Only iCUE
#building-and-recc-chat
lusty glacier
wary geode
only icue as a software
lusty glacier
Yes
lusty glacier
Sure is
Reinstalled iCUE, enabled software control, rebooting then testing a sleep
wary geode
yes
lusty glacier
Ram still on 😦
And it froze again. Hates software control.
Okay, I fixed it, kind of. I'm not sure if I can paste links or if the whole comment gets deleted so I'll paste it after this comment. Full software control is enabled for this fix but it causes the RGB to freeze for a few seconds every few seconds.
I've (sort of) figured out what causes the RGB/iCUE to freeze - when I move my mouse, type, or do anything that causes the CPU to not idle.
foggy hazel
so, the conlusion is that icue is about as stable as a moody teenager then?
lusty glacier
When software control is disabled, the ram doesn't freeze but it stays on during sleep. When software control is enabled, the rgb turns off during sleep but it freezes if I sneeze while holding the mouse.
No question Corsair has the best looking RGB devices available and logically they've got a massive swath of the market share. With all that money you'd think they'd create some stable software.
calm crypt
What do u guys think gtx 1650 lp or rx 560 lp
autumn wolf
my vengeance rgb pro has "Enable full software control" checked (box filled in); the firmware is at v. 1.02.64 for the ram. icue itself is at v. 3.29.110. havent had any issues with these settings and only time the lighting freezes up is when im doing something really cpu intensive
could be a firmware issue
lusty glacier
What motherboard do you have @autumn wolf ?
autumn wolf
aorus z390 pro wifi but also never had a problem with the ram on my rog z270 maximus ix apex
lusty glacier
hmm
autumn wolf
do you have a secondary software for lighting? cause the software used for my aorus board would take over my ram at times
though i got that situated a while back
lusty glacier
No, we took care of that
If ErP would work as intended I wouldn't have this issue :c
trim osprey
Would someone mind double checking to see if my build is good for 1080p 60 fps gaming before I buy here?
little osprey
@trim osprey ill have a look at it
stray valve
-Ryzen 9 3900X
-32 GB Corsair Vengence RGB Pro RAM
-Nvidia RTX 3080
How does that sound ^
amber lichen
a bit overkill but sounds nice
i mean im building a 1100 budget pc with a 3070
im really tempted to load it with rgb
but thats probably out of my budget
stoic island
@stray valve might want to use pcpartpicker.com
@amber lichen I fit in a bit of rgb, cut some corners tho :P
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2hZHk6
deep skiff
yeah kinda vague list
stoic wyvern
is there anyway to check the mobo without having the cpu
stoic island
no
deep skiff
^
calm crypt
What do y’all think rx 560 lp or gtx 1650 lp
stoic wyvern
what abt the psu can you just plug it in to the wall and see if the fan spins?
calm crypt
U gotta get a paper clip and short two connectors
There’s a lot of yt vids on how to do it
Just look up how to test PSU
stoic wyvern
thx man
calm crypt
Np
stoic wyvern
im not even gonna worry abt my parts that are coming "stress-free"
solar fossil
Is this the right place to find a very knowledgable PC enthusiast that can give me tips on building my first gaming PC?
lyric thistle
@calm crypt GTX 1650
late tree
can anyone help me pick right stuff for a pc
dark sedge
I3-7100 dual 2080ti 8gb ddr3
calm crypt
@calm crypt GTX 1650
@lyric thistle ty
I3-7100 dual 2080ti 8gb ddr3
@dark sedge lmao I think an i3 2100 would be a better option tho
lyric thistle
😳
foggy hazel
@solar fossil have you gotten an answer to your question?
@late tree ask and you can get an answer. Dont ask, and you wont get an answer :)
mellow basalt
Can someone tell me which monitor is better? This one: https://www.microcenter.com/product/615481/acer-nitro-xv272u-pbmiiprzx-27-wqhd-144hz-hdmi-dp-freesync-hdr-ips-led-gaming-monitor or this one: https://www.microcenter.com/product/620464/asus-vg279qm-27-full-hd-280hz-hdmi-dp-hdr-g-sync-compatible-ips-led-gaming-monitor
The acer nitro has 1.7 billion color output
mellow basalt
K thx
mellow basalt
@desert gulch something like this: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/RapidSharpShooter/saved/#view=svybhM
unborn flicker
Im just mad i got my 2080 not even a month ago now the 3000 series are coming lol
desert gulch
Dont get 4k
mellow basalt
Which monitor is 4K?
desert gulch
The acer one
I would say get a 1080p
144hz
Thats where you are with your system
desert gulch
Yeah
desert gulch
Nice
unborn flicker
Gigabyte z490 vision d 3tb crucial p1 nvme m.2 evga gefore rtx 2080 super corsair vengance 32gig 3600mhz ram hyper tx3 corsair cpu cooler corsair hp500 case intel i7 10th gen 5.3 oc to 5.6
desert gulch
Oof gonna sell the 2080s?
unborn flicker
I might after the 3090 has been out long enough to work out bugs ect..
desert gulch
Your gonna be able to afford 3090?
unborn flicker
Not if im gonna save that cash for a 3090
desert gulch
Lmao
unborn flicker
Next check ill have new monitors
desert gulch
Stimulus check?
unborn flicker
Nah promotion
foggy hazel
@unborn flicker a suggestion that will make your life much more comfortable, get some monitor arms for those monitors
hello @desert gulch
unborn flicker
Yea i plan on getting tripple.monitor set up
unborn flicker
And the arms will make life somuch better
foggy hazel
well, add a bigger desk to the list then :)
foggy hazel
good :)
little osprey
Can anyone help?
deep skiff
:v might wanna say what u need help with first
foggy hazel
also, you might want to look into running a portrait+landscape setup with the monitors (depends on your use case ofc)
unborn flicker
A nice corner desk and led strips comming for it to give that sexy glow as i have rgb going on with case keyboard ect
little osprey
My pc wont display anything
I checked my cpu and nothing is broken, I uninstalled and installed ram
Nothing works
foggy hazel
check your cables
empty glacier
Check if you connected to the correct hdmi
little osprey
I am
empty glacier
You have to connect it to the gpu hdmi
little osprey
Ik
empty glacier
Make sure the gpu connection is firm and not loose
deep skiff
does it post at all?
little osprey
foggy hazel
by check your cables, i am not only talking about the display cable. but all of them.
mainboard model @little osprey ?
empty glacier
Did you make sure the cpu is laid out correctly and have all connections touching the board?
little osprey
Yup
empty glacier
Which ram are you using
empty glacier
GDDR#?
little osprey
I think 6
flint mulch
i have a question anyone know a good build thats 900 dollars and is good for FPS games
deep skiff
gddr is for gpu its ddr4
foggy hazel
did you follow the manual for which slot to put the ram in?
foggy hazel
good.
little osprey
And I just installed the gpu
little osprey
On the moniter no
foggy hazel
on the mainboard
deep skiff
does it give you a post screen or just black?
little osprey
Black
foggy hazel
okay, i would like you to turn on the machine, and then look just north of the atx power cable on the mainboard
little osprey
unborn flicker
Lol
little osprey
okay, i would like you to turn on the machine, and then look just north of the atx power cable on the mainboard
@foggy hazel can we hop on a call
foggy hazel
give me 2-3 minutes, and we can :)
unborn flicker
Lots of paste
empty glacier
Teahhh u should clean that up on the side
little osprey
I did
empty glacier
What kidn of cpu?
little osprey
😅
empty glacier
And power supply
unborn flicker
I went overkill on my psu
empty glacier
Compatibility issur
foggy hazel
i am ready @little osprey
stoic island
Oh boy TT smart 80+?
calm crypt
@little osprey did u put the gpu in the other pci slot
stoic island
@calm crypt best idea to always go first PCIe slot imo
calm crypt
Ya but if it’s not posting could be a dead slot
stoic island
Then the Mobo has an issue
lyric thistle
use whichever PCIe slot that the manual says is 16x
though it doesn't matter too much between 16x and 8x
stoic island
I don't think I've seen anyone get a dead x16 slot without have the board be completely borked
:p
calm crypt
Lol it happened to me the other day rather than a dead slot there was just crap in it I had to get an air duster lol
stoic island
Is it even possible to just have a dead slot and no damaged traces?
calm crypt
I mean probably lmao anything happens
stoic island
Unless you snapped the slot in half
peak shore
How many devices y'all have on your desks?
desert gulch
Many
peak shore
I'm at 15 I think.
20 if you count what I'm currently working on, but they won't be here for long
@foggy hazel I posted my attempt in build pics
I had to switch out a video cable though, so you can see that it's untucked in the second picture
little osprey
i have 3
edgy wagon
is it weird i have a 240hz monitor with a rx 580?
edgy wagon
3070 in 2022 when they are back in stock
next kestrel
honestly, if youre waiting for 2022, its prob better to go for a cheap 144hz monitor
considering that prices are likely to go down by then
edgy wagon
i will buy a 3070 when they are avalible
not sure how long that will be though since its gonna be a popular buy for a while
next kestrel
if thats your plan, the 240hz monitor makes complete sense
solar fossil
@foggy hazel I have not, hoping someone could take a look at list of parts I made and tell me if anything is wrong with it or what I could change to get more bang for buck
foggy hazel
@solar fossil you got a pcpartpicker list?
solar fossil
@foggy hazel I have a list made on newegg that I can show
foggy hazel
try and see if you can post the link for it
solar fossil
should I use pcpartpicker? I have never heard of it until now. Okay let me see if I can do that or send a screenshot
foggy hazel
for now, dont worry about pcpartpicker
solar fossil
if that doesn't work I can send screenshots
foggy hazel
if the bot prevents it, just send it to me as a dm
solar fossil
Okay I sent it through here and the dm, lmk if it doesn't work
foggy hazel
as i said in the dm, its a private list. It needs to be made into a public one:)
solar fossil
Okay, sorry bout that, changed it to a public one and sent a new link
wet prairie
yo guys i’m in a pickle rn, some people are telling be that my b450 ds3h can’t handle a r7 3700x and some say it can. can it?
spiral zealot
if you mean bios support, 99% chance it's fine. early boards needed a bios update, but at this point anything new from the factory will have the right bios flashed on assembly
spiral zealot
yes
spiral zealot
if it has the right bios, nothing. it'll boot and post fine. if you're in the 1% of people who get a board with an old bios, AMD can loan you a CPU to boot and get the update done
cursive wharf
Also should have a bit of airflow over VRMs. Zero airflow config will overheat VRMs
cursive wharf
So having a fan at back or top of case is what you need
wet prairie
is this good? i have 4 fans. and i promise i do NOT play fortnite i’m in my brothers discord account and he’s a fortnite kid that’s why there is a poster lol
cursive wharf
suurreee man... /s
But yeah, that's good
cursive wharf
I don't see any issues
wet prairie
ok
but also my board is 75$
and i searched it up and it’s compatible with my board
idk why they said it wasn’t
unborn solstice
is it bad if the SMART ssd thing keeps interrupting my boot into os to tell me my drive is at risk
i disabled that in bios. hope it wasnt too important
its a brand new drive. im sure its fine, right?
cursive wharf
People get concerned over VRMs. If it overheats in zero airflow config they slowly twist the words like in broken telephone to the point they ignore "zero airflow config". They it's just " VRMs overheat" to them. That's where a lot of issues stem from
@unborn solstice I'd give a guess of almost DOA. SSDs fail rather quick after a smart failure apparently. So you got a lemon that'll probs die rather soon
unborn solstice
😦
after it said that i reinstalled windows to my m.2 just in case
o wait no. I read the thing wrong. problem is with my hdd. I’ve never had a problem with it. all i did was plug it into a new pc. could that have messed it up?
wet prairie
ok so it would work just fine?
little osprey
So what's the reason to use different motherboard sizes?
deep skiff
you cant put a motherboard thats twice the size of a case in said case
spiral zealot
just gives you options depending where you want to put the machine
most folks won't want a full size atx board for a home theater pc
my previous machine was itx because i didn't have space for anything bigger
but now i do, so i did a full ATX build, but in a mid tower case
split vale
so it’s fine right?
@wet prairie
who cares? unless you're only in it for the Fake Internet Points
do what looks good to you. unless for said points
spiral zealot
it's not about looks, he was asking if the CPU/motherboard would be compatible
split vale
i dunno, but two questions asking about goodness was sandwiching a pic of it
spiral zealot
because we were talking about airflow
so he said he had 4 fans, and sent us a pic of his current setup
he's dropping the cpu into a board he already has
little osprey
how to choose cooler?
Aircooling that it
I don't think watercooling is good idea for me
foggy hazel
for what CPU @little osprey ?
little osprey
ummm. Let's say either a ryzen 5 or 7 series
foggy hazel
you can just go with the stock cooler that comes in the box.
little osprey
There wont be any performance issues cause of overheating right?
foggy hazel
no
foggy hazel
indeed :)
crisp bolt
Hello everyone. This is my first ever Discord chat and I'm thrilled to be part of this.
foggy hazel
as for the mainboard size question earlier: think of it like "if you dont need the things that a ATX board can do, why use the space on it"
crisp bolt
I want to buy a completely new PC with the upcoming RTX 3080 and also want the AMD Threadripper 3960x as I do gaming, photo/video editing and 3D renders/animation aswell. I've never bought an AMD so I wanted help with my build.
little osprey
damn going all out
foggy hazel
and your budget is how much @crisp bolt ?
split vale
on 3000 series, non G (e.g. 3400G) series
Ryzen 3 = 4 core
Ryzen 5 = 6 core
Ryzen 7 = 8 core
Ryzen 9 = 12-16 core
little osprey
oh ok, I'm referring more specifically to the individual models though like the 1400 or 1600
split vale
ew
little osprey
Is there any reason for that
crisp bolt
and your budget is how much @crisp bolt ?
@foggy hazel 3K
split vale
only good 1600 is the 1600 AF (and only if below $95)
foggy hazel
as in: why are they named like that? you mean @little osprey ?
little osprey
Yes, Naed
foggy hazel
just random marketing reasons really :)
mellow basalt
Do I need the Arctic freezer cooler or is the stock fine?
split vale
on what CPU?
crisp bolt
But also, I want to know if I need such heavy spec PC. I go First Person shooting, 4K video editing and just started 3D
mellow basalt
Ryzen 5 3600 @split vale
split vale
try the stock for starters
mellow basalt
K thx
split vale
tho if the 3600X is only $8 more (i wouldn't do it for more than $9.99), go with that one as it has a better cooler
foggy hazel
@crisp bolt imo, you do not need the threadripper. It really is NOT a gaming cpu
foggy hazel
its absolutely divine for CPU intensive things. but there are a bunch of issues/potential problems that you open yourself up to, that imo, makes it way simpler (and cheaper) to just not go that route.
split vale
yeah, like continuous CG rendering
or distributed computing
my Threadripper just sat in my basement doing distributed computing or rendering 24/7 for the first 3-8 months of its existence
crisp bolt
@crisp bolt imo, you do not need the threadripper. It really is NOT a gaming cpu
@foggy hazel Ok understood. But what about my other tasks? Which AMD model you prefer that will cater those.
foggy hazel
3900x
split vale
editing, not really (unless you're on the scale of Hardware Unboxed or GamersNexus or LTT)
it'll help more for the final encoding, so it just depends on how much you actually do
and again with CG, only if you're doing continuous
if you have 0 debt and thousands to spare, tho, don't hold back i guess xD
and time costs you money
crisp bolt
Ok, so 3900x it is then. I believe it will cater my gaming, 4K video editing and 3D rendering needs.
high oasis
I can say from experience as I have a 3900x, its a monster for those tasks
split vale
when do you plan to build?
high oasis
I advise you to get a 360mm aio or a decent 280mm
split vale
if it's not "must be built this week," wait for Ryzen 4000, which should be Soon^tm
crisp bolt
soon, very soon. Waiting on the new RTX
wet prairie
can a ds3h b450 support a r7 3700x i watched a video on it and the guy said he has no problems
split vale
yes, but make sure you're buying from Newegg or Amazon directly
also, the VRM might get a bit toasty. and don't expect OCing or to put 12+ cores on it in the future
foggy hazel
@wet prairie the answer is still "it depends on the specific bios version", as you were told 1½ hour ago :)
crisp bolt
yes, but make sure you're buying from Newegg or Amazon directly
@split vale yes I'm planning to buy all from newegg as I've bought earlier
split vale
MSI B450-A Pro/Mortar/Tomahawk won't get as hot and will support 12-16 cores better
maaaaybe Gaming Plus
cursive wharf
Bad boards for high end CPUs tho
split vale
mmmno?
cursive wharf
Very supar and not worth being put in a high end system
cursive wharf
VRMs isnt the only thing in a mobo
sacred path
Should I buy Asus Prime B450M-A. I will be using a ryzen 7 2700x. it’s supported but If there are better options
split vale
F no
cursive wharf
Those boards have good VRMs, but literally only good VRMs. Everything else is equal to a $72 board
foggy hazel
vrm's are overrated beyond reason
high oasis
Im considering upgrading my 240mm thermaltake aio to a 360mm msi mag aio.. due to my case being somewhat compact.
I have a phanteks p400s
foggy hazel
the tomahawk especially is a bargin bin board that is wasted on 99.99999% of the people that buy it
because as Hei said, the only good thing on them is the VRM
sacred path
What should I get then ??
split vale
i can't imagine without a heatsink (e.g. Prime B450M-A)
cursive wharf
What about airflow though?
high oasis
Any comments on the x570msi meg unify?
cursive wharf
CPU cooler, case fan config, etc
Not to mention what fans at what RPM. Lot more variables then just x and y (cpu and mobo)
split vale
well, i guess let me take a step back, what's the use case, jedi?
and will you be using a stock or aftermarket cooler?
cursive wharf
I generally wouldn't go x570 for budget-ish build. I'd stick to b550 or so
Unless there is a very specific x570 thing you need
foggy hazel
@split vale the following is not meant in a negative way. But its much more helpful IF you can look at what the user needs instead of what you personally prefer :)
sacred path
You can recommend a different case if you want
split vale
if you're not going to be running it at 100% CPU, it's probably ok with stock cooler
crisp bolt
Thank you for the help. I will be back when 4000 launches and ask your help for the specific parts. Thank you.
cursive wharf
H18 I believe has not so great airflow due to having 3 mesh filters at front of case. Basically too many filters impeding the airflow
foggy hazel
you are very welcome, see you later this year @crisp bolt
split vale
or maybe limited stretches of time like under 2-6 hours
lyric thistle
can you not remove the mesh filters?
split vale
with 8 or more cores (or a planned "more"), i'd definitely suggest looking for green in the 100A section and probably 150 (or at least yellow) if 16 cores is an eventual upgrade goal https://i.redd.it/2iwdy5wrrly31.png
cursive wharf
Do note that stock 3950x is like 100a. Tho if getting 3950x then an okay 150a board is nothing much in terms of money
split vale
more strongly suggest the more you plan to run the CPU at max loads
i plan on putting a 3900X on my recently acquired B450M Pro4 at least for testing reasons, tho i could swap it with my B450M Mortar if need be
the Pro4 has the worst looking BIOS i've encountered in the Ryzen era yet, tho
but it works
cursive wharf
AsRock and gigabyte are known for not amazing BIOSes
split vale
at least Gigabyte's isn't as much of an eyesore
split vale
that's going to be my spam copy pasta anytime speculative 3000 series stuff is mentioned, i guess
floral flare
🔥
little osprey
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qtqBNq
What would be a good ASRock replacement?
stoic island
B550 ds3h @little osprey
split vale
strictly looking at VRMs
stoic island
And MSI B550m pro vdh wifi
little osprey
Anything other than ASRock, thankies
stoic island
That's VRM temps
split vale
ones that were skipped usually had identical VRMs or close enough
stoic island
As long as it's not 100c+ it doesn't matter
It's tested with a 3900x anyways
I don't like hw unboxed but they do they
split vale
oh, here we go. worst case scenario 😂
stoic island
3950x oc
...
The point is, VRM temps kinda useless especially considering they're using a 3600
foggy hazel
less scaring of people with "out of context" info please.
stoic island
There's a lot more to the quality of a motherboard
split vale
you're supposed to "..." the 1.375v
stoic island
Than vrm cooling lol
Different chips can be safe at different voltages
Some 3rd gen chips COULD be safe up to 1.4v
split vale
yeah, ignore the 3950X stuff
stoic island
Some only 1.275v kinda thing
split vale
i wouldn't touch voltages
stoic island
Anyways I'd still ignore vrm temps unless you're planning on a high end CPU or it has huge issues
If you're doing manual OC, auto voltage just won't do it.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Kinda surprised they only got 4.3ghz on that
Thought 3950x can do 4.5 pretty easily
split vale
eh, i guess with B550, you can ignore vrm temps ...except for the Prime B550-A
foggy hazel
even on that you can easily ignore it
IF you are just a normal user that doesnt oc.
also, you have both forgotten the person who asked for help :)
stoic island
Ya
It's a 3600
Vrm temps are completely useless
Unless they're just using a welded metal box, then we have other issues to deal with
split vale
ohshi, forgot Asus finally put a heatsink on their Prime -A series (just this one ...oh, and the Z490)
stoic island
@little osprey I stand with my initial suggestions, b550 ds3h and b550 pro vdh wifi
little osprey
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J6QYV7
Like this? I’m not sure I get the vdh WiFi part, is that part of the name?
slender owl
Any good WiFi extender/boosters y’all recommend?
little osprey
Would I need a different case for a micro ATX?
ripe quest
charge your phone lol
pallid hull
he on 17 percent, he good bro
earnest olive
charging a battery to 100% is bad for its health
sick cove
didnt mean to send that here
terse condor
Could use some help if anyone is a computer nerd
Was building a pc. Everything worked fine, installed windows and all the drivers. I then turn off my pc and plug in rgb. Turn back on and it powers up but i hear a pop and the fans look funny so i shut down, Inspect wires, and restart. Now nothing. No power through the system only click on the power supply when i hit the power button
Any one have any ideas?
sick cove
i think your psu failed
stoic island
Yeah sounds like some protection poped or it got shorted maybe
terse condor
Its a brand new psu
It did smell funny for a second
Would that be motherboard or psu?
@stoic island
stoic island
Try paperclip test
terse condor
Havent done that. On the psu? How do i do that
violet lion
can i ask another tech support question
terse condor
I dont have a paperclip could i use a wire? @stoic island
livid moss
I don’t think switching to a wire would change too much in this scenario, but there’s a possibility it’s more conductive but that’s the only difference and I doubt it will make a difference. I’m no professional, but getting a paper clip shouldn’t be too much of a hassle.
Also I realized the wire is more malleable, while a paper clip stays where you bend it for the most part
deep skiff
as long as it is conductive it should work
violet lion
so i just installed a new motherboard, wifi adapter, cpu and fan
and now my wifi is much slower on my desktop than it was
and its much slower than it is on any other device
like a threefold difference
terse condor
I would grab one but everywhere is closed early around here, but i do have wires
stoic wyvern
will i have any probs of pluggin my pc into a exteniosn cord, the psu is 450watts
slender owl
Should be fine
terse condor
Thanks @stoic island
My power supply is good and everything works but once i plug up my cpu power nothing turns on. What could that be?
violet lion
does it start than stop or just not start at all
terse condor
Nothing at all
Just took the cpu and now no power to motherboard at all. Is that normal
@violet lion
But when the cpu was if the cpu power cord was unplugged all the lights and stuff would turn on. Now nothing without cpu
violet lion
why'd you take the cpu out?
i dont know all that much, im just trying to help but honestly i dont know much at all about power supplies
stoic island
@terse condor yea it's supposed to do nothing where CPU is gone
wonder what happened with cpu power tho
violet lion
is your cpu cooled properly
also when you put on the thermal paste did you make sure there were no air bubbles or anything
or does your cpu have integrated cooling
bold glen
im going to build a pc soon and i have a budget of around 700 but i plan to upgrade. Whats a good build?
bold glen
yeah
obviously im not welding my own parts but i plan on building my pc rather than a pre built
terse condor
Ok everything on pc works. But once i plug in the cpu power, nothing works
Any idea why?
Broken cpu. Its weird because it was just working
unborn solstice
so the pc doesnt work when u plug in supplemental cpu power?
terse condor
Yes
Was working earlier tho
But i also havent installed the motherboard updates yet
spiral zealot
make sure you're plugging in the CPU 8 pin and not the PCi-e 8 pin
unborn solstice
i imagine u have a bent pin somewhere and when your cpu gets the extra power it gets overwhelmed without the pin
unborn solstice
that too
spiral zealot
just double check
terse condor
Yes it is the rightr
Cord*
I removed it when i was narrowing down issues it could be
spiral zealot
ok, i only bring it up because someone else here had the same problem, and they were trying to use pci-e 8 pin
unborn solstice
i just explained the difference in #graphics-cards
unborn solstice
ok so some pins on a cpu are for power/resistors/etc. others are for data
i imagine you just have a broken or missing power related pin
terse condor
Ok
unborn solstice
do u have intel or amd?
unborn solstice
ok. then the pins are on the cpu. u can rma that
or theres potentially a mobo issue. no real way to be sure
terse condor
Wdym rma?
unborn solstice
return merchandise authorization
terse condor
Ohh
unborn solstice
just means send it back for a new one
however if u need to rma your mobo u need ti have that plastic socket cover that cane with it
terse condor
None came with it
stoic island
@violet lion the hell?
terse condor
Same lmao
stoic island
INTEGRATED COOLING????
terse condor
But also
@stoic island what do you think?
Pc powers up fine but once i have the cpu power cord plugged in nothing powers up
stoic island
I wonder if somehow CPU power got screwed
unborn solstice
i mean technically they all come in integrated cooling... the ihs
foggy hazel
@violet lion i am curious. What exactly do you mean by this? "or does your cpu have integrated cooling"
granite delta
Cpu with integrated cooling!!??
unborn solstice
tapes ice pack to ihs
foggy hazel
IHS = integrated heatspreader
unborn solstice
yes
foggy hazel
not integrated heatsink
unborn solstice
surface area is surface area man
foggy hazel
yes, technically it can cool, and it will cool. There is however a heck of a difference
little osprey
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/IntentCypress18/saved/TM9Kpg my build its in cad, the 970 evo plus is the same price as the 970 evo rn so i am getting the plus, and i am gonna get the high airflow version of the bequiet fans cuz i have a discount and i am gonna switch the headset so dont worry bout that oh and the cpu is gonna be a 4900x
unborn solstice
wut in de heck 3080 u getting?
stoic island
I dunno
unborn solstice
$1000?
stoic island
It's really weird
terse condor
Go for a pcie 4.0 ssd if you ballin out
little osprey
its CAD@unborn solstice
river umbra
yall think i should sell my 2070S for the 3070. Built my pc about a month or month and a half ago and i wasnt aware that new gpus were coming out. i feel scammed. opinions?
stoic island
SX8200 pro 1tb is 155cad
sacred obsidian
Depends on how bad you want it. I got my 2070s not to long ago and im fine with the fact that it came out now, i probably wont upgrade til next year at least
foggy hazel
@stoic island i have looked over the conversation you have had going, and if i had an hour or 2 to drag out the details like you have had to, i could look into it, but i would prefer some sleep instead
foggy hazel
IF you have not found a solution, i will have a look tomorrow @terse condor
foggy hazel
@little osprey if you dont have a question, please dont clutter up the chat.
river umbra
i probably am gonna just wait and upgrade in a year or 2 then. theyll probably end up releasing something like a 3070 S or something anyways. Im just hoping my pc build will be on par with the next gen consoles.
little osprey
it has enough drive slots
terse condor
Thanks @foggy hazel i most likely will need one still
tall oak
ok yall
still roostBOT
Awesomeness6326#5681 has been warned
tall oak
oh sorry
foggy hazel
@little osprey re: pci-e 4.0: have a good hard look at the actual advantages. Not benchmark scores, but actual advantages.
tall oak
i need some help cuz im a plebain that dosent know anything
unborn solstice
what do u need?
little osprey
@foggy hazel should i go for a sabrent rocket 1tb ssd or a 970 evo plus cuz the evo plus is the same price as the 970 evo and the sabrent rocket is 50 bucks less than the 970 evo plus as it is on sale
terse condor
Im about to remove ram and reset cosmos, all that. But ive narrowed the issue down the the cpu power being plugged in
terse condor
Which yields in now power at all
foggy hazel
your choice @little osprey
unborn solstice
dm me the link @tall oak
little osprey
I had briefly seen his build and its why I asked about the r3 3300x vs the r5 2600 lol
your choice @little osprey
@foggy hazel from a few videos i have just seen i will go with the 970 evo plus
unborn solstice
@tall oak that mobo is kinda overkill. also dont buy an expensive windows key. u can get one for like $10
tall oak
mobo?
little osprey
Mother board
tall oak
is it?
unborn solstice
yes
foggy hazel
@unborn solstice general practice is posting the link on behalf of the person :)
little osprey
b450
foggy hazel
thank you, and nothing to worry about, just makes it easier on you too :)
tall oak
how is it overkill?
tall oak
i got it cuz its wifi
little osprey
and ur going with ryzen 2nd gen
foggy hazel
please dont push your own wants/needs onto someone else @little osprey
tall oak
and cheepsihh
little osprey
u can go b450
please dont push your own wants/needs onto someone else @little osprey
@foggy hazel ?
i am saying what i think is best
if u have a different say say it
b550/450 would be cheaper wouldnt it?
foggy hazel
ask the person what he actually wants to use the machine for, before you start telling him what he does or doesnt need.
tall oak
i coulndt find a b450 wifi board that is compatible with my power supply
little osprey
he doesn't need to listein to me
i coulndt find a b450 wifi board that is compatible with my power supply
@tall oak what about b550?
tall oak
im just here to learn guys no need to argue
tall oak
the wifi mobo is easier
little osprey
true
foggy hazel
no, but if you want to offer advice, please listen to the person asking for help :)
tall oak
and ill look @little osprey
little osprey
and if the mobo
doesn't have wifi slot
then that sucks
no, but if you want to offer advice, please listen to the person asking for help :)
@foggy hazel i did
tall oak
@foggy hazel hes just trying to help its ok theres no need to argue
little osprey
@tall oak amd compatible gigabyte b550 is like 100$ on newegg im pretty sure
still roostBOT
Awesomeness6326#5681 has been warned
tall oak
gigabyte is bad tho
foggy hazel
@tall oak what powersupply do you have (there should not be anything that prevents you from using any modern mainboard)
tall oak
EVGA 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply
my old mobo had only two pin slots
foggy hazel
that works with anything
tall oak
so i did a new one with four pins
little osprey
b550m ds3h
tall oak
also guys can you edit my part list to what would work better?
foggy hazel
"my old mobo had only two pin slots" <- what exactly do you mean by that?
tall oak
here @foggy hazel ill send you the link
tall oak
you do?
little osprey
A person with link perms sent it lol
foggy hazel
Clutz posted it earlier
tall oak
ah
little osprey
tall oak
wait panda you can post links>
little osprey
I can
foggy hazel
green user name = lvl 3 = can post links
tall oak
ooooohhhhhhhhhhh
foggy hazel
its our anti spam :)
foggy hazel
just keep talking and using the chat, and you will be lvl 3 shortly too
tall oak
ok
foggy hazel
what is your intended use for this system?
foggy hazel
and what else besides WIFI was considered for the parts?
tall oak
nothing really just good reliable parts
foggy hazel
okay
tall oak
right lmao
foggy hazel
correct
tall oak
its 249
tall oak
yeah im pretty dumb sorry yall
foggy hazel
correct PanDa
unborn solstice
@tall oak this is for gaming right?
tall oak
yeah
foggy hazel
there are no stupid questions, only silly answers.
unborn solstice
then with a $1300 budget i think u can get a significantly better gpu
like even a 3070
foggy hazel
and cpu
tall oak
oh wowo
little osprey
cough cough 3070 cough
tall oak
i heard next month the prices are dropping tho cuz the new gpu comes out
unborn solstice
thats this month
foggy hazel
so, the 1300 is with the monitor included or is that extra?
tall oak
k
foggy hazel
give me a bit :)
tall oak
you can go over a bit if you want it should be fine
just around 1300
oh an btw with the mobo to work with the power supply it needs like an adapter or something it says at the notes at the bottom
foggy hazel
not going to be a problem
you wont be getting that specific mainboard
thigns will be changed :)
tall oak
ok
sounds like a plan stan
i gtg just dm the link when your done please
cuz i got school tommorow
foggy hazel
i will send you a link in about 5 minutes
violet lion
@foggy hazel some cpus come with fans attached, no?
foggy hazel
no
void valley
Hey guys, do you think that the x73 aio cooler with 3 fans will fit in the corsair spec-06
foggy hazel
@violet lion there are no consumer CPU's that come with a fan attached to the cpu from the manufacturer
little osprey
Check this out on @Newegg: ABS Master Gaming PC - Ryzen 5 3600 - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti - 8GB DDR4 - 512GB SSD https://www.newegg.com/abs-computer-technologies-ala210/p/N82E16883102981?Item=N82E16883102981&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-102-981-_-09072020
I know this is prebuilt but is this a good build?
The ram and storage could be better but idk
lyric thistle
Weren't there some 486 CPUs or something like that that came with a small heatsink and a tiny fan :p
foggy hazel
installed after @lyric thistle
lyric thistle
Hmmm 
I guess I'm having an effect named after a South African politician who was imprisoned in the 90s who I don't remember the name of
little osprey
Damn this is so sad
ripe quest
Can someone help me make a 2.5k budget build for my friend? I'm not familiar with such a high budget lol
he wants rgb
and a 3080
ripe quest
yeah stonk money
little osprey
I'm not to good with builds so sorry about that
foggy hazel
699
little osprey
I see
foggy hazel
@ripe quest quick list: 3900x, 32 gigs, 2tb nvme, good psu, good case. Noctua cooler, solid mainboard. And then start looking for a proper monitor
and thats the last for me tonight.
little osprey
Lol good bye @foggy hazel
foggy hazel
you are very welcome, ltt tier list for psu btw.
lyric thistle
Good night Naed 😳
left adder
Hey guys, anyone have any advise on how to increase cooling for my PC? I can’t run my PC and AC at the same time since it tends to blow the fuse in my apartment (I guess it’s limited).
Currently running a RTX 2080 super and a i7-8700K (water cooled).
The case is a Phanteks Eclipse P300 TG edition along with a 280mm Rad on the front of the case cooling the CPU, 1 extra fan on the front as Intake and 2 intake fans on the top of the case along with 1 exhaust fan on the back of the case.
Not sure if I should invest on a VGA cooler like the Antics IV one or if I should first invest on a new case for better airflow and make the radiator Push/Pull with 4 fans rather than 2.
late coyote
@left adder i dont think if you need more that this air flow its more than enough
left adder
Yeah another forum had told me to just get the mesh panel for the p300a which fits my case. Trying to find it since it’s out of stock.
Might still do the VGA cooler if I don’t decide to upgrade to the 3080 or 3090 in the next few months of release.
oak anvil
guys do you think its possible to build a fairly decent 60fps 1080p gaming pc for around $400?
money problems is all 😅
autumn wolf
depends what games youre playing but id recommend saving a bit more
oak anvil
well thing is i'm 14 and money is ya know
hard to come by, mainly because no one i know is working and i can't exactly help them
molten cedar
I think saving is still the recommended strategy. Or that’s at least what I would do. Until you get just enough to buy a decent build that will last you longer @oak anvil
flat fern
@oak anvil I also wanted to build a pc for low cost €500 but when I got the money I knew that if I saved a bit more I could have much better specs and I could play more demanding games. Now I got a pc worth around €900, which is great.
Just take any opportunity to get money for work.
It's worth waiting
little osprey
Yeah especially these days with ryzen and the new Nvidia cards a bit extra money can go a long way
molten cedar
Need help, picking out a new cpu and motherboard for my new build. Any recommendations? Budget is eh. Haven’t decided yet. I just don’t really know which of those work amazing together
desert swan
What kind of use @molten cedar ?
molten cedar
Gaming, checking my stonks, video editing. But nothing crazy either
desert swan
" picking out a new cpu and motherboard for my build. " I guess you have some Old part u currently use. what is your PSU and CPU and Ram you got atm.
also u keep your current GPU?
are you AMD or Intel Fanboy or You dont care , until its cheep and good for the price.
molten cedar
Damn. My fault. Poor choice of words. I meant I’m building a second pc and need help picking out parts etc. of course with either the 3070 or 3080 gpu in mind. My current pc is the R5 3600 with a 5600 XT graphics card but I’m just gonna give that one to my bro. Neither of those matter. Just want my computer to pump and party while at a reasonable price
desert swan
can't link this here mr.bot autoerease.
cold sorrel
Ugh. I think my laptop's screen is dying. Good thing I already bought the new monitor for my future desktop build... if the laptop screen fails I can just hook it to the monitor.
odd crypt
stoic island
@little osprey PCIe 4.0 speeds are just not noticeable in most applications
little osprey
Definitely not gaming which is what most people care about
Unless it's like flight sim 2020 at 4k but idk
unborn solstice
@trim thorn i prefer intel but its up to u. in a constrained budged id go with amd. maybe a ryzen 7 for the work
trim thorn
@trim thorn i prefer intel but its up to u. in a constrained budged id go with amd. maybe a ryzen 7 for the work
@unborn solstice Thank you, there are a few different AMDs and Ryzens. Which one would work best for me?
unborn solstice
honestly not sure. if this pc is more for workloads and stuff like that u should get a better cpu. if its mostly for gaming/graphics get a better gpu
balance the costs of each component with your needs
little osprey
Should I get the 3070 when it comes out and if so will it be able to run with the i9-9900k
analog hearth
Yes and yes
torn bramble
I am trying to build a pc under $600 that can smoothly run AAA games, anyone know what my specs should be
foggy hazel
@left adder i would strongly recommend that you check your outlets and figure out if there is a different outlet that runs from a different group in the fusebox. Because your idle wonderings are all things that take more power. So, solving your fusebox situation would be the most practical thing for you to do.
left adder
@foggy hazel sadly that’s something we spoke to the building managers about and it seems they can’t really help. The way my room is setup would mean I’d have to rearrange the entire place and rewire my routers accordingly. But to be fair my room doesn’t get that how until summer time, and even then it’s only when the PC gets hotter than 75°
foggy hazel
think about maybe running a single extension cord from somewhere else in the house
is the normal solution for people with a fusebox problem :)
foggy hazel
re: itx: technically yes
foggy hazel
there are some intel ones, but they are old and expensive as all heck
little osprey
then yeah no
foggy hazel
what are you trying to do?
foggy hazel
specifically for the itx part is what i am curious about here
little osprey
oh
this supports a mini itx
as the second pc
and the main is any size technically
well
tbh i can just go atx for second pc
and just build in a different case
foggy hazel
what is it, that you are having trouble getting the ITX system to solve?
little osprey
its moreso I want to have a 10gig card
but
ill need a gpu if I use windows server
im not using windows server offically yet
im just covering bases
foggy hazel
"ill need a gpu if using windows server" <- onboard gpu is a thing.
foggy hazel
easy solution, choose a part that fits the solution instead of a part that you have on hand.
foggy hazel
itx is a serious of compromises with the intent set on making a system that fits a specific purpose.
foggy hazel
what you linked is a atx build?
little osprey
yeah
its what I have onhand
like here at my house
minitx is if I go my dual pc route
i don't have to do so but it would've been cool
foggy hazel
lets start from the top: Currently what i know about your system is that you want to use a hellish expensive case (fair enough, its your choice, but its a fair deal of money to use for no practical gain)
foggy hazel
you want to do a raid setup
little osprey
yes
foggy hazel
and you want/would-like to go dual system
little osprey
lets cross that out
foggy hazel
none of the above "mesh" with the parts you just linked :)
foggy hazel
because your outlined plan is not a budget friendly solution like the parts you listed.
little osprey
so lets do this
base it off this
because that gives me the ability to add a raid card if needed and a 10gig ethernet
and its gonna have to be separate
which works but its not my dream idea lol
can save alot of money just using what I have
right now we are looking at just storage case network
foggy hazel
you might want to have a serious look at FreeNAS
little osprey
yeah
yeah
exactly what I was thinking of
i couldnt figure the name out
allows docker and VM
OH MAN
thats perfect actually
like super perfect
is that os free?
foggy hazel
yes
little osprey
then what my new idea
does x570 support 2600
I know thats an odd pariing
its for upgradablity
foggy hazel
depends on the specific board, but generally yes they should.
little osprey
cause Ill probably change motherboard and upgrade the cpu later on down the road
im gonna do some fiddling and come back with what I have
foggy hazel
for the stoarage server side of things, you dont need to
little osprey
i want to be able to do game servers along side so
foggy hazel
ah.
little osprey
thats how the VM's come in handy
foggy hazel
again, you are not making it easy for anyone to actually "get" what you are talking about :)
little osprey
okay let me explain
foggy hazel
i would strongly recommend that you sit down and make a list of the features you absolutely NEED and also a list of what would be nice to HAVE.
i am saying the above to enable you to get the best possible advice when you ask for help.
little osprey
I want to be able to have a local storage server that can store backups/various files I want to keep but take off my main pc
the other thing i want to be able to do is pretty much run https://pterodactyl.io/ this panel which would be running my game servers Like rust/minecraft
and I wanted to try to use the hardware I have here https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ynM7k6
Does that make sense?
foggy hazel
it makes perfect sense, aside from the missing requirements :)
little osprey
missing requiremnts?
Ah yes the features
I don't honestly know how to explain to do so
Freenas does what I need
Allows VM's and File Sharing
foggy hazel
then you just have a bunch of reading to do
foggy hazel
aquantia iirc.
little osprey
then the last question
Harddrives
which is suggested
im going to go with 10tb instead of the size i had
I already know this is a bad build so how do I improve it for a price of $650 at most
foggy hazel
@little osprey when exactly are you building?
little osprey
@foggy hazel how can I improve that build will staying on a $650 budget
early october if stuff pans out correctly
foggy hazel
@little osprey start by waiting. I am working on something else at the moment.
little osprey
Ok no problem sorry to rush
foggy hazel
@little osprey i would have to get back to you on that one. I dont have a good answer for that size in my head.
little osprey
Okay no big deal when you figure something out lemme know
backblaze gives good ideas of failure rate
foggy hazel
will do.
little osprey
so i may check their stuff
foggy hazel
my problem is the prices i have in my head are the enterprise "prices"
and they are NOT what you will be paying :)
viral ore
@little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8zLgRk
tbh, the build list is fine, especially when constrained by 650. so i just picked a cheaper motherboard and a better gpu
little osprey
Ok thanks
foggy hazel
thank you @viral ore for fixing that :)
deep skiff
if its 650 u might be able to put a 1660s in it
pallid token
So How about Z570
stoic island
Z?
pallid token
Sorry z390
stoic island
Uhh
pallid token
it will fit! thanks
mystic pine
hi guys! can someone make me an i7 9700kf build with a FUMA 2 cooler and a Asus TUF z390 pro motherboard
i already have the i7 so don’t include it
still roostBOT
Necro#8860 has been warned
little osprey
Hey there guys! I need help revamping my pcparkpicker list. My budget is 3K and I want it to hit that amount. Thanks! https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jkwbFG
little osprey
why the 3090?
little osprey
agh this is why i need help..
little leaf
and the price of that 10900k is 200 over msrp
foggy hazel
what is the purpose of that machine @little osprey ?
little osprey
I know, i can get it from bestbuy for like 530
Its for streaming and gaming
I might just do a prebuilt
little osprey
so what should i do then
little leaf
build it yourself
little osprey
thats 👏 why 👏 I 👏 need 👏 help 👏
little osprey
Oh, he is?
foggy hazel
i can be
little osprey
That would be awesome
foggy hazel
okay, i think i have sorted the other things. So, @little osprey any particular reason for the 3k budget?
little osprey
That is the amount that I have set aside to get myself an awesome PC
foggy hazel
when will you be building?
little osprey
the launch date?
foggy hazel
yes
little osprey
what about it?
foggy hazel
at the absolute earliest that is when you would be able to get those particular parts
little osprey
yep
little osprey
I mean, I am a bit impatient so I was leaning towards a prebuilt, but I guess it depends on what we come up with
foggy hazel
a prebuilt is NOT going to be here any earlier
little osprey
and also, if I get all the parts, then I don't get the 3080, im screwed lmao
foggy hazel
aye, nothing is different from that and a package being lost in transit
so you are equally boned either way.
little osprey
... ;-;
foggy hazel
what monitor is this being used on?
little osprey
I will be spending a total of 5K on this setup, so 2K of it will be going to all the other stuff including monitors
so idk
little osprey
wdym?
foggy hazel
why those particular parts
autumn wolf
aside from "a really good pc"
little osprey
I don't really know to be honest, what I do know is that they are good parts that can make a great PC?