-away acct for it. they just shouldn't do that crap
desert gulch
Obd what slots was ram in?
desert gulch
Oof
pastel abyss
then 2, then the other one in 2, then 1, then 3, then 4
desert gulch
Did you try just booting with one stick?
pastel abyss
then the other one in 1, 3, and 4
8 times yeah
well now, about 20x
I've reset the cmos and updated the bios like 3x
desert gulch
Was is safisfying to install?
pastel abyss
the clicks, yeah
desert gulch
I love installing ram lmao
pastel abyss
SSSSSSSNAP!
desert gulch
Yes
boreal geode
Pin test for MoBo Connections...front panel connectors Have 5 connectors for 8 plugs...24 Pin ATX Power connector, 8 Pin CPU Power Connector,6 pin connector on GPU, those are all primary connections,
pastel abyss
^^^ is good
boreal geode
Also, what Bios does your board have?
pastel abyss
I was actually thinking I might want to pull the front panel wires and only have power connected at this point
right now right now, MAG B550 TOMAHAWK (MS-7C91) V10.3 BIOS Release
I've already tried 10.4
I was thinking about dl'ing the older one and testing next
I think if it's the mobo, I should get MSI to send me some artic silver. literally used the last bit I had
boreal geode
If it's not booting up, I wouldn't worry about your Thermal paste yet, as long as processor is connected to a fair degree it will usually run for few minutes without issue, try only single Memory card in in DIMMA2 Slot
pastel abyss
done did that for the last 12 boots
boreal geode
Switching Memory cards?
pastel abyss
if it's the mobo, I gotta rma it and take the cpu out. which means I gotta redo the paste .__.
yeah. after each cmos rest and bios flash
boreal geode
Have you cleared CMOS?
pastel abyss
yeaup. 3 or 4x
boreal geode
ok, was late, lol
pastel abyss
I'm just going to have to wait for this other stick todarrow I guess
my buddy gets home in 15h
boreal geode
I doubt you have 2 bad memory cards, could happen, but unlikely
pastel abyss
yeah that's what I'm saying. I'm almost tempted to ask to see if it'll work in his Dell
but idk how proprietary they are about their stuff
pastel abyss
lol for a second I thought you were going spongebob lol
no 2nd psu. but there's no way this one's at fault. I don't think I've ever drawn 600w off it
boreal geode
when I have issues, I usually pull board out of case and stick it on a piece of cardboard or something and hook it up external to case
pastel abyss
trying to decide the level of flames if the mobo is doa
newegg's packaging was fine
boreal geode
15 Seconds with Propane torch ought to do!
pastel abyss
the box was 100% pristine when I opened it. went into place flawless
cunning knoll
G.Skill 16GB DDR4 Trident Z Royal Silver 3200Mhz PC4-25600 CL16 1.35V Dual Channel Kit (2x8GB) worth it?
boreal geode
The Gigabyte I had booted fine, except couldn't see Sata drive and the 3.1 USB were seen as 2.0s
pastel abyss
the royal is just for plexi cases, imho
I'm not looking in my case unless I'm adding a hdd or more ram
Justice, that just sounds like driver issues
I'm almost tempted to buy a 2nd B550 and have it shipped before the rma
boreal geode
I didn't even mess with Sata as SSD was working, but Tried every driver i could for the USBs but Gigabyte said it was MB issue
I ordered all the stuff for this Build, but I already have a new Laptop with an intel i7 10750 and an RTX 2070 Max Q so I'm trying to decide if I should get a new MoBo , rebuild it and sell it or see if I can get a refund on most of the parts
little osprey
@boreal geode are you like 40
still roostBOT
Houdini2464#2256 has been warned
foggy hazel
@little osprey keep content like that to #general-chat
night storm
Need that 3080 to fill this big open spot
It was fun building in the sliger, seems like good quality and that they put a ton of effort into designing it
Y’all use twist ties, zip ties, or hook and hoop fasteners for cable management?
analog hearth
I prefer hook-and-hoop and cable ties
Zip ties are great, but not permanent if you need to make a change. And twist ties aren’t great at all in my experience
viral ore
zip ties suuuuuck
also
@velvet moon you just not gonna cool your vrms or what?
i mean sure, it'll act as a fine heat soak for the first hour or so of use
but then what? lol
night storm
He’s still got fans blowing, you think temps will still get too hot?
viral ore
its not a heatsink
so the fans do very little in terms of cooling it
its a small, mostly solid block of aluminum/copper
with a plastic shroud
night storm
Mm makes sense
night storm
Maybe he is going to now submerge the whole thing in an oil bath
viral ore
lmao
toxic plume
i just recommended someone go Ryzen 7 3800xt instead of a 10700k, for a Gaming/VR build. Did i make a bad recommendation?
hey guys
@prisma stag
You can make your own using the windows 10 media creation tool
stoic island
At what budget
toxic plume
~$1500
toxic plume
it was the best i could find at a similar price to the 10700k
stoic island
3800xt is just slapping on even more money for like 200mhz boost clock
toxic plume
actually $60 cheaper
stoic island
For gaming, 10600k in a 1500$ can be a pretty good idea.
Just gaming, you don't need 8c16t
wintry nebula
I want to get a 3080 but I don’t know if I need to upgrade anything can someone help?
vital warren
what’s ya specs
wintry nebula
My current build do I need to change anything if I want to run a 3080
foggy hazel
nah, you should be good to go
little leaf
thats a pretty sick build
wintry nebula
Great I was like damn I invested all this money and than Nvidia uppercut me with the 3000 series 😂
My buddy help me build it I just was the bank account lol he was the brains behind the build
foggy hazel
i hope it is being used for actual work as the main focus
because you are allowed to give him a very solid kick between the legs if your main focus is gaming
latent niche
Yo hello
I press the power button on my pc and it doesn’t turn on
It was working perfectly fine last night
Idk why it won’t work rn
boreal geode
Desktop? Got lights coming on at all? my 1st thought is Power Supply switch is turned off
limpid snow
I finally did it, The 980ti is just a placeholder for the 3080. I held off on custom sleeved cables for now because I’m gonna wait to see which 3080 I’ll end up getting.
calm helm
Hi everyone,
I am finalizing my build, I'd like to have your opinion on its coherence, if everything makes sense according to you,
You can find it here: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Bob35/saved/DzVfvK
thanks in advance
calm helm
here you go: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/hJ3GvW
foggy hazel
you want tighter timings on your ram @calm helm
calm helm
what would you recommend ?
polar prism
@limpid snow what MB is that?
foggy hazel
@calm helm https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/BZwqqs/gskill-ripjaws-v-series-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl14-memory-f4-3200c14d-32gvk <- something like that would be a better fit imo for you
calm helm
@foggy hazel , updated
appart from RAM, do CPU / motherboard / cooling look fine to you ?
foggy hazel
@calm helm is there any particular reason for that PSU?
calm helm
well, I was looking at a EVGA G2 850, they seem out of stock
foggy hazel
give me a couple of minutes @calm helm
woven wedge
Nice @limpid snow
foggy hazel
@little osprey have patience. And random friend requests are not appreciated either.
polar prism
Yeah should i use a be quiet psu or evga?
foggy hazel
@warm pilot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-KjQ_sf2GE <- watch
foggy hazel
@calm helm and yes, everything else looks fine. Availability is really bad in canada at the moment.
calm helm
but overkill
foggy hazel
basically yes
but that is how it is when there isnt something available
anything else you want to ask about @calm helm ?
calm helm
give me a sec, I have other PSUs in mind I'd like to share with you
foggy hazel
fair enough
polar prism
Thank you! Great build btw
calm helm
I have this one : Corsair CP-9020180-NA RMX Series RM850x 80
foggy hazel
@little osprey re: psu: you dont need a 850w for that build. But you really should consider reading up on what makes a ssd good.
and ram timings
and overpriced mainboards
limpid snow
oops lol
calm helm
calm helm
Ok, I am gonna go with it
foggy hazel
@calm helm fair enough, enjoy the build, give a shout when you have the parts IF you need help :)
@little osprey i would strongly recommend that you read up on the things i listed above.
calm helm
much appreciated Naed, thanks
foggy hazel
you are very welcome @calm helm
limpid snow
@calm helm Keep an eye on this one. It's not a well known brand but it's solid. I did a lot of research on it before I bought it, and it's pretty much an EVGA PSU. It usually goes on sale for $130... that's a steal for a 850 watt in this day and age. I got it for $130 during the Labor Day weekend sale and I just used it in my new build. https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-iii-sf-850f14hg-850w/p/1HU-024C-00005?Item=9SIAMNPAY43503
foggy hazel
@limpid snow canada
limpid snow
Ahhhhhh my bad
calm helm
Yup
foggy hazel
no worries, appreciate the feedback/input @limpid snow :)
limpid snow
@foggy hazel Yezzir 🙏
foggy hazel
@tired turtle any chance of having a picture of the back of your monitors ? that shows the arm setup you are doing?
calm helm
Thanks fro your help Naed, I've just placed my order;)
Last question / confirmation: do I need any extra fan / cable or missing pieces in order to build it ? (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g4cLWb)
foggy hazel
nah, you should be okay
foggy hazel
@calm helm you have 3 fans included with the case, so you are good to go
stone meteor
anyone?
calm helm
Thanks guys
foggy hazel
you are very welcome @calm helm :)
flint maple
Yo guys
Can someone make me a pc build for a budget of $1000
Like straight 1000 not higher not lower
shell wind
can someone help me
deep skiff
shell wind
not everything came
i need to know if i can start putting somethings together
from what came
foggy hazel
we cannot read your mind
shell wind
can i tell you what came
foggy hazel
if you do it here? yes
foggy hazel
typing it out would have saved you a lot of time.
shell wind
deep skiff
yes
foggy hazel
from a "testing if it works" pov? no.
cunning knoll
how does this look https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xqGMPn ? any reccomendations
foggy hazel
that is all you need to start testing.
shell wind
testing?
foggy hazel
unless you are also waiting on a case
@shell wind yes, testing if the parts actually work.
shell wind
i cant build it without a case right?
shell wind
and testing means seeing if everything works not hooking it up to a monitir to playgames?
@foggy hazel
foggy hazel
@shell wind we cannot read your mind
shell wind
WHAT MIND READING DO U HAVE TO DO
night storm
We can’t read your mind
foggy hazel
and there is zero need for yelling @shell wind
night storm
Actually there is zero Naed for yelling
foggy hazel
less dad jokes @night storm
night storm
😂
shell wind
instead of telling me u cant read my mind tell me whats not clear
foggy hazel
list what you have actually ordered
tell us what your actual plans are
because we cannot know this
shell wind
to build a pc
foggy hazel
because.....we cannot read your mind.
actual link to a list instead.
or a message with all the parts typed in
shell wind
i dont have the link saved its somewhere above
foggy hazel
then go find it or type the parts in again
cunning knoll
what ram do you recommend?
foggy hazel
2sec @cunning knoll
cunning knoll
k
foggy hazel
your total budget is 1000 usd @cunning knoll ?
cunning knoll
i could go to 1.1
prisma stag
I've got 3 questions lol i know i ask a bunch of questions but would someone be able to answer 3 for me
tired turtle
@tired turtle any chance of having a picture of the back of your monitors ? that shows the arm setup you are doing?
@foggy hazel you do NOT want to see thatthis stacked layout is a test, I’m using double sided tape so the bottom monitor doesn’t slip and leaning it against the top monitor I will be ordering a real mount actually I’m going to do that now 😅
One sec I’ll send a pic
shell wind
so the six putires came
foggy hazel
that is actually exactly what i want to see @tired turtle but you dont have to share it in public if you dont want to :)
shell wind
and waiting on the case and procceser
tired turtle
tired turtle
My mount is a dual monitor mount for side by side
foggy hazel
thank you @tired turtle
tired turtle
👍😋
prisma stag
Naed Ive got 2 questions for you homie
shell wind
i have the six picures i send above and am wating on the case and the processer. i want to know if the six pictures, the case and proccecer is all i need to bnuild a pc.
@foggy hazel
just confiming
foggy hazel
@shell wind your answer is above
cunning knoll
was recommeded another 5700xt and found the best 5700 xt
prisma stag
- What is a good 750w power supply to use? 2. Can someone link me to where I can buy windows 10 on a usb? @foggy hazel
shell wind
im just comfiming you dont need to rub it in my face that i dont know that much about pcs
foggy hazel
@prisma stag re: os: look in #windows-ios
@shell wind in case you have not noticed. I am not the one yelling
shell wind
ur calling me dumb basically
vital warren
he's not
shell wind
but i dont want to start somthibng
prisma stag
Sunday he trying to help you
vital warren
he already answered your question
foggy hazel
@shell wind best of luck with your build. I think we are done here.
foggy hazel
@prisma stag when i am done with the other users i will get to you.
prisma stag
Ok
vital warren
corsair rmx 750w is good
shell wind
so i need a proseser to start putting things together, there is nothing to attach becuase someone told me in this chat yesterday that there was somthing i could do?
vital warren
yeah that psu will be quiet no worries
the rmx psus from them are good and reliable
prisma stag
awesome brotha thanks
im ordering one now
if i can find one instock, newegg out of stock
urban verge
PSU demand is through the roof rn.
vital warren
I think the 850w rmx is only a few bucks more if you want a little extra power
foggy hazel
@vital warren could you grab the pcpp link for him?
vital warren
yeah one sec
foggy hazel
thank you
prisma stag
dwella would extra power hurt anything?
shell wind
@foggy hazel so i need a proseser to start putting things together, there is nothing to attach becuase someone told me in this chat yesterday that there was somthing i could do?
foggy hazel
i have nothing to offer you @shell wind, you talked yourself out of my help.
shell wind
i never said i didint want your help. i said that your supossed to be helping me not telling me that you cant read my mind becuase im slow at this. i want your help! @foggy hazel
foggy hazel
@cunning knoll you willing to buy a used GPU?
prisma stag
Cheers dwella! Just purcahsed the 850 went ahead and upgraded 100w for 5 bucks. Thanks man @vital warren
cunning knoll
this prob is a dumb question but will it work the same?
foggy hazel
reason i ask is that "right now" is not a bad time to do that
foggy hazel
@cunning knoll yes. it would. As long as you get one that still has warranty
vital warren
message me whenever i don't mind
shell wind
Will anyone work with me or should i leave
cunning knoll
then id be open to it
foggy hazel
the reasoning is this: IF you can get a second hand GPU, you will be able to get a better cpu, and a better psu and imo a better case and still be below 1100
vital warren
compared to some people in this server @prisma stag i know little to none about computers, so i'm sorry if I cant answer some of those questions you ask
prisma stag
All good man, I know absolutely nothing lol im just tackling my first build and full of questions, most of them being stupid questions like wondering if hdmi is still superior for video lolol
cunning knoll
could you maybe switch out the parts for me? i have no idea what im doing
vital warren
Pretty sure hdmi is on top rn not sure
isn't hdmi 2.1 relatively new
gimmedat i'd check ebay/fb marketplace for maybe a used 2080s/2080ti as some people are selling them for that cheap
foggy hazel
2.1 is the one in the 3080 card, and yes, that is the faster one right now <- for you @vital warren
i am working on a new list for you right now @cunning knoll
cunning knoll
thank you os much
balmy pagoda
essay incoming
foggy hazel
@cunning knoll scratch the second hand idea, this can work without going that route
cunning knoll
ok
shell wind
@foggy hazel
vital warren
you don't have to keep tagging him, he already had answered your question and said he's done helping you
foggy hazel
@balmy pagoda do note, if you have links in it, the bot will eat it
balmy pagoda
i am looking to upgrade my gpu around christmas time. my current rig is:
gtx 1050 (non Ti)
ryzen 5 2600
8gb ddr4 2666mhz
a320m s2h MOBO
i have no interest of the looks of my pc, just performance i came here to ask you guys what graphics card i should get. i was thinking a 1660 ti and have a price range of about <£250. i would use it for gaming, more specifically rainbow six siege if that matters. my rig is bad and i know so please don't hate.
any advice would be greatly appreciated 😄 (vc, dm or here is fine)
shell wind
@vital warren do you wanna help me
vital warren
well my knowledge is limited so depends on the question so sure i'll try
shell wind
thanks
foggy hazel
@balmy pagoda quick question: what psu?
shell wind
@vital warren i recived some items today for my pc i am wondering if i should put some stuff together or wait till everthing comes
foggy hazel
could you try and figure it out @balmy pagoda (its a fairly important thing to know)
@cunning knoll https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2hfLWb
vital warren
what parts do you have sunday?
foggy hazel
@cunning knoll keep in mind, i have taken out the 2tb drive. to get the budget for a good psu and an actual case.
shell wind
@vital warren i attached six picures in a row about 15 min ago i could do it again?
vital warren
i'll go take a look
shell wind
@vital warren thanks for helping me
cunning knoll
was the ssd not good i was reading stuff about it?
cloud oasis
msi bios is aids
foggy hazel
@cunning knoll the psu is not really up for debate. The case however is :) , also, re: 2tb hdd: This is something that can be added in later on, it will take you about 2-3 minutes to do.
@cunning knoll re: ssd: this one is the same performance etc. just a bit cheaper
shell wind
all im missing is the case and prossser i think@vital warren
cloud oasis
balmy pagoda
is there a way to find out powersupply without taking apart my pc?
balmy pagoda
ooh i can check where i bought it from
vital warren
There is some things you can do, like put ram on the mobo and put the ssd on the mobo but I would just wait until you have everything
foggy hazel
@balmy pagoda if you still have it (the info), then yes.
balmy pagoda
i believe so
cloud oasis
shell wind
okay thanks
cunning knoll
ok cool the cpu you put in was the one i had before but someoe recommended me to change it to put more money into a better gpu
cloud oasis
Is my list not bad
vital warren
I'd wait because you'd probably feel a lot better having everything and you don't want the components getting all dusty waiting for that cpu/case
cloud oasis
I think it is 
foggy hazel
@cunning knoll aye, and that in theory also did make sense.
but the other changes all adds up, plus the adjusted leeway in the budget = the list you are seeing now :)
cunning knoll
what was the reasoning for change in power supply as well?
thanks for your help btw
foggy hazel
the BR is just bad imo
vital warren
cntrl you can def get a 1440p monitor with a 3080
cloud oasis
Ew
vital warren
unless you prefer 1080p and higher frames
cloud oasis
i dont like 1440p
shell wind
ok thanks @vital warren for the help
foggy hazel
and the AMP is a psu with a 10 year warranty on it @cunning knoll
balmy pagoda
i believe it is 450W non modular @foggy hazel
cloud oasis
im tryna play games
foggy hazel
@balmy pagoda no brand/model name on it?
cunning knoll
ok good to know
balmy pagoda
not sure sorry
vital warren
You can def save around 50 bucks on the psu
vital warren
and i would wait for october 8th as zen 3 is being announced then
foggy hazel
@balmy pagoda okay, then i would STRONGLY suggest that you upgrade that at the same time
balmy pagoda
how much and which one
foggy hazel
@balmy pagoda this ofc depends entirely on which GPU you end up with :)
cloud oasis
Also should i use stock cooler
balmy pagoda
i was thinking around 1660ti but that's why i came here so its open for debate
advice is greatly appreciated
vital warren
stock cooler will work fine just might be a little loud
foggy hazel
@balmy pagoda any reluctance to second hand?
cloud oasis
Airflow isnt that bad anyways
cunning knoll
everything will fit in the case and will i need to buy anything extra?
balmy pagoda
not really but amazon is where i would buy it @foggy hazel
foggy hazel
let me just have a look around on the UK version of PCPP
cloud oasis
Also im getting 646$ of other stuff with the pc
little osprey
i bought this mother board MSI MPG Z490 GAMING CARBON WIFI LGA 1200 Intel Z490 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard and want to know if my current memory witll work with it CORSAIR Vengeance RGB DRAM 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 3333 (PC4 26600) Desktop Memory Model CMR32GX4M2C3333C16 or should i buy new memory
u can check the motherboard memory list
but yea
vital warren
That will work
little osprey
it should
foggy hazel
@balmy pagoda hmm, 1660ti does indeed seem like the thing for that budget
balmy pagoda
that's what i was thinking, what psu should i buy?
vital warren
you probably can cut down on peripherals a little bit
foggy hazel
@balmy pagoda what you need to figure out is IF you have a 8pin pci-e connector on your psu.
it looks like that
cloud oasis
Ok heres what im getting
vital warren
my peripherals for my new build will cost me 600 including 1440p monitor
foggy hazel
and it splits into a 6+2 @balmy pagoda
if you dont have that, you will need a new psu @balmy pagoda
foggy hazel
@little osprey that memory will work.
balmy pagoda
@foggy hazel would a 450w be enough or no?
vital warren
gpw?
foggy hazel
technically yes.
prisma stag
ASUS TUF GAMING VG27WQ 27" WQHD 2560 x 1440 (2K) 1ms (MPRT) 165Hz (Max) HDMI, DisplayPort FreeSync DisplayHDR 400 Built-in Speakers Curved Gaming Monitor
cloud oasis
G pro wireless
vital warren
ohhh
prisma stag
is that a good monitor for the money or could i do better
foggy hazel
but it depends heavily on the quality of the PSU in question @balmy pagoda
vital warren
and what are glides sorry im dumb
balmy pagoda
makes sense
foggy hazel
the "feet" for a mouse @vital warren
cloud oasis
U put it on the feet of the mouse
balmy pagoda
by quality do you mean the 80+ bronze or whatever idk
vital warren
ohh
balmy pagoda
im not good with pcs
foggy hazel
@balmy pagoda build quality. Which does not follow the efficiency rating (80+ bronze/gold etc etc)
cloud oasis
Should be at least gold+
foggy hazel
that is factually wrong @cloud oasis
cloud oasis
Wat
cloud oasis
alr
Im getting 1000w g3 psu
Evga
The watts are kinda op
but might aswell
No more psus
In stock
cursive wharf
G3 is technically a "fire" hazard due to bad OCP/OTP
cloud oasis
is it ok to get
cursive wharf
Despite being from a good company, modular, 80+ gold, etc
cloud oasis
cursive wharf
It is, but not my ideal recommendation
cloud oasis
what are the fire hazards caused by
vital warren
i'm pretty sure the g2 model is better
cloud oasis
What psu should i get
cursive wharf
First to go into protection explanation. OCP (over current protection)/OTP (over temp protection)
OCP: you can only pull 50a on a rail (12v/5v/3.3v rail). If you pull more then PSU shuts down
OTP: if PSU is over 100c then PSU shutdown
cloud oasis
I shouldnt be worried about that tho right
Im getting 1000w when the watt estimate only says it needs 600 and my case has good airflow aswell
cursive wharf
Without those protections working properly, you can pull say 50% overload (1500w on a 1000w PSU) and it wouldn't shutdown till failure from smth else
Its been known that you can overload the G3 to point of melting the capacitors
cursive wharf
Just don't pull 30% overload, and probs. But even then, if you need a 1000w PSU then your PC is like 2.5k+
Should be able to afford a better 1000w PSU if your PC is that much
cloud oasis
what psu u tryna reccomend
cursive wharf
If not, you probably don't need a 1000w
cloud oasis
Heres my list
I was just gonna get 850w but i realised its only like 10$ off from 1000w
cursive wharf
You wouldn't see much more power consumption with OC tho, so 650w is almost 100% fine. Either way, might as well go 850w.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CQNgXL/enermax-revolution-df-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-erf850ewt
foggy hazel
@prisma stag did you find a solution to the OS question?
prisma stag
no i havent, im trying to find a usb with it already on it so i dont have to download it to one
foggy hazel
that can be done from newegg, the cost is 100+ @prisma stag
prisma stag
would it be less to do it a different way?
if not can you link me to the one on newegg thats on a usb?
foggy hazel
give me a bit @prisma stag
prisma stag
ok ty
foggy hazel
and back again @prisma stag
prisma stag
ok
foggy hazel
you are aware that downloading it directly from microsoft and using their tool for it, will save you about 90 usd right?
prisma stag
No I didn't know that. I was scared of downloading something and putting a virus on my new pc
prisma stag
Yes
foggy hazel
if you have a 8 gig usb stick with nothing on it.
that is all need to make a windows install usb
prisma stag
and then i buy a serial key?
foggy hazel
home 64 is the only thing that makes sense for you
prisma stag
thanks bro
i got one last thing that im confused on
if os is like 20gb why do i only need 8gb flash drive
foggy hazel
its the install files @prisma stag
its not the destination for the OS itself
think of it like the blueprint for the OS itself
little osprey
how do these specs look?
PC Build Specs:
Case: LIAN LI PC-O11 Dynamic ATX Mid-Tower Dual chamber Gaming Case w/ USB 3.1 Type-C, Tempered glass on the front & side
CPU:i9-10900K
SSD: 1TB WD Blue SN550 Series PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD
HDD:2TB (2TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 256MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
Memory: 32GB (16GBx2) DDR4/3200MHz Dual Channel Memory GSKILL Trident Z RGB
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Maximus XII Hero
Powersupply: 1,200 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Gold Power Supply
Video card: GeForce RTX™ Founders Edition 3080 10GB GDDR6X (Ampere)
foggy hazel
so, now you have NOT ordered?
little osprey
No I haven't
little osprey
well how does the build look? I never ordered it, I thought about it
I wanted an opinion
I chose these parts in PCPartPicker
foggy hazel
little osprey
yeah I was undesicive and wanted opinions
little osprey
jeez naed calm down
foggy hazel
and dont spam your list in different channels
little osprey
ok
foggy hazel
that is a waste of everyones time when you do that.
little osprey
okay
foggy hazel
And yes, best of luck with your build. I do not see a point in going over what i have said multiple times ... yet again. The answer to all your questions is in the pm conversation we have had
foggy hazel
i do NOT appreciate having my time wasted like that.
little leaf
Because you say you want help
then when I say get this you say
Don't reccomend this to me cause I'm happy with what I've chosen
so why tf do you ask
little leaf
Not worth my time
little osprey
naed spent much more time then you did trying to help me and now hes offended
so idek
deep skiff
not everybody has the same tolerances
foggy hazel
yes, i used my time, and then i did the responsible thing and told people here that they should not bother
little osprey
okay fair enough
foggy hazel
i have about 50 pages of talk in DM with you
desert gulch
Yeah Naed i totally agree with you here
pastel abyss
well the ram I just bought jumped $20 in price so I'm happy about that
not happy that the Mag B550 wont read it tho
pastel abyss
I have it here.
desert gulch
Nice
pastel abyss
installed it and the mobo seems doa
I've had bad luck with MSI, and I still went back to them
desert gulch
What they say about yoir board this time?
pastel abyss
lulz, they're not going to talk to me until monday morning. no support on the weekends
and I'm not giving their forum access to my contacts to join up
foggy hazel
single stick test done yet @pastel abyss ?
desert gulch
Yeah i was really grateful nothing I got was doa or dmaaged in any way
foggy hazel
and you have ofc also tried clearing the bios right?
pastel abyss
all four after cmos and bios upgrades
foggy hazel
kk
pastel abyss
yeaup, cmos and bios 3x each
foggy hazel
i have to ask :)
pastel abyss
yeah. you never know what someone doesn't know
foggy hazel
indeed
pastel abyss
so my friend has a dd4 stick of 2800
foggy hazel
as the sentence goes: we cannot read your mind
pastel abyss
going to drive over there soon just to test a 3rd working stick
foggy hazel
(nor do we want to, you weirdo:P)
foggy hazel
heck no
as for DOA. you hopefully know that it is "just" a roll of the die when you order something
pastel abyss
speaking of reading minds. Neural net looks interesting, but idk about it
foggy hazel
no model/brand protects you
pastel abyss
if it made me better with Unreal Editor MAaaaaybe
yeah but I'd like to see SOME testing
foggy hazel
aye aye
just saying: no matter what the verdict is on the quality of a given product is. Nothing can prevent a DOA
it will happen at some point
just be happy you dont receive pallets of the things
pastel abyss
yeah I honestly dont think both sticks of the g skill were doa. but I don't have a mobo to test them with
foggy hazel
what about your friends machine?
pastel abyss
do you guys know if a Dell will flip out if I put them in?
foggy hazel
in theory, it will read them
pastel abyss
yeah his is a Dell, and I've offered to buy him better ram for a gift
but he's got an over priced stick of kingston
it's like 2800 16gb for $140
just dumb
I'm not going to match that
foggy hazel
:)
pastel abyss
hey would you guys know, if I do RMA this mobo
if I just buy a 2nd one and have it shipped, if I can just get a refund on the 1st?
this way the process is just a day or 2 faster
agile bough
question so i just got a 2080ti used and just put it in. But my fps is now lower on games i was playin . any idea whats up?
i had at 1650Ti before in it
foggy hazel
you plugged in all the power cords @agile bough ?
agile bough
yea all power is hooked up , im trying to update the drivers
so it says a NVIDIA card is not detected
when i try and use the nvidia control panel
foggy hazel
https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html <- read and follow guide
swift rain
foggy hazel
marketing reasons
cunning knoll
@foggy hazel would the Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case be the best case at the same price? maybe one with lights
whole stag
P500A if your willing to spend the money
Only like $130
Good airflow
Lots of space
foggy hazel
@cunning knoll the case really is up to your preference
vital warren
td 500 mesh, meshify c, and phanteks has some good cases with airflow (all around $100 usd)
little leaf
220t
little osprey
220t
vital warren
and that^
clever grove
i am new to all this and I am trying to upgrade my old desktop with a new mother board that I can use a I9 Pentium processor
are all mother boards in ATX the same size ht and width
granite delta
@foggy hazel hey, does it matter if it just wobbles a bit cus the one on the middle far right it just wobbles and comes out at ease
All the others are perfect
real merlin
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/bluebearpresto/saved/rNrY99
This is my part list for a monster build I'm gonna make next summer, keeping in mind the 2080 super is a placeholder for a 3080 from asus and the 3700x is a placeholder for the 4700x
Also Trident z royal 👅💦
foggy hazel
@granite delta far right/middle one does not matter super much. So dont worry about it
thats the one you mean right @granite delta ?
foggy hazel
no worries
granite delta
I’m pretty sure it’s the case
foggy hazel
question
have you tested that the system actually boots before you put it in the case?
also, something else.
what exact mainboard do you have @granite delta ?
because there is something that does NOT add up with that picture of yours
granite delta
Yes
foggy hazel
now, please tell me, what case do you have?
granite delta
Masterbox lite 3.1
granite delta
Matx
foggy hazel
no
granite delta
?
foggy hazel
That board up there? that is NOT a mATX board
foggy hazel
it wont fit
its physically impossible for it to fit in that case
so look again please. What exactly does your mainboard box say on its front?
foggy hazel
you gave me the wrong model name
foggy hazel
so congrats on scaring yourself.
foggy hazel
i repeat, which exact model is it you have?
granite delta
Msi b450m pro vdh max
foggy hazel
2sec
granite delta
Ok
foggy hazel
how many standoffs do you think you actually need?
little osprey
Hello
granite delta
All of the ones on the case
foggy hazel
wrong
granite delta
I heard you don’t need all of them
vocal hare
its a matx board
vocal hare
you likely only need like 6
granite delta
Ok
vocal hare
but just match the standoffs and hole on your mobo
real merlin
Can anyone here critique a parts list for me?
foggy hazel
is that a metal standoffs can short-circuit your mainboard
granite delta
It’s brass
vocal hare
you order these from a rando company?
granite delta
Amazon, so I guess
vocal hare
or these came from manufacturer
foggy hazel
@granite delta trust me. You DO NOT WANT EXTRA of them
foggy hazel
look at your mainboard
granite delta
Remove the one in the middle right?
foggy hazel
see the holes that are there
vocal hare
you need to look at your motherboard
granite delta
Yesh
foggy hazel
match it to them
vocal hare
line it up and see where you gotta put them
foggy hazel
and if you are removing anything other than the one i have marked? its the wrong one.
@real merlin not if you dont post it
granite delta
Yeah I got it
foggy hazel
any reason we need to see the same list again @real merlin ?
granite delta
So I removed it and I guess I’m good to go for that part?
real merlin
Sorry
foggy hazel
@real merlin i was curious, because i had it open on side monitor already
real merlin
Ah
foggy hazel
@granite delta correct. for that part of it.
@granite delta have you actually tested that the machine can boot ?
granite delta
Not yet
real merlin
I don't have access to my pc rn so I figured I'd make a list for an upgrade since it's a 3 year old build
*almost 3 year old
foggy hazel
@granite delta do that before you put it in the case :)
foggy hazel
yes, dont break anything :)
granite delta
Ok
@foggy hazel sorry for bugging you so much, but if you don’t mind helping throughout my first build
I place the backplate there and then screw in the heatsink right?
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