#building-and-recc-chat

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little osprey
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I actually found this really sweet local "mom and pop" shop

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Prices aren't too bad

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Yeah I found one too they have older i5 and i7 builds for like 100-200

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They carry newer stuff

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They even had a few b550s, new too

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Which I was surprised by since b550 is sold out almost everywhere

little leaf
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U guys have microcenter?

little osprey
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Noep

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*nope

little leaf
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I just found out I do

little osprey
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I have "microbytes" lol, canada

autumn gate
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can you guys help me build a pc i have 400-500usd budget and i dont really know what parts to pick

little osprey
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Closest is like 100+ miles

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500 isn't much

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I'm not sure if micro enter owns it

little leaf
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Go used

little osprey
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It's possible, but not much

autumn gate
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how about 600?

little osprey
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Wait for the 4700g to come out at that budget neyja

autumn gate
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ok thanks

little leaf
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600

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Easy

little osprey
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You won't even need a GPU, you can worry about it later

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Play on medium in the meantime lol

autumn gate
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ikr but i really need to build like this week tho huhu im thinking 3200g but idk

little osprey
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Going to go sleep before I have to work in less than 8 hours

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Or I guess 4600g or equivalent would be on that budget

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See yall

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I hate night shift😭😭, but the pay is amazing 🤑🤑

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3200g is good, but if u get a GPU I heard the 3100 is better, I'm not super up to date

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I wish I had a pay xD

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I make like ten bucks a day with my life savings of what is now 1900 bucks lol

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Investing

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lol

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But soon that goes to computer

autumn gate
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i make nothing at all lol

little osprey
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My pay is completely random

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So now I'm at ~1100, -550 for my mobo and cpu

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*with tax

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A server rack wearhouse is hiring tho 20 an hour

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But it's full time :(

autumn gate
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3200g or 3400g? im buying a gpu in the future

little osprey
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Probably 32 but I'm really not sure

autumn gate
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i think if you really need the money you have to do it then retire lol

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ok thanks

little osprey
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You should know that with a CPU like that you won't be able to get a GPU stronger than like a 1660ish

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Which is pretty powerful in its own right but, it don't do the ray trace

formal plover
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GUys

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I need help

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wit wrong cht

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wit*

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wit*

little osprey
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I wanna flight sim

formal plover
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dng tht one's broken too

little osprey
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New game look so good

formal plover
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yeh

little osprey
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Microsoft is building the matrix

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Like forget about graphic design let's just upload earth

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And NPCs? Pffff just use u and ur data

autumn gate
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i think im only getting a 1050 ti tho and build a new pc when i grow old enought to get a job haha

little osprey
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Used 1050? Just get an old dell optiplex

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I5

autumn gate
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not used haha

little leaf
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Lmao

little osprey
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Thats a 5 yr old low end card....

little leaf
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These people come here with low budgets

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And say

autumn gate
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bruh ok

little leaf
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Let me not go used

autumn gate
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so what should i pair the 3200g with?

little osprey
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1650 super minimum

autumn gate
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okok

little osprey
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Or a 570 used

little leaf
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budget

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what is the budget

little osprey
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If it's too expensive then a used 1050 lol, not new

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500

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I5 optiplex + 1050 = 200 bucks, or less

autumn gate
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500-600

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is it good?

little osprey
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Almost as good as a 3200 and 1050 lol

autumn gate
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wtf is this HAHAHAH

little osprey
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You said yourself it's a temporary pc

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Get used

autumn gate
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hahaha

little osprey
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3200 is much better then an old i5 of course but, if your pairing it with a 1050 it's pointless

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Old i7 max

little leaf
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600

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But I advise going used

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for more perf

autumn gate
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what if 3400g not gonna pair with gpu then upgrade all the parts when i have the money?

little osprey
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1650 non super.... Noooooooo

little leaf
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wait

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is it not lol

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sorry about that I looked up 1650s in search bar instead of the filter

little osprey
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3400g won't benefit you anymore then a 3200g

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The GPU portion will def be the limiter

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In all games

little leaf
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my list is the best new

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but you can get much better used

little osprey
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Ur list is meh lol

little leaf
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how ?

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the 1650s is the best you can get at the price

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3100 is the same

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b550 is future proof

cursive wharf
little osprey
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Needs a cheaper mobo, SSD is too much for this budget, and 8gb ram is probably fine

little leaf
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he said he is getting a new pc after

autumn gate
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why cant i send my build

little leaf
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the b550 is to future proof

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the ssd is fine

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why get less ram when you can have more?

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but

cursive wharf
little osprey
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Well of they upgrading into the same PC then yeah keep it b550

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I guess.. iuno

autumn gate
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oh sorry sorry

little leaf
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The said that this pc would be temp

cursive wharf
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@little osprey the things you cheap out on wont give enough leeway for something better

little osprey
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No but itl bring him closer to the actual budget

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Without effecting performance much

little leaf
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ok I"ll bring it down 20 dollars easy

little osprey
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A quad core and low end GPU is fine for 8 gb, and at a 500$ budget, just get a hard drive and call it a day, I'm sure they want more then 500gb

little leaf
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He said 500-600

little osprey
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That's like two games now

autumn gate
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im only using the pc for online class and editing playing csgo hehe

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cursive wharf
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well then

little leaf
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what lmao

errant berry
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dang

autumn gate
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bruh

cursive wharf
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wont do anything tho

fast dust
little leaf
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@fast dust acident

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Searched 1650s

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Instead of filtered it

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The list after is better

fast dust
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oh cool

little osprey
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1650 non super is oof

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I still don't know why the card isn't discontinued lmao

vital warren
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no 1050ti bad

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poo

little osprey
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1050 ti isn't still better than 1650?

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from what I've seen it's still poop compared to 1650 super

deep skiff
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1650 is still the best option if you dont have any power connectors and just the pcie power

kind flax
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what are chipsets for on mobo

unborn solstice
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a chipset is different than a socket. a socket is the size/shape/layout of a particular cpu. the chipset is what is offered with that. however, each chipset (ex. z490) is specific to a socket type (ex. LGA1200) @kind flax

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chipset can sometimes determine features like slot gen and whatnot. however these things can also be throttled by a cpu

kind flax
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yah

unborn solstice
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for example the z490 chipset supports pcie 4.0 but the current compatible cpu (intel 10th gen) does not

kind flax
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the reason im asking is cuz i have a b350m mobo

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and I was looking at b550m

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and seeing the features they offer

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and if its worth upgrading it

unborn solstice
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what are you looking for? is it something like more ram compatibility or slot gen?

kind flax
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yuhhh

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both?

little osprey
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Omg

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@fast dust I made $190 net gain from that RX 480 R7 2700 PC

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You were right r7 is a good selling point

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xD

fast dust
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cool

wanton river
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anyone still using a 580?

little leaf
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Yes

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Decent card

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1080p gaming fine

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2k no go

timber grotto
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@wanton river Have an RX570 infront of me going into a customers build tomorrow/thursday when the rest of parts ship lol. 2nd one I've used in builds this month cause they're great cards for the price.

wanton river
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no i mean a gtx5890

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gtx 580

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lol

little leaf
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Oh I ser

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No the 580

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Is not good

wanton river
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yea ik

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but im thinking of getting a 1080

little leaf
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Wait for rtx 3000

errant berry
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mhm

unborn solstice
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i want a 3080ti

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im willing to spend $1000-1200 on a gpu but im not paying for the stupid 3090

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and so far it looks like there is no 80ti

errant berry
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dang

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just get the 3090

unborn solstice
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but the 90 is titan comparable which doesnt really help with gaming for a higher cost. i would just wait til release and watch reviews but i want it asap

errant berry
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good point

unborn solstice
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eh screw it. ill pick up a few extra shifts and get the 90

errant berry
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lmaoo

rigid ibex
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My cpu is not Turning on with one power supply but with the other it is.But the problem is my gpu turns off the power supply that the cpu will not work on is a Corsair rm 850x anyone have any ideas?

errant berry
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if youre going to pay 1400 might as well

desert gulch
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What cpu @rigid ibex

robust plover
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I ordered my pc parts today big hype

digital pecan
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@high chasm um ur cpu cooler is sideways

high chasm
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no it aint lmao

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i just didnt re orient the screen

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that pic was taken before i downloaded cam

digital pecan
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thats what i meant

errant berry
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so if i wanted to sell my pc and build a new one, is there a way i can save all my downloads?

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idk if this is a build chat thing

high chasm
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create a system image

errant berry
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whats that

high chasm
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youtue iot

errant berry
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ok

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but it would be bad if i just took the m.2 drive out?

high chasm
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oh

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uh

errant berry
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and replaced it with a hdd

high chasm
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🤷‍♂️

errant berry
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lol

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thanks for the help tho

zenith cedar
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If I was thinking about building a new pc around this time, would I wanna just wait for amd 4000 series and GeForce 3000 series to come out? Or just one or the other, any ideas on that?

errant berry
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id wait

high chasm
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amd 4000

errant berry
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ye

high chasm
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amd 5000!

errant berry
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lol

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thatll be interesting to see

zenith cedar
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Lmaooo and gotcha thanks

errant berry
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but a while from now

zenith cedar
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Are they gonna release a new line of motherboards for when 4009 series comes around, how does that work exactly?

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*4000

still roostBOT
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high chasm
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the reason i bought a titan is so i dont need to upgrade to 3000 series, or just my excuse to put the titan in my i9 rig and buy the 3000 titan for this

errant berry
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i think its compatible with the older boards

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i have a b450 and im pretty sure theyre planning to make it work with it

zenith cedar
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That’s what I heard, it was like some b450s and all b550s or something like that

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Wasn’t sure cuz I couldn’t find much about it

errant berry
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yea

small heron
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@zenith cedar lol just bought a pc for about 200 more than it would norm be

zenith cedar
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Lmaooo that’s tough, hope you like it tho

small heron
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Havent even bought the gpu yet 😎

errant berry
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dang

weary bluff
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how long do you think we have to wait for the i9 10th gen to go back down to $530? should i just buy my i7 10th gen now

rigid ibex
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@desert gulch i9 10900k

little leaf
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@weary bluff dont buy a 10900k

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Are your just gaming

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If so get a 10600k

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And oc it

weary bluff
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i want to game and stream. I'm either gettingi7 or i9 but idk if i should buy rn or wait

little leaf
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Wait

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Ehat gpu will you pari with it?

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@weary bluff go amd if you plan to pair it with a 3080 or 3090

weary bluff
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prob a 3000 series

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I'd rather stay intel tho

little leaf
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Then go amd

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What is your total budget

weary bluff
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around 3k ig

little leaf
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Yes then get amd

weary bluff
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i would prefer to stay intel

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why should amd be paired with 3080?

little leaf
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Pcie gen 4

cursive wharf
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are you going 240Hz display?

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if not then Intel is a waste

tropic cape
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@weary bluff i like both but if you wanna stream and game amd is where its at.

cursive wharf
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not really, you'll be doing NVENC encoder so CPU wont matter that much

little leaf
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I eould just use amd for the pcie gen 4

tropic cape
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amd still has better speeds in everything else... except gaming and strictly gaming by minimal amounts

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if i was making a rig for JUST gaming id do intel

deep skiff
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eh intel still has a decent lead in gaming in mid-high end

tropic cape
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...

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what benchmarks do you use

cursive wharf
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gaming+streaming is basically same perf as gaming alone if you have a Nvidia GPU. If you plan to go for pure FPS, intel can win by a decent amount

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OC core/ring and 4000MT/s CL16 memory

tropic cape
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this may have changed but the last time i checked benchmarks amd was leading and not by a little i still like intel though

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i just have to give cred where cred is do

deep skiff
cursive wharf
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That's because those benchs werent testing for pure FPS people, like people who do major comp stuff

weary bluff
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im gonna buy intel i just want to know if i should buy an i7-10k or wait for i9-10k to go down

cursive wharf
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As in, 240Hz+

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where you start to lower settings

weary bluff
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144hz

deep skiff
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amd is usually a better choice at gaming but intel still has a lead

little leaf
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Pcie grn 4

cursive wharf
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So basically, if you have a high budget and are doing truly comp FPS then go Intel as you'd notice the difference. If not, then AMD

tropic cape
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@weary bluff if your worried about price go with the i7

little leaf
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Go amd

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Pcie gen 4

cursive wharf
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Go IBM

weary bluff
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.-.

deep skiff
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go sketchy chinese cpu brand

weary bluff
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at this point ima just put a potato in my mobo

tropic cape
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i read the article a little and that seemed fair only...at that budget why not go with the r7 3700x or r5 3600x.

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@weary bluff what gpu

weary bluff
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most likely a 3000 series

tropic cape
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same my pc isnt finished yet

cursive wharf
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3080(Ti)?

deep skiff
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id also suggest going with a 3600, but i linked that to say that intel is a decent amount ahead if money isnt really a priority

weary bluff
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no ti prob too much

cursive wharf
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focus on GPU before CPU

tropic cape
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i have an r7 3700x (first time ive gone amd

weary bluff
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ill get something around $600

tropic cape
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and im wiating for the 3000 series

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i think 600 is close to the 3080

cursive wharf
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no, dont go Intel then

little leaf
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@weary bluff lmao 600

cursive wharf
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go AMD and add $200 to your GPU budget

little leaf
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And u want a 10900k

tropic cape
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what should i do with this crap ive been given it has an i5-6500 no gpu 8 gigs ddr4 ram at 2400

cursive wharf
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sell it

tropic cape
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its stupid filthy too

deep skiff
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^

tropic cape
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i wouold have to clean it and replace the case

deep skiff
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if you cant use it at least try to make money off it

tropic cape
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i would probably loose money

cursive wharf
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not if you do it right

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cough rip people off cough

tropic cape
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....

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no no hes got a point

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label it as a gaming pc XD

cursive wharf
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basically: clean it up, add some cheap colored LEDs, profit

tropic cape
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maybe

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if i sold it like i should id only make maybe 100 bucks profit

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id send pictures of it but you know

cursive wharf
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buy a used RX470 for like $80, three RGB fans for $30, and sell it for like $450 - $550

tropic cape
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i couldnt do that to anybody

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especialy because im at a point in this where my reviews matter

little leaf
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Sell it on ebay

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Or use new acc

tropic cape
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tru

spiral zealot
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i flipped an i5-6500 Dell build with a 750Ti for $350

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someone out there will buy whatever you put together

tropic cape
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im not big on selling people who dont know hat they're buying somehting i know is crap

spiral zealot
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and i flipped an i7-6700, non K, with 16GB ram and an RX 570 for $550, just threw it in a white fractal case with some white ring LED's

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the i5-6500 would be a solid machine with a GPU upgrade, so for $350 plus $100 on ebay, they have a solid 1080p machine

tropic cape
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i understand that but 500 might be a little overkill. especially for a machine id have about 200 in

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well I've got business in the morning ima head out

errant berry
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i dont see the issue with selling like that

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if they pay extra, they need to do the research

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so they can get a good deal

fast dust
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Hey guys ive talked about this issue before but have no idea where to even go from here
On this new, freshly built system, i can install windows just fine, but, after about a few minutes or so while in windows, my screen flickers, then the PC restarts, and windows goes into recovery mode. Cant get back into windows.
I've tried using a different hard drive, different ram, different PSU, different motherboard, different windows install usbs, but not matter what, nothing seems to work.
Anybody know what could possibly be causing this issue? Maybe walk me through some troubleshooting steps?
Thanks so much for anyone who helps.
Specs:
FX-6100
1x8gb DDR3
Asus Strix GTX 960 2gb
EVGA 450 BR
Adata SU630 240gb
Asus M5A78L-MLXPLUS

errant berry
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well

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naturally when im discussing something on here you add to it something that is hella factual and something i didnt know so i dont think i can help

cursive wharf
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you didnt say if you tried diff CPU

fast dust
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oh, i did not

errant berry
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yea

fast dust
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i do have an athlon X2 II 270 or smth i can try out

errant berry
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id try that

cursive wharf
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if you changed so much stuff, most likely CPU

undone dust
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uninstall and reinstall windows

fast dust
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i am praying with all my heart the CPU sint the problem. I would like, cry or somwthing, if it is

cursive wharf
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that or case is shorting something random

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idk

errant berry
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is that cpu expensive?

fast dust
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uninstall and reinstall windows
I have easily done this 10+ times

cursive wharf
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try 20+ times?

fast dust
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that or case is shorting something random
im testing it outside of the case rn

cursive wharf
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test bench or smth?

fast dust
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is that cpu expensive?
not really. FX-6100. like pretty old. people just overprice them cause it has "six cores"

cursive wharf
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"six" cores rather

errant berry
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oh

fast dust
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""""""""Six"""""""

cursive wharf
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yeah p much

vital warren
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when my "six" core processor has 3

errant berry
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so you have no warranty for it if its broken

fast dust
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yes. bought all used. and it just so happens that the only thing i cant return/replace readily is the CPU

cursive wharf
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F

errant berry
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dang that sucks

undone dust
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F

fast dust
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trying new cpu rn

errant berry
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ok

fast dust
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does this board even support this CPU?

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lemme check

undone dust
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lol

fast dust
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ok phew it does

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i didnt want to have to gut my other system to get the athlon 245 thats in there

errant berry
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so its the cpu?

fast dust
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that seems like the best bet as to what it is right now

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but im testing to see if it is

errant berry
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dang that sucks

fast dust
errant berry
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that cpu fan looks sick tho

fast dust
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yes it is sick for the price

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just a little loud sadly

errant berry
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what is it?

fast dust
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Darkflash Darkvoid

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$14 on eBay

errant berry
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my gpu fans can mask it lol

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thats pretty good

fast dust
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100w advertised TDP

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i just dont get how a CPU could bork up windows so bad but whatever

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worth a try anyways

errant berry
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yea

wary geode
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yams whats happening

fast dust
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same PC

wary geode
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@fast dust

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oh dag

fast dust
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that i had trouble with before yeah

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read up

wary geode
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imma work on my ram things ina bit

fast dust
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cool

wary geode
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what havent you tried so far

fast dust
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CPU. thats what im trying now

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and GPU

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but i highly doubt it'd be that. that's a last resort

wary geode
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welp good luck

fast dust
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thanks

wary geode
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my aio is coming in 2 days at least

fast dust
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good for you

wary geode
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so hyped free aio

fast dust
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im in windows

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just gotta leave it at teh desktop

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and wait

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wait until it either crashes or like 30 minutes

errant berry
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how'd you get a free aio @wary geode

fast dust
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unethical methods

wary geode
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i got this okay so mercari new account 5$ i sent a link from my main 10$ off 5$ to post 20$ after the fist purchease 20$ to myself the aio is 37 mercari gave me 10$

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yes unethical ill say

errant berry
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well it is what it is

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still a free aio

wary geode
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not to mention got 5$ off for using paypal so i got another thing in my account

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so i got paid 12.75$ and i get a coolermaster v2

errant berry
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lmaoo

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that worked out well

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does that still work?

wary geode
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yep

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exactly

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its pretty new he used it for 2 motnhs

errant berry
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that isnt bad

fast dust
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welp

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it happened again

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with a different CPU

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how

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the heck

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ughhhh

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ok ill come back to this tomorrow

errant berry
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is it possible the windows 10 is bad

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idk if thats a thing

fast dust
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I’ve tried recreating the usb 3 times and on 2 different flash drives

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The only bing left is GPU

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Gonna try to replace GPU

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Then as a last resort

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Try installing win 10 home instead of pro

errant berry
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what are you getting windows from?

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idk if that would affect it

fast dust
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The windows website duh

errant berry
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lol just gotta make sure

fast dust
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Lol i done even know where else I’d get it

errant berry
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im sure there are other areas

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well idk what is wrong

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its hard to thing its a gpu issue

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i did have an issue like this

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where i set the speed of my ram accidentally higher than what i bought

fast dust
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That’s weird

errant berry
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yea

fast dust
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My ram is running at stock 1600 or 1333MHz in bios. Can’t remember which

errant berry
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gotcha

fast dust
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And I’ve tried clearing CMOS, so that resets BIOS to default so that can’t be the issue

errant berry
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ok

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bruh thats so weird

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it seems like youve gone through all the possible issues

fast dust
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Seriously

wary geode
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like i said i had issues with gpus where compalibilty is a issue

fast dust
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So I’m gonna do my last resort tries

wary geode
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its weird i know but it oes happemn

fast dust
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Yeah gonna throw a 650TI or 8600 GTS in there so it basically has guaranteed support

wary geode
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i can explain futhermore if youd like but it probably wont make sense

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i know a fair mount about gpus and its a internal issue

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its the thing i most confident with

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i mainly just know the things that make up them i dont focus on internal tinkering

errant berry
#

im confident in what parts go into a pc

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lol

fast dust
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Gonna try those things tomorrow -_-

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Hopefully gonna have a lot of free time tomorrow cause online school is wacky

errant berry
#

facts

wary geode
#

i dont have school

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well "office hours"

errant berry
#

im jealous

#

ap physics got me all types of confused

wary geode
#

oof

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chemistry is putting blocks together

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im in kindergarden

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ok imma test my things now and file a rma

unborn solstice
#

@errant berry which ap physics are u in?

little osprey
#

Another friend of mine is thinking about getting a $500-600 starter PC build

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Any good lists?

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Me in geometry and biology lol

unborn solstice
#

good for u guys btw. i started college with 31 ap credits and its a huge boost. they even gave me a small scholarship because i was a good student or something

still mesa
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hey

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i’m building a pc rn

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i need help urgent

#

can someone?

unborn solstice
#

yes?

still mesa
#

look

unborn solstice
#

ooh paper

still mesa
#

i’m trying to install my water cooking but

little osprey
#

@unborn solstice any good 500-600 builds?

still mesa
#

the part on top (last picture) is too big to fit in there

errant berry
#

@errant berry which ap physics are u in?
@unborn solstice im in the base class but kinematics already messing me up lol

still mesa
#

but the other similar part on the manual does fits but it says it’s not supposed to be there

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what should i do?

unborn solstice
#

i have a $800 build im making for my cousin i could recise

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revise*

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kinematics is nice because everything works off of each other. once u get to e&m stuff gets a bit wild

errant berry
#

but you went in to college with 31 ap credits

little osprey
#

Ok koo Koo that would be good

errant berry
#

like

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i didnt even know you could take that many

unborn solstice
#

ill let u in on a secret

#

ap foreign languages are the best

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15 credits from spanish alone

errant berry
#

if only my school had an ap japanese class

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if that even exists

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but thats a lot

zenith cedar
#

There’s an ap exam for it that you could register for still I’m pretty sure

errant berry
#

ah

unborn solstice
#

depends on the college youre looking at

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you should check their website first

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@little osprey i dont really have much bc most of the stuff might change depending on new gpu prices

little osprey
#

Oh I see

unborn solstice
#

@still mesa that part in the pic looks like the one that goes on the back just to cover the exposed back of the mobo

little osprey
#

Ye I totally forgot lol my b @unborn solstice

unborn solstice
#

i really hope people are getting my name

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its amperes law

little osprey
#

What's the meaning? I need an explanation

unborn solstice
#

ampere is who the new 3000 series gpus are named after. just like turing and pascal

little osprey
#

I sed

#

See*

wary geode
#

Can

viral ore
#

Can

foggy hazel
#

@still mesa you found a solution?

#

if not: then here is how you fit that retention bracket: First, the inner holes (closest to the CPU) are where the bolts go.

Second: It is put in from the back of the board (just in case that isnt clear)

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note: the reason it currently doesnt align is because your bolts are in the position for the old 1366 socket.

still mesa
#

yeaa i did

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but i need help again

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i am trying to put my radiator of my water cooling there but my RAM won’t let it because there’s not enough space

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what can i do?

desert gulch
#

Put the rad on the front

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@still mesa

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^

still mesa
#

There are other fans of the case that won’t let me

little leaf
#

Movr them then

still mesa
#

Got it

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I put them in the front

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with both my case fans and the radiator fans

fading acorn
#

rate it

earnest olive
#

@fading acorn paying nvme prices for non nvme m.2 ssd?

spiral zealot
#

why 4133 cl19?

earnest olive
#

spending $113 on case fans for a 3600 and 2060S?

spiral zealot
#

on a 3600?

earnest olive
#

C tier psu

#

monitor seems overpriced for what it offers

#

my 1440p 165hz monitor was barely more expensive than that

#

also

#

spending $113 on fans just to get a case with poor airflow

#

at least get the mesh version of it

#

and yeah you won't be able to hit 4133mhz ram in coupled mode on basically any 3600

#

but it'll probably manual tune down to like 3800 cl16

vital warren
#

just get a td500 mesh

fading acorn
#

it is mesh version

unkempt jolt
#

From reading around, I read that any 10th gen intel core CPU will support 128gb of ram to include the I3 and I5 m. Is this correct?

rough loom
#

10th gens already out

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as for the mobo

unkempt jolt
#

???? Which 10th gens??? The I5, I7s or the I9s??

rough loom
#

I cant even find the max ram cap

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i7 and up supports faster ram up to 2933 mhz

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i5 supports 2666. but i cant find anything that states max usuable capacity

unkempt jolt
#

Yea that’s why I’m a little confused, don’t want to get a cpu more powerful than I intent to build up the other components but also don’t want to get something too weak but the ram I’m looking to getting to

rough loom
#

I mean an i7 is usually pretty safe

#

they arent too expensive and give good performance

#

most ram in a standard desktop config i hear is like 64 gigs

unkempt jolt
#

Thanks I’ll probably go with that, is unlocked a must? I don’t think I have the know how to overclock it myself right now

rough loom
#

so beyond that is unknown for desktop rigs unless you go high end desktop

#

Unlocked gives alot more flexability

unkempt jolt
#

I just got a motherboard that supports 128 so that’s what I’m looking at for the memories

rough loom
#

allright. yea thats why I mentioned mobo earlier. I had thought it was a motherboard limit

little osprey
#

good build?

rough loom
#

but unlocked i7 is what i would personally choose

#

unless you wanted to go amd

#

depending what your doing

unkempt jolt
#

I think the intel I7 will be good enough. Upgrading from an office desktop turned gaming desktop that only runs 16gb of ram so anything better than that is an upgrade for me

rough loom
#

than yea. unlocked i7. unless your doing some high end editing or something i wouldnt go more than 32 gigs ram

little leaf
#

@little osprey ssd over priced

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@unkempt jolt lmao all game only use like 8-10 gigs of ram

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Ram is not deciding factor in gaming

little osprey
#

I mean all of this stuff has been made and bought already

little leaf
#

Most you need for gaming is 16

#

@unkempt jolt if you get a i7 10700k and anything lower than a 2080ti

#

I will be very

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Very

#

Disappointed

#

Also games only need 16gbs of ram idk what your on

#

The cpu and gpu are definitely the thing holding u back

little osprey
little osprey
#

better water it a lil like your other plants

safe heart
#

Bois I need some help i think I’m gonna start upgrading my pc and I’m starting with my cpu and gpu, I’m thinking about getting the AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 6-Core as a cpu and a AMD Radeon RED Dragon RX 580 8GB GDDR5 1 x DL as a gpu

Idk which chat to put this in cus one is gpu and the other is cpu but yerrr

Also my budget is limited and I’m not super techy

unborn solstice
#

2 questions

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how much are u willing to spend and what do u use this pc for?

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@safe heart

safe heart
#

Gaming and video editing and around a total of 500

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I’m at school atm so I’d tell you my current specs but idk them off the top of my head

shrewd tundra
#

@safe heart do you focus more on gaming or editing?

safe heart
#

Gaming

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But I also need to run première rly well too

shrewd tundra
#

if your gaming more just get a ryzen 5 3600

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and a 1650

little osprey
#

500$ for processor+gpu?

shrewd tundra
#

i think so

safe heart
#

Ye frous

little osprey
#

1650 is bad lmao

shrewd tundra
#

ik

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but his budget

safe heart
#

I’m pretty sure rn I have a 1660

shrewd tundra
#

wait

#

so you alr have a pc

safe heart
#

Not sure if that’s tru doe

little osprey
#

a ryzen 3600 is like 200 bucks with the rest 300 you can get a 1660 super

safe heart
#

Yeah

little osprey
#

he's not building from ground up lmao

shrewd tundra
#

oh nvm

little osprey
#

he said processor and gpu

#

lmfao

#

what processor you have rn?

safe heart
#

Idk off the top of my head I’m at school atm

little osprey
#

oh lol

shrewd tundra
#

treat your pc with more respect

little osprey
#

if you have a ryzen 5 3600 then you should probably just get a 2070 non-super lmao

shrewd tundra
#

isnt a 5700xt better?

#

its cheaper

little osprey
#

dunno

#

all I know 2070 is all around better for streaming too

#

2060 is $400 and is beaten by 5700xt but 2070 can contest it pretty well

midnight vine
#

so you should then pair your ryzen 5 3600 with 2070 SUPER?

little osprey
#

ryzen 5 3600 basically does for most gpus

shrewd tundra
#

pairing amd with amd feels better tbh

#

but a 5700xt is a better choice instaed of a 2070

stoic island
#

If you don't stream

safe heart
#

Brb I gotta pay attention in class

stoic island
#

5700xt > 2070 in gaming perf

midnight vine
#

will 2070 SUPER be better for rendering, video editing, and stuff?

shrewd tundra
#

he doesnt stream

#

he just stated gaming and video edititng

stoic island
#

2070s beats 5700xt overall

#

Anyways

unborn solstice
#

guys he said $500

stoic island
#

Wait for Nvidia 3rd gen

unborn solstice
#

for both

shrewd tundra
#

the prices are alr leaked

#

my waller aint big enough

stoic island
#

You just need to wait like 5 days

unborn solstice
#

other prices will drop

stoic island
#

Leaks doesn't mean the truth

shrewd tundra
#

ram and ssd will drop maybe

stoic island
#

Prices on the new market likely won't drop

#

GPU wise

#

Used market maybe

shrewd tundra
#

i rather wait for big navi tbh

midnight vine
#

i was planning to buy a GPU that is good for video editing and stuffs..

shrewd tundra
#

just wait

stoic island
#

Big Navi can't say crap until consoles come

#

They prob signed stuff with consoles

unborn solstice
#

video editing is a highly intensive cpu task

stoic island
#

Can have GPU Accel too tho.

unborn solstice
#

i watched one of your yt videos and the recordings were sometimes in like 3 fps

stoic island
#

Both CPU and GPU needs to be good.

unborn solstice
#

well yes but just watch a vid and youll see

stoic island
#

Oh the gameplay was 3fps?

unborn solstice
#

indeed

midnight vine
#

i don't think i have the budget for the big navi and 3000 series though

shrewd tundra
#

big navi prices arent leaked yet

little osprey
#

if your pc is already decent enough just wait a bit for the rtx 3000 series cards to release

shrewd tundra
#

and the leaks migh not be true

stoic island
#

Didn't you say you can spend 500$ on a GPU? 3060 is almost certainly under 500$

midnight vine
#

i am thinking about having ryzen 5 3600 with 2070 SUPER as of the moment

stoic island
#

Just wait til 3000 series

midnight vine
#

will that work for video editing and stuffs?

#

🙂

stoic island
#

It's what 5 days until the announcement

#

Might be a good idea to grab a 3700x for editing

midnight vine
#

okay.. will try to wait this september

#

but 3700 is way more expensive than 3600 and i can't afford that much

stoic island
#

But every generation typically moves up a step, so the 400$ 2060 card was about the same as the 500$ 1070 card, and the 400$ 2060 super card was about the same as the 500$ 2070 card

#

Just saying

#

Btw what's total budget

#

I'll make a list

#

@midnight vine what's your current PC, and how much are you willing to spend?

midnight vine
#

currently i have i5-7400 with 1050Ti and am planning to buy an Ryzen 5 3600 with 2070 SUPER

stoic island
#

What are you willing to spend

#

And what else is in the PC

#

You can't just slap a 3600 into a lga1151 motherboard

#

Or expect a 2070 super to run off some 300w psu

#

So more information would be nice

midnight vine
#

i already bought a mobo that's good for AMD 3rd gen at most then a 750W PSU

#

i am just concerned with what processor and GPU to buy

stoic island
#

There's a lot of things people can overlook

analog hearth
#

Ryzen 3 (2+?) shouldn’t be that much of an improvement, btw

stoic island
#

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

#

For editing Zen 2 would be better already so

#

I mean 6c12t vs 4c4t isn't even a competition

#

@midnight vine anyways I'm also interested in the ram

#

Ryzen likes much faster ram than Intel

#

What motherboard?

midnight vine
#

Asus TUF B450M Plus since it is the only available mobo we have here as of the moment

stoic island
#

And what ram?

midnight vine
#

I have 8GB 3200MHz RAM x 2 sticks

stoic island
#

Yea try to get at some crucial 3600c16 2x8 GB kits

midnight vine
#

and go with 3700x?

shrewd tundra
#

your forgetting rgb >:c

tropic cape
#

i need some help. my cooler master h500 case came with 2x 200mm rgb fans but they run on 5v ARGB (3 pin) and my mobo only has 4 pin. i could just run my cpu cooler off my mobo but then they wouldnt match the fans 100% and that would bug me. is there some 5v ARGB controller that uses usb so i could run everything off of that or what should i do i need help first time ive ran into this issue i thought 4pin 12v was standard XD

stoic island
#

@midnight vine yea sorry was gone, 3700x is better for editing.

buoyant flame
#

I haven't seen any usb adapter that could do that. Your case should of come with a little sata powered argb switch for the front fans tho

tropic cape
#

it does thats what im using it just doesnt match my cpu cooler or ram

#

none of my rgb is in sync right now and it doesnt help that polychrome sync doesnt detect my ram

errant berry
#

isnt 4 pin connectors able to take 3 pins too

tropic cape
#

i just built this and its not complete yet waiting for that 3000 series but i want my rgb in order

stoic island
#

@errant berry not rgb

tropic cape
#

@errant berry no it cant@

buoyant flame
#

Ya, I ran my pc like that for a while until I upgraded motherboards. I think it might be possible to get a 3 pin argb to 4 pin rgb cabel, however the fans will only be able to run as rgb fans

stoic island
#

RGB 3 pin is 5v

tropic cape
#

ive already looked into that it wouldnt work

stoic island
#

4 pin is 12v

plain cloak
#

How much would a home-built server cost

stoic island
#

Some quick googling

tropic cape
#

how would i be able to get that to sync with my cpu/ram

stoic island
#

3pin DC fan plugs into 4pin pwm fan header just fine

#

Software should work

#

I'm on mobile atm so can't easily check

buoyant flame
#

Same

stoic island
#

Okay according to product page there's "1 cable to sync with motherboard"

tropic cape
#

that has a usb plugin couldnt i take that connect my fans to it, but use the usb control and do the same with my cpu so they all run off of my mobo

#

i plan on doing liquid cooling soon i just have to get a little more cash

stoic island
#

Liquid cooling isn't always the best :D

tropic cape
#

i know

stoic island
#

I love my Noctua d15

tropic cape
#

but im using a stock cooler

#

ive seen where the higher end noctuas cool the cpu better than the best luiquid cooler its more so that the luiquid cooler also acts as fans to help cool the rest of my build

#

and if i ever wanted to sell people are more likely to pay a premium for liquid cooling

stoic island
#

You know that the rad slows the airflow right

#

Anyways you do you, people like buying kewl watercooling

tropic cape
#

only if you take normal fans off for the rad

#

but yes im aware that is has less airflow than standard fans

stoic island
#

Rad is resistance

#

Anyways just don't get like a 150$ 280mm aio and that'll be fine

tropic cape
#

im not

stoic island
#

Arctic freezer ii is amazing for the price

tropic cape
#

i was thinking about the cooler master ml240 v2

stoic island
#

That's the cheap one I haven't looked into so I dunno

tropic cape
#

anything is better than a stock cooler though

stoic island
#

Arctic freezer II remains my suggestion for any and all AIO needs

tropic cape
#

i understand that

#

i still want to know what to do about my rgb XD

stoic island
#

I'm always perf > looks

#

If you want a good looking build, I'm not the person you want in chat >:D

tropic cape
#

im big perf vs build

#

its moreso that my case came with the rgb and amd stock cooler has rgb so if its there i want it to look normal

#

i just want it all a solid purple

#

ive gotta do more work ill be back later

earnest olive
#

I can understand wanting to spend on aesthetics

#

but some people are really ridiculous about it

#

no, your ryzen 5 3400G doesn't need a custom loop and $200 of rgb case fans

errant berry
#

lmao facts

earnest olive
#

I've had customers demand rgb fans and strips in a $300 build and I'm just like... no

#

you can have a $300 build that runs games and looks basic... or you can have a $300 build that looks fancy and barely runs windows 7

errant berry
#

lol

#

is it ok to have rgb in a 1k build?

earnest olive
#

yeah absolutely

#

I wouldn't go for $200 of corsair rgb case fans

#

but led strips for sure

#

you can get 2 for $17 and a motherboard that belongs in a $1k build is likely to have an rgb header

#

if you really want RGB fans the most cost effective way is to go for a case like P400A or TD500 mesh

stoic island
#

It's okay

earnest olive
#

both really solid cases for $100 that come with 3 argb fans and a controller

stoic island
#

but not amazing for rgb <1000$

earnest olive
#

the value of the fans alone are like $50 probably

errant berry
#

I wouldn't go for $200 of corsair rgb case fans
@earnest olive ya those fans are a waste i got the deepcool cf120

#

its like 50 for a 3 pack

#

and its the ones that came with my case

earnest olive
#

I'm a bigger fan of led strips

#

they provide the most light for the least money

stoic island
#

well

errant berry
#

true

stoic island
#

the rgb fans hei usually suggest from asiahorse is like 30$ for 3 fans

earnest olive
#

$17 of led strips is enough to light up the whole PC like a display case

errant berry
#

they seem messy tho if you dont know how to manage the cables

#

i dont

#

so thats why i just went with the fans

earnest olive
#

do your fans come with merged cables

#

the ones in the td500 come with a fan splitter and rgb header splitter so you only need 1 of each header

errant berry
#

i think there was

#

but i didnt use it bc my motherboard had enough connections

fleet portal
#

Motherboard - MSI x570 Tomahawk Wifi
CPU- Ryzen 9 3900x

im just looking for help finding out if one of the nzxt kraken cpu coolers is compatable.

keen shale
#

oh you cant post links

foggy hazel
#

look at the nzxt website @fleet portal

errant berry
#

im sure it is tho

#

should be at least

foggy hazel
#

those two statements do not align.

errant berry
#

what

foggy hazel
#

basically, if you dont know. dont say. :)

little osprey
#

What's the most expensive pc ever created?

foggy hazel
#

something we dont know about.

little osprey
#

hmmmmmm

foggy hazel
#

think about it like this: The definition of PC is different to people. And as an example: a Epyc or Xeon build used in some cornercase workflow for someones private setup. would most likely take the price for THIS generation.

errant berry
#

what's an epyc

foggy hazel
#

server cpu from AMD

#

this gives you an idea @errant berry

errant berry
#

my god 64 cores

earnest olive
#

8P xeon system is going to be way more expensive for sure

little osprey
#

new ssd or new ram ThinkingEgg

ripe quest
#

ssd\

#

well

foggy hazel
#

which again loops back to the "Definition" staement above @earnest olive

ripe quest
#

actually depends on how fast ur. ram is and how much storage ur ssd has

#

@little osprey

little osprey
#

can't use XMP on my ram and i have a 2tb hard

#

different brands of ram

ripe quest
#

oh

little osprey
#

and speeds

ripe quest
#

new ram

#

for sure

earnest olive
#

if you don't have an ssd

#

then go ssd

ripe quest
#

no

#

he has different speed ram and different brand ram

#

i would reccomend he go that route

earnest olive
#

still less important than having an ssd

#

also you can use XMP with mismatched RAM

ripe quest
#

and get like a 256 gig ssd with the leftover money

earnest olive
#

it'll just copy the lowest speed and loosest timings out of all of the modules

little osprey
#

@earnest olive i tried it just crashs its some green stick 8gb with 2x8 corsair vengeance

#

just gon get new ram

earnest olive
#

take out the 8gb green stick?

#

what do you need 24gb ram for

little osprey
#

minecraft

ripe quest
#

bruh

#

get a new ssd and take out the green stick

#

ur rarely gonna use all 16 gigs

little osprey
#

idk man rust and minecraft

earnest olive
#

idk i had no problem running minecraft server with 16gb

ripe quest
#

yeah same

earnest olive
#

minecraft uses like what 4gb? lol

little osprey
#

vanilla is for nerds

#

modded

ripe quest
#

minecraft runs well on laptops

#

well then...

#

idk

earnest olive
#

i ran modded minecraft server on a laptop with 8gb ram

#

z

ripe quest
#

get the ssd for windows and minecraft

still roostBOT
#
Mando#4221 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

little osprey
#

@still roost no you

ripe quest
#

check ur ram usage while running minecraft and if it really uses all 16 gigs all the time then get 2 new sticks

#

and if it doesnt get an ssd

#

@little osprey

little osprey
#

anybody got any suggetions, i wanna put up any rgb strip but i dont want to ruin my wall/ moniters finish

#

vinyl wrap to protect the monitors finish and a light adhesive tape should be fine for your wall @little osprey

little osprey
#

Thx

hearty scarab
#

Having trouble POSTing a pretty simple PC build and not sure what to try next.

I've built a few custom PCs, so it's not my first, but I'm not an expert or even close.

I'm reusing an old HP pavilion case, and putting in a Gigabyte B450M DS3H with a Ryzen 3200G, a single 8GB DDR4 3600.

Using a new 500W PSU and a 256GB SSD, and a GTX 1050 for graphics that I already had and have tested.

Sometimes the system doesn't even power on (i.e., no fans, no motherboard lights). But if it does then I get nothing on the monitor. I am using the GPU HDMI on my normal work monitor that I know works. There is an orange light on the motherboard, and it's solid which I think is a good sign, though the manual doesn't specify. There are no beeps on the motherboard either. (I do know that a blinking orange light is probably bad - I had that happen after doing a test of moving the RAM to a different slot as well as trying to boot without the GPU).

Not sure what to do or try next. Any suggestions?

little leaf
#

@hearty scarab well the orange light is standard looks for the board make aure everything is pulgged in so it isnt shorting and make sure the psu switxh is on

hearty scarab
#

Yup - PSU turned on - and once the fans/lights startup then nothing else happens. Everything seems solidly plugged in.

little leaf
#

Clear cmos

final orchid
#

im looking for a graphics card that does not require external power, aka PCI power. in the 100-120 dollar range. does anyone have any recommendations

errant berry
#

what even is that card lol

hearty scarab
#

Tried clearing CMOS, nothing changed.

errant berry
#

ive never heard of that

stoic island
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GTX 1650 @final orchid

final orchid
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ok ill look at that card

stoic island
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Oof prices are higher than expected

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It's like 150...

final orchid
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its about 140 on amazon for the ddr5

errant berry
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so is a pci card just any normal card

final orchid
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do you think this card could run ms flight simulator

errant berry
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like it goes in a pcie slot

stoic island
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Uhh

errant berry
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probably low

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very low

stoic island
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None of the no-external-power cards are particularly powerful

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It's above minimum specs, sooo you might be able to run it on low

final orchid
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do you think the Radeon RX 570 would run medium?

stoic island
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Those two cards are about the same

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Also pretty sure 570 need external power

little leaf
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It does

stoic island
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Yea 570 takes a 6pin

final orchid
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mhm

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im using an rx550 right now i might upgrade my PSU first then look into graphics cards

stoic island
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Yes

final orchid
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does anyone know of any power supply units that are in the price range of 100-120 dollars lmao

stoic island
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Yes a lot

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Like rm650x

final orchid
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bronze is ok. id perfer a gold

stoic island
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It's like one of the best consumer PSUs imo lol

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RMx series is great

final orchid
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alright ill trust you lmao

stoic island
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Check the PSU tier list

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It's pinned in the channel

final orchid
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i dont see it

stoic island
final orchid
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ok i see it now just had to load in

little osprey
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Russian

hearty scarab
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So - I tried resetting CMOS - what to try next? I can't get anything on-screen.

peak shore
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It's wild how expensive PSUs got this year. I remember paying like $115 or less maybe for my RMx 750 snow edition

errant berry
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how much is it now

peak shore
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$145 at least

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That's a private seller though

stoic island
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135$ on Corsair

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Not that high

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It was about 125$ for rm750x before corona

unkempt jolt
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Looking to get an Asus Liquid CPU cooler since all my other Components are Aura SYNC but I noticed that newegg website does not have any that support intel LGA 1200 socket blocks. Would another LGA socket fan like the 1151 fit? Or is it really socket specific cooling systems?

stoic island
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According to Noctua 1151 and 1200 are the same socket size and all

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just different pins

unkempt jolt
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Thanks

unkempt jolt
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Makes sense, that why I asked but I would had figured the Newegg website would not be limiting in their search bars if parts still fit different socket types

rough wasp
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Hey Im trying to build a system that will slam through After effects and cinema 4d

atomic harness
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anyone have experience with the lian li lancool 2 case

earnest olive
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@rough wasp budget?

rough wasp
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Over 3K

fast dust
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Im trying to download drivers for this motherboard but theres no option for windows 10, only windows 7. What should I do?

elfin burrow
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@atomic harness yes my roommate has a Lancool 2 i built for him

atomic harness
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my front rgb isn’t working but I have sata and argb plugged in so I can’t figure out what i’m doing wrong

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@elfin burrow

elfin burrow
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not working at all? like even if you use the built in buttons on case?

atomic harness
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yeah like it’s not even lighting up

elfin burrow
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check the pins between the front panel that comes off and the connector, make sure one is not slightly bent?

atomic harness
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the pins on the mobo?

earnest olive
elfin burrow
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no, the front panel has pins that will contact a connector when you reattach it to the case

earnest olive
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dunno how much storage/ram you need so i went with 128gb ram, 1tb ssd + 4tb hdd

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can knock the cpu down to a 3960X to reduce price

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definitely get a second opinion on something of this scale though

atomic harness
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can I dm you so I can send picture @elfin burrow

earnest olive
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i chose the 2060 KO because higher end GPU scaling has diminishing returns in these kind of workloads compared to gaming (source Puget Systems)

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while cpu scaling does drop off in after effects, cinema 4d doesn't stop scaling with cores, so the 3970X is mostly there for that

elfin burrow
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I am at work @atomic harness so can't really focus on chatting, just figured i would give some ideas

atomic harness
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no problem

earnest olive
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cinema 4d rarely requires more than 64gb of ram, but after effects can even go above 128gb in extreme cases, so 128gb of ram doesn't seem overkill here

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the cooler i chose can go into the case top mounted, so you'd have the 3 stock intake fans, 1 extra fan in the rear, and then the 360mm radiator on top, so cooling should be well taken care of

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the mobo and psu do the job, not much else to say about those

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hope this helps

rough wasp
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Himm Thanks @earnest olive that looks like a nice build! Ill look it over more

earnest olive
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Glad I could help but definitely get a second opinion on such a large purchase

hearty scarab
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Does anyone know where I can go to get help with a custom desktop that won't POST? I've cleared CMOS, I have power on, nothing on display.

wary geode
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did you plug in things correctly @hearty scarab

rigid ibex
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Hi I just upgraded my pc cpu and motherboard but when I turn it on a red light turns on next to my cpu does anyone know the cause of this cpu brand new

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And it does not post

wary geode
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that means your cpu is not responding to the motherbopard did you plug in the cpu cable?

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if not you got a DOA CPU

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@rigid ibex

rigid ibex
wary geode
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yes tech support here

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no here

hearty scarab
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I believe everything is plugged in. How can I tell if it's the CPU or motherboard?

wary geode
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send here

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there are beeps or red lights

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send me a video and @ me

rigid ibex
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Am you or send it here

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Dm

wary geode
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here

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good

hearty scarab
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Ah.. I wish there were threads in build chat. You're responding to Ark Plays.

wary geode
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ok so thats not allowing to boot please check if you plugged in the cables

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im responding to you too @hearty scarab

rigid ibex
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@wary geode

hearty scarab
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There are no beeps. I am fairly sure everything is plugged in. I'll setup a video

wary geode
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give me your main spec gpu cpu and psu

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ok video it to me thats easier

hearty scarab
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I have the two large connectors to the mboard, the power connector to the gpu, power to the ssd. RAM is seated. CPU is locked down under heatsink/fan

wary geode
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good

hearty scarab
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Will video.

wary geode
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ok thats fine ark please now check the cpu and fan is it turning on

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and is the aio actually pumping waterr

rigid ibex
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So will my cpu fan make it not turn on

wary geode
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did you put it in aio pump or cpu fan

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yeas theres a difference between plugging it in cpu fan and aio pump

rigid ibex
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Ok that is what I did then I have no idea how to hook it up

wary geode
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the ll120 fan goes to cpu fan and aio to aio pump

rigid ibex
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Ok ummmmmmmm

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Were would my aio spot be located

wary geode
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left side near sys 1

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you can plug aio pump to sys 1 too

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or cpu opt

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cpu opt = aio pump

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cpu fan + the fans on the aio

rigid ibex
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There

wary geode
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yes perfect
thats where the aio pump cable goes

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@hearty scarab hows it coming

rigid ibex
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So I plugged in the pump into fan

wary geode
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pump goes into cpu opt

rigid ibex
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Rip I will switch it

wary geode
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lol

little leaf
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Why is there a fan sitting on the gpu lmao

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You should take that off

rigid ibex
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Becouse I can’t plug in the cpu cable with out

little leaf
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What lmao

wary geode
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no its fine

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he needs to plug stuff in so he takes it off

little leaf
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I see