#building-and-recc-chat

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terse condor
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smdh dang man head shakin dang

wary geode
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yeah but i belive there are some retertions

terse condor
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what is a retertion

wary geode
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restrictions

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my bad bad spelling

spiral zealot
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safe mode by default just loads up the core OS, no networking, no background apps, etc

wary geode
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not ttally sure dont quote me

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oh i was right then YES!

spiral zealot
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there's usually an option to boot in 'safe mode w/networking' in case you need internet access for updating drivers/apps

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but other than that, it is still just the barebones core OS

wary geode
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yep

terse condor
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i was gonna say something about drivers too. i dont understand why though because windows has always installed the important ones for me

spiral zealot
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at this point in time, it's pretty good about being able to provide basic driver support for most hardware

terse condor
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the only thin I ever have to update are beta drivers for my gpu and the newest C++

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not sure why windows doesnt automatically download the freshest C++. then again you only need if for games and certain apps

fast dust
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ill try safe mode first since i dont know where to go to overclock

terse condor
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some motherboards have overclocking in the bios. I just use radeon software and msi afterbruner since it does what i need

fast dust
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i cant find anywhere in the bios to overclock, so

little leaf
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what you trying to oc?

fast dust
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the CPU. it might be degraded so sips said to give it a little more voltage

terse condor
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some motherboards need an update ifthey do have an overclocking option

wary geode
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give it life

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it may not even have a bios

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or a way to oc

terse condor
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would try safe mode before overclocking

spiral zealot
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does that board have a model number on it anywhere? or is it pure OEM generic through and through?

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it has a bios, the question is how full featured is it

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if it's an OEM board, it might just be very limited

fast dust
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got a BSOD when trying to boot in safe mode.
"bad system config info"

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its an asus board

little leaf
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what cpu?

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and what mobo?

fast dust
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Asus M5A78L M LX Plus

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FX-6100

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listed all specs in original post

little leaf
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nvm can't help rn

spiral zealot
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do you know what bios version it has now?

fast dust
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lemme see

wary geode
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cpu ram graphics

spiral zealot
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because the FX-6100 wasn't supported on the original bios version for that board

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it got support via bios update

fast dust
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version 0601

spiral zealot
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ok, that's fine. it needs 0402 or later for 6100 support

terse condor
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those boards dont have that much voltage either. would not overclok unless you're undeervolting

wary geode
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yez\

fast dust
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its not an overclock really, just a very small addition of volts

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like 50mv

terse condor
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oh tru

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get er workin

fast dust
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still dont know where to go to do that tho

wary geode
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do

terse condor
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sena pic to the chat of yourbios

spiral zealot
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go into the Advanced Settings menu

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and then CPU Configuration

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er

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wait

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Jumper Free Configuration

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that one

wary geode
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yes

spiral zealot
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There's an option there for CPU Over Voltage

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if you can't move it off Auto, it's because the CPU won't allow it, not the BIOS

fast dust
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there's no jumper free config

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wait i lie

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its at the top :|

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i cant move it off auto

spiral zealot
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use + and - to see if it will move

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arrow keys won't work

fast dust
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it brought up a little blue box that I can type in

spiral zealot
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well, that's progress. i have no idea what you should put in there, but presumably it's a value in mV, you can try something small like 10-20 to start

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the manual doesn't say what unit of power it uses for that option

fast dust
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well i can type up to 4 digits in there, so mv it is i guess

foggy hazel
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coughs

fast dust
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typed in 15 and it now shows up as 1.7000000

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yay naed is here

foggy hazel
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you are aware that you can screw things up beyond repair right @fast dust ?

fast dust
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nope

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but i am kinda desperate to fix this

spiral zealot
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personally, i would see if you can create a windows recovery disk and try and boot into that, and run some command line tools to see if you can fix a bad install

foggy hazel
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a quick question: did you assemble the board+cpu+cooler yourself or?

fast dust
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yes i did

wary geode
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yeah he did

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he checked the pins2

fast dust
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Hey would anyone be willing to help me troubleshoot and diagnose this new PC build? It's a fresh build, all used parts, and has the weirdest issue I've ever seen and have no idea how to even try and figure out what's wrong.
I can download windows on the computer just fine, but after being in windows for a ferw minutes, anywhere from 4-15 minutes, my screen will go black, the PC restarts, and then i cant get back into windows and go into windows recovery. I've tested the RAM and its good. The SSD seems to be good as I took it out and put it in a different system, crystaldiskinfo says it's okay. I've reinstalled windows about 6-7 times.
Any idea about how I'd go about troubleshooting this?
Specs are: FX-6100, Asus Strix GTX 960 2gb, 1x8gb DDR3, EVGA 450BR PSU, Adata SU630 240gb, Asus M5A78L M LX Plus, random HP ODD, Rosewill Tyrfing case.

Thanks in advance to anyone who helps :)
@fast dust

spiral zealot
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i'm not saying going into recovery mode on the existing install

foggy hazel
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2sec, let me just grab a picture of that board

spiral zealot
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i'm saying boot off the install USB

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and open a command prompt from there

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there's a tool called 'bootrec'

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that has some options you can use to try and repair things like the MBR, etc

fast dust
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This is what I’m seeing. I can press plus or minus to reduce or increase

foggy hazel
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the ssd is a used one too right?

little osprey
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bruh i built my pc and csnt find my kb&m we just moved

fast dust
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how would i use MBR etc to reoair it

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no, SSD is new

foggy hazel
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hm.

fast dust
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SSD new, case and PSU refurb, everything else preowned

spiral zealot
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the MBR is what is being repaired, you aren't using that to repair anything

foggy hazel
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got a mech drive you could test with?

spiral zealot
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MBR = master boot record

fast dust
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i do have a spare 2TB HP i could try to use

spiral zealot
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the bad system config error is usually either bad hardware or a corrupted install

foggy hazel
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that is a simple way to rule out the ssd as being the culprit

fast dust
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i've tried reinstalling windows like 7 times @spiral zealot, so ive ruled out corrupt install

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alright, lemme go grab the 2TB

foggy hazel
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that hasnt actually ruled out a corrupt install @fast dust

spiral zealot
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if the install media you're using is corrupted, the subsequent install will be bad too

fast dust
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it hasnt?

foggy hazel
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nope

spiral zealot
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and reinstalling from the same corrupted source means you'll always have a bad install

fast dust
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I've reinstalled it on the USB too

foggy hazel
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try and give the hdd a spin

fast dust
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alright

foggy hazel
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got to start narrowing down the working parts :)

spiral zealot
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try the HDD, yeah. if it is the install, it could be the USB stick itself that's going bad

fast dust
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i should probably set the voltage back to normal, how would i do that?

spiral zealot
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set it to auto if you can

foggy hazel
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just load defaults in the bios

spiral zealot
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or that

fast dust
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oh yeah, forgot about that

spiral zealot
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usually with fields like that, if you set the value to 0 it will flip back to auto

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but don't quote me on that, because i'm sure there's some brand out there that would take it literally and just apply 0 voltage

fast dust
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welp

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this is a byproduct of me being me

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but i misplaced my windows USB and have no idea where it is

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so give me a while

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to find it

neon condor
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Added the two 60mm fans to the sleeper.
It has airflow now.
I also swapped the Corsair fan that was in the front of the case with a 140mm Noctua.
I have many uses for this computer so I want it cool.
Also I swapped the stock Intel thingy out with that tower cooler. It looks like it's a basic air cooler but believe me when I say that little Phantex cooler can get a 6700K to 4.5Ghz with no problems.

dapper karma
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I need help with frames problems with gaming, is this the place to ask?

fast dust
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yep

midnight pelican
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@cloud grove the dust filter can also go under the top panel

dapper karma
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im rockin
ryzen 5 2600
RTX 2070 super
16gb 3000mhz (capped at 2133 because mobo wont let me boot going higher)

So i stream and my previous gpu was the 166o super, which was an excellent beginner card imo, so i saved up and got the 2070 super, which was probably not worth the money. but alas, i bought the card to have better frames on call of duty. but im seeing the same frames, exact same. so I need help figuring out why? is it my ram? do i need 32gb ram? or do i need a better cpu? is it ryzen? i know you dont get as many frames as intel

fast dust
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do you have a frame cap in place?

dapper karma
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no

fast dust
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what FPS are you getting

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and what resolution

dapper karma
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multi its like 100-150 on most maps. which is exactly what i got on the 1660, if not a little worse
warzone its 80-130 max.
1920x1080? i think lemme check

fast dust
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whats your monitors refresh rate

dapper karma
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144hz

fast dust
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do you have Vsync on

dapper karma
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I turn it off, it makes my streams choppy

fast dust
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makes sense. do you stream with CPU or GPU?

dapper karma
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GPU encoder. Nvenc new

fast dust
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hm

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strange

unkempt bone
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This is probably a stupid question, but i'm only using one M.2 and there was a blue film i had to peel off of the MB heatsink, do i need to remove that film from the heatsink of the second m.2 port as well?

dapper karma
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my friend gets close to 190 frames and hes on an i-7..with the exact same 2070 super

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my ram sits idle at 40 percent usage, im curious if ram would help? or is an issue?

fast dust
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try downloading MSI afterburner and running the game. monitor thet temps, usage, etc

cloud grove
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@midnight pelican yeah, ive been opening and messing around with cable management, so i put them all on the outside. they were catching when putting panels back on

midnight pelican
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oh

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lmao

cloud grove
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once im completely done with it, ill put them all back in. just easier this way lol

mental blaze
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Could you guys make me a build for my friend?
He is switching from a 2017 MacBook Pro 13 inch
He has a monitor and peripherals
His budget is between 800-1000
He said he wants to play games like gta V

fading acorn
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should i be sticking to amd or get an i9

little osprey
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I got a new hdd and it keeps going in to bios menu how do i stop that

desert gulch
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@fading acorn depends if you are gonna be spending alot on gpu too. intel really isnt worth it until you start getting into 2080s territory

fading acorn
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yeah i’d wanna upgrade cpu n gpu

desert gulch
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you are on amd mobo right?

plush silo
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Anybody have the razer nommo pro?

little osprey
little osprey
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Anyone have any experience with the asus tuf gaming MB

spiral zealot
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whoever was just asking about the case in build-pics, it's the Corsair 275R

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the messages got deleted before i could catch the name

exotic marten
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@little osprey did you initialize it in windows so you can use it?

little osprey
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I already downloaded windows

desert gulch
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Not that

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You gotta format it

exotic marten
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@little osprey so what's the issue

desert gulch
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And create partitions

little osprey
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Its not going back to the desktop its just error after error and now stuck in a boot loop

exotic marten
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After you installed windows? You just have the one hdd in there?

desert gulch
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Is the HDD empty?

exotic marten
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Is it set to ACHI?

desert gulch
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And what is your boot order?

exotic marten
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Yeah you got partitions?

little osprey
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The hdd is not empty

desert gulch
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What is your boot order

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Cuz it could be trying to boot off the hdd

exotic marten
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What else is on the drive

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Like how you got the setup? SSD for windows then hdd for everything else?

little osprey
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Games windows and other game things photos

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No i was using a laptop hdd then just got a new hdd desktop

exotic marten
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So you got one hdd now with a fresh windows on it correct?

little osprey
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The laptop one had windows in it

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No

exotic marten
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You're confusing

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So laptop hdd is boot drive?

little osprey
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The desktop hdd is sending me to bios and its clean the laptop hdd is in boot loop but the laptop one is with windows and everything

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Yes

exotic marten
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So like Ryan said what is the boot order of the drives?

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Could it be trying to boot to the new drive instead of the laptop drive?

desert gulch
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Go into bios to see

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That's what I'm thinking

little osprey
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Im trying but the desktop is not detected

exotic marten
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What do you mean? Bios is not part of windows

little osprey
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And error and back to bios

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The desktop hdd not detected

exotic marten
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Yeah just restart tab del f12 f8 or whichever is your Mobo bios key

little osprey
exotic marten
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Yeah so you see where it says boot order num 1 set to your Ethernet adapter?

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It's trying to pxe boot right meow so you need to change to the laptop hdd

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You can prob turn off lan pxe boot option too as you don't need that at home

little osprey
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Where does it say boot order

exotic marten
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Boot option is same as boot order

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Boot option number 1

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Double click on realtek

little osprey
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1 is the new desktop hdd 2 was laptop hdd

exotic marten
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So don't enable number 2. You just want to boot to the laptop hdd so change number 1 to laptop hdd

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Take pic before you exit

little osprey
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So should i disable the desktop hdd

round river
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is it a good time to buy a CPU cooler?

exotic marten
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You can if there is an option

little osprey
exotic marten
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Yeah turn the realtek to disabled

little osprey
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So what now its disable

exotic marten
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So you sure the windows boot manager is the laptop hdd correct?

little osprey
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Yeah it was then it got in a boot loop

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Should i save and exit

exotic marten
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So try to save and exit and see what happens

little osprey
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Ok il record it

exotic marten
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After blue screen it just restarts?

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Did the windows logo come up?

little osprey
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After blue screen it repeats the thing in vid turns of

exotic marten
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Maybe it died?

little osprey
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It turns on gigabyte logo and off and again

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It was working perfectly fine before I tried to connect a gpu

exotic marten
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Try unplugging the other hard drive and go back in bios and make sure it's on the laptop hdd again

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Then try again

little osprey
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Then I download driver and gose in recovery mode and boot loop

exotic marten
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Is the GPU hooked up properly?

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What is GPU and PSU?

little osprey
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Its a GeForce gtx 460

exotic marten
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PSU?

little osprey
exotic marten
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When it goes to recovery mode and you hit continue to windows what happens?

little osprey
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It Goes out of it back to boot loop

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The one that says 298.0gb is desktop hdd the other one is laptop one

exotic marten
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You don't need to be in raid mode

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Something isn't right or something is dead it seems like

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Do you have another GPU to try?

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Or try to reinstall windows on laptop hdd

little osprey
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I don’t have any other gpu and i dont have a different pc to do that

exotic marten
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What cpu you got

little osprey
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Intel pentium gold g5400

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4g ram

exotic marten
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Do you have a video connection on the motherboard?

little osprey
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At the moment it looks like this the mother board has built in gpu

exotic marten
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Did you take the GPU out?

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Try and boot with the GPU taken out and the monitor hooked to the motherboard

little osprey
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It was like that when i was trying to boot

exotic marten
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I feel like something is dying or windows install has become corrupt

plush wigeon
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So I'm looking into getting my first gaming pc and I found a few that (since i am new to this whole thing) I would like to have their specs rated for their price and which one would be best. I will copy&paste their specs and prices.

exotic marten
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I had severe boot loops a couple months ago and it turned out to be a dying cpu. Never seen that before and wound up making a new pc basically just trying to figure out the issue

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What is their specs rated for their price

plush wigeon
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This one is $999.99

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER - 500GB SSD

exotic marten
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@little osprey try a fresh windows install if you can with just the laptop hdd installed no other drives

desert gulch
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Your looking at prebuitls?

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Better to build your own

exotic marten
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Not always depending on price

desert gulch
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Unless your gonna spend 2k

little osprey
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The laptop one just goes in boot loop i think il try getting a pre installed windows in a hdd or ssd

plush wigeon
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This one is $999
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Processor
16GB Memory NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6GB Graphics 240GB SSD, 1TB HD

exotic marten
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Honestly 500 to 700 you might be able to find a good deal at bestbuy or something

rich void
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Well at a glance getting a 3700x and more storage for the same price is better all things being equal (which they may not be)

desert gulch
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But less gpu

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It's a non super

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And we don't know what speed ram is

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What psu it is

rich void
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Ah true, overlooked that, good point

desert gulch
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What case it us

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What Mobo it is

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All important things

rich void
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Yeah, as I said all things aren't equal. Quality of warranty support could vary a LOT too. If you are buying a prebuilt quality of support is important

plush wigeon
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This one seems like it might be good. $949

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - 16GB Memory - AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT - 1TB HDD + 500GB SSD
According to the more in depth specs ram is 3000mHz crucial ballistic, and Asus prime b550M-a is the mobo. The case I'll show an image of it when I can post pictures

little osprey
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Does anyone know where i can get a pre instal windows on a hdd or ssd

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Or anything like that

plush wigeon
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Where can I post pics? The rules seem to say I cant post any pictures unless I own said pic

little osprey
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Go in the image thin lm the left corner of text box

spiral zealot
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you can post pics of your rig in #build-pics , otherwise you can't post links/pics in any other channel until you hit level 3

tropic marlin
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does anyone know any good cheap gaming pcs

little osprey
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Well I built my for under 700$

spiral zealot
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cheap is relative, what's your budget and are you looking for prebuilt, or build it yourself?

tropic marlin
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either would work for me and like under 600 probably

little osprey
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I can give u what I built its pretty good

exotic marten
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@little osprey they don't sell preimaged hdd's or ssd's

little osprey
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Dam it

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So i need a usb with it on

exotic marten
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How did you get windows in the first place

little osprey
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I used the one on laptop i just took out the one from laptop

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How do i stop a boot loop

exotic marten
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You can get windows on a USB now a days from Microsoft's website. It's called the Media Creation Tool but you need to put a key in to activate

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I bet now that you say that the windows install is the issue. You took it from the laptop and now you want to boot in another computer and it doesnt have the right drivers.

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It's using the old laptop drivers instead of trying to install the new drivers

little osprey
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No i when I built my pc i took my laptop apart to get the hdd out i have bin using that for 2 months untill now

exotic marten
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The laptop might have the windows serial key on the bottom

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Don't know dude might be dead like I was saying

little osprey
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Yeah it might

exotic marten
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Put your ear to it and see if it's making a clicking noise

little osprey
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No

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No noise

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So how much is one usb

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Should i take part the laptop hdd to see if its fine

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Or is that a rely dumb idae

unkempt ibex
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I need help with some cords

little osprey
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How it looks like

unkempt ibex
little osprey
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Um really blurry try again

unkempt ibex
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That’s from the power supply I think it’s a fan header do I plug it into one?

little osprey
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Send one more but less blur

unkempt ibex
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It’s gunna be blurry it’s a 4 pin cable

tender swallow
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I’m mad I’m to broke to afford one

little osprey
unkempt ibex
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Yeah that one

little osprey
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I dont think u need to plug in

unkempt ibex
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Okay

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Dude I’m so confused my PCs not turning on I’m so consumed

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Confused

little osprey
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Show me this

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And use flash

spiral zealot
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yeah, the front panel connectors might be switched around

unkempt ibex
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I think they are I don’t know u want another picture?

spiral zealot
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if you check your MB manual it will tell you which pins are for the power switch, you can short them with a screwdriver and make sure the system starts up

little osprey
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Yeah

spiral zealot
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if it does, then you can connect the front panel headers and try again

little osprey
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Send how u set them up

unkempt ibex
little osprey
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Is there only those ones ore is there more

unkempt ibex
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There’s only those

spiral zealot
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what motherboard do you have?

unkempt ibex
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Msi mpg z390 gaming edge ac

little osprey
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It might be the power one

unkempt ibex
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There’s a cord called power sw

little osprey
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Dose it show how it hose on the under the cables

spiral zealot
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move the power sw up

little osprey
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Goes

spiral zealot
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to the 2 pins above it

little osprey
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Yeah thats what the problem i think

spiral zealot
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from the manual for your board

unkempt ibex
little osprey
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Wht u got ander power led is it hd

spiral zealot
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the power sw should be on the 2 pins next to the power LED ones

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so it should be Pwr LED - Pwr LED - Power Sw - missing pin

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and then the 2 HDD LED pins underneath the power LED pins

little osprey
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And under power led is hd and under power sw is reset

unkempt ibex
little osprey
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Move the power sw up one

spiral zealot
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yeah it should be on the 2 pins that are right above it in that pic

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everything else looks fine

unkempt ibex
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LETS GO

little osprey
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It worked

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Take a pic of the whole board

unkempt ibex
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Can u help me with the rgb lmao

barren flint
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Yo do you guys think I could add a motherboard with all that graphics cards and the cpu you and all that to a all in one desktop?

little osprey
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What exactly do u need help with

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How much was the cpu cooler

stoic island
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@unkempt ibex you're gonna have to use MSI mystic lights for mobo rgb

unkempt ibex
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Oh okay so if my cpu cooler and my front fans arnt in sync mystic light will make it? #

stoic island
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where exactly is there rgb on your cpu cooler lol

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and fans depends on the case

spiral zealot
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i'm betting the CM logo is rgb

little osprey
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@exotic marten hey remember when u ask (is it set to ACHI ) is AHCI the same thing because i have that

spiral zealot
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and any rad fans

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did the cooler and radiator fans have 2 cables that came off them? one for fan headers, and another cable with a 3 pin connector?

exotic marten
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@little osprey yes typed too fast

little osprey
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Oh good il set that

olive kraken
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Hey guys, quick question. Would you OC an "office" PC?

I'm basically building some PCs for my workspace but the PCs themselves will be used by teens. They will be streaming and playing games mostly.

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I just don't think, a 15 yo learning about computers and streaming for the first time on a PC will gain anything major from OC. And since I dont know how the maintenance will be

spiral zealot
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For longevity, I wouldn't.

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If someone is curious what it means and how to do it, it's a great learning experience to learn how to dial in multipliers and bus speeds and voltage and all that. But I wouldn't run any of them OC'd full time.

olive kraken
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That was my exact thought. Because my boss seems to be really excited about PCs but he's doesn't really understand them as much as I'd like

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@spiral zealot thx

spiral zealot
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You could always designate one of the machines the OC test bench, heh. If anyone wants to learn about it, they can use that machine and pull up a GamersNexus video or something like that and take notes, make some changes, etc. That way if a machine does crap out, it's limited to that specific one.

olive kraken
#

That makes a lot of sense, I'll speak to him about it

little osprey
#

@exotic marten it didn’t work

#

But it did something

#

Instead of having one laptop hdd option it was 2 same thing but split one Doesn’t have windows boot manager second one dose

exotic marten
#

Did you try with no other drives enabled

little osprey
#

Not yet

#

Witch one the one with boot manager or witout

#

Because with out it dose a random thing not a boot loop tho it makes the screen black and with boot loop

little osprey
#

@little osprey what specs

#

Does your PC have

#

AMD Ryzen 5 2400G with Radeon Vega Graphics 3.60

#

sorry i didnt mean to send yet

#

Do you have a dedicated gpu?

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3.60 GHz 8 GB ram64 bit with a 1060evga geforce graphics card

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Ok ok

still roostBOT
#
Duckie_21#4307 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

little osprey
#

?

#

*** i spent 1000$ on this because i didnt know anything about computers lol

#

Bruh

#

yeah lmao

#

big F for me

#

First thing you need to do is get more/faster ram imo

#

alrighty what should i go with because probably with any money i get from Christmas ill be upgrading then ( im 16)

#

Get a ripjaws 16GB 3200mhz kit

#

alright ill write that down

sand falcon
#

That might not be the cheapest though by the time christmas roles around

little osprey
#

i was thinking of getting the EVGA rtx 2060 super as a upgrade from what i have but i heard that i have to see if its compatable with my motherboard?

#

and yeah i agree so ill probably wait till its onsale afterwards

#

Get 3000 series if you're waiting for Christmas

sand falcon
#

What motherboard do you have?

little osprey
#

^

#

It will most likely be compatible

sand falcon
#

If it wasn't that would be super weird

little osprey
#

Yeah

#

i have absolutely no clue lol

#

He already has a 1060 in it though@sand falcon

#

So I figure it will work

sand falcon
#

Yeah

little osprey
#

do i need to upgrade my cpu?

sand falcon
#

No

little osprey
#

alright thank you everyone for your help

little osprey
#

I need a feedback on my build

lyric thistle
#

Maybe a fancy figure

little osprey
#

I had thoughts of getting a fractal design meshify s2

maiden idol
#

It just doesn't feel done.
@little osprey Wow

little osprey
#

I still like the looks of this system when I had my RX-580 in here

#

my 2070 super destroys the 580 though

lyric thistle
#

Heatpipes 👀

little osprey
#

now that 580 is in my FX system XD

#

if I paired the 580 with my FX 9590 I wonder what would happen :?

lyric thistle
#

Stuff

#

And things 😉

little osprey
#

My FX system isn't done yet though

#

I just got to get the 24 pin cable in

#

sometime in the next week or two

#

I think I have some old photos of my FX build

#

My new room is horrible compared to my old room.

lyric thistle
#

Cool

little osprey
#

For this how old do i have to be

#

Nm

safe field
#

Need some help troubleshooting my build

#

If y'all could take a look, it would be much appreciated

little osprey
#

My friend is buying a prebuilt pc how do I stop him? 😭

#

😂

safe field
#

@little osprey technically violence would work but we do not condone that here

little osprey
#

👀

#

We can keep it a secret maybe

lyric thistle
#

Oh no

little osprey
#

He's buying a prebuilt pc that comes with an i-7 processor which I would assume is an older gen and some graphics card that he claims can run rtx but it isn't an rtx card for about $700 he said

sand falcon
#

@little osprey offer to build him a custom PC at price

little osprey
#

I wish 😂 I've told him that I have a buddy that would help him

#

But he says he wants a prebuilt and that he'll upgrade it himself 🤷‍♂️

sand falcon
#

He knows that prebuilts aren't always easily upgradable?

little osprey
#

Yes

#

But he claims he can do it

#

So idk tbh 😂

#

I've never built a PC but I knew buying a prebuilt was bad

spiral shore
#

Curious if someone can help me figure out where i need to upgrade my pc to do dual video output? I put together a real cheap pc for minecraft with my gf, drawing and just doing basic computer stuff but looks like my oc currently has only 1 video output (HDMI) but was hoping to do dual so i can pull up reference images as my graphics tablet is a monitor so it takes HDMI as well

#

Will a GPU help or am i looking at a new motherboard?

#

Ain't looking to put too much in as im no gamer either

viral ore
#

you want to connect two monitors to your pc?

spiral shore
#

Yup

viral ore
#

what kind of pc do you have rn

spiral shore
#

I have a monitor graphics tablet and a regular old viewsonic i just bought

viral ore
#

is it just a prebuilt, or did you build it yourself?

spiral shore
#

Built it myself

viral ore
#

so does it have a dedicated graphics card?

spiral shore
#

I believe the graphics is supposed to be built into the motherboard

#

Like i said, cheaper build

viral ore
#

can you take a pic of the rear of your pc?

spiral shore
viral ore
#

so theres a used HDMI, and above it there is a DP

#

you can use that to run a display

little osprey
#

My friend just said all prebuilt pc's are upgradable steveconfused

lyric thistle
#

:(

sand falcon
#

NOOO

#

Raspberry pi is prebuilt pc

lyric thistle
#

My E450 is completely locked down :)

little osprey
#

How do I download windows on a desktop hdd that’s completely empty

lyric thistle
#

No upgrade path

little osprey
#

How long do prebuilts tend to last? A year?

spiral shore
#

What kinda cord would i be looking at running through that then?

lyric thistle
#

Look up Compaq CQ2024 and show that to your friend lol

spiral shore
#

Also oof, when i told my dad my budget he suggest a prebuilt and i was like
No

sand falcon
#

Depends on the prebuilt

spiral shore
#

I can always upgrade mine

viral ore
#

a displayport cable

sand falcon
#

Some die within a week, but I've got a 25yo or so still trucking

viral ore
#

but make sure your monitor can use one

spiral shore
#

Plus mine has to coolest rainbows 😎

#

Ill be sure to check

little osprey
#

Ion know I'ma look forward to the day he rages and says he wishes he built his own

spiral shore
#

No displayport on the monitor but im guessing a displayport to HDMI might do the trick?

viral ore
#

yeah

#

its all just a digital signal

unborn solstice
#

eh

viral ore
#

for his purposes, its fine

unborn solstice
#

a lot of hdmi caps fps

viral ore
#

hes not even gaming

#

so

unborn solstice
#

oh ok

viral ore
#

for his purposes, its just a digital signal

little osprey
#

Oh God

#

@sand falcon this the one he buying

#

Ryzen 3 at $600 😭

viral ore
#

well

#

for 600, im not gonna say its great

little osprey
#

Yea

viral ore
#

but considering its all new parts, its not bad

sand falcon
#

It's cheap

viral ore
#

i would rather get a used 570 for like 90 bux tho lmao

sand falcon
#

You're gonna want to upgrade pretty much everything in there though

little osprey
#

I don't like cyberpower or iBuypower their builds look to cheap tbh

#

Fr tho @sand falcon

spiral shore
#

Thanks a ton man

#

My dad's a little old school so he doesn't know everything. Also like i said im not too torn on graphics and the likes. The heaviest games I'm doing are minecraft lol

#

Also my from scratch build was 600 on the nose but half the specs are twice that of those on that prebuilt

#

My dad helped me piece it but was easy as pie

little osprey
#

"Also my from scratch build was 600 on the nose but half the specs are twice that of those on that prebuilt" LOL @spiral shore

spiral shore
#

At that point you're just paying for someone to put it together and for some fancy lights that matcg

little osprey
#

Honestly

spiral shore
#

Mine has a RGB motherboard and ram though so mine's got bling too

lyric thistle
#

Minecraft gang

little osprey
#

These companies lure you in with the fancy rgb

#

But in all reality it is really bad

spiral shore
#

Yup

#

Rgb ain't too hard to find these days either

little osprey
#

I can only imagine wut the back panel looks like with wire management

spiral shore
#

Pretty much any part you want they got an RGB version of
Or if you don't like that buy some light strips off amazon for $20

lyric thistle
#

Probably adequate

spiral shore
#

I still gotta buy puck lights since my apartment came with a shelf but also my junk wont fit on them so i gotta get a 2x3 cube organizer

#

Im gonna have the gayest damn room you ever did see

#

Rgb puck lights

little osprey
#

Lol

spiral shore
#

Bone disco time

little osprey
#

Anyway I gotta head out gotta wake up in about 7 hours for school lol

#

Talk to u later @spiral shore

spiral shore
#

Oof fair enough

#

Sleep well

little osprey
#

Hopefully we can pick up on our conversation tomorrow 😂

spiral shore
#

Fair enough

safe field
viral ore
#

idk could be a bios config or the cards vbios

#

the card might have a mining bios on it

#

just because the system has a GPU installed doesn't mean it will use it to display

#

check the card for a physical vbios switch

#

I assume this is your reddit post

jade junco
#

@austere condor how do you make these PCs for so cheap? Are you buying old parts somewhere?

austere condor
#

yep

#

that latest PC i posted i didnt pay for

#

someone paid me to build it for them

jade junco
#

Huh, eBay?

round river
#

can someone explain why a white version of a cpu cooler is more expensive

lyric thistle
#

Apple

#

Wait no

#

Dell

#

Acer?

little osprey
#

Because white isn't a PC part color standard, factory's have to go out of their way to produce white versions, same reason black used to cost a premium

#

But now everything is black standard so it's not costly anymore

#

Also pro tip, don't ask Reddit for help, for anything, ever xD

stoic island
#

Reddit will tell you to get tomahawk max

#

Because best board

winter light
#

I'm looking for help finding a good mid ranged reasonably priced laptop to begin game development. Is there anybody here willing to help be?

wary geode
#

ki

flat fern
#

@winter light what is a reasonable price?

winter light
#

I'm willing to spend about 700 - 800

little osprey
#

Hello

wary geode
#

hello

flat fern
#

@winter light try to search with 1650 ti and 16gb ram

winter light
#

@DrPaashaas thank you. I will do that

exotic yarrow
#

Can anyone assist me with windows install on a asus rog strix B450-F. I installed windows with a usb the pc rebooted now I have an error. I cant send pictures yet or I would post it

lusty dirge
#

can acer nitro 5 run new games such as cyberpunk 2077 and vampire the masquerades?

crude glen
#

Ryzen 5 3600, RX580, 500GB SSD with old 1TB HDD, 16GB ram

#

650W PSU

#

ive been told to wait for new ryzen and to get 1660 super

#

should i?

errant berry
#

idk the specs for the new ryzen

#

imo go for the 1660s tho

#

maybe the 1660 ti if you can

foggy hazel
#

@crude glen do you need a machine "right now"?

crude glen
#

nope

#

@foggy hazel

#

I just wanna get the parts preped

foggy hazel
#

this might sound weird, dont worry about it until you are 2-3 weeks away from actually ordering.

errant berry
#

true

crude glen
#

Ive just got £112 on amazon so i wanted to use it to get parts

foggy hazel
#

save it

errant berry
#

mhm

foggy hazel
#

i am very serious about that

crude glen
#

I could re use my case and HDD

foggy hazel
#

you will get better value from saving that money for now

crude glen
#

Till black friday?

#

idk if cyber monday or black friday is better

foggy hazel
#

neither

#

you will be waiting until you have the money to build a machine.

crude glen
#

I have £300 rn

#

Im selling 2 fallout 4 special editions and an xbox one for about £250 at best so will it be enough?

foggy hazel
#

3 minutes ago you had 112£

crude glen
#

Ill add up what i have

#

£112 on amazon

foggy hazel
#

why are you in such a rush?

crude glen
#

Im not

foggy hazel
#

you said yourself that you dont need the machine now

#

then save up the money

crude glen
#

I just wanna sell my xbox b4 the series x comes out

foggy hazel
#

it wont hurt you to have it in a account :)

crude glen
#

because the price will drop alot

jagged dock
#

Hey @crude glen you have to be a weeb right?

crude glen
#

Yes

#

@jagged dock

jagged dock
#

Nice

crude glen
#

Why

#

You have to have a reason for tagging me

jagged dock
#

No, just wanted to know

stoic island
#

..

rich void
#

@crude glen if you want to sell the Xbox do it, then stick the money in an account as Naed said and wait to buy all the parts at once

foggy hazel
#

@fickle sail love the weathering on the front panel

fickle sail
#

@foggy hazel thanks man. Lots of hours into that thing. The entire case minus the glass itself is distressed

foggy hazel
#

nifty!

little osprey
#

Are all disk readers loud?

foggy hazel
#

@fickle sail do you have a side on photo of the back panel (basically the first photo, but straight on the panel instead of angled)

#

@little osprey context is a good thing :)

#

so with that in mind, what do you actually mean by that question?

little osprey
#

I put in a driver disk and it sound like a helicopter is flying right over my house

foggy hazel
#

you are talking about a cdrom/dvd drive?

little osprey
#

Yes

foggy hazel
#

some of them are fairly loud yes

#

but not all of them

little osprey
#

Mines a huge brick one

foggy hazel
#

the external usb based ones that are normally used with laptops are generally quiet

little osprey
#

Just bought it from a mom and pop shop

#

It's an internal sata brick

#

I'd take a picture, but it's plugged in and being used

foggy hazel
#

no need.

#

my statement above does not need a picture from you :)

little osprey
#

Ok

little osprey
#

I'm looking to get a full mod psu, but I'm wanting to buy from local stores. There's one where the only full mod they carry is 1200w and higher. The 1200w is around 100$, I'm running 500w rn. Is there a downside to getting the 1200w?

desert gulch
#

It may be bigger

#

And longer

#

Check the tier of it

#

And effiency rating if you really care

#

@little osprey

little osprey
#

@desert gulch I have a thermaltake smart 500W

#

From what I'm told, can't get much worse

#

But it was some EVGA psu

desert gulch
#

Check the tier of it

#

Should be a, b, etc

#

A+ is the best

#

Is it a longer psu?

#

Cause you could have problems fitting it in your case if it is

little osprey
#

I have room for a longer one, and idk not at the store rn

next kestrel
#

1200w evga seems p good

little leaf
#

@little osprey what system is using 1200 watts

desert gulch
#

3090

#

jk

#

i think he just wants to future proof

#

and with it being a good price...

#

hes asking why not

little leaf
#

I don’t think there is any personal system needs 1200

#

Watts

desert gulch
#

but if its a good deal

#

who knows

#

10 years down the line

exotic marten
#

1200w for $100 bucks?? What is it?

little osprey
#

Evga

#

@exotic marten

exotic marten
#

What efficiency rating

little osprey
#

I didn't look/ask for specific model and such. I believe it was gold

#

80+ gold

exotic marten
#

Dam 1200 gold good deal

#

Don't know about longetivity on EVGA psus but I know seasonics be goin forever

little osprey
#

@desert gulch nah, not future proofing. Just need a full modular psu and trying to go local seller

plain cloak
#

I'm currently trying to look at 2 air coolers for my CPU, for when I overclock my system, and I'm having issues figuring out whether or not they clear the heatsinks on my 4 Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 RAM sticks. (the coolers in question are the Noctua NH-D15 Chromax.Black, and be quiet's Dark Rock Pro 4)

Can anyone help me with this issue, please?

stoic island
#

@plain cloak both would have second fan interfering with ram sticks on standard config

#

depending on case clearance you can move the fan

#

you can also get options such as the NH-D15s, which is the same cooler except without the second fan that interferes with the ram sticks

plain cloak
#

yeah, I was looking into an NH-D15 for that reason, cause someone told me about it

stoic island
plain cloak
#

but I still don't know if that'd clear my RAM

stoic island
#

and Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro is 51mm tall according to hexus

#

on the NH-D15s it would have no problem as without the second fan, there is 64mm of clearance

#

but on the DRP4 there is only ~47mm of clearance on the DRP4 even without the second fan

plain cloak
#

so the NH-D15 would clear it without the front fan

stoic island
#

And the NH-D15s is a variant without the front fan

#

so I think that's a good idea

plain cloak
#

ok, what about the DRP4 without the front fan

stoic island
#

Doesn't clear

plain cloak
#

ok

stoic island
#

only ~47mm

#

when the ram is 51mm

plain cloak
#

would taking the front fan off the NH-D15 have any negative impact on cooling my CPU if I was to OC it?

stoic island
#

I mean why not a d15s, saves you 10$ if you don't need the front fan xD

#

ofc it'll take some cooling off but it'll still be good

deep skiff
#

or u could get the u12a

stoic island
#

u12a be even more expensive

#

usually 100$ :(

#

also smaller heatsink

deep skiff
#

it looks good tho+ a12x25

plain cloak
#

looking for something black btw, as it'll match my build better lol

stoic island
#

icky

#

I like ma perf better than ma looks

#

try an arctic freezer ii then?

plain cloak
#

that's an AIO, right

#

wait hold up

#

the front fan on the NH-D15 is a 140mm, right?

#

cause if so.. couldn't I just replace that 140mm with a 120mm, and just raise the 120mm up a little, so it clears the RAM's heatsinks?

stoic island
#

no

#

you do remember noctua fans are mostly beige right?

#

anyways, it's a 150mm fan, hence the "nf-a15"

plain cloak
#

I'm talking about the NH-D15 Chromax.Black fans lol

#

yeah it has 140mm fans on it

robust plover
#

What are the minimum specs for streaming

analog hearth
#

Mmm

stoic island
#

yea

#

the fans on that is the "nf-a15"

#

I have a NH-D15

plain cloak
#

yeah

#

and I believe the page for it said you could put 120mm fans on it

stoic island
#

afaik the mounting is for 140mm

#

don't quite remember

#

that's the a15

deep skiff
#

u can mount a 140x140, 140x150, or 120x120

plain cloak
#

so I CAN mount 120mm fans on it

deep skiff
#

yeah

#

140x150x25 (with 120mm mounting holes), 140x140x25 (with 120mm mounting holes), 120x120x25

plain cloak
#

aight

#

@stoic island You said the fans are the "NF-A15" fans, right?

stoic island
#

ya

plain cloak
#

I wonder if I could put a 120mm black fan on the front, then move that 140mm to the back..

#

(btw I have an MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk as my motherboard)

#

(so I can only hope that cooler will fit... lol)

stoic island
#

mobo and cpu cooler usually don't have compatibility issues

plain cloak
#

ok

stoic island
#

I have a D15 slapped on a MSI B450 gaming pro carbon ac

little leaf
#

Ram clearence

#

And case clearence

#

Is what you have to worry about when using new cooler

plain cloak
#

but would the NH-D15 Chromax.Black fit on my board with the front 140mm fan moved to the back of the cooler without hitting the massive heatsink on the board's I/O?

buoyant flame
#

Did you get that i3 10100 from microcenter today? @wary geode

little leaf
#

Check the case clearence

stoic island
#

No

plain cloak
#

the case wouldn't be an issue, I'm just wanting to make sure the cooler with the front fan on the back will fit

stoic island
#

It will hit

#

I did it on mine

#

I think the tomahawk has a bigger heatsink than my pro carbon ac

#

My fan moved to the back is like up right against the acrylic side panel from standing on vrm

#

@plain cloak what case?

plain cloak
#

Lian Li's Lancool II

stoic island
#

you'll have a bit more space than I did

#

You should be able to do it and move the fan to the back

plain cloak
#

ok.. so my motherboard should allow that?

stoic island
#

you see how the back fan is nudged up like 8cm

#

by the VRM heatsink

#

your case has a higher listed case clearance for CPU coolers than mine

#

Mine barely fits basically

plain cloak
#

well Ik, but I mean if that huge heatsink on the back of my board will allow it to fit

stoic island
#

lemme get you a side-by-side

buoyant flame
#

Still got dat neo Chef_Kiss

robust plover
#

What are the minimum specs for streaming

stoic island
#

depends on the game

oak anvil
#

Pretty good

stoic island
#

@plain cloak since both heatsinks are about as tall as io shield, I'll just show io shields, tomahawk:

#

but they're pretty similar sized

#

it should work

plain cloak
#

ok.. so that won't be an issue if I put the front 140mm fan on the back, then put a 120mm on the front in the place of the 140mm

stoic island
#

??

#

why do you need a 120mm

#

you're just moving the front fan to the back

#

@plain cloak I mean if you want 3 fans stuck on there ig you could?

#

but anyways do remember moving the fan to the back is slightly bootleg

#

It doesn't tell you that you should do it, but it makes sense and fits sooo

plain cloak
#

.-. Ik that

still mesa
#

Hey

stoic island
#

ya

robust plover
#

Any were between 2.7 ghz the and 3.5 ghz for the games I want to stream

little leaf
#

@robust plover what games

robust plover
#

Will a 13 9100f work I have a budget of 650 for pc

little leaf
#

And what business

#

Budget

#

No

#

No

#

Stop lmao

#

For streaming no

stoic island
#

@robust plover don't just look at frequency lol

#

bulldozer could go 5ghz and not beat a stock 3600 at 4ghz lel

little leaf
#

J would use like a 3100-3600 and 1650s

stoic island
#

3100+1650s should work

little leaf
#

At your gmrange

#

Sould makr a list on molbile thoigh

stoic island
#

I can make one

#

I'm on laptop

robust plover
#

So can I get a good streaming pc for 650 dollars

little leaf
#

Decent enough

stoic island
#

without monitor

little leaf
#

Just set yiur expectations

robust plover
#

Yeah

#

Qhat is that

#

What

little leaf
#

A display

robust plover
#

If you dont mind could you send me a pc part picker list for a good 650 dollar streaming pc if you want

little leaf
#

Do you need monitor?

robust plover
#

8 have one

#

I

stoic island
robust plover
#

Thanks what about the compatible issue

stoic island
#

pcpp being dumb with bios update

robust plover
#

You sure

stoic island
#

Yes

#

The time that warning would be relevant is about a year ago

#

as long as you're not buying a used board someone bought from more than a year ago and never updated bios on

#

it's gonna have F40 or higher

robust plover
#

Ok do I need a 2tb hdd

stoic island
#

it's nice to have

#

if you want to record vod to store somewhere

#

or get some big boi games

#

like MW at like 200gb

robust plover
#

Ok sorry for so many questions what is a good streaming software

little leaf
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Stream labs obs

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Very good

stoic island
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Yea

little leaf
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Easy setuo

stoic island
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if you want something really low-effort, the Nvidia built in thing that comes with Nvidia experience

nova axle
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What size screw driver do u need to bulid a pc

stoic island
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it's good enough if you just want to have some fun streaming

robust plover
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Ok do I need to buy windows

stoic island
robust plover
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Is it safe

nova axle
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What size screw driver do I need to bulid a pc

stoic island
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I got mine from ebay

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I dunno, just get a few different sized bits @nova axle

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@foggy hazel can you answer about the specific screw sizes usually?

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Case screw sizes seem pretty standard across the board

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along with standoffs

nova axle
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I was told a #2 Philips head

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I just wanna make sure

stoic island
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there's some different sizes afaik

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but wait and see maybe Naed could answer

nova axle
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Okay thx

stoic island
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Naed is my go-to person for specific technical stuff ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I prob annoy him

oblique thistle
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can anyone help me i bought a hdd from newegg and it wont initialize i moved its sata ports 4 times and it still wont read it only my ssd works

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it says unknown on the disk management but on bios it recognizes it

robust plover
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The cpu is 130 on newegg

plain cloak
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Also.. what did you mean when you said "but anyways do remember moving the fan to the back is slightly bootleg," @stoic island

robust plover
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Never mind

stoic island
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Read what I wrote below that

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The manual doesn't tell you to do it, but it also works

plain cloak
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oh

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so it'll still be just as good as if I had it on the front

stoic island
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Should be

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People did testing with where they mounted both fans iirc, there was minimal difference as long as the fans were facing the right way

robust plover
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Do I need a m.2 ssd or can I got with a regular one

stoic island
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Either

plain cloak
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what would an additional 120mm fan in place of the front 140mm fan do? Wouldn't that increase airflow?

stoic island
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M.2 NVMe SSDs offer performance gains over SATA 2.5in SSDs. (Ofc m.2 SATA SSDs are about the same as 2.5in SATA)

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There is dimishing returns lol

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Can't stick 10 fans in a case and the cooling gain keeps going up

robust plover
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So I can go with a ssd

stoic island
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I'd suggest no because that might mess with the airflow

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@robust plover price wise it's making more and more sense to grab a m.2 SSD, and also easier to set up.

plain cloak
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ok

stoic island
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Esp a crucial P1/P2

little leaf
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Why not a 34

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Or sn750

stoic island
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Cheap

robust plover
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Ok

little leaf
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Isnt it on sale

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Sn759

stoic island
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If you're looking at SATA SSDs you're looking at p1p2 price range

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Like 60$ for 500gb

little leaf
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Its 66 for mp34

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Much better speeds

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For ljke 6 dollars

stoic island
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Diminishing returns again

little leaf
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Matters for me but guess not for most

stoic island
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2000mb/s to 3000mb/s read write is really hard to notice for the usual person

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Even for larger file transfers

robust plover
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@stoic island I appreciate it man thanks

little leaf
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I do file transfers in like 2-3tbs

finite juniper
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I ordered a cpu and they sent it to a different city lmao

stoic island
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Rip

little leaf
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Oof

stoic island
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Logistics systems are a mess

finite juniper
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Yup

foggy hazel
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@nova axle @stoic island #2 phillips works fine for you. As long as you are just doing a normal assembly

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and yes @stoic island, the screws are fairly standard nowadays

stoic island
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Alright thanks Naed, sorry if I got you at a bad time in your timezone

lapis portal
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can i put a funko figurine on top of my graphics card?

foggy hazel
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thank the many tentacled god of technicians that 5.25 drives are not really a thing anymore, because those had a tendency to come with fairly random sized screws

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@stoic island dont worry about it, you cannot force me to answer and i dont have discord audible on the phone :)

stoic island
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As long as it can withstand a decent temperature and doesn't really block airflow it should be fine afaik.

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Heh alright

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No idea how big your figurine is

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As long as it's not like stretching across your case

lapis portal
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just a standard funko of Chewbacca

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Going to throw him in there once put a different cpu cooler in

stoic island
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It chilling in there for a while for some pics should be fine, as long as it doesn't like melt at 100c or something

lapis portal
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Alrighty sounds good

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Thank you

stoic island
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Yw

high marsh
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so when I take out my usb flash drive and turn of my pc, it shows bios. I did everything i was just playing my game

nova axle
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@foggy hazel thx

near garden
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Is a gta 1060 6gb still good these days ?

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Gtx*

sage warren
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Anyone have suggestions for a $1000-1200 in canadian gaming set up(after tax) I’m Trynna get into pc gaming that’s why I’m join yin’s of giveaways and stuff

stoic island
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I'm asking if you need monitor/headset/keyboard/mouse or not

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:P

unborn solstice
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canadian dollars?

sage warren
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No

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Those are all fine

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Just the pic is what I’m concerned about

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Pc*

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Yeah canadian dollars

stoic island
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start off with that

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change some stuff around as you link

sage warren
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Ok thanks?

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Sorry didn’t mean the question mark

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I had a pc chosen already and wanna know how good it’d be and what I should tweak

stoic island
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1000cad should get you 3100+1660s with 2x8gb ram and 500gb of SSD storage as a mininum imo

sage warren
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Ok

stoic island
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I got 3600+1660s with 2x8gb ram and 500gb ssd+2tb hdd with a decent case and a good PSU

sage warren
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I can’t send a link to the pc part picker

stoic island
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1000$ pre tax

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send without https

sage warren
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Ok

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There’s no list code?

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Oh it pops up anyways

stoic island
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okay so um

fast dust
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mr1 how you draw on screenshots

stoic island
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I use lightshot

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it's just a simple thing for me as an alternative to snipping tool or sharex

sage warren
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Ahh ok

fast dust
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cant send links until ur level 3

stoic island
fast dust
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remove the https:// and itll work

stoic island
sage warren
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Here

stoic island
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First, that's in USD

sage warren
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Ik

stoic island
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and all the listed parts use US retailers

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prices are different in canada

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shipping is different

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anyways

sage warren
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Ok I’ll check on the cad site

keen moss
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@stoic island y u no use b550 mobo so you don’t have to flash the bios

stoic island
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1050ti is pretty last gen

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because you don't have to with b450 smh

fast dust
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B450 will come ryzen 3000 ready

stoic island
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b550 is just fancy stuff for 30usd more

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not worth for budget builds imo

keen moss
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ig

fast dust
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its like, difficult to find a b450 that doesnt support ryzen 3000 now
unless you get old stock

keen moss
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i got this terrible brown msi b450

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msi b450 pro max

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D:

sage warren
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ca..com/list/HyqyYH

stoic island
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that's my critique of that list

fast dust
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dude roasted 90% of the choices 😳

keen moss
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it’s a budget list right?

stoic island
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ya

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1000cad around 800usd

sage warren
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What would you recommend instead?

stoic island
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the list I sent earlier

keen moss
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“old part” lmao

stoic island
sage warren
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Ok

stoic island
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1050ti is 2 generations old

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about to be 3 generations old

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bad perf at that

sage warren
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What about a cooling fan?

vital warren
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ryzen 5 comes with one

keen moss
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you could get a cheaper 1660s at best buy or amazon

sage warren
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Ohhhhj

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You can see how new I am at pc

keen moss
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for like 230-240