#building-and-recc-chat

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tepid basalt
little osprey
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Yep

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You can’t find it on amazon anymore

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Is there anything else you need

tepid basalt
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this one's fine

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no need to change it

little osprey
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Thanks man

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How do you know

tepid basalt
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unless there's something really wrong with it

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look at the 12v rail

little osprey
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Nah I just don’t want my expensive equipment to get fried or something

drifting timber
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anyone know when ryzen 4000 or nvidia 3000 is coming out?

jolly tusk
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Am I okay using the stock cooler on a Ryzen 5 3600 and a MSI 2070

drifting timber
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yes

jolly tusk
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Okay. My case is set with enough air fans and air flow to try and be of help. Hopefully it’s not overly loud. Im sure at worst it may be a minor brush that will only annoy those who like super quiet PCs

drifting timber
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yeahy

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you benchmark your system yet?

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use that to see how your pc is performing

jolly tusk
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Not yet. I’m still waiting on some parts to arrive

eager chasm
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User benchmark is pretty Garbage

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The free version of 3D mark is more accurate

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For comparative performance

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Or Cinebench

plucky island
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which one of these would u recommend?

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for a 1660s and a 3300dx

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x*

vital cosmos
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probably the ASRock B450M Pro4-F Micro for the 4 RAM slots and i prefer Asrock over Gigabyte

drifting imp
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I’m trying to replace my old monitor and I’m trying to decide whether or not to get G-Sync to match my GTX 1660 S graphics card but the majority of monitors that have G-Sync are over my limit, is it worth it to get G-Sync?

fast dust
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You can activate GSync or something on freesync monitors. I forget the details, but you’ll be fine.

drifting imp
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Oh! Kay, cause whenever I look for G-Sync 1440p and 144 Hz monitors it always is over $350 for the monitors.

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I’d prefer to spend between $250 to $300 for at least a 1440p 144 Hz monitor.

analog hearth
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@torn glade PSU probably goes behind the mobo tray (keep chatting out of #build-pics, btw)

torn glade
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could be

torn glade
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third party selling it trying to make a buck like always ?

hollow bridge
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but jeez

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14k+

torn glade
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idk if this is really in it

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but 5TB drive capacity

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128GB RAM

hollow bridge
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What is thing even trying to run?

torn glade
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quadro would bring it up rtx 6000

hollow bridge
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Mining rigs?

torn glade
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thread ripper also

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looks more like a workstation to me

hollow bridge
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I see

torn glade
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for what is in it I would use it as a workstation for design, animation, and so on, and for sures gaming lololol

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and it says dual quadro cards

hollow bridge
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Ikr

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def not worth 14k though

stark bramble
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fax

torn glade
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idk let me try to build it

stark bramble
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14k kinda nezukoYikes

nocturne folio
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if i send a list here with a place holder for the gpu and cpu but the ret is pretty much staying and with out attacking things right off the bat like the amount of storage there is and how there ist room for upgradability in the ram area lmao

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i have a big budget lmao

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5kcad

hollow bridge
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What is this for?

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gaming?

torn glade
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you could game yeah

dusky depot
torn glade
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but I woul do more than just gaming with it, like making blue prints, 3d design, video editing, engineering stuff

hollow bridge
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6k profit

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ez

torn glade
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it's prob the dual nividia quadro rtx 6000 making it that price let me look at the price for them cards

nocturne folio
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its for gaming,editing(photo/video) streaming and blender use lol games range fro sims to tomb raider and rdr2

torn glade
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yeah it's the two gpu's they are like 4000 to 5000 a piece

nocturne folio
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and the cpu and gpu are place holders or the next gen stuff

torn glade
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the cpu in it is about 1,800

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so the price is the two quadro cards in it making it like 10k more on the cost

nocturne folio
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whats that pc for exactly and why do you need server grade

torn glade
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so that pc is like really maybe 3 to 4k and add the two gpu's another 8 to 10k

nocturne folio
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but why

torn glade
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idk lolololol for people at home they don't need it

nocturne folio
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what do you plan on doing after you spend the price of a honda civic on a pc

torn glade
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if you are some one with money sure why not lololol

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and if you're someone that uses it for actual work that it's made for well good for you lolol

nocturne folio
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i have money and even im only gonna be spending like 5k

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cad

hollow bridge
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I have money but I’m gonna just spend 1k on a pc

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It’s not like gaming is going to be my life

nocturne folio
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lmao

hollow bridge
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Just a side hobby

torn glade
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yes pretty much

hollow bridge
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u can get a pretty good pc for 1k

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Not a streaming one but a pretty good one

nocturne folio
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not for 1kcad tho

hollow bridge
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true

torn glade
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yeah every day normal computer usage, office work, and some casual/light gaming on a 1k pc nothing fancy

nocturne folio
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740usd does get much

hollow bridge
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I don’t like RGB

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epilepsy

torn glade
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yeah poop

hollow bridge
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lol

torn glade
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I never wanted rgb in my new rig but most of the parts I wanted has rgb so I'm stuck with it lololol and it's just turned off

hollow bridge
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nice

torn glade
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I do have to say a keyboard that has rgb is nice if it's dark and your playing games, you can just turn it on and use it as a back light

nocturne folio
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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/vbDTQq okay here is the list the cpu and gpu are place holders the reason for the 9tb of storage is for the 80 things in my stea wishlist and the other 20 games i already own lmao and raw footage and photos lol also id get cheaper fas but i like everything to be the same lmao

vivid coral
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So I was putting a bass line build together.....

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Originally I would had a 2060ko with a 3600

hollow bridge
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Facebook marketplace is bomb

vivid coral
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Then I went up to 2060 super

nocturne folio
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are you actually the rock

vivid coral
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And now I'm at 2070

hollow bridge
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No

torn glade
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lolol

vivid coral
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I want to stream do VR

hollow bridge
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He’s Dwayne Johnson

vivid coral
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Play games stream games

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Video rendering and editing

nocturne folio
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john cena is better anyway

vivid coral
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Is a 3600 or a 3600x still good for that

nocturne folio
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better actor to

vivid coral
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And 16gigs of ram

hollow bridge
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that’s good

vivid coral
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I think it was 3000 speed idk

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Ok

nocturne folio
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nobody honna talk to me oof

hollow bridge
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uhh

torn glade
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lolol

vivid coral
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Because my demands changed so drastically I kept going up in gpus

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But left the same processor on my list I just didn't know if I would have to go up a processor because of my more demanding demands

hollow bridge
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Why do u have so many case fans

torn glade
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to be honest I could be wrong but the ryzen 5 3600 / 3600X / 3600XT are pretty much the same cpu and they have a 3600 PRO one too now

vivid coral
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Ok

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They know if I would have to go to like a 3700

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Or Intel

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Does originally I just wanted to play games and stream which is why I had a 2060

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Then I wanted to do VR so I went to a 2060 super

nocturne folio
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me?

vivid coral
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Then I added all that other stuff in like streaming VR and video rendering and I just figured I would do it 2070

nocturne folio
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the case fans are to replace the stock fans lmao and id have 7 in there but i dont need 3 on the aio

torn glade
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I did the same thing I replaced my stock fans

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I have the asus rog strix case and the fans in them are meh and just dc and the case controls them

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so I took them out put two fan controllers 3 fans on each controller

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got some 140mm high speed bequiet fans pulse width ones

vivid coral
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When I build my PC I'll probably just plug them all into a controller so I only have to use one hedder on the motherboard

potent prairie
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The rog helios case you mean?

torn glade
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put 3front fans one controller and plug that in the mobo, and two top ones and one back on in the other controller and plugged that in the mobo

nocturne folio
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i have a feeling the pebble is like 12

stoic island
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Think they also made a strix case

torn glade
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so I have two zones front and top/back

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took the stock amd cooler out and put that rock 4 pro bequiet tower on

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yeah the helios

still roostBOT
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Ateta#8919 has been warned

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potent prairie
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Think they also made a strix case
@stoic island I think the only other one that is out is the tuf case

torn glade
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yes

stoic island
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Alright

nocturne folio
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tbh if one person complains about the quality of my videos in 12 months imma flip

stoic island
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Just remember they made smth other than the Helios

potent prairie
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yeah the helios
@torn glade Nice, I got that too. Moded mine to be iCue compatible.

torn glade
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sweet

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I did not bother with rgb fans

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already enough rgb in my build lmfao

potent prairie
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Lol, never enough

torn glade
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lolol

outer heart
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hows this for a $500 build

torn glade
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looks nice

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it's relaxing to look at

potent prairie
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Make sure you don't buy win10 for full price @outer heart

outer heart
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does it come installed?

torn glade
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yeah there are some sites that sell OEM version of 10 for like a few dollars and they work fine

potent prairie
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Yeah

outer heart
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ok cool

torn glade
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just make sure you use paypal on these sites if they let you, cuz some I don't trust with my credit card directly tho lololol

potent prairie
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SSD is trash

outer heart
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what sould i replace it with

nocturne folio
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it comes back clean 0 results found from reverse image searching

potent prairie
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what sould i replace it with
@outer heart working on that

outer heart
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kk thank you

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Seagate Barracuda Compute?

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2tb

torn glade
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I see people getting these team group ssd never used them myself

stoic island
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Mp34

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Just mp34 all the other team m.2 SSDs kinda suck

potent prairie
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I mean an hhd would be better than that ssd, but there are other options

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Just mp34 all the other team m.2 SSDs kinda suck
@stoic island Yh, but only 256 offer rn is pricegouging

stoic island
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Ah prices wack

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How's the Team Vulcan look for price

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Or sn750

potent prairie
outer heart
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looks good

torn glade
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this is the one I got myself for my first m.2 drive

outer heart
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thank you

torn glade
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you could get the 500GB version to save on money if you wanted and they come on sale often

potent prairie
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I think the crucial may be better on such a tight budget

torn glade
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yeah the 250GB cheap price too

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I did not bother getting a pci-e 4.0 drive when I built my rig cuz there was not many options at the time and they run hot, over time I hope it gets better, way more companies make them now

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but most of them have a good read speed but crappy write speed on them

outer heart
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would i need any fans

potent prairie
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Budget case should have some fans

outer heart
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looks like the case comes with one

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yeah

potent prairie
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is the $500 budget tight?

torn glade
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if you had one front fan inline with the gpu and one rear fan inline behind the cpu area of the mobo, you would be fine

outer heart
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100 give or take

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just want like 100 frames and quick loading

still roostBOT
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cdmlb#3500 has been warned

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torn glade
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I guess it don't like I say poop

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lololol

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poop even 60 consistently would be good on a budget lols

outer heart
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i get 60 right now on my laptop

torn glade
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with low settings ?

outer heart
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meed to high

torn glade
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ok

outer heart
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ill send the specs

torn glade
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what you planning on for a monitor ?

outer heart
potent prairie
outer heart
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i’ve got this as a monitor

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i like it

torn glade
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well you're going to end up with two gpu's cuz one is in that cpu

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and yeah makes sense to go with a b450 since that cpu only supports pci-e 3.0 anyways

potent prairie
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well you're going to end up with two gpu's cuz one is in that cpu
@torn glade it happens

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integrated graphics really don't count

outer heart
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whats dual gpu

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or is it bad

little osprey
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Any good pc builds for about $500-$800?

potent prairie
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He is saying that because the 3200G has integrated graphics. You'd use one or the other. True dual GPU would be smth like SLI, which is overated

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Any good pc builds for about $500-$800?
@little osprey One sec

little osprey
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Ok thanks

potent prairie
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@little osprey What are you using it for? You care about RGB at all?

torn glade
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build the same rig as ryam lolol

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and you would have about 500 to 800

outer heart
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yeah you could just add more powerful stuff in some places if you want

potent prairie
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Same as Ryam, but better ssd and gpu

outer heart
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yee

little osprey
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@little osprey What are you using it for? You care about RGB at all?
@potent prairie not really my biggest concern as long as the pc runs good

potent prairie
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K. I'd do something like what I linked

little osprey
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Ok lemme take a look

outer heart
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oh whats the difference between Ti and non Ti

torn glade
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I have a amd rx 5700 and compare to the xt model and I'm like well almost the same gpu so I saved a little bit of money just getting the non xt model, if it's on sale and is about the same price well the xt model I would of gotten but I saved at the time like $150

potent prairie
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Ti is better. To my knowledge, AMD has better offerings at that pricepoint

outer heart
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so go with ti

silk estuary
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@wary geode what is all that for lmao

outer heart
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30 more

torn glade
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that's them side by side

little osprey
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@potent prairie would there be room for a 1tb hdd in that build?

torn glade
torn glade
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bottom of the page click full specs

potent prairie
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@potent prairie would there be room for a 1tb hdd in that build?
@little osprey Lemmie see

wary geode
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@silk estuary a start up hotel I work for

silk estuary
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Ahh

wary geode
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Pays 18/hr but it’s hardddd work

torn glade
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poop

wary geode
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I hate any TVs now

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So dumb why can’t they come assembled

torn glade
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lol

wary geode
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If you are paying for prebuilt TVs they should work out the box

torn glade
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the stand part ?

outer heart
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it not that hard lol

torn glade
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lolol

outer heart
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i have pinched my fingers a few time if they are tight

torn glade
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how many TVs did you do ?

outer heart
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thats not fun

potent prairie
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@little osprey

outer heart
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can i buy used stuff

little osprey
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Yes?

outer heart
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like is the performance deraded

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degraded*

stark bramble
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@potent prairie u have 30 extra dollars to spend, i think u can get ryzen 5 3600

torn glade
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depends what they did with it

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did they OC it, how old is it, did it run hot all the time, etc.

potent prairie
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@potent prairie u have 30 extra dollars to spend, i think u can get ryzen 5 3600
@stark bramble fair point

little osprey
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@potent prairie thanks man I'ma save that link for once I get the money I'll but it

potent prairie
stark bramble
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yea

outer heart
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so ask em first

torn glade
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they will lie lololol

outer heart
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google says if it was used for mining, no go

torn glade
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if it all just ran stock clocks and ran average temps and they turned the pc off when not used, and it's just maybe 1 to 2 years it should be fine also depends who built it too.

stoic island
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Hi

outer heart
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ok good to know

torn glade
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like if I built a rig and had no clue how to do it maybe I bent the pins, or static shocked stuff or put paste all over the place

potent prairie
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Hi
@stoic island Sorry for the tag lol, I fel insecure about my budget build choices and tagged you for help

stoic island
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Is ok

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Do your thing

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APUs arnt good btw

outer heart
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optical drives are for cds right

stoic island
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Ye

outer heart
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i dont need cds

torn glade
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who even uses an optical drive these days

outer heart
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so no od

torn glade
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you can install windows using usb stick

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if you're fancy even over the network lols

stoic island
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People use it for cd reasons

torn glade
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old people

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lol

potent prairie
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I have a usb one in the very small chance I need one

torn glade
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last time I burned a cd or dvd was like 2014

outer heart
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510 is very appealing to me

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current price

torn glade
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last time I install a os using a cd or dvd prob about 2014 also

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most things for years now can boot from usb and install from usb

little osprey
outer heart
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G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 CL19

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this is what i get

stoic island
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What about it

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That's a crappy ram kit it seems

outer heart
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what would you reccomend

stoic island
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@little osprey I'd swap the blue out for the p1

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Aegis 3200mhz cl16 kit

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@little osprey and put the R5 3600 back in please

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For the case, you could do mx330-g or focus g

little osprey
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And than what cpu cooler?

stoic island
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Stock

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Or gammaxx 200 if you're worried about noise or temps

potent prairie
outer heart
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can i go cheaper on power supply

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instead of an 8- dollar one

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80

stoic island
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Don't completely cheap out but there might be some decent PSUs

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Actually it's 70$ what's wrong with it

potent prairie
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That's pretty much the cheapest I would be comfortable with. I'd go used beyond that (even tho most people here would say not to, you can be perfectly fine w/ a used/open box psu)

stoic island
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Open box yes

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Used I don't trust cables :p

outer heart
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its 85

stoic island
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Refurb for sure is good

potent prairie
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Manufactor refurb is for sure good

stoic island
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Shows as 70

potent prairie
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Seller refurb carrys the same risks that used does

outer heart
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you are talking about his

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thats why

stoic island
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Oh

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Wrong list then

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Use that PSU

outer heart
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haha yea

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i will

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25 saved

potent prairie
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🙂

torn glade
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a few things to remember if you use a cpu that only supports pci-e 3.0 don't bother with b550 or x570 you only need up to b450, but if you buy a cpu that supports pci-e 4.0 get b550 or x570, why waste money if things are disabled, and also b450 and b550 boards are almost the same price so why not spend $8 more to get something current for the next 5 years or longer and just buy the cpu that goes with it

stoic island
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Because ds3h lol

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Saves 40$ compared to a cheap b550 board

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Quite a dent in the budget

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It's not just 8$

torn glade
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yeah it is just $8

little osprey
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Aaaa

stoic island
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Show me

potent prairie
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Even if you have one that supports it, gen 4 isn't nessiarly worth it

torn glade
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I looked up the parts and did just b450 and b550 boards they are almost the same price

stoic island
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B450 ds3h is 73$

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Cheapest b550 starts at 94$ out of stock

torn glade
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what's the point of building a new rig you can't upgrade ?

potent prairie
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You can upgrade

stoic island
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Next cheapest is 110$

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@torn glade you know, a 5700xt is technically a PCIe 4.0 card, but it still doesn't saturate PCIe 3.0 x16 lanes

potent prairie
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You won't be able to have gen 4 speeds, but that isn't a big deal rn

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yh

torn glade
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exactly

stoic island
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Putting a 2080ti that's close to saturating PCIe 3.0 x16 lanes in a PC with only PCIe 2.0 x16 lanes still work

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At reduced speeds

torn glade
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right now it's not a big deal but in maybe 2 years it might and after you would have to build a new rig again wasting more money

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pay the little extra now

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to save more money after

stoic island
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It doesn't completely limit your options

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And in budget builds, it allows for more longevity

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Why would you need to switch in 2 years?

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Give me a why

torn glade
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spend the extra $40 now instead of having to spend another $500 to like $800

stoic island
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There are tons of good GPUs that are still PCIe 3.0

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What's your point

potent prairie
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Like intel doesn't even have PCIe 4 yet

stoic island
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Yea lmfao

potent prairie
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Not a big deal

stoic island
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Why would you need to spend an extra 500-800$ ???

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I don't get it

torn glade
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the extra 500 to 800 is if you built a new rig again

stoic island
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Even if you just want a b550 board for some reason, extra 100$

torn glade
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why not just build the new rig now for $40

potent prairie
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You don't need to start from scratch tho

stoic island
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Doesn't matter because you wouldn't

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I don't see any case where b550 offers better value for the future

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40$ today gets you a better GPU

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Future? Doesn't save you money

potent prairie
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Like you can reuse almost everything and slowly upgrade as needed. Eventually a B450 will be outdated, yes, but it is a fine board and will be for a while

stoic island
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Afterall Am5 is coming

potent prairie
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Am5 might be new socket for all we know

stoic island
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Not like you'll be getting a 6th gen Ryzen CPU in that

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Tis just the case for budget builds

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That 40$ is quite significant when it's 5% of the budget

wary geode
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@torn glade 100 TVs drilled a hole in the drawer and screwed 20 times before I’m dont

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Done

stoic island
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Wut

torn glade
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that's no fun

wary geode
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Yeah it takes 20 min to do one

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And it’s a 10 hour work day

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I’m on break lol they fired some 30 people and like the other 20 quit it’s just me and a kid named Kevin

torn glade
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lmfao

wary geode
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So we chilling

torn glade
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why would they quit tho like crazy

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easy job sure drive you a little nuts but like yeah

wary geode
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I came 3 days ago and my legs are sore and I have 5 blisters and my hands have another 3 blisters

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No elevator made yet so it’s harder

torn glade
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poop

wary geode
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Yeah but it’s fine

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We are almost done 2 more weeks and I’ll be paid 2k in total to get a streaming setup going for building PCs because I wanna be popular on twitch for building

buoyant flame
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Did you finish that pc build you streamed? @wary geode

wary geode
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Imma get nanoleafs another webcam and mic and painting the room white and black

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Yep

buoyant flame
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Nice

wary geode
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Went smoothly

torn glade
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you could teach people on twitch on how to put a tv together and screw it to the stand and stuff lolol

wary geode
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Just busy so I can’t take photos

buoyant flame
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Did you post it in build pics?

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Ah ok

wary geode
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Yeah I work 12 hours and wake up at 6

buoyant flame
torn glade
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people need their tvs lol

wary geode
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Imma post today

buoyant flame
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Oof

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Ok, ping me when you do

wary geode
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😂 Im never screwing in a tv again

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Yeahhhh

torn glade
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lolol

wary geode
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Ram is coming today kinda hyped then I get to phot

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What’s up with y’all

honest ridge
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So i was going to buy the B450 TOMAHAWK Max for $125 but its sold out unless i buy a $180 version. Does anyone know of another good MB like this one thats still in the low 100s

wary geode
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Gigabyte aouros elite

stoic island
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B550

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Any b550 board

wary geode
#

^

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I like the aouros lineup

honest ridge
#

you got one youd recommend specifically ?

wary geode
#

Looks like

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Sure

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Gigabyte has cheapest at 90 I think

honest ridge
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(im not good at this stuff yet)

wary geode
#

But that’s barebones

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Ill look mr help me

honest ridge
#

i can spare some money to make it worth it

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this is my list but the MB is sold out so

honest ridge
#

@wary geode does "micro atx" do anything?

stoic island
#

no

wary geode
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That’s was speedy

honest ridge
#

whats it mean

wary geode
#

What size it is

torn glade
#

it's just a different form factor mobo size

wary geode
#

Motherboards go mini itx Mirco atx atx and eatx

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Mirco atx is not much different from atx

honest ridge
#

but no reliability or performance issues?

torn glade
#

no

wary geode
#

Nah

honest ridge
#

ok the one i have right now is standard

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im upgrading btw

wary geode
#

There is no difference

torn glade
#

it just means you might get a few sata ports less or a few pci-e slots less that's about it all the same chips and such

wary geode
#

Just smaller

torn glade
#

and if you go mini-itx you lose a few ram slots on top of that

wary geode
#

Yeah

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And more expensive

torn glade
#

but it's all the same performance and chips reliability so on

honest ridge
#

ok

wary geode
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Yeasaaa

torn glade
#

yeah some mini-itx boards can cost just as much as a high end mobo

honest ridge
#

the 3 you sent whats the difference?

torn glade
#

I got the asus rog strix x570 e gaming, friend got the same board just the mini itx version cost the same I loled at him lolol

outer heart
#

this good for final?

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sub 500

honest ridge
#

@wary geode do you have any standard board suggestions?

wary geode
#

Yea

honest ridge
#

like i said im just new to this and dont want to screw it up. i already have a standard board in there so i know it will fit fine

wary geode
#

@outer heart maybe a 500gb ssd it’s like 15$ more and you can get the Evga br 450 w for 45.99$ if you wanna save

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Ok lemme find some

outer heart
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ok cool

torn glade
#

idk about you guys but my system on idle or even watching videos and using it nothing heavy, about 84 to 94 watts of power at like 60Hz display if I turn on 240Hz it brings it up to like 110 watts, and when playing games maxed out settings either on the 4k tv at 60Hz or the gaming monitor I have at 240Hz it goes up to about 150watts if that, but that's my combination of parts and settings so on

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so even if I would of wanted to go with a 450watt psu I would of been good

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but I still got the 850 just cuz I wanted it lols

wary geode
#

Huh I don’t measure watts but cool

torn glade
#

I don't either just my psu has it built in

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so it's in my face

potent prairie
#

this good for final?
@outer heart Ryzen 2600 is much better and that ram is slow and kinda high latency, but besides that it is decent

torn glade
#

yeah that CL is a little high

potent prairie
#

If you have a very tight budget and can't afford the 2600, maybe try getting some parts used

potent prairie
#

Yes. or the 1600AF if you can find it for less

outer heart
#

ok sounds good

wary geode
#

I gotta get back to work cya

honest ridge
#

thanks @wary geode

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@potent prairie can you look at this for me

potent prairie
honest ridge
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the one on the right was the one i was gonna get but it was sold out

potent prairie
#

I like Asus's ROG boards

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There are cheaper options but that is solid

honest ridge
#

ok it says "Memory Speed
DDR4-2133
DDR4-2400
DDR4-2666
DDR4-2800
DDR4-3000
DDR4-3200"

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does that mean if my RAM is DDR4 and 3600 it wont work?

potent prairie
#

Depends on CPU, to my knowledge it will work with faster ram as long as you have a modern-ish cpu

stoic island
#

no

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ignore it

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3rd gen cpu works with 3600mhz

honest ridge
#

ok

stoic island
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2nd gen only guaranteed to 3200

honest ridge
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night did you see my list?

potent prairie
#

No, just the mobo compare

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Link?

honest ridge
potent prairie
honest ridge
#

.................

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sorry

potent prairie
#

np

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Budget?

honest ridge
#

ive got about 400

potent prairie
#

for a new build?

honest ridge
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no CPU and MB upgrade

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and the RAM i have is DDR3 so that too

potent prairie
#

Ah, nice. I'd maybe see about slightly faster ram, but the rest looks good

honest ridge
#

like DDR4-3600?

honest ridge
#

thats what i had on there orignially

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What about the compatibility issues?

stoic island
#

ignore

potent prairie
#

That

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And the ram is 3600mhz vs 3200

honest ridge
#

???

deep skiff
#

g skill makes several kits of ripjaws v at different speeds

honest ridge
#

Oh no i know that im just wondering about the Red banner that says compatibility issues

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Mr1111 said to ignore it

potent prairie
#

Yeah, ignore it

honest ridge
#

ok

torn glade
#

the warning is it says bios update needed

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that's all

honest ridge
#

.....whats that

torn glade
#

software or firmware that goes on this chip we call still bios to make things compatible with motherboards as new hardware comes out after you bought your motherboard

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in the simple terms

honest ridge
#

ok cool

torn glade
#

so if you buy that motherboard it may already have the updated bios or not

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and if it does the cpu you put in it will work and if it does not well the system will not post

honest ridge
#

on PCPartPicker i have to go to each individual one to order it right?

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oh how do i fix it if its not already upgraded @torn glade

torn glade
#

depends if the motherboard has a option for flash back using usb

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I'll have to look at the motherboard to see if it supports that

stoic island
#

MSI mostly do

honest ridge
#

Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard

torn glade
#

most of the time if it does not it means you need to put a old cpu in it to update the bios and take the old cpu out and put the new one in

honest ridge
#

thats scary

hollow bridge
#

Who’s good with PCs? I have a list but it’s a bit spammy. Can I dm someone with it. I don’t know if the parts are compatible.

torn glade
#

it's a little dumb so some motherboards come with the option of updating the bios using usb stick even if it does not post to fix this issue let me look at the mobo see if it has it or not

cursive wharf
#

It's almost impossible to get that now though

honest ridge
#

what hei?

cursive wharf
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Because the only way for that to happen is to get a mobo that doesn't have the new BIOS. They are updated at the factory and have been for like 10 months. Considering that stock has always been on edge then you'd have a hard time finding old stock, a very hard time.

torn glade
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it's odd asus says that mobo is 3000 series compatible

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so I think the parts picker site is just a little outdated

honest ridge
#

so i would be fine getting that?

torn glade
#

one second

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Ryzen 5 3600 (3.6GHz,65W,L3:32M,6C,B0) ALL 2301

honest ridge
#

o_o

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huh

torn glade
#

that mobo has been around for along time who knows what they have in stock

cursive wharf
#

Unless you are the unfortunate soul of like the 0.05% that gets an old board then you are fine. You probably have more chance getting a lemon board/DOA (dead on arrival) then an old one

torn glade
#

it's a hit and miss thing you buy it it might be the new bios version

stoic island
#

Thing is

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things get sold and restocked

torn glade
#

yup

honest ridge
#

do yall have a better suggestion?

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for this

stoic island
#

so the only stuff in stock today is 99.99% new boards

torn glade
#

worse case he goes to a pc shop and they flash it for him since they have cpu's there

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and he puts his new cpu in it if it happens to have bad luck with bios versions

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or a friend if he's lucky lolol

cursive wharf
#

Actual wait no nvm

#

B550 AsRock Gaming Phantom 4 is $115

torn glade
#

yeah something that does not flag red about bios updates lolol

cursive wharf
#

Just get that, basically as good as ROG

torn glade
#

yes if the b550 ends up being new and cheaper than that older b450

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get the new one

cursive wharf
#

Well, chipset isn't everything

honest ridge
#

ok one sec

cursive wharf
#

I've done a full rundown of the phantom gaming 4 specs so I know it's not too bad

torn glade
#

normal user / gamer most of the features 80% not used

honest ridge
#

sooooo?

cursive wharf
#

Well, things like having a better sound chip then the bottom of the barrel can probs be noticed. Phantom 4 is about the cheapest mobo with a decent sound chip rn

torn glade
#

lol true

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looks not to bad cyno

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at least now you have full support of that cpu with that chipset

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and newer board

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so no red

honest ridge
#

yay

torn glade
#

and that board cost a little less than that dino board

honest ridge
#

@cursive wharf you know this board is good and reliable?

torn glade
hollow bridge
torn glade
#

same problem bios update in that build

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that's the same cpu mobo combination he first had

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so hit and miss if you have old or new bios on that mobo

#

it might or might not post with that cpu

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so you have to f around to get it updated to make it work

stoic island
#

hit and miss of 99% accuracy doesn't concern me

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so yaknow

honest ridge
#

we may have already been through this but whats wrong with this one GIGABYTE B550 GAMING X AM4 AMD B550 ATX Motherboard

stoic island
#

depends on price

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if its like 130$ good

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if its like 180$ no

hollow bridge
#

hmm

torn glade
#

idk you look at the spec of them two boards and the giga has less stuff but cost more

#

so I would have to decide on which one is more reliable and build quality for the price difference ?

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but I in the end they would be the same on that level ?

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soooo get the cheaper one ?

honest ridge
#

so the cheaper one would be the way to go

#

oka

torn glade
#

mr is the expert here

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ask him lmfao

honest ridge
#

@stoic island

hollow bridge
#

So what’s a compatible CPU and Motherboard

torn glade
#

what are you looking for ?

hollow bridge
#

I’m looking on micro center

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AMD Ryzen 5 3600

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with a motherboard

torn glade
#

do you care about pci-e 3.0 or 4.0 ?

hollow bridge
#

what’s pci

torn glade
#

the things you put a video card in

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them slots

hollow bridge
#

What are they for

torn glade
#

and other cards

hollow bridge
#

Like capture card and things?

torn glade
#

you can put video cards in them

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raid cards to add more drives storage

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network cards

hollow bridge
#

This is mainly for gaming

#

oh

torn glade
#

most mother boards have all that for what most people will use

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AMD Ryzen 5 3600 work with most cpu socket AM4

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and full features are so far for B550 and X570

stoic island
#

Phantom gaming 4 has better audio codec

torn glade
#

but still works with B450 just not full feature set

stoic island
#

but gaming x has bios flashback

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and gaming x has a better vrm setup

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your choice in the end @honest ridge

torn glade
#

quality vs features

hollow bridge
#

ok

#

So they work with B550

#

?

torn glade
#

yes

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they are made for them and the x570

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bunch of B550 and x570 boards

#

in the end it's up to your $$$ and features you're looking for and will use

cursive wharf
#

Gaming X seems to lack debug LEDs, less total USB ports (esp less 3.0 USB ports), worse audio chip, no M2 E (small WiFi chip slot), and one less fan header

torn glade
#

yeah I thought it was a little odd it cost more for less

hollow bridge
torn glade
#

so figured maybe better parts on the electronics level like capacitors and VRMs and such or just a rip off idk lolol

cursive wharf
#

@hollow bridge yes, but overpriced

hollow bridge
#

hmm

torn glade
#

Save $20 when bundled with a compatible eligible processor

#

so take $20 off if you buy the cpu there too ?

#

so would 169.99 still be to much ?

hollow bridge
#

I think so

#

This is what I was thinking of getting

cursive wharf
#

Pretty sure like half the mobos have that

torn glade
#

but they don't say the price on the site ?

#

for the combo ?

hollow bridge
torn glade
#

oh ok

#

well if I combo them on pcparts it's $344.98

#

for them two same

hollow bridge
#

What does cpu do

torn glade
#

the cpu is the brain

#

that plugs into that square on the mobo

hollow bridge
#

I’m wondering if I should get a cheaper cpu

torn glade
#

no cpu = paper weight

#

well do they have more bundles on that site ? for a less cpu with still $20 off ?

cursive wharf
#

Unless you need thunderbolt the b550 Strix is eh

torn glade
#

lol

hollow bridge
#

Yes

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Any bundle

torn glade
#

I don't think he needs t-bolt

hollow bridge
#

just with cpu and motherboard

#

if they are compatible

torn glade
#

yup

hollow bridge
#

They listed the B450 as compatible

torn glade
#

yup

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it would be but might cost the same for the mobo and the potential of the 3600 would be downgraded

hollow bridge
#

Oh

torn glade
#

depends what they have on the site he's shopping at

hollow bridge
#

True

#

Any of these worth their price

torn glade
#

so $$$ what you looking for lolols

hollow bridge
#

True

#

Idk

#

Something that can run

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games

torn glade
#

lolols

#

well all that stuff in that list can run games

cursive wharf
#

3600+b450 Strix I guess seem not to bad for the money

torn glade
#

but poop they keep wanting to push intergraded graphics

#

when he's gonna get a dedicated gpu anyways

hollow bridge
#

Integrated is so bad

torn glade
#

but the dumb thing is often with what the prices look they are cheaper

#

like why can't the non gpu ones be just as cheap

#

lets look at this one

hollow bridge
#

Yea

#

I was looking at that one

#

but on pcpartpicker

#

It said something about BIOS

torn glade
#

welp like mr said ignore it cuz that store sells them as a bundle

#

or the store people are dumb idk lolol and not aware of things

hollow bridge
#

lol

#

They could be dumb

torn glade
#

yes happens often

hollow bridge
#

You can’t return it once u opened it right?

torn glade
#

he has to go to the store to pick that stuff up

#

so they have a store in his area

#

so they prob do it and check it for him and sell it to him

#

idk

hollow bridge
#

They not finna build my pc for me

torn glade
#

lolol

hollow bridge
#

Imma contact customer support

#

And ask b4 hand

torn glade
#

yes

little osprey
#

Snap @potent prairie what was the case I had told me to get?

torn glade
#

just do the card board case challenge

hollow bridge
potent prairie
#

I think I put in the meshify C, but like that's a placeholder. Hard to tell you which case is best as it largely depends on asthetics and opinon

#

Unless you really care about thermals

torn glade
#

get a pink case with pink rgb fans lols

full atlas
#

The mesh c is great but only with extra fans

potent prairie
#

pink rgb fans
Not sure if you know how RGB works lol

full atlas
#

If you want something that’s fully ready in stock configuration then get the p400a digital

little osprey
#

Because I really don't care about rgb

#

I just want a nice pc that will run nice

potent prairie
#

Unless you mean a pink chassis

torn glade
#

I know how rgb works I just wanted to specify the color lolol

potent prairie
#

lol

hollow bridge
torn glade
#

lol poop

hollow bridge
#

It’s quarantine and they can’t be there for me?

torn glade
#

you think they could do that from home lols

keen moss
#

they’re too busy taking a bath

hollow bridge
#

honestly

torn glade
#

lmfao

hollow bridge
#

Amazon scammed me out of 100$

#

They never got back to me

torn glade
#

what they do ?

keen moss
#

they tend to do that

hollow bridge
#

They locked my account

torn glade
#

oh

hollow bridge
#

Since I tried to buy a PS4 giftcard

#

With my amazon balance

torn glade
#

oh

#

odd

hollow bridge
#

Contacted them 4 times

#

They always say

torn glade
#

weird stuff

hollow bridge
#

Someone will reach out to me

#

And they never do

torn glade
#

why would they care if you use your amazon balance to buy a ps4 gift card ?

keen moss
#

they wanted it for themselves

torn glade
#

probably lol

hollow bridge
#

So dumb

torn glade
#

it seems something people would do all the time cuz giftcards often come on sale

keen moss
#

no, it’s my $100 gift card

torn glade
#

oh ok

#

lololol

hollow bridge
torn glade
#

odd stuff

#

or there's a queue and no one is there

#

so lololol

hollow bridge
#

lol

#

Could be

torn glade
#

you'll find out lolol

dusky depot
#

😂

outer heart
#

ryzen 5 2600 or 3600

full atlas
#

3600

torn glade
#

yup

outer heart
#

work the 20 etra

#

extra

torn glade
#

depends what board you gonna put it in too

full atlas
#

It’s only 15$ more and is much much better

outer heart
#

ok thank you

torn glade
#

if you put the 3600 in a b450 board it comes to the same as getting a 2600

#

but if you put that same 3600 in a b550 or x570 well that's different

full atlas
#

Not really

outer heart
torn glade
#

cuz of the features

#

yes really

outer heart
#

its a b450m rn

#

so 550 would work?

torn glade
#

the 3600 will work in both

full atlas
#

B550 would be better, but it’s 20$ more

torn glade
#

just in the 450 the pci-e would run in 3 mode and not 4

outer heart
#

whats that mean

torn glade
#

do you care about this ?

#

ryan ?

hollow bridge
#

Is 32 inch monitor food

#

Good

full atlas
#

Which doesn’t matter much at all unless you have a high end gpu and/or storage

torn glade
#

just means less pci-e lanes and speeds, not to worry about if you run one gpu and so on

outer heart
#

so all good

full atlas
#

The only reason to go b550 is better vrms

stark bramble
#

I mean do u really need 4 graphics cards tho keka

torn glade
#

yes lolol

#

but only if they use the new nvlink lolol

stark bramble
#

Oof

torn glade
#

and not the old sli stuff

full atlas
#

Yeah that ones good for the price

torn glade
#

yes

keen moss
#

i ordered that and got something else

#

stinky brown color

full atlas
#

It’s basically better then a tmax

torn glade
#

oh

outer heart
#

dang that went too 600 rq

torn glade
#

lol

#

you add the gpu and boom lolol

cursive wharf
#

getting better then tmax doesn't take much as tmax has only one PCIe M2, bad sound chip, no wifi, poor LAN chip, and less USB ports compared to b450 boards at the same price bracket. So it's always been a bad buy

full atlas
#

It’s not a bad buy

hollow bridge
#

It’s been 10 minutes Jesus Christ

torn glade
#

lol

hollow bridge
#

customer support is ass

full atlas
#

Until now when there’s b550

torn glade
#

how far is one of these stores to you @hollow bridge

cursive wharf
#

I just explained that tmax is a low quality board.
Also Jaicke I'm not obligated to do work here btw

torn glade
#

lololol

hollow bridge
#

It’s like 30m

torn glade
#

ok

hollow bridge
#

10miles

outer heart
#

250 or 500 gb

full atlas
#

@cursive wharf name a better b450 near that price...

torn glade
#

how much porn do you need ryan lololol

hollow bridge
#

Lots

torn glade
#

well 500 it is hahahaha

#

depends how many games are you going to play many games today take like 60GB

outer heart
#

just a few

torn glade
#

even 1TB don't go far with a few games that are even up to like 120GB and no options to not install the 4k textures

outer heart
#

i can always return and add right

stark bramble
#

1 tb is more than enough for plenty of games and files

#

ngl

cursive wharf
#

B450 Aorus Pro, b450 ROG Strix, b450 TUF Pro Gaming (not to be confused with Plus gaming)
As for one that's literally cheaper (tho OOS now due to b450 dying off) then the mATX varient of the TUF Pro Gaming

outer heart
#

15 bucks for double storage

#

why not

torn glade
#

yes

outer heart
#

better more than less

torn glade
#

so if you can afford the 15

full atlas
#

@cursive wharf which rog, b450-e, or b450-f???

torn glade
#

we all know what the F means don't we

cursive wharf
#

F

hollow bridge
#

I don’t

full atlas
#

F()cked vrms...

torn glade
#

lolol

hollow bridge
#

Woah

cursive wharf
#

Right, because who runs 0 airflow over VRMs?

#

Not many

torn glade
#

lol

full atlas
#

I have the b450f

cursive wharf
#

Also by the by, careful about swearing and censoring. Mods don't like that

#

Even if censored

full atlas
#

Ok will be careful

torn glade
#

can I say poop

autumn wolf
#

bad word

cursive wharf
#

Not the other word that starts with S

torn glade
#

ok

honest ridge
#

final

#

(sorry for coming in mid convo)

full atlas
#

By airflow do you mean just a case with airflow, or a fan facing towards the vrms?

torn glade
#

it's a fine build start cyno

cursive wharf
#

Generally a fan at the back or top of the case

full atlas
#

I have an exsaust at the back will that work?

honest ridge
#

@torn glade its an upgrade

torn glade
#

when it comes to motherboards just to many options and it all depends on how well they work and quality parts on them

#

oh ok

cursive wharf
#

Case airflow will probs not do super ideal if just front mounted fans

honest ridge
#

thats still good tho?

full atlas
#

I have 2 front intake and one rear exsaust

torn glade
#

yeah that cpu works great that's the one I have

cursive wharf
#

And it should, upto 3700x I'd say so long as case isn't too tight

#

Where the fan gets pushed pass the VRMs

torn glade
#

the ram is what it is the specs look fine most ram is all the same they just change the outside look

#

for styles

full atlas
#

Should I put an intake on top?

cursive wharf
#

Shouldn't need to tbh

honest ridge
#

ok cool thanks

#

and i know this is a weird question being in this server but newegg is reliable right?

torn glade
#

the mobo to many choices like I said but I bet they sell that mobo like crazy since it's on the top of the list lolol for lower prices lmfao

full atlas
#

@honest ridge yes it is

torn glade
#

I've used newegg for years buying parts

#

I shop around often for better prices at times so on

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only had one issue with new egg was ups lost my stuff

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but newegg replaced it

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other than that so far so good

honest ridge
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cool cool

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had to ask

full atlas
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I got my case from Newegg

torn glade
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I got like 100% of my build during black november 2019 from newegg

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was good sales, no shipping at all for that month

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could not find the parts I wanted at the prices so I just used newegg for the main system

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and at times I bought accessories for the new build from like amazon, bestbuy, even walmart.

full atlas
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Cool

outer heart
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this is my current laptop vs future pc

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bit of an improvement

full atlas
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Don’t get that ram

outer heart
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i have a different one on the list bt it wouldnt show up on the site

full atlas
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Oh ok

outer heart
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going with this

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G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

full atlas
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Also you can get 2tb storage for 55$

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That’s a decent kit

outer heart
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im at the high end of budget already

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621

full atlas
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Alr

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Why can’t you paste pcpp lists here

outer heart
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you arent level 3 yet

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but you can when you get there

full atlas
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Oh that also applies for links

outer heart
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yeah

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pictures too

torn glade
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cool

full atlas
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It let me put a picture in the build pics at least

vivid coral
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My mom wanted Chromebook to do daily things such as check your email save pictures on it and just basic web browsing stuff

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I was wondering if you would help me make sure this is a good deal

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It comes with a option of 3 processers witch one is the best

analog hearth
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I thought you could post links here now

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mods wth >:0

vivid coral
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You could for a while now

analog hearth
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as a rookie

vivid coral
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Iv been here for atlist 7months

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?whois@vivid coral

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No Dyno

torn glade
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when it comes to chrome books idk how well they performance cuz they just run a bare minimum linux to run chrome mostly ??? and most things are saved to the cloud ???

vivid coral
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Yeg

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vivid coral
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I don't know crap about them

analog hearth
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@torn glade yeah, basically

vivid coral
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But idk what processor is good

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The a4

analog hearth
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it's all on the cloud. can't download anything unless it's from ChromeOS's app store (whatever it's called)

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everything is eMMC storage

torn glade
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I see there are 3 cpu options so in the point of view for chrome books idk cuz in my world celeron is crap, why do they still even make pentiums, and that amd cpu no clue I only entered amd world this past year, always had intel before but intel has been a little mental for sometime and decided to give it a try for amd ryzen

vivid coral
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Intel claeron

analog hearth
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a grandmother's goto for getting her tech grandson a gift

torn glade
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loolol yup

vivid coral
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Lol

stark bramble
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go for ryzen if u just wanna do basic work

vivid coral
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Yes

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Yeh

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Ryzen it is

analog hearth
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some refurbished ones are apparently under $100

vivid coral
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"I don't want a referbished one"

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Notice the ""

torn glade
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was AMD A4 any good I don't have a clue, I always just kept up with intel most of my life until I this past year

vivid coral
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Lol

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It's a dule core

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Sooooo

analog hearth
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I just don't see why you'd spend $800 for a 128GB SSD you'll only be able to use for mobile kid games

analog hearth
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and what is that i5

vivid coral
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I have a wind XP with a dule core

analog hearth
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dual* btw

torn glade
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lol

vivid coral
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Lol

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Yeh that windows is mutch better

analog hearth
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lol

vivid coral
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Ok I'm going with the windows

torn glade
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what @stark bramble posted seems fair for the price and parts for a laptop

vivid coral
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And I'll stel a ram stick form and old laptop so there's 8gigs

torn glade
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chromebooks seem overpriced

stark bramble
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they lowkey are

vivid coral
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Yes

analog hearth
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I would only pay $50 for a chromebook