#building-and-recc-chat

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sand falcon
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@little osprey Intel's no more stable than AMD. The main thing is that it's so much more expensive than AMD, that you can't get as good of a GPU

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Mind if I make some changes to that list?

latent storm
sand falcon
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Does your GPU not have a power connector?

viral ore
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nope

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it doesnt

sand falcon
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Okay, one of those 1050's

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Aweful big heatsink for such a low wattage card

viral ore
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yeah, 1050ti

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it has the pads for a 6 pin, but no 6 pin

sand falcon
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@versed dragon Can you DM me the link for the pcpartpicker list you posted?

latent storm
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it’s just an old placeholder for now

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hopefully it holds up

sand falcon
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Cool

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All seems to be in order

latent storm
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i’m looking and can’t see anything i could be missing

little osprey
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what does it mean by sticker

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for ducky

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keyboard

pseudo bluff
latent storm
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you can save a few bucks on the ram but other than that it looks good to me

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hello yes why am i idling at 54.5c

hushed crystal
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whats the best gpu to put in an optiplex

analog hearth
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@latent storm what is that pfp?

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I have absolutely no idea what I’m looking at

robust walrus
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yoo anyone get recommend me a budget pc?

potent prairie
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What budget? What purpose?

hushed crystal
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yoo anyone get recommend me a budget pc?
@robust walrus get an optiplex 9020 and put in a 1660 or a 1650, either way wouldnt recommend putting in a stronger gpu unless you have a stronger psu

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if you get a used one, including the gpu it should cost about 3 or $400

foggy hazel
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@stuck frigate have a look at number 9 in #rules

stuck frigate
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Sorry!

foggy hazel
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no worries, it just leads to things that are detrimental to the community tone (if that is allowed)

stuck frigate
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I understand haha, i wasnt even aware honestly LOL. Sorry again!

foggy hazel
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again, no worries :)

coarse coral
idle trellis
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Welp

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So much for that

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MSI MAG Z490 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA1200 Motherboard

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Can I do better than this when accompanied by a 10700k and 2080s

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What should I take into consideration regarding the motherboard

latent storm
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@latent storm what is that pfp?
@analog hearth cat

analog hearth
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Oh I’m blind

latent storm
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fat cat

little osprey
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what does double shot refer to?

Ducky One 2 RGB TKL RGB LED Double Shot PBT

Also with this keyboard is it possible to switch my switches? or no?

fast dust
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@hushed crystal depends on the CPU that comes with the optiplex. A GTX 1650 is usually a good choice cause it requires no external power, but if you were to replace the PSU you could get something better, but that would depend on the CPU. Powerful GPUs can bottleneck a weak CPU and vise versa. We’d want no bottleneck, a good fit.

mighty citrus
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howdy. I have a prebuilt machine and i'm looking to make some small upgrades. I think my system is bottlenecked in RAM. can I get some opinions from you friendly folk in here.

silk estuary
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Sure. Specs?

mighty citrus
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I can't post links or pictures

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so one sec

lime forge
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you dont seem like a troll

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ill give you perms

mighty citrus
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oh. thank you

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its a 2 slot DDR4 board.

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not sure if I should grab another 8GB or replace both with a 2 x 8GB.

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also considering buying another M.2 SSD for faster load time on games/apps I want to run

silk estuary
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@mighty citrus get 2x8 if possible

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Spreading out the load between two sticks is more effective

mighty citrus
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that's what i was leaning towards as well

silk estuary
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Or if you only need 8 go for 2x4, unless you plan on getting 16

mighty citrus
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well.. not sure if the bottleneck is the ram because it being 8GB or because of being a single stick

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since 2 x 8GB (16GB) is a fairly low cost upgrade, I figured I'd go for it. get rid of both variables

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OEM ram looks cheap in the case as well

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I don't need to worry about matching AMD RAM to AMD processors do I? that's a thing of the past isn't it?

silk estuary
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I mean

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I don't think it matters

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I never checked my ram for compat with ram and my corsair works fine

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I think it actually mentioned Intel, lmao

stoic island
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@mighty citrus try going for 3200mhz cl16 ram, also, G.skill aegis ram isn't OEM, it's consumer ram without a fancy heatsink

clever pike
stoic island
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why?

viral ore
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this list needs lots of work lol

stoic island
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that list is confusing to me

viral ore
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@velvet bramble

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it's his list

stoic island
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Sassy what's with the star

viral ore
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theo gave it to me ppclap

cursive wharf
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am doing it

mighty citrus
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@stoic island thanks. I'll try and find some RAM that fits my budget and at least 3200

cursive wharf
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@velvet bramble lotta changes need to be made, firstly are you okay with used parts?

stoic island
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It should just be like 5 cad more

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for Aegis 3200mhzcl16

viral ore
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oof, he offline

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he literally just asked us to post it

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@velvet bramble stare stare stare

stoic island
mighty citrus
stoic island
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Looks good

mighty citrus
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just unfortunate it ships from USA

stoic island
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oh lol

cursive wharf
velvet bramble
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@cursive wharf I don’t know

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Ok

stoic island
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BTW What's the use for 32gb of ram?

cursive wharf
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I'd also recommend waiting for Zen3 and RTX 3000 series

velvet bramble
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@cursive wharf could you try to find one with WiFi

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A motherboard

cursive wharf
velvet bramble
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Could you send one for me please

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I’m doing something so I don’t have time to look one up

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@cursive wharf

cursive wharf
velvet bramble
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Oh

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Th ask

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Wait @cursive wharf

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I don’t see it

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Think I’m blind

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I went through it twice

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But I still don’t see it

deep skiff
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its under custom at the bottom of the list

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above the rgb fans

velvet bramble
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I would send a screenshot

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But I can’t

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The thing above the fans is the os

deep skiff
velvet bramble
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Ok

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Thank you

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The website was glitched

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That’s why it didn’t show

little osprey
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My friend needs a good school and Gaming pc any suggestions?

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$800 budget

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Do like, a ryzen 4700g probably, get better GPU later

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Unless it's needed ASAP then like... a 3600 and 1660 super, I guess

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But that won't be considered "good" in gaming a month from now

fast dust
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uh, my 1600 AF and RX 570 is still "good" to me

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and that's worse than 3600 + 1660 s

little osprey
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Yeah but it won't be by the end of the year

fast dust
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i bet it will be

little osprey
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It will work well, but it will be considered lowest end basically

fast dust
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lowest end is pentium II

little osprey
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It's already lowest end

foggy hazel
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just because something faster comes out, does not make something actually obsolete.

fast dust
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exactly

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lots of people still use stuff like GTX 750 TIs

foggy hazel
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it takes a good long while for the lowest common to move up

little osprey
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Yeah I know, but it will be considered low end, not "good"

fast dust
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1080p 60 in most games medium-high settings is pretty good

foggy hazel
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only by people that watch too much tech reviews

little osprey
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Depend what anyone means by good I guess

fast dust
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but we have different definitions of good based on what the person thinks is good

little osprey
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But if you wanted to budget like that then I would suggest an used older i7 and a used 570, or 1060 if u stream

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Dell optiplex kinda thing

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That's a "good" low end machine for cheap, like really cheap, $250

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Considering doing it myself, could probably resell at full cost when I wanna get my new rig

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And pentium 2 is not lowest end, it's legit unusable lol.. games won't open, obs won't even open, it can't even watch twitch streams unless 360p mode, YouTube is like 720p max, 60fps? Slideshow

fast dust
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ok, well then, ENIAC for lewest end

little osprey
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Nvidia's current lowest end run of cards is the 1650 super, that is low end now

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Which is on par with the 570/1060

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Anything lower is lower then low end, and in like a month it will be considered like, 100% "last gen" tech, it will barely be relevant to newer games

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Games will be like, you have 6-8 gb of VRAM and no rtx? Do u even have SSD? Imminent shutdown lol

stoic island
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1650s beats 580 and loses to 1060

little osprey
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I'm exadurating but, yeah lol

stoic island
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wait nvm

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on par with 1060

fast dust
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3gb or 6gb

little osprey
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6

stoic island
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6

little osprey
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1060 is the new minimum spec benchmark for devs

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It's what most users have

stoic island
still roostBOT
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Old_SnakeTwitch#8147 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

little osprey
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Indie Games will probably shoot for 1050 minimum but yeah, it's all old news

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Either get a used i7 and 1060/570 or wait for the 4700g or at least wait for the new GPUs and get like, a 3000 series ryzen with whatever new GPU fits ur budget

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But the used system won't be relevant for games in a couple years

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Unless u don't mind lowest settings and fluctuating 60 fps

little osprey
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Best monitor for 1650?

viral ore
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1080p at whatever refresh rate you want

little osprey
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Noice

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Thanks

viral ore
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it can definetly run most games at 144 fps

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but that does depend on cpu

little osprey
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Well my friend is buying a prebuilt

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So I'm trying to find a monitor for him

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This is the pc he gonna buy

viral ore
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oh, i have a friend who owns this one

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its not bad, very small, good build quality

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but, and i am obligated by my conscience to say this, why doesn't he wanna build it himself?

vital warren
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it's a cool skill to learn while saving money in the process

little osprey
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What's the best tv monitor these days

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He says he needs it now but idk

thick gorge
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hey guys I have a 2600x and I'm planning on getting a 240mm aio for aesthetics and overclocking. Is this fine? Or is it a waste of money? lol Idk too much about cpu cooling stuff

little leaf
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@thick gorge waste

floral flare
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Looks nice

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Wow

little osprey
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Guys, how do i do an bios update

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Which folder do i download

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The bios too? Or can someone send me an asus tuf 570x tutorial

sand falcon
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@little osprey Is your PC malfunctioning?

stoic island
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(there are no reasons to do a bios update unless something is really wrong)

little osprey
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No, but when you first build you need to do a bios update? 🤔

stoic island
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No

little osprey
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Like after the build is finished

stoic island
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Never

little osprey
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So the bios comes preinstalled ?

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Ok great! Thanks! Also, lets say you just built your computer, what are the first things i should do?

stoic island
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You never update bios unless
A. there's a microcode update that fixes something that keeps messing you up
Or B. Need to update bios to be compatible with a new CPU

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Graphics card drivers

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Go to Nvidia or AMD and download the GPU drivers

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Because when you first boot up it'll likely be in like 720x520 resolution or smth, so get drivers to fix that

sand falcon
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^

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All you need to install for a working system is OS and the GPU driver

little osprey
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Ah

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And how do i know if thats what needs to happen, for example B.

sand falcon
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If you ever buy a 4000 series CPU

little osprey
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I just saw this message and after it, wifi lagging> Graphics card drivers
@stoic island

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If you ever buy a 4000 series CPU
@sand falcon i have ryzon 9 3950x

sand falcon
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Will you ever buy a 4950x?

little osprey
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Thats 50 more away from 4k series 😂

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Nah

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Never

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Because when you first boot up it'll likely be in like 720x520 resolution or smth, so get drivers to fix that
@stoic island ok so i need to install the gpu driver that i bought for my computer?

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My gpu is the evga 2080 something, with two fans

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And also i bought a nice screen,
Should i do anything to it? Do i need to add anything?

thick gorge
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If I buy an older dell optiplex and put in an rx 570 or something, will it be able to run games like fornite at 60fps?

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if so, can anyone reccommend me an optiplex model to try and find

stoic island
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no

little osprey
stoic island
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No, the GPU itself

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Nvidia RTX 2080

little osprey
stoic island
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damn you spent a lot on that

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CAD?

little osprey
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Its CAD

stoic island
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ah good

little osprey
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yeah 🙂

stoic island
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Basically for all the GPUs Nvidia/AMD made them and the AIBs just slapped a cooler on

little osprey
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So im a bit confused, the pic i sent, am I downloading the software for that?

stoic island
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Geforce experience is a software that lets you easily update drivers whenever new drivers comes out

little osprey
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Okay

stoic island
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(For Nvidia drivers)

little osprey
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So my question is, is this an nvidea driver?

unborn solstice
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yes

little osprey
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Okay

unborn solstice
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also i dont use geforce experience

little osprey
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And is there a specific driver i install for the 2080?

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(First time using windows)

unborn solstice
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if you go to your system info and click update driver it will find the right one

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device manager*

stoic island
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Geforce experience deals with it for you

little osprey
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Ah nice

stoic island
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It's just easy imo

little osprey
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Wait wait, is GeForce experience the name of the software?

stoic island
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Yea

little osprey
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Okay, but if i go to my driver and update itll do it for me though right?

stoic island
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ye go to drivers in the software and there'll be a big update button for you

📎 unknown.png
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mine is already up to date so no update button

little osprey
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Okay 👌

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Perfect

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Thanks

woven wedge
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I’m thinking about vertically mounting my gpu. Any reason not to from y’all experience?

spiral zealot
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only do it if you'll have enough room between the card and the case for proper airflow

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but otherwise, have fun

inland ridge
viral ore
spiral zealot
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big oof

grand lintel
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I’m having an issue with my pc. Would this be the place to ask a question

wary geode
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Yes

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@grand lintel

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Just ask I’ll help

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I’m prob the only awake at this time lol

grand lintel
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I pulled out my gpu to dust it off . Reinstalled it. No usb power or display . I’m guessing I ruined my mobo. I changed gpus out to a backup , changed ram. Nothing

wary geode
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Um

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Dang

grand lintel
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Thanks @wary geode have been up all night

wary geode
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😂

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No problem i gotchu i think I did this one time

grand lintel
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Just want to make sure I’m not missing anything

wary geode
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Yeah does it boot up at all

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Does the front power button work

grand lintel
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No no display. But all the lights are on and fans

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Yep

wary geode
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Ok that’s good

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What cpu and gpu

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Ram

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Did you over lock at all

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Psu?

grand lintel
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Ryzen 3600 with a Evga gtx1070sc and Corsair ram rgb pro

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Evga 550w bronze

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No overclock. I think...

wary geode
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Let’s take out the cmos battery just in case

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Or switch up ram slots

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Cause you prob oc ram and those slots weren’t ready to turn off it happened where I was suppose to put it in 2133 in another Pc

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@grand lintel

grand lintel
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I did take out the cmos battery and swapped ram slots

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I removed 3/4 ram sticks. And swapped out #1

wary geode
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Oh lol ok cool

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Good

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Let me know how it goes

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@grand lintel

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And ping me because I’m bad at responding

grand lintel
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Ok thanks will do

winged ridge
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Building and buying my new pc today any tips for an intel build around the $2000 mark with Oculus Rift S

buoyant flame
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Take your time

winged ridge
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been looking for a while

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saved money for the price point i want and my current laptop is extremely unreliable due to a firmware issue

cursive wharf
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make sure to get a 2080S or better before getting Intel

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if you cant afford a 10600K+2080S/2080Ti, then dont get Intel

rapid vapor
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I just bought all the parts for my first desktop and im gonna build it as soon as they get here

hybrid ether
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^

noble vapor
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My laptop is currently utilizing 8gb of ram with one chrome tab open and I'm a little worried. It's pretty capable and this is really unusual for it.

wise oak
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Need a list to build a pc powerful enough so when the gpu come out, all I do is swap it in . Is it a smart idea to that now or should I start looking for parts when the gpu's are released??
🙏

clever pike
foggy hazel
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@wise oak waiting is the sensible option.

fast dust
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@noble vapor you might have stuff running in the background. Open up task manager and see what’s running

noble vapor
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yeah I was looking at that and it's all pretty standard stuff like steam, discord, windows, and epic games but I didn't want to mess anything up by ending tasks

fast dust
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Something might be updating on steam or epic

noble vapor
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yeah that makes since thanks

sullen spoke
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Ahh i love troubleshooting pc

fast dust
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Yes

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Nope

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Can you not change it?

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Oh, mods must have changed it

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Oh dang. Sucks

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Talk a little to get regular role? Maybe you can the

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n

still roostBOT
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XMARK6 eatdatOOPS445, that command is disabled in this channel.

neon condor
odd copper
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Whats Kernal-Power event 41?

I've had it happen twice today and I don't know whats causing it.

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My limited research says it's probably related to a bad psu.

Does that mean I would need to replace it? Is there something else I can do to fix it? I really can't afford to buy a new psu right now.

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Would lowering frames or graphic quality help at all?

desert gulch
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What psu?

odd copper
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Corsair CXM 550W

desert gulch
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Cxms have problems

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Mainly coil whine

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How old is it?

odd copper
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I've only had it since November 2019

desert gulch
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I believe they have a 5 year warranty

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Or 3 year

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Where'd you buy it?

odd copper
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Either Newegg or Amazon. I'd have to go back and check my order history to see which.

fast dust
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They have 5 year

desert gulch
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RMA it

odd copper
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Oh nice. I'll do that then.

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Thanks

deep skiff
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yeah i'd probably rma it but coil whine shouldnt cause that

odd copper
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I haven't heard any coil whine, but I haven't really looked/listened for it.

desert gulch
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Cxms are notorious for it

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You may have just gotten lucky tho

odd copper
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I listened to some videos of coil whine and I think I got lucky with that, I haven't heard any coil whine so far.

deep skiff
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ya coil whine sucks because its really hard to drown out bc of the high pitch

bright phoenix
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Can someone please help me upgrade my dell optiplex 3010 to an amd cpu and cheap motherboard. First timer please help come to my server

buoyant flame
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So, I just finished putting together this build, and the gpu isn't displaying a signal. Any Ideas?

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Also, my peripherals don't seem to be getting power from the back of the mobo

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or the front io lol

fast dust
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probably mobo problem

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could be PSU tho i guess

buoyant flame
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not psu, psu posted on a different system

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Should of done a test bench...

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Idk why i didn't tbh, just being impatient

fast dust
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i like never do test bench. I need to start, cause it's wasted me a lot of time not doing it

buoyant flame
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Motherboard also has a yellow light on by the gpu, however I don't see anything in the manual as to what it indicates

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Motherboard is a asus b450m-a

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Gonna reseat ram and gpu ig

blazing igloo
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Friends graphics card (Red Devil 5700xt) causes the system, to black screen and then reboot any suggestions on how to try and fix or just use the warrenty

fast dust
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update drivers

blazing igloo
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dsrivers are already updated

fast dust
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hm

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could be PSU

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what PSU he got?

blazing igloo
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not psu, we tried my graphics card and it works fine

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its been tested in two systems same issue in both

fast dust
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overheating? have you checked temps

deep skiff
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id see if turning off xmp helps

blazing igloo
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it happens near start up of games like gta or after awhile of playing like valorant or other games

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doesnt always happen, its idled rn at 50c

outer rock
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When anyone gets a chance, I'd love some tips on getting the right PC for me. Unfamiliar with how to build so I was thinking of going the prebuilt route. feel free to DM me.

little osprey
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Ok guys, my PC is done, i just have to buy a mouse, im very picky when picking computer parts, i got the ducky keyboard, and about to buy a mouse.

As a noob to the pc world , from mac to PC. I wanted to know what are the top “50” (50 very loosly) things i should do right after I download windows on the cmptr

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Im going to install the nvidea graphics card. That was one thing i learned yesterday, any run down, or a website that has all the “check marks” i should go through?

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I want to also know what is the best way to configure my bios too, to a custome bios

foggy hazel
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read the manual and aside from XMP, leave the bios alone

little osprey
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XMP?

foggy hazel
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Read the manual

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that answers that

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hence why it is first :)

desert gulch
little leaf
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@buoyant flame this exact thinn happened to me

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I just rmaed board

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The yellow light is just for looks

buoyant flame
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Hmmm, I already had this board delayed by 12 days getting here and I would really hate to rma it. Thats a bummer

olive kraken
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Alright guys so, ik it isn't really related to chat but

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Y'all don't mind me posting some pics in the build pic chat of a little workspace we are creating for teens to play games and such right?

outer heart
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@olive kraken id love to see it

olive kraken
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Bet, I'll take some pics tommorow. But it's still on development. Cuz Shipping and stock has been rough so we don't have all PCs etc.

round raft
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i’m bulking a pc for the first time and i need a good psu if anyone could help

fast dust
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for what CPU+GPU?

round raft
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amd ryzen 3

fast dust
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ryzen 3... what

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and what GPU

tranquil dust
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3200g

round raft
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i didn’t mean the 3 my fault

fast dust
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oh, just a 3200G?

tranquil dust
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he has a gpu too

fast dust
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which one

tranquil dust
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it should be either the rx580 or a 1650 super if i remember correct

fast dust
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Could run off a 450w. What's your budget @round raft

round raft
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$600

fast dust
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for your whole build?

round raft
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ik it’s cheap but i can upgrade soon

tranquil dust
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for the whole build yeah

fast dust
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what about jsut for ur PSU

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er, just send me ur list

round raft
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ight one sec

fast dust
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DM it to me casue you cant post it in here

tranquil dust
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i can post it for him

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one has a 580 and one has a 1650s

fast dust
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oh

misty cape
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i’m currently building right now but i just put my motherboard on the stand-offs but idk the screw i need to tighten it, any help?

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the bags have labels so if you know the name of the screws it would say on the label that’s ok too

fast dust
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yeah, a cheap 450w will work

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lemme find one

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@round raft

round raft
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thank you v much

white osprey
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this seem any good ?

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or is their a better pcie wifi card for about 20 bucks ?

exotic aspen
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Can someone help me figure out what kind of error my cheap PC is having? Prevents the whole thing from starting properly. I can send a video of what it's doing to anyone willing to help out.

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Please halppp

languid mauve
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Did NewEgg really gouge the Matrexx 30 from 34 to 139?

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This is sad

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I literally checked the case yesterday and it was 34$

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I check now and it’s 139?

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Am I tripping?

open gazelle
white osprey
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what about this card

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Would it fit

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And where does the blutooth plug in the last slide go ?

wary geode
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Need help fast the gpu turns off the Pc when booting up a game I have determined that we put the drivers on a older version then works when we turn it off and back on we get the same issue

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Please @ me

copper dirge
#

Can anyone help me I bought a $500 i5 computer but I don’t know how to install the hard drive

hollow grove
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do you have sata cables?

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theyre like kinda rectangley

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and kinda w i d e

copper dirge
#

I posted pics in build pics

little osprey
#

So I have a Gigabyte 970 Gaming 8GB GPU. If I were to upgrade what would be a good one to upgrade to?

bleak shadow
#

any suggestion for a budget build max is 1500$?? please help me out

little osprey
#

Budget build could be $900

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Depends on what games your playing and what graphics settings you want to run at

bleak shadow
#

but 900$ should not be a good streaming and top game

little osprey
#

Well all your need is a 2060/2060S for streaming

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Maybe a 2070 for the higher games.

bleak shadow
#

i got ryzen 7/2070s in mind already

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still need couple more stuff to put in together

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was planning to get a 2080s

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but kinda over price atm

little osprey
#

Tbh, if your going 2000 series, wait till the 3000 series comes out

bleak shadow
#

i see

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well i saw a gigabyte RTX 2080s sell for 739$ should i take it?

little osprey
#

August 31st is the reveal date

bleak shadow
#

or should i wait

little osprey
#

Wait

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Definitely wait

bleak shadow
#

ah oki

#

asus am4 tuf gaming x570 plus good??

little osprey
#

I'd go b550 just because your budgeting

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Or go gigabyte

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Great for price

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I have an Asus rog Strix gaming b450-f and it is pricey for what it has

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bios is easy though

bleak shadow
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oh i see

little osprey
#

Yeah

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Anyways, got to check in into work, gl

bleak shadow
#

thank Salve

little leaf
#

@bleak shadow I would suggest a 3600 and a 2080s

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with a b450

serene spire
#

Can I have a couple of people’s opinions on the Nzxt BLD service like I’m new like extremely new like I’ve only played on a pc once ever so I’m looking for a alternative to building my own because I really do not feel comfortable building my first pc

little leaf
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@serene spire I would say to build your own

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its really not that hard

desert gulch
#

Plus you get decent ram

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If going with ryzen

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Prebuitls give you slow ram

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Mostly

little leaf
#

Nzxt says xmp is dangerous ocing lmao

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so make sure to enable it

desert gulch
#

Lol

stoic island
#

@serene spire Gamersnexus did a video on them

desert gulch
#

Nzxt also makes the h510

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Ewww

stoic island
#

Basically, bad overall, but good relative to other prebuilts

desert gulch
#

H510 is gross

stoic island
#

It is

desert gulch
#

So overused

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Td500 is much better

little leaf
#

220t I think looks nice

desert gulch
#

Yeah

serene spire
#

😬I was going to use that case damn

desert gulch
#

Lol

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Dont

stoic island
#

Lol

little leaf
#

lmao don't

desert gulch
#

Bad airflow

little leaf
#

and basic

desert gulch
#

Cliche

serene spire
#

Hold on I like there other case

stoic island
#

If you see someone using that, they're a simpleton

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It's so common

desert gulch
#

A simp?

stoic island
#

H510

desert gulch
#

Lol

little leaf
#

All of nzxts cases have bad airflow

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besides maybe the h1

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maybe

stoic island
#

H1 is decent compared to others because of the form factor

desert gulch
#

My phanteks is pretty good for airflow

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It has a mesh front

stoic island
#

I think there might be a few others with decent airflow

little leaf
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Was thinking for a phanteks evovle shift

stoic island
#

H510 ain't one of them

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Hehe

deep skiff
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imagine the h1 being in stock lmao

little leaf
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lmao

desert gulch
#

Lol

little leaf
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they just upped the price too

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it was 350

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now its 400

stoic island
#

NZXT is the Razer of cases

deep skiff
#

rip

desert gulch
#

It's almost as rare as a Logitech webcam lol

little leaf
#

I was gonna get an h1 cause I want to do itx

deep skiff
#

the custom panels people cut look hella nice tho

desert gulch
#

I've been trying to get one

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But they are outta stock everywhere

little leaf
#

but now gonna go with an evovle shift

serene spire
#

Is Corsair’s iCUE 220T case any good

deep skiff
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please tell me the ur looking at the air one @little leaf

little leaf
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Yes yes

stoic island
#

Have you seen Coolermaster TD500 mesh yet

little leaf
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not the sht one

desert gulch
#

I have

stoic island
#

220t air doesn't look good to me :(

little leaf
#

I like the 220t

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air

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I don't like td500

stoic island
#

It's not symmetrical on the front

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How could you not like td500 mesh :p

little leaf
#

I want this

terse condor
#

Hey my pc is working fine but cpu1 is says its running at 737 degree celcius?? Anyone know why that is?

stoic island
#

It's the one case that is like all purpose

little leaf
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@terse condor uhhhh wat

serene spire
#

I like cases that are simple but in a slick way. Like not to much to it but will still look good on a desk

little leaf
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what are you using?

stoic island
#

Sounds like you got a jet in there ;) @terse condor

terse condor
#

Exactly

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Ryzen7 3800x

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Msi afterburner to view temps

stoic island
#

First it's impossible for the CPU to be that hot unless you're computer is literally on fire

terse condor
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I know lmao

stoic island
#

And are you sure you're reading the right number?

terse condor
#

You want a pic?

stoic island
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Sure

little leaf
#

yes lmao

terse condor
#

Kind of nervous to turn on but its also running a bit slower so could it be that cpu1 is fried?

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No idea why if every other cpu processor is running around 35-45 idle

stoic island
#

Sensor might've screwed up somehow but if it fried you won't be in windows ;)

terse condor
#

Tru

little leaf
#

check bios?

stoic island
#

Pic please

terse condor
#

Even if its just 1 core that's fried?

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1 sec restarteing

#

Isually runs at 3.4 or 3.3 ghz butbnow its only like 2.9-3.0

stoic island
#

If it's one core gone the whole ccx is prob dead then that's half the CPU gone :ppp

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... you mean 4.4 or 4.3?

little leaf
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@stoic island my i5 half the cores died

stoic island
#

Or do you manually turn it down to like 3ghz

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@little leaf rip

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Dropped it?

little leaf
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Nope in the pc

stoic island
#

Oof

little leaf
#

Booted it and bam

still roostBOT
#
NOputitback#2233 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

terse condor
#

Im a dumbass

stoic island
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Bad word bad

little leaf
#

had half the cores and threads

stoic island
#

Lol wut

terse condor
#

I've misread it and that is the fan rpm

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😂😂

stoic island
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LOL

little leaf
#

hahahahah lmao

#

wait

terse condor
#

Any idea why it would be running a bit slower though?

little leaf
#

theremal throttleing

terse condor
#

Oh yeah i did basically wipe reset and reinstall windows

#

Its fluctuating a lot more than it did before. Between 2.7 GHz and 3.5. Thats normal?

stoic island
#

On idle it goes down to like 3ghz

#

Under load it should be 4.2 or so

#

Prob higher

#

Basically if you only have task manager open it's gonna be at 3ghz, if you have a game open it'll go up to 4ghz+

latent storm
#

hey so i just thought about this, will i be able to use rtx 3000 with my psu that i currently have?

little leaf
#

Most likely

terse condor
#

You're right thanks for the reassurance

latent storm
#

because won’t they have a new connector

terse condor
#

Am learnin

little leaf
#

They said that there will be an adapter

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That comes wirh the card in the leaks

latent storm
#

perfect

#

i sure hope so

stoic island
#

And the 12pin monstrosity is only a leak for now

#

We don't know if it's true they'll use 12pin

desert gulch
#

I wonder how much power there gonna draw

#

Probably not more than my 5700xt lol

terse condor
#

Can anyone explain why my cpu 2 usage is at 70% while the rest are at about 13%?

desert gulch
#

What game?

deep skiff
#

lets just skip ahead and have a 24pin on the rtx 4000

desert gulch
#

Some use only a core or 2

terse condor
#

Modern warfare

desert gulch
#

Oh idk

#

What cpu?

terse condor
#

Ryzen7 3800x

stoic island
#

That means MW is unoptimized

#

That's what it means :D

desert gulch
#

It works fine for me

stoic island
#

You can't force a game to take more cores

terse condor
#

Ohh

stoic island
#

They take how many they're programmed for

desert gulch
#

Take my threadripper lol

stoic island
#

So if it's designed for one core to do most of the work

#

That's how it's gonna work

#

:D

terse condor
#

Oh I thought it was how to cpu was programmed not the other way around

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Rip#

desert gulch
#

Nope

stoic island
#

That's why Intel boasts those single core perf

#

Programmers are lazy

#

It's easier to stack all the work on one core

terse condor
#

Just rebuilt my pc into a new case that's why im so catious lol. First time doing it

#

Ohh

terse condor
#

radiator placement mounted on the top or the front? Opinions? facts?

stoic island
#

Top is nice

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Trapped air doesn't go to pump

#

Other than that it's your choice afaik

terse condor
#

yeah i was researching and i saw a lot of poeple who like side mounting. right now with a top mount i max at 60 C on my cpu and 78 C on my gpu

serene spire
#

I’ve got one more question. Does anyone have a link to a build video that goes more in depth with actually building the pc itself rather then the parts that go in it

terse condor
#

not sure, maybe linus?

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the other day some legend allowed me to video call him and work it out, learned alot about where the wires go and what not, can do it myself without vids now

sand falcon
#

What part do you want explained?

serene spire
#

Actually he might I forgot about him. Thanks for the reminder. And I have a friend like that but he’s really busy all the time

sand falcon
#

Linus and Anthony did some good beginner step-by-step buiild guides a while back

terse condor
#

this chats here to help send pics and you'll get it fiogured out

serene spire
#

Basically the whole thing because I’m really new to this whole pc thing I’ve never owned built or even looked inside one with my own eyes

terse condor
#

oh man. you have a static mat?

sand falcon
#

Do you have an old dead/unused pc you can tear apart?

#

You don't need a static mat. A wood table top will do fine

terse condor
#

you right

sand falcon
#

Just don't build on carpet or cheap folding plastic

#

Wood -> good
Metal -> good
Marble -> Weird flex but good

serene spire
#

I have a wooden desk I could do it on it’s decent size. But no I don’t like I said I’m extremely new

terse condor
#

i did my on a table and a chair, but i never had static in my house it feels like so i wasnt nervous. Some poeple like to be extra safe with static mats

sand falcon
#

Wooden desk is good

#

Poke around to see if anyone you know is getting rid of an old PC. Tearing one apart is always a good way to learn

terse condor
#

i even set a part on the carpet at one point, Bob is right

sand falcon
#

Avoid setting parts on carpet 🙂

terse condor
#

Also right lmao

#

Was for a couple seconds but didnt have a bad experience

serene spire
#

I’ll see if that friend I was talking about has one I’ll probably see if I can get him to FT me while I build it

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But I should be fine with where I’ll build it at

sand falcon
#

Yup

#

Just ground yourself every now and then by touching some large metal object

terse condor
#

Heres a great in depth vid @serene spire

#

Good luck let us know how it works out

sand falcon
#

Bitwit 🙂

terse condor
#

He's good enough lol

sand falcon
#

He's fun

serene spire
#

Ight will be in a later date though because I’m doing it after I move. Just wanna do research and see if I can understand a little bit more about PCs before I start building one

terse condor
#

Wires was the most difficult part for me. Mainly figuring out how all my fans connect with a fan hub and whatnot. But its all fairly easy once you have an understanding

sand falcon
#

Good news is that almost everything is designed so that you can only plug it into the right slot in the right direction

stoic island
#

Don't force anything in

little leaf
#

Besidea ram

#

Ram requires for e

#

Just a tad

stoic island
#

Yea if something isn't going in, check before you apply force

little leaf
#

With ur thumbs

sand falcon
#

Also the 24 pin

stoic island
#

24 pin slides in a lil before you need to apply force

sand falcon
#

That is true

#

I always hate plugging in 24 pins. I wish they would put them by a standoff more often

stoic island
#

They're hard to tell when they're completely in and takes force

white osprey
#

this card seem any good ?

#

would it fit in my mobo?

#

and where does the bluetooth plug shown in the last slide go ?

terse condor
patent vapor
#

Can someone help my budgets is 900 need 2060 super

vital warren
#

@patent vapor i'll throw a decent list together for you

austere condor
#

just waiting on my CPU's to show up
then these rigs are gonna be monsters 😄

digital pecan
vital warren
#

well i can tell they like rgb

viral ore
#

is this what hes buying?

#

or already has

vital warren
#

definitely a lot of things to cut that could save money

digital pecan
#

He is in the middle of buying it

viral ore
#

is he using this list to buy parts?

digital pecan
#

yeah

viral ore
#

because i hope he doesnt pay 170 for that board

#

and i hope he doesnt buy the most overrated cooler on the market for 45

vital warren
#

is he just gaming?

digital pecan
#

Yeah lmao he found it at a much better price elsewhere

#

Yeah just gaming

viral ore
#

also thats a bad ram config

digital pecan
#

How so?

viral ore
#

XMP isnt verified across two different ram kits

#

if xmp just doesnt work, he has to overclock manually

#

tell him to stop buying things, im fixing this

digital pecan
#

Um the last part comes in thursday 🤷‍♂️

viral ore
#

thats not "middle of buying things" lol

#

thats, "already purchased"

#

middle of buying things is hes bought 2-4 of the 8 main components

#

5-7 is hes bought most of the components already

#

and 8 is hes already bought all the components

vital warren
#

i was about to put together a better list for him rip

digital pecan
#

Oh

viral ore
#

i mean yeah he overpaid for some stuff

digital pecan
#

My bad lol ill change my phrasing next time

viral ore
#

but the build itself will work for the most part

#

at least he got a good psu lol

vital warren
#

^^

digital pecan
#

Yeah, but can i still see the lists u guys put together?

vital warren
#

i gotta re make it hold on

digital pecan
#

Ok

vital warren
#

then again i'm not an expert but i always go performance over aesthetics

digital pecan
#

i try to get a mixture lol

#

wait lemme check it

vital warren
#

that's why i put that case on that build

#

good airflow w 3 rgb fans

viral ore
digital pecan
#

Those r both pretty good

viral ore
#

oh yeah, and the MSI G241 monitor is much better than that other one

digital pecan
#

They have the same specs tho

#

Oh wait nvm

#

IPS

viral ore
#

yee ips

#

unless he wants that curve

#

woah

#

new release?

vital warren
#

woah what

digital pecan
#

Thats pretty nice ngl

vital warren
#

i was gonna buy the g241 but might have to get that instead lol

terse condor
#

Thinking about getting or making some sort 4 pin to usb 2.0 connector to control the rgb on my aio through my pc without a third party controller

#

Anyone know if this would work?

digital pecan
#

Ok can u guys comment on my build now lol?

terse condor
#

Pics

digital pecan
terse condor
#

Suks

viral ore
#

lol

vital warren
#

holy psu

viral ore
#

x570 is unnecessary btw, b550 is just as good

rustic sandal
#

That’s a solid build though

viral ore
#

ssd overpriced unless you need what the plus offers

digital pecan
#

yeah ik i just got it back in december when things were cheaper

rustic sandal
#

I have the Thermaltake v200, go to #build-pics and check it out if you want. I replaced the case fans with my AIO

viral ore
#

oh psh you already own crap

digital pecan
#

Ok one sec

rustic sandal
#

Oh wait

viral ore
#

every time i see pcpp, i assume they havent bought anything for some reason lmao

rustic sandal
#

Do you have this build already or are you buying it

digital pecan
#

i alr built

viral ore
#

hes owned it for a year lol

rustic sandal
#

ohhh send some pics then

#

I bet it’s sick

digital pecan
#

Ok one sec

#

lol thx

viral ore
#

slap em in build-pics tho

digital pecan
#

Ok

terse condor
#

Looks good tbh. No hard drive?

digital pecan
#

I just added it in the list my bad

#

2tb seagate

rustic sandal
#

I have an old 2TB Xbox drive I use for my hdd lol

terse condor
#

Tru so you already have this pc?

digital pecan
#

yeah

terse condor
#

I just got rid of my old thermaltake case it was crap tbh

digital pecan
#

I personally like it

rustic sandal
#

^^^ I want the core p5 and wall mount it

#

I like it, just a bit bulky for my build

terse condor
#

Really bad airflow. Switch to the 220t and dropped almost 15-20 degrees celcius on my cpu and gpu temps

rustic sandal
#

feels slightly empty

#

^^ my airflow sucks aha

vital warren
#

td500 mesh gang

terse condor
#

I like compact cases

rustic sandal
#

me too

terse condor
#

The corsair comes with its own controller and software to tweak with rgb and fan speed stuff too but you can do that with any case

#

That one looks like a decent thermaltake lol

rustic sandal
#

It’s so pretty

digital pecan
#

Yeah fr

terse condor
#

Yall seen the mech warrior or the antec torque atx?

digital pecan
#

Ok i put it in

terse condor
#

Pretty gnarly

digital pecan
#

@viral ore if u want to see i put it in pics

#

Hi

plucky spruce
#

The prob with open designs is cooling the vrms

#

Cause there ain’t no cool air flowing through the case

#

It’s static air pressure

#

Which is bad

#

But it’s good for a test bench

little osprey
analog hound
#

Maybe a stupid question but am I able to start up my pc to check to see if that fans work without the gpu and m.2 in ?

outer heart
#

i think you should be able to

#

not sure tho

next kestrel
#

yes

#

all you need to have fans running is cpu mobo psu

#

to post u need ram/graphics unless u have onboard gpu

patent vapor
#

Ok @vital warren

#

Did u do it

stoic island
#

Wut

patent vapor
#

He was supposed to but me 900 buck budget with the 2060

#

Super

stoic island
#

That's prob not gonna work

#

Prices too high

patent vapor
#

Oh k thx then

little leaf
#

@little osprey not great

little osprey
#

Can my friend get better for around the same price?

little leaf
#

yes

#

much better

austere condor
#

got impatient waiting for my CPU for this build to show up in the mail
so, i built most of it
lol
so, there's a early photo of one of my next builds 😄
Xeon e5-2680 V4 (CPU's im waiting for) 14c / 28t 3.3ghz boost.
ID Cooling SE-224-XT tower cooler (waiting to install CPU's)
MSI X99A Gaming 7
4x8GB DDR4-3200 CL16
500GB 970 evo NVMe M.2
2TB Seagate HDD
Nvidia Founders GTX 1080 8GB
Montech ATX glass side mesh front case
4x RGB LED 120mm fans
EVGA 500W 80+ Gold PSU

#

will get the final photos up in #build-pics in a couple days

hybrid ether
#

Any tips for first build?

desert gulch
#

Yes

#

No force on cpu when installing

#

Grab Mobo by plastic connecters or io

#

Install io shield first

#

Try to cable manage somewhat while doing it

hybrid ether
#

Anything else?

fast dust
#

dont put thermal paste on the CPU socket

stoic tendon
#

I am trying to get drives for my son's budget gaming pc with a B450 Steel Legend for under $100. Is that possible? Any recommedations? I am not well informed in this subject at all. From what I have gathered, perhaps a SDD to boot the OS and a HDD for his games?

fast dust
#

yes, that would be a good idea

#

do you know how much storage your son needs/wants?

stoic tendon
#

1 TB should be fine for now

#

and if I am correct, Windows 10 justneeds 16 to 20.

lyric thistle
#

Would a 128GB SSD be enough?

stoic tendon
#

I would assume so.

#

I am a total newbie.

stoic island
fast dust
#

You could get a 1TB SSD, might go over $100 by a little bit
or, you could get a 250gb SSD for OS, and then a 2TB HDD for games

stoic island
#

105$ Crucial P1 1tb

fast dust
#

120gb is enough for windows, but personally I like to have a little bit more

stoic tendon
#

ok.

stoic island
#

A single 1tb SSD does the job here.

fast dust
#

Which one? SSD+HDD or just an SSD?

stoic tendon
#

Whatever you guys think.

fast dust
#

if you want just SSD, Mr1 linked that SSD
if you want HDD too, i'll link you some

stoic island
stoic tendon
#

So a 1tb SSD is good for a budget, first gaming pc for him?

stoic island
#

Yes

stoic tendon
#

Thank you Mr. Doest.

stoic island
#

SSD Model matters a lot too

fast dust
#

Lol Mr. Doest

stoic island
#

But that specific one is good

#

Ignore my name, call me whatever lol

stoic tendon
#

That is compatible with his board?

fast dust
#

yep

#

goes in the M.2 slot

stoic tendon
#

You guys are my new best friends. Thank you.

fast dust
#

ive never had a friend before

lyric thistle
stoic island
#

You're welcome

stoic tendon
#

and now you have a best friend.

fast dust
stoic island
#

that's a ex950 I think?

fast dust
#

I have the B450M steel legend. this is what it looks like

#

EX920

stoic island
#

ah

fast dust
#

woulda got SN750 if i knew about it

stoic island
fast dust
#

oh non M steel legend has heatsink

#

cewl

stoic tendon
#

Perfect.

fast dust
#

👌

stoic tendon
#

Best place to purchase windows 10?

lyric thistle
#

eBay eBay

fast dust
#

yep

stoic tendon
#

ok got it. Thank you.

stoic island
#

eBay is an option

fast dust
#

eeeeeeebayyyyyyyyy

stoic island
stoic tendon
#

Should be windows 10 pro?

fast dust
#

it can be

stoic island
#

Both are fine, on ebay or software codes they're both 3$ or 4$ so

#

Pro comes with features you'll likely never use, but it's nice to have

fast dust
#

difference between home and pro is like nonexistent to an average user, so either works

stoic tendon
#

aah got it, ok thanks again everyone.

fast dust
#

fo sho

stoic island
#

Gonna quote forky here

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Bitlocker, remote desktop , group policy editor, active directory are the differences that matter most to (me)

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if you've never heard of those features, don't worry, you prob won't use them

lyric thistle
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I thought remote desktop was a normal Windows feature

stoic tendon
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👍

stoic island
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I'm not sure, it's what forky said.

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I don't use that stuff so I don't worry about it

lyric thistle
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Maybe I'm thonking of third party apps that scammers use to steal your lunch money

stoic island
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Yea probably

stoic tendon
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Sorry to bother you again. I guess he already has a 16gb ssd, so I guess we could run windows off of that and just get another drive for his games? Does it still make sense to stay with the crucial?

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Or should we just try to pick up a HD for him..

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He has spent his money so he has to go wash more cars... 🙂

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he has been waiting for several months and has purchased everything else.. We built it yesterday and realized we were short a drive.

stoic island
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You sure he has a 16gb SSD?

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not 16gb ram?

stoic tendon
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one sec..

stoic island
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or a 16gb usb drive?

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because 16gb is really REALLY small

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Also, HDDs are painfully slow for OS, please don't install windows on a HDD, at least have 1 SSD to boot off of

stoic tendon
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got it..

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I think he was under the impression it came with the CPU... we will stick with the crucial.

stoic island
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Fair enough.

stoic tendon
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Thank you for being merciful to newbies.

stoic island
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You're welcome, but we're all newbies compared to some :P

white osprey
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this wifi card seem any good ?

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would it fit in my mobo?

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and where does the bluetooth plug in the last slide go ?

frozen axle
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what cpu cooler would you guys recommend for a ryzen 7 3700x

fast dust
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stock works

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if you're no OCing

frozen axle
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if i am ocing would you recommend like a noctua fan

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or are there better options

lyric thistle
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Yes

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Shop vac

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And wind tunnel

bronze kite
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I like to use a pulse jet myself

lyric thistle
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For intake or exhaust?

bronze kite
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Setup the intake if the pulse Jet so it pulls air out of the case.

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So as a exhaust I suppose.

lyric thistle
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M good 👀

bronze kite
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Its a little loud but incredibly good cooling performance.

formal axle
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Is this where I link my pc picker link and u peeps give me ur opinion ?

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I hit somewhat of a snag and I want ideas since this will be my first build

lyric thistle
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Yup yup

formal axle
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Oh I guess I can’t link. Well building my new comp found out some cases are able to hold 2 mother boards. Would u recommend going that route

lyric thistle
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Ah, leave out the .

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Google dot com

formal axle
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It still didn’t let me link it I took out the . Before com? Lol

lyric thistle
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Hmm

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Send it to me in DM, I'll put it here

formal axle
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The psu I would only go with if I was doing the dual system.

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Oh and the graphics card I’m waiting for the 3070 super or ti

lyric thistle
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Ah

desert gulch
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Likely there won't be a 3070 ti. It will most like be a 3080ti

formal axle
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3070 super than I would assume they wouldn’t take that away

cursive wharf
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@formal axle budget for a $700/$1000 GPU, not a $400 one if you're going that way. I assume gaming PC as that is just about the only thing Intel is good at.

formal axle
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700 to 1k are the 3080s, I’m not going to be able to save up that much in a month

cursive wharf
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Also go 280mm RAD and better RAM tbh. 10600k + 4000MT/s RAM

formal axle
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And with this being my first build if I mess anything up imma be a mad chica

cursive wharf
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You can get a 1K GPU if you don't overspend on the CPU

formal axle
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Go with 4k ram really?:0

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I already got the cpu I got most everything as of right now

cursive wharf
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Well, it'll work I guess, but not the most optimal way to go about

spiral zealot
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final piece of my upgrade is on the way. snagged a 5600 XT for $225 + shipping

formal axle
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Optimal for what part? A 3080 is going to be more optimal than a 3070 super? Imo a gpu most def plays a big part but can go either route.

cursive wharf
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For pure gaming. You're going Intel so I'd assume you're optimizing for max gaming perf. Which would firstly be to get just about the highest end GPU before even thinking of Intel (3600+2080ti as opposed to 10600k+2080S, tho 2080Tis are OOS so point is kinda moot for 2080Ti itself). Then there is the fact that a fully core/cache OCed 10600k can easily be at or sometimes even beat a 10700k OC. So instead of spending money in the CPU for perf you wouldn't see you instead put it to high end RAM and get like a 5% - 10% perf boost.

formal axle
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The cas timing and what not on ram, how do I know what to go with? I got 16 on mine I think

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The 14 are pricier but do u see a big different between the 2?

cursive wharf
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Timings have to do with perf, but freq does as well. Ideally you want high freq and low timings. Just doing one or the other (but not and) gets small perf gains. 3200 CL14 will generally have the memory dies known as Samsung B-Die which are very good quality (if not bad binned at least). If you want to dive into RAM OC then those are pretty nice things to get

formal axle
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I’m not gonna lie... I’m stuck on the royals I need that bling bling in my life

cursive wharf
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Ye, but they are quite pricy.

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Getting 16gb for the price of almost 32gb

meager pumice
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do you guys think its worth it to vertically mount the gpu

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and risk the temperture increase

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and potential performance drop

cursive wharf
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Depends on case, fans and airflow setup for case, way you'll do vert mount, GPU you have, GPU fan profile you have, any OC/UC and OV/UV on the GPU

meager pumice
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if i use the vertical mounts that are on my case, the gpu will be less than an inch away from the glasss panel

fast dust
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That’s how a lot of cases are

meager pumice
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so would it be bad to do a vertical mount?

fast dust
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Eh depends. What GPU you got

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It’d probably be fine, but might wanna double check

meager pumice
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gigabyte 2060 super

fast dust
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Single fan or...?

meager pumice
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two intake fans

fast dust
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No I mean is the GPU single fan

meager pumice
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the gpu has two intake fans

fast dust
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Oh gotcha

meager pumice
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ya

fast dust
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Should be fine

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You might see a slight increase in temps, But I won’t be bad

meager pumice
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will it lower the clock speed?