building-and-recc-chat

[errant berry]

i just made the mistake of getting the xfx rx 590

i hit 80 c in any game

[ripe quest]

so it cant run crysis

rip

[errant berry]

lol

i was gonna get the 2060 s

but i thought i might as well wait and get the 3000 series

[desert gulch]

Good idea

[errant berry]

ye

its that or im gonna save it for a down payment on a car

[desert gulch]

I still need a buy a car lol

[errant berry]

same

[desert gulch]

In high school

[errant berry]

same

[desert gulch]

And 16 pretty soon

[errant berry]

nice

i havent even gotten my permit yet and im 16

lol

[desert gulch]

Oof

[errant berry]

havent really gotten the opportunity for it tho

[desert gulch]

Yeah

Is it drivers Ed there or just the test?

[errant berry]

drivers ed too

texas has stupid laws for that

[small heron]

All i had to do was take a test for my permit

[errant berry]

im jealous

[small heron]

Lel

[errant berry]

i got to take 34 hours of drivers ed

then a test

[small heron]

I have to have 40 and driving test for my license

[errant berry]

ohhh you said permit

not license

[small heron]

Ik

[errant berry]

ya its just a test for my permit

[small heron]

Just yest for my permit

I see

[errant berry]

but the drivers ed for my license

[small heron]

Thats not bad

[errant berry]

nah

[small heron]

Ur jus lazy

[errant berry]

big facts

how did you know tho

[knotty flax]

hey I was curious which company is better for doing stuff like YouTube live streaming and gaming AMD or Intel

[errant berry]

how much you gonna spend on your build

ive been told builds that are high end are better with intel

[knotty flax]

I'm just trying to get an idea for now

[errant berry]

gotcha

i know a guy who can help

wrong one

@foggy hazel

he a smarty pants

[knotty flax]

thank you for the help

[errant berry]

i didnt do much😂

[little leaf]

Dont tag naed

What u need

[desert gulch]

Dragon Lord what budget?

[errant berry]

oh

[little leaf]

Use case

[errant berry]

he a smarty

[little leaf]

And budget

[desert gulch]

Budget

@knotty flax

^

[knotty flax]

I'm just trying to get ideas for now

[desert gulch]

Budget

^

[little leaf]

Well what dk u want to do

Like gaming streaming

[errant berry]

ya we cant give an idea without those lol

[little leaf]

Video editing

[errant berry]

hey I was curious which company is better for doing stuff like YouTube live streaming and gaming AMD or Intel
@knotty flax

[little leaf]

Guys

[errant berry]

looks like game streaming

[knotty flax]

ya

[little leaf]

Ok

[desert gulch]

So Nvidia gpu

[errant berry]

mhm

[desert gulch]

For streaming

[little leaf]

What games

At what fps

[desert gulch]

What budget?

[little leaf]

Guys lmao

[errant berry]

ya

[little leaf]

Hes new he does t know

Just calm down

[errant berry]

well budget is budget but i see what you mean

im chillin

[desert gulch]

Yeha

[knotty flax]

stuff like Rainbow Six Siege those kind of games

[little leaf]

So fps

[errant berry]

ive heard intel has better single core performance so id assume a higher end pc build would work

[little leaf]

Any other games?

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[knotty flax]

or rpg

[desert gulch]

R6 isn't very demanding

[errant berry]

mhm

i get like 180

[desert gulch]

On max settings?

[errant berry]

close

very high

max like 140

[knotty flax]

Elder Scroll games Call of Duty dead by daylight

[errant berry]

cod should be interesting

idk how demanding that is

but id assume its a little demanding

[little leaf]

Ok so those arent that demanding

[errant berry]

oh nvm

[exotic marten]

Cod is for sure

[still roost]

rнιиσ#0096 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little leaf]

Eh

[errant berry]

i dont jave it so i wouldnt know

[knotty flax]

Call of Duty is somewhat demanding

[little leaf]

A 1650s can run cod fine

[errant berry]

wow really

thats surprising

[knotty flax]

ya

[little leaf]

A 970 can to

[errant berry]

my god

[exotic marten]

My CPU throttles in menu

[little leaf]

Rx 570 too

3100 and 970/570/580

Is a good choixe for a 500 dollar list

Dragon is there any target fps you want?

@exotic marten my pc throttles in menu and J have a 9700k

The game just does that in menu

[knotty flax]

no there's no particular FPS game I want but I do want a good range of games I could play with the computer

[exotic marten]

@little leaf I got 6600k @4.2

[little leaf]

@knotty flax do you have a monitor?

Or how many frames per second do you want?

[knotty flax]

I would like a Max of 120 fms on games

but I'm okay with 60 recording

[little leaf]

Ok so maybe a budget of like 1k-1.2k

Or lower

But less fps

[knotty flax]

i got to go but thank you for the help

[little leaf]

Are you building the pc rn?

If not just wait for rtx3000 in like 2 days

[knotty flax]

cool

thank you for the help

[charred pasture]

hi

[errant berry]

hello

[candid saffron]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K8fQtp

How is that pc?

[ripe wedge]

@hearty mist apparently he never pressed the power button on the case

[little osprey]

[ripe wedge]

@candid saffron I would wait on rtx 3000

two days until unveiling

[candid saffron]

Aren’t those going to be crazy expensive?

[ripe wedge]

they are going to be around the same price

[candid saffron]

And will the cards like 2070s go on sale or lower price?

[ripe wedge]

they have rumored to be just slightly higher priced than the last gen 2000 series

and most likely not

they have stopped production I think on 2000 series

[candid saffron]

Alright thanks

I guess that’s why the windforce 2070s is sold out

[ripe wedge]

yup

but the 3000 series will be like 40%-60% higher performance than the 2000 series

[candid saffron]

Wow

So I’ll wait for next series and if it’s too high priced I’ll go for a 2070s

[ripe wedge]

so it will be worth the slight price increase

[candid saffron]

Ok. Thanks that helped a lot

[hearty mist]

@hearty mist apparently he never pressed the power button on the case
@ripe wedge omfg

[meager pumice]

@tiny forge is it better to have the three fans on the back as intake or esauhst

[tiny forge]

I have the fan on the back of my case pushing air out from the PC

And the ones in the front pulling air in

So it’s a constant flow of new air

[meager pumice]

hmm

[desert gulch]

Intakes will do more than exausts

But you don't want all your fans pushing air in

Other wise hot air can't go out

[plush silo]

Is the 3090 being released on September first or are they just announcing it

[buoyant flame]

So i've had this weird problem for a while now and I need some help, "again." I have this secondary pc that im building, and I cannot get it to post. Its a 2600 and 1070 build. Initially, I thought it was the motherboard's fault, however, I am now on my second rma board. I began testing the components on my main rig, which has a debugging light on the mobo, and I have noticed one strange thing. When I try to boot with the 1070 in there, the debugging light never gets past the "vga" even tho the system posts after a couple seconds.

Any ideas where the issue is coming from?

Update: I just tried my 2060 in with the 2600 and 1 stick of ram out of my person rig, same issue. No signal and no power from the usbs on the motherboard

[trail wraith]

Ok. I think maybe this is THE place for assistance!
First build and first thing, I think I ordered the wrong size case for MSI B450 TOMAHAWK mb
Thought I was being so-o-o careful.
Ordered Corsair Carbide 88r case
mb is MSI B450 TOMAHAWK
Don't think they go together, do they!?

[final orchid]

if you want to put the MSI B450 TOMAHAWK mb into the Corsair Carbide Series 88R then no it would not fit

as the motherboard is ATX and the case is for MATX motherboards

[foggy hazel]

https://www.perfecttechreviews.com/img/ATX-vs-Micro-ATX-vs-Mini-ITX.png

you are trying to fit the left most into a case that at max accepts the middle version

[plush wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/z97KYH this is what my potential build looks like currently after talking last night. Primarily for gaming. Budget is $1000 and I dont have to worry about sales tax here as there is none.

[final orchid]

so if i were you i would return the casse and get a bigger one

[trail wraith]

shoot... Thanks

Standard or Micro

[final orchid]

wait no standard

my bad

[trail wraith]

I read some where that the Corsair 88R would work but obviously I was wrong.

[final orchid]

a case like this https://www.amazon.com/NZXT-H510-Management-Water-Cooling-Construction/dp/B07TC76671/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=ATX+case&qid=1598740258&sr=8-2

it may not be your style so you can keep looking but look for a case thats about htat size

[mystic wyvern]

I need help

[final orchid]

yes

[mystic wyvern]

I need to pick between this options

[final orchid]

mk

[buoyant flame]

Sry to ping but do you have any ideas for my issue? @foggy hazel

[foggy hazel]

still thinking about it @buoyant flame

and dont worry about the pings :)

[buoyant flame]

Ok, just didn't want it to get lost in the chat

It was a lot of typing lol

[foggy hazel]

:)

[mystic wyvern]

Can’t paste a picture oh no

[final orchid]

can u paste the picture in dms?

[mystic wyvern]

MSI Laptop Modern 14 A10M-882 Intel Core i5 10th Gen 10210U (1.60 GHz) 8 GB Memory 512 GB NVMe SSD Intel UHD Graphics 14.0" Windows 10 Home 64-bit

[foggy hazel]

@mystic wyvern its our anti spam bot in action.

[final orchid]

k

[mystic wyvern]

ASUS VivoBook S14 S433 Thin and Light 14" FHD, Intel Core i5-10210U CPU, 8 GB DDR4 RAM, 512 GB PCIe SSD, Windows 10 Home, S433FA-DS51-WH, Dreamy White

ASUS VivoBook 15 Thin and Light Laptop, 15.6" FHD Display, Intel i5-1035G1 CPU, 8 GB RAM, 256 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD, Backlit Keyboard, Fingerprint, Windows 10, Slate Gray, F512JA-NH56

Acer Nitro 5 17.3" Gaming Laptop Intel i5-9300H 2.40GHz 8GB Ram 512GB SSD Win10H

Ok guys please which one will be better

[final orchid]

mk lemme research these

id go with the Acer Nitro 5

do you plan to game with these? @mystic wyvern

[mystic wyvern]

Well it is for my son for school and he always want to download a game to play so i thought maybe 2 in 1 but it doesn’t matter is mainly for documents , music , Download and classes online

I want the laptop to be fast and have space

[final orchid]

would you like more than a TB of space or is 512GB good enough

[mystic wyvern]

I posted 4 laptops

[final orchid]

i saw

and i would go with the Acer Nitro

[mystic wyvern]

More space bigger

[final orchid]

Acer Nitro 5 17.3" Gaming Laptop Intel i5-9300H 2.40GHz 8GB Ram 512GB SSD Win10H

[mystic wyvern]

I’m just too bad to research 😦

[final orchid]

as the Acer Nitro 5 17.3" is good for school and light gaming

[mystic wyvern]

That is nice however I tried to don’t spend too much 😫

[final orchid]

whats your budget?

[mystic wyvern]

Acer 5 ok

Up to $700

[final orchid]

ok

[mystic wyvern]

Can be refurbished as well

[final orchid]

ok let me find something for you

[mystic wyvern]

Nitro 5 is refurbished for $650 I like that one

[final orchid]

from where?

[mystic wyvern]

New egg do you see another one 🙂 please ty

[final orchid]

i see one thats around $800 including tax

[mystic wyvern]

Acer Nitro 5 17.3" Gaming Laptop Intel i5-9300H 2.40GHz 8GB Ram 512GB SSD Win10H $649 refurbished

Really wowo I should get it then since is on sale right ?

[final orchid]

the one on newegg is out of stock

[mystic wyvern]

On my end still show available

[final orchid]

oh ok

[mystic wyvern]

But it is refurbished tho

That’s why

[final orchid]

https://www.neweggbusiness.com/product/product.aspx?item=9siv2y1azc6452

take a look at that one

[mystic wyvern]

Trying it send a link but the bot me didn’t allow me it is the same

It is good that one too

[final orchid]

there the same just ones more expensive

but yeah go with the refurbished one that you were looking at

i think your son will like it

[mystic wyvern]

Great finally ty so much ...

[final orchid]

No problem, have a good day. Hope your son enjoys it!

[mystic wyvern]

Just placed the order whohoo 🙂 great deal thanks again for all your help have a great day

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3JY36R good build under 1000??

[viral ore]

yeah, that's pretty good

but if youre gonna get a TB of SSD, I would suggest a TB of actually good SSD. the A60 isn't all that great

[little osprey]

i was gonna go with a 512 instead of a tb

[viral ore]

but, considering your budget, you would be better off with 512 and a 2tb hdd

yeah, actually

[little osprey]

ok well any recommendations on the hdd

[viral ore]

there's this cheap Seagate one that's pretty good

hold on

[little osprey]

alr

theres this one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BcQG3C/seagate-barracuda-compute-2-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dmz08dm008

[vernal skiff]

Hello my good people.

[viral ore]

I just changed a few things for now

[little osprey]

yeah that seems fine.

[viral ore]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B4RDBZ

much cheaper mobo

[vernal skiff]

Im a rookie techy, MEANING-I know enough to know when to ask for help😆

[little osprey]

samee

i think ill stick with the msi motherboard

[viral ore]

that board isn't worth it

the one I put in can easily handle a 3100

it can easily handle a 3700x

at stock obv

[vernal skiff]

Welcoming recommendations and advice: On Building a desktop solely to handle #FlightSimulater2020. Im not sure of the price ranges, so Ill just say from highend to lowest end and Ill figure it out from there. I do want the build to handle really awesome graphics. Orrrr would it be cheaper to just buy a prebuild? If so, I welcome recommendations on that idea as well.

[viral ore]

building it yourself is always the cheaper option

[little osprey]

yeah but what if it doesnt come with the newest bios update

[vernal skiff]

Im listening👍🏾

[viral ore]

it does

if your so concerned about that you could have gotten a b550 board for the same price as the msi board you listed

[little osprey]

well alright

[viral ore]

it's been almost a year since that bios update was released, there are no more boards with the old bios, unless the mobo product page specifically lists it as not supporting 3rd gen

[little osprey]

ah okk well thanks

i was just looking for cheaper builds even though my budged originally was about 1600. i am waiting for the 3000 series tho

budget*

you think buying windows for the full 100 is worth it?

[viral ore]

if your waiting for that, just wait till the cards drop

no, there are windows keys on ebay

[little osprey]

alr

and yeah i will wait for them and if they arent in my budget ill just have to go with the 2000 series

[viral ore]

don't plan around something that doesn't exist yet. if you wanna wait for the cards, then actually wait.

or, just buy now

the 16/20 series are fine cards, they won't lose performance when the new cards drop

[little osprey]

yeah i know, i can easily upgrade if i got the 1660 super to better cards but im still gonna wait

[viral ore]

don't blow 230 dollars on a card you're just gonna replace in a month

[little osprey]

yeah ofc im gonna use it for a while

not gonna upgrade right away

[viral ore]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2xZhWb

switched out the PSU and case, unless you liked the other case you can switch back to it

[little osprey]

yeah i had the other case since it had 2 fans in the front

oh wait that one does too i didnt see em

im gonna keep the other case tho. thanks for the help

[little osprey]

so everytime i restart my pc(if i click the restart button) it looks normal and boots up fine until it gets to the black windows 10 boot up screen where it freezes and doesn't do anything unless i turn it off with the power button. any ideas on how to fix this?

[fast dust]

Don’t use the reset button

Restart*

Nobody ever uses that lol

You can just hit restart in windows

[little osprey]

thats what i click

and only that options makes it freeze

[calm crypt]

Hey y’all so I’m trying to build a pc for my brother just a cheap little thing to run fortnite on lowish settings with an hd 7570 and an i5 3300 I put in an old optiplex. It won’t boot into windows... I’m plugging in the ssd I use on my pc with windows 10 pro and it doesn’t even notice it it just goes straight to the Intel boot agent I’ve sorta checked the bios any idea what it could be

[fast dust]

7570 wont run fortnite at 720p low just btw

and dont use a drive that already has windows. Use a clean one and install from there

[calm crypt]

Ye that’s not the gpu I’m using lol I forgot I swapped it out but I’ve tried that too and it just doesn’t work

[fast dust]

moving a windows install can be buggy, so, dont

[calm crypt]

Haha alright thanks I’ll try reinstalling on a drive again

[rose elm]

Hello, I'm looking to enter the PC world for the first time really. I have a good grasp with software but am clueless when it comes to hardware/components. Can anyone help?

[calm crypt]

Yea what u looking to do

[brittle spindle]

does it matter which way you put ur AIO?

[crisp ember]

Any recommendations on a 1tb m.2?

[brittle spindle]

Samsung 970 Evo Plus

[desert gulch]

Do you need 1tb?

[brittle spindle]

@crisp ember

[crisp ember]

I’m new to building so I don’t completely know but I was told ssd we’re faster so I was just going to get a m.2 and no hdd. Is that a bad idea?

[brittle spindle]

not really

HDDs are good for non gaming softwares and apps

[crisp ember]

So just a ssd is fine?

[brittle spindle]

Yeah

up to you

[crisp ember]

Alright thanks for the help

[brittle spindle]

if u wanna waste space on it for windows and everything else go ahead. I say u should really also get a HDD

[calm crypt]

Yea he’s right get like a smaller ssd and a big hdd

[unborn solstice]

nah id put your os on ssd

[desert gulch]

I would get 500 gig ssd and a 2tb hdd

Imo

[brittle spindle]

I have 1TB of SSD storage and 2TB of HDD

Can anyone answer my question tho?

[unborn solstice]

i have 1tb nvme 1tb ssd and 2tb hdd

[desert gulch]

Figment I think so

[brittle spindle]

does it matter which way you put ur AIO?
@brittle spindle

[crisp ember]

Does downloading games and such on a ssd with the os on it mess anything up?

[desert gulch]

I used stock cooler tho

So idk

[unborn solstice]

yes figment

can u send a pic of your pc/case?

[brittle spindle]

Ehh what way? Prolly from bottom to up right

I hate that

looks so ugly

[unborn solstice]

dont do that

can u send a pic?

[brittle spindle]

I'm not changing it I just wanted to know

[unborn solstice]

it depends on if u have front and back fans and what type of gpu u have

[brittle spindle]

2 intake fans, 2 exhaust fans. 2070 Super

3900x is my Processor

[unborn solstice]

no i mean where are all your fan mounting locations?

[brittle spindle]

2 intakes in front. 1 exhaust at top and in rear

[unborn solstice]

i mean like all possible slots not just where u have it

what case do u have?

[brittle spindle]

NZXT h510 elite

every spot is filled up

[unborn solstice]

oh i see

[brittle spindle]

so?

[unborn solstice]

well there isnt really any options in your case

[brittle spindle]

Everything is good

[unborn solstice]

but yes, aio placement matters

[brittle spindle]

okay

But literally every build I've ever seen has it like that so I made mine the same way

it cant be that bad for the AIO

right?

Could shorten the life, but by how much exactly

[unborn solstice]

the worst thing u can do for your aio is put the cpu block at the highest point. there is inevitably some air in there that will starve/ overheat your pump if u do

so bottom aio is bad

[brittle spindle]

no I mean the tube placement

not the actual radiator sorry. Shouldve clarified

[unborn solstice]

oh u mean if u should just flip your rad upside down so the tubes are on bottom?

[brittle spindle]

yeah

I just wanna know if it really matters

[earnest olive]

@brittle spindle I did a build for a customer with the same case and cooler

[unborn solstice]

thats not a huge deal but u should check out gamers nexus’ vid on aios

[earnest olive]

he had it like that

[brittle spindle]

I did

Its ugly af

[earnest olive]

I flipped rad upside down and put fans in front of rad in pull config

[brittle spindle]

its not as bad as he makes it seem

[earnest olive]

temps dropped by 15C

[unborn solstice]

https://youtu.be/BbGomv195sk

[brittle spindle]

yeah I saw it lmao

[earnest olive]

but it seems like you're looking for validation rather than an actual answer

[brittle spindle]

but its not a huge deal at all

no its a question

[earnest olive]

I literally just said I observed a 15C difference with your exact same case and cooler

but apparently that's not a huge deal

whatever

[brittle spindle]

Nah not temps. Im more concerned about the life of the cooler

My temps are fine

[earnest olive]

[jagged ember]

Brother

[deep skiff]

hm

what we talking about

[brittle spindle]

I was asking if it really mattered where the tubes on an AIO went. I just wanna know if its a big affect on the life of the cooler

depending on which way it goes

[jagged ember]

Just don't stress the tubes

Too much

[spiral zealot]

it does matter, and the amount of difference varies from case to case. but it's definitely optimal to either have the rad on top, or if it's front mounted, to have the tubes on the bottom

[brittle spindle]

@jagged ember u mean like pulling of them/ how "tight" they are?

[jagged ember]

Don't like squish them or force them into a weird bend when you install it

[spiral zealot]

i don't have room to flip mine, but i keep the pump below the top of the loop, and i'm using an H100i on a threadripper, idling in the low/mid 30's.

[deep skiff]

my tubes do a loop de loop

[brittle spindle]

oh yeah I didnt do that

[jagged ember]

But also chauntalei's advice applies

Use gravity to your advantage

[earnest olive]

literally used the exact same cooler and case yesterday

it is a massive difference in this case

[jagged ember]

👍

[brittle spindle]

Okay. But is there an estimated time that is taken off the life of cooler when its the other way (the tubes)

[jagged ember]

?

O

[spiral zealot]

there is no way to determine that because every single use case and lifecycle is different

[brittle spindle]

Okay

thanks

[jagged ember]

Yeah it's basically impossible to estimate

[brittle spindle]

Great

[spiral zealot]

if you are pushing massive heat through the cooler on a 24/7 basis, then yeah it will probably shorten the life span to some degree with the tubes up vs down

[jagged ember]

That's why I like air coolers

Only have to switch the fans

[brittle spindle]

Oh nah my temps are almost always in the low 40s

[spiral zealot]

but there's no way to come up with any real estimate

[vocal hare]

they just a bit chonky sometimes

[jagged ember]

Aio inherently have more points of failure

[earnest olive]

it literally looks better with the tubes on the bottom in this case

just flip it lmao

[jagged ember]

Sure do

[earnest olive]

this looks incredibly painful

[jagged ember]

Gravity does not help there

[earnest olive]

also there's no way you have temps in the 40s in prime95

lmao

[jagged ember]

It must go back up

[brittle spindle]

Yeah

[earnest olive]

it's an H510 with a 240mm AIO

that's not possible

[jagged ember]

Hmm, it is a 3900x

[vocal hare]

oh yuck a h510

[jagged ember]

Maybe it's undervolted?

[spiral zealot]

i might actually try and flip my rad this weekend, maybe i can get it to work

[earnest olive]

it doesn't matter there's no way it'll be low 40s in prime95

[spiral zealot]

i don't like how the tubes run right now

even though the pump is below the top of the loop

[jagged ember]

Oof

[earnest olive]

okay? and what are you running on it

lmao

[spiral zealot]

is that at idle?

[jagged ember]

That's mid 40s

[earnest olive]

that says absolutely nothing

[jagged ember]

Even if that was prime95...

[earnest olive]

idle at 45C is high for liquid cooling

[brittle spindle]

its overclocked @4.5ghz

[earnest olive]

i'm at lower than that on my $30 air cooling

[jagged ember]

I get rather close on stock cooler

[earnest olive]

oh boy i bet you have it at 1.325V

[jagged ember]

But I have 3600

[spiral zealot]

because my 180W TDP threadripper idles like 10 degrees cooler than that and it's not even using a real TR block, it's a round asetek block with an adapter

[brittle spindle]

How do I check idle tho? I'm not good with Ryzen Master

[jagged ember]

Aand it's on power saving mode lol

[edgy viper]

My cpu idles at like 40c

[jagged ember]

Hwinfo64

[earnest olive]

https://www.mersenne.org/download/#download

[jagged ember]

Hwinfo64 good tho

[earnest olive]

show us 45 temps in prime95 small ffts

🙂

[brittle spindle]

how do I disable now

[jagged ember]

If you're asking about stopping time

[brittle spindle]

or am I waiting

[jagged ember]

You can't do that

[brittle spindle]

No stopping the test

I cant?

[jagged ember]

Dunno

Never ran prime95

I don't want to cook my CPU with a tiny stock cooler

[earnest olive]

what's your temps now 😂

[brittle spindle]

High

[jagged ember]

Mm

[brittle spindle]

How do I disable it

or stop it

[jagged ember]

Prime95 is called torture test for a reason

[earnest olive]

my little $30 air cooler is chillin

[brittle spindle]

lmao

[earnest olive]

show us your temps and i'll tell you how to stop it

😂

[jagged ember]

LoL

[brittle spindle]

Why? I never said you were wrong

[earnest olive]

cause i wanna see it

[brittle spindle]

Its running average at 77

[jagged ember]

Still safe ngl

If it goes above 90 its concerning

[brittle spindle]

Again I know nothing in this arena

the max is 95

[jagged ember]

Yes

Got that right

👍

Don't let it go there

[brittle spindle]

lmao it say that in Ryzen Master

[jagged ember]

hahaha

[earnest olive]

what's your voltage at

[brittle spindle]

lol thanks

[earnest olive]

chances are it's too high

[brittle spindle]

1.38125

[earnest olive]

yeah...

[jagged ember]

Eep

[earnest olive]

that's way too high

[brittle spindle]

It wont let me OC to its max 4.6

[earnest olive]

that's killyourchipin2weeks high

[jagged ember]

Chip being fried

By volts

[brittle spindle]

What should I put it at

[earnest olive]

run prime95 with PBO enabled to determine maximum safe voltage

[brittle spindle]

okay

[earnest olive]

usually 1.238-1.263

depending on the chip

mine is 1.238

[jagged ember]

Never 1.3 tbh

[brittle spindle]

how do I run that

[earnest olive]

i just leave it on PBO because PBO does better in games

[brittle spindle]

PBO

[jagged ember]

From what I understand that will damage the CPU

[earnest olive]

turn it on in bios

[jagged ember]

Ryzen master can do that too tho

[brittle spindle]

where at

Precision Boost Overdrive?

right

[earnest olive]

if you have a 3900X you're probably not primarily gaming though

[jagged ember]

Yep

[earnest olive]

yes

[jagged ember]

Pbo

[brittle spindle]

yes I am primarily gaming

[jagged ember]

[earnest olive]

should've bought 3600 + 2080S then

[brittle spindle]

And I just click that and press apply?

[jagged ember]

Yeet

[earnest olive]

i don't trust ryzen master for overclocking

[jagged ember]

Might prompt a reboot

[earnest olive]

i only use bios

[jagged ember]

Fair is fair

[brittle spindle]

that gets annoyinh

[jagged ember]

You choose the method

[brittle spindle]

but yeah BIOS works better ig

[earnest olive]

i turned every fan in my pc to 100% to see how my temps would drop... but it's surprisingly quiet

[brittle spindle]

do i press run small ffts now

[jagged ember]

Are they all noctuas

[earnest olive]

yes

watch voltage drop

should be somewhere around 1.25

[jagged ember]

CPU go brr

[earnest olive]

look for Vcore and not VID

[brittle spindle]

where do I find that

[earnest olive]

not sure about ryzen master

[brittle spindle]

in p95?

oh

[earnest olive]

hwinfo has a Vcore field

[jagged ember]

It's a good software

Now with a portable version

[brittle spindle]

1,29

1.29

[earnest olive]

let it run for longer

it'll probably drop more

check back in 15 mins

[brittle spindle]

it was maxing out. u sure?

[jagged ember]

It's already dropped tho

From what it was before

So yeah give it more time

[earnest olive]

are you sure you want to take risks with your $400 processor

🙂

[brittle spindle]

no lmao

$500

[jagged ember]

E

[earnest olive]

but honestly

you should just keep PBO on if you're primarily gaming

[brittle spindle]

its at 47 with PBO on

[earnest olive]

ryzen boosting algorithm is far more intelligent than a manual override

[brittle spindle]

should I change my voltage now

yes

[earnest olive]

my CPU does 4.1ghz all core maximum

up to 4.5ghz on 2 cores with PBO

with other cores at 4

[brittle spindle]

should I change my voltage

[earnest olive]

for PBO voltage should be left auto

some people use negative offsets with mixed success

[brittle spindle]

Idk how to set it to auto

is it automatically on auto

[earnest olive]

in bios just deleting the number will set it to auto

i don't know anything about doing it in ryzen master

[brittle spindle]

okay

[earnest olive]

i see a miniscule benefit from -25mV offset and performance loss at -50mV or higher

[brittle spindle]

everything underneath "voltage control" is set to auto

[earnest olive]

some people claim to see benefits from -50mV or even -100mV

varies chip by chip

[brittle spindle]

it says maximum is 1.38

[earnest olive]

some people can't put any voltage offset without losing performance

auto voltage can safely go much higher than manual voltage

up to 1.5V is fine on auto, but manual needs to be much lower

intelligent boosting algorithm

[brittle spindle]

so my voltage control?

lower?

[topaz sandal]

auto

[earnest olive]

just leave it on auto, play with offset later if you want

[jagged ember]

Lol yep

[brittle spindle]

the thing is I manually set that, but everything under controls is auto

[earnest olive]

just auto everything related to voltage except dram, xmp should be taking care of that

[brittle spindle]

okay

everything is on auto.

Should I flip my Rad

[earnest olive]

absolutely

configure it like the picture i sent

it has a bonus of you actually being able to see the rgb fans too

so

[brittle spindle]

okay. will I have to move my wires (probably cant tell me)

[earnest olive]

screw radiator to fan tray first using short radiator screws

then use long fan screws to screw fans into rad

i literally flipped this yesterday

guy paid me $25 to do it

[brittle spindle]

how long does it take

[earnest olive]

i did it in 10 mins without being familiar with the case

didn't unplug anything either

[brittle spindle]

those rad fans are set as intake?

[earnest olive]

yeah intake pulling air through rad

[brittle spindle]

okay

my fans dont light up on my rad for some reason

[earnest olive]

more airflow for VRMs that way as well

since you don't have an air cooler moving air in the CPU area

nice to have a little air blowing over the VRM heatsinks

[brittle spindle]

how did u not unplug anything lmao

[jagged ember]

Even if it's slightly heated air

[earnest olive]

though it's not critical

i rested the fans on top of the gpu while i was remounting the rad

[jagged ember]

Better than none

[earnest olive]

worked fine

did not need to unplug either fan or unmount the water block

[errant berry]

what service do yall ship with, i normally use usps they pretty good

[brittle spindle]

I think I may have to unplug some wires

[spiral zealot]

i only ship with usps

[jagged ember]

Lmao sips you tell them

[errant berry]

yessir

[spiral zealot]

usually flat rate if i can, depending on what i'm shipping

[earnest olive]

my past 10 packages from usps have all been delayed, lost, or damaged

[errant berry]

my god

you really have reasons for that

[earnest olive]

i bought a gift for my friend through usps 2 months ago, usps is pretending that the package doesn't exist

[spiral zealot]

i haven't had a single problem with them, even through all the shenanigans going on right now

[errant berry]

thought it was a joke

same

[earnest olive]

sent them a customer service inquiry 1.5 months after expected delivery date, 1 week later they emailed me back a middle finger

[jagged ember]

E

[errant berry]

wow

[spiral zealot]

i have nothing but trouble with fedex

[errant berry]

yo really

facts

[spiral zealot]

and UPS is just too expensive overall

[errant berry]

mhm

[earnest olive]

ordered some stuff on newegg for customer builds recently, they went through UPS, everything was fine, then UPS handed it over to the post office for final delivery

they've been at the post office for a week now

[errant berry]

is it

[earnest olive]

4 day shipping btw

[errant berry]

usps

[earnest olive]

yeah post office is USPS

[spiral zealot]

they're having trouble in various parts of the country

[errant berry]

this part especially

[spiral zealot]

but i'm like, in a major metropolitan area

and have had zero delays

[errant berry]

same

[earnest olive]

i'm in a suburban area

[spiral zealot]

i'm in suburbia but i'm 10 minutes from san francisco

and 30 minutes from san jose

[errant berry]

oh im like 45 minuts from dallas

[earnest olive]

this package has legit just been sitting in the post office for 7 days with no updates

[errant berry]

idk if that is metropolitan

[spiral zealot]

and i haven't had a single issue. i've been selling things and shipping them out, and buying things on reddit/ebay

[earnest olive]

other package i ordered was set to arrive 27th, my entire family was at home

[errant berry]

i rarely get issues

[spiral zealot]

bought a case on wegg, it was here 3 days earlier than initially quoted

went ups to usps for final delivery

[earnest olive]

they didn't knock on the door or ring the doorbell, i went to check mailbox and saw a "failed delivery" notice posted on the door

when all of us were home

[errant berry]

wow

[earnest olive]

so i scheduled redelivery for 28th and it didn't arrive

[spiral zealot]

that's the kind of stuff that fedex/ups do to me

failed delivery notice when they never even tried

[errant berry]

that's actually crazy tho

[earnest olive]

according to tracking history they have now moved it to a different city for absolutely no reason

after not even trying to deliver it

[brittle spindle]

Hey @earnest olive did u have to unscrew the rad from the bracket?

[earnest olive]

yes

unscrew it and flip it around then use the short radiator screws to screw it in

[brittle spindle]

did u have to remove the pump from the CPU?

[earnest olive]

no

[brittle spindle]

k

[next kestrel]

3000g, a320 board, 2x4gb ram and i guess a really cheap psu

u dont need a case :))

new and 150$ really dont match up

[spiral zealot]

you could do a really cheap celeron build maybe

like...G4930, 4GB RAM, really cheap H310 board

but even then

[next kestrel]

new?

uhh

[spiral zealot]

yeah

G4930 is like $30-40

and I think MSI has a board for like $50-55 that will work

plus maybe $20 for ram

for a single 4gb stick

and the celeron has iGPU

[unreal lily]

what is faster, 19-20-20-40 or 18-22-22-42?

[next kestrel]

2nd one

i think

[spiral zealot]

but literally, the cheapest case/PSU still pushed the price to $180

[next kestrel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hpptjp

165

[spiral zealot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HVKNDx $180 with a case lol

[next kestrel]

thats 200 considering ram

[spiral zealot]

ram is there

one 4gb stick

17 bucks

[earnest olive]

already showed this in gen chat

[next kestrel]

ya but its not priced

[earnest olive]

$150 new build is impossible

[spiral zealot]

yes it is

yes it's priced, not yes it's possible

[next kestrel]

theres an amazon warehouse deal on a b350, bringing the cost to like actually 150 total

for a 3000G build

[peak shore]

Woah

[chrome rampart]

OK, working on my first build and would like some advice. here is my list of parts so far:

corsair vengeance rgb pro 16gb , wd blue 1 tb ssd , samsung 970 evo 500gb ssd, corsair rm series 750w power supply, corsair carbide series 275r case, nvidia rtx 2060 super 8gb, rog strix b550-f motherboard , and amd ryzen 7 3700x cpu

[earnest olive]

first advice

use pcpartpicker

second advice

unless you need a pc right this moment, wait a few weeks for rtx 30xx

[plush wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dqjtjp so after a good bit of guidance, I believe I finally completed what my first gaming pc will be! Hope to get it within the next several months.

[little leaf]

@plush wigeon wait

Wait

That list

No

[plush wigeon]

???????

@little leaf what?

[little leaf]

2060s instead

[plush wigeon]

No. too expensive. $1000 is my limit

5600xt is best for what I'm gonna be doing, which is primarily gaming, with the possibility of basic online schooling (college stuff). Although if the price of the ryzen 5 3600 drops I might switch to that and possibly the 5700xt.

[little leaf]

No

It is not

And 5700xt

Can fit too

[rain bone]

well I think they're like 50-75 dollars more

maybe you can find one on sale

[plush wigeon]

As I said, the limit I'm going is $1000. I already looked and both 2060s and 5700xt would put me over that limit.

[little leaf]

lemme fix it

no it would not

[plush wigeon]

I am not changing any of the other components except possibly the processor and that is only if I can get something comparable to ryzen 5 3600x for under $200.

[rain bone]

why not just the 3600?

would save like 10 bucks ? haha

[plush wigeon]

It is currently only $10 cheaper. So 3600x is better.

[rain bone]

realized that as I was typing lol

[little leaf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7vg2HB

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dMBwNq

[rain bone]

man said he could do it, so he did it

[plush wigeon]

I'm not changing the case I picked. I settled on that one instead of the cougar for a reason. I like the aesthetic a lot more, and the airflow is great. I'm also a first time builder so I'd like an easier case and the one I picked is.

[little leaf]

Go ahead change the case

[plush wigeon]

2nd one is also over the $1000 limit. even $1 over is still over.

[little leaf]

ok let me fix then lmao

[rain bone]

you would be over with taxes, pc doesnt include that does it?

*pc part picker

[little leaf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/td36YH

[plush wigeon]

I don't have sales tax here.

[rain bone]

ah okay nvm then

I'm sure something would be discounted so it would be below 1000 without haveing to change memory speed

[little leaf]

won't change the perf very much

[rain bone]

I suppose, not going to be doing overclocking or gaming too much so guess it doesnt matter

nvm is for gaming, I am blind

be okay either way

[molten agate]

what would be a good build to start with? I7? I5? then of course 16gb of ram? go RTX? 1-2 TB of ssd with 1 tb hardrive? anything else that could be good?

fans or water cooling?

my budget is $1500

[shrewd tundra]

Ight

Wait

I reccomend you to wait for the nvidia 3000 gpu series

And amd big navi and 4th gen ryzen cpu if you can wait longer

[shy cradle]

I'm working on my first budget gaming PC build. Is a GTX 1050 worth it or are there better options in the same price range?

Will I be able to generally run games from 2018 and prior well?

No game in specific, just thinks from before 2018

I'm not expecting to run Modern Warfare max graphics, I just need a decent upgrade from my 2008 gpu

Ok, thank you

[civic kiln]

Can someone help me out is my list okay ://pcpartpicker.com/list/73jDPn

I know I cant send links :(

just add http

Someone had told me spend more for the ryzen 5 3600

But idrk

Budget is around 500

Already have case, ram, and gpu

Well the card I got for free

So its a start

Yeah

[jagged ember]

Nice

[civic kiln]

So thats not included in the budget

Yeah it was 65

So was the ram

Already bought

[jagged ember]

I'd check up on the PSU tier list to confirm its integrity

[civic kiln]

I eventually want to upgrade the gpu also

[jagged ember]

At least it's not a TT smart tho

[civic kiln]

oh I’ll probably get an evga one for a little more money

[jagged ember]

Maybe go for a 3600cl16 kit w/o rgb

[shrewd tundra]

@molten agate can you state what are you mainly gonna do with your pc?

[jagged ember]

Also have you considered the mp34?

As an ssd

512gb is 67 bucks

[civic kiln]

thats cheap

What would be the difference from the one i have though

Sorry im noob

[jagged ember]

It's good performance

Check the SSD list in #storage-devices if u wanna confirm

it's nvme which is also nice

8700k tho

:(

I'd personally get 3600

Same cores many threads

I dunno pricing tho for that cpu

[molten agate]

@shrewd tundra gaming, school, etc...

[jagged ember]

Okay, ig

Fair enough

[shrewd tundra]

So you mainly focus on gaming

[jagged ember]

Fair is fair

Mm

PSU is c tier

Recommended for low end builds

May wanna go for something tier b

CX gray or csm Gold

Fair

Okay I sleep

[crisp ember]

If I were to install a hdd later how much would I have to disassemble?

[jagged ember]

Hope I helped

[shrewd tundra]

@molten agate keep in mind that the gigabyte Windforce oc 2070super is under 500 dollars

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7ddptp

[shrewd tundra]

His budget is 1500

I alr tried fitting in a 2080

[minor lynx]

Need help

[little osprey]

Don't we all

[minor lynx]

can I dm the picture?

[little osprey]

I'm about to go to sleep
But maybe someone else can help

[minor lynx]

fine with that

[latent lava]

Yo I’m thinking of getting a Acer nitro 5 and upgrading it with another stick of ram

With a total of 16 gigs of ram

[minor lynx]

do you travel alot?

[latent lava]

Kinda

[minor lynx]

I suggest mini itx pc

oh wait

[latent lava]

I want something I can use for school and for gaming

[minor lynx]

send the specifications

[latent lava]

It’s a 10th gen i 5 with 8 gigs ram standard. 256 gigs ssd and a gtx 1650

[minor lynx]

1650 laptops baddd

[latent lava]

And a extra 8 gig ram stick

[minor lynx]

get like 1660ti if you can

1660ti recommended

[latent lava]

That model is out of my budget

I’m just trying to play smaller titles

[minor lynx]

I am not sure about 1650 laptop

we all know how 1650 is

[latent lava]

Stuff like Minecraft and CS GO

[minor lynx]

basic?

[latent lava]

Yeah

[minor lynx]

not sure-

the 1650 is untrustable that's why

I recommend the microsoft server

they can help you there

[latent lava]

I’ve never had a gaming centered laptop or PC so I’m really new to it

But ok thanks

[minor lynx]

ah okay

he travels

not only country

place to place

It’s a 10th gen i 5 with 8 gigs ram standard. 256 gigs ssd and a gtx 1650
@latent lava

sorry for ping

[latent lava]

Yeah what he said

699

[minor lynx]

🤣

69

699

[latent lava]

Nice

[minor lynx]

if ya all were here

the prices are so bad

[latent lava]

Same

[minor lynx]

I would be proud to be american

lets take this to #general-chat

or mods gonna be angry

[latent lava]

Ok

[worthy island]

can anyone help to build a pc for me 😅

i'm a 13 year old kid who loves 3D modeling and gaming

and programming as well

[deft quest]

i'm a 13 year old kid who loves 3D modeling and gaming
@worthy island well Windows 10 comes with 3D Viewer so you can do anything

[worthy island]

no i am good at blender and maya

[deft quest]

I only like blender just to get a Dount model

[craggy zodiac]

Is this pc good
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700x, A 7nm architecture , 8 core, 16 threads with a base clock speed of 3.6 Ghz and Overclocked Speeds of upto 4.4 Ghz, With default TDP of 65W and Max temp of 95°C.
Graphics card Gigabyte RTX 2080 Super, 8 Gb of VRAM and 3 Fans
Motherboard Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard
CPU Cooler Corsair Hydro Series H100i RGB PLATINUM 240mm Liquid CPU Cooler

RAM Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory
ROM Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
PSU Corsair RM (2019) 750 W, 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

Case Corsair iCUE 220T, RGB Airflow Tempered Glass Mid-Tower Smart Case — White

[little leaf]

@craggy zodiac use pcpartpicker and wait for rtx 3000

[craggy zodiac]

thanks

i used Pc partpicker

[little leaf]

And please dont post in every chanell

Just build chat

If you can dm the pcpp link

And dont post in build pics please

Unless you have a pic

[worthy island]

@craggy zodiac How much is that pc

[little leaf]

Tax?

@worthy island no ebegging

[worthy island]

oh is it in #rules

sorry then

😢

[little leaf]

But 600$ is plenty for a decent pc

[worthy island]

no i need a RYZEN 7 or 9

[autumn wolf]

want or need?

[little leaf]

For?

[worthy island]

😥

[little leaf]

Why do u need 3700x lmao

[autumn wolf]

no, for the ryzen 7/9

do you need it or do you want it?

cause theres a difference

cause you can make do with a ryzen 5

[worthy island]

i wan't it because i'm a 3D modeler and i'm using an i5 8th gen laptop and it stucks

and MX230 graphics

so its not for for 3D

😅

[little leaf]

A 3600 can do it

And 3d modeling is more gpu intesive

[little osprey]

3600 is cheap and amazing

[autumn wolf]

though i dont know your experience in 3d modeling, ill assume youre at an entry/amateur level and if you need a pc now, what nom nom said will make do. a 3600 and then get a 20 series card or wait for a 30 series card

[plush wigeon]

The 3600x is currently only $10 more than the 3600, btw

[worthy island]

what do you mean by 10$ @plush wigeon

[autumn wolf]

10$ difference between the r5 3600 and r5 3600x

[worthy island]

oh ok thanks anyway

[autumn wolf]

if you want a pc now or even wait for a 30 series gpu from nvidia, depending on their price points compared to their performance, and depending on the software youre working with, ive always highly recommended the 2060 ko gpu

[craggy zodiac]

@craggy zodiac How much is that pc
@worthy island 2500

[worthy island]

hmm thanks

[plush wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QdpyJb This is mostly the build I'm going to go with. Processor is subject to change if 3600 price drops

[stoic island]

@plush wigeon no need for extra thermal paste, you should try to get 3600mhzc16 ram, maybe by getting a cheaper Mobo.

[still roost]

ClipzV YT#9924 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[odd crypt]

What mr said

Get the gaming plus @plush wigeon

[fading acorn]

hellooo

[cloud oasis]

hi

www.amazon.com/V-MODA-BoomPro-Microphone-Gaming-Communication/dp/B00BJ17WKK

www.amazon.com/Philips-SHP9500S-Precision-Over-ear-Headphones/dp/B00ENMK1DW
HEADSET^ COST 105$

mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=5461

110$

pcpartpicker.com/list/DgqvTC

www.amazon.com/Vitesse-Computer-Professional-Station-Headphone/dp/B07SH74QXY?th=1
150$

Thoughts

[stoic island]

Get a cheaper B550 ds3h or similar

Get a team MP34 instead of a80

a80 swapped controllers at some point to a crappier SM2262EN instead of e12

Ducky is good but I personally don't like 60%/65%

@cloud oasis I personally would go with a sennheiser pc37x at 120$ for the headset solution

[cloud oasis]

ok

[stoic island]

Desk wise idk, I just have a decent wood office desk :P

[cloud oasis]

My desk is really smōl rn

And i was gonna get a g pro wireless

But i said no

Also heres the pcpartlist i meant to send

pcpartpicker.com/list/szJsq3

[stoic island]

I have a g pro wireless >:D

It's nice, but too expensive

smth like a model o would be better for price to perf

[cloud oasis]

i think i want a g pro wireless

i just feel like its really smooth

is it?

[stoic island]

Yes, but might not be worth 150$ lol

where's the GPU?

[cloud oasis]

also does anything bad happen

like

Im waiting for 3000 series

[stoic island]

oh lol

[cloud oasis]

Whats the battery life

And what are problems

[stoic island]

Battery life is decent, I'd say a week of playing stuff after school, People have problems with right click double clicking, I did for a day, and it never came up again...

[cloud oasis]

good 👍

[stoic island]

I read that it was aparently static energy buildup, and just blew on it lol

I don't really know though

anyways some really quick adjustments @cloud oasis
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pY3KYH

built-in mobo wifi for cheaper, and b550

And I suggest you take a look at the Coolermaster TD500 mesh

I like that case better than p400a because cooler clearance doesn't fit the nice air coolers I like :P

but both are great

[errant berry]

i think you forgot the gpu

unless he didnt want it

[cloud oasis]

Ok

Also im waiting for 3000 series

[compact verge]

I bought that msi wifi board and can't get it to post

[fast dust]

Double check to make sure your cables are plugged in all the way

[compact verge]

Yeah, I've been unplugging and replugging everything

The led things on the motherboard are apparently telling me I don't have a cpu or vga

[fast dust]

So, try reseating your GPU and CPU

[errant berry]

oh

lol i didnt see that

[plush wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R7VrTC updated again

[ripe quest]

dont get the x

just get the regular r5 3600

[little osprey]

yea

the x is not worth it

and with the extra bucks u save

try for a 5700xt

but if not its fine