#building-and-recc-chat

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stark bramble
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^

torn glade
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lolol yup

analog hearth
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can't do much with it anyways

stark bramble
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no hardware at all

analog hearth
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overpriced garbage

torn glade
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it's nuts

analog hearth
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I'd rather spend $2000 on a MacBook

vivid coral
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Yes

torn glade
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lolol

stark bramble
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macbooks kinda bad

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idk just personal preference

analog hearth
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@stark bramble not as bad as Chromebooks

torn glade
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yup lolol

stark bramble
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you can get much better prices with windows

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like acer aspire 5 for example

vivid coral
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I can buy a car for a macbook

torn glade
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for what you pay for you should get more but you don't

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no wonder most people stick with windows based pcs

stark bramble
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look at this deal for example

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its amazing

little osprey
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i heard, if you want to game and do work, ryzen, if you just want gaming then intel

stark bramble
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depends

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ryzen is perfectly fine for gaming if ur not like

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an avid

little osprey
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tbh i dont think my normal eye could tell the difference

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i have an i5 at the moment and i hate everything about it

vivid coral
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I like ryzen

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But idk

little osprey
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its like saying "iphone camera vs andriod camera"

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they are both good

stark bramble
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^

vivid coral
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Yes

stark bramble
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to the untrained mind, intel and ryzen dont have much difference

vivid coral
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Yeh

torn glade
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yup

little osprey
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exactly

analog hearth
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android camera

little osprey
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Ugghh lol

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lol

stark bramble
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android cameras are good

vivid coral
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Yes

stark bramble
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i have one

little osprey
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no i phone cameras are

vivid coral
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Bruh

analog hearth
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Android doesn't have a camera. the phone itself has a camera

stark bramble
little osprey
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LOL

torn glade
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lolol

vivid coral
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Newegg

torn glade
little osprey
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official dwayne.... lol, why that name?

vivid coral
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Epic meme

torn glade
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this is what I found when I did a gif search for chromebook

stark bramble
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FAX

little osprey
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lol

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what do you guys prefer linux or windows

vivid coral
torn glade
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lolol

vivid coral
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That's laptop

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Top result

stark bramble
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linux is better for computer savvy ppl
windows is more point-click

torn glade
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depends what I'm doing

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every day windows

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dev stuff linux

little osprey
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hm... can you install linux on windows?

torn glade
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if I want to just play around and use windows

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if I want to play with servers, terminals, web stuff, linux

vivid coral
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hm... can you install linux on windows?
@little osprey
Yes but if I remember Linus video you need 2 gpus

torn glade
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you can install linux on windows as a virtual pc

little osprey
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2 gpus lollll...

vivid coral
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Or was that when he pirate mac

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Idfk

torn glade
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at once point you could install linux in windows as a add remove install and boot in linux

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but now with the new crap that windows wants to be the main drive and boot loader

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uefi

vivid coral
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Yes

little osprey
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say no

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lol

torn glade
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dual boot still possible

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live cd or live usb stick still possible

little osprey
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interesting, id prefer the VM of linux tbh

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see how things go

torn glade
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windows 10 I think prob versions ? have hyper-v you can install

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it comes with it just need to turn it on

little osprey
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hyper v, what does that do?

torn glade
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but hyper-v networking breaks randomly no reason at all

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it's what replaced virtual pc

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hyper-visor

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used to create virtual installs and sessions

little osprey
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okay, its like vmware

torn glade
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also can be used with thin clients

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yes

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just different name so on

little osprey
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i think vmware is the best eh?

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virtual box is good too.

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but mainly people use vmware, so tutorials and what not are easier to follow.

torn glade
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vmware esxi is what I've been running

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on a server

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as a server

little osprey
stoic island
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mx330-g

torn glade
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that's one good looking cougar lols

little osprey
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Ok

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@stoic island

stoic island
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could also go 2060

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or save a buck and go 1660 super

little osprey
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Should the storage be enough? 512gb ssd and 2tb hdd or should I upgrade to 1tb ssd

stoic island
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its good

stark bramble
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thats much more than enough

little osprey
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hmmmm

autumn wolf
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depends on your needs but 512 is enough

little osprey
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Because this is going to be my school and gaming pc really

stark bramble
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then 512 is enough

little osprey
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Ok

stark bramble
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esp if u have 2 tb hdd as well

little osprey
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Ye

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And can the 550w psu handle a 2060?

stark bramble
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im p sure a 500w can handle a 2070s

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so ig

little osprey
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Nice

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@stoic island so is this what u were talking about?

stoic island
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ye

little osprey
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Bet thanks for ur help

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And u said not to worry about the bios update correct?@stoic island

stoic island
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ye

nocturne folio
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imma piss all of you of

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of

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offf

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off

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took 4 tries anyway

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amazon is best

torn glade
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lololol

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?

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I shop around

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lolol

nocturne folio
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why is the apple store called the apple store when there isnt anything to do with apples in the apple store there is just a bunch of expensive phones

torn glade
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I know they should sell you some apples at least

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lolol

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or give you at least 1 free bag of apples if you buy their expensive junk

desert gulch
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Lol why would they give you anything for free? They can't even throw in a headphone jack

torn glade
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lolol

desert gulch
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And it's rumored their next phone won't come with a charging cable

torn glade
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the fanboys will love it

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lolol

desert gulch
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Lol

torn glade
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no cable even better

little osprey
latent storm
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will i be able to fit a 24 and 32 inch monitor on a 55” desk

torn glade
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is your pc going to be on the floor ? or on the desk ?

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looking at my desk at 55" on the floor yes, on the desk no

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maybe if you had a stand that you could mount both monitors on yeah

white osprey
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i need flash drive to install windows to new pc ?!

sand falcon
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Yup

stark bramble
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i mean

white osprey
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dam it

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wth

stark bramble
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not nessicarily

white osprey
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now i need to buy a damn flash drive

stark bramble
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you can download a key

sand falcon
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You don't have any sort of flash drive or SD card?

white osprey
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i have ssd

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that i got for my new pc

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dont have flash drive

sand falcon
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@stark bramble downloading a key isn't exactly useful if windows isn't installed

stark bramble
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ahhh

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oops

white osprey
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damn

sand falcon
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Do you have a removable hard drive?

white osprey
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sure?

stark bramble
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you can buy some for pretty cheap

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most usb drives cost around 10-15 dollars

white osprey
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shipping times

sand falcon
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Any sort of external drive will work, you just need to back up the data

white osprey
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is whats annoying

sand falcon
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You can hop down to walmart and pick one up for seven bucks

torn glade
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make sure the usb flash drive is at least 16GB I tried a 8GB it did not let me do it

white osprey
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8gb?

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o

stark bramble
sand falcon
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I'm pretty sure it's still just 8GB. Did it get that big?

stark bramble
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plenty right here

torn glade
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when I try using the tool to put it on a 8GB stick it said nope sorry

sand falcon
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Hmm

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Odd

torn glade
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yup

stark bramble
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i suggest this one

sand falcon
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Did you reformat it as ntfs?

torn glade
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nope

sand falcon
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That;s why

torn glade
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since it's only 8GB FAT32 is fine

sand falcon
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The drive needs to be ntfs

torn glade
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it auto formats it

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when you do it

white osprey
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damn

sand falcon
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It didn't for me

torn glade
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well the tool from the ms site official one

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ask you for a drive

sand falcon
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Yup

torn glade
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and it says data will be lost

sand falcon
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Yup

torn glade
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and will be formated

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and it does it formats it

sand falcon
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Yup

torn glade
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and after says to small

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lololol

sand falcon
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Did you have the drive partitioned?

torn glade
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nope

sand falcon
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Are you sure?

torn glade
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yup

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it does it all for you

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it it manually too

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no go

stark bramble
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i suggest u double check

torn glade
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had to use the 16GB one

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I did

stark bramble
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hmm

torn glade
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1 parition

sand falcon
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Is your drive broken?

torn glade
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formatted

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nope not broken

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and is not a fake 8GB either

white osprey
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so i download windows from officla website for free then put in activation code into new pc ?

torn glade
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you need to have a partition in the first place to be able to format lolol

sand falcon
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Windows is still saying it needs to be 5GB or bigger

stark bramble
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it is 16

sand falcon
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you need to have a parttiion in the first place to be able to format lolol
@torn glade That's not true. You can format a raw disk

torn glade
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yup

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it's called a raw disk for a reason

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cuz it has no parition

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of volume

sand falcon
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I know. You can still format it

sullen jay
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Soo, opinions on the B450-F?

sand falcon
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Good board

still roostBOT
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cdmlb#3500 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

sullen jay
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In terms of?

torn glade
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that's the windows world

sullen jay
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How’s the VRMs?

sand falcon
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All around good board. Not for a 3950x though

torn glade
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dammit it why does this chat think I say bad words when I say things like poop

sand falcon
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The VRMs are good enough for basically any ryzen chip

torn glade
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lololol

sullen jay
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Hmm

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Do you know what mosfet is used in the VRMs?

sand falcon
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Not a big deal

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What CPU are you looking at?

sullen jay
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Oh something like an OCed 3700x at 4.4GHz.

sand falcon
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You are aware that ryzen does not OC well, and that a manual OC can decrease your performance?

sullen jay
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I am well aware.

sand falcon
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What cooling?

sullen jay
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AIO, Eisbaer 240.

sand falcon
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You might consider a better board and cooler

sullen jay
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What’s wrong with my current cooler?

stoic island
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Anyways yes we know the VRM mosfets

sullen jay
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which are?

stoic island
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on the CPU VCC Mosfets it's ONSemi 4C10B on high-side

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and 4C06B on low-side x2

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same setup on the Soc mosfets

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except on the soc mosfet it's 2x high side 2x low side

sullen jay
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Ah, do you think those are better than what the B450i Gaming Plus uses?

stoic island
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the b450i gaming plus ac has IR3555s

sand falcon
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They both should be sufficient, correct?

sullen jay
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But anyways, what is wrong with my cooler? I thought it was pretty good.

stoic island
torn glade
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idk maybe he thinks the pump sucks ? or it's to small ?

sand falcon
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It is one of the better ones, but I seem to remember it was overpriced for the performance

stoic island
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top is b450-f

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bottom is b450i

sand falcon
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There are reports of the pump sucking, but you get that with basically any aio

sullen jay
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Would the H100i be better?

little osprey
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@stoic island is it worth paying the extra money for the 1660 ti or is the super good enough

sullen jay
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I don’t see the performance gain worth spending the $40-$50 more.

little osprey
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Ok

torn glade
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I thought the ti was lower end now and the super was the higher now ?

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ain't a super for the same models better than the ti ?

sullen jay
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No.

torn glade
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1660 super better than 1660 ti

sand falcon
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I thought the ti was lower end now and the super was the higher now ?
@torn glade No

sullen jay
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1660super is not better than the TI.

sand falcon
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1660ti is better

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But it's not worth imo

sullen jay
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Just like the 2080s is not better than the 2080ti.

little osprey
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Ok thanks

sullen jay
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The 1660ti performs roughly, 2-4% better on average

torn glade
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ok

sullen jay
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While costing almost as much as a 2060.

torn glade
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ok

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cool

sand falcon
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It's technically better, just not in any reasonable way

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For gaming at least

torn glade
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yes

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nvidia just comes out with to many sub cards

sand falcon
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Not really

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I wish there were more options honestly

torn glade
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the problem is $$$$

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if they would be cheaper

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they would not need more options

sand falcon
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They still would

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Like say I'm a content creator. I don't care about cuda cores, but I need vram. So a 800 core card with 16GB of vram would be great

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Or if I'm doing data processing. There you need a lot of cores but not much vram. 5000 cores, 6GB coming up

little osprey
sand falcon
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Or heck, maybe just make a cheap entry level card again

torn glade
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oh the problem with the cuda cores for content creators is for some reason at one point adobe products used them and it helped, but over time they stopped doing that and nothing really uses the cuda cores much now cuz of compatibility with other brands and they just went back to pure gpu performance and not like proprietary tech

sand falcon
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I would recommend 1080p, 120hz

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I was more thinking cad, but yeah sure

little osprey
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Ok thanks

sand falcon
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There's still a lot of stuff out there that uses cuda cores

torn glade
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yes never said there was not

sand falcon
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And a lot of stuff that doesn't need many cuda cores

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You might be confusing the cuda language with a cuda core

torn glade
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nope

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this was years ago

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when that stuff first came out

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adobe was partnering with nvidia for lots of gpu cuda accelerated software

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with opencl using cuda and the cuda language stuff

sand falcon
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that;s the cuda language

torn glade
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this was lie idk should be 15 years by now maybe 20

sand falcon
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opencl uses cuda cores, but is not the cuda language

torn glade
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exactly what I'm talking about

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they used it at one point in time for adobe products

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it was opencl with cuda

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it was a marketing thing when cuda cores came out and nvidia pushed it out as a feature

sand falcon
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opencl and cuda are two completely different things

stoic island
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@little osprey ti is stupid, super is much better value

torn glade
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I'm talking about OpenCL and Cuda Cores

sand falcon
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So you are confusing cuda with cuda cores

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Understood

torn glade
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no

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the cuda you know today

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is not what first came out 20 years ago

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it changed over time

sand falcon
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Okay, so are you talking about cuda or cuda cores?

torn glade
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before you had to use opencl to even use the cuda cores

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today it's not the same

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they changed it over time

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and made that cuda language

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that's why only scientist people and people that made simulations used it

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when it first came out adobe used opencl to use the new features of cuda cores, and a marketing

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they killed it all

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and over time cuda language came out

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it evolved over time

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this is also when all them nvidia tesla cards came out

sand falcon
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Yeah, the teslas were the first to support cuda

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Roughly

torn glade
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nvidia always comes out with crazy amazing things

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I just wish people would use them, I think the issue was it's just to hard, people just want to program and let the OS, drivers, and hardware do all the work for them

sand falcon
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People use cuda though

torn glade
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yes

sand falcon
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And basically every game out there uses cuda cores

jade kestrel
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You definitely cuda use them

torn glade
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yes cuz it came easy for them to do it since it's an auto process now and why opencl got canned from many things cuz they had to program as a separate thing

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another reason why consoles use general process processors

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and unified memory

sand falcon
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cuda cores can still run openCL

torn glade
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they just want to make games and not have to think about the hardware like the old days

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yes it can

sand falcon
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People still think about the hardware

torn glade
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yes but not in the same way

sand falcon
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Just not in games

torn glade
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yes

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you know what people think about today oh whocares they can get 16GB RAM lolol

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bloatware software

sand falcon
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They have enough power to run. It's not worth wasting a good hardware engineer on stuff that will work well enough

torn glade
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yup

sand falcon
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It's not worth the average user's money to worry about that sort of thing

torn glade
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no

sand falcon
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So they don't worry about it

torn glade
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yup

sand falcon
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It's only when you get into custom applications where computing is actually important that you start worrying too much about it

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Hence why it would be nice to be able to have GPUs with configurable numbers of cuda cores and ram

torn glade
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yes

sand falcon
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And creators would like more ram. Data handlers would like more cores

torn glade
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yes

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but the options they are giving you does it look that's what they are trying to do ?

sand falcon
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No

torn glade
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so they should fix that

sand falcon
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AMD has something like that with the 4GB/8GB options

torn glade
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you ever see that crazy amd card that has a ton of ram and even m.2 drives as extra memory for it

sand falcon
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Yeah

torn glade
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great for loading large data and data sets for sure but can it run crysis lmfao

sand falcon
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IBM has something kinda like that. They have this thing where the GPU can allocate areas of the host memory directly to itself and get a high bandwidth interconnect

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To be fair, high end cards are not for running crysis 🤣

torn glade
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lolol

sand falcon
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I've gtg now

torn glade
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cya

sand falcon
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cya

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Let me know if you get crysis running on that card 🙂

torn glade
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lolol ok if I can afford that card first lmfao

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for y'all your FYIs

white osprey
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can i install windows on a ssd then put that ssd into a new pc ?:!

torn glade
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it does work at times and other times you might get a blue screen

white osprey
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often blue screen >

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?

torn glade
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I've had friends just pop the drive from their old system and put it in their new rig no problems

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but it was not a OEM version

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and it just reinstalled all the new hardware

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depending ho how different the hardware is, the os might bug out trying to load all the old drivers and blue screen and crash and not boot into windows

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if that happens try safemode

white osprey
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the ssd is brand new

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never used b4

torn glade
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soooooooooooo you want to install windows on it

white osprey
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yes

torn glade
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some how

white osprey
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cuz i dont have flash drive

torn glade
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you have to run the installer for all that

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do you have a old usb hard drive ?

white osprey
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nope

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i wasnt aware i needed flash drive to install windows until about an hr ago

torn glade
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so not even an old external hhd

white osprey
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i have a hdd

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in the pc i have rn

torn glade
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external usb one ?

white osprey
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not external

torn glade
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well that sucks

white osprey
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so i have to buy a flash drive?

torn glade
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cuz you can do it also using a external usb drive

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other than a memory stick

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does your new rig have a optical drive at all ?

white osprey
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nope

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well

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idk

torn glade
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no external optical drives you can plug using usb ? or anything ?

white osprey
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im not sure what that exactly means

torn glade
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cuz if you could burn the dvd using your old rig if you even have a burner in it

white osprey
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kind of new to pc parts

torn glade
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lol o

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k

white osprey
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but if u mean the dvd thing

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i dont have it on either

torn glade
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poop

white osprey
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i still new to build the new pc

torn glade
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what are you on right now ?

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laptop ?

white osprey
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no

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pc

torn glade
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old desktop ?

white osprey
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desktop

torn glade
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ok

white osprey
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not to old i dont think

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but the hdd is slow

torn glade
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does this old one have a dvd burning in it ?

white osprey
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no

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i built this one

torn glade
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poop

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ok

white osprey
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so

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ssd not an option

torn glade
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hmmmmmm

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did your new ssd come with software to clone it ?

white osprey
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i thought boblasershark said something aboput it

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idk

torn glade
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cuz often some ssd's come with software you can download to clone your old drive to the new drive

white osprey
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im not really to clear on the windows installation process either

torn glade
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normally windows has 2 ways to install it

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using dvd drive or usb stick

white osprey
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i thought u go to website and install it

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o

torn glade
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there are other ways but they get tricky like using a old usb hard drive or network boot

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you can go to the website and download windows 10 yes

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but as soon as you try to run it it will try to install on the current drive you're install it from

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hmmmmmmmmmmmm

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maybe if you're lucky and don't break your current windows install

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you could install the new drive in your old system as a second drive

white osprey
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so if i download windows on ssd it will try to install

torn glade
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idk if they changed this or not cuz I normally install from a dvd, or stick, or drive

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but at one point you could start the install for windows when in windows

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reboot when it wants to reboot

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and once it comes to the section what drive you want to install

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you could pick the new drive

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but idk if that even works these days

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and you might end up messing your current windows install if it does not lololol

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on this old desktop

white osprey
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damn

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well

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guess i have to buy a flash drive

torn glade
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yup

white osprey
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thats tilting

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well

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ty

torn glade
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hmmmmmmmmm

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maybe just maybe there is another way but you might lose some drive capacity on the new ssd

white osprey
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idk

torn glade
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and idk if the installer will even let you do it

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and you need your old pc to do it first

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put the new drive in the old desktop as a second drive

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you have to mark the drive as active

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run the installer and tell it to make the iso

white osprey
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so

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maybe i am over simplyfying

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but

torn glade
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it's tricky but one second I find what I'm talking about on a website

white osprey
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can i download windows on ssd then switch the ssd to new pc and install it

torn glade
#

idk if that will work for internal drives

#

you could put the new ssd in the old desktop as a second drive, and use it to prep the new ssd drive as the install media another partition on the new drive as the install source

#

but you will lose some space on the new ssd doing this cuz of the new partition

white osprey
#

how much ?

torn glade
#

at least 8 to 16GB

#

prob closer to 16GB

white osprey
#

that doesnt seem that bad

torn glade
#

it's not a permanent lost cuz if it don't work you can use you old pc to just delete all the partitons

#

to make it all one big drive again

white osprey
#

i dont think id know where to start

#

i have no idea how to do that

#

but i think i might know someone who does

torn glade
#

start by downloading windows 10 from the ms site

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the download tool button

#

run that tool and once it ask you make an iso image you can burn pic that option

#

this is also the same tool you use the make a usb stick for the install

#

it's the same tool

white osprey
#

id have to install my ssd in my old pc first right?

torn glade
#

yes

#

and get that tool

#

once that is done tell me lolol

white osprey
#

i dont even know how to install a ssd

#

i think this will take some time

torn glade
#

you built this old pc ?

white osprey
#

yes

#

i was babied the whole way

#

and some of it was done for me

torn glade
#

oh ok

white osprey
#

like installing windows

torn glade
#

you need a sata cable to plug the ssd to the mobo

#

and a power connector to the ssd

#

normally the mobo should pick it up unless someone set the bios from auto detect to none but we will pretend it's on auto

white osprey
#

its the stick lookin ssd

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nvme m.2

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i thought u just

#

latch it on the mobo or smth like that

torn glade
#

ohhhhhhhhhh

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so your new ssd is a m.2

white osprey
#

yes

torn glade
#

get up and go get a usb stick then hahahahahaha

white osprey
#

damn it

still roostBOT
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white osprey
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2nd time ive seen this happen now

jade kestrel
#

Oopsie

stoic island
#

next is perm ban iirc

white osprey
#

this flash drive good for windows installation?

#

only walmart so i can pick it up

sand falcon
#

Yup

wary geode
#

I use it lol

#

I have 16gb 50c cheaper

sand falcon
#

I too have that drive

wary geode
#

I mean you could get this

#

Unnessary but a flex

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Lol jk get the 16 or 32gb I use those and they are fine

full elk
#

detention

viral ore
jade kestrel
#

I want one

viral ore
#

There's only ~1200 of them

jade kestrel
#

now that would be a thing to clone and sell

little osprey
#

Yeah I’m never gonna get one

#

Very limited and probably quite expensive

#

I need help with a build that I’ve put together

white osprey
#

Is there supposed to be another screw that comes with the mobo to install m.2 ssd?

fast dust
#

Usually. It also sometimes comes with the SSD itself

white osprey
#

Cant find one any where

#

This is my first time

#

No screw in site

fast dust
#

What motherboard

white osprey
#

B550M DS3H

fast dust
#

They usually come in little baggies in the box

#

You bought this motherboard new I’m guessing?

white osprey
#

Got a io shield and a disk

fast dust
#

Hm. Weird

white osprey
#

Checked the mobo 2x

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Box

little leaf
#

on the ds3h I'm pretty sure thescrew is instaled

white osprey
#

It looks like i have to unscrew then screw again?

little leaf
#

yes

white osprey
#

Knife work ?!

fast dust
#

I guess maybe

white osprey
#

All i have is knife

little leaf
#

no....

white osprey
#

Didnt work first time

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Ill try and find a dif one

fast dust
#

I mean if it works it works lol

little leaf
#

lmao

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don'

#

don't break the traces though

white osprey
#

I think that is slowly happening

#

I think there is 2 m.2 slots

#

So i got 2 tries ig

honest ridge
#

i have a confession @potent prairie i do want a micro board

#

mine is micro and i just thought it was standard

potent prairie
#

Those are two nice looking ones

honest ridge
coarse mural
#

friends i have 500 $ to build a pc
I was thinking of an i3 9100f + Rx570
what dou you recommend? Thank you

honest ridge
#

@potent prairie i had these from earlier

next kestrel
#

@coarse mural a ryzen 1600 and a 1650 super?

coarse mural
#

maybe is better?

little leaf
#

@next kestrel 1600 not in stock

next kestrel
#

:((

coarse mural
#

:((

next kestrel
#

i mean then the 3100

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for 110

#

also sounds fine

potent prairie
#

@potent prairie i had these from earlier
@honest ridge I'd say asrock, but just b/c I don't really like gigabyte. Up to aesthetics (and asrock has a few more ports)

coarse mural
#

or maybe a ryzen 5 2600 but only with the rx 570

little leaf
#

something like this

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or amd 3100

next kestrel
#

thats gonna be a gpu bottleneck

little leaf
#

is better

coarse mural
#

I don't have any more money 😦

little leaf
#

The 3100 isn't in stock

#

so

honest ridge
#

thanks @potent prairie

next kestrel
#

on b/h it is

little leaf
#

is it?

next kestrel
#

in stock

#

idk why not show up on pcpp

little leaf
#

found it

#

oh no psu lmao

coarse mural
#

What board are the Ryzen 3100 with?@next kestrel

next kestrel
#

a320, b350, b450

#

thats prob what u want to get

coarse mural
#

b450

next kestrel
#

this one has b450, 16gb 3200 ram, 3200, and 1650 super

#

but the case is a bit iffy

little leaf
#

thats ssd isn't enough to get a single aa games now a days

next kestrel
#

true

#

lower to 8gb ram then?

little leaf
#

I think go to the 9100f

#

and save and get more storage

#

it doesn't effect it that much

next kestrel
#

true

coarse mural
#

I guess I'll wait for them to bring the Ryzen 3100

little leaf
#

something like this then

next kestrel
#

hes right the 9100f build is p good

#

if u get go to a microcenter its better

#

because i think its much cheaper ther

#

Id prob go with lower ram for intel?

#

esp on a h310 board

little leaf
#

oh ye lmao forgot intel did that

coarse mural
#

I saw that the i3 9100f supports 2400mhz

next kestrel
#

no need for 3200mhz ram

#

ok its 2 dollars cheaper lmao

#

might as well get the 3200 then lol

white osprey
#

Trying to install my cpu

#

When i lower the lever i hear a small crunch like noise

coarse mural
#

I'll be right back

white osprey
#

So i stop lowering it

#

Is that normal

#

Or is the cpu in wrong?

slender owl
#

I’ve never had a crunching noise

#

When you put the cpu in it should just go right down.

white osprey
#

I keep trying to put it down

#

But it feels like 1 corner is not in

#

I dont want to try and pull down the lever and hear a crunch noise again

slender owl
#

Are any pins bent on your cpu?

white osprey
#

Doesnt look like it

jade kestrel
#

crunching and cpu should never be a thing

slender owl
#

^

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Are you putting the cpu in right?

#

Triangle line up.(if there are triangles on yours)

white osprey
#

I dont think im lining it up correctly

#

Yes the triangle are correct

slender owl
#

What cpu and motherboard?

white osprey
#

Ryzen 3600 B550M DS3H

#

Honesltly might just be bad at lining it up?

#

I stopped as soon as i heard the slightest crackle when pushing down the lever

stark bramble
#

theres a tiny triangle on the cpu corner

white osprey
#

Yes

stark bramble
#

line it up with the tiny dot on the mobo

white osprey
#

I lined it up

stark bramble
#

then just drop it

#

and touch it down

white osprey
#

I think i suck at it or smth

stark bramble
#

can u send a pic

white osprey
#

Of what exactly

stark bramble
#

you trying to put it in

slender owl
#

Video maybe?

white osprey
#

Ok

#

Ill send vid

stark bramble
#

u got it?

#

o

white osprey
#

Idk

stark bramble
#

it you wiggle it a bit and it doesnt move

#

ur good

white osprey
#

I feel like if i put lever down there will be another crackle

#

It wont wiggle

#

Ill try the lever again

#

Again

slender owl
#

Does it crackle when the cpu isn’t in?

white osprey
#

No

#

Only when pushing lever down

stark bramble
#

it crackled again?

white osprey
#

Its very small crackle

stark bramble
#

try pushing it down w/o the cpu

#

does it crackle

white osprey
#

No

stark bramble
#

hmmm

slender owl
#

Interesting

#

Do you have an old cpu at all?

white osprey
#

Yeah

slender owl
#

One you don’t really mind if it breaks

white osprey
#

I do mind

#

Giving it to my niece

slender owl
#

Try an old cpu to see if it vrackles

white osprey
#

I think its the top left

jade kestrel
#

maybe take a close look at the socket if you've got a magnifying glass or smth

white osprey
#

Thats not in

slender owl
#

Make sure nothing is in any of the cpu hole on the motherboard

jade kestrel
#

also check the chip pins and make sure none are out of line

little osprey
#

Hey how is everyone, will appreciate if I can get help with my first pc build. Thanks

slender owl
#

What do you need help with @little osprey

little osprey
#

Can’t get it pass the reboot screen

#

I can post a pic if needed

white osprey
#

So whats the consequence of a few broken pins

little osprey
#

It says reboot and select proper boot device

white osprey
#

Their fine rn

#

But im about to just pull the damn lever

slender owl
#

Broken pins = non usable cpu

white osprey
#

Even if its just 1

#

I honestly cant tell if im just really bad at lining up the cpu or of im being overly cautious

honest ridge
#

i officially ordered my parts. thanks to all that helped me. @fast dust @potent prairie and anyone else

little osprey
#

On the boot option, there is only one... is that normal. The name is Sabrent Rocket Q

slender owl
#

Cpu line up is easy. Test every way

#

Only slides in one way

white osprey
#

So when pulling down the lever should i expect to be completely silent

#

I find it hard to believe id mess up the cpu line up this many times

slender owl
#

Mine always was

#

@little osprey have you installed windows and everything already?

white osprey
#

I think im just gonna go for it

slender owl
#

👍 good luck

little osprey
#

No I haven’t installed anything that’s the first thing I see when the pc turns on, so I didn’t know what to do

slender owl
little osprey
#

Great @slender owl thank you really appreciate it

slender owl
#

No problem

viral ore
midnight pelican
#

it says u had to b at e3

viral ore
#

Yep

midnight pelican
#

where u?

viral ore
#

Nope

#

Lol

sullen spoke
#

yes he was

#

i saw him there

viral ore
#

Haha I wish

midnight pelican
#

did u get it off ebay lmao

#

its going for $150 on ebay Oh_No

viral ore
#

Sadly yes, I didn't win the GeForce experience contest

#

Oh seriously? I got mine for 50

midnight pelican
#

oh dang

#

i guess it was a good investment

viral ore
#

It was a while ago tho, so the price of something like this goes up over time

#

Nah, this isn't an investment, because I will never sell it

#

It's too special

midnight pelican
#

lol

#

theres a few for over $300

viral ore
#

Crazy

midnight pelican
#

too much

#

im going to buy it

viral ore
#

Yeah, I got mine when the eBay price was 50-60

#

80 max

midnight pelican
#

dang thats cool

viral ore
#

Ik, it sits atop my GTX 1080 FE

robust plover
#

Is a USB wifi adapter good or is it bad

#

Cause I dont know if it is

sullen spoke
#

if you are planning to use the wifi long term, i'd go pcie

velvet rock
#

Hello everyone

#

I just built a computer and turned it on for the first time

stoic island
#

nice

velvet rock
#

yeah in uefi bios

#

right meow

robust plover
#

Ok

velvet rock
#

So i need a windows key i was gonna just down load a code

#

well buy the code

#

then put it on a flash drive and have the pc boot from there?

silk estuary
#

Uh?

#

You need to download the windows media installation tool onto a flash drive

#

Or something like that

#

The code comes with your purchase, and isn't downloaded

velvet rock
#

so the initial code is like 100 bucks right and if i buy that it will come with everything i need

white osprey
#

How hard should ram be to push down?

silk estuary
#

It's sticky

#

Push down firmly

white osprey
#

Scared its jusy gonna break or smth

silk estuary
#

Also @velvet rock I've got a legit website that has super cheap windows codes

velvet rock
#

well the guy i bought my video card from has some for like 20 bucks but was saying that you cant change a wallpaper?

silk estuary
#

bruh

#

hes scamming you

#

That's a windows demo

white osprey
#

LOL

robust plover
#

What's a good $150 gpu

silk estuary
#

Go to the website I posted

white osprey
#

Prolly says activate windows in settings on the bottom righy

velvet rock
#

im willing to pay the 100 bucks just so its easy and taken care of, but if there is no diff then i spose

silk estuary
#

It's not different

#

I got my windows key from it

robust plover
#

What's a good $150 gpu

fast dust
#

1650 super. RX 570/580

white osprey
#

I feel like im pushing down firmly on my ram sticks and their not going in

velvet rock
#

make sure its the right direction make sure the pins are right

#

oem version or retail version

white osprey
#

I got it

sullen spoke
#

this is link to retail https://software-codes.com/collections/top-sale/products/windows-10-pro , if i were you i would only buy it when im about to put the product key in, there is a chance it might not work if you don't use it right away from what i hear. you can install windows without this(just skip product key) and enter it in windows settings > activation once you are in windows @velvet rock

Software-codes
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Retail KEY

Shop for Windows 10 professional retail keys. Experience the best out of windows. Buy Windows 10 license from the Software Codes. Best product at the best price

velvet rock
#

I should do PRO?

silk estuary
#

I did pro

velvet rock
#

is this all going to be digital

sullen spoke
#

pro is cheaper anyway, it honestly doesn't matter tho

velvet rock
#

ok I am getting it now

#

So down load this code onto a flash drive insert said flash drive into Computer and tell it to boot from there

silk estuary
#

No, you don't download the code. Go to the link it gives you, and make your usb a windows media tool

#

Or whatever its called

sullen spoke
velvet rock
#

doing that now

robust plover
#

So this guy said that you budget should be at least $1,000 is that true

#

To get a ok pc

silk estuary
#

no

#

maybe a decent pre built

robust plover
#

Ok

keen moss
#

1k can get you an amazing system

#

if you build yourself

robust plover
#

Will a 13 9100f, rx 570 and 16 gb ram run rainbow six siege good

keen moss
#

i’d get a better graphics card

#

like a gtx 1060ti

robust plover
#

Ok how much

keen moss
#

if you’re going to just play r6

#

well if your budget is 1000 you could get a better card than that

robust plover
#

No it's not

keen moss
#

ok what’s your budget

robust plover
#

500ish

keen moss
#

hmm

#

ok

#

i’d say ryzen 3 1300x and a gtx 1650 super

#

and then a $100 motherboard and like a 550 watt power supply

robust plover
#

Well what about ram and storage

keen moss
#

oh right lol

limber yew
#

hey im new to the server but can i get some help for some parts to pick out for my pc

keen moss
#

sure

limber yew
#

my budget is 4000-4500 for the whole setup

robust plover
#

What lucky

keen moss
limber yew
#

i worked for the money so my parents said i could do what i want

keen moss
#

for $500

robust plover
#

Ok

keen moss
#

you don’t need 4500 dollars

#

but you could use it i guess

limber yew
#

i just don't want to replace things any time soon

keen moss
#

maybe ryzen 5 3600x and a rtx 2080 ti

desert gulch
#

Wait for awhile

#

Until the 3000 series comes out

#

If you can

keen moss
#

oh yeah the 3080

limber yew
#

I heard abt the 3000 series it'll bump down the 2000's by a couple hundred maybe

keen moss
#

wow really

limber yew
#

i'll probably wait until christmas or later i dont need the pc rn

desert gulch
#

With that kind of budget tho, it's definitely worth waiting

keen moss
#

i need to wait

desert gulch
#

Good idea

keen moss
#

yeah dude 4500 is crazy

#

for a first build

jade kestrel
#

except the 2000 series is going out of production, so they'll be hard to get.

keen moss
#

😦

limber yew
#

i just need pc part picking help

desert gulch
#

I had a 1k budget

keen moss
#

i wanted a 2080

robust plover
#

Where did you find those parts

desert gulch
#

And I still have a 5700xt and r5 3600

keen moss
#

but i just didn’t have the money

robust plover
#

Ok

white osprey
#

Installing my mobo and only 1 screw went in

#

It feels sturdy

limber yew
#

it's $700 for a 2080 but if u go onto microcenter.com they'll probably have it for lower

white osprey
#

Is it good?

limber yew
#

is what good?

desert gulch
#

We're your standoffs in the rights place?

white osprey
#

I tried screwing in others

desert gulch
#

The things in the case that sit behind the screws?

white osprey
#

But the screws wouldnt go in

#

Yes

desert gulch
#

Did they feel like empty space?

limber yew
#

oh yeah just make sure the screws are tightened well enough

white osprey
#

If the screws were longer they could go on

robust plover
#

Man if I had a budget of that idk what I would do

white osprey
#

In*

desert gulch
#

They should be pretty short screws

white osprey
#

They are

desert gulch
#

I think your standoffs are wrong

white osprey
#

Only 1 went in

desert gulch
#

What board?

#

Atx?

white osprey
#

Micro

desert gulch
#

Is it a mid tower case?

white osprey
#

B550M DS3H

limber yew
#

i was thinking of going for a i9-10900k but im going with a ryzen 9 3900xt for my cpu it saves me $40

white osprey
#

Believe its mid tower

desert gulch
#

I bet your standoffs are wrong

white osprey
#

Theres 9 total

desert gulch
#

Mobo should come in contact with the standoffs

limber yew
#

probably cuz everything should fit together as it is

white osprey
#

So now what?

#

How do allign them

#

Their on top of each other but not touching

desert gulch
#

is your mobo bent?

white osprey
#

I dont think so

desert gulch
#

post a picture of it if you can

limber yew
#

yeah try that cuz they should be in contact

white osprey
#

Top left is in

#

No

#

Top right

#

Sorry

desert gulch
#

take a pic of a hole where they wont go in

#

so we can see the standofff and gap

white osprey
#

Kind of hard to do

desert gulch
#

yeah idk

white osprey
#

It feels like it wont fall

limber yew
#

were there any other screws that u didnt see?

desert gulch
#

i wouldnt trust it personally

white osprey
#

The other screws wouldnt work

desert gulch
#

is it fully lined up on the standoffs?

limber yew
#

tuff

desert gulch
#

like try wiggling it

white osprey
#

Its lined up but not making contact

#

I think it might have to do with the io shield

limber yew
#

ohhh did u screw in the first screw all the way in?

white osprey
#

Kind of

desert gulch
#

yeah actually you might wanna try loosing it a little

#

then thread all the others in

white osprey
#

Ok

desert gulch
#

and tighten slowly

white osprey
#

Ill try

limber yew
#

ur suppose to screw all the screws a little bit at a time so they'll equally go in if that makes sense

#

into the standoffs^

white osprey
#

How worth is a io shield?

#

If i take it out and everything screws

#

Should i just not have the io shield

limber yew
#

the io shield just helps align the mobo with the standoffs and it prevents things from being damaged as u plug and unplug cables

#

but overall u don't particularly need it i would keep it on

tepid basalt
#

io shield is to preven insect from entering your case

limber yew
#

that too

#

i still never got help to pick out my parts rip

tepid basalt
#

imagine waking up one day and see a family of cockroaches in it

limber yew
#

nah i can't have roaches im my computer

white osprey
#

If roaches wanna get in

#

Theyll get in

#

Anyways i think the case is just uneven

limber yew
#

did u check the compatibility of everything before you got the parts?

white osprey
#

I got the build from here

#

Nobody said anuthing about yhe case

limber yew
#

okay well id just double check everything you've done and you'll probably find the problem

white osprey
#

Damn it

limber yew
#

it is what it is

white osprey
#

Ive figured it out

#

Its this little thing

#

My mobo hole wont go through all the way

#

Anybody know how to fix this?

tepid basalt
#

it's a stand off

#

you're supposed to put your mobo on it and then screw

white osprey
#

Mobo doesmt go down all the way

#

And you cant screw it

#

It goes down partly then leaves the mobo cricked

deep skiff
#

do u have the standoff?

jade kestrel
#

That doesn't look like the standoff has a hole in it

tepid basalt
#

there's something in the stand off hole already

#

look for a way to remove it

white osprey
#

No way to remove it i dont think

#

No option to screw

#

Or unscrew

jade kestrel
#

swap it for a different standoff

white osprey
#

Cant take it out

#

Case came like that

#

Maybe if i could unscrew it from the botto.

tepid basalt
#

you need a plier

white osprey
#

But i dont have a tool like that