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yea
also aim
for a psu in the psu list
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Anyone have any ideas why my RGB strip won’t turn on?
make sure what strip you have is supported by your board, theres a difference between 5v and 12v, and if supported, make sure you have it in the correct way
Oh that’s good to know there are different strips
I probably bought the wrong lol I tried both ways
Thank you
wait dont take it away
i didnt get it

nvm i switched channels and didnt realize it

Do you suppose my power supply could be the problem with my msi board? It's pretty weak, but someone told me it would be good enough
I've re-seated everything
Lemme check
and ur watts
and power supply wattage and rating?
Rating meaning E.g (80+ Gold, bronze, etc.)
CORSAIR TX Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE
it should work
if you have another mobo around use that
what gpu
Gpu is a 4gb sapphire r9 270x 4gb right now
No post. All the lights and fans turn on, but no beeps or anything
like gabe said
its definitely a problem with your motherboard
The cpu and vga leds on the mobo come on. They're white
Ez debug or whatever they're called
wait
Like it alternates between those two
it could be a problem with ur psu then. it could have fried or something
im really not sure
sorry
if you have another board and another psu try troubleshooting with that
what gabe said
Yeah, I don't really
A bunch of old stuff I guess
Ill probably get a new psu since I planned on getting one eventually anyway
it might be gpu too
I think I may have gotten a defective cpu or motherboard. Could I PM someone for help?
from newegg
Yes
Brand new from Newegg just got them delivered this weekend
I’ve been trying to troubleshoot the issue as much as I can just seems to be no display.
Ok. hopefully I can get this figured out. Not sure why pc isn’t displaying anything. Def feel like I got a defective motherboard
It’s an msi b450-a pro Max. And a amd 3200g. 16gb ram. Basically I installed everything outside the case and tested it to make sure it’ll turn on. And I got no display recognition from my monitor (tried 2 of em) The motherboard ez debug led has cpu light on hit I took cpu out and checked it and it looks good. I reset cmos, replugged every wire again to make sure it’s not a power issue.
Still had no display
Did that aswell
I haven’t checked the cpu in another motherboard. I have to see if my friend would let me come over n try on his build
Do that, because there's a decent chance the CPU could be dead
@ancient comet did you checked all the parts compatibility on https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ ?
Yes. Everything was compatible
Some mobos need a bios flash out of the box to accept some processors
they said b450m pro max
max boards have pre-flashed bios
@ancient comet can you confirm that's the EXACT board you have?
I can confirm it is the exact motherboard. It says Ryzen 3000 ready on the box
My friend is out of town dammit I can’t try his cpu. But I found someone on Facebook marketplace who builds pc’s and offered him 20 bux to let me come over and see if my cpu will work on any of his builds. Atleast then I can see where the issue is and can Atleast confirm either cpu or motherboard is doa
Be careful no to bend a pin or you'll cry
Bcus newegg is gonna ask you to bend the knee and eat 🍆
No pins were bent
Good question any answer?
@wary geode hmm CPU or GPU? Far as I know fortnite is more dependant on GPU
lol some kid asked that XD
Hey Steve. Sounds a lot like my problem. Msi board too
Oh shoot Foreal?
My leds say cpu and vga
This issue sucks man idk why it’s happening
Mines just says cpu led
No display at all but everything turns on
Brand new 3600 and old video card that worked fine before
Yeah same here
Lights look beautiful though. And the fans and case are quiet. So that's nice
Yea. Man I haven’t even put the graphics card in because I literally didn’t get any display with the 3200G in and I was like wtf. I should have display I think it’s a defective motherboard cuz I’ve tried a bunch of thing
Yeah, I don't want to send anything back. So I'm hoping it's my old psu causing it
I wouldn’t wanna wait and send anything back either man but hey if they sent me a defective part I want my money back / or a replacement cuz this is just getting annoying now. I have to just check the cpu in another motherboard and see if that’s the issue. Only way to find out I guess ?
@ancient comet are you using the ingrated video in the CPU? Or external GPU?
The cpu has intergrated graphics. So at first I used no graphics card. And then I tried the graphics card after I got no display still
I bought a msi 570 8gb but that’s not the issue, I don’t believe it is. Half the time it wasn’t in and I was still having the no display issue
After you used external GPU still no display? Then it might not be the processor
Sounds to me like mobo
Have you tried to clear the CMOS?
Man I will say it is defective mobo
It is very rare to get a defective processor
I got me few weeks ago a gigabyte 450 pro wifi and I love that thing
Yeah man I truly don’t know what the issue is, motherboard or cpu. What should I do guys?
No beeps
?
wdym
I'm still leaning towards dead CPU
@proud fiber what does no beeping have to do with not dead cpu
i need suggestions on what to do with a rotary encoder
wut dat
spiney boi
ikr
I could just mean the board doesn''t have a speaker
Far as I know constant beeping means dead CPU
??????
wat
Constant beeping is CPU overheating on msi boards
that's the only time it beeps
that's the only time I've ever had my board beep
no all boards lmao
Yea not all boards do anyways
not*
I'm pretty sure the board doesn't beep at you if the CPU is dead
I'll look at manuals for gigabyte and asus boards rq
Look this community is to try and help ppl, that's what I am trying to do based on my small knowledge
But seems you are more focused on trying to prove me wrong
We're focused on something that we've never heard of
Which I am more than happy if you do because that will add to my small experience****
Go ahead and let me know
I can't find a single thing on beeping to indicate dead CPU
https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_b550m-ds3h_e.pdf
Here's the manual I used to quickly look around
Gigabyte B550m DS3H since you said you used gigabyte
There's this if your case supports a speaker, but they also don't provide a chart for beep codes...
this was what I was talking about with CPU overheating beeping
Let's say I AM TOTALLY WRONG ON THE BEEPING SITUATION, I am still thinking CPU is not the issue. It is VERY RARE TO GET A DEAD CPU out of the box and it is more frequently to get dead MOBO.
@floral flare go to https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ add all your PC parts and check the energy consumption that will give you an idea on what to get
That's true, but considering the mobo is at least supplying power to fans, and debug LEDs work, I'd say both chances are similar
I suggest a cooler master mb511 ot td500
@floral flare uhhhh Ventus OC is pretty bad
i build it here
The heatsink is not good
they will install it
oh boy ibp
Yes
I'd say you can build it with 1200$ with better parts
ok
like 400
also remember nvidia 30xx series is announcing tomorrow
ya
ok
that's just leaks tho
yes
gotta wait for tomorrow ;D
100% yes
ok
Example thing, better ram better ssd better case better psu lol
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nys6YH
yes, i plan to change to 32gb
ok
i also edit video
Do you mainly do premiere?
if anything get more storage
yes, premiere and gaming
like a hard drive and a 1tb ssd
ya, was just example that looked like IBP PC
1tb ssd, es
Is premiere your job, or do you spend a ton of time in premiere?
Just so you know, Adobe products are really Intel optimised
so it might be worth going like a 10700k
yeah and just pure gaming wise, intel wins by like 5-10 frames
example thing:
But there is no MOBO ready for those 3000 GPU series or I'm wrong?
I mean not just yet
Yea, just saying tho
130 dollars
yes
which is a lot
Adobe do like them Intel chips
¯_(ツ)_/¯
i think ryzen is ok. Intel would be a lot better though
Ryzen is fine
For me ryzzen is better and cheaper
@proud fiber Unless Nvidia pulls another proprietary connector out of their rear, next gen GPUs should be compatible with any boards with PCIe x16 slots
what is the coller master again?
Coolermaster TD 500 mesh
@stoic island which we won't know until the release
ok
It would be an extremely dumb move from Nvidia
not in there
most mobos with wifi are good
lemme take a quick look
ok
just check the heatsink
i need it wifi
MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI will work decently
and you also have the option of going non-wifi board and slapping like a T6E on it
ok
I don't love MSI
I'm impartial towards all the other motherboard companies
Had an asus rocking for 10 years. Died like 2 months ago
I just own a MSI board
wait
others, good to buy
don't buy yet
wait before everything is ready to buy
You don't want DoA parts that you can't check after they're out of the return window
That card is found cheaper on newegg
i think i will buy from anywhere, and build it at home
Yes
Don't do the buy from Amazon thing
amazon usually is not the cheapest marketplace
Just buy separately
Even BH is cheaper
B&H and Newegg are my fav retailers :P
ok
also can ya give me an upper limit on budget? might improve some things
Gotcha
With 2k you can build 2 rocking gaming PC
you add a hard drive?
Who knows when you'll want extra space for projects you completed that you're not working on
i'd prob get the 32gb but yea that looks about textbook as it gets lol
Come back in like 2 days after we know specs and AIB pricing, and the 30xx series start poping up on retailers so we can tell you what to change depending on the situation
honestly, premier seems to eat ram, 32gb ram isn't that much more money
We can slap in 2x16gb ram next time we work on the list
my laptop has 16gb
yeah honestly having music, discord and a AAA game eats around 12GB for me
so i prob would go for a 2x16 kit
especially at 2k budget lol
now is good
I have 2x16 kit and I never used up more than 16gb unintentionally
(It'll likely be a good idea to grab 32gb in their case, but it's not for everyone)
nice nice
But seriously try rammap if you find yourself short on ram
I think it's pinned in the memory channel
im using 7gb listening to youtube and on discord?
2133mhz?
did cleared some sets in rammap
wait mr1111 didnt u say u had 32gb?
School laptop
o nice
this is running like LPDDR3 too
my school chromebook has 4gb of ram lol
oh nice
i have a 60GB ssd on my school chromebook
btw your iGPU kinda shreds my iGPU
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/Intel-Iris-650-vs-Intel-UHD-620/3790vs4102
this has a 256gb ssd with 236gb usable
xps 15
XPS 15 is pretty nice iirc?
and i dont use that much now
lol
bios is all locked down
lmao unlucky
oh unlucky
here
🤟
@little osprey @ripe quest currently the 3600x is only $10 more than the regular 3600 so that's why I went with 3600x
Ya
that's fine
Usually 3600 is like 160$, so people could slap those in and forget about it
hm ok
I'm a 3800x owner, I would know, never buy 3800x.
my limit is $1000 so that's why the build looks like this. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R7VrTC
I bought it for 330$ like 2 months after launch when it was just a bit more than the 3700x
not impressed
That fan irks me the wrong way for some reason
I just don't like it :P
get a Arctic p12 maybe
Wait @plush wigeon what happeend to my 5700xt build lmao
oh something increased in price so I have to adjust to go back under $1000
unless u really want rgb there is a kit of 3600 cl16 2x8 corsair non rgb momory for 62 dollars and the u can get a phanteks p300a for 60 dollars
I told you I didn't like the case.
Then change the case lmao
I chose this case because I liked it best
@ripe quest where
Change the case
I have not seen any 3600c16 kits at 62$
Wtf
cheapest 3600cl16 kit ive seen is like 70 rn
Never seen that before lol
Yeah usually like 70-75
yea they usually hover around the 70s
@stoic island i saw it yesterday the prices might have went back up
lemme check real quick
I doubt it ever was
There was a kit that showed 62$ on pcpp but showed like 80$ on amazon
PCPP was just drunk
maybe you remembered that?
crap my bad
lol
don't worry I adjusted the ram. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mqdjtp back under $1000 no sales tax here btw
nooooooooo what happened to the prices of the arctic fans
they used to be 8$ a piece
Sn750 is overpriced rn
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2Rz8n7 @plush wigeon i tried to fit a 5700xt
Can find it at $62 sometimes
decent list but a lot less storage, can always throw a 2tb hdd in down the line
i think ember is the person we ahve helped the most with a build, ever
def not for me
most people come to this channel and get 1 person helping them with a build
still its a lot of people
I've seen like 5 people working on lists for one guy
I think I also have like a 400 message long dm with a guy that wanted help
lemme check
Tbh the price of the ssd rn doesn't really matter, not planning to make the buy for a couple more months
@stoic island why not a 5700xt
I kinda do want to know how many messages were sent but it looks like discord is too tired
Also, I am relatively new to this, and a first time builder.
And the. Said no to it because they didnt like the case I chose so they said no it
So I said just change the case
pure gaming perf list :
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fzh6YH
I really gotta start doing my apush hw now
I'll see yall around
Anyone have a nzxt h510 case?
dat case not so good airflow tho
its a good looking, good priced case
All that matters to me is Price and Performance
Bad airflow
Yeah, I just have a question about it
What's the question
Sent a video
unscrew those
and then push towards the back of the case
Do you guys think it would be okay to put a very slight overclock on a GPU for a PC flip or nah
I don't really see why
i mean ive heard people that are like "let the buyer do that on their own if they want overclocks arent super safe" etc
i mean, they can be safe, but, you know what i mean
yeah I get what you mean ;p
Okay here’s my build and I need a suggestion for power supply and case.
CPU
Ryzen 5 3600
CPU Cooler
Cooler master 212 evo
MB
X570 tuf
Memory
Corsair vengeance 2x8
Storage
WD 500 gb
Anything I should change?
Or any suggestion
toaster flipping is my gig 😎
What you got in stock
No graphics card?
I am down to a cheap toaster oven and a Hello Kitty toaster
They both are awful for toast
Although the latter does toast Hello Kitty on your bread
Yeah🥴 I won’t be able to plug Ethernet cord to pc so
Yeah cause I would change the mb
Okay here’s my build and I need a suggestion for power supply and case.
CPU
Ryzen 5 3600
CPU Cooler
Cooler master 212 evo
MB
X570 tuf
Memory
Corsair vengeance 2x8
Storage
WD 500 gb
@hoary flower id actually change a few things first
Don't get a hyper 212 evo. The ryzen 3600 comes with a cooler
Why such an expensive motherboard? Just get a cheap B550 like the DS3H.
Is that storage an SSD or an HDD? WD blue or WD green or WD red or what?
What speed ram and what Cas Latency?
Power supply can be a good 450w, like the Corsair CX450. If you want more wattage for future upgrades, CX550 is a good option too.
For case, whatever you like is fine. Fractal Design Focus G is a good option. Cougar MX-330G is good too. Phanteks eclips P300A mesh good too, etc.
maybe go to the r5 2600 and get a 1660 ti
no dont do that ^
oh lol
1660 super performs almost identical to 1660 TI
and the 1600 AF/2600s are stupid overpriced rn
But i guess the 3600 is too.
If the 3600 is $200 where you are, just jump to 3600X. It's only like $10 more
Hi guys, hope things are going well. I am about to post my first list....
i got mine for 140
that mobo is way overpriced
and dont get a 212 evo cause the r5 3600 has a stock cooler already
@fast dust I chose that motherboard based on the WiFi and such. But I opted the cooler because I didn’t know if it would perform well with the in box one. Storage is SSD blue. I’ll probably get a higher wattage power supply so I won’t have to upgrade that too if I upgrade other
In my area the prices are only going up
Get a B550 with wifi, or cheap B550 + PCIe WiFi adapter
and i think there is a $100 1tb m.2
wait crap u want wifi
ya
the stock cpu cooler is good on the r5 3600
i didnt know b550 had wifi
no way youll need a hyper 212 evo
mhm
Okay well that will save me $30!
But yeah it’s mainly the WiFi part of not I would opt for a cheaper mb
If*
Yes first build so not going crazy
With $$$
hey
hi
MSI B550m pro vdh
does that have wifi
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor
Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard
G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory
Primary HDD - Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
Secondary HDD - Seagate BarraCuda 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive
Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card
Deepcool MATREXX 55 V3 ADD-RGB WH ATX Mid Tower Case
Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Yes
uh
for 110$
is that for a workstation?
@little osprey what about it
bc that processor seems like extra for the gpu
thats good tho
2060 super for a bit over 1000 is good
worth the little extra
I like it
Reason: Duplicated text
it'll be under a thousand whenever the 3600 goes back to normal price
its usually like 170-180 ish
from what i've seen it's always hovered around 170
Reason: Duplicated text
Reason: Too many infractions
3D artist, attempting to get back into the game industry as a dev, sorry i accidently pasted the list without explanation first.
So basically, I need a workstation for creating and quick rendering 3D props, and working with game engines such as Unreal, Unity,
and other ones, I work with 3D packages such as 3DS Max, Maya, will learn zBrush, also use substance painter and photoshop....
When it comes to CPU power and GPU power for rendering, I have not made up my mind, so I kind of am concentrated on having both CPU and GPU to be good.
With this list, I am looking at a little over $1340.00 more or less. A slight inconvenience for the my overall $1200 budget. But not too bad.
So this is my first attempt at making a list. I am learning, I want to build it so I know what I am putting into it,
and also learn the knowledge, experience, and pass it on.
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor
Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard
G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory
Primary HDD - Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
Secondary HDD - Seagate BarraCuda 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive
Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card
Deepcool MATREXX 55 V3 ADD-RGB WH ATX Mid Tower Case
Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
What do you guys think?
Any advice helps, I appreciate peeps!
whoa, sorry for the long post folks... I can take this in another chat if needed.
First, wait for tomorrow's Nvidia announcement
nah that's what this chat is for, try using pcpartpicker.com next time
I tried posting the link@stoic island
but it didn't follow thru once I hit the ENTER
Try posting it without https
aahh ok lol
Stop spam
who?
holy jesus that PSU is overpriced atm
Thanks @stoic island
Do you need wifi?
even if he does, switch to that b550 with wifi from before
idk if thatll work well with the 3800x
It is huh, I can wait for that part to come down, or just choose a different one, I am still learning here, never built a machine before. and kind of nervous, but having fun learning about the different components.
but it is cheaper
I could go with a ethernet connection, and buy a wifi router later
do you have a ethernet plugin for the wall
where i currently live, no @errant berry
or would you need to buy something to make an ethernet connection
ok
imo id stick with wifi then
@stoic island would the b550 with wifi be ok with the 3800x?
I will be moving out though within a year, and maybe area where I move to may, I should just set up to to keep ethernet connection huh, from there I can also do wifi easily after, outer hardware stuff
ohh ok
especially if you plan to use wifi too bc it can get expensive
Temp list:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tr9qcq
A b550 would be okay if you dont plan on overlooking a lot
I see
ok
Better ram, cheaper SSD but still good, went b550 board, nicer case because why not, less overkill PSU
and better GPU
placeholder for now, let's wait for tomorrow's announcements
Hey y’all so I got an optiolex build with like 4 gn ram and a 5200 rpm hdd lol I’m gonna replace it and upgrade the ram they’re just temp with the i5 3300. But windows keeps crashing is that the hdd fault? I’m using the same install I use on my main
Better ram, cheaper SSD but still good, went b550 board, nicer case because why not, less overkill PSU
@stoic island thanks man!
You're welcome, that list will likely change once Nvidia announce all the good stuff about the 30xx series of GPUs
You're welcome, that list will likely change once Nvidia announce all the good stuff about the 30xx series of GPUs
@stoic island oh yeah? When will they announce?
Oh! ok cool! I will look it up for sure.
Unless I'm imagining things again tomorrow is sept 1
How was my build overall though, the PSU was overkill huh, I wasn't sure what to look for there.
Lol tmrw the 31st
Well, it was 250$ for a start xD
I think Tuesday is Sept 1
oh you're screwing with me
ehm
okay then
ignore whenever I said "tomorrow"
and put "tuesday" in there
xD
Hey y’all so I got an optiolex build with like 4 gn ram and a 5200 rpm hdd lol I’m gonna replace it and upgrade the ram they’re just temp with the i5 3300. But windows keeps crashing is that the hdd fault? I’m using the same install I use on my main
Jajaja
What BSOD code
It said like ahax failed or something lemme see I just rebooted it should happen any second now
Nvm now it’s deciding to work lmao
I’ll let you know if it happens again but imma eat dinner thanks man
Fr doe it’s been happening fr months tho
use the thing pined in #windows-ios by forks
it's useful for un-bsoding software issues
Ight bet
Alright so someone suggested pcpartpicker.com/list/fyc6YH instead
Of what I just sent
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NVMGK4 this is what i sent earlier meant for you
A b550 would be okay if you dont plan on overlooking a lot
@rain bone what do you mean by overlooking a lot? Did you mean overclocking? I don't intend to, if it ever gets to the point where I am pushing the machine constantly, hopefully, I will be in a place where I can upgrade.
That’s not bad! I meant to comment on that and budget wasn’t crazily passed plus. But what do you think of the one I just sent because it is beating my budget lol and it’ll give me more room to expand my setup
@stoic island so like now it’s just going black and restarting.....
the list you have isn't that bad, i would change the ssd as you can get a faster one for only a few more dollars, case seems fine, but what's the total overall budget you have @hoary flower?
do you already have peripherals like a monitor mouse keyboard etc?
ya its a little more for a m.2
To which ssd? I have keyboard mouse just not monitor
m.2
mhm
a good monitor too for cheap is the spectre 144hz on amazon
its like 150
27" curved
idk the response time
yeah i was going to say like a sceptre 165hz ips for like $180 i think it was or an msi optix g241 for 190
ya
Now in the future what are some upgradable options I can do? I’m completely new to the pc build world. I want to be easily able to upgrade without breaking the bank too
3600 can go up to a 2080 super without too much bottleneck
mhm
having 2.5tb of storage is great to have
facts
a good sized case with enough clearance for all the parts you have and extra room for future improvement
Like basically if I upgrade I won’t have to change the whole entire build just to be compatible or so. I probably won’t need that much storage unless I become much more serious with pc gaming for now I’ll stick with that amount of storage.
500gb does go very quick
🥴
but you could always throw a 2tb hdd in whenever so yeah it's fine to cut it out for now
only another $50 expense down the line
Not bad
id do the gpu tho
especially with the new cards coming out soon
and supposedly its cheaper than before bc they used a different supplier
Yeah but thanks so much! Y’all all big help
i would wait a little while until the new gpus come out just to see your options at that time again
@little osprey @ripe quest currently the 3600x is only $10 more than the regular 3600 so that's why I went with 3600x
@plush wigeon ok
Can anyone help me put together a gaming pc for $700 without a psu
I am not very good at picking out lower end builds
yes. My friend is going to use his he already has
Which psu?
let me ask him
Yeah we want to know tier
mhm
he just asked me to help and didnt say much else besides he prefers intel and wants 16gb of ram at at least 2666MHZ
...
intel for a budget build?
Well, at that budget, if you want a decent PC, you're not gonna get 2666mhz+ xD
mhm
Because dem z490 boards are expensive
Yes, its for his flight sim
Can he tolerate AMD
ohhh a 700 will be interesting with flight sim
idk the requirements for it
but im sure its steep
tell me about it. He is one of those people as soon as he gets money he wants to spent it on a pc haha. doesnt wanna save more
But can he tolerate AMD
he should save if he wants to run flight sim
at least at a decent fps
agreed
He can stand it
from the clips ive seen, it looks demanding
Min spec is fine
wow i actually got the recommended card
oh
then that's easier
sorry about that. haha
Yeah
lol
Anyone that comes around here nowadays and says "flight sim" we're gonna assume fs2020 xD
agreed
yea x plane and such is simpler
he doesnt like fs2020
Why?
how
I'm making an AMD list
its so pretty
I have no clue
Yeah
game pass and its free
60?????? why so cheap haha
That's for standard
I never buy any games over 25$ hehe
I bought the premium deluxe
Oof
I'm like one of those pcmasterrace guys
lol
Enjoy your handcrafted airports lol
that only gets cheaper games on sale
lol
idc how much i spend on a game
But I still have a great libary never paying for any triple a games
ill normally buy the base game tho
im just waiting for sao alicization lycorsis to become optimized
is it good?
it is
just the anti cheat messes it up
bc its horribly optimized
i should be getting 100+ fps
i get like 40
but there is a workaround to disable it and play the game
oh mmo game eh
Black Desert Online
cool
You seen new ep of sao?
his legs tho
yea lol
@stoic island Thank you
same
gabriel didnt cut horizontally
@stoic island I dont need a psu he said he wants to use his old one. Anything I can take that 74 and add to
2 options
upgrad CPU to a 3600
or do other adjustments such as getting a 2tb hdd for extra storage and getting a nicer case
@errant berry maybe the nullification magic thingy (tbh that looked nice visually but no idea how to explain it) only protected his upper body
You can get a 1tb MP34 instead of 512gb
ok
that actually lowers price haha
Can you make a intel one. Or just change mobo and cpu
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BcVdsk this is the list he put together.
after I sent him that amd build
First, he's 50$ over budget, second, b365 board is going to hard cap his ram to 2666mhz @thorny bronze
Ok
:p
Why intel lmao
I dont know.
Intel bad gor budget systems
I know haha but its what he wants
Z390 board
If he's going down the wrong path, you can roast him later about it, that's one way to teach him xD
Ok, I was gonna choose that just wanted to stay lower price
Only z-motherboards for Intel don't limit ram to 2666mhz
Ok thats what I thought just wasnt sure fully
Whats a good cheap intel cpu that has 3.7 or more GHz
I am not very good on intel lower end side haha
Idek tbh
Im stuck haha
I wouldn't go below a 10600k for an Intel build because below that is stupid so....
Don't really know that territory
how do you guys figure out what kind of cooling fans are needed? Is that something I have to look at when getting the PC Case first?
Uh not really
And after getting all the parts, and assembling then into the case alreadY?
Airflow is just once it's good enough, it's good enough. And in an ordinary case with decent airflow, 2 fans in the front 1 fan in the back is the usual setup
oh ok, I know the AMD chip im getting already comes with a cooling fan,
oh ok
Airflow is just once it's good enough, it's good enough. And in an ordinary case with decent airflow, 2 fans in the front 1 fan in the back is the usual setup
@stoic island
so in this case for my PC list, I will need two to three more fans, I just go off the specs in the case I so choose
Uhh cases usually come with fans installed
Lol Mr1 I have 3 intakes one exaust
Yea
oh ok
I mean two exausts
Haha I think I have 6 intakes and one exhaust
Hey, I have 3 intake 3 exhaust lol
But my GPU makes alotta heat too tbh
oh wow
Mine is overkill
What kinda pc do you have\
Me?
no @stoic island
3800x and 2070 for mr111
Ya
Is it possible to oc an Android phone?
That's what I'm going for
@stoic island Thanks for the help. I suck at lower end builds
You're welcome, but I kinda suck too xD
is it possible to mount a 92mm fan diagonally on a 70mm fan mount 
You all could think outside the box and offer suggestions to people that are based on your knowledge rather than give hardline answers. A computer build has the ability to be exactly what a member wants without having the absolute best in every category... I’ve seen some terrible comments here that are less than helpful. If someone in any line of commerce asks for something, you may suggest a solid “using this is better” item, but ultimately the customer is right. It’s no one’s fault but theirs later if they are suck at a certain MHz ram or have a bottlenecked CPU.
Not without customization @lyric thistle You would need to pre drill a small hole, and then use a small shank self tapping screw. Ensure you don’t go into the fan housing, or damage any mobo components. Why do you need a diagonal mount?
Now, here is a fun detail for you, nothing prevents you from weighing in
Since I just joined @foggy hazel I thoroughly plan to. Thanks 😉
as for "hardline" answers: Its a mixed bag
it really depends on the interaction/response you get from the person asking for help
The best now is not the best forever, but with the pandemic many people are looking for a “value” build to meet their needs
some will ask something that "looks" like a open talk for debate
True
but what they are actually asking for is someone else to make the decision for them
which i personally dont do
i will happily inform them about the upsides and the downsides
but the choice is theirs
True... I am looking to gradually build a $4k+ system, and I’ve been on the roller coaster as to AMD or Intel for weeks now. It’s been one hell of a ride
the regular/standard question for that would be: what do you plan to actually use the machine for?
High end gaming/streaming. I’ve been over 4,200 almost every time. Dual GPU’s in SLI is one of the biggest cost inflators
you are hopefully aware that SLI/xfire is just about useless right?
I have a single monitor, I have also been looking at 2 split cards for dual monitors as a second build option
That is another $350+ for my second monitor
You dont need 2 cards for 2 monitors
you are aware that you dont need a card per monitor right?
You can have 4 monitors per card or more
What is the load on the card with 4 monitors?
in desktop mode? nothing you will notice
Nothing at all
Will there be a noticeable difference between a 2080 super 8gb and 2080 Ti 11gb? I’ve seen some benchmark tests that show a 15-30 FPS difference between 1080p and 4k
Decent
there are a couple of things that seem to signal that you are not quite aware of what exactly it is you are asking there @warped prism
The benchmark tests were among a series of about 20 current top games, the 15-30fps difference was average among all games. This was in conjunction with a 10,900k intel cpu. I believe it was 32gb ram, not sure of the mobo as I don’t believe that was mentioned.
The difference was between each card running at high settings
Next gen GPUs :D
unless you are going to be playing those exact 20 games, then that benchmark does not really tell you much
and even IF you are going to playing those 20 exact games, it still doesnt tell you much.
one of the games could easily be having horrendous performance.
what i am getting at here is this: Details matter.
Just keep in mind everything varies depending on the exact situation.
I understand, I want the ability to play whatever I want without constraints. The questions is what is the primary difference between the 2080 super 8gb and 2080 Ti 11gb and would I notice a difference. I understand there are other variables and am trying to make an educated decision. Variable aside, how do the cards compare? That is the primary goal in the asking of my question
IF you go beyond 1080p, you should fairly easily "see" a difference between the two. It is completely different IF that difference is worth the current price of the 2080TI thou.
and what i said above, also applies to past generations of cards, and future generations of card
there is always "some" cards in a given generation that are simply bad value.
Next generation cards will likely make 2080 super and 2080ti bad buys at their current price.
they perform lovely, but you get to pay a LOT for a small % increase
@stoic island which is why i said what i did about it applying to past and future gens.
(Just gonna point it out, easy to gloss over that part, PC parts revolutionize across every generation)
aye, agreed.
Can someone tell me if this is a good budget build?
Send link without https
Ok
like this
pcpartpicker.com/list/qvDCjp
Wym?
