building-and-recc-chat

[ripe wedge]

gpuz wont do us any good

because it is an official card

[stoic island]

that reminds me, ima get aida64 on my school laptop :D

[ancient plinth]

Ok. I'll come back witht he error code when I fix the monitor

[ripe wedge]

👍

[ancient plinth]

Thanks for the help

[ripe wedge]

np

[stoic island]

I didn't even know it used ddr3 sdram

[little osprey]

Ouch

[hearty mist]

@ripe wedge that’s such a bad chipset for the price

[ripe wedge]

what is?

[hearty mist]

2060

For 270

370*

[ripe wedge]

yea

especially with 3000 series in 3 days

[hearty mist]

Word

[warm bay]

Hey so I just bought this G Skill ram from Amazon a week ago at $57 dollars.

I recently found what is basically the same ram with a lower latency of cl16 for like $20 more. Will the latency of having cl18 ram be almost negligible to buying the cl16 instead at a higher price. I'm not worried about penny pinching or anything but if it really doesn't matter I'm fine with what I have.

[little leaf]

Not that much of a difference

I wouldnt worry to much it not worth the time to return and then not have a pc for a week

[warm bay]

Okay good to hear, thanks

[wary geode]

hello

aw thats dumb valorant had a update

[gentle scroll]

Heyo new here, I have many questions. anyone got time?

[little leaf]

Yes

[wary geode]

yes

i have more time

[gentle scroll]

So, long story short, I'm trying to get a gaming desktop

[wary geode]

yes

[little leaf]

Budget

[wary geode]

food

[gentle scroll]

but im on a time constraint of about a month to get it all together

[wary geode]

rgb or none color scheme?

ez lol

it takes me 1-2 days to get parts lol

[gentle scroll]

and a budget of about 1200-1300 dollars

i already have a monitor, but im on the fence about it and im ready to return it if i can get something better

[vital warren]

got a link for the monitor you have?

[gentle scroll]

So, I don't care about rgb for anything except the keyboard and maybe some basic light strips.

I can post i quick pic from mobile if that works. if not ill just find it but itll take a sec

[vital warren]

link would probably be better

[gentle scroll]

k

[wary geode]

i got chu

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/n9RPjp @gentle scroll

Should be great I did include rgb but that doesn’t affect price I would recommend if you want to have it cheaper get a 2060 super and buy like a rmx 850 w

Or more storage lol

Rgb doesn’t affect cost tho so your fine maybe like 2-3$

[vital warren]

just throw in a 2tb hdd for $50 down the line when you do need more storage

[little leaf]

3700x is useless here

[wary geode]

eh i beg to disfer

difer

i mean 3600 is not bad but its not the best priced rn

[little leaf]

Its 200

[wary geode]

on another day ill chose it

if its below 180

[little leaf]

There is no point to spend money u dont need to

[wary geode]

3700x is kinda killer

and i would like to have a air cooler with the 3600 cause tuhe stock aint thta good

so itll be maybe like 225-250 anyways so spen the extra for the 3700x lol

sure its overkill but who doesnt need that

[little leaf]

People whi dont wanna spend more money

[wary geode]

lol i mean who knows the 30 series might perfectly pair to the 3700x

idk lol what about flight sim might give a lil boost

[unkempt jolt]

Nothing worse than waiting on foundation parts like the case and motherboard to come in to start the build.

[deep skiff]

lol ya my psu came like 5 days after the rest of the parts for me

[unkempt jolt]

I got my liquid CPU cooler first even though I ordered the case, motherboard and CPU first...

[little osprey]

Anyone know what kinda build is better? An intel or ryzen build?

[unkempt jolt]

Anyone have an complaints about using add-in card SSD? Motherboard has 3 card plug ins so I know one will be for the graphics card, another one for a sound card. But worried about taking the last slot for the SSD Incase I would ever want to run two graphic cards.

@little osprey depends what type of motherboard you have. People say that intel is more overpriced and you can get more cores for less money with ryzen

[little osprey]

I did hear that. I used neweggs part picker for an intel build and it was a pretty good build tbh

[unkempt jolt]

Yea I prefer intel too. I think the i7 10th gen is a good starting CPU. It’s almost as good as the I9 but cheaper.

[little osprey]

Motherboard is a msi pro z490 with an intel17 10700

[unkempt jolt]

Getting unlocked was also a must for me but i don’t know what your budget is

[little osprey]

As long as its under 2000 im good

[unkempt jolt]

2000 for the CPU alone? lol

[little osprey]

Oh no lmao

[unkempt jolt]

You could easily get the i9 unlock

[little osprey]

The whole build

[unkempt jolt]

Oh okay

[little osprey]

My build alone is around 1400 and 1700 including the monitor

[unkempt jolt]

I think the the i5 or i7 unlock would be fine for your build then . If you can overclock then you could run games and extra stuff with that

Lol

[little osprey]

We are?

[fast dust]

Freak thought I was in tecc deals

[little osprey]

Lol

[fast dust]

That’s embarrassing

$2000 for a build + monitors?

[unkempt jolt]

Don’t cheap out on the cooling system if you do a i7 or I9 and plan to overclock

[little osprey]

Yeah im not using the stock cooler and i dont plan to use liquid cooling either.

[fast dust]

On an overclocked i9 you’re gonna basically have to use water cooling

[little osprey]

Nah its an i7 and i dont plan to overclock either

[fast dust]

Gotcha, yeah you could use a beefier air cooler

Also, don’t build now. Wait a week or two for RTX 3000 series to come out

[little osprey]

Yeah ive heard intel stock coolers are pretty bad

[fast dust]

10700 probably doesn’t even come with a stock cooler

[little osprey]

does intel even give stock coolers

lol

I dont think mine does but i am getting one

[fast dust]

They give them on low end CPUs

[little osprey]

I just looked it up and it says it they do have stock coolers

[unkempt jolt]

Anyone have an complaints about using add-in card SSD? Motherboard has 3 card plug ins so I know one will be for the graphics card, another one for a sound card. But worried about taking the last slot for the SSD Incase I would ever want to run two graphic cards.
@unkempt jolt sooo no complaints about using add in cards for SSD?

[little osprey]

I dont know much about builds. this will be my first ever build

Oh and for the 3000 series i dont think it would even be compatible with an i7. Im getting a evga 2070 super

[unkempt jolt]

Theres a lot of YouTube videos about builders. I like watching the LynusTech ones but they build a lot of high stuff so it’s just nice to dream

[little osprey]

^

Ive seen a lot of crazy builds and i can only dream being able to do that and even keep them

[fast dust]

3000 series would 800% definitely be compatible with i7

I am positive

As long as you have a beefy enough PSU for it

[little osprey]

600w good enough?

[unkempt jolt]

I think 600w is good for that

[fast dust]

Probably, unless you’re getting a 3080 or 3090. Those are rumored to use a looooot if power, but 3090 is probably or do your budget

But also, wattage =/= quality what make and model 600w?

Gotta be lvl 3 to post links or images btw

[unkempt jolt]

Do links not work here??

Damn

[little osprey]

u have to be level 3

dm the link

or take out the https

https://

Its a thermaltake 600w 12v 80plus gold

[fast dust]

What model

[unkempt jolt]

Use that link to add in all your parts. It helps to see if they are compatible and tells you how much watts you need minimum

https:// pcpartpicker. com/

[little osprey]

www.newegg.com/thermaltake-ps-ttp-0600nnfagu-1-600w/p/N82E16817153395?item=N82E16817153395

[fast dust]

There are a few 600w 80+ gold thermaltake PSUs, all varying in quality

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com

[fast dust]

Yeah no. Bad PSU

[little osprey]

Really? I just used neweggs pc builder and thats what i got

thats really not good

and this shows everyone part

not parts only on newegg

Any recommendations?

[unkempt jolt]

Maybe go with modular if you wanted to have a clean looking build.. it cost a little extra though

[little osprey]

Alright ill see what i can find

[fast dust]

Do Corsair RM or RMx. Those are good units

[little osprey]

Alright ill check em out rn

[spiral zealot]

that's a pretty crazy difference @earnest olive

i'm running an H100i v2 on a threadripper, tubes down, and I idle at 33-35C, load hits 70-75ish

er, tubes up

[earnest olive]

interesting, might just be due to difference in the case

[spiral zealot]

but the barbs are still above the level of the pump

[earnest olive]

this one's an h100i rgb platinum se, not sure how different those would be

[spiral zealot]

which was the main thing i was aiming for

[earnest olive]

yeah tubes up definitely should still work most of the time or this wouldn't even be a conversation point

but for this specific build the tubes down was definitely far superior

[spiral zealot]

yeah, definitely. i just find it really interesting how much of a case by case basis this kind of stuff is

[earnest olive]

@tawdry tiger any way you can switch that AIO to a top mount

[little leaf]

Heres another one

[little osprey]

@fast dust www.newegg.com/corsair-rmx-series-rm650x-2018-cp-9020178-na-650w/p/N82E16817139232?&quicklink=true

[earnest olive]

looks a little precarious as is

do you have the clearance to swap that fan and rad

or is mobo heatsink blocking it

[tawdry tiger]

@earnest olive didint think of that tbh! worried the fan will impede the look of the cpu blck..

[earnest olive]

well the way it is right now is probably gonna be bad for your temps at best and dangerous for your cooler at worst

and you're already putting a 120mm rad with a 10700K

definitely worth a try

have you tested temps yet? since you can still get that running on igpu

[tawdry tiger]

idles around 28c atm. but true. so 240mm recommended and throw it in the front?

[earnest olive]

temps are probably gonna be a bit higher once you toss in an rtx 30xx

[tawdry tiger]

no doubt yea

[earnest olive]

since that card is gonna be throwing a whole lot more hot air into the case

120mm might be okay at stock if you can get it top or front mounted

i just upgraded a customer's 7700K rig in the same case using a 240mm AIO and it was already struggling a bit

10700K should be about double the power consumption of 7700K for the same OC

granted that 7700K was at 5GHz

[fast dust]

@fast dust www.newegg.com/corsair-rmx-series-rm650x-2018-cp-9020178-na-650w/p/N82E16817139232?&quicklink=true
@little osprey yep thats it

[tawdry tiger]

120mm fans look dumb af in front tbh. hmm ok, didnt quite think that through totally. thank you. i have mine at 5ghz atm

[earnest olive]

is that rad fan mounted as pull intake or push exhaust

cause it looks like pull intake to me but i can't quite tell

[tawdry tiger]

both you see are exhaust and 2 140mm in front as intake

[earnest olive]

i think having an intake there is gonna really mess with your temps once the gpu is in

ah

yeah it just looks kinda precarious to me because your tank is lower than your pump and the tubing is almost touching the top fan

definitely worth playing around with that rad placement

[tawdry tiger]

if i flip it where it is to have tubs down it blocks the pcie slot, even with an extender cable, hence its positioning. and yes, it almost touches the top fan. i might try and mopunt it on top though like youve said, or just get a 240 for the front eventually.

[earnest olive]

you can see how i mounted it in #build-pics

but the 30xx card is probably gonna be longer than the 1070 in there

if you had tubes down you could have the tubing rest on top of the gpu once installed

or put some kind of insulating pad on top of gpu to rest the tubing on

tubing won't be damaged from contacting backplate

[tawdry tiger]

i was going to vertical mount the gpu, but i didnt think about it kissing the glass..

and tubes down blocks pcie.

[earnest olive]

yeah so i was saying something like this

but if you're looking to vertical mount might be different

[deep skiff]

rip

[still roost]

Atom1002#4721 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[earnest olive]

@little osprey you can't post links until you get a color role from level 3

dm it to me and i'll post it for you

[little osprey]

it let me post it i just deleted it

[tawdry tiger]

yeah i see what youre saying bleach. ill have to mess around a bit with it once i have a card in there

[little osprey]

i was just tryna post my build to see if yall can tell me if its good or bad and what i can change to make it better

[little leaf]

Dm it to me

[earnest olive]

yeah for sure you should experiment with a few different configs

just wanted to point out what i noticed

[tawdry tiger]

oh no thank you, i appreciate it

[earnest olive]

i've been researching AIOs lately for a few customer builds

[little leaf]

I have no money

[tawdry tiger]

i deff do some more research. i just know the rad wont work tubes down where it is without blocking the main pcie. to i might try top, i just feel itll look ugly lol. so far temps are awesome though.

[earnest olive]

yeah but you gotta account for the 300+w heat spitter you're about to put into it

[tawdry tiger]

truth. which in turns means i might have to switch to a 240 front rad yea?

[earnest olive]

being able to run the system off of igpu for now is cool though, i have ryzen so i can't

[tawdry tiger]

yeah it wont be 28 for long lol

[earnest olive]

it would definitely help

[tawdry tiger]

hmm ok

[earnest olive]

240mm aio is generally recommended to run 10700K/10900K with power limits off

or NH-D15

mild overclocking OK on those too

won't be pushing 5.4

[little leaf]

Aio looks better

[still roost]

TeaBagTheDead - puritania#4474 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[earnest olive]

i've also heard enermax AIOs have some issues with corrosion

[trail canyon]

i just built my first pc and it looks fine, everything is lit up, but it won't connect to my monitor :( ive dried the dp and both hdmi connection things and they both arent working does anyone know what i should do

[tawdry tiger]

ive oced it to 5ghz and i havent seen any heat spikes even playing a few *** games off the intergrated. but again like you said that will certainly change. whoops, language, my bad.

[little leaf]

Debug lights?

[earnest olive]

what do you see on the monitor? @trail canyon

does it say no signal

[trail canyon]

yeah

[tawdry tiger]

honeslty ive never used enermax, but i wanted the white.. good to know though ty. ill keep an eye on it

[earnest olive]

have you plugged monitor cable into the video card or the motherboard

you should plug the cable into the video card

[tawdry tiger]

^

[trail canyon]

i tried plugging into motherboard AND video card

both nothing worked

[little leaf]

Debug liggts?

[earnest olive]

yeah do you have any debug lights or post code display

[trail canyon]

i dont have anything coming up, just the no signal

[little leaf]

On the motherboard

[earnest olive]

these little fellas

really helpful for telling you where it's stuck

[gentle scroll]

hello

had a question about if there was a better monitor than the one i have currently for the same price

[little leaf]

#peripherals-and-displays

[earnest olive]

@tawdry tiger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nttKqzQiZEo this refers to their threadripper coolers but i wouldn't be surprised if it happens on their other coolers

[gentle scroll]

yeah but im also supposed to meet a guy here about desktop building too

[tawdry tiger]

ill take a peak in a bit, thank you.

[earnest olive]

glad to help out

[tawdry tiger]

🙂 i appreciate it

[gentle scroll]

frick, why cant i post the link

[wary geode]

Lol your not high level

Send me on dms

[gentle scroll]

kk

[spiral zealot]

the enermax problem was with their v1 coolers

so anything that's listed as a v2 or whatever term they use, has had changes made to the coolant

to prevent that from happening anymore

[earnest olive]

I see

thanks for that input

[spiral zealot]

i think for the liqtech, they're just calling it the Liqtech II

and that's the improved version

[tawdry tiger]

*wipes some sweat but still eyes the cooler

[spiral zealot]

oh wait, maybe not all of them are better, heh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlTlCV1AgoA

but again, it seems to be threadripper primarily?

[tawdry tiger]

*facepalm. ill check it out in a bit. thanks guys. any top tiers in white? lol

[spiral zealot]

corsair is the first one that comes to mind. arctic might have one in white as well

[tawdry tiger]

alright ill have to check again, when i built it to where it is now ener was literally the only white.

[spiral zealot]

corsair definitely has a white one

oh, deepcool has one as well

i think it's the captain EX 240 or something

[tawdry tiger]

yeah im looking at the corsair now, extra 70 bucks though, ouch. though seemingly worth. no issue with the enermax, but time will tell i suppose.

[spiral zealot]

yeah, and honestly the enermax non-threadripper ones might be fine

all of the issues ive heard have been TR-specific

which makes me wonder if they changed their coolant formula for that one in particular

[tawdry tiger]

right, hm.

[gentle scroll]

alright im back, i got my monitor issue sorted (guess i got the right one). so now i have some questions about building. anyone available?

[desert gulch]

Yes

What's your question?

[gentle scroll]

so im trying to build something within the time constraint of one month. my budget is about 12-1300 dollars. and i already have a mouse and keyboard.

and a monitor

[desert gulch]

ok

at 1200 could do r5 3600 and a 2070s

would wait if possible tho

[gentle scroll]

for what?

[little osprey]

3000 series im guessing

[desert gulch]

rtx 3000

[gentle scroll]

when that supposed to come out?

[desert gulch]

announed the 31st

[little osprey]

reveal is sept 1 and theyll announce release date then

[desert gulch]

they will announce it the 31st is what i meant

[spiral zealot]

shipping date is unknown right now though, but yeah, announcement early next week

[gentle scroll]

to clarify the only reason im putting a time restraint on myself is because im deploying in the next 2 months ish so if i dont have one ill have to wait

[merry edge]

Do motherboards come with instructions on what to install first to last?

[gentle scroll]

Ive got no problem with going for the lower version though if it means i can just upgrade later

[earnest olive]

yes

[desert gulch]

install cpu first

or nvme if you have one

[earnest olive]

imo install ram first

due to cooler clearance

for stock cooler it won't be an issue

[little osprey]

ive seen builders do cpu. ram. ssd

[earnest olive]

but for aftermarket it can

[desert gulch]

yea

i do cpu cooler b4 ram

since its easier to screw in without ram

but only if i know itll clear the ram

[earnest olive]

it depends on the cooler

[desert gulch]

yeah

i used stock so it wasnt a problem

[earnest olive]

i'm at 12 builds now and cooler clearance has only been a consideration on 1 of them tbh

[desert gulch]

yeah

[earnest olive]

m.2 might also be easier to put in before aftermarket cooler, but stock cooler won't affect it

[little osprey]

im still debating wether to build my pc with intel or ryzen.

[earnest olive]

depends

[desert gulch]

Budget?

[little osprey]

1500

[earnest olive]

are you gaming only? what gpu do you have?

[little osprey]

thinking 2070super

[earnest olive]

you need to have at least a 2080 super for a 10600K to be worth it

[desert gulch]

can do a 2070s build for 1200 tbh

with a r5 3600

if all youre gonna do is game

[earnest olive]

but really just wait for ampere

[little osprey]

yeah pretty much but if i can get 2080 within my budget ill go for that

[desert gulch]

dont get 2080

over 2070s

its not worth the money

for the performane you get

[little osprey]

super?

[desert gulch]

if you can get 2080 super get it

but dont buy plain 2080

[vital warren]

2080s build with ryzen 5 will be around 1300 ish

[little osprey]

yeah thats what i meant

[desert gulch]

but just wait for 3000 series

tbh

[vital warren]

^

[little osprey]

yeah i am

this will be my first build too so might as well wait for it

[gentle scroll]

so what all should be on my shopping list as for whats require to even build a pc

like i said im a litttle babby at this

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L68tjp quick example of the "minimum" build where intel beats ryzen imo

didnt put a lot of time into that list so don't take it as gospel lol

[little osprey]

i5 is best you can do? i had a i7 10700 with same motherboard and ram but with a 2070 super and corsair rmx 750 full modular

idk which cpu is better

[gentle scroll]

ah so cpu/cooler/motherboard/ram/memory/storage/videocard/case/powersupply is that right?

[little osprey]

also air cooled. i dont plan to overclock

yeah pretty much it

[foggy hazel]

@gentle scroll ram and memory is the same thing

[earnest olive]

i mean 10th gen intel running at stock with power limits off can make a 240mm aio sweat already

[gentle scroll]

sorry, i was just looking at the link and got storage and memory mixed

[foggy hazel]

nothing to be sorry about, it was more so you didnt double up on things :)

[earnest olive]

we're all here to help or learn so there's no need to apologize

we were all beginners once

[gentle scroll]

still what should i all go for since theres so much stuff to choose from. like i said earlier my budget is 12-1300

that way i have a half decent shopping list if i at lest have the names

i have word pad open so im ready to get learnt

[earnest olive]

are you looking for any aesthetic options or just maximum spending on raw performance?

[gentle scroll]

performance all the way

[earnest olive]

and how about noise? does fan noise bother you

[gentle scroll]

kinda yeah, but im not sure how well my headphones will block it out

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cFZbq3

rate?

im bad at builds

[earnest olive]

don't go intel if you're only getting a 2070S

and that cooler is going to struggle really hard with a 10700K

CL18 RAM is not good

meshify C with only stock fans suboptimal

[vital warren]

id switch case to the td500 mesh or maybe a phanteks case

[little osprey]

damn ok well lemme change some stuff

[earnest olive]

meshify c is a great case but you gotta add fans to it

[vital warren]

yeah

if you do want a little rgb td500 mesh comes with 3 intake rgb fans

[little osprey]

What about p500a stock is that ok

[earnest olive]

i gotta go out for a few mins

will be back to help later

[gentle scroll]

kk

so what im kinda hearing is go ryzen for the cpu? not sure

[little osprey]

cpu cooler recommendation for the i7 10700k

Dark rock pro 4

[spiral zealot]

@gentle scroll yeah at a 1200-1300 budget, ryzen is probably the way to go. in terms of it being a performance focused build, is it just straight gaming? or will there be any streaming happening as well?

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NXfT8M

changed a couple things

[gentle scroll]

gaming

[vital warren]

that 2060s is way too much

[little osprey]

oh wat i thought it was a 2080s lol

[spiral zealot]

@gentle scroll do you need compact form factor, you said you're getting deployed, so i imagine easy to transport is probably important to some degree

if you're taking it with you

[gentle scroll]

no, my deployments are of the naval variety. so the pc stays home

[spiral zealot]

aha ok

[gentle scroll]

one thing though

[spiral zealot]

just asking because smaller form factor sometimes comes with extra cost

[gentle scroll]

actually nvm

all good

was checking my desk

[little leaf]

@little osprey as I said

Wait

You have a under 2k budgrt

You can get a 3080 at launch

So just

Fking wait

[little osprey]

@little leaf ik just looking for some potential builds

[stoic island]

Lol

Basically don't buy any of the builds until we can slap in 3000 series GPUs

[cursive fiber]

quick question, I bought some case fans from my friend and they are Aigo rgb fans and to control them you have to use a remote, but it isn't working so is there a way I can troubleshoot it or is their a way I can reset the remote? Any help is appreciated.

[little leaf]

There might be a tap to pull out

To let it work

[cursive fiber]

It was working before he gave them to me

So I would think that the tab would be gone

It's kinda of a cheap brand so the remote might be dead but is there a way I could reconnect the remote to the hub through like a button maybe?

[spiral zealot]

@gentle scroll something like this, since you aren't streaming, you can do with a 5700XT and ignore all the nvidia 3000 series stuff that everyone else is talking about - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fyqZtp - and maybe throw in a couple extra case fans for the front panel of the case

[stoic island]

Some changes to change it up again
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VBhz27

@little osprey

[stoic island]

@spiral zealot wdym? 3060 is gonna be in that price range, it might beat 5700xt, we should still sit and wait

I'm talking raw perf wise

Ignoring nvenc rtx

[spiral zealot]

he is deploying soon so if he doesn't build it soon, he has to wait until he comes back

[stoic island]

3 days

For Nvidia announcement

[spiral zealot]

that's the announcement, we have no idea when cards will ship

[little osprey]

^

[little leaf]

If he waits 3days

[stoic island]

That's why we should wait and see, doesn't hurt to see before you buy

[little leaf]

He will have the choice

It cant hurt to WAIT

[spiral zealot]

ok fine, whatever

[stoic island]

If you can wait, you should wait

No one wants to buy a GPU, to find out it's outdated 2 days afterwards

[gentle scroll]

okay, so then as far as installation of all the things go. got any links to things i can look at?

yeah im fine with updating later

anything thats outdated, ill just sell if i can

[spiral zealot]

there are lots of how to build videos on youtube, anything from like linus tech tips or bitwit will help

but if you want to wait to see what nvidia has to offer, you can still use the parts list i sent, just wait on the gpu, everything else will still be relevant

[gentle scroll]

quick question tho, when you say gpu, does gpu=cpu? idk

[earnest olive]

back if anyone needs help but it looks like some people have come in

[spiral zealot]

gpu = video card

[gentle scroll]

ah, i see

[earnest olive]

gpu = graphical processing unit, it's part of the video card, but most people use video card and gpu interchangeably

[little leaf]

If u buy then it becomes out dated you lose money right at purchase lmao

[deep skiff]

yeah its just easier to say gpu

[earnest olive]

gpu shorter

[gentle scroll]

so is the nvidia the one they were talking about that gets announced on the 30th or something else entirely

[spiral zealot]

yeah, nvidia has a new line of video cards being announced on monday/tuesday

[gentle scroll]

how long until they get released after announcement?

[spiral zealot]

and performance figures are still up in the air as how it compares to their current cards, and the competition that AMD currently sells

no clue

[earnest olive]

when you see something like "EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 Super 8GB KO GAMING", "GeForce RTX 2070 Super 8GB" is the GPU+VRAM and "EVGA _____ KO GAMING" is the video card portion

[spiral zealot]

for the 2000 series of cards, they shipped a month after announcement

announced 8/20/18, shipped 9/20/18

[earnest olive]

i've heard that for 3000, FE should be available on 9/21 and AIB models 9/28

[gentle scroll]

i still have to wonder about pricing for it though

[earnest olive]

water blocks will be available around the same time as FE

[little osprey]

If its like that for the 3000 series im going to wait either way. I was planning to buy parts as i can but it seems its better to buy all of them at the same time

[spiral zealot]

there are rumors for pricing, starting at $400 for the lowest end card, and $1400 for the highest, but we also don't know which cards will be available in the initial announcement

the $400 card might not come out until later

[earnest olive]

pricing rumors are pretty much no substance

nvidia determines pricing last

[gentle scroll]

ah

[spiral zealot]

yeah, everything is still rumor

[foggy hazel]

Jensen is notorious for holding the price until the last second

Jensen = CEO of nvidia

[earnest olive]

anyways, regardless of the price, you'll still get more performance for your money with 3000 than 2000

and of course higher resell value

[gentle scroll]

wait so theres different grades for each gen too? how do you know the right one to get then?

[earnest olive]

your budget

lol

[spiral zealot]

i was recommending 5700XT for @gentle scroll because he's deploying soon, and if 3000 doesn't ship in time, he's hosed

and he has to wait until he gets back

[foggy hazel]

budget and reviews @gentle scroll

[earnest olive]

could do a build with a temporary gpu like me

i'm chillin on a RX 570

[spiral zealot]

and all he's after is straight gaming performance with a 1200-1300 budget, so i recommended 3600 and 5700XT

but then everyone screamed about waiting for 3000 series

so w/e

[foggy hazel]

sounds solid enough @spiral zealot

[gentle scroll]

i think ill try that then

[earnest olive]

5700XT can be had in a build much lower than 1200-1300 tbh

[spiral zealot]

i put together an $1100 parts list

[foggy hazel]

also re: everyone screamed about 3000: Welcome to the server, people dont read :)

[gentle scroll]

my only thing is what to do with the leftover i guess

full send

[spiral zealot]

buy a nice keyboard/mouse or something

nice mechanical keyboard

good headset if you don't have one yet

[foggy hazel]

a good set of headphones is a good investment too

[earnest olive]

invest in a nice monitor

yeah i bought a $120 pair of sennheisers 4 years still going strong

[spiral zealot]

yeah, any leftover is definitely worth putting into peripherals

[gentle scroll]

ok, well i already have a keyboard/mouse care to do a review real quick?

that and i have a half decent monitor i guess

stand by for details

actually, how long until i can post links so that i dont get my pp slapped

[foggy hazel]

you can post now

[spiral zealot]

you're good now, that green = level 3

[gentle scroll]

okeydoke

brb grabbing links then

having some trouble finding a link for the keyboard

but ill go with the one i think it is

https://www.newegg.com/p/1B4-00PP-00073

only thing is it says on the back that its the KB DS4200 GAMING Keyboard

i got it for cheap as a deal on newegg when i got my laptop

[foggy hazel]

its just a standard membrane keyboard

[earnest olive]

if you're happy with it, you don't need a new one

[foggy hazel]

IF you like using it, keep it

it has the advantage of not making a lot of noise

[gentle scroll]

yeah, i just want to know if theres anything competitively better so i can set my sights for later

[foggy hazel]

a mechanical keyboard technically

but it ultimately comes down to preference

[gentle scroll]

oh and the mouse: https://www.newegg.com/razer-rz01-02560100-r3u1-esports-gaming-mouse/p/0TP-0007-001J9

[foggy hazel]

just like the keyboard. IF you like it, keep it

peripherals are talked about a lot, but ultimately, they are a personal choice. Beucase YOU are the one that has to use them every day

[gentle scroll]

alright then last question with the setup that mentioned earlier [ https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fyqZtp ] is the monitor im using good enough or should i go for better: https://www.asus.com/us/Monitors/MG248QR/?SearchKey=mg248qr/

[foggy hazel]

that is better than a lot of people here have

so, nothing wrong with that monitor

[spiral zealot]

way better than my monitors lol

[gentle scroll]

send it then. looks like i have a lot of work to do.

[foggy hazel]

this gets us to the headset/headphones+mic

[gentle scroll]

oh yeah

1sec

frick i have to dig up the box real qick since it doesnt say i think

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16800979069

not sure if link is working i kept getting an error

but, its the MSI Gaming Headset S BOX

[foggy hazel]

their site seems to be having trouble right now

[gentle scroll]

ok ill try to find a diff link

[foggy hazel]

no need

[earnest olive]

who ddos newegg 😦

i wanna track my orders lol

[foggy hazel]

its a OEM headset, the chance of it actually sounding decent is slim to none

[earnest olive]

sennheiser

[fleet pagoda]

Motherboard:ASUS Prime Z390-A, Intel Z390 Chipset, LGA 1151, HDMI, ATX Motherboard

Motherboard:No Internal USB Hub

Processor:INTEL Core™ i5-9400F 6-Core 2.9 - 4.1GHz Turbo, LGA 1151, 65W TDP, Retail Processor

Processor:No CPU Overclocking

Video Card:EVGA GeForce® GTX 1650 SUPER™ SC ULTRA GAMING, 1530 - 1755MHz, 4GB GDDR6, Graphics Card [VR-Ready]

Is this good

[earnest olive]

sounds like a prebuilt

what's the price?

[fleet pagoda]

1.2

[earnest olive]

jesus

that as a custom build would be maybe $650-700

[fleet pagoda]

Wth☠☠

[foggy hazel]

IF that is a pre-built: what are the rest of the specs

is there a monitor included etc etc?

[earnest olive]

even if it includes monitor/kb/m, those specs for 1.2k

no way

[fleet pagoda]

It comes w nothing

[foggy hazel]

@gentle scroll as for headset, just about anything from one of the bigger brands will be an upgrade.

[earnest olive]

yikes

[gentle scroll]

ill be back in a bit. but when i do should i come back here for headset questions like specific brands or is there another chat for that

[foggy hazel]

@fleet pagoda which company has the stones to charge that much for "that"?

[earnest olive]

most of them probably

[fleet pagoda]

Its the Intel Z390 2-way GPU Tower Gaming Desktop

[foggy hazel]

#peripherals-and-displays is where we normally ramble about that @gentle scroll

[spiral zealot]

@fleet pagoda is it an amazon listing?

[fleet pagoda]

No

[foggy hazel]

you should be able to see a fair deal about it IF you scroll back a bit :)

[fleet pagoda]

Its on some website ava direct

[spiral zealot]

ok, just making sure. amazon is full of those kinds of 'deals'

[gentle scroll]

okey doke thanks for all the help byebye

[foggy hazel]

enjoy, and best of luck :)

[earnest olive]

assuming prebuilt uses crap ssd and psu like every other prebuilt

[gentle scroll]

you too. looks like youll need it

[foggy hazel]

https://www.avadirect.com/Intel-9th-Gen-Coffee-Lake-R-Core-i5-i7-i9-Z390-Chipset-2-way-SLI-CrossFireX-Custom-Gaming-PC/Configure/12383260 <- that the one @fleet pagoda ?

[fleet pagoda]

Yes

[earnest olive]

completely garbage

[fleet pagoda]

Tbh i only wanted it bc it looks cool

What should i look for i have a budget of like 1k

[earnest olive]

prebuilts are basically never good value

[fleet pagoda]

I wanna play fortnite at 200+ fps and record

Ik nothing abt specs n stuff so ye

[earnest olive]

you looking for a pc ASAP or willing to wait like a month for next gen parts

[fleet pagoda]

I can wait ye

[earnest olive]

come back in like a month then

[fleet pagoda]

Kk

[analog hearth]

Several questions:

1. Does a CPU need to be a low-enough temperature for a PC to sleep?
2. I’ve swapped my RX 5700 for a 2080 Super sort of recently and now my CPU’s temps suddenly jump mega high. Any explanation for this? I’ve read that GPU swapping can result in higher temps due to higher voltages

[errant berry]

whats a good program to monitor my cpu temp with an overlay

if one exists

[analog hearth]

HW Monitor

[errant berry]

gotcha

thanks

[spiral zealot]

you can actually use msi afterburner with rivatuner stats to monitor CPU temp

[analog hearth]

that too

[spiral zealot]

that's what i use to monitor gpu/cpu temps and usage

if i need an overlay while i'm in a game or whatever

if i'm doing stuff on the desktop like cinebench or whatever, i use hwinfo64

[errant berry]

oh i already got afterburner

[analog hearth]

just use afterburner

[errant berry]

okie

do i need a separate program for the overlay

[spiral zealot]

if you installed rivatuner along with it at the same time, you can go into the settings menu, and then to on-screen monitoring

[errant berry]

or is it a setting

idk if i did

[spiral zealot]

and configure what you want to display in the OSD

it's packaged with afterburner

so you probably did?

[errant berry]

oh then i probably did

[little osprey]

weggbot on a rampage

[olive kraken]

Does anyone know where I can get sleeved cables for Small form factor builds? More specifically an M-atx build

I feel like regular cables might be too long but if there is no shorter way I'll just deal with it

[spiral zealot]

cablemod will let you create custom length cables, but they won't be cheap

https://store.cablemod.com/configurator

[hoary flower]

I need help with my first build. I’m looking at a Ryzen 5 3600 for my cpu, I have other parts picked out but still stumped on my motherboard

I’m more concerned about WiFi and Bluetooth

So I don’t know if I should get one with it built in or buy an adapter

[errant berry]

doesnt the x570 come with bluetooth

and wifi

[hoary flower]

Trying to make the process as simple as possible 😭

[errant berry]

lemme find one for you tho

[hoary flower]

Honestly I’m new to the building pc so it could be possible 🥴

[lyric thistle]

There's X570s with and without WiFi

[errant berry]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FJXjfH

this one has wifi

i thought i remember seeing one

idk if this one has bluetooth tho

[olive kraken]

@spiral zealot thank u

[lyric thistle]

The WiFi boards tend to be more expensive, but you could probably get an adapter for a non WiFi board and spend about the same

[errant berry]

yea

would the speed be consistent tho?

[lyric thistle]

Should have Bluetooth

[errant berry]

since it isnt built in, i would assume it would be slower

we typing paragraphs now

[sacred path]

I have a budget of around $700-$800 most likely $700. I have 2 choices I build a gaming pc or get a gaming laptop I don’t have much space for a full setup in my room so gaming laptop seems better and I need a webcam for school but I want power and a 144hz with 10m or lower but I can’t find anything can you guys help should I wait till the rtx 3000 series comes out and see if prices go down.

[olive kraken]

Wifi isn't ever going to be constant

[errant berry]

gotcha

[olive kraken]

That's why its wifi

[errant berry]

i just didnt know if it would be better built in or not

[hoary flower]

I was going to do
Ryzen 5 3600
( possibly) msi mag b550 tomahawk
Gigabyte Radeon rx580
Evga 500
WD blue 500gb

[errant berry]

whats your budget tho

[hoary flower]

Trying to stay budget friendly of like 700-750

[errant berry]

ok

hold up

[hoary flower]

But that’s including windows too

Cause that’s already $100

[spiral zealot]

you can get a windows key on ebay for $5

so don't pay full price

[hoary flower]

Where ?? Link that

[sacred path]

True but you also need a flash drive to install it too the pc

[spiral zealot]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WINDOWS-10-PRO-PROFESSIONAL-32-64-BIT-ACTIVATION-KEY-INSTANT-DELIVERY/402392415032?epid=10024215405&hash=item5db074fb38:g:w34AAOSwPR5fSQSi - $8.95

they're legit, just resold bulk keys

[hoary flower]

That’s fine I can buy a flash drive or I have plenty but you’ve used it before and no issues ?

[sacred path]

Many people buy the keys for cheap should work great

[errant berry]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fG2yJb

[spiral zealot]

i haven't bought from ebay myself, but plenty of folks here have

[errant berry]

yea just buy windows off of ebay

[spiral zealot]

i bought mine from gvgmall and it was like $15 or something

[errant berry]

but that is what id do for a 700 build

[spiral zealot]

they're usually just reselling OEM/bulk keys

[errant berry]

if any of yall see anything wrong correct me please

[olive kraken]

If you DIY gaming pc is cheaper, but laptop is portable

[errant berry]

true

[olive kraken]

Unless u go small form factor but it is still a pain

[errant berry]

the 700 laptops arent gonna be good tho

at least from what ive seen

[olive kraken]

Also, new GPUs will have no problem running at 144hz

[errant berry]

mhm

[olive kraken]

I'd say wait, also YES 700 gaming laptop not going to be great

[errant berry]

lol

[hoary flower]

Well is there anything I should change for my build?

[spiral zealot]

i put this list together for someone on a $700 budget - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xfNbq3 - goes down to the r3 3100, but it's still a solid CPU and cheaper than the 3600 by like $80 right now

and lets you fit a 1660S in

[errant berry]

ah

[sacred path]

Yeah but my biggest problem is buy the accessories I would have to buy over $300+ that’s why it’s hard I could buy a laptop that can get 144hz no problem then buy a 144hz monitor

[errant berry]

i was wondering why you wouldnt do a r5 2600

bc its like 140 for it

[spiral zealot]

the 3600 comes up on pcpp for 200 right now

which is too much

[errant berry]

but for the 1660s then yea

facts

[spiral zealot]

and the 3100 is still a solid 4c/8t

[errant berry]

wish it was still 150

that was when it was a steal

[sacred path]

Yeah the ryzen 3 3100 is as good as the ryzen 5 3600 when it comes to gaming

[errant berry]

dang really

[spiral zealot]

i would recommend the 3300x but that one is impossible to find anywhere

[errant berry]

i never looked at it

[spiral zealot]

so the 3100 is my budget alternative

[hoary flower]

Make sense

[errant berry]

whats the base clock speed tho

[spiral zealot]

3.6 on the 3100

[errant berry]

oh that isnt bad at all

[spiral zealot]

boosts to 3.9

[errant berry]

actually pretty good for 120

[olive kraken]

the extra cores help but for budget 3100 is best

[spiral zealot]

will be totally fine w/stock cooler

[errant berry]

yea

[spiral zealot]

and you could probably shave a little off if you dropped to 3200mhz ram

[errant berry]

true

3200 isnt bad either

[spiral zealot]

i think you can get the 3200mhz kit for $57?

[errant berry]

whats the brand

bc i dont think ive seen that

[spiral zealot]

it's the same gskill ripjaws

2x8

[errant berry]

oh

dang ive never seen that

[spiral zealot]

yeah - https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820231941

[errant berry]

id put that on for budget builds instead but i just see the 3600 kit

[spiral zealot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NqWhWb boom

$695

if you have the budget to go to $750 you can upgrade the SSD

and get an nvme drive w/dram

[errant berry]

beautiful

[spiral zealot]

but this was for someone who had a hard $700 budget, so i went for the 2.5" w/dram instead

[modest kindle]

The actor of black pather just died

[errant berry]

ya

[modest kindle]

from cancer

[errant berry]

it is sad indeed

idk if that pertains to a build

but sure

i see that it says the bios would sometimes need to be updated for that board, is that true @spiral zealot

[spiral zealot]

that was true when ryzen 3000 first came out

but most boards will come from the factory with the right bios now

[errant berry]

gotcha

i always saw that so i just stayed away from those boards

[spiral zealot]

yeah it's a fair warning to post there, but it's mostly irrelevant now

unless you happen to get a piece of old stock that's been lying around for a while

[errant berry]

yea

i would've gotten a cheaper board if i had known that

[jagged ember]

If that happens you could just get a boot kit

[errant berry]

good point

[spiral zealot]

yeah, AMD will send you a loaner CPU so you can boot and flash the bios

[jagged ember]

However unlikely that would occur

[errant berry]

yea

[jagged ember]

Good to know, though

[errant berry]

indeed

[jagged ember]

Only works if you're in NA?

Or is it global?

[errant berry]

idk

i never knew amd did that so

[jagged ember]

Lol I never looked into it

[errant berry]

me neither

[jagged ember]

Probably should but

Meh

[errant berry]

lol

[spiral zealot]

not sure actually

i assume it'd be global

[errant berry]

just request a better cpu than the one you have and return the worse one

easy upgrade

[spiral zealot]

lol they send you like an athlon 3000g

[errant berry]

ohhhhh nvm

[spiral zealot]

just enough to boot and flash the bios

[errant berry]

ya i dont want that lol

[spiral zealot]

oh wait, not even that

[errant berry]

what is a tr 1920x

[spiral zealot]

an athlon 200ge

[errant berry]

ive never even heard of that

[spiral zealot]

threadripper 1920x

[errant berry]

that too

ohhh

dang

you do 3d modeling or stuff like that?

[spiral zealot]

i started doing a lot of virtualization stuff for work

[errant berry]

ah

[spiral zealot]

so i'm doing a lot of learning and experimenting on my personal machine

[sacred path]

Have you guys seen the Acer Nitro XV240Y it’s really good for its price can’t find it any where other than Newegg and no you tubers made reviews I think it’s brand new

[spiral zealot]

so i just switched over

[errant berry]

how many cores does that one have

[spiral zealot]

12c/24t

[errant berry]

thats really good

its always interesting to see a thread ripper in action

[spiral zealot]

it was a bit of a sidegrade, i used to have an r5 2600, so i gained cores/threads, but went from zen+ to zen 1

but it was a cheap switch

[errant berry]

ye

i got the 2600 rn

[spiral zealot]

i just needed the cpu/mb, and i picked up a new set of ram to go quad channel

[errant berry]

its pretty good

[little osprey]

I want to steal that BB8

[granite gust]

Which is the better build? 2003 was the last time I build my own PC... So I'm out of the loop, would love advice

First Build TOTAL : $1,786

AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 8-Core, 16-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor with Wraith Prism LED Cooler AM4 $ $339

GIGABYTE X570 AORUS Elite Wifi (AMD Ryzen 3000/X570/ATX/PCIe4.0/DDR4/Intel Dual Band 802.11AC WIFI/Front USB Type-C/RGB Fusion 2.0/M.2 Thermal Guard/Gaming Motherboard) AM4 $ $209

MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 2070 8GB GDRR6 256-Bit HDMI/DP DirectX 12 VR Ready Ray Tracing Turing Architecture HDCP Graphics Card (RTX 2070 Ventus GP) $ $443

G.SKILL Trident Z Neo (for AMD Ryzen) Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin RGB DDR4 SDRAM Desktop Memory F4-3600C18D-32GTZN $ $149

Western Digital WD_Black SN750 500GB NVMe Internal Gaming SSD - Gen3 PCIe, M.2 2280, 3D NAND - WDS500G3X0C $ $70

Power Supply 750W Fully Modular 80+ Gold Certified with Addressable RGB Light - Vairous Color Mode, GAMEMAX RGB750-Rainbow $ $119

NZXT H510 Elite - CA-H510E-B1 - Premium Mid-Tower ATX Case PC Gaming Case - Dual-Tempered Glass Panel - Front I/O USB Type-C Port - Vertical GPU Mount - Integrated RGB Lighting - Black $ $141

Corsair LL Series, LL120 RGB, 120mm RGB LED Fan, Triple Pack with Lighting Node PRO- White, Lighting Node PRO Included, LL120 RGB White $ $147

Corsair Hydro Series, H100i RGB Platinum SE, 240mm Radiator, Dual LL120 RGB PWM Fans $ $169

Second Build TOTAL : $1,683

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core, 16-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor with Wraith Prism LED Cooler AM4 $ $289

ASRock B450M Steel Legend Socket AM4/ AMD Promontory B450/ DDR4/ Quad CrossFireX/ SATA3&USB3.1/ M.2/ A&GbE/MicroATX Motherboard $ $117

XFX RX 5600 XT THICC II PRO -14GBPS 6GB GDDR6 BOOST UP TO 1620MHz 3xDP HDMI Graphics Card RX-56XT6DF46 $ $270

XFX RX 5600 XT THICC II PRO -14GBPS 6GB GDDR6 BOOST UP TO 1620MHz 3xDP HDMI Graphics Card RX-56XT6DF46 $ $270

OLOy DDR4 RAM 32GB (4x8GB) Warhawk Rainbow Light RGB (Non-SYNC) 3600 MHz CL18 1.35V 288-Pin Desktop Gaming UDIMM (MD4U0836180BKKQA) $ $129

Seagate BarraCuda 2TB Internal Hard Drive HDD – 3.5 Inch SATA 6Gb/s 7200 RPM 256MB Cache 3.5-Inch – Frustration Free Packaging (ST2000DM008) $ $54

Gigabyte AORUS RGB NVMe M.2 512GB High Performance Gaming, Integrated Heatsink, Toshiba 3D NAND, DDR Cache Buffer, 5 Year Warranty SSD GP-ASM2NE2512GTTDR $ $119

GAMEMAX Power Supply 850W Fully Modular 80+ Gold Certified with Addressable RGB Light - Vairous Color Mode, RGB-850 $ $139

Thermaltake Core P3 ATX Tempered Glass Gaming Computer Case Chassis, Open Frame Panoramic Viewing, Black Edition, CA-1G4-00M1WN-06 $ $139

Thermaltake Pure 14 ARGB 5V Motherboard Sync/Analog Controller TT Premium Edition 16.8 Million Colors 9 Addressable LEDs 140mm Hydraulic Bearing PWM Case/Radiator Fan, 3 Pack CL-F080-PL14SW-A $ $58

Enermax Liqmax III 360 - Triple 120mm Fan aRGB {5v 3-Pin} - Dual Chamber AIO CPU Liquid Cooler - Intel/AMD AM4 Support - 300W+ TDP Cooling; 5v 3-Pin ARGB; ELC-LMT360-ARGB $ $99

[lyric thistle]

😳

[little osprey]

Didn't enermax aios have problems?

[granite gust]

Why the long face, @lyric thistle

@little osprey didn't know this, ty

[little osprey]

Don't take my word for it tho I just saw a couple gamer Nexus videos maybe he's referring to a different model

[granite gust]

lol

[plush wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8rPCjp is this good now?

[analog hearth]

@plush wigeon go with Ryzen and get a better PSU

[plush wigeon]

$1000 is the max I'll go @analog hearth

[analog hearth]

Yeah, so go Ryzen

Originally, my PC costed me $1100 with a 3600 and 5700. But prices have gone down. It’s definitely doable

[plush wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MQxwNq here's the updated list

[small heron]

Prbly gonna break 1k after tax

[errant berry]

ya thats what happened to me

there is a setting to where you can set sales tax on pcpartpicker

you just have to make an account

[tiny forge]

No lol, I'm just gonna let it be, my head is too messed up right now.

Cable management is stressful

[solemn valley]

Lol i feel u man

You'll get it eventually

[tiny forge]

Yeah

[solemn valley]

What are ur specs? Seems like u got the same cooler and ram as me

[foggy hazel]

no worries @solemn valley :)

[tiny forge]

GPU : 2060 Super | CPU : i9-9900k | PSU : Corsair RMx 1000 W 80+ Gold | LCooler : Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler

I should've gotten a 2080 Super, only $200 price gap

[foggy hazel]

@solemn valley btw, if you want to do a bit of custom DIY on that case. A filter on the "grate holes" in the back helps a fair deal on dust buildup

[solemn valley]

Ooohh didn't even think of that!

Thats a good idea

[foggy hazel]

remember the ones at the top back fan too

[solemn valley]

@tiny forge Thats dope man, I was thinking about getting an i9 but I ended up getting the i7 9800. Needless to say I feel the same way as you wjth the 2080 super card

Even if the fan blows air out? Would that be okay?

[foggy hazel]

the holes "around" the fan

[solemn valley]

Ohhh ok cool

[foggy hazel]

see the exposed ones above the fan itself :)

[solemn valley]

Sounds good

What kind of filter do u reccomend?

[foggy hazel]

whatever you can get your hands on really, which are also easy to clean for you

i have previously taken apart old case filters and rigged them with small magnets for stuff like that

sadly, i cannot show you, because i dont have a case with a solution like that in the apartment

[solemn valley]

I was thinking something with mesh. I have this on the top of my case. Ill attach in build pics real quick

[tiny forge]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07M7BWTFM/ref=asc_df_B07M7BWTFM/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312824707815&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17936888616001625300&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9004882&hvtargid=pla-660672305476&psc=1

try that?

actually

Might be a bit small, I'm not sure

[foggy hazel]

re: picture: aye, that could work

[solemn valley]

Oooo

[foggy hazel]

and yes Wizard, that could also work

[solemn valley]

Yeah that looks good, I could prob rig something together

[foggy hazel]

if you have a recycling station near you, it should be possible to scavenge a old case filter

that you can cut up

[solemn valley]

I can def look into that

Thanks for the advice!

[foggy hazel]

or look at the local used market, might be someone that has some spare you can get for free/shipping

and you are very welcome :)

[signal fractal]

Hey question, anyone familiar with the Phanteks p400a case, putting together a new build and trying to figure out if I’ll be able to fit a gpu vertical mount into the case or if one would even work with it?

[tiny forge]

I believe it is

https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-p400a-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854086?item=N82E16811854086&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-cases+(computer+cases+-+atx+form)-_-N82E16811854086&gclid=Cj0KCQjw-af6BRC5ARIsAALPIlX-14Li2yAYGP0JOdYC0DfUA0b_bDsFoHHMQHeZN2_ou4yz5E7lpBgaAvdfEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds\

this one, correct?

It states that it is an optional Upgrade

[foggy hazel]

@signal fractal

from this link

http://www.phanteks.com/Eclipse-P400A.html

[latent storm]

https://ebay.to/3gFBaAT

thoughts?

[signal fractal]

Thanks @foggy hazel !!

[solemn valley]

Looks good @latent storm

I'm always careful buying things on ebay though. Depending on the sellers rep

[latent storm]

from what i can see he has a 5* rating from 5 different people

[solemn valley]

Although

[foggy hazel]

@latent storm you seeing it at 520 right?

[latent storm]

i am

[solemn valley]

I did find same card brand new for cheaper

[latent storm]

...

[solemn valley]

Best buy

[foggy hazel]

a new card. is cheaper and has full warranty

@solemn valley you cannot post links until you are lvl 3 (your nick turns green) (its our anti spam bot in action)

[solemn valley]

I just got the message haha

To my dm

[latent storm]

thats awkward i was on the uk pcpp site and it said like 550 pounds or something

[foggy hazel]

:)

@latent storm you are in the UK?

[latent storm]

im not

i clicked on a uk pcpp link from another server and it kept me on the uk site

[foggy hazel]

ah

yes, do keep track of that :)

because that would be in pounds

[latent storm]

should i upgrade my monitor or gpu first

yeah thats a problem

[solemn valley]

What kind of monitor and gpu u got now?

[foggy hazel]

@latent storm a general piece of advice. IF a card is being sold above MSRP, something is weird.

this is a old one, from before the 2060 got its msrp adjusted to 300

[latent storm]

What kind of monitor and gpu u got now?
@solemn valley i have just an old 1080p 60hz monitor that i bought off my friend and i have a 1050ti

@latent storm a general piece of advice. IF a card is being sold above MSRP, something is weird.
@foggy hazel yeah i figured, i didnt think to look at new pricing and thought that was a good dealk

[solemn valley]

I'd say upgrade gpu. Going from 1050ti to 2070 super is a huge gain

Games will run so much better

[foggy hazel]

hey, at least you didnt already buy it @latent storm :)

[latent storm]

right that would've been a mistake lol

[vocal hare]

Rm850x is kinda cheap rn you guys think I should go for it?

I'm thinking of building something with a 3070 and the new ryzen 5 when it comes out

[hollow grove]

that's way overkill

lol

the psu

[hearty mist]

Yeah

[solemn valley]

If u buy a 3070 ull be good for like 10 15 years lol

[silk estuary]

I don't like having a 650

I prefer having that huge gap from a 750

[foggy hazel]

that is a case of "need VS want"

[plush wigeon]

@small heron no sales tax here for me

[errant berry]

wow really

then you just need to take into account shipping

[proud pivot]

I'm looking for advice on building a gaming computer as part of a two computer setup. Would this be a good place to use?

[deep skiff]

sure

[errant berry]

what is a two computer setup tho, like 2 computers working in unison?

bc ive never heard of that

or like a sli/crossfire thing

[proud pivot]

Friend are getting back into PC gaming and I'm interested in joining them. Currently I have a Imac 2017 and use a benq SW271 as an additional monitor. My current plan is to build a sub $1,500 pc as a dedicated gaming rig and switch the inputs on the Benq when I want to play. I use the Imac for work and photo editing, and I'd like to continue to do that. I'd love some feedback on how to efficiently have 2 computers working in the same space. Is it possible to have a keyboard/mouse that works with both simultaneously? Is there any other synergies that I'm not aware of? Has anyone done something similar?

[lyric thistle]

one computer plays games, the other streams it with capture card

[errant berry]

gotcha

[lyric thistle]

that's one way of using two computers

[proud pivot]

@errant berry No. I'm not even sure that's possible, especially considering they would be different OS.

[errant berry]

yea i see what you mean now

[proud pivot]

I'm not looking for a dedicated streaming rig either.

[errant berry]

since you said how you were thinking of doing it

so how much for the gaming pc?

[ripe quest]

@proud pivot do you need peripherals included in the 1500 dollar budget?

[errant berry]

Gabe's stay on top tho

[ripe quest]

oh whoop

[errant berry]

lmao

[ripe quest]

mb

[errant berry]

no gabe is the name of a king

[proud pivot]

I'd need a mouse/keyboard. Not a monitor.

[ripe quest]

oh ok

what about headsets

[errant berry]

ok

[proud pivot]

I do not really need advice on build parts like a CPU/GPU. I've built gaming rigs before and pretty comfortable in that department. What I'm trying to get feedback on is integrating a additional computer into a current setup. Someone told me I should look into a KVM switch? All that stuff is alien to me.

[errant berry]

ohh

[ripe quest]

hmm ok

[errant berry]

idk ab that stuff

[ripe quest]

misunderstood you

[errant berry]

thought you just didnt know any of the newer parts

[foggy hazel]

@proud pivot could you elaborate on what you THINK you are supposed to gain by that?

[proud pivot]

That's ok. I wasn't entirely clear. This is probably a more unique request than y'all usually get in here.

[errant berry]

yea

[ripe quest]

you could get another monitor and hook that up to the mac

and have a dual monitor setup

but that would really be a pain

[errant berry]

idk if the mouse would connect to both tho

[ripe quest]

true

[errant berry]

bc they are different pcs

[ripe quest]

the only way that could work is bluetooth connectivity

[errant berry]

ya

[proud pivot]

@foggy hazel It's my understanding that Mac OS does not support many games. I'd also have less frames and graphics comparative to a dedicated gaming rig.

[errant berry]

the g305 would be good for a mouse then

[lyric thistle]

monitors should auto source if they're decent models, keyboard/mouse is a different story

[foggy hazel]

its not a problem @errant berry & @ripe quest it is quite literally what a KVM switch is used for

[ripe quest]

honestly i think that if you have a 1500 dollar budget the pc that you could build would be a lot better than your mac at photo editing

[foggy hazel]

@ripe quest not what he is asking about :)

and it would also break his workflow

[proud pivot]

@ripe quest you're absolutely correct, but I like how the mac integrates into my work. The integrations to my phone and such really make my workflow easier.

[ripe quest]

oh ok

[foggy hazel]

2sec Caleb, let me just grab a link

[ripe quest]

idk about this stuff then

[proud pivot]

@foggy hazel I'm open to bootcamping if I can play most games at a decent setting, but I'm totally unfamiliar with that process and I do miss my old gaming rig haha 😫

[foggy hazel]

well, the imac will be limited on the GPU side

unless you are willing to go with a external GPU that is

[proud pivot]

Absolutely. I have a Radeon Pro 570.

[foggy hazel]

but that in itself is a solution in search of a problem

[proud pivot]

Last time I looked into external GPU's it was a pretty sub-optimal

[foggy hazel]

btw, while i search: could you talk a bit about your benq, because that is one lovely monitor (that i am yet to have facetime with)

[proud pivot]

Ideally I can get a pretty good PC that would be easier to switch between my mac and gaming rig. I think that's where components like the KVM switch come in, but I have no idea how they work and would prefer not to spend hours learning it.

Oh god it's amazing, especially for photo editing. I love it.

[foggy hazel]

calibrated out of the box right?

or?

side question: you are using which monitor input on the benq at the moment?

[proud pivot]

It does come calibrated yes

was pretty spot on, but I haven't tested it lately as I've been busy with real work.

[foggy hazel]

aye aye

see the monitor input question above btw :)

[proud pivot]

Yes I believe it's in the display port, but HDMI ports are available.

[foggy hazel]

perfect

[odd crypt]

Hey is this a good 1000$ build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tqLGK4

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[foggy hazel]

just so you are aware: a KVM switch can be something as simple as a "dumb" box that you connect your pc's, monitors and keyboard/mouse to. And then when you press a key on the switch (or in software) you switch from one machine to the other.

[proud pivot]

That sounds like it would really help with the setup

Does that work between two OS? How do I initiate a switch?

[foggy hazel]

it just takes the input

so it goes around the machines

they dont know it as such

http://www.tesla-smart.com/page1588?product_id=440 <- example of one

[proud pivot]

Do components need to be hardwired into the switch or is there bluetooth capabilities? Currently I use the magic keyboard.

[foggy hazel]

the magic keyboard would not work with a regular kvm switch

kvm switches are normally made for wired connections

[proud pivot]

And how would I find peripherals that work with a switch and both a windows/mac OS?

ok

that's not a deal breaker for me, although I do like the magic keyboard haha.

[foggy hazel]

the windows/macOS part can safely be ignored

you can think of the KVM switch as a bundle that contains all the output/inputs to your machine (monitor/keyboard/mouse)

and depending on what you press on the KVM it either gives access to the imac or to the pc

does that make better sense?

[proud pivot]

It does. I'm assuming headphones and microphone would also be able to hook into the KVM switch as well?

[foggy hazel]

you could

i am fond enough of my ears that i generally dont.

[odd crypt]

Hey could someone help

[foggy hazel]

@odd crypt have patience.

[proud pivot]

Why do you say that? Does the sound output not work properly?

[ripe quest]

sure

[foggy hazel]

it works "okay"

[ripe quest]

@odd crypt you have a 800 dollar budget right?

[foggy hazel]

@proud pivot all of this might be quicker to do in a voice call if you want?

[odd crypt]

Yea

[proud pivot]

Sure bud

[ripe quest]

ok

[proud pivot]

sorry to spam up the chat guys

[foggy hazel]

let me just grab some headphones

@proud pivot you can either join one of the voice channels below or we can do a private call. Its your choice.

[proud pivot]

@foggy hazel I'm in general 1. Let me make sure my mac is setup properly.

[ripe quest]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gX9kFG

@odd crypt

[odd crypt]

Ok

Thx

[ripe quest]

yeah np

the system is pretty solid

pc part prices are pretty high atm so you might want to wait a bit

and dont get windows at full price

[foggy hazel]

@celest horizon could you grant permissions for @proud pivot

thank you :)

[marble laurel]

I have a ryzen 5 3600 and rx590 and i want to upgrade to a ryzen 7 3800 and a rtx 2070 super. which should i upgrade to first or should i do them at the same time?

[cursive wharf]

Those parts seem like they can hold you off until new gen

Is there a need rn to be more powerful?

[marble laurel]

my gpu tends to stop working sometimes and my roommate has the same one and hers stops working A LOT but she has an nzxt 510 case so i assume its just an overheating problem (maybe?). i dont know if its bc thats just how the graphics card is or if i need more fans in my case.

it doesnt stop working a lot, maybe like once every couple of weeks. but w hers, its an everyday thing

[errant berry]

facts

it just heats up

imma switch to a 3060 s when it comes out

[marble laurel]

im a college student with like $2 to my name

[errant berry]

ah

im lucky im in highschool

[marble laurel]

Yea i built my pc when i was in highschool