building-and-recc-chat

[mortal rampart]

What

[spiral zealot]

my buddy went to SJSU and his dorm room was like 4 people in the equivalent of my bedroom at home

with beds/desks/closets/fridge/etc

[stoic island]

It's not exactly easy to lug a pc around

[swift rain]

her mac laptop got stolen in college

[stoic island]

Lock doors whenever possible

[swift rain]

well a laptop fits into a bag

a pc fits in a suitcas

[mortal rampart]

So why you asking us for pc😔

[swift rain]

for rn lmao

for the next 3 yrs of hs

[stoic island]

It's more likely you'll forget your laptop and leave it out to be stolen, than someone sneaking into your room to lug your PC out

[swift rain]

facts but my stser college makes you rent a micro wave and pay thousands of dollars to bring outside stuff in

[stoic island]

What kinda college is that

[deep skiff]

wtf how do you rent a microwave

[swift rain]

you pay 40/month for a microawave and 50/ for mini fridge

[stoic island]

Lol

[mortal rampart]

Oh ok

[swift rain]

my sister finished her first year at upenn

a decent college i think

[stoic island]

UPenn is good

[swift rain]

nice

[stoic island]

But why do you need to rent microwave lol

[swift rain]

cuz you need to eat food

frozen food

idk man but its exp af

[stoic island]

At my school

[swift rain]

and first years are forced to buy school lunch

[stoic island]

Every lounge has a microwave

Anyone can use

Anyways

[swift rain]

15k for a year of crap food -.-

[stoic island]

15k? Fr?

[swift rain]

maybe thats including other stuff

but not including rent and that stuff

damn college exp af

thank god she got a small scholarship jesus

[stoic island]

Iirc my school is just like 5k a year for food

Prob less

[swift rain]

is it good food?

[stoic island]

It's definally not 15k

[swift rain]

and ur in college?

i asked

i capped its 12k but still thats alot

[stoic island]

The quality... Varies

[swift rain]

hahhaha

[stoic island]

Breakfast is decent

[swift rain]

i make my lunch for hs cuz i meal prep

[stoic island]

They always have cereal as last resort

[swift rain]

oo ceral is good

vry sugary tho

[stoic island]

Lunch surprisingly always has a decent option

[swift rain]

thats nice to hear

[stoic island]

Dinner is when it can be iffy

[swift rain]

care to share thje name of school?

[stoic island]

Nah

[swift rain]

okey

[stoic island]

Too personal

[swift rain]

respect

[cursive wharf]

I payed like 5k CAD for a year for a bad-ish food plan

[swift rain]

fair fair

[stoic island]

Dunno, school seafood is just

Not great

[swift rain]

thats like 3k usd right

somewhat close

[mortal rampart]

I'm done

[wraith trail]

ive got 1900 for a pc my friend said i should get https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3YYsTC that pc but i want to know if am would get the best for my money

[swift rain]

thank youu

[stoic island]

Rubbery white fish fillet things...
Hate em

[mortal rampart]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nFhCTC

[stoic island]

@wraith trail no

[swift rain]

we appreciate the big help guys and gals 🙂

[stoic island]

I took a glance and that is def not good price to performance

[mortal rampart]

Ya no

Not even a 2080s

A 2070s

And also @swift rain

[swift rain]

ye

[wraith trail]

what would u recommend

[mortal rampart]

That case can fit like 8 fans

Replace that gpu

@wraith trail

[swift rain]

ah but can my wallet afford that

[stoic island]

My 1500$ list had a 2080s for crying out loud

[little osprey]

How much does a ryzen 7 3700x and rtx 2070 super build cost

[stoic island]

9700k is last gen

[swift rain]

2080 is like 300-400 more than 2069

[cursive wharf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tzpg7T

[mortal rampart]

Wasn't talking to you water Lmao

[stoic island]

I'd say 1200$ mee7

[swift rain]

is it rly that big of a differece

[mortal rampart]

That link is for you and no one else

Lmao

[swift rain]

haha

[mortal rampart]

I was talking to pebble about the gpu

[swift rain]

ah okay

[stoic island]

2080 super is 700$, 2060 is 300$

[swift rain]

whats the difference tho

[stoic island]

Ye we be talking bout pebble rn

[wraith trail]

should i just ditch that list then

[little osprey]

How well would that 550w power supply work?

[stoic island]

A lot of performance xD

[swift rain]

like how much could one notice

[mortal rampart]

Not much visually

[stoic island]

Yea hei 550w seems a bit low for a 1900$ build

[mortal rampart]

Unless you're running a super intense game

[stoic island]

Future proof yaknow

[swift rain]

2060 it is 😄

[mortal rampart]

The 2060s

[swift rain]

i doubt valorant is super intesne

[mortal rampart]

You can fit it

[swift rain]

i can run it on my peice of crap rn

[deep skiff]

best build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[mortal rampart]

With that budget I got for you

[swift rain]

plus my wifi rn is ass and ill get better wifi

[stoic island]

550w can run that just fine btw @little osprey

Lol nachos

[swift rain]

nuclear its blank*

im assuming that was the joke

and i missed it

[deep skiff]

yes dont buy a pc rn wait for next gen

[swift rain]

i wont

but i cant afford next gen\

will old gen get cheaper?

[deep skiff]

we dont even know the prices rn for next gen

[stoic island]

1000$ build you can have 3600+2060s, 1500$ 3600+2080s, 2000$ 10600k+2080s

That's my baseline for budgets

[swift rain]

its like iphones mostlikey more exp than the last one

[mortal rampart]

@wraith trail whoever told you to build that should never be able to build a pc again

[deep skiff]

@stoic island eh id say 3600+2080 ti would be better for 2k

[stoic island]

Not really

[wraith trail]

ok

[mortal rampart]

That list was soooo bad imo

[wraith trail]

i told him

[cursive wharf]

if ya need to buy now I guess
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bQ2X8M

need used 2080Ti tho

[stoic island]

@deep skiff I like Intel at that point, usually can fit 10600k+2080ti anyways

[little osprey]

@stoic island how well that cooler run tho?

[swift rain]

damn my guy has 2k to spend i wish

nzxt cases are sexy tho are the mechanically good?

[mortal rampart]

Nahhh @cursive wharf

[stoic island]

Cooler on what

@swift rain not good for airflow

[swift rain]

o

[mortal rampart]

^^^

[stoic island]

And that's 80% of what the case should do

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tzpg7T

[swift rain]

rip they look so nice

[mortal rampart]

Go with what I told you lmao

[swift rain]

white is so crisp

[stoic island]

Look man

Td500 mesh white

[mortal rampart]

Your gpu temps will be ice-cold

[deep skiff]

no cases are for personal preferences

[stoic island]

Good airflow

[mortal rampart]

That too

[stoic island]

Good looks

[mortal rampart]

I have that

[stoic island]

Good rgb

[mortal rampart]

Sexy rgb

[stoic island]

Good price

[swift rain]

fair

[mortal rampart]

You literally can't go wrong

[swift rain]

my seyup is white tho

i have the razer mucurey crap

[mortal rampart]

Then get that

[swift rain]

mercury*

[stoic island]

Yea just look at td500 mesh white

[swift rain]

in everyones opinion

whats the best price to preformans gaming mouse and gaming keyboard

[stoic island]

Mouse, Logitech g502

[mortal rampart]

Uhh

[deep skiff]

some $20 combo of aliexpress

[mortal rampart]

Ya

[swift rain]

excuse my spelling its balls cold in my room my range of motion is restricted to 2 fingers

[stoic island]

50$ good mouse

Go on bed

[swift rain]

g502 isnt 50?

[stoic island]

Be like me

[swift rain]

im on pc

i have a wireless is that bad

[mortal rampart]

Well what's ur preference

Light

Heavy?

[stoic island]

It might be 40$ now

[swift rain]

light i think

[stoic island]

But it's not that expensive

[mortal rampart]

Glorious O then

[swift rain]

gpro is that good

[deep skiff]

model o is nice

[wraith trail]

any one got a premade list that i could use

[swift rain]

yea 40 is light

[mortal rampart]

^^

[stoic island]

G pro is not a price to performance mouse lol

[mortal rampart]

@wraith trail lemme make one rq

[stoic island]

I really like my g pro

[mortal rampart]

You said 2k right?

[swift rain]

ah yes

[wraith trail]

1900

[swift rain]

logitech supposed to give me a new one

[deep skiff]

if it has pro in the name its not good price to perf :v

[mortal rampart]

Ok

[swift rain]

but i didnt get my ship track email yet

[stoic island]

Except my RMB was double clicking one day, and then it wasn't

[mortal rampart]

And the model O is like $50 now

So ha

[stoic island]

Oh really?

[mortal rampart]

Ya

[stoic island]

Good mouse

[mortal rampart]

It went down

[swift rain]

isnt that like the final mouse

[mortal rampart]

I had been looking at it for a while

But I went with a vertical mouse instead

[swift rain]

vertical? those seem comfortable but hard to get used ti

does it not feel like a joystick

[mortal rampart]

Nah not really

I can link the one I have

[swift rain]

go for it

[mortal rampart]

I'm gonna put it in the peripherals channel

[swift rain]

okay

okay guys 2:18

im calling that a good night lmao

[mortal rampart]

Gn

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VwQp6R

@wraith trail

[wraith trail]

yea

[mortal rampart]

Idk if you need a case and everything but if you do I can change it around a bit to fit it in

[wraith trail]

ok

[little osprey]

I need a rtx 2070S ryzen 3700x 32gb ram and what ever else is needed build can someone help me?

[mortal rampart]

What's the budget?

@little osprey

[little osprey]

Idk

Anywhere from 1500-2000 if that's possible

If not lmk

[wraith trail]

𝙺𝚒𝚜𝚞𝚜𝚔𝚎

[mortal rampart]

Ya

Ok I gotchu meeeee

[little osprey]

Aye

[wraith trail]

what would i do if i wanted more ram

[mortal rampart]

On the website??

Just add more

Or can you not edit the list?

[wraith trail]

i can

[mortal rampart]

Just add more then

[little osprey]

Just @ me when u get it @mortal rampart

[mortal rampart]

Wait

You want rgb or no?

Or just some here and there?

[little osprey]

Don't matter to me

[wraith trail]

what about for the os

[little osprey]

Here and there preferably

[mortal rampart]

Okay np

And pebble you don't need an os

There's a free version of windows

Then you can just buy a key off of eBay or something

That's what I did

I got it a windows pro key for $4

[wraith trail]

oh

[mortal rampart]

That's why I said that list was trash Lmao

I got a better key than was on there for $4

I'll link a video on how to do it after km done with this build

[wraith trail]

ok thanks

you got case ideas

[mortal rampart]

Tell me what you want

A window?

Great airflow?

Rgb?

[little osprey]

Br

[mortal rampart]

You need a monitor too or no?

@little osprey

[little osprey]

Ye

[mortal rampart]

Okay bet

[little osprey]

Preferably 32" if there are any

[mortal rampart]

Why that?

You game on that rn?

[little osprey]

Yea it's my monitor and tv

[mortal rampart]

Ohhh ok

[little osprey]

Yea lol

[mortal rampart]

Too big for my taste

But I gotchu

[little osprey]

Lol sorry

[wraith trail]

kisuske

[mortal rampart]

Ya

[wraith trail]

i think i found a case

[mortal rampart]

Lemme see

[wraith trail]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/b7hmP6/nzxt-h510-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-h510b-b1

[mortal rampart]

Bad airflow

And idk how hot that Intel chip runs

[wraith trail]

do u think i could swap the cpu for the i7-10700K

[mortal rampart]

Most definitely

It's your build after all Lmao

[little osprey]

Yoooo

[wraith trail]

well i dont know much about pcs

[mortal rampart]

You're good

[wraith trail]

any case that you recommend

[mortal rampart]

Ya hold up

@little osprey you have room for an actual TV?

Or nah

[little osprey]

Nope

[mortal rampart]

Rip

[little osprey]

If u can't find any good ones 27 will do fine

[mortal rampart]

Well I got the 32" like you wanted

[little osprey]

Fr? Atee

Ayeee#

[mortal rampart]

For all under 2k

[little osprey]

Daamn thanks bro

[mortal rampart]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HRdBCL

That psu for that build may not be enough

And I'm not the guy to talk to about psu specifically

[little osprey]

I could maybe do 750w

[mortal rampart]

Might wanna link it in the psu channel and ask them if it's enough

[little osprey]

Would that do fine?

[mortal rampart]

Ya probably

You have money to spare after all

And you'll also need more fans but they're not expensive

[little osprey]

Hmm

[mortal rampart]

At least one in the back

[little osprey]

So basically $2000 flat

Somewhere around there

[mortal rampart]

Somewhat ya

Not a bad price tho

[little osprey]

Fr

Thanks 🙏

Can you add peripherals to the cart?

[mortal rampart]

You able to edit it or no?

[little osprey]

Lemme see

No

[mortal rampart]

Oh rip

I already got rid of the list

[little osprey]

Np

[mortal rampart]

And pebble what kind of stuff you looking for in a case?

[wraith trail]

kisuske you got a case recommendation

[mortal rampart]

You want a window on the side

Rgb

[wraith trail]

yea

[mortal rampart]

?

Both of those?

[wraith trail]

dont really care for rgb

[mortal rampart]

Okay

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087D7DBW6/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_i_dHshFbHCEFC3R

My recommendation

Not too much going on in the front

And the window you want with some nice airflow to the components

And for your build as well you might want to get a bigger power supply

[wraith trail]

like 750watts

[mortal rampart]

Most likely

But like I told meee7

Ask in the psu chabble and see what they think

*channel

[wraith trail]

ok

[mortal rampart]

That all the questions you got?

I'm ab to hit snooze so if you need me

@ me and I'll respond whenever I can

[wraith trail]

thank you for your help

[mortal rampart]

Np

[little osprey]

Damn

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/monky505/saved/#

@mortal rampart

Is that good?

[tulip mirage]

Here are the specs for my first build
$800 budget

-Ryzen 5 3600x
-MSI B450 tomahawk max
-XFX Radeon RX 580
-16 GB Corsair Vengeance Pro
-ADATA SU635 240 GB SSD
-Seagate barracuda 2 TB
-Corsair SPEC-DELTA RGB ATX Mid Tower Case
-Thermaltake Smart 500 W 80+

[umbral scaffold]

hi

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/s7qTK4

this should be fine right

[fast dust]

@umbral scaffold you’re getting a very expensive motherboard for a mod-range CPU. Also the case is pretty pricey. You could squeze more performance out of this build if you got a cheaper motherboard and case

Oh and the 1660 ti has bad value.

If you’re gonna get a 1660, get a super

@tulip mirage
3600X has bad value. Not worth it for the price. Stick with 3600 or 3100 or 3300x
That SSD is DRAMless, meaning if you fill it up it will eventually get slower than a hard drive. Get something like an MP34 or MX500 instead
For the love of all that is holy on this earth please don’t get that power supply. Get an EVGA BR or SeaSonic S12III or Corsair CX or Cooler Master MWE I don’t care just don’t get a TT smart

[stark quail]

Hey so I just finished building my PC and I'm using a r7 2700x but the stock fan is really loud, is it supposed to be like that?

[mortal rampart]

Turn it to the lower setting on the actual heatsink itself

It's a L and W switch

@stark quail

@little osprey I can see the list

[stark quail]

How do I do that?

[mortal rampart]

@tulip mirage you could get something better for $800

It should be on the heatsink @stark quail

[stark quail]

Is there a way to show me a picture or sum?

[mortal rampart]

It's the weaith prism cooler isn't it?

*wraith

[stark quail]

Yes

[mortal rampart]

Ya idk which side it's on but there's a little switch next to the argb cables that you could plug into the heatsink

[stark quail]

Okay I found it now what do I do 😂

[mortal rampart]

Just see which side it's on

If it's already on low then you just have to lower the fan speed according to the temperature it's at in the bios

[stark quail]

Am I supposed to take off the cooler or keep it in the PC

[mortal rampart]

Uhh you should be able to keep it on

[stark quail]

I see an H and L

So which letter am I supposed to put it on?

[mortal rampart]

Well you want it to be quieter so L

@tulip mirage https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3VHwWb

There

[stark quail]

Okay and what do I have to do in the bios

[mortal rampart]

Idk however your bios is setup just go in there and it should be labeled cpu fan and change the fan speed depending on what the temps are

[stark quail]

Wdym by depending on the temps

[mortal rampart]

Your fan spin faster or slower depending on how high or low the temps are

[potent prairie]

@tulip mirage https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3VHwWb
@mortal rampart $6 more for an MP34, better than P1

[mortal rampart]

Oh also that psu isn't included but it should be $75

You'd probably have to go with a 1660S @tulip mirage

[potent prairie]

MP34 is TLC (vs QLC) and much faster

[mortal rampart]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sHLtZf

Use this @tulip mirage

If you need help later just @ me

[lament oyster]

hello can someone tell me why people get a small NVME drive and a larger HDD?

im very confused

i know NVME is so much faster

[deep skiff]

usually the smaller nvme drive is for important programs and booting off of windows, the hard drive is for mass storage or things you dont use a ton

[potent prairie]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pcrTK4
@tulip mirage
Good PSU for less. Better SSD. Better RAM. I'd get this if I were you

[deep skiff]

you get the fast speed when you need it and the large storage for a lot less than a 2tb nvme

[lament oyster]

hm

so i wouldnt put games on the hdd?

[potent prairie]

You can, it basically just affects load times

[analog hearth]

I'd just put the games on the largest drive

[deep skiff]

ya the ssd is for the more important things that get used the most

[analog hearth]

and then use the extra, smaller drive(s) if the largest drive is full

[deep skiff]

like booting up windows

a lot of people use a hard drive for their steam library cause how much space the games take up

[lament oyster]

yea thats what im thinking of doing

ive got a 1 tb drive in my pc rn and i can only have like 5 games installed at once

[deep skiff]

yea you can get 2tb drives for like 50-60 so its pretty cheap for adding storage

[lament oyster]

mhm

whats a reliable hdd?

i see sea gate all the time but ive heard on youtube people dont like it

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VNKg9G

thats my build

or the one im saving for

[deep skiff]

im not really knowledgable about hard drives but yea that barracuda is pretty much the go to drive for price/performance

i think it was a different seagate drive cause yea ive heard bad things about some of them but that one i havent seen a lot of complains

[rugged spear]

So, I have a problem.

[lament oyster]

Thanks Nuclear Nachos 🙂

[rugged spear]

My Motherboard (Gigabyte X570 UD) is missing the screws for the NVMe SSD.

[lament oyster]

aw man that sucks

[stoic island]

Seagate 3tb bad

[deep skiff]

do you have the standoff or are u missing everything? @rugged spear

[lament oyster]

i guess youll have to recycle from another build complain to the company or buy some replacements from amazon

[deep skiff]

@stoic island the 2tb one good tho right

[stoic island]

Yea

That build is wack

4000c18 ram lmao

[rugged spear]

And I was wondering if I could just use the screws for the CPU fan thingy.

[lament oyster]

is that bad ram?

i saw it on a few youtube vids 😛

[rugged spear]

do you have the standoff or are u missing everything? @rugged spear
@deep skiff
Standoff?

[stoic island]

I mean on Ryzen

[deep skiff]

ah yes its that seagate drive https://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/B01IEKG4NE/ref=acr_dp_hist_1?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=one_star&reviewerType=all_reviews#reviews-filter-bar

[stoic island]

4000 is kinda a weird spot

Bc if

[lament oyster]

i heard "Faster the bestter"

better*

[stoic island]

You'll have to run it in 1:2 or OC IF

[deep skiff]

yeah the thing on the right and middle @rugged spear

[stoic island]

and it's pretty hard to OC IF to 2000

1900 or so is usually the highest it goes

[lament oyster]

ok well what ram should i look at?

[stoic island]

So that's 3600c16 ram

[deep skiff]

here the lower the better for ram

[stoic island]

@deep skiff I wouldn't go over 3600mhz but yea lower latency be better

[lament oyster]

ok

ill look

[deep skiff]

yea max i'd go is 3800

[lament oyster]

ill send yall the list once i fix it

[deep skiff]

but they dont make many of those kits

[stoic island]

Yea 3800 you can usually do with a slight IF OC to 1900

Also I hate team ram

Any team ram that's not dark pro, I hate

[deep skiff]

lmao

i hate intel but not the 10600k :v

[stoic island]

Lol

[lament oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gTf3Pn

[stoic island]

Dats c18

[deep skiff]

also $5 says mr1 is gonna say 3800x bad

[stoic island]

Grab c16

Vengeance rgb is fine

[rugged spear]

yeah the thing on the right and middle @rugged spear
@deep skiff
Ah. I see.
Unfortunately, no. This is all I found inside the box:

X570 UD Motherboard
AIO Shield
SATA Cable
Instruction Manual
...and that's it. No screws at all 😭

[stoic island]

@deep skiff give 5 bucks I'm not gonna say it

[deep skiff]

but yeah ur paying a lot for looks and we dont pay full price for windows here

[stoic island]

Why that SSD

MP34 good

Sabrent rocket good

Sabrent rocket q not so much

[lament oyster]

ok

lemme look

is that ram ok?

[snow forge]

H

[stoic island]

Get 3600c16 kits

Corsair ram is fine

[analog hearth]

H

[stoic island]

I

[rugged spear]

I got screwed... without a screw!

[deep skiff]

@rugged spear you can buy m.2 screw/standoff kits for like sub $5 online or try to find CM2x3-3.3 screws

[rugged spear]

にゃーん・・・

[stoic island]

@rugged spear try looking in the bag of screws from your case

But it's weird you got no screws with your Mobo

[deep skiff]

yea thats wacky

[rugged spear]

@rugged spear try looking in the bag of screws from your case
@stoic island
Nice idea. I'll do that.

[stoic island]

tape it down

[deep skiff]

or

[stoic island]

Ouch

[rugged spear]

Does NVWe *need* a screw? 🤔

[stoic island]

That poor sn750

No

[deep skiff]

i mean you could just put a little support thing and tape it down

[stoic island]

As long as it's flat and plugged in

It's fine

[deep skiff]

just dont bend it like that

[stoic island]

Taping it down actually won't hurt anything

[lament oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P8g2Pn

[rugged spear]

just dont bend it like that
@deep skiff
I know 😂

Thank you.

[stoic island]

Ram is still cl18
Please fix for cl16

[deep skiff]

well then looks like u know what to do

or just get some dark pros ez

[still roost]

1_Smol_pp#2139 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lament oyster]

ooops

ok lemme see

[stoic island]

One day ima make a good looking build

[deep skiff]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZMtjTC

that day is not today

[lament oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bb93Pn

[stoic island]

Why nachos
Their nice white rgb stuff

[deep skiff]

:( its not in stock

tape paper on them

[stoic island]

3600 cl16 is not in stock?

[deep skiff]

idk i didnt look

[stoic island]

Screw Corsair than

[lament oyster]

it is

for 85 bucks

[stoic island]

3600mhz cl16?

[lament oyster]

mhm

[stoic island]

The one in your list is 3200mhz cl16??

[lament oyster]

nvm

yes

i see that now

i must fix this horrible issue

i suck

[stoic island]

Hehe

Is ok

[lament oyster]

theres no 3600 mhz cl16

😦

oh well ill find a different one

[stoic island]

Have you looked into trident z neo ram

[deep skiff]

3600cl14 or else

[lament oyster]

never heard of it

[deep skiff]

it looks cool

[stoic island]

The color of the side of the ram doesn't matter as much with rgb ram

[deep skiff]

and is pretty good

[stoic island]

I have a 32gb 3600cl16 kit of trident z neo ram

It's good

[lament oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qXwNtp

finally

[stoic island]

It's cheaper to buy 2x16gb of 3600c16 ram but that works too if you just want to fill your ram slots for the rgb

[lament oyster]

i guess i just wanna fill her up idk i dont have rgb at all in my build rn

and its sad

ive got on little orange stripe on my mobo

[stoic island]

Case wise, I'd suggest a TD500 mesh white

Is so good

[lament oyster]

ok yea i dont know much abt cases

[stoic island]

3 preinstalled argb fans

Good airflow

[lament oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P3T8Gc

dis?

its cheaper too

looks nice

i need to find a 2080 super with prices so i know what im looking for price wise

[stoic island]

Ya

It's 700$

Motherboard wise you could just get a X570-p for the same look for 100$ less

[lament oyster]

ooo

i think its just me but i hate the look of the metal usb ports and stuff on the left of the board that go into the io shield

thats why ive got the 570 pro

i might get a different one though bc its pretty expencive

[stoic island]

You should also get a MF120R instead of the ll120 for the extra rear fan so it matches the front fans

[lament oyster]

ok

whats a good mother board that has the things covered on the left?

[stoic island]

Don't know any white ones other than x570-p

Lemme take a look tho

[lament oyster]

well it can be black its fine

it will prob still look good

[stoic island]

Maybe an ASRock x570 pro4, less white though

[lament oyster]

whats the best mother board i can get for the money?

[stoic island]

"best" motherboard is like a 300$ Unify

But a great motherboard is like a 190$ X570-plus wifi

Black tho, doesn't really go with your theme

[lament oyster]

yea

do u think it would look bad?

[stoic island]

Hmm

[deep skiff]

unify is hella sexy tho

[lament oyster]

i wish there was a program on pc part picker or something where you pick out the parts and it shows you a diagram of what it would look like

[deep skiff]

it like cant look bad

[stoic island]

Prob not with a white theme and black motherboard

@deep skiff if everything is white and just unify be black tho...

But what about having a black theme in a white case? @lament oyster

[lament oyster]

i can change colors probably

[deep skiff]

eh the mobo doesnt really matter a lot for color as long as its a solid neutral color

you also have cpu cooler, ram, and gpu blocking parts of it so its harder to tell

[stoic island]

White GPU white AIO tho

But white theme is hard to do anyways

Black theme much easier

[deep skiff]

white is $$$

[stoic island]

White case looks damn nice from the outside

And the black inside still looks sexy

[lament oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FRrTK4

i need a different mobo tho its nearly as expensive as my cpu

[stoic island]

Get an Asus X570-plus wifi

190$

[lament oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h9VJK4

[stoic island]

Should be good

[lament oyster]

i wish i had some computer stores around me

so i could see this stuff in person

[stoic island]

Look around in #build-pics , a good amount of people use td500 mesh

[lament oyster]

im also looking for a good desk

but not something thats 500 dollars for a fricking desk

whats the difference between 2080 and 2080 super?

[stoic island]

Good amount of performance

[deep skiff]

super

[lament oyster]

well

[deep skiff]

2080 isnt really great value rn with 2070 super tho

[lament oyster]

ok

ill get a 2080 super

depending on how much the 3080 will be

or what ever

Is there a guess on how much the 2000 series gpus will go down after the release of the 3000

[stoic island]

I'm guessing not too much

And 3000 will prob be better value

[lament oyster]

Maybe

[stoic island]

That's usually the case

For example 2070 and 2070 super

Both 500$ msrp

Once super came out

Better value

2070 prices dropped to like 450 and now 400

[lament oyster]

Super is still 499

I think

2070 super

[stoic island]

Mhm

And it still keeps it's value

Even though non super prices dropped 100$

That's usually what happens when a new generation comes

[deep skiff]

ya the main price drop is for used cards

[lament oyster]

So the 2080 will prob go down a little but the 2080 super won’t

[stoic island]

No no no

They both will drop in price

But the new stuff will be better value

[lament oyster]

Yea I guess it’s just weird bc all I’ve heard is that the 2080’s are the best and now when I’m going to get one they’re not the best lol

I’m going to wait though

What’s a good gpu for my cpu?

Ryzen 7 3800x

[stoic island]

3700x Iz better

[deep skiff]

3600 is fine just for gaming but 3700x is like $50 cheaper

[lament oyster]

Oh so I should get the ryzen 7 3700x

[stoic island]

yes

[lament oyster]

Ok

are MSI gpus good?

[prisma fossil]

Hey I found an MSI GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB VENTUS GP Video Card for about $390. Should I get that, or an MSI GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X Video Card for $414?

I’m pairing it with a 3600

[robust plover]

Do I need to buy thermal past for a core i3 9100f stock cpu cooler or dose it come with some

[mortal rampart]

You need to buy some

[wary geode]

no it comes with some

@robust plover

[round river]

Will you eventually need to flush a liquid AIO?

[naive cloak]

@prisma fossil the 2070 is a bit faster but 2060 super is cheaper for a better budget build

[deep skiff]

you shouldnt need to flush an aio, only time i would would be if it had easy fill ports like the eisbaer and its been several years or im having problems

[robust plover]

So it comes with some

[prisma fossil]

I included the prices there and for some reason that 2070 is less than the 2070 super @naive cloak

2060 super*

[naive cloak]

@prisma fossil 2070 if its cheaper, it will give you more fps

@opal stratus hi

[prisma fossil]

Okay cool. The only reason I ask is because on the 2060 super the boost clock is 1695 and the core clock is 1470, compared to the boost clock of 1620 and core clock of 1410 on the 2070

[stoic island]

Ventus GP not good @prisma fossil

heatsink be not good

[prisma fossil]

Oh

I’ll just go with the 2060 super it seems to be a little faster and better at over clicking anyways

Thank you

[naive cloak]

@stoic island your a legend,i just checked the 2070 card out and it has a rubbish heatsink

https://tenor.com/view/my-bad-baltimore-orioles-gif-3540816

[stoic island]

lol

told ya

[river locust]

My budget is limited and I actually can't wait so I'm confused on which one to sacrifice, the ssd or the gpu? Please advise me.
500gb and evga rtx 2060 ko,
or
1tb and gtx 1660 super?

[stoic island]

70$ 512gb MP34 + 300$ RTX 2060 KO

that's what you should do

[river locust]

The ssd is actually a 110$, it's corsair mp600

Is the difference between these two gpu's worth it?

[stoic island]

why mp600?

that's my question

I'd suggest a MP34

whole reason I brought up MP34 is in case you went for 970evo or some ridiculously expensive drive

[river locust]

I chose it because my whole rig is pcie 4 which is why I'm broke 😂

And now confused about these last two items, ssd and gpu

[stoic island]

Why is it your whole rig is PCIe 4.0

what do you need PCIe 4.0 for

[river locust]

It's my first build and just tried to get the newest parts that's all

[stoic island]

Yea PCIe 4.0 is useless unless you have a specific use for the speed

You got a PCPP list?

[river locust]

Yes

[stoic island]

send it please

just delete the https:// so the bot doesn't delete it

[river locust]

pcpartpicker.com/list/C4YfWb

All are bought except for these two things

[stoic island]

yea there's no reason for a PCIe 4.0 drive there

just get a MP34 1tb or something

sn750 works too

[river locust]

Appreciate your advice

Thanks

[slim zealot]

I'm gonna make my new pc next week, it will have an ASUS motherboard, intel i9-9900K, 16GB of DDR4, with a pretty old GPU, a 1660 ti

I have data, and storage

[little leaf]

@slim zealot thats a bad combo

[slim zealot]

I know

[little leaf]

Are u planning to upgrade next gen

[slim zealot]

Maybe, but I spent alot, and can't afford a new GPU, so how could I upgrade a MB and a CPU

[little leaf]

@slim zealot why would u get those then

Gpu comes first price wise

[little osprey]

evga rtx 2000 series cards are ugly

ugly transparent plastic

[slim zealot]

I already had a 9th gen mobo taking up space

[little osprey]

🤮

[little leaf]

Couldve sold it

[slim zealot]

so I would make a 9th gen build

[deep skiff]

idk their hydro copper ones are smexy

[little leaf]

Why wouldnt you get a 9600kf and a 2070s

Lmao

Its really stupid to spend 500 on cpu

[slim zealot]

IDK my dad bought me the items

[little leaf]

Im just telling you that was a pretty stupid idea

[slim zealot]

I KNOW

I would've gotten an i7, but he got an i9

[deep skiff]

hey if it’s free it’s probably not a bad idea

[little leaf]

I wouldve gotten a 9600k

And a 2070s

Well what ever

[cursive wharf]

Just sell the mobo and get AMD or 10th gen

Even if you don't sell the mobo, you'll still save more with just getting Intel 10th gen and esp AMD. That's how bad 9th gen pricing is

[slim zealot]

I'm only 14, so my dad thinks that I should learn to work with what we have

He'll get mad if I say I want something new

[cursive wharf]

Just say "I'm learning how to manage money" because you're straight up saving money even when buying all new stuff. If your father doesn't like saving money then oof

Tell him that it isn't always best to work with what you have as well

[slim zealot]

I'm sorry, I don't take advice from people I don't know

Let's just stop this argument

[pure estuary]

@slim zealot thats unfortunate because there is some people here that know Doctorate levels of knowledge of components.

[little osprey]

I have a 2000 limit never built a pc before. But still need a monitor as well any suggestions

[mortal rampart]

Okay I gotchu @little osprey

[little osprey]

For gaming and streaming

[mortal rampart]

Okay ez pz

[stoic island]

mouse keyboard headset

need those?

[deep skiff]

keyboard keyboard keyboard

[next kestrel]

what budget is intel good for?

i was thinking maybe 9100f at microcenter for around 600$ builds or 10600k for 1000$ builds

[little osprey]

Have Astro A50s got a pro gaming controller and got a keyboard and mouse

[mortal rampart]

Okay bet

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QCf69G

@little osprey

Could change some stufd around but that's pretty good imo

[little osprey]

So for streaming and gaming Ryzen better than intel or just cause my budget

[slender owl]

Ryzen is better. Ryzen has more cores and threads.

[fading acorn]

can u guys go to build pic and look at my part list #build-pics

[slender owl]

People usually use the gpu though for handling the streaming cause of the rtx video encoding

[sullen spoke]

rtx isn't a part of video encoding, that would be nvenc, but the rtx cards do have a newer nvenc module

[slender owl]

^

[inland atlas]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574740748801540107/737036914590220298/image0.png

@fading acorn build list

@fading acorn only thing i would change is that psu

i think its in a low tier of psu so not the best

[fading acorn]

oh

uh what should i get

[little leaf]

@fading acorn would change ram cpu mobo and ssd

Whats your budget

[little osprey]

So if you move around a lot it is worth it to have watercooled

[little leaf]

Er wat

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

@mortal rampart

Can u see it or am I still dumb?

[little leaf]

@little osprey you are copying the url on the top

there is another url

@little osprey

[topaz frost]

I’m about to order my r5 3600 and b550 mobo 16 gb of ddr4 3600 speed should I be safe using my rx 580 or should I wait till I get my new gpu too?

[woven wedge]

Rx 580 should be ok till your new one comes in

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rQYVV7

@little leaf like that?

[little leaf]

Yes but that build is bad

[topaz frost]

Ok I wanted to make sure because I’m planning on a 2060 super if I can will that work good for that build @woven wedge

[stark wyvern]

i kinda of need some help on choosing an m.2 ssd

nvme

[little leaf]

mp34

[stark wyvern]

i wanna get an nvme m.2 ssd for my pc but i dunno which to get/ which will be compatible

[little leaf]

mp34

[stark wyvern]

is that something i'm too stupid to understand?

what's that

[dusky depot]

It’s an ssd

Look it up

[stark wyvern]

mhmm alright

[candid saffron]

ROG Strix GA15DH Gaming Desktop PC, AMD Ryzen 7 3700X, AMD Radeon 5700XT Graphics, 16GB DDR4 RAM, 512GB PCIe SSD + 1TB HDD, Wi-Fi 5, Windows 10 Home, GA15DH-DS757 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085T4TGTD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_GSGhFbVJQM0F9 thoughts?

[honest ridge]

Anyone know a good mother board for ryzen CPUs?

[fast dust]

Depends on the CPU

[opal stratus]

Did someone ping me yesterday

Oh it was dead meaty what’s up if you see this

[honest ridge]

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 hows this one?

[fast dust]

@honest ridge budget?

[honest ridge]

400 for CPU MB and RAM

i can go a little over

[fast dust]

Uh so let’s say 16gb 3600MHz is like what? $80? Ryzen 3600 is $160. That’s $240. That leaves quite a bit for motherboard.
If you’re not doing overclocking and want something barebones: B450M DS3H.
If you want a pretty decent mid-range board. B450 Tomahawk or B450 TUF gaming
For another mid-range kinda thing, but with Bette upgrade opportunity, get some sort of B550.
For high end, and if you want to spend all your monies. Get an X570.
Personally, I’d say to get a Tomahawk/tuf gaming board or a lower-end B550 like the B550M DS3H

@honest ridge

[honest ridge]

ok thanks i will look into it

is there a specific RAM you would recommend

[fast dust]

GSkill Ripjaws is always good

Very nice basic kit for a pretty good price

[honest ridge]

ok sweet

[fast dust]

Try to get 3600MHz CL16

3200Mhz CL16 will work too, but 3600 is better since it’s Ryzen

[honest ridge]

im trying to upgrade my pc its just gotten old

[fast dust]

Ah nice! What’s in your old system?

@honest ridge

[honest ridge]

0_0

uhhh

one sec

[fast dust]

I love old-ish hardware

[honest ridge]

you want GPC and CPU?

it was pre built too

[fast dust]

Yeah CPU+GPU and maybe amount of ram. I’m curious

[naive cloak]

@opal stratus hi matey

[honest ridge]

CPU - AMD FX 8320

[fast dust]

oooh FX

I’m actually building an FX machine rn

[honest ridge]

cool its just old and it feels like its dying

[fast dust]

Yeah well FX chips weren’t ever really good. They had a bunch of cores and used a lot of power, but didn’t have good IPC or core performance

[honest ridge]

RAM - orginally had 16bg and i just got 16 more so 32 total

[fast dust]

Oh nice

[honest ridge]

sadly its DDR3

so if i upgrade thats gone

[naive cloak]

is there a great difference between 3000mhz vs 3200mhz ram

[fast dust]

Eh well DDR3 has tighter timings so it’s still not that bad

@naive cloak on Ryzen, yes. On Intel, not much

[honest ridge]

soggy this is gonna sound bad but i forgot how to check what gpu i have

[naive cloak]

few i have 32gb of 3000mhz

[honest ridge]

its radeon somethin

[fast dust]

Go to device manager and then display adapters

@naive cloak what CL?

[honest ridge]

GPU - radeon RX 480

thx

[naive cloak]

@fast dust cl15 ??

[fast dust]

Ooh RX 480 not bad

@fast dust cl15 ??
Oh okay. At least it’s not CL17+

[honest ridge]

ive also never absolutely needed good graphics so im doing CPU upgrades first

theres no need for 32GB right?

16 is fine?

[fast dust]

Yes

[sand falcon]

For almost everyone, 16GB is more than enough

[honest ridge]

cool cool

[naive cloak]

@fast dust what is that cas latency ?

[fast dust]

How fast the ram can access stuff pretty much

The lower the better

[honest ridge]

what about first word latency

[fast dust]

Lots of people think speed is all that is important, but CL is too.
e. g. A 3600MHz CL18 kit is about as fast as a 3200MHz CL16 kit

First world latency?

[honest ridge]

yes

[naive cloak]

@fast dust thank you

[honest ridge]

also can i send screenshots here?

[fast dust]

Yeah you can

And tbh, I’ve never heard of 1st world latency.

[honest ridge]

whats the difference?

[fast dust]

One is 3600MHz the other is 3200

[honest ridge]

is the 15ish dollar difference worth it?

[fast dust]

And it looks like 1st world latency is literally just the amount of latency in nanoseconds

Yes for $15 I think so

[honest ridge]

so you say the right?

[fast dust]

Yes. The 3600MHz one

[honest ridge]

ok cool

what about Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

im looking and it has the same specs as the left ripjaws but its a bit cheaper

[fast dust]

Sure. Not as good as the ripjaws 3600MHz

But still fine

[honest ridge]

yea fs

[plucky cradle]

should I get the EVGA - 600W ATX 12V/EPS 12V 80 Plus Power Supply - Black or the Thermaltake - SMART 700W ATX 80 Plus Power Supply - Black

[fast dust]

@plucky cradle none of them. They’re both garbage

[honest ridge]

lol

[plucky cradle]

Do you have a suggestion for a psu 600-700w under $80

[fast dust]

Do you really need 600? What is your CPU+GPU?

@plucky cradle

[plucky cradle]

my cpu is a ryzen 5 3600x and my gou is going to be a gigabyte 3 face 5700 xt

[solemn pollen]

750 works fine for me with a 2080ti

[fast dust]

Uh. Then get a better PSU. Don’t cheap out on it. Get at least a Corsair CX (gray label) or a Cooler Master MWE @plucky cradle

[plucky cradle]

ok

[fast dust]

Maybe get a Ryzen 3600 non X to save money and then get better PSU

[stoic island]

hate team :PPP

[fast dust]

Also you can run off of a 550w

[stoic island]

600w works

Pure power 11

[fast dust]

@plucky cradle

[stoic island]

Neo Eco zen

both were 80$

[plucky cradle]

ok, thanks

what is wrong with evga?

[fast dust]

That model is bad. They make some good models, some bad

Model > brand my friend

[rugged spear]

Okay. I have another problem...

[stoic island]

TT smart is bad, EVGA N1/W1 bad

[plucky cradle]

ok, one last question what is the difference between 3600 and 3600x

[fast dust]

Check the pins for a PSU tier list. Get B+ or better

[stoic island]

3600x higher boost clock

thats about it

basically same sillicon

[fast dust]

3600X is a little better, but not good value. The performance jump isn’t worth it for the price jump compared to 3600

[rugged spear]

My Focus G (Fractal Design) Case has the POWER SW and RESET SW without +/- labels on them, but my Motherboard specifies the polarity. What should I do?

[stoic island]

@rugged spear I just slapped em on same orientation as HDD LED

:P

[rugged spear]

@rugged spear I just slapped em on same orientation as HDD LED
@stoic island
I had just noticed that there were tiny triangles on the HDD LED cable on the + polarity, so I followed such orientation(s) alike for the other two. Thank you for the advice!

[plucky cradle]

how well would a amd ryzen 5 3600 go with a 5700 xt

[stoic island]

good

[plucky cradle]

Is it worth the extra 50 for 3600x?

[stoic island]

no

[plucky cradle]

ok, thank you

also would a nzxt kraken 53 work well with the 3600

[deep skiff]

53 would be pretty overkill, the stock cooler works fine or gammax 400 (probably spelled wrong) or scythe mugen 5 rev b/fuma 2 are really good for 50-60

[fading acorn]

@little leaf 1000$

[cinder wedge]

What type of RGB strip would I need for this motherboard?

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Performance-Gaming-Crossfire-Motherboard/dp/B07XHH4YG4

Fist timer here

[robust plover]

Dose any one know anything about the gigabyte b365m ds3h 1151 board

[safe bobcat]

What is the cheapest mother board that supports ryzen 3000 out of the box

[lament oyster]

cheapest is not always the best...

that makes no sense

[safe bobcat]

Ik

[lament oyster]

dont listen to me... i installed my ram wrong 2 years ago and fixed it TODAY

[safe bobcat]

Niceee

Single channel?

[lament oyster]

dual

dual now anyway

[little osprey]

Better late than never

[lament oyster]

thats true

[vivid coral]

Which one(s) should I ask him about

[fast dust]

Water cooling

[vivid coral]

Oof

Cuz I'm building a PC soon I figured maybe I'll just get that if they're good prices

[fast dust]

What CPU

[vivid coral]

Otherwise I'll just to air cool

Probably a 3600x

Which is a ryzen 5 right?

Sorry I'm having a brain fart

[fast dust]

3600X bad value. Just get normal 3600 instead. 3600X doesn’t have enough of a performance jump to justify the bigger price tag.

Yes it’s a Ryzen 5

[vivid coral]

Ok lol

[fast dust]

And don’t water cool those unless you are gonna do some heavy overclocking

Not worth

[vivid coral]

The GPU will either be a 2060 super or 2070

Oof ok

[fast dust]

👌

[strong cliff]

Sup build chat, I’m in the market for a white, 360mm aio orrrrr air cooler. Any ideas?

[fast dust]

For what cpu @strong cliff

[strong cliff]

3900x, apologies should have clarified for an am4

[fast dust]

Are you like gonna overclock it or something?

[strong cliff]

Of course

[fast dust]

Mm mm gotcha

[strong cliff]

I really like the white Corsair aio but it’s only in a 240mm option 😭

[fast dust]

Okay, a white 360mm AIO, coming up

[strong cliff]

Hell yeah yam daddy, much thanks

[fast dust]

Wait what’s your budget?

Also, RGB?

[strong cliff]

200 with some wiggle room, rgb isn’t a must if it’s a great aio but it would be a plus

[fast dust]

Aight

Rrrrrgh my phone is being mega slow

Alright @strong cliff. This one looks pretty good: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1545833-REG/deepcool_castle_360_ex_wh_castle_360ex_white_liquid.html?ap=y&smp=y

[rugged spear]

I have a concern...

[fast dust]

cool

Jk

What is it

[rugged spear]

I'm connecting the CX550M to RX580 (Sapphire), but... Is the PCIe cable supposed to be hanging loose like this?

It doesn't feel right.

[fast dust]

Yeah that’s fine

[opal stratus]

Yeah

It just doesn’t use as much power as some other cards

[fast dust]

You can zip tie it to the other side of the cable if you want

[wanton crystal]

I have a question maybe someone can help. For some reason I can control my fans rgb. They are plugged into the fan hub which is plugged into the argb port on the motherboard. Any ideas? For reference I have a b550 steel legend case is a thermaltake view 51 argb. If i use the ttrgp program it says fan controller not found with some weird error code. If I use the asroxk polychrome I can change the cpu argb and the motherboard argb but not on the fans.

[rugged spear]

@fast dust @opal stratus
Thank you! 🙇

[opal stratus]

👍🏼

@naive cloak what’s up lmao

[fast dust]

@rugged spear here’s an example of what I did when I had a PSU that did that. I just used a twist-it (can use zip tie top of course) and made the two stick together basically

[robust plover]

Can you make a radiator fan a exosst fan

[fast dust]

Yeah

[robust plover]

So you mont the fan against the case and the radiator is facing inwards

[fast dust]

No, have the fan blow air through the radiator and then out of the case

[rugged spear]

@fast dust Great idea! Thank you!

[fast dust]

Aww yeah. Looks sweet

[robust plover]

Oh so the fan faces inward

[little osprey]

Nice tweezers you used there.

[robust plover]

What is 4 pin pwm mean

[cursive wharf]

you control a fan via electrical pulses rather then voltage (3 pin)

[lament oyster]

Can someone help me? #build-pics

[cursive wharf]

of dear lord discord doesnt like that

not on dark theme at least

there we go

[robust plover]

Oh if I put it in a regular 4 pin cpu connector will it still work

[cursive wharf]

a CPU connector and fan connector are very different and wont work together

[deep skiff]

yeah i was gonna say those wont fit remotely close

[robust plover]

A cpu cooler connector

[deep skiff]

unless u mean a cpu fan header

ya that should work in a 4 pin fan header

[robust plover]

Ok cool

[cursive wharf]

you can plug it into the cpu 4 pin fan header. Make sure that isnt the actual CPU power cable tho, that's different

[robust plover]

Yeah I know

Do intel stock cpu coolers come with thermal paste