#building-and-recc-chat

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little osprey
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or a 5700

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if not 5700xt

ripe quest
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you can get the nzxt h510

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which is cheaper and better

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unless u rlly want rgb

little osprey
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yea

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also aim

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for a psu in the psu list

long stag
autumn wolf
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make sure what strip you have is supported by your board, theres a difference between 5v and 12v, and if supported, make sure you have it in the correct way

long stag
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Oh that’s good to know there are different strips

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I probably bought the wrong lol I tried both ways

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Thank you

viral ore
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wait dont take it away

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i didnt get it

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nvm i switched channels and didnt realize it

compact verge
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Do you suppose my power supply could be the problem with my msi board? It's pretty weak, but someone told me it would be good enough

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I've re-seated everything

ripe quest
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well how many watts is it

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and what specs do you have inside

compact verge
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Lemme check

little osprey
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what board

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and psu

ripe quest
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yeah thats what i was asking

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also what rating if ur psu

compact verge
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Ryzen 5 3600, 16gb 3200

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MSI PRO B550M PRO-VDH WIFI

little osprey
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and ur watts

ripe quest
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and power supply wattage and rating?

tiny forge
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Rating meaning E.g (80+ Gold, bronze, etc.)

compact verge
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CORSAIR TX Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE

ripe quest
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it should work

little osprey
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ok it should be good

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its enough

ripe quest
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if you have another mobo around use that

little osprey
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what gpu

ripe quest
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does it post?

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does the pc post when turning it on?

compact verge
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Gpu is a 4gb sapphire r9 270x 4gb right now

little osprey
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it should work

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it might be with ur mobo

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try another one

compact verge
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No post. All the lights and fans turn on, but no beeps or anything

little osprey
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like gabe said

ripe quest
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its definitely a problem with your motherboard

compact verge
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The cpu and vga leds on the mobo come on. They're white

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Ez debug or whatever they're called

ripe quest
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wait

compact verge
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Like it alternates between those two

ripe quest
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it could be a problem with ur psu then. it could have fried or something

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im really not sure

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sorry

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if you have another board and another psu try troubleshooting with that

little osprey
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what gabe said

compact verge
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Yeah, I don't really

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A bunch of old stuff I guess

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Ill probably get a new psu since I planned on getting one eventually anyway

next kestrel
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it might be gpu too

ancient comet
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I think I may have gotten a defective cpu or motherboard. Could I PM someone for help?

little osprey
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from newegg

ancient comet
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Yes

little osprey
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@ancient comet

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ok

ancient comet
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Brand new from Newegg just got them delivered this weekend

little osprey
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dm newegg service

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NeweggService
#3472

ancient comet
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I’ve been trying to troubleshoot the issue as much as I can just seems to be no display.

little osprey
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@fresh garden

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dm that

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also check faqs

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for more help

ancient comet
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Ok. hopefully I can get this figured out. Not sure why pc isn’t displaying anything. Def feel like I got a defective motherboard

little osprey
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what mobo

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and cpu is it

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and what is exactly happening

little leaf
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Check cph debug liggs

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Make sure everything is plugged in

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Then reset cmos

ancient comet
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It’s an msi b450-a pro Max. And a amd 3200g. 16gb ram. Basically I installed everything outside the case and tested it to make sure it’ll turn on. And I got no display recognition from my monitor (tried 2 of em) The motherboard ez debug led has cpu light on hit I took cpu out and checked it and it looks good. I reset cmos, replugged every wire again to make sure it’s not a power issue.

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Still had no display

little leaf
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Try one stick of ram

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Then try the other stick

ancient comet
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Did that aswell

stoic island
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Do you know if the CPU could be DoA

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not just bent pins, but just straight up DoA

ancient comet
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I haven’t checked the cpu in another motherboard. I have to see if my friend would let me come over n try on his build

stoic island
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Do that, because there's a decent chance the CPU could be dead

proud fiber
ancient comet
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Yes. Everything was compatible

proud fiber
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Some mobos need a bios flash out of the box to accept some processors

stoic island
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they said b450m pro max

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max boards have pre-flashed bios

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@ancient comet can you confirm that's the EXACT board you have?

ancient comet
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I can confirm it is the exact motherboard. It says Ryzen 3000 ready on the box

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My friend is out of town dammit I can’t try his cpu. But I found someone on Facebook marketplace who builds pc’s and offered him 20 bux to let me come over and see if my cpu will work on any of his builds. Atleast then I can see where the issue is and can Atleast confirm either cpu or motherboard is doa

proud fiber
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Be careful no to bend a pin or you'll cry

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Bcus newegg is gonna ask you to bend the knee and eat 🍆

wary geode
ancient comet
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No pins were bent

wary geode
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Good question any answer?

proud fiber
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@wary geode hmm CPU or GPU? Far as I know fortnite is more dependant on GPU

wary geode
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lol some kid asked that XD

compact verge
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Hey Steve. Sounds a lot like my problem. Msi board too

ancient comet
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Oh shoot Foreal?

compact verge
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My leds say cpu and vga

ancient comet
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This issue sucks man idk why it’s happening

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Mines just says cpu led

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No display at all but everything turns on

compact verge
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Brand new 3600 and old video card that worked fine before

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Yeah same here

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Lights look beautiful though. And the fans and case are quiet. So that's nice

ancient comet
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Yea. Man I haven’t even put the graphics card in because I literally didn’t get any display with the 3200G in and I was like wtf. I should have display I think it’s a defective motherboard cuz I’ve tried a bunch of thing

compact verge
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Yeah, I don't want to send anything back. So I'm hoping it's my old psu causing it

ancient comet
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I wouldn’t wanna wait and send anything back either man but hey if they sent me a defective part I want my money back / or a replacement cuz this is just getting annoying now. I have to just check the cpu in another motherboard and see if that’s the issue. Only way to find out I guess ?

proud fiber
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@ancient comet are you using the ingrated video in the CPU? Or external GPU?

ancient comet
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The cpu has intergrated graphics. So at first I used no graphics card. And then I tried the graphics card after I got no display still

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I bought a msi 570 8gb but that’s not the issue, I don’t believe it is. Half the time it wasn’t in and I was still having the no display issue

proud fiber
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After you used external GPU still no display? Then it might not be the processor

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Sounds to me like mobo

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Have you tried to clear the CMOS?

ancient comet
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Yes

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Did cmos still had the issue

proud fiber
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Man I will say it is defective mobo

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It is very rare to get a defective processor

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I got me few weeks ago a gigabyte 450 pro wifi and I love that thing

ancient comet
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Yeah man I truly don’t know what the issue is, motherboard or cpu. What should I do guys?

proud fiber
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@ancient comet is it sending any sound like beeping?

ancient comet
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No beeps

proud fiber
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No beeps to me means no dead CPU

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I insist issue is on the mobo

stoic island
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?

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wdym

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I'm still leaning towards dead CPU

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@proud fiber what does no beeping have to do with not dead cpu

deep skiff
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i need suggestions on what to do with a rotary encoder

stoic island
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wut dat

deep skiff
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spiney boi

little leaf
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@proud fiber what?

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how does no beeps mean no dead cpu ?

stoic island
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ikr

little leaf
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I could just mean the board doesn''t have a speaker

proud fiber
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Far as I know constant beeping means dead CPU

stoic island
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??????

little leaf
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wat

stoic island
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Constant beeping is CPU overheating on msi boards

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that's the only time it beeps

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that's the only time I've ever had my board beep

proud fiber
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I never used MSI, only asus and giggabyte

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Msi should have in board speaker

little leaf
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no all boards lmao

stoic island
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Yea not all boards do anyways

little leaf
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not*

stoic island
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I'm pretty sure the board doesn't beep at you if the CPU is dead

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I'll look at manuals for gigabyte and asus boards rq

proud fiber
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Look this community is to try and help ppl, that's what I am trying to do based on my small knowledge

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But seems you are more focused on trying to prove me wrong

stoic island
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We're focused on something that we've never heard of

proud fiber
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Which I am more than happy if you do because that will add to my small experience****

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Go ahead and let me know

stoic island
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I can't find a single thing on beeping to indicate dead CPU

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Gigabyte B550m DS3H since you said you used gigabyte

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There's this if your case supports a speaker, but they also don't provide a chart for beep codes...

compact verge
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What if I powered it on without a cpu at all

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Would it beep or not beep

stoic island
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I doubt it'll beep

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at all

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There's no reason for it to beep

proud fiber
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Let's say I AM TOTALLY WRONG ON THE BEEPING SITUATION, I am still thinking CPU is not the issue. It is VERY RARE TO GET A DEAD CPU out of the box and it is more frequently to get dead MOBO.

floral flare
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hey, which power should i buy

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800w is ok now?

proud fiber
floral flare
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ok

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thanks

stoic island
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That's true, but considering the mobo is at least supplying power to fans, and debug LEDs work, I'd say both chances are similar

floral flare
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can you take a look? is this build good?

stark bramble
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That's fine

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Might want to get a cheaper case tho

floral flare
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case?

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ok

stark bramble
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I suggest a cooler master mb511 ot td500

stoic island
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@floral flare uhhhh Ventus OC is pretty bad

floral flare
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i build it here

stoic island
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The heatsink is not good

floral flare
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they will install it

stoic island
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oh boy ibp

floral flare
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is that too expeneive ?

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compare to own build

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🤦‍♂️

stoic island
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Yes

floral flare
stoic island
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I'd say you can build it with 1200$ with better parts

floral flare
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ok

stoic island
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GPU price not avaliable

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lemme make a list

floral flare
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like 400

stoic island
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also remember nvidia 30xx series is announcing tomorrow

floral flare
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tomorrow

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hmmm

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what pric

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price

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i guess i can't afford

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haha

stoic island
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Usually same as last gen lol

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it doesn't magically go from 500$ 2070 to 2000$ 3070

floral flare
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lol

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2000

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??

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i want that 3070

stoic island
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ya

floral flare
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ok

stoic island
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that's just leaks tho

floral flare
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yes

stoic island
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gotta wait for tomorrow ;D

floral flare
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i should just build by my own

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ibuypower is expensive

fast dust
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100% yes

floral flare
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ok

stoic island
floral flare
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yes, i plan to change to 32gb

ripe quest
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dont

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ur rarely gonna use all 16 gigs

stoic island
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Upgrading down the line is fine

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just no need right now

floral flare
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ok

stoic island
floral flare
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i also edit video

stoic island
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placeholder 3070

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also

floral flare
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i think 16gb is ok

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then

stoic island
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Do you mainly do premiere?

ripe quest
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if anything get more storage

floral flare
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yes, premiere and gaming

ripe quest
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like a hard drive and a 1tb ssd

stoic island
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ya, was just example that looked like IBP PC

floral flare
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1tb ssd, es

stoic island
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Is premiere your job, or do you spend a ton of time in premiere?

floral flare
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i will go 16gb

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just my hobby

stoic island
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Just so you know, Adobe products are really Intel optimised

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so it might be worth going like a 10700k

ripe quest
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yeah and just pure gaming wise, intel wins by like 5-10 frames

floral flare
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i will go amd 3700x

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yeah, that's good enough

stoic island
proud fiber
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But there is no MOBO ready for those 3000 GPU series or I'm wrong?

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I mean not just yet

floral flare
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$289: $409

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the price is only $100 higher

stoic island
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Yea, just saying tho

ripe quest
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130 dollars

floral flare
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yes

ripe quest
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which is a lot

stoic island
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Adobe do like them Intel chips

floral flare
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130 for 100 point

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worth?

stoic island
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

ripe quest
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i think ryzen is ok. Intel would be a lot better though

stoic island
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Ryzen is fine

floral flare
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ok

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yes

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thanks

proud fiber
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For me ryzzen is better and cheaper

stoic island
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@proud fiber Unless Nvidia pulls another proprietary connector out of their rear, next gen GPUs should be compatible with any boards with PCIe x16 slots

floral flare
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what is the coller master again?

stoic island
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Coolermaster TD 500 mesh

floral flare
proud fiber
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@stoic island which we won't know until the release

floral flare
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ok

stoic island
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It would be an extremely dumb move from Nvidia

floral flare
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not in there

stoic island
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So I consider it extremely unlikely

floral flare
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so that is in the case

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ok

stoic island
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Mesh is important

floral flare
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which wifi mother board

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you suggest

ripe quest
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most mobos with wifi are good

floral flare
stoic island
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lemme take a quick look

floral flare
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ok

ripe quest
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just check the heatsink

floral flare
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i need it wifi

stoic island
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MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI will work decently

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and you also have the option of going non-wifi board and slapping like a T6E on it

floral flare
stoic island
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I doubt you have any use for x570

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and the B550 board is like 80$ cheaper

floral flare
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ok

proud fiber
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I don't love MSI

stoic island
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I do

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:P

proud fiber
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Asus and gigabyte my sweet spot

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Prefer asus

stoic island
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I'm impartial towards all the other motherboard companies

proud fiber
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Had an asus rocking for 10 years. Died like 2 months ago

stoic island
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I just own a MSI board

floral flare
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i will go this build

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and wait for nvidai 3000

stoic island
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wait

floral flare
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others, good to buy

stoic island
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don't buy yet

floral flare
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yes

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just a build,

stoic island
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wait before everything is ready to buy

floral flare
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video card is pending

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what do you mean? cheaper?

stoic island
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You don't want DoA parts that you can't check after they're out of the return window

proud fiber
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That card is found cheaper on newegg

floral flare
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i think i will buy from anywhere, and build it at home

stoic island
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Yes

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Don't do the buy from Amazon thing

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amazon usually is not the cheapest marketplace

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Just buy separately

proud fiber
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Even BH is cheaper

stoic island
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B&H and Newegg are my fav retailers :P

floral flare
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ok

stoic island
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Send that list real quick

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I'll make you some adjustments @floral flare

floral flare
stoic island
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also can ya give me an upper limit on budget? might improve some things

floral flare
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yeah

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you can upper

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i have 2000 budget, but less is better

stoic island
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Gotcha

proud fiber
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With 2k you can build 2 rocking gaming PC

stoic island
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for now

floral flare
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you add a hard drive?

stoic island
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Yes

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extra storage is good

floral flare
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yeah

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2t

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that's nice

stoic island
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Who knows when you'll want extra space for projects you completed that you're not working on

floral flare
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2+1

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thank you

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i save it

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looks great

next kestrel
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i'd prob get the 32gb but yea that looks about textbook as it gets lol

stoic island
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Come back in like 2 days after we know specs and AIB pricing, and the 30xx series start poping up on retailers so we can tell you what to change depending on the situation

floral flare
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yes

stoic island
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honestly, premier seems to eat ram, 32gb ram isn't that much more money

floral flare
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i save it now

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will buy after that

stoic island
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We can slap in 2x16gb ram next time we work on the list

floral flare
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my laptop has 16gb

next kestrel
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yeah honestly having music, discord and a AAA game eats around 12GB for me

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so i prob would go for a 2x16 kit

stoic island
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try rammap

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:D

next kestrel
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especially at 2k budget lol

floral flare
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now is good

stoic island
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I have 2x16 kit and I never used up more than 16gb unintentionally
(It'll likely be a good idea to grab 32gb in their case, but it's not for everyone)

floral flare
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after tax

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1700

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thank you guys

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🤟

next kestrel
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nice nice

stoic island
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But seriously try rammap if you find yourself short on ram

next kestrel
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enjoy ur build once the 3070 comes out :DD

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ok fs

floral flare
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yes

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waiting

stoic island
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I think it's pinned in the memory channel

next kestrel
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im using 7gb listening to youtube and on discord?

stoic island
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nope it isn't

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but lemme just

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Using 9gb rn with random stuff

floral flare
next kestrel
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2133mhz?

floral flare
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my current desktop

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hhahah

stoic island
floral flare
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i can't even play league of legend

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fps 70

next kestrel
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wait mr1111 didnt u say u had 32gb?

stoic island
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School laptop

next kestrel
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o nice

stoic island
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this is running like LPDDR3 too

floral flare
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yes

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nice

next kestrel
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school laptop with 2133mhz DDR3?

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u must be going to a nice school lol

stoic island
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Kinda

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it's still igpu and stuff

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they just upgraded laptops last year

next kestrel
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my school chromebook has 4gb of ram lol

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oh nice

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i have a 60GB ssd on my school chromebook

stoic island
next kestrel
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so I literally can't install zoom

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which is what they told us to do lol

stoic island
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this has a 256gb ssd with 236gb usable

floral flare
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my school laptop is XPS something

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cast me $1600

stoic island
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It's a Micron 1100 SATA 256gb

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damn

floral flare
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xps 15

stoic island
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XPS 15 is pretty nice iirc?

floral flare
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yes

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but now i am gradute

next kestrel
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can you oc your laptop ram :DD

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lmao

floral flare
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and i dont use that much now

stoic island
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this is a latitude 3 in 1 or something

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ofc not

floral flare
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lol

stoic island
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bios is all locked down

next kestrel
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lmao unlucky

stoic island
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prob can't anyways

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the CPU only supports up to 2133mhz lpddr3 ram

next kestrel
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oh unlucky

stoic island
floral flare
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🤟

plush wigeon
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@little osprey @ripe quest currently the 3600x is only $10 more than the regular 3600 so that's why I went with 3600x

stoic island
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Ya

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that's fine

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Usually 3600 is like 160$, so people could slap those in and forget about it

ripe quest
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hm ok

floral flare
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3700x and 3800 also $100 different

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2% performance

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not worth it

stoic island
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I'm a 3800x owner, I would know, never buy 3800x.

plush wigeon
stoic island
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I bought it for 330$ like 2 months after launch when it was just a bit more than the 3700x

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not impressed

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That fan irks me the wrong way for some reason

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I just don't like it :P

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get a Arctic p12 maybe

little leaf
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Wait @plush wigeon what happeend to my 5700xt build lmao

plush wigeon
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oh something increased in price so I have to adjust to go back under $1000

ripe quest
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unless u really want rgb there is a kit of 3600 cl16 2x8 corsair non rgb momory for 62 dollars and the u can get a phanteks p300a for 60 dollars

plush wigeon
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I told you I didn't like the case.

little leaf
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Then change the case lmao

plush wigeon
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I chose this case because I liked it best

stoic island
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@ripe quest where

little leaf
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Change the case

stoic island
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I have not seen any 3600c16 kits at 62$

little leaf
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Wtf

stoic island
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3200c16 at 62$ yea, quite frequently

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but 3600c16

vital warren
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cheapest 3600cl16 kit ive seen is like 70 rn

stoic island
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Never seen that before lol

desert gulch
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Yeah usually like 70-75

stoic island
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yea they usually hover around the 70s

ripe quest
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@stoic island i saw it yesterday the prices might have went back up

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lemme check real quick

stoic island
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I doubt it ever was

desert gulch
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Was it a deal?

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Maybe it was a smoking deal on wegg

stoic island
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There was a kit that showed 62$ on pcpp but showed like 80$ on amazon

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PCPP was just drunk

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maybe you remembered that?

ripe quest
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yeah maybe its still there

stoic island
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c18

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that's why

ripe quest
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crap my bad

stoic island
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lol

plush wigeon
ripe quest
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thats the same but a cheaper case @plush wigeon

stoic island
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they used to be 8$ a piece

desert gulch
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Sn750 is overpriced rn

vital warren
desert gulch
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Can find it at $62 sometimes

vital warren
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decent list but a lot less storage, can always throw a 2tb hdd in down the line

stoic island
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anyways

ripe quest
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i think ember is the person we ahve helped the most with a build, ever

stoic island
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def not for me

ripe quest
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most people come to this channel and get 1 person helping them with a build

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still its a lot of people

stoic island
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I've seen like 5 people working on lists for one guy

floral flare
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🤣

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that's why i am here

stoic island
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I think I also have like a 400 message long dm with a guy that wanted help

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lemme check

ripe quest
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rlly

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hot darn

plush wigeon
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Tbh the price of the ssd rn doesn't really matter, not planning to make the buy for a couple more months

little leaf
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@stoic island why not a 5700xt

stoic island
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I kinda do want to know how many messages were sent but it looks like discord is too tired

little leaf
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Or 2060\

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S

stoic island
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I dunno

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I was just making small changes on their list

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main parts yall can do

little leaf
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Cant molbile

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Made them a list yesterday

plush wigeon
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Also, I am relatively new to this, and a first time builder.

little leaf
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And the. Said no to it because they didnt like the case I chose so they said no it

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So I said just change the case

stoic island
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I really gotta start doing my apush hw now

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I'll see yall around

ashen cove
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Anyone have a nzxt h510 case?

stoic island
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dat case not so good airflow tho

next kestrel
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its a good looking, good priced case

stoic island
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All that matters to me is Price and Performance

little leaf
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Bad airflow

ashen cove
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Yeah, I just have a question about it

stoic island
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What's the question

ashen cove
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Sent a video

stoic island
next kestrel
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unscrew those

stoic island
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Yes, unscrew those

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and then like slide the other end in

next kestrel
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and then push towards the back of the case

fast dust
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Do you guys think it would be okay to put a very slight overclock on a GPU for a PC flip or nah

lyric thistle
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I don't really see why

fast dust
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i mean ive heard people that are like "let the buyer do that on their own if they want overclocks arent super safe" etc

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i mean, they can be safe, but, you know what i mean

lyric thistle
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yeah I get what you mean ;p

compact verge
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Is pc flipping a thing

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Wow am I out of the loop

hoary flower
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Okay here’s my build and I need a suggestion for power supply and case.

CPU
Ryzen 5 3600
CPU Cooler
Cooler master 212 evo
MB
X570 tuf
Memory
Corsair vengeance 2x8
Storage
WD 500 gb

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Anything I should change?

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Or any suggestion

lyric thistle
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toaster flipping is my gig 😎

compact verge
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What you got in stock

little osprey
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No graphics card?

compact verge
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I am down to a cheap toaster oven and a Hello Kitty toaster

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They both are awful for toast

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Although the latter does toast Hello Kitty on your bread

hoary flower
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Gtx 1660 super

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My bad

errant berry
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gotcha

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you need the wifi?

hoary flower
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Yeah🥴 I won’t be able to plug Ethernet cord to pc so

errant berry
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lol gotcha

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i was gonna say if you planned to use ethernet it wouldve been cheaper

hoary flower
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Yeah cause I would change the mb

errant berry
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mhm

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i dont see an issue

fast dust
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Okay here’s my build and I need a suggestion for power supply and case.

CPU
Ryzen 5 3600
CPU Cooler
Cooler master 212 evo
MB
X570 tuf
Memory
Corsair vengeance 2x8
Storage
WD 500 gb
@hoary flower id actually change a few things first
Don't get a hyper 212 evo. The ryzen 3600 comes with a cooler
Why such an expensive motherboard? Just get a cheap B550 like the DS3H.
Is that storage an SSD or an HDD? WD blue or WD green or WD red or what?
What speed ram and what Cas Latency?

Power supply can be a good 450w, like the Corsair CX450. If you want more wattage for future upgrades, CX550 is a good option too.
For case, whatever you like is fine. Fractal Design Focus G is a good option. Cougar MX-330G is good too. Phanteks eclips P300A mesh good too, etc.

errant berry
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maybe go to the r5 2600 and get a 1660 ti

fast dust
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no dont do that ^

errant berry
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oh lol

fast dust
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1660 super performs almost identical to 1660 TI

errant berry
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dang i didnt know that

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thanks for correcting me

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i dont see an issue with it then

fast dust
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and the 1600 AF/2600s are stupid overpriced rn
But i guess the 3600 is too.
If the 3600 is $200 where you are, just jump to 3600X. It's only like $10 more

little osprey
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Hi guys, hope things are going well. I am about to post my first list....

errant berry
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i got mine for 140

ripe quest
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that mobo is way overpriced

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and dont get a 212 evo cause the r5 3600 has a stock cooler already

errant berry
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ye

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i couldn't find any other wifi boards

hoary flower
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@fast dust I chose that motherboard based on the WiFi and such. But I opted the cooler because I didn’t know if it would perform well with the in box one. Storage is SSD blue. I’ll probably get a higher wattage power supply so I won’t have to upgrade that too if I upgrade other

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In my area the prices are only going up

errant berry
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the stock is good

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so i wouldnt get it

fast dust
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Get a B550 with wifi, or cheap B550 + PCIe WiFi adapter

ripe quest
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@hoary flower

errant berry
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and i think there is a $100 1tb m.2

ripe quest
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wait crap u want wifi

errant berry
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ya

ripe quest
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the stock cpu cooler is good on the r5 3600

errant berry
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i didnt know b550 had wifi

ripe quest
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no way youll need a hyper 212 evo

errant berry
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mhm

hoary flower
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Okay well that will save me $30!

errant berry
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lol

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was your budget 1000?

hoary flower
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But yeah it’s mainly the WiFi part of not I would opt for a cheaper mb

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If*

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Yes first build so not going crazy

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With $$$

errant berry
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mhm

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1000 is good

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no need to go crazy anyways lol

stoic island
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hey

errant berry
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hi

stoic island
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MSI B550m pro vdh

errant berry
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does that have wifi

little osprey
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AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor

Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard

G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

Primary HDD - Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

Secondary HDD - Seagate BarraCuda 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive

Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card

Deepcool MATREXX 55 V3 ADD-RGB WH ATX Mid Tower Case

Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

stoic island
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Yes

errant berry
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uh

stoic island
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for 110$

errant berry
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is that for a workstation?

stoic island
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@little osprey what about it

errant berry
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bc that processor seems like extra for the gpu

stoic island
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Next, WD blue isn't a great M.2 ssd

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it do be SATA

vital warren
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i tried @hoary flower

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its a little over a thousand

errant berry
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thats good tho

stoic island
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2060 super for a bit over 1000 is good

errant berry
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worth the little extra

stoic island
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I like it

errant berry
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mhm

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same

still roostBOT
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GITSTP#4508 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

vital warren
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it'll be under a thousand whenever the 3600 goes back to normal price

errant berry
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is it higher

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bc i thought the normal was 200

vital warren
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its usually like 170-180 ish

errant berry
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and it was a sale for 150

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oh

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ok

vital warren
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from what i've seen it's always hovered around 170

still roostBOT
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GITSTP#4508 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

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GITSTP#4508 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

errant berry
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wow really

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i just saw 150 once then 200

ripe quest
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lol

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imagine getting kicked for spam

little osprey
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3D artist, attempting to get back into the game industry as a dev, sorry i accidently pasted the list without explanation first.
So basically, I need a workstation for creating and quick rendering 3D props, and working with game engines such as Unreal, Unity,
and other ones, I work with 3D packages such as 3DS Max, Maya, will learn zBrush, also use substance painter and photoshop....

When it comes to CPU power and GPU power for rendering, I have not made up my mind, so I kind of am concentrated on having both CPU and GPU to be good.

With this list, I am looking at a little over $1340.00 more or less. A slight inconvenience for the my overall $1200 budget. But not too bad.

So this is my first attempt at making a list. I am learning, I want to build it so I know what I am putting into it,
and also learn the knowledge, experience, and pass it on.

AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor

Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard

G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

Primary HDD - Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

Secondary HDD - Seagate BarraCuda 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive

Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card

Deepcool MATREXX 55 V3 ADD-RGB WH ATX Mid Tower Case

Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

What do you guys think?
Any advice helps, I appreciate peeps!

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whoa, sorry for the long post folks... I can take this in another chat if needed.

stoic island
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First, wait for tomorrow's Nvidia announcement

little osprey
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I tried posting the link@stoic island

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but it didn't follow thru once I hit the ENTER

stoic island
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Try posting it without https

little osprey
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aahh ok lol

stoic island
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like this

errant berry
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oh you have to be a high enough level

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idk why its like that its hella stupid

little osprey
stoic island
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Stop spam

errant berry
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who?

stoic island
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holy jesus that PSU is overpriced atm

little osprey
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Thanks @stoic island

stoic island
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Do you need wifi?

errant berry
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even if he does, switch to that b550 with wifi from before

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idk if thatll work well with the 3800x

little osprey
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It is huh, I can wait for that part to come down, or just choose a different one, I am still learning here, never built a machine before. and kind of nervous, but having fun learning about the different components.

errant berry
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but it is cheaper

little osprey
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I could go with a ethernet connection, and buy a wifi router later

errant berry
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do you have a ethernet plugin for the wall

little osprey
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where i currently live, no @errant berry

errant berry
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or would you need to buy something to make an ethernet connection

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ok

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imo id stick with wifi then

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@stoic island would the b550 with wifi be ok with the 3800x?

little osprey
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I will be moving out though within a year, and maybe area where I move to may, I should just set up to to keep ethernet connection huh, from there I can also do wifi easily after, outer hardware stuff

errant berry
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ya

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i just dont know if the 3800x needs a good board

little osprey
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ohh ok

errant berry
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especially if you plan to use wifi too bc it can get expensive

stoic island
rain bone
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A b550 would be okay if you dont plan on overlooking a lot

little osprey
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I see

errant berry
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ok

stoic island
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Better ram, cheaper SSD but still good, went b550 board, nicer case because why not, less overkill PSU

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and better GPU

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placeholder for now, let's wait for tomorrow's announcements

errant berry
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thats a great build

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for his needs

calm crypt
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Hey y’all so I got an optiolex build with like 4 gn ram and a 5200 rpm hdd lol I’m gonna replace it and upgrade the ram they’re just temp with the i5 3300. But windows keeps crashing is that the hdd fault? I’m using the same install I use on my main

little osprey
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Better ram, cheaper SSD but still good, went b550 board, nicer case because why not, less overkill PSU
@stoic island thanks man!

stoic island
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You're welcome, that list will likely change once Nvidia announce all the good stuff about the 30xx series of GPUs

little osprey
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You're welcome, that list will likely change once Nvidia announce all the good stuff about the 30xx series of GPUs
@stoic island oh yeah? When will they announce?

stoic island
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Tomorrow

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Sept 1

little osprey
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Oh! ok cool! I will look it up for sure.

stoic island
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Unless I'm imagining things again tomorrow is sept 1

little osprey
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How was my build overall though, the PSU was overkill huh, I wasn't sure what to look for there.

calm crypt
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Lol tmrw the 31st

stoic island
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Well, it was 250$ for a start xD

little osprey
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I think Tuesday is Sept 1

stoic island
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oh you're screwing with me

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ehm

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okay then

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ignore whenever I said "tomorrow"

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and put "tuesday" in there

calm crypt
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xD

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Hey y’all so I got an optiolex build with like 4 gn ram and a 5200 rpm hdd lol I’m gonna replace it and upgrade the ram they’re just temp with the i5 3300. But windows keeps crashing is that the hdd fault? I’m using the same install I use on my main

little osprey
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Jajaja

stoic island
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What BSOD code

calm crypt
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It said like ahax failed or something lemme see I just rebooted it should happen any second now

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Nvm now it’s deciding to work lmao

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I’ll let you know if it happens again but imma eat dinner thanks man

stoic island
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lol

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windows is screwy

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I'm guessing it might be just windows software issues

calm crypt
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Fr doe it’s been happening fr months tho

stoic island
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it's useful for un-bsoding software issues

calm crypt
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Ight bet

hoary flower
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Of what I just sent

vital warren
little osprey
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A b550 would be okay if you dont plan on overlooking a lot
@rain bone what do you mean by overlooking a lot? Did you mean overclocking? I don't intend to, if it ever gets to the point where I am pushing the machine constantly, hopefully, I will be in a place where I can upgrade.

hoary flower
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That’s not bad! I meant to comment on that and budget wasn’t crazily passed plus. But what do you think of the one I just sent because it is beating my budget lol and it’ll give me more room to expand my setup

calm crypt
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@stoic island so like now it’s just going black and restarting.....

vital warren
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the list you have isn't that bad, i would change the ssd as you can get a faster one for only a few more dollars, case seems fine, but what's the total overall budget you have @hoary flower?

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do you already have peripherals like a monitor mouse keyboard etc?

errant berry
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ya its a little more for a m.2

hoary flower
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To which ssd? I have keyboard mouse just not monitor

errant berry
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m.2

vital warren
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maybe something like a cruial p1 500gb ssd

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its $60

errant berry
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mhm

vital warren
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decent speeds

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or an mp34 512gb

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both are around $60-66

errant berry
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a good monitor too for cheap is the spectre 144hz on amazon

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its like 150

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27" curved

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idk the response time

vital warren
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yeah i was going to say like a sceptre 165hz ips for like $180 i think it was or an msi optix g241 for 190

errant berry
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ya

hoary flower
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Now in the future what are some upgradable options I can do? I’m completely new to the pc build world. I want to be easily able to upgrade without breaking the bank too

errant berry
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the processor is good

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do the storage or gpu first

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thats what id do

fast dust
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3600 can go up to a 2080 super without too much bottleneck

errant berry
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mhm

vital warren
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having 2.5tb of storage is great to have

errant berry
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facts

vital warren
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a good sized case with enough clearance for all the parts you have and extra room for future improvement

errant berry
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imma get the 3060s when it comes out

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that would also be good

hoary flower
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Like basically if I upgrade I won’t have to change the whole entire build just to be compatible or so. I probably won’t need that much storage unless I become much more serious with pc gaming for now I’ll stick with that amount of storage.

vital warren
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500gb does go very quick

hoary flower
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🥴

vital warren
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but you could always throw a 2tb hdd in whenever so yeah it's fine to cut it out for now

errant berry
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ya

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true

vital warren
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only another $50 expense down the line

hoary flower
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Not bad

errant berry
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id do the gpu tho

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especially with the new cards coming out soon

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and supposedly its cheaper than before bc they used a different supplier

hoary flower
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Yeah but thanks so much! Y’all all big help

vital warren
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i would wait a little while until the new gpus come out just to see your options at that time again

little osprey
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@little osprey @ripe quest currently the 3600x is only $10 more than the regular 3600 so that's why I went with 3600x
@plush wigeon ok

thorny bronze
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Can anyone help me put together a gaming pc for $700 without a psu

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I am not very good at picking out lower end builds

little leaf
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Without a psu?

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What psu do u have currently

thorny bronze
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yes. My friend is going to use his he already has

little leaf
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Which psu?

thorny bronze
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he says its a 550w

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didnt say brand

little leaf
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I want to make sure its good enough

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Wattage isnt what im looking for

thorny bronze
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let me ask him

desert gulch
#

Yeah we want to know tier

errant berry
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mhm

thorny bronze
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he just asked me to help and didnt say much else besides he prefers intel and wants 16gb of ram at at least 2666MHZ

stoic island
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...

errant berry
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intel for a budget build?

stoic island
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Well, at that budget, if you want a decent PC, you're not gonna get 2666mhz+ xD

errant berry
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mhm

stoic island
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Because dem z490 boards are expensive

thorny bronze
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Yes, its for his flight sim

stoic island
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Can he tolerate AMD

errant berry
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ohhh a 700 will be interesting with flight sim

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idk the requirements for it

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but im sure its steep

thorny bronze
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tell me about it. He is one of those people as soon as he gets money he wants to spent it on a pc haha. doesnt wanna save more

stoic island
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But can he tolerate AMD

errant berry
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he should save if he wants to run flight sim

thorny bronze
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I asked

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I told him that but idk

errant berry
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at least at a decent fps

desert gulch
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Yeah

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Around 1k would be decent for flight sim

errant berry
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agreed

stoic island
thorny bronze
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He can stand it

errant berry
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from the clips ive seen, it looks demanding

stoic island
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Min spec is fine

thorny bronze
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I meant he wants to play x plane and P3D

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not mfs2020

errant berry
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wow i actually got the recommended card

stoic island
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oh

errant berry
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kinda wild

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oh x plane is different

stoic island
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then that's easier

errant berry
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a lot different

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ya

thorny bronze
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sorry about that. haha

desert gulch
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Yeah

errant berry
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lol

stoic island
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Anyone that comes around here nowadays and says "flight sim" we're gonna assume fs2020 xD

errant berry
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agreed

stoic island
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yea x plane and such is simpler

thorny bronze
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he doesnt like fs2020

desert gulch
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Why?

errant berry
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how

stoic island
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I'm making an AMD list

errant berry
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its so pretty

thorny bronze
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I have no clue

stoic island
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It's expensive

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60$

desert gulch
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Yeah

errant berry
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game pass and its free

thorny bronze
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60?????? why so cheap haha

desert gulch
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That's for standard

stoic island
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I never buy any games over 25$ hehe

thorny bronze
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I bought the premium deluxe

desert gulch
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Oof

stoic island
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I'm like one of those pcmasterrace guys

errant berry
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lol

desert gulch
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Enjoy your handcrafted airports lol

stoic island
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that only gets cheaper games on sale

thorny bronze
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lol

errant berry
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idc how much i spend on a game

stoic island
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But I still have a great libary never paying for any triple a games

errant berry
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ill normally buy the base game tho

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im just waiting for sao alicization lycorsis to become optimized

stoic island
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is it good?

errant berry
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it is

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just the anti cheat messes it up

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bc its horribly optimized

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i should be getting 100+ fps

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i get like 40

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but there is a workaround to disable it and play the game

stoic island
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example list

errant berry
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thats good

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itll run x plane

stoic island
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oh mmo game eh

errant berry
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its based off an anime i enjoy

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the story is good

stoic island
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BDO is enough MMO for me lmao

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ye I watch sao

errant berry
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bdo?

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oh good lol

stoic island
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Black Desert Online

errant berry
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oh

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ive heard of that

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never played it

stoic island
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Sassy plays it too

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it's quite fun

errant berry
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cool

stoic island
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You seen new ep of sao?

errant berry
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i might pick it up and try it

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of course

stoic island
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his legs tho

errant berry
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yea lol

stoic island
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spoilers lol

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but seriously

thorny bronze
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@stoic island Thank you

stoic island
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I was really confused when his legs were just gone

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no blood or anything

errant berry
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same

stoic island
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just

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gone

errant berry
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lmaoo

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how did he lose them tho

stoic island
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black magic

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literally

errant berry
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gabriel didnt cut horizontally

thorny bronze
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@stoic island I dont need a psu he said he wants to use his old one. Anything I can take that 74 and add to

stoic island
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2 options

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upgrad CPU to a 3600

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or do other adjustments such as getting a 2tb hdd for extra storage and getting a nicer case

thorny bronze
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Case is fine

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Should I get another ssd?

stoic island
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@errant berry maybe the nullification magic thingy (tbh that looked nice visually but no idea how to explain it) only protected his upper body

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You can get a 1tb MP34 instead of 512gb

thorny bronze
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ok

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that actually lowers price haha

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Can you make a intel one. Or just change mobo and cpu

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after I sent him that amd build

stoic island
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First, he's 50$ over budget, second, b365 board is going to hard cap his ram to 2666mhz @thorny bronze

thorny bronze
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Ok

stoic island
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:p

thorny bronze
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he said $50 over is ok

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Whats a better board to get then

little leaf
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Why intel lmao

thorny bronze
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I dont know.

little leaf
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Intel bad gor budget systems

thorny bronze
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I know haha but its what he wants

stoic island
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Z390 board

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If he's going down the wrong path, you can roast him later about it, that's one way to teach him xD

thorny bronze
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Ok, I was gonna choose that just wanted to stay lower price

stoic island
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Only z-motherboards for Intel don't limit ram to 2666mhz

thorny bronze
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Ok thats what I thought just wasnt sure fully

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Whats a good cheap intel cpu that has 3.7 or more GHz

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I am not very good on intel lower end side haha

stoic island
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Idek tbh

thorny bronze
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Im stuck haha

stoic island
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I wouldn't go below a 10600k for an Intel build because below that is stupid so....

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Don't really know that territory

little osprey
#

how do you guys figure out what kind of cooling fans are needed? Is that something I have to look at when getting the PC Case first?

stoic island
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Uh not really

little osprey
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And after getting all the parts, and assembling then into the case alreadY?

stoic island
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Airflow is just once it's good enough, it's good enough. And in an ordinary case with decent airflow, 2 fans in the front 1 fan in the back is the usual setup

little osprey
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oh ok, I know the AMD chip im getting already comes with a cooling fan,

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oh ok

Airflow is just once it's good enough, it's good enough. And in an ordinary case with decent airflow, 2 fans in the front 1 fan in the back is the usual setup
@stoic island

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so in this case for my PC list, I will need two to three more fans, I just go off the specs in the case I so choose

stoic island
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Uhh cases usually come with fans installed

desert gulch
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Lol Mr1 I have 3 intakes one exaust

stoic island
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Yea

little osprey
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oh ok

desert gulch
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I mean two exausts

thorny bronze
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Haha I think I have 6 intakes and one exhaust

stoic island
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Hey, I have 3 intake 3 exhaust lol

desert gulch
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But my GPU makes alotta heat too tbh

little osprey
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oh wow

stoic island
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Mine is overkill

thorny bronze
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What kinda pc do you have\

desert gulch
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Me?

thorny bronze
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no @stoic island

little leaf
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3800x and 2070 for mr111

stoic island
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Ya

desert gulch
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Is it possible to oc an Android phone?

desert gulch
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That's what I'm going for

thorny bronze
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@stoic island Thanks for the help. I suck at lower end builds

stoic island
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You're welcome, but I kinda suck too xD

analog pulsar
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@odd crypt stop chatting in build pics

odd crypt
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Wth

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Kenzie

analog pulsar
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You gunna get in trouble

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I’m trying to help you

lyric thistle
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is it possible to mount a 92mm fan diagonally on a 70mm fan mount Pizza

warped prism
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You all could think outside the box and offer suggestions to people that are based on your knowledge rather than give hardline answers. A computer build has the ability to be exactly what a member wants without having the absolute best in every category... I’ve seen some terrible comments here that are less than helpful. If someone in any line of commerce asks for something, you may suggest a solid “using this is better” item, but ultimately the customer is right. It’s no one’s fault but theirs later if they are suck at a certain MHz ram or have a bottlenecked CPU.

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Not without customization @lyric thistle You would need to pre drill a small hole, and then use a small shank self tapping screw. Ensure you don’t go into the fan housing, or damage any mobo components. Why do you need a diagonal mount?

foggy hazel
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Now, here is a fun detail for you, nothing prevents you from weighing in

warped prism
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Since I just joined @foggy hazel I thoroughly plan to. Thanks 😉

foggy hazel
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as for "hardline" answers: Its a mixed bag

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it really depends on the interaction/response you get from the person asking for help

warped prism
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The best now is not the best forever, but with the pandemic many people are looking for a “value” build to meet their needs

foggy hazel
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some will ask something that "looks" like a open talk for debate

warped prism
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True

foggy hazel
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but what they are actually asking for is someone else to make the decision for them

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which i personally dont do

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i will happily inform them about the upsides and the downsides

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but the choice is theirs

warped prism
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True... I am looking to gradually build a $4k+ system, and I’ve been on the roller coaster as to AMD or Intel for weeks now. It’s been one hell of a ride

foggy hazel
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the regular/standard question for that would be: what do you plan to actually use the machine for?

warped prism
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High end gaming/streaming. I’ve been over 4,200 almost every time. Dual GPU’s in SLI is one of the biggest cost inflators

foggy hazel
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you are hopefully aware that SLI/xfire is just about useless right?

warped prism
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I have a single monitor, I have also been looking at 2 split cards for dual monitors as a second build option

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That is another $350+ for my second monitor

little leaf
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You dont need 2 cards for 2 monitors

foggy hazel
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you are aware that you dont need a card per monitor right?

little leaf
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You can have 4 monitors per card or more

warped prism
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What is the load on the card with 4 monitors?

foggy hazel
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in desktop mode? nothing you will notice

little leaf
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Nothing at all

foggy hazel
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it does quite literally not care

warped prism
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Will there be a noticeable difference between a 2080 super 8gb and 2080 Ti 11gb? I’ve seen some benchmark tests that show a 15-30 FPS difference between 1080p and 4k

little leaf
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Decent

foggy hazel
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there are a couple of things that seem to signal that you are not quite aware of what exactly it is you are asking there @warped prism

little leaf
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Witb a 4k budget you can easily get a 2080 though

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Ti

warped prism
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The benchmark tests were among a series of about 20 current top games, the 15-30fps difference was average among all games. This was in conjunction with a 10,900k intel cpu. I believe it was 32gb ram, not sure of the mobo as I don’t believe that was mentioned.

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The difference was between each card running at high settings

stoic island
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Next gen GPUs :D

foggy hazel
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unless you are going to be playing those exact 20 games, then that benchmark does not really tell you much

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and even IF you are going to playing those 20 exact games, it still doesnt tell you much.

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one of the games could easily be having horrendous performance.

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what i am getting at here is this: Details matter.

stoic island
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Just keep in mind everything varies depending on the exact situation.

warped prism
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I understand, I want the ability to play whatever I want without constraints. The questions is what is the primary difference between the 2080 super 8gb and 2080 Ti 11gb and would I notice a difference. I understand there are other variables and am trying to make an educated decision. Variable aside, how do the cards compare? That is the primary goal in the asking of my question

foggy hazel
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IF you go beyond 1080p, you should fairly easily "see" a difference between the two. It is completely different IF that difference is worth the current price of the 2080TI thou.

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and what i said above, also applies to past generations of cards, and future generations of card

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there is always "some" cards in a given generation that are simply bad value.

stoic island
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Next generation cards will likely make 2080 super and 2080ti bad buys at their current price.

foggy hazel
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they perform lovely, but you get to pay a LOT for a small % increase

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@stoic island which is why i said what i did about it applying to past and future gens.

stoic island
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(Just gonna point it out, easy to gloss over that part, PC parts revolutionize across every generation)

foggy hazel
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aye, agreed.

finite cobalt
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Can someone tell me if this is a good budget build?

stoic island
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Send link without https

finite cobalt
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Ok

stoic island
finite cobalt
stoic island
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lmao

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I'd edit off the list I just sent there xD

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similar budgets

finite cobalt
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Wym?