#building-and-recc-chat

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cursive wharf
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10980XE and 2060 non S?

final void
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easier

silk estuary
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You're making all of us hurt inside

little leaf
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Hei yes

cursive wharf
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believe 10980XE is 1k

little leaf
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nononono lets go thread ripper pro

cursive wharf
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cant

final void
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Threadripper

cursive wharf
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no AMD

silk estuary
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He's joking

cursive wharf
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sadly means no dual Epyc with 128c/256t

silk estuary
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Cuz this build is gonna be a joke lmao

little leaf
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damnnnn

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forgot

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ok ok

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so xeon

final void
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Hes gonna be back in like 2 weeks asking why his pc doesnt work lmao

little leaf
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Can a mod make an ignorance role?

cursive wharf
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ye, 56c max unless super expensive mobo iirc

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wonder how pricy a 4p xeon board is, and what the newest one is

little leaf
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nonono

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ok i310100

fallow oar
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okay boys

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ryzen it is

silk estuary
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I cant tell if he's joking or not

fallow oar
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nah im fr

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which one

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yall wanna join a call?

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in here

final void
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no

silk estuary
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no

final void
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brain hurt

fallow oar
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damn toxic

cursive wharf
fallow oar
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lol

cursive wharf
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btw used 2080Ti

fallow oar
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hei im doing ryzen

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cause i trust you

cursive wharf
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then again 10600k is super hard to buy rn as well

fallow oar
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okay so ryzen will last and be good for streaming?

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and is good to oc right

little leaf
cursive wharf
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well, just about any CPU that plays games well does streaming well due to NVENC encoding

final void
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Where is rgb @little leaf

little leaf
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sry

final void
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cmon now

fallow oar
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facts i need rgb

little leaf
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best build list ever

final void
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💯

fallow oar
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fr 2100$ max

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best ryzen build rn for streaming and playing

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high frames and good quality streams

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^

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2100$ with tax btw

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not before taxes

cursive wharf
fallow oar
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i dont want a used 2080 homie

little leaf
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Hei no need for the cooler

fallow oar
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i want water cooling

little leaf
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no

fallow oar
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that thing is mad ugly

final void
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just put a bottle in it

cursive wharf
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then custom loop?

little leaf
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did you know that you can submerge a cpu in water

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for faster speeds

final void
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This kid is gonna mess up his pc so bad

fallow oar
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damn i guess i have to go back to intel

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if i want water cooling

little leaf
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wat........

final void
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🤷‍♂️

little leaf
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intel is not cheaper

fallow oar
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cause aircolling is mad ugly

little leaf
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you can water cooler amd chips lmao

fallow oar
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bro what are these brands

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i only buy top brand items

little leaf
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buying brands lol

fallow oar
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magine buying a zotac card

cursive wharf
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why not look into specs?

fallow oar
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ZOTAC

little leaf
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@cursive wharf isn't mp34 better?

fallow oar
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LIKE WHAT

little leaf
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higher speeds

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this guy thinks he knows pc

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doesn't know what zotac is

fallow oar
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i dont want a used card

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i aint ab that

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new only

final void
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He think brands=performance

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0 iq

fallow oar
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i dont

little leaf
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Guys the all new razer blender

fallow oar
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piza time for you to go to bed lil man

cursive wharf
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then you want to spend an extra $250 USD for a 2080Ti?

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25% extra or so

fallow oar
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yes

little leaf
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Imma go die

cursive wharf
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you'll be over budget

fallow oar
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i would rather have a 2080 or a 2070s at that point

final void
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🥱

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Just buy a prebuilt

fallow oar
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magine

final void
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Can already tell ur pc is gonna be verge quality

cursive wharf
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why? any 2080Ti beats a 2080S/2080/2070S

fallow oar
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yeah but not by that much

little leaf
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something like this and then water cool it all with custom loop

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case is place holder

fallow oar
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i dont know how to do that

cursive wharf
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and a ROG doesnt beat a Zotac by that much either. So why complain about Zotac?

little leaf
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and wrong should be p400a

final void
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Then dont say u wanna water cool

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Smh

fallow oar
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i do want a water cooler

final void
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u gotta do a loop then

digital finch
fallow oar
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wtf is a loop

final void
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Dont do a water cooled pc

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Then

cursive wharf
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there you go, full CPU/GPU custom loop on 3600/used 2080Ti

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also RGB

fallow oar
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i dont want a used 2080ti

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im not buying used parts im sorry

little leaf
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y........

fallow oar
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cause i dont trust that

cursive wharf
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what is there to not trust?

digital finch
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ESD shortening lifespan of sensitive parts?

little leaf
digital finch
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Accidental that is

fallow oar
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im just gonna buy what i want yall are just trolling at this point

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intel it is

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later

final void
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Go for it

little leaf
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lmao verge pc time

final void
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^

little leaf
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I really hope he goes intel and fucs it up

final void
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2 weeks later hes gonna ask why it doesnt work

cursive wharf
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I mean hey, if you want worse perf then go for it man

little leaf
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buys intel cpu

still roostBOT
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Jon.#5903 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

little leaf
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gets amd mobo

final void
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lmao

little leaf
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it don't fit

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y?

fallow oar
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how am i going to mess up an intel build lol

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im not even building it

final void
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i can tell

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ur literally 0 iq

little leaf
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lmao just get a prebuilt then cause you can't build

final void
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^

fallow oar
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go to bed little guy fr

final void
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Fortnite kid

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2080 ti and RGB

fallow oar
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magine spending an extra 500$ on a prebuilt

cursive wharf
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cant say much when buying Intel tho

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

final void
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^

fallow oar
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piza ur pc is probably so bad lol

final void
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lmao

little leaf
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lmao

final void
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I have my pc lisy if u wanna see it lmao

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I dont see ur point

fallow oar
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porbably trash

final void
little leaf
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This kid is actually 6

final void
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Literally ur build list

fallow oar
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lol

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2 years ago

final void
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Mhmm

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Whyd u get so pressed all of a sudden

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😂

little leaf
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@ripe osprey ?

fallow oar
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awh do you need a mod

little leaf
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sorry for ping

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but can u make incompetence role?

final void
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were trynna help u and ur not accepting any criticism

ripe osprey
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no

little leaf
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damn

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ok

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sorry have fun in siege

cursive wharf
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mods have so much responsibility. Imagine having to do mod work in the middle of a game

final void
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lmaoo

little osprey
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all they have to do is press windows key doe

cursive wharf
little leaf
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sure

ripe osprey
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selling

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reeeeeeee

little osprey
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i dont got the money for a custom loop

final void
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ight imma sleep now

little leaf
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I'm brok

little osprey
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lol gn

cursive wharf
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Anyone want a 2k list with

final void
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Guy was too annoying to leave on a bad note

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lmao

cursive wharf
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not selling. ha

ripe osprey
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😛

cursive wharf
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unless Im selling the list

final void
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Sell lists on fiverr

little osprey
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jon was my friend he wont listen to me either that ryzen is better

cursive wharf
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well, people are people I guess

little osprey
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yea...

cursive wharf
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but tbh, not surprising

little leaf
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ignoranant people are ignorant

little osprey
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i told them these guys are good at pc stuff then he just wanted to argue w you guys

cursive wharf
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basic human psychology is to reject the unknown

edgy viper
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I mean technically Intel is better for gaming, but not for the price

cursive wharf
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it is to an extent, which is not sacrificing on the GPU

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which for almost everyone, kinda does sacrifice on GPU

edgy viper
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Yeah true

little osprey
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thats why i play seige on vulkan

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less stress

little leaf
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look at my list

cursive wharf
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backfire effect, that's what it's called

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rejecting the info that differ from your core beliefs

little osprey
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hei woke

little leaf
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anyone wanna buy the rights to my list?

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100

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for the list

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100 pence

little osprey
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lol

little leaf
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ok tough crowd

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75

cursive wharf
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kinda woke, this was a conversation I had with the legendary Naed

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while ago

little osprey
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ima go play sum val laterrr

edgy viper
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I'm just hoping my psu is enough for my gpu upgrade in sep/oct

cursive wharf
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which PSU is it? CPU and planned GPU as well?

edgy viper
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1200w p2 and I have a 3960x and I'm upgrading to 2 of the top end cards (3080ti or 3090 whatever they call it)

little leaf
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should be

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unless power is much above the 2080ti

edgy viper
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I'm running dual 1080tis now and I have like 100w of room lol

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I've seen the cpu hit 350w and the gpus hit 330w

cursive wharf
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good PSUs can do 10% overload easily

muted egret
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Idk what to do anymore, I'm almost gonna give up over here on my PC build because I mainly want it for streaming and some gaming but I'm realizing simply runnning things like OBS is impossible to do, let alone dropping over a thousand dollars just to get an average okay PC to do these things on AND I just got my own 1st PC 2 years ago from a pawn shop, so its like, is this even worth it??? ...

coarse jasper
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ok i have a question i have a thermaltake power modular power supply and the 8-pin pcie and cpu plugs plu into the same slot. how does the power supply know which one im plugging in since they are completely different plugs. one has 5 grnds and 3 power and one has 4 grounds and 4 power??

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just upgrade warlord buys parts. buy used. only upgrade what you need

mellow basalt
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I got my cpu, gpu, psu, ram, and motherboard. Is there anything else I need besides a monitor?

edgy viper
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case?

mellow basalt
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I have that

edgy viper
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I would get a ups but thats pure choice

mellow basalt
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?

edgy viper
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battery backup

mellow basalt
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I got every screw drive as well

desert gulch
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Peripherals?

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And possible cpu cooler if you want?

mellow basalt
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@desert gulch I already got the mouse, keyboard, headphones, and cpu cooler

thick violet
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Nice

little osprey
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Hey I have a question

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So my 1660 super ( evga ultra sc )

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Is supposed to get like 60 fps stable on most games on ultra

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And it pretty much does that

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But why do my games act really laggy the first few times I open them and mess with settings

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But when I use geforce experience and it optimizes them to those settings

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It runs fine?

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It literally makes no sense that i'd get worse performance by lowering the settings

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Like I should be able to get 60 fps on rust

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But instead I get like 70ish with weird frame timings

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Maybe I just need a new monitor

little osprey
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Can a regular tower work with a touch screen Monitor?

analog hearth
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I don't see why not

silk estuary
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Is there a thing where you need something special for touchscreen monitors?

analog hearth
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afaik, touch screen monitors only use power, display, and either USB or serial (probably USB). I'm pretty sure the USB is for touch and USB Type-A ports that are on the monitor

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not sure why you'd want a touch screen monitor though

rapid island
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Where do we talk about cables??

analog hearth
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here

rapid island
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I want to finish my build with some nice neat cables + cable combs, not sure what the best is or how to measure properly

analog hearth
rapid island
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I did a complete new build back in January, so now money is back where it should be again, i'm going to do the finishing touches

analog hearth
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I wouldn't go more than 3' for an average sized build. and I'd typically just go with cablemod for custom cables

rapid island
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ok i will take a look at their cable kits

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thanks

orchid wagon
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Question should I upgrade now or wait for the new stuff later this year.
my current build: cpu: AMD Phenom II x4 945,
Cpu cooler: Cooler master, Mobo: ASRock M3A770DE, RAM: 4x 2gb Kingston DRR3,
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2g,
PSU: EVGA BT450 80+ Bronze.
I currently work on this computer at home, and with all my work programs open and a couple of browser tabs open it uses 60% of the memory. Also I already had trouble once trying to update windows 10. I'm thinking of a new build around $1,000 to $1,500.

little osprey
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Ddr3

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Ram

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Bro

orchid wagon
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Yes built it two years ago from parts a friend gave me.

little osprey
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Ah

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That makes sense

orchid wagon
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It does fine on gaming but not on multitasking.

vestal cove
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Someone @ me??

orchid wagon
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Also when I got the parts I had no io shield for my motherboard. Also had to plug a external hard drive for storage, since the internal 1tb hard disk drive was almost full.

little osprey
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why didn't you clear the disk drive lmao

orchid wagon
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It was clean I only recently had to do that after having all my games and coding programs and projects on it.

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for two years of stuff on it.

fast dust
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@orchid wagon lol pretty much anything is an upgrade to you at this point. What’s your budget for upgrade? If it’s low, you might not want to wait cause lower end stuff’s prices might not drop at all

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But then again prices suck hard right now, so waiting might still be a good option

untold cedar
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When is 3000 series Nvidia coming out?

potent prairie
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This year

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That's all we know atm

untold cedar
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Du I

still roostBOT
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used condom#3103 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

untold cedar
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Cause I wanted this card

potent prairie
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I'd consider changing your nickname before a mod has to

untold cedar
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Oh

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Right

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This better

potent prairie
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Looks fine to me now

opal stratus
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Man no AMD mITX boards are in stock, worth going w/intel instead?

silk estuary
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no

opal stratus
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Ok 👌🏼

plucky cradle
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Would a ryzen 5 3600x work well with a
XFX - THICC III Ultra AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB?

desert gulch
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Yes

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What's the x cost rn?

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Also don't the xfx cards have overheating problems?

plucky cradle
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ok it is about 400

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I wanna build my first pc

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@desert gulch what brand should I get then?

desert gulch
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Gigabyte

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It's the best on cooling and all

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Next up would be sapphire pulse

potent prairie
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Gigabyte 🤮

desert gulch
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It's the best 5700xt

potent prairie
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Shop for the item, not the brand tho

plucky cradle
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ok

desert gulch
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Look at temps on xfx cards tho

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They get over 100

plucky cradle
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I wasn't shopping for the brand, any suggestions for a first time builder

desert gulch
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Night is the 3600x worth it over the non-x?

potent prairie
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Send your build here before you buy for critique

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I don't think so

plucky cradle
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ok thanks one sec

silk estuary
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What's wrong with gigabyte? D:<

potent prairie
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I have a mild distaste for their software, but that is just personal bias

opal stratus
potent prairie
opal stratus
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Is getting this worth not waiting for Gigabyte mITX X570 Board to come back in stock?

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Also don’t get 3600x over 3600 unless they’re almost the same price

potent prairie
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I'd look at some B550 boards if you are spending that much on one

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Like $170 can get you an B550 MSI Mortar Wifi or something nice like that

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Do you have a PCPP build?

opal stratus
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Looking for mITX

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Yeah I do I’ll link it

potent prairie
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Ah, that makes thing a little more difficult

plucky cradle
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it won't let me send the link

potent prairie
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Dm me

plucky cradle
potent prairie
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Meh SSD

plucky cradle
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that isn't mine

potent prairie
plucky cradle
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whats that?

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nvm

potent prairie
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Your parts list lol

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@ comet PSU is trash if I recall correctly

plucky cradle
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what should I get then

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for the power supply

potent prairie
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Looking, hold on a sec

plucky cradle
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ok thanks

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so I need to find a new psu and gpu

plucky cradle
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ok, and what about the gpu?

opal stratus
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2060S might be a better option imo

potent prairie
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I don't have a lot of experience with AMD cards and don't feel too comfortable making rec there

opal stratus
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I’ve heard of driver issues with AMD cards, let’s see what the expert thinks xd

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There really isn’t much of/any difference, personally I’d choose 2060S

plucky cradle
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but the price

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is the main issue for me

potent prairie
plucky cradle
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nvm I am dumb just searche dit up

opal stratus
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2060S shouldn’t be much more than $400?

plucky cradle
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@opal stratus @potent prairie thank you

opal stratus
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Also I believe the 5700 has worse thermals

plucky cradle
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evga or msi @opal stratus

opal stratus
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MSI

potent prairie
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I wouldn't

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EVGA does very well with warranty

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Given the choice I always go EVGA, esp over MSI or another with a bad customer service rep

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Looking for mITX
@opal stratus Maybe look at the B550-I from ROG, on backorder but $75 less for a good board. I would def get an MP34 over the p1

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evga my man

plucky cradle
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what is the difference between 2060 super and 2060?

opal stratus
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Super has better performance

plucky cradle
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ok

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so a 3600x is good?

opal stratus
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Also can you go gigabyte?

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And I’d go 3600 over 3600x

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Unless you can get the 3600x for close to the same price as a 3600

plucky cradle
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or
Intel - Core i5-9600K 9th Generation 6-Core - 6-Thread - 3.7 GHz (4.6 GHz Turbo)

potent prairie
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Also can you go gigabyte?
Any reason to?

plucky cradle
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amd 3600x or
Intel - Core i5-9600K 9th Generation 6-Core - 6-Thread - 3.7 GHz (4.6 GHz Turbo)

potent prairie
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Intel has a slight edge in gaming, but AMD is better everywhere else

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I'd go AMD

plucky cradle
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ok thanks

potent prairie
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Unless all you do is game

opal stratus
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Go 3600 not 3600x, and gigabyte 2060S

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Gigabyte has better thermals and it’s quieter than both msi and evga

potent prairie
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I'd agree with the 3600 bit, but I really would get the cheapest one with a decent cooler, not specifically gigabyte

opal stratus
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I mean yeah they’ll all perform similarly

potent prairie
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Gigabyte as a whole? Maybe for certain coolers, but I wouldn't make a broad claim on that

opal stratus
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Huh?

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I’m talking about 2060 super...

silk estuary
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I just have a gigabyte gpu

opal stratus
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Not the whole brand

silk estuary
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I like it

cold sorrel
potent prairie
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I’m talking about 2060 super...
@opal stratus They make more than one version

opal stratus
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Gigabyte?

potent prairie
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yea

silk estuary
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@opal stratus Check this out on @Newegg: GIGABYTE Geforce RTX 2060 OC 6G Graphics Card, 2 x WINDFORCE Fans, 6GB 192-Bit GDDR6, GV-N2060OC-6GD Video Card https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2060-gv-n2060oc-6gd/p/N82E16814932115?Item=N82E16814932115&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-14-932-115-_-07252020

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Get death stranding for free too

potent prairie
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This is currently what I'm thinking my build will look like: (I already have the case and keyboard, monitor is due to arrive Thursday)
Good SSD choice. PSU is good but I think there are cheaper A-tiers. Good RAM choice. Looks solid to me

cold sorrel
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What's kind of funny is I bought the case back in May. I was waiting on b550 to buy the rest, but then everything went crazy.

silk estuary
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oof

potent prairie
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Yea. I mean you can still get deals but it's way harder

cold sorrel
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I bought the case when I did because I got a good deal on it.

silk estuary
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I'm waiting for 3000 series before deciding on going for a 2080ti or a 3070s

potent prairie
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Good way to do it is to be patient and keep an eye out on warehouse deals and the like

silk estuary
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nice

potent prairie
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I'm waiting on Zen 3 and 3000 series before I finish my sis's build

opal stratus
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When’s 3000 coming out?

potent prairie
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This year at some point

silk estuary
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If 3900x price drops cuz of 4000 series I'm getting it

cold sorrel
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I think September is the popularly rumored time

opal stratus
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At some point ;-;

silk estuary
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Got myself an x570 board so I'll be good

potent prairie
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I wish I had waited for my rig, but whatevs. This will last me well till RTX 4000 series, ddr5, and whatever gen threadripper is out 🙂

silk estuary
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ddr6 ram when

opal stratus
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Oh yeah night what’s the difference between the 2 ssds

potent prairie
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Which one did you have selected again?

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P1, right

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P1 is OK, but it is QLC and a good bit slower

silk estuary
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actually

potent prairie
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QLC means four bits per cell, less durability and speed than the norm

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MP34 is $6 more for TLC and better speeds

silk estuary
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Any cheap large capacity 7200 hdd deals?

opal stratus
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Seagate barracuda

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2TB for like $54

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Also ty night

potent prairie
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Yw

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**SSD Considerations: **
• DRAM/HMB: DRAM/HMB is basically ram on your SSD that stores metadata (google it). An SSD without DRAM can get much slower than a HHD as it fills up. HMD allows your SSD to use your system memory for this, but not all CPUs support it. DRAM/HMB is the pretty much the most important consideration when purchasing an SSD.
• Bits per cell: SLC (1) > MLC (2) > TLC (3) > QLC (4). TLC is the norm, the more bits per cell, the less durable and fast.
• Interface: NVMe SSD> SATA SSD > HHD. Don't assume all M.2 SSDs are better than Serial ATA. NVMe drives are much faster than SATA SSDs, which are much faster than HHDs. M.2 is just the form factor, they can still be Sata drives and run slower.
• Law of Diminishing Returns: SATA SSDs with DRAM offer tangible speed improvements, but a HHD --> SATA SSD is a much bigger jump in performance than an SSD --> NVME or an NVME --> Gen 4 NVMe. Don't feel that you need to buy the newest Gen 4 NVMe, they don't offer that much more than a good Gen 3
• Brand: Don't shop for a brand, shop for the product. Some brands (AHEM Samsung) make good products but charge a premium for them.
• Speed: Faster is better, but keep in mind the Law of Diminishing Returns.

Use this master spreadsheet to find the above information: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/edit#gid=0

mellow basalt
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Is this ssd good?

silk estuary
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Oof

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119 for 1 tb?

mellow basalt
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92.99

potent prairie
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No. It has no DRAM or HMB and is pretty close to the price of an actually good SSD. Can be OK for storage

silk estuary
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Yeah that's not better

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92 for 1 tb

mellow basalt
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So which one should I go with?

potent prairie
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Gimmie a few to get a suggestion

mellow basalt
#

K no problem 🙂

silk estuary
#

860 QVO leldog

potent prairie
#

Samsung. Also QLC. Meh

mellow basalt
#

Can you possibly do me a favor?

silk estuary
#

wut

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why do you need the picture

mellow basalt
#

Nvm I took the picture

silk estuary
#

sus

mellow basalt
#

Cause I’m looking in the ssd section so he asked if I had a picture to see if they have it

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I’ll brb though

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@silk estuary sorry about that

silk estuary
#

wat

potent prairie
#

@cursive wharf
Sorry for the tag but I wanted to confirm something about SSDs that I am a little sketchy on. Is HMB supported on all CPUs? I think I remember someone saying intel didn't support it and now I must confirm it

mellow basalt
#

@silk estuary you said that was sus so I was apologizing cause ik what you mean but the guy asked for a picture so that’s why I was asking

desert gulch
#

Does a p2 have dram?

little leaf
#

No

#

It uses system mem

desert gulch
#

Is that good?

#

Like in terms of speed?

potent prairie
#

It is HMB. Not as good as DRAM, but OK

#

Get one with DRAM if you can

desert gulch
#

Does mp34 have dram?

potent prairie
#

Yep

desert gulch
#

Cool

little leaf
#

Mp34 I think best bang for buc

mellow basalt
#

How important is the case USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type C port

potent prairie
#

Depends if you need/want USB C

buoyant flame
#

Hey, random question. But are you a moderator on the toms hardware forum? @potent prairie

potent prairie
#

Nope... why'd you ask?

buoyant flame
#

Oh, I saw a guy in there today that had nearly the same pfp as you

plucky cradle
#

does anyone know if the ADATA - XPG SPECTRIX D60 RGB Gaming Memory: 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL16 GREY - Gray is anygood

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or should I go with rgb corsair vengeance

potent prairie
#

Oh, I saw a guy in there today that had nearly the same pfp as you
Yeah, I think I've interacted with him before. He has good taste ig 🙂

little leaf
#

@plucky cradle if ryzen I would go witha 3600 cl16 kit

plucky cradle
#

uh that may be out of my budget

#

I was think the ADATA or the Corsair Vengence RGB since they are about the same price

little leaf
#

A 3600 cl16 is like 77

plucky cradle
#

do you have a link

plucky cradle
#

ok but is the corsair vengeance any good

little leaf
#

Overpriced

plucky cradle
#

it is the same price

#

on Newegg and best buy

little leaf
#

Slower speeds

plucky cradle
#

ok thanks

silk estuary
#

My vengeance works great

little leaf
#

@silk estuary overpriced

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Though

silk estuary
#

I didn't need to be pinged for that

#

I read it already why would I need to read it again

cold sorrel
#

I'm sort of debating if I want to just go ahead and pull the trigger on buying the rest of my parts list now.

old hearth
#

10900k, MSI z490, 32 Gb of ram, 3080 (when out), Lian li pc case, 850 watt power supply, and 360 mm cpu cooler, with extra cooler master fans sound, and any recommendations for first time builder

little osprey
#

you can cut the cost by going amd cpu

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but if you want intel

analog hearth
#

Do some extra research while you wait for the parts

little osprey
#

go ahead

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your just gonna be paying extra for barely any extra performance

analog hearth
#

@little osprey 10900K actually is the best choice if money isn’t a thing at all

little osprey
#

yea

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but if he wants to do other things

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other than gaming

#

then he should go amd

stoic island
little osprey
#

but if its gaming

analog hearth
#

Yeah I’d go AMD at that point

little osprey
#

then its would make sense

#

hardcore gamer

stoic island
#

I mean if you're spending 3000$ on a build

#

intel works

analog hearth
#

Lmfaoo yeah like why not Intel at that point

little osprey
#

around 4 grand CAD

#

so yea

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go ahead

analog hearth
#

Or just build two systems if you’re going to stream/record

little osprey
#

but if he wants to do other stuff other than gaming, go amd

stoic island
#

maybe

old hearth
#

I mean I’m looking for some light streaming, my first choice was the 3900x but then the new intel ones came out with a little better performance for task then the last one

stoic island
#

hehe

cold sorrel
#

I'm definitely going Ryzen this time. I remain infinitely amused the last time I had a desktop it was an AMD 64 machine, and now that I'm going back to a desktop I'm returning to AMD after a string of Intel based laptops.

stoic island
#

3950x be existing

old hearth
#

And I usually just play games though so

stoic island
#

better binned than 3900x

little osprey
#

Intel laptops were better before ryzen mobile but now they are not as good

#

my amd laptops would crash on me

analog hearth
#

@cold sorrel 4th gen won’t be much of an upgrade (unless AMD does something like ‘24c/48t’)

little osprey
#

like in the early 2000s

stoic island
#

they could

#

and they're claiming like 20% iPC gains

#

I'll wait and see anyways

analog hearth
#

I probably won’t upgrade. I don’t need more than eight cores atm

stoic island
#

Even if it's just efficiency upgrade on Zen 2, it's like the upgrade from Zen to Zen+

old hearth
#

So for light streaming and mostly gaming, would you all say 3900x or 10900k

stoic island
#

same platform

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If you're waiting for 3080

#

might as well wait for intel 11th gen and AMD 4th gen

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:PPP

cold sorrel
#

I was planning to go for Ryzen 5 3600. My old desktop was a Win XP machine, so it's a dinosaur. I haven't actively used it in forever.

stoic island
#

prob 10900k

#

but still wait

#

I can't imagine how good of a heater 11900k will be xD

cold sorrel
#

*is not sure it would even turn on *

old hearth
#

Ok so 10900k it is unless the prices rise again above 600

stoic island
#

prob

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wait and see

#

when you building

#

if you're waiting until RTX 3000 to build, don't worry about CPU choice yet

cold sorrel
#

I'm going back and forth on whether to buy now or wait a little longer.

old hearth
#

Mr111 the 3080 is supposed to come out this year in September

#

@stoic island

opal stratus
#

Worth waiting?

old hearth
#

yes

opal stratus
#

Damn maybe I should cancel my 2070S

stoic island
#

Yes

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and so it the rest of the stuff

#

everything releases at around the same time

opal stratus
#

All I have rn is PSU, storage, case, and cooler

#

I kinda wanna play games doe :/

cursive wharf
#

@potent prairie Well idk much of HMB but seems off that Intel wouldn't support it. I'd more expect Intel to not support it on old CPUs or smth. But no proof of that tho

lament oyster
#

Hey I have a question I’m not sure if it can be answered and not totally sure if this is the chat to ask it in but here goes nothing. Do we know a projection of how much the 2000series gpus are going to go down when the 3000 series come out?

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If any at all

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Sorry I found a better chat to ask this in

stoic island
#

no

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we never do

mossy citrus
#

@old hearth

stoic island
#

can't predict the future

mossy citrus
#

Get a better ssd and 7200rpm hdd

potent prairie
#

@potent prairie Well idk much of HMB but seems off that Intel wouldn't support it. I'd more expect Intel to not support it on old CPUs or smth. But no proof of that tho
@cursive wharf Alright, thx. I think I might have pulled that from an unreliable source. I know there is an article on Gigabyte's website that states it only works on win10 now tho

cursive wharf
#

Based on Pascal, prices barely changed despite moderately better price to perf. So idk if Turing will do much or if they'll pull Intel and sell both at MSRP

potent prairie
#

@old hearth Dunno if anyone has told you this already, but I would get a mp34 over a P1. P1 is fine, but an MP34 is a good bit better drive for not much more (QLC vs TLC and better speeds)

cursive wharf
#

Also pretty sure both have DRAM but P1 is worse cache setup or smth. That or controller. Don't remember which now

stoic island
#

Controller.

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SM2263

#

to mp34 with e12

stark quail
#

Hey so I have a i5 9400f and a gtx 1660 what would be the next upgrade

desert gulch
#

RGB

little leaf
#

@stoic island help?

#

U know why my wraith sthealth cooler on a 1600af is a pain to put on?

stoic island
#

no idea

fading acorn
#

i’m thinking about getting a 2060 super for my first pc build i’m not super experienced n quite frankly not computer savvy at all any suggestions on getting something different?

#

what is a good amount of storage to have on a 1,200$ build

errant berry
#

i got 1 tb

#

and i havent gone past 500gb

cursive wharf
#

512gb NVMe + 2tb HDD or smth

errant berry
#

also i was wondering if i would need to upgrade my processor, r5 2600, to use a 2060 super well

fading acorn
#

i have a 500 gig ssd rn

little leaf
#

@cursive wharf any Idea why a gpu might have died?

#

fans seem to work, but no video output

cursive wharf
#

Dead cap, blown out MOSFET/VRM, bad vBIOS, bad ports

little leaf
#

wdym bad vbios?

#

how would I fix that?

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I booted it with a 1060 I had

cursive wharf
#

Corrupted or incorrect vBIOS (from trying to flash random one or smth).
Would need a second GPU

little leaf
#

I do have an extra gpu

#

so what would I do?

cursive wharf
#

Idk steps as I never flashed a vBIOS before. NVflash is a console command based flash thing for Nvidia iirc

#

Believe Jayz did a video of bad vBIOS before from a dead card quite a while ago.

#

Probs 2 years ago or smth

little leaf
#

pretty old card its a 970

cursive wharf
#

Well, see if you can find much about it on internet. Whatever I say will be basically anything you'd find as I don't have any experience or actual knowledge with it

#

Will maybe get some soon as I might do a vBIOS flash on my GPU for high PL at some point

little leaf
#

do you know why it might have currupted?

#

Or do you know the signs of bad vbios?

cursive wharf
#

No. Idk how one can do that

#

Apart from the easy "I failed to install a vBIOS properly"

exotic aspen
#

Planning on starting a sleeper PC build, any hardware suggestions for low appearance and high performance?

stoic island
#

Low appearance is all about the case

#

any drab looking case without a transparent glass side panel

#

and just a good PC inside

kind fractal
#

i have a question on hooking up my H100i plat and my ll120 fans
is there a way to daisy chain the aio to the lighting node pro or what ever cause i only have one JUSB spot open

stoic island
#

You should be able to just plug the fans into a fan controller

#

but the AIO Pump and stuff I'm not sure about

dusk eagle
#

in general, should i buy my parts all at once or part-by-part when i see good deals?

stoic island
#

All at once if possible for your first build

#

if you're just swapping in a few parts, buy whenever it's cheap

stark quail
#

Hey so I have a r7 2700x and the rgb isn't changing when I try changing the color and stuff you guys know why?

stoic island
#

?

#

what rgb

#

@stark quail like on the wraith max?

stark quail
#

Yeah the stock cooler

stoic island
#

what software you using?

stark quail
#

@stoic island I found the problem I had the rgb cable connected(the one from the cooler to the mob) ig your not supposed to have it connected cuz some else is already allowing me to change the rgb

naive cloak
#

🎄

stark quail
#

sheesh im not there yet this my first build lol

naive cloak
#

looks very good so far

#

what rtx card you running

stark quail
#

2070 super

#

Are you able to do sum to the lighting on the 2070?

naive cloak
#

what change it??

stark quail
#

The lighting to the rgb

naive cloak
#

ill just check,only put my rtx in yesterday

stark quail
#

Oh dang 😂

stoic island
#

I think FE is just green LED

#

no rgb

stark quail
#

Are you able to make it brighter?

naive cloak
#

all the fe versions are locked on green,but the rgb is in there

#

just watched a youtube video and they put a evga base on the fe top and the colours worked

#

pink,red,orange and i think blue i could see

#

i think they will skip the 2000 series and put rgb on the 3000 series

#

@stark quail @stoic island look at what i found out

stoic island
#

what

#

evga base?

#

what

stark quail
#

What's a good temp for a PC ?

stoic island
#

for cpu or gpu

#

for idle or under load

stark quail
#

Idle and under load

#

For CPU and gpu

stoic island
#

deviates a bit between room temp, and aio/air but

#

usually 40c is good idle temp for cpu and 50c gpu

stark quail
#

Sheesh im at high 50s

#

Idle but only 2 fans

stoic island
#

and under lord I think 50-60c is about good

#

70 is decent

#

80 is high but not dangerous

#

90 be iffy

stark quail
#

Oh okay

#

I have a pack of 5 fans coming in tomorrow how much do you think it's going to help in total it's gonna be 6 fans

naive cloak
#

they stuck 2 cards together just to prove the rgb is there on the fe cards

#

@stoic island @stark quail look at the video if you have time,skip it forward a bit

stoic island
#

oh

#

you meant they took the FE heatsink and slapped it on a evga pcb

naive cloak
#

fe top,lol

#

need to get nvidia to work on some drivers because you can change the gtx versions

stark quail
#

Wdym?

lament oyster
#

Hey could anyone who can help me with my pc part picker list dm me please? Thanks

vital warren
#

just throw it in here so you get multiple peoples feedback

latent storm
#

does anyone here have any experience with the cablemod vertical gpu mount

waxen finch
#

I need y’all opinion

stoic island
lament oyster
stoic island
lament oyster
#

Ah ok

stoic island
#

GPU is placeholder for 3000

lament oyster
#

Ah okay well I like the parts man! Have fun building

#

Hey what’s founders edition? I’m trying to learn all I can about PCs lol

#

@stoic island

stoic island
#

Reference card

#

Nvidia's design

lament oyster
#

Oah ye is see

#

It’s like the smaller fans and silver?

stoic island
#

?

#

It's basically just a standard dual fan design

lament oyster
#

Oah my bad

stoic island
#

Some fancy stuff packed in but yea

robust plover
#

Do you think a 430w psu will be able to power a 1050ti 2 fans 2 case fans and a cpu cooler and a keyboard and mouse

stoic island
#

What CPU

fast dust
#

^

stoic island
#

CPU GPU all that really matters

robust plover
#

I3 9100f

fast dust
#

If it’s a lower-end to mid-range it’ll be fine. If it’s an overclocked 10900k...

stoic island
#

Other stuff draws like 5w each

fast dust
#

Yes that will be fine @robust plover

#

But it better not be a thermaltake smart

lament oyster
#

If u put them into pc part picker it will tell what wattage it will need

stoic island
#

It's fine then

robust plover
#

It isn't and are they bad

fast dust
#

TT smart bad

stoic island
#

Tt smart are just bad

fast dust
#

Is it a Corsair CX green label?

stoic island
#

Aparently they have defects, and often catastrophic defects

#

Are old CX -30w?

robust plover
#

I'm glad I didn't pick it

fast dust
#

@stoic island only the 430w. Then there’s 500w 600w etc

stoic island
#

Because I thought they were -50w

#

Huh

fast dust
#

Newer CX series is -50

stoic island
#

Looked it up it was cxm green label with -50w

robust plover
#

Is apevia a good company

fast dust
#

For power supplies? No

stoic island
#

^

fast dust
#

Not usually

robust plover
#

Ok

fast dust
#

And model > brand

stoic island
#

Raidmax

#

Ye

spiral zealot
#

i use apevia fans, but that's about all i'd get from them lol

stoic island
#

Model > Brand
But there are averages

deep skiff
#

anything thats worth more than $20 no

fast dust
#

Check them pins for PSU tier list. Get tier B minimum for your build @robust plover

deep skiff
#

pretty hard to mess up a fan so i think thats fine

stoic island
#

B+ easy imo

#

Pure power 11 and neo eco Zen 600w were both in stock at like 80$

fast dust
#

450BR or S12III

#

Like <$60

stoic island
#

I checked half an hour ago

robust plover
#

Is evga for psu good

stoic island
#

@fast dust br 450 wasn't in stock

spiral zealot
#

BR 450 = 👍

stoic island
#

Depends on model lol

fast dust
#

Hmgrrrrr

stoic island
#

W1? No. P2? Hell yea

fast dust
#

N1 even more no

stoic island
#

Yea

fast dust
#

I’ve used W1 twice...

#

:P

stoic island
#

How long did it last

fast dust
#

Still going strong

stoic island
#

Just curious

fast dust
#

In super low cost builds

swift rain
#

anyone here know anything abt pcs and deals and wants to help a noob write a list on pc part picker with a budget

spiral zealot
#

W1 not great but N1 = avoid at all costs

fast dust
#

One $200 and one $280

stoic island
#

Yes

robust plover
#

Its a 450 br

swift rain
#

mr1111 r u talking to me?

spiral zealot
#

450 BR is good

#

i just sold a PC with one, it's a well rated one on the LTT tier list

stoic island
#

Yes

swift rain
#

dm me pls haha

stoic island
#

Gib budget

#

People will work on it

fast dust
#

Still waiting on my $35 450BR to arrive

stoic island
#

Damn pretty good deal

fast dust
#

Yeah B-stock

stoic island
#

I could only ever find 450 br at like 60$

spiral zealot
#

even MSRP is not bad for it, $49.99

fast dust
#

Posted it in tech deals when it was in stock

stoic island
#

Even b stock

swift rain
#

oh okay

#

budget around 1k no more than 1.1k

#

need gaming and school work and drawing

stoic island
#

1k including monitor or no

robust plover
#

intel cpus dont have pins

swift rain
#

no

#

just pure pc

deep skiff
#

yes

stoic island
#

@robust plover but Intel motherboards do

mortal rampart
#

Okay

deep skiff
#

:v

mortal rampart
#

I gotchu

swift rain
#

doesnt ryzen have many threads or something

mortal rampart
#

Pure performance 😈

#

Yes

swift rain
#

im clueless dont plame me

#

flame*

mortal rampart
#

Ryzen has the threads

#

I gotchu don't worry

#

Brb

robust plover
#

Oh so do you just it on top and push it down and that's it

swift rain
#

bettt

#

alos whens the best time to buy parts

robust plover
#

Put it on top

swift rain
#

online*

#

cyber monday?

#

and instore maybe black friday?

stoic island
#

Wait for black friday

#

New parts be releasing sometime soon

swift rain
#

oo im poor porr tho

stoic island
#

Rn we can give you what is good rn

swift rain
#

when new parts come out doesnt price for old drop?

stoic island
#

But when new stuff comes

#

What is good changes

swift rain
#

oo fair

#

im fine rn i just want a decent pc before the new year

#

mayde as a christmas gift or something

stoic island
#

So rn we can just give you a baseline of what you can get

swift rain
#

also rgb isnt that important

stoic island
#

Cyber Monday best time to buy imo

swift rain
#

ah does like micro center have black friday deals?

#

cuz i live rly close to one

stoic island
#

Micro center likely

swift rain
#

oo nicee

cursive wharf
#

look at intel. Even when new CPUs come out their old stuff stays the same price, 10900k and 9900k are same price last I checked, yet vastly different perf

robust plover
#

I'm going to build for the first time how hard is it

swift rain
#

pretty hard i assume

stoic island
#

Indeed

cursive wharf
#

kinda same happened to pascal when turing came out

mortal rampart
#

You need rgb?

swift rain
#

nah idc

stoic island
#

I'll make it in a bit

swift rain
#

its good but dont aim for it

#

okay

robust plover
#

I hate rgb

stoic island
#

Gotta clean something up

swift rain
#

its 2 am

mortal rampart
#

Nah it's not hard at all Lmao

swift rain
#

so ill see it tmrw

stoic island
#

Other people will make list

swift rain
#

or dm the link cuz i might sleep soon

#

super late haha

stoic island
#

Heh 1am here

swift rain
#

oo u live close then

deep skiff
#

yuh

mortal rampart
#

You want pure performance??

deep skiff
#

a lot of people here are est afaik

swift rain
#

you in unn like central america region?

stoic island
#

Most ppl here are American

swift rain
#

ye i can imagine

#

what state

#

lets take turns lmfao

mortal rampart
#

TX

swift rain
#

MA

mortal rampart
#

South TX

stoic island
#

Il

deep skiff
#

oh

swift rain
#

illinois?

spiral zealot
#

everywhere and nowhere

stoic island
#

Ye

swift rain
#

oo nice

mortal rampart
#

The storm goin crazy rn

#

Water

swift rain
#

its mad hot rn

mortal rampart
#

Pure performance or what?

spiral zealot
#

also i'm in california

stoic island
#

It's a nice temp here rn

#

Warm-hot

swift rain
#

uhh i want to do digital art and school work on it?

stoic island
#

Pure perf

deep skiff
#

yea a little hot in the afternoons but its a nice summer

stoic island
#

Dew it

swift rain
#

i dont think that changes much does it

stoic island
#

I'll make the list in like 3 min

swift rain
#

nuclear u live in MA too?

mortal rampart
#

Ok

deep skiff
#

no i live in ohio

swift rain
#

o

#

ma is ass

#

hot in summer freezing in winter

deep skiff
#

ya thats us but without corn fields

swift rain
#

i only own short sleeves and hoodies -.-

#

hahaha we have colleges and libraries

#

can i copy a ton on components into this chat? or is that not alowed

stoic island
#

Don't spam the chat but prob allowed

#

Use pcpp

swift rain
#

o okay the

stoic island
deep skiff
#

ya the bot might delete it if u send it all at once

stoic island
#

Don't do https if you use link

swift rain
#

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor
MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard
Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory
Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
MSI GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X Video Card
NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case
EVGA BQ 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply

#

heres a small list

stoic island
#

Icky

swift rain
#

thats like 940

stoic island
#

Team ram

#

We can do better

swift rain
#

critisizemy friends work lol

stoic island
#

Hehe sorry

swift rain
#

nah idc

#

hes not too tech savy either

deep skiff
#

lowkey kinda looks like a nzxt prebuilt with those choices

stoic island
#

Haven't looked at prices really today

#

Ikr lmao

#

@deep skiff you know how BLD uses team Vulcan ram

swift rain
#

lmao nzxt not bad price tbh if ur lazy

deep skiff
#

ik they use that ram and think they use that mobo

stoic island
#

Ye lol

swift rain
#

0 clue what people talka bt in this chat lmfao

stoic island
#

Nzxt not bad price
Pretty bad customer support tho

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According to GN

swift rain
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oo

little osprey
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Any good $1500 builds

swift rain
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1660 i saw a prebuilt at walmsrt for 700 with that

stoic island
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Actually

swift rain
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yea but it was onsale

stoic island
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I think I have 1000$ 1500$ builds from 2 days ago

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Lemme check

swift rain
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i think it was i buy power

mortal rampart
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Bruh

swift rain
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not entirely sure

mortal rampart
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I'm almost done hol up

swift rain
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i didnt go for a pc, i went for groceries

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lmao

mortal rampart
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How much space u need?

swift rain
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idk how much i need lmaoo

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i have like 1 tb on currecnt computer

mortal rampart
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3tb fine?

swift rain
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god damn yes

mortal rampart
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Ok

swift rain
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i have 2 free tb rn

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i think i used 1tb

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*.6 tb

stoic island
swift rain
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tyty

stoic island
swift rain
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1400 -.- rip wallet

stoic island
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1500$ and 1000$ builds

swift rain
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ah

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i was finna sya i dont need 2080 super

stoic island
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@little osprey wanted a 1500$ build

swift rain
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ah

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wait do i need 2 drives

stoic island
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It's good to have

swift rain
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what does it do tho

stoic island
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One drive to boot off and one to store stuff

spiral zealot
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^

cursive wharf
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beep boop MWE OOS

spiral zealot
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i use a smaller ssd boot drive, and a big honkin HDD for storage

stoic island
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2tb SSD is expensive, and just a 2tb HDD is slow

mortal rampart
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Ya but if you don't plan on using the whole ssd then you'd be fine with 1tb

stoic island
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Beep boop example list

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It's meant to be edited when 3000 comes

deep skiff
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😳 best buy - 1
mr1 - 0

stoic island
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Anyways @swift rain td500 mesh be pretty rgb case with good airflow at a good price :D

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Also that's lists I pulled from 2 days ago

swift rain
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okay tyy

stoic island
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Slap in pure power 11 or NE Zen for buying today

swift rain
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then comes the problem of how to build it XD

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rip

stoic island
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Easy

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Watch some YouTube

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That's about enough for you to get started

swift rain
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i was watching like a bit wit one

stoic island
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Ask questions here if anything gets borked

swift rain
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and he was like

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if one this gets fricked your like wires are fked

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no exactally easing

stoic island
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Heh

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If you get quality parts

swift rain
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ill wait for like some sales and crap

stoic island
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The only thing that's easy to damage is CPU pins

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Everything else is kinda hard to mess up

swift rain
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lets hope ur right lmao

spiral zealot
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it's legit easy

stoic island
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Hey I'm the guy who tried to plug my GPU into the motherboard PCB okay

mortal rampart
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Wait I'm almost done

spiral zealot
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it's basically like a $1000 lego set, everything snaps together pretty easily

stoic island
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Yea

mortal rampart
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I'm on my phone steveconfused

swift rain
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fair i loved legos

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rly overpriced tho

spiral zealot
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just like pc hardware these days!

stoic island
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Reusability :D

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Hehe

swift rain
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ha

stoic island
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I borked my PC a few times, is okay now

swift rain
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i mean ill rly only get like 3 good years out of this

stoic island
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Experience is the best way to know stuff

swift rain
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cuz im bouta graduate highschool yk no pc in college

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rip

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scam 😦

stoic island
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??

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What college doesn't allow pc

swift rain
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no use

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i have a mac

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and i cant lug a pc into lectures

spiral zealot
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if you have a closet for a dorm room, pc = precious space

stoic island
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In your dorm room

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Yea

swift rain
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gonna get yoinked

stoic island
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?

deep skiff
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or hide a sff build

swift rain
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my sister got her mac finessed

stoic island
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Lock your door

swift rain
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dorm mates