#building-and-recc-chat

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vital warren
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i was going to get a 2070 super as well but i'm waiting for the 3000 series just to see what my options are in my price range

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my 1060 will hold me over till then ig

errant berry
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yea i need an upgrade too

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i was impatient with my build so it isnt as great as it should be

vital warren
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im trying to be patient w mine

errant berry
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you should

vital warren
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only thing i ordered so far was my case

red sigil
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can alpenfohn wing boost 3 fans connect to my nzxt smart device 2?

night iron
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Thanks for the recommendation on the phanteks p300a @inland atlas

little osprey
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Anyone know of a good build for about $1500?

errant berry
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here @little osprey

cold sorrel
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I got my notification tonight my monitor should be shipping soon. I'd been sitting on the backorder list since Monday.
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824475047?Item=N82E16824475047

little osprey
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Thank you @errant berry

errant berry
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yup

little osprey
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How can I post my build link?

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Up to u @little osprey

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At least I think 😂

errant berry
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im sure you would just send the link lol

little osprey
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It’s keeps on deleting it

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Then I get a message saying I’m not allowed to post links

errant berry
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really

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i posted one just a couple hours ago lol

little osprey
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Dm me the link and I'll try posting it

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@little osprey

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Nope

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Doesn't let me post links

fast dust
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@little osprey @little osprey you gotta be lvl 3 mee6 to post links or images

little osprey
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I see

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Well thank for the info 😂

clear pewter
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Hey

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I need some advice

errant berry
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hm

fast dust
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@little osprey @little osprey DM me the link and I’ll post it for you

little osprey
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Ok

fast dust
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Since I’m lvl 37 :P

clear pewter
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Rx 5700XT red devil for $410, STRIX 5700xt for $410, or ASRock for $380

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Which should I buy

fast dust
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I’ve heard strix has not great cooling

clear pewter
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Aesthetics and acoustics have a say

errant berry
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ok

fast dust
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And powercolor is generally pretty good

deep skiff
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the strix is one of the worst 5700 xt's for value and pretty bad for cooling

fast dust
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What he said

little osprey
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Damn

fast dust
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It looks hawt but in reality it isn’t

little osprey
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What's the difference between rtx 2080 super and rtx 2080 ti? (I'm new to pc building)

fast dust
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Keep that in mind when looking for a BF/GF kids. They may be attractive on the outside but actually not on the inside

little osprey
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Wtf 😂

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I mean 💯

jagged ember
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Build chat related, yes

fast dust
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Strix 5700 XT relates to choosing a lover

red sigil
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is it smart to put a kraken z63 in my h510i nzxt case?

jagged ember
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Related to building your life

clear pewter
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I mean

fast dust
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@little osprey 2080 ti has better performance

clear pewter
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It's priced the same as a red devil

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So that's the thing

little osprey
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I see

fast dust
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and bigger price tag

clear pewter
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Red devil vs strix

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Red devil?

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Aesthetics are a factor

deep skiff
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usually the strix cards are good cooling but asus isnt really the best for amd cards

fast dust
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@little osprey for future reference TI is usually a bit better than Super

clear pewter
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And syncing everything through ICUE sounds sweet

jagged ember
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I personally don't think just a closed loop is worth it

little osprey
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So more for like future proofing?

fast dust
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@clear pewter red devil

jagged ember
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Thermal performance wise air coolers are on par or better

fast dust
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More for like just better performance

little osprey
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Oh

clear pewter
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I know how to overclock and everything tho

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I'm just playing devil's advocate

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To see if that helps

jagged ember
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I'd just go for an air cooler to save on $$ unless you don't like how they look @red sigil

clear pewter
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I care about aesthetics a bit

little osprey
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How good is an rtx 2070 super compared to an rtx 2060?

deep skiff
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10 better

red sigil
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does it matter if it is an intake or exhaust fan?

fast dust
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Much better

jagged ember
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Ha, not even a question

red sigil
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@jagged ember

jagged ember
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It's better, period.

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Eehh

errant berry
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he was asking how much better lol

jagged ember
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Intake means the air coming in is slightly warmer

errant berry
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we know its better😂

fast dust
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he was asking how much better lol

10 better

jagged ember
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Yes

errant berry
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well

little osprey
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10x better im assuming?

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😂

errant berry
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there is your answer

fast dust
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Nah not 10x

deep skiff
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no just 10

fast dust
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Just 10

deep skiff
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70-60=10

errant berry
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with all the specs

little osprey
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Oh

errant berry
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add 10

jagged ember
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Remember, a 2070s is basically a 2080

errant berry
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is it?

little osprey
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Well I'm dumb

jagged ember
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Soo, there's your answer

little osprey
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😂😂

errant berry
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didnt even know that

fast dust
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It’s pretty close to 2080

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And much better value

jagged ember
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Just oc it and you'll get there

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@red sigil from what I understand intake vs exhaust isn't much of a difference, unless your cpu pumps out a lot of heat

deep skiff
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i am the best giver of tech tips

jagged ember
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Tecc tip

fast dust
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Nacho tecc tipp

jagged ember
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U rite

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It's not mine

fast dust
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Nacho tecc tip X Wideus tecc tip

jagged ember
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Maybe I should be wideus

fast dust
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Wideus

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I am your widest fan

jagged ember
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I just built a wide cardboard box pc case

fast dust
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Wideus when will the wide 2080 ti with 5 fans be released

jagged ember
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Keep up with the tecc news, friend

fast dust
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Yes Wideus thank you Wideus

jagged ember
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It's only going to come with oem built machines like the ryzen 400 series chips

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Only oem built PCs will support the absolute girth

fast dust
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🥵

jagged ember
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I expect cooling performance to be immense

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It's gonna move so much air it'll be an intake of it's own

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You know what else is immense? This segway to our sponsor

white osprey
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had a question about usb wifi

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does it work well?

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or well enough?

sand falcon
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Avoid it if at all possible

white osprey
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reasons y?

sand falcon
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It's slow, laggy, and unstable

white osprey
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all usb wifis?

sand falcon
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There are some good ones, but they cost more than a decent pcie card

white osprey
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so only decent wifi is pcie?

fast dust
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Uh, I use USB WiFi and it works totally fine

white osprey
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its for my little niece, i think she'll just be playing roblox or something

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but i dont want it to be unplayable

sand falcon
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It's alright, but totally worth the 10 extra dollars to get pcie

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It mostly depends what usb card. You can get a good one, but those are the same price as pcie

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My usb wifi would drop every 10 minutes or so and require me to restart it

white osprey
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do you know if the 3 dollar windows 10 cards on ebay are legit

sand falcon
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Some are, some aren't

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Basically, if it looks like those "spin to win a free ipad" pop up ads, avoid it

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If it just looks like a normal ebay item, should be fine

white osprey
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not a single one has reviews on the seller

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but 1 has reviews on the card itself

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all 5 star

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possible bots?

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well if i get scammed its only 3 bucks i guess

sand falcon
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Possible. Tomie has a site that we've used a few times. It's a bit more expensive, but it seems pretty reliable

silk estuary
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I used softwarecodes

sand falcon
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@strong cliff Cable management is basically just getting all your cables and wires to run neatly and out of the way. What you have in your pic is decent, but there are some places you could improve it

strong cliff
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@sand falcon thank you bobert

stoic island
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Bobert

sand falcon
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That;s a first

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There we go

strong cliff
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Yes

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Bobert

desert gulch
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Should a hyper 212 work for a 3600?

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Wanna oc but don't want my cpu to catch on fire

stoic island
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Hyper 212 overpriced

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:ppp

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Gammaxx 400 ftw

desert gulch
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How much is that?

stoic island
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26$ iirc

desert gulch
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Ok cool

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What temps would that drop me to?

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I have a case with good airflow

stoic island
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Can't predict that stuff :p

lethal gale
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VP249QGR or PX247?

little osprey
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Cousin sent me this list, improve on it for him

sand falcon
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What will it be used for?

tepid basalt
sand falcon
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What will it be used for

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@little osprey

tepid basalt
little osprey
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@sand falcon mostly gaming and streaming, a bit of recording and editing too

sand falcon
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Okay

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There's a lot to change here

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Is the ram for looks?

little osprey
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I guess

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He didn't give me much context about the parts

tepid basalt
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budget limit?

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bc it looks like there's alot of misclick here

little osprey
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$1500 USD

sand falcon
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Okee then

little osprey
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He's getting into twitch and needed a new setup from his old i3

sand falcon
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This case comes with no fans 😦

little osprey
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It doesn't?

sand falcon
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Nope

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Not that I can see

little osprey
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I'll tack some on

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I have a few spare green ones from a build a few years ago, I could give him those

sand falcon
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He has some fans on the list

little osprey
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RIP Swamp Monster, 2016-2018

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He does?

vital warren
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for the same price you could go for a td 500 mesh and save a bit on fans

sand falcon
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Yup

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I'll keep the case. It's a personal preference thing

little osprey
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Would an Athlon 3000 be able to update the BIOS on the motherboard?

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I have 2 I bought on a whim off of eBay when someone was listing 2 open box ones for $45

sand falcon
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The motherboard should be fine already

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It's also a gigabyte, so even if it's not you can update it without a CPU installed

little osprey
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I was not aware of that feature

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How would one go about doing that?

sand falcon
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You plug in a usb drive with the bios on it and press the button

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It should come with the right bios preinstalled though

little osprey
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It says on the pcpartpicker list you put in the chat it might need a BIOS update

sand falcon
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Yeah

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You can ignore pcpp

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It won't

little osprey
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Ok

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Thank

sand falcon
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np

opal stratus
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Can anyone recommend a good mITX AM4 motherboard?

sand falcon
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I'd try one of the gigabyte ones

spiral zealot
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i'm using an ASRock B450 mITX board and it's been fine for me since October

opal stratus
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I wanna get the gigabyte X570 board but it’s out of stock at micro center 😦

manic sinew
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what about the ASUS ROG Strix B550-I is it worth the money?

mortal rampart
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How much is it?

manic sinew
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230 on newegg

mortal rampart
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Lmao no

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Just but an x570

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*buy

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Never buy a b550

opal stratus
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Looking for mITX tho :/

manic sinew
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the asus rog strix x570-I

analog hearth
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X570-P from Asus is also good if you’re limited on money

drifting timber
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anyone know about x570 meg ace

little osprey
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🤔

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Is it like this?

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Or this?

fast dust
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Lol that’s a pretty common gif here

little osprey
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🤯

arctic jungle
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itx is so bad but so good

opal stratus
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How’s it bad?

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People were telling me to just go micro ATX, am starting to reconsider

stark bramble
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b550s are perfectly fine ngl

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micro atx

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nothing wrong with it

analog hearth
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@vestal cove it’s an IKEA Malm and the extra desk on the left of it is a Dakota I got from a store called At Home

vestal cove
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Oh ok

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Your evga gpu has no backplate😣 just like mine

knotty ruin
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Can anyone Msg me? I need some help involving my build

arctic jungle
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@knotty ruin we can speak here, what's up?

knotty ruin
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So amazon cancelled my order and locked my acct last week due to me putting a big order for my build, well my Motherboard, CPU, Gcard, case, and psu is in and I’m trying to find the right 32 gig ram for it putting everything I have on PC part picker rn for u

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I can’t tell what Ram would fit it or not and I cannot find a good OS system, it all looks the same to me

arctic jungle
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uh

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windows 10

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or linux

knotty ruin
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Windows 10

arctic jungle
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so

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get windows 10

knotty ruin
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Yeah I know I want windows 10 but I’m browsing everything and just can’t tell the different ones apart I see bad reviews on a lot of them I need to get the USB version

analog hearth
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@vestal cove just going for performance lol

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@buoyant flame thanks. I had to rearrange it lol

buoyant flame
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I like it

analog hearth
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Thanks :)

sullen spoke
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umm if we are talking about windows, home or pro is fine, but you can download it on a usb from microsoft website and buy a ebay activation key or something for $5

knotty ruin
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Can you send a link for that?

sullen spoke
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can't find something from ebay atm for some reason, but some people have had this work https://software-codes.com/collections/top-sale/products/windows-10-pro . note this is a activation key that will probably be sent via email. you still need a usb with at least 8gb to put windows on with the media creation tool: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 . you should only buy it when you are installing windows and entering the key. there is a chance it will not work if you don't use asap

knotty ruin
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See I went in Microsoft website and they sell it all for 139

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I’m lookin to get win 10 home

sullen spoke
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ye the retail price is ~$100 but it really is a rip off. some keys from ebay and such for cheap can work perfectly fine if you find a good seller, most people here got their keys <$5

little osprey
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Is prebuilt any good?

sullen spoke
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prebuilt is often overpriced for the hardware

little osprey
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I see

stark bramble
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i mean windows is p easy to get for free

little osprey
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Because u was thinking of buying an HP open obelisk PC for about $1500

sullen spoke
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well windows for free is technically piracy and we don't talk about that here

knotty ruin
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I don’t have a USB myself im fine with paying those but I just dk which one to get there’s so many

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I’ll need to order it on a USB anyway I don’t have a 8 gig one

stark bramble
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get the usb one

sullen spoke
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for a usb any one that is 8gb or more should work fine

stark bramble
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if u wanna buy one

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ig

sullen spoke
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i have one usb drive i use for installing os like windows, linux, etc.

still roostBOT
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Mee7#1113 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

little osprey
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Rip

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Sorry for the big link

stark bramble
knotty ruin
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I just ordered one through Microsoft website

stark bramble
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@little osprey you can build one yourself for a lot cheaper

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with better video card and ssd

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but i suppose office and mcafee are included

red sigil
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is a Noctua NH-D15S compatible with my ryzen 7 3800x

deep skiff
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Yes

red sigil
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ty!

arctic jungle
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@gaunt zinc can we have a wegg minecraft server chat 🥺

red sigil
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wait which cpu cooler is better for a ryzen 7 3800x? Noctua NH-D15 or the NH-D15S

knotty ruin
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Lol just found out when I ordered it it gave me minecraft for free but screw Microsoft Minecraft JAVA is where the big boys with big Johnson’s go

deep skiff
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D15S is the slim version of the d15 (also has a little better ram support iirc), d15 is a better performer

red sigil
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what do you mean by ram support iirc, im a noob with this

stoic island
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If you have RGB ram, go d15s

red sigil
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i have trident z royal

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so i guess i should

stoic island
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Basically any ram that's not just ecc sticks

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Go d15s

red sigil
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tysm

wary geode
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@stoic island quick question 2060 for 313 or 5600xt for 260

stoic island
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2060

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imo

red sigil
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what fans should i use as front fans in my nzxt h510i, exhaust or intake?

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also im thinking of putting noctua nf-p12 as a replacement for the two stock fans, is that a good idea?

stoic island
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h510...

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can I just say don't bother with airflow? xD

red sigil
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?

stoic island
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you're not gonna get much airflow from the front

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either way

red sigil
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yeah ik

stoic island
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the usual front to back isn't gonna work

red sigil
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i was thinking of just keeping it empty

stoic island
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keep it empty then

red sigil
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will i not lose any temp?

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i mean gain*

stoic island
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not really

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not worth spending on more fans

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just making the fans suck on the panel trying to get air through a 90 degree corner

robust plover
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Do you think two case fans will be good for a 13 9100f and a 1050 ti

red sigil
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sorry ot bother you again but do you think the noctua nf-p12 is a good replacement for the stock fans?

robust plover
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Core i3 9100f sorry

stoic island
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depends on the case

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the p12 redux fans are nice

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quiet and works

robust plover
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It's a diypc case

red sigil
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is it good for h510i?

stoic island
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fans arn't really per case

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fans are just fans

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either they're good or they're bad

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@robust plover which one

red sigil
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o ty

stark bramble
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hmm

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should i buy a new cooler for overclokcing or can i keep stock cooler

stoic island
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you could

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your choice

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depends on how much you want to spend for oc

stark bramble
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ok

robust plover
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The case is the diypc ma08 by

robust plover
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Dose anyone know anything about the msi pro b365m pro lga 1151 board?

stoic island
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icky

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can you even put 2 fans in that case

robust plover
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Yeah

spiral zealot
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it should be fine for an i3 and a 1050ti

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larger front/side intake and smaller rear exhaust will keep positive pressure

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and it comes with the front/rear fans already

analog fjord
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Im trying to build my first pc and I wanna make sure Im on the right track, Im aiming for around $1k for everything.

Cpu: AMD Ryzen 5 3600

Moba: Asus TUF Gaming X570-plus (wifi) ATX AM4

Ram: G.Skill Ripjaws V series 16 gb (2 x 8 gb) DDR4 3200 CL16

Storage: Sabrent Rocket Q 1 tb M.2-2280 NVME

Gpu: EVGA Geforce Rtx 2060 super 8 gb SC Black Gaming

Psu: Rosewill 600 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX

If theres anything im missing please let me know, do I need a cpu cooler? I used Pc part picker for this and it seems fine but I do get a comparability note saying the Moba has an additional 4-pin atx power connector but my psu does not, im not sure what that means.

im also having a hard time finding a Case that is at Max 16 inches tall to fit my desk and works with this setup..

spiral zealot
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the motherboard warning is just because that board has an extra power connector for people doing things like liquid nitrogen overclocking, where the board is going to need to pull a TON of power

analog fjord
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Oh ok thx for that tip

spiral zealot
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but for the normal user, it won't matter, you'll just need the normal power connectors, which your PSU will have

analog fjord
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Im waiting for it to restock on newegg, it was 79.99 a day ago and gone the next... peepoSadSip

cursive wharf
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@analog fjord get a cheaper mobo, get 3600CL16 RAM, get an SSD with a better cache setup/NAND type like Team MP34, if you arent going to stream/record get the 5700XT, probs get a better PSU. Lot of the cheap Rosewill PSUs are at best meh.

analog fjord
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Thanks for your reply, i dont know much about mobas to know whats cheap and good, if you have any suggestions pls enlighten me. Ill look into the ssd, and im going to strictly play games on it, 5700XT?
And my knowledge is the same with psus... I thought getting a 600 watt one wiuld be good for future use.

potent prairie
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Rocket Q is also QLC

analog fjord
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QLC?

potent prairie
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Bits per cell, SLC (1) > MLC (2) > TLC (3) > QLC (4)
TLC is the norm

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QLC is slower and less durable

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I'd look at a B550 board

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or B450 if you don't care about PCLe 4.0 for your SSDs

analog fjord
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Ok thx

little osprey
potent prairie
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Nice

cursive wharf
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wireless keyboard but not mouse?

little osprey
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its has a usb cable

potent prairie
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Wireless keyboards are so pointless for a desktop imo, unless you are gaming on a couch or something

little osprey
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the problem is that all the other Cherry MX Reds

potent prairie
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Like you don't move it

little osprey
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are out of my budget

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i got this one so i can can connect it with a usb still

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if i couldn't

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i would have not got it

potent prairie
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Fair ig

little osprey
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its the cheapest in CAD

cursive wharf
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just dont focus on Corsair tbh. lots of other options and Corsair is just kinda overpriced

little osprey
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i didn't

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but this was the cheapest cherry mx red i could find

cursive wharf
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dont focus on mx

little osprey
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i am still looking but if i dont find any other ones

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i will go with this

cursive wharf
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still many different branded switches

little osprey
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what is a switch like the cherry mx red

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gateron red ?

cursive wharf
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Gateron, Outemu, Kailh, etc
What you're specifically looking for is Linear switches

little osprey
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yea i am specifically looking for linear switches

cursive wharf
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which there are lots. probs like 10 brands for linear, each brand having on average probs 2+ linear switches

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Im not a keyboard warrior so dont know too much about it

little osprey
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ok

soft bison
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That has outemu red switches and I have the same keyboard in white

little osprey
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ok

wary tundra
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@vestal cove ryzen 4000 is going to be on am4 still

arctic jungle
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purple switches are best

wary tundra
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Don't quote me but I think Zen 3 is compatible with b450, x470, b550, x570

stoic island
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that's what AMD promised

arctic jungle
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@wary tundra I think they said that it's only for x570 and b550 right?

spring jacinth
wary geode
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would you guys watch me make a 3600 and 2060 pc build

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like live stream

spiral zealot
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Zen 3 will only be compatible with B450/X470 boards if the manufacturers decide they can make the necessary BIOS changes

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AMD will provide them the code to do it

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but it's up to them to implement it

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because different boards have different BIOS capacities and they might have to sacrifice support of older chips to add Zen 3, etc, etc

wary tundra
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^ that is probably right

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Better explanation

spiral zealot
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gamersnexus had a good video that explains it really well, and that's where i got my info from

next tangle
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does the asus rog strix b450-f motherboard support pcie 4.0/can I update the bios to make it support it?

spiral zealot
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it does not, and you cannot iirc. it's not just a bios support thing, the actual chipset needs to support it, and B450 doesn't

little osprey
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The thing that holds the CPU fan and that's under the motherboard

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Is that supposed to be in a certain way

wanton crystal
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My build is sooo close! Just got a rysen 9 3900x brand new for 330. Pretty stoked about it. Feel like it was a superb deal

silk estuary
#

bruh

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That's what I got my r7 3800x for

#

Lucky SOB

hollow bridge
#

Anyone know a good build for under 5k

little osprey
#

ryzen 3950x

#

2080ti

hollow bridge
#

ok

#

Also

#

how does water cooling work

#

isn’t it dangerous

slender owl
#

Not if done properly

#

There’s always a risk that a leak will pop up though

spiral zealot
#

that's partially why all-in-one coolers exist, to minimize the risk of encountering problems by giving you a fully sealed system off the shelf.

#

not to say they're flawless, but the risks are usually lower than building a loop yourself

wary tundra
#

custom loops 😋

red sigil
#

can a Noctua NH-D15S fit a ryzen 7 3800x in a nzxt h510i case?

little osprey
#

How do I update my bios

cold sorrel
#

Ryzen 3600 is going for about 159 USD on Newegg right now.

little osprey
#

Ryzen 5?

#

Or

fast dust
#

Yes Ryzen 5 3600

spiral zealot
#

@little osprey it hasn't changed much, you need the same basics as now, but things like networking were usually done through expansion cards, both ethernet and dialup. Video cards were external as well, but AGP was the format at the time

#

hard drive control and all that was IDE, and was handled on the motherboard

#

Yeah, PCI/AGP took the lead in the early 90's

#

so ISA wasn't used as much

#

PCI Express was.

#

Not OG PCI.

#

PCI Express was...2004 iirc.

#

But PCI was 1992-1993ish.

#

I'm not OLD, but I did build my first PC in general in like...1992 at the age of 8.

#

I remember all of this stuff, heh.

#

For an era-appropriate gaming machine you'll need the usual stuff, CPU/MB/RAM/PSU/GPU, but you'll also need expansion cards for networking and sound.

#

Sound cards were a thing back then.

#

Late 90s was when integrated audio started to show up, but sound cards were still popular if you wanted higher quality audio.

#

I used to use a sound card with a breakout box that sat on my desk.

#

And had all my inputs and controls on it.

#

Yep.

#

1998 though, you're probably looking at a Pentium II, 300-400mhz. or a K6-2 450 if you were an AMD user (like I was).

#

Video cards in that era were still just on the verge of being able to 3d game. I think 98 was like, RIVA TNT era

#

ATI did have the Rage II out in the late 90s though.

#

I know the Pentium II 300 was around in 98, I think the 400 also came out that year as well.

#

The voodoo 1 came out in 96?

#

The Riva 128 was 1997, I remember that because my brother got one that year.

#

Voodoo 2 was 98 for sure, and that was when SLI first came out.

#

Voodoo Banshee is what I had, and it came out in 98

#

paired with my K6-2

#

The Banshee is a good one if you can find it, it doesn't require a separate 2d card.

#

It handles both itself.

#

No, AMD had the K6 series and Intel had the Pentium II, and that was it pretty much.

#

It's a Voodoo 2 with 2d support, but with one texture unit disabled, so it didn't cannibalize sales on the V2.

#

Are you hard set to 1998 releases?

#

Because the first GeForce, the 256, came out in 99.

#

And that blew EVERYTHING out of the water.

#

there were major innovations in the span of a few years in PC land at that time.

#

For simplicity sake, I'd recommend the Banshee if you can find one, specifically because it will handle both 2d and 3d without needing separate cards.

#

As per wikipedia "A single-chip solution, the Banshee was a combination of a 2D video card and partial (only one texture mapping unit) Voodoo2 3D hardware. Due to the missing second TMU, in 3D scenes which used multiple textures per polygon, the Voodoo2 was significantly faster. However, in scenes dominated by single-textured polygons, the Banshee could match or exceed the Voodoo2 due to its higher clock speed and resulting greater pixel fillrate. While it was not as popular as Voodoo Graphics or Voodoo2, the Banshee sold in respectable numbers."

#

If you really want to go beast mode, you can go with the separate 2d/3d cards, but that's up to you.

#

I'd look at a Pentium II 450 probably, paired with a Banshee, and like 64MB RAM.

#

You can even get Corsair ram from that era.

#

PC100 SDRAM

#

I think those boards could handle up to 128 or even 256MB of ram though.

#

They're both DRAM, SDRAM is just single data rate, vs DDR, which is double data rate.

#

They were but they were really expensive, CDROM was still the leading format

#

Picking up a solid 32x CDROM drive was pretty standard.

#

Motherboard wise, fi you can find an ASUS P2B, that's what I'd recommend for a Pentium II, but really anything on the 440BX chipset should be solid.

#

Creative was the big one with the Sound Blaster, but Turtle Beach made them as well, if memory serves.

#

Sound Blaster was pretty much the industry standard though.

#

If you can find a Sound Blaster PCI64 or PCI128, that will handle it. Or, a Sound Blaster Live! card if you want to bling it up a little.

#

Yeah, 1-2GB was the average, I don't remember when the larger drives came out, but 4GB might have been available then.

#

Case/PSU, but if you'r elucky you can find a case that has a PSU in it already from someone's old build.

#

You might be able to, iirc, ATX boards back then used the 20 pin connector

#

ATX was the by and large leader, but micro-atx did exist back then.

#

you can usually find combo deals on ebay for old ATX chassis with like a 300W PSU already in it

#

I don't think so.

#

Make sure that you pick up IDE cables as well, you'll need different cables for hard drive/cd drive, and the floppy drives.

#

Yep. HDD/CD drives used the 40pin connector, and floppy drives use a 34pin.

#

PS/2

#

Both the keyboard and mouse would use those.

#

Yeah, no. the motherboard will be color coded for the ps/2 ports usually.

#

Purple is keyboard, green is mouse.

#

No, and you can usually convert a USB to PS/2 with an adapter, but they don't all work across all devices.

#

That requires a little more research to make sure they're compatible.

#

🤘

#

Absolutely, it's good for the brain to dig up old memories like that.

#

It really makes you appreciate how far PC hardware has come.

fast dust
#

And how fast it’s increased in performance

digital pecan
#

@late ice What cable extentions are you using?

late ice
#

@digital pecan cablemods full length.

#

@digital pecan i prefer the full length sets. Much easier to manager without having to worry about the connection points being in the way. They always seemed to be whenever I used them. CableMod ModMesh Green/Black. Run about $100ish usd. Custom sets upwards of $3-400

digital pecan
#

Alright thanks! I'll check them out!

deep skiff
#

when the custom cables cost twice as much as the psu lol

late ice
#

I'd only ever recommend the bridged pcie cables.

#

If doing custom. Otherwise stick with the sets they sell. Much cheaper.

little osprey
#

How do I update my bios

spiral zealot
#

it depends on your motherboard, some have windows applications that will update, some have the ability to flash from a usb drive without booting into the os or anything

vernal ore
#

uhhh best gsync monitors that’s around 300 bucks?

karmic arch
#

hey so i have very small freezes when i play video game like the game runs fine at 150 but i have little freeze very brief, do you have any idea of what it could be ? all of my GPU drivers are up to date and its a brand new gpu ( 3 weeks old ) ( i5 9600kf + rx 5700xt )

#

any idea ?

slender owl
#

You can use g sync with free sync right?

#

Nvidia supports free sync right?

elfin burrow
#

you should be able to in most cases

desert gulch
#

Can you use freesync with gsync?

exotic bison
#

Question should I buy another fan if my case already has two fans and the CPU has a built-in cooler?

spiral zealot
#

you'll probably be fine, depends on your CPU and how much heat it pushes out, but usually as long as you have one intake and one exhaust of adequate size, it'll move enough air

exotic bison
#

My CPU is a Ryzen 5 3600x and I'm using a RTX 2070 super for my GPU if that makes any difference. Also thanks for the quick response!

deep skiff
#

what case do you have? as long as ur case isnt choked for airflow it should be fine with 2 fans

exotic bison
#

Fractal-design Meshify C

deep skiff
#

you should be fine

#

meshify c has good airflow, the stock fans should be good

unreal verge
#

anyone have source code for a new mirai

exotic bison
#

Thanks I was just a little worried because I just thought about it today and was wondering if it was enough, with this being my first pc build

spiral zealot
#

asking for malware source code is probably not a great move @unreal verge

vestal cove
#

Did someone @ me

naive cloak
#

i7 8700k , rog strix z370-h gaming mb, wd 4tb + octane memory , corsair 32gb 3000mhz , nvidia rtx 2080 ti fe, cooler master 750w power supply, nzxt case + hue+ and rgb lighting. id-cooler water cooling.

#

just changed my gpu today

final knot
#

lol i added some fans today

naive cloak
#

lol im a big ||fan||

#

@final knot my gpu was a lower than nvidia website

#

tell me about your fans you fitted

#

@vestal cove no

final knot
#

well the case came with 4 fans 3 of them being argb and the rear fan being black

#

it also came with a argb strip under the psu shroud

naive cloak
#

||everyone say *hi||

final knot
#

so what prompted me to get new fans was my dad was getting new fans for his case and was gonna have one left over because they only came in packs of 2 so he gave me one fan and i bought a pack of 2

naive cloak
#

awesome

final knot
#

its funny my fathers case is the matrexx 50 and also came with 4 argb fans

#

so we are like twinning so hard

final knot
#

i posted a pic in the proper channel lol

naive cloak
#

i have 2 rgb fans to put in my case, but i didnt realise they where 4 pin

final knot
#

oh and i bought him that case because he was rocking some serious 2008 nzxt case

#

still had 5.25 drive bays ewwwww

naive cloak
#

i bet that looked dated

final knot
#

you can see for yourself in the build-pics channel lol

naive cloak
#

i just peeked , super dated

final knot
#

yeah i'm glad i could help him get a new case

#

i told him ditch those hdds and he went and got a gen 4 m.2

#

one of these day's i'll get a m.2 i swear

#

the next thing i want to get is some dark purple sleeved cable extensions then i'll be happy

#

whoops lol

naive cloak
#

i wondered where that pic went,oops sorry

#

😆

final knot
#

nice save

#

lol

naive cloak
#

dont look at the dust

final knot
#

i am more of a pink and green or purple and green. red and green is to christmasssy

naive cloak
#

there a claus i have to do it,Yes

oak galleon
#

I have a 240hz monitor but, it has FreeSync and not GSync, so is it important enough to determine if I get an AMD or Nvidia card?

viral ore
#

It's not important enough to sway your decision in what GPU to buy

#

Besides, most freesync monitors will work with gsync

oak galleon
#

Mine only has FreeSync

#

Is there any way to use FreeSync on etc cards?

fast dust
#

Freesync gang

robust plover
#

Will rainbow six siege play good on a i3 9100f and a gtx 1050 ti

fast dust
#

Yes

#

@robust plover

robust plover
#

Ok

fallow oar
#

can someone look over my build?

desert gulch
fallow oar
#

bruh what

desert gulch
#

Don't ask to ask a question lol

#

Can you put down a link or have pcpp list components?

#

DM it to me real quick

fallow oar
#

i did

desert gulch
#

Ok

#

Are there 2070s for cheaper?

#

I think the gigabyte one is 500

fallow oar
#

idk i think

#

the asus one is just so sexy too

desert gulch
#

Ik

little osprey
#

Ryan do you think a 3 fan card will fit in that case with 2 case fans in the front?

desert gulch
#

Checking

fallow oar
#

but the asus one just sold out

#

so im gonna have to get a diff card

little osprey
#

Cpu an gpu prices will deflate soon

desert gulch
#

It'll fit

cursive wharf
#

What is this PC used for Ryan?

#

I can read, dont worry

#

hahahaha

desert gulch
#

Idk

#

I'm not making it

fallow oar
#

this is used for streaming

#

and gaming

#

i want good quality

#

hei did you see the pc

cursive wharf
#

get a worse CPU and better GPU then

fallow oar
#

i got a i9 9900k

still roostBOT
#
Jon.#5903 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

cursive wharf
#

F, gotta be PG13

fallow oar
#

my bad

#

hei did you see the build?

cursive wharf
#

so do you have everything in the build then?

fallow oar
#

what?

cursive wharf
#

have you purchased all the parts in the pcpp list you put down

fallow oar
#

no

#

im trying to figure out what i should get

cursive wharf
#

what have you purchased so far?

little leaf
#

ok don't get 9900k

fallow oar
#

none

little leaf
#

ok don't get 9900k

fallow oar
#

how come

little leaf
#

don't get aio

cursive wharf
#

better GPU comes before better CPU basically

#

also 9900k is overpriced

#

even by Intel standards

little leaf
#

no get nzxt case

#

they bad

fallow oar
#

build a build for me for 2000$

little leaf
#

don't get corsair ram

#

overpriced

fallow oar
#

2000$ budget on pc partpicker and send it to me plz

little leaf
#

ssd overpriced

fallow oar
#

bruh im paying for the pemium

#

i dont want no fufu parts

little leaf
#

Ssd is bad

#

and overpriced

fallow oar
#

bruh how

little leaf
#

bad speeds

fallow oar
#

@cursive wharf can you make me a build

#

or @desert gulch

little leaf
#

just get a 3600 and 2080s

little osprey
#

Bottleneckish

fallow oar
#

ryzen LOL

#

magine

#

never will i go through AMD again

little leaf
#

why do you think ryzen is bad lol?

fallow oar
#

i have a ryzen

#

aint it

little leaf
#

what ryzen

fallow oar
#

ryzen 7 1700

little leaf
#

yes thats an old chip

#

old ryzen was only good at workstation

fallow oar
#

they just dont compete with intel

little leaf
#

yes they do lmao

fallow oar
#

9900K is alpha

little leaf
#

no its not

#

we have an intel fan boy here

little osprey
#

Ryzen 5 3700x if they make that i think

fallow oar
#

buddy i have had only AMD chips

#

i want an intel

little leaf
#

are you doing anything besides gaming?

fallow oar
#

streaming

cursive wharf
#

just get a 3600 then

little leaf
#

lmao

#

don't go intel then

fallow oar
#

bruh

little leaf
#

this guy is berating me because he thinks amd is bad lol

fallow oar
#

do yall think im broke or something

#

i dont want this trash cpu

#

158$ lol

little osprey
#

JON BRO

little leaf
#

lmao

#

STOP

fallow oar
#

what

little leaf
#

IF YOU WANT TO STREAM

#

GO AMD

#

IF YOU WANT TO VIDEO EDIT

#

GO AMD

fallow oar
#

tell me a streamer who uses amd

#

ill wait

little leaf
#

Jesus christ

#

your beyond my help

fallow oar
#

bro that processor is so cheap

little osprey
#

Lol jons my friend and he won’t listen to me

cursive wharf
#

basically anyone that does workstation uses AMD

little osprey
#

Just because it’s cheap doesn’t mean it’s not good

fallow oar
#

i want to upgreade for the long run not for 2 weeks

cursive wharf
#

then AMD?

fallow oar
#

ninja doesnt use amd

little osprey
#

Ninja is sponsored that’s why

#

He gets everything for free

cursive wharf
#

one out of thousands of streamers

little leaf
#

this guy thinks intel is like guchi

fallow oar
#

intel is like louis

#

v

#

fire

cursive wharf
#

what monitor do you have?

fallow oar
#

144hz

#

asus

#

asus only

cursive wharf
#

why Asus?

little osprey
#

That’s my build

fallow oar
#

only good company

little osprey
#

And it works perfectly

fallow oar
#

acer trash alien ware trash

little leaf
#

asus sucks

fallow oar
#

nope

#

they are the best

#

asus rog on top

cursive wharf
#

Asus is actually quite bad. Poor colors and such comparative to others

little osprey
#

Msi sucks I realized that after I bought my gpu lowk

fallow oar
#

lol what do you use dell monitors

cursive wharf
#

MSI actually, because I have an UW-QHD display

#

not going to pay major ROG tax for slightly better quality

#

from the most budget of UW-QHD high refreshrate displays

fallow oar
#

you gotta pay the premium

#

its always worth it

cursive wharf
#

even then, LG is better

little osprey
#

Jon has money let him go big or go home at this point

fallow oar
#

bruh you probably use a dell monitor as a tv

cursive wharf
#

no, I dont need any TVs

#

I keep it simple, all on my PC

fallow oar
#

do i need 32GB?

#

of ram

little leaf
#

no

cursive wharf
#

no

fallow oar
#

16 is cool

#

3600? speed

cursive wharf
#

do you have two displays?

#

or more

fallow oar
#

yes

#

3

little leaf
#

but

#

over budget

cursive wharf
#

ROG 2080Ti is only good for VRMs

#

otherwise overpriced

fallow oar
#

i only got 2 grand

little leaf
#

ye but others are out of stock

#

I don't like look of 2080ti

#

stock

fallow oar
#

so 16gb ram 3600?

#

3600 the speed not the processor

cursive wharf
#

also why not wait until new GPUs come out?

little leaf
#

but your paying for rgb

#

without rgb

fallow oar
#

cause i have to buy my pc rn

little leaf
#

its only like 1500

fallow oar
#

i sold mine that ium using rn to my friend

#

for 1k

#

so now im adding 1k and upgrading

little leaf
#

you cant wait a little ?

cursive wharf
#

get a used RX580 for $80 USD until 3000

fallow oar
#

nah iu cant

little leaf
#

ye just get used rx 570

fallow oar
#

i dont think the new cards are gonna come out this year tbh

little leaf
#

they are

#

most likelly

fallow oar
#

with corona it got pushed back for sure

little leaf
#

don't think so

cursive wharf
#

yes, but only to a certain extent probs

#

they still plan for this year

little leaf
#

doubt full they forgo launching this year

cursive wharf
#

at the start of corna probs thought about it. But rn things are fairly stable and people more or less know what to expect now and can plan for it

#

we'd most likely hear smth by now if it was delayed

little leaf
#

stocks are going up atm

fallow oar
#

im not worried ab paying like 300$ extra rn

#

its okay

#

i will save like 300$ max if i wait

#

but its all good i dont need it

little leaf
#

what?

fallow oar
#

with the new cards coming out

#

2080 will drop fomr like 750 to 600 max

little leaf
#

the new 3080 is 20% better than 2080ti

#

if 3080 is 700 at start

#

that means 2080ti goes to like 600

fallow oar
#

theres no way it will be that cheap

little leaf
#

if the 3080 is 800-900 2080ti goes to 700

fallow oar
#

okay its fine bro im buying jnow

#

i have to

little leaf
#

sure but I very heavily advise against it

fallow oar
#

i have to tho

#

i have no choice

#

the 2070s will last a while

cursive wharf
#

you do have a choice, buy a used RX580 for $80USD

fallow oar
#

wtf is that

little leaf
#

ye

#

a decent used card

fallow oar
#

amd gpu?

little leaf
#

yes

fallow oar
#

LOL MAGINE

#

never

little leaf
#

omfg

fallow oar
#

AMD CARDS ARE SO TRASH

deep skiff
#

:v

little leaf
#

nachos help

#

he won't buy amd

deep skiff
#

1050 ti is cool too ig

fallow oar
#

im getting i9 9900K

#

and a 2070s or a 2080

little leaf
#

no don't

#

do not get 9900k

deep skiff
#

anyway im going to sleep @little leaf i believe in u

little leaf
#

I can't convince him

cursive wharf
#

"amd cards trash"
5600xt beats 2060 for cheaper
5700xt beats 2060S for same price

little leaf
#

I just can

#

tt

#

intel fan boi

fallow oar
#

im done with AMD

#

9900K is good

cursive wharf
#

you always talk about Intel as if you know them and how great they are but you dont even think about 10th gen

little leaf
#

lol

fallow oar
#

what?

little leaf
#

was gonna say that

cursive wharf
#

therefore you shouldnt really be thinking about it if you dont even know the entire product stack

#

learn about it first

fallow oar
#

wdym

cursive wharf
#

10600k, 10700k, 10900k

little leaf
#

don't buy brands

fallow oar
#

yes ik

little leaf
#

buy products

fallow oar
#

those are too high out of my price range rn

little leaf
#

no they are not lmoa

cursive wharf
#

10th gen is cheaper

fallow oar
#

and i dont have a need for a 10 core processor

little leaf
#

a 10600k and 10700k is the same price

#

sorry cheaper

cursive wharf
#

10700k is a 9900k for cheaper

fallow oar
#

i dont want an i7

little leaf
#

why

fallow oar
#

not as good as the i9

little leaf
#

omfg

cursive wharf
#

so you're buying branding then?

fallow oar
#

im not

final void
#

🤦‍♂️

little leaf
#

im so done with incompetance

fallow oar
#

i9 is better than i7 wym

little leaf
#

hei

final void
#

Not necessarily

little leaf
#

I cant

cursive wharf
#

you just compared a new i7 to an old i9

little leaf
#

please I can't

cursive wharf
#

which is better? i7 920 or i3 10350k?

fallow oar
#

so if im getting intel what should i get rn

#

^

little leaf
#

10600k

fallow oar
#

its better than the 9900K?

little leaf
#

or 10700k since streaming

silk estuary
#

Does this man even know what they're doing with a pc

little leaf
#

no

cursive wharf
#

do you have a 2080Ti/3080Ti?

#

not with a 9900k

final void
#

Thats his build

cursive wharf
#

or a 10700k

silk estuary
#

I barely knew what i was doing and I'm smarter than this person

cursive wharf
#

literally just get a 3600 and 2080Ti tho

little leaf
#

I say too much bottle neck

cursive wharf
#

not really

little leaf
#

I mean

cursive wharf
#

NVENC means no CPU usage basically

fallow oar
#

so get a 10700K ovcer a 9900K

cursive wharf
#

no, get a 10600k until you have a 2.5k budget

little leaf
#

or he could get a 10600k

fallow oar
#

i have a 2000$ budget

#

im not getting a 2080ti

cursive wharf
#

yes, therefore 10600k

#

why?

little leaf
#

why?

cursive wharf
#

you want performance

fallow oar
#

cause its too much

little leaf
#

lma

#

jesus

cursive wharf
#

it isnt, a 9900k isnt too much

fallow oar
#

out of your mind if you thinking im spending 1200 for a card

little leaf
#

hei I can't

cursive wharf
#

but you can spend 800 on a CPU+CPU cool+mobo?

little leaf
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deal with stupidity

fallow oar
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bro 2070s is like 500-600

little leaf
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and much worse

final void
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Head hurts

fallow oar
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why would i spend 600$ more for not that much of an upgrade

cursive wharf
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pro a 3600 is $160 USD

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why would you spend $650 more for not that much of an upgrade

fallow oar
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2080ti isnt that much better than a 2070s

cursive wharf
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a 9900k isnt that much better then a 3600 either

little leaf
fallow oar
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I DONT WANT AMD I DONT CARE

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gets way too hot too

final void
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Just buy a prebuilt

little leaf
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no

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no

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no

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no

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no

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no

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no

fallow oar
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never

little leaf
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no

cursive wharf
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intel gets hotter tho

little leaf
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intel is hotter

fallow oar
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not over AMD

cursive wharf
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1.5x the power consumption or smth

fallow oar
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thats what AMD is known for

little leaf
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Stupidity

fallow oar
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being hot

final void
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The graphic cards

fallow oar
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always has been

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no

final void
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Not the cpus

fallow oar
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cpus

final void
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🤦‍♂️

little leaf
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that was fx lmao

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that was more than 3 years ago

fallow oar
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yeah ik i had an fx 6300

cursive wharf
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That's what FX and Vega/Polaris was known for. Not Ryzen and Navi

fallow oar
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trash

silk estuary
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Jon

little leaf
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ok lets just not help him

silk estuary
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You don't know what you're talking about

fallow oar
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yall keep telling me amd when i told you no

final void
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hes asking for help but not open to anything

fallow oar
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im doing intel

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and thats that

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so help me with that rather than suggesting amd over and over again

silk estuary
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Just call him and idiot and move on

final void
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🥱

fallow oar
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i am open to it BUT I DONT WANT AMD

cursive wharf
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I mean I could always say 9980XE for 2k.... right?

silk estuary
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lmao

little leaf
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Lmao I am open to amd

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but

final void
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They are suggesting and ur not open to anything lmao

little leaf
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I don't want amd

fallow oar
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I SAID IM OPEN TO YOUR HELP AND SUGGESTIONS AWAY FROM AMD

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AMD EVERYTHING

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NO AMD CPU OR GPU

little leaf
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ok

digital finch
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I just build a 3600 5600xt muahahahaa

fallow oar
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okay so 10700K over a 9900K

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we got that rightr

cursive wharf
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no

little leaf
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Says he doesn't want to spend too much on things

cursive wharf
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10600k

final void
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😴

fallow oar
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why 10600K

cursive wharf
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until you have a 2.5k budget

digital finch
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Damn 2.5k just for the PC?!

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USD as well?

cursive wharf
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because you arent using 8c/16t

little leaf
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"says I won't spend 1200 on gpu" then I want to spend 850 on cpu mobo and cooler

fallow oar
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8c is so nice to have

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im streaming

cursive wharf
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therefore perf from a 10600k to 10700k is barely anything. Not to mention 10700k is a worse OCer

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and you use NVENC, never use CPU encoding

little leaf
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well hei

final void
little leaf
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I won't expect for him to oc

fallow oar
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oh okay

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i do oc

digital finch
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Took me 30 mins to figure out I had to plug my case into the mobo in order to turn everything on LOL

final void
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Then why do u want intel lmao

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If ur gonna oc

fallow oar
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wdym

silk estuary
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cuz he doesn't know what he's talking about

digital finch
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I was sweatin and ready to come on here and cry for help.

final void
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😑

fallow oar
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bruh yall want me to get an i5

silk estuary
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No we want you to get an amd

final void
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i-5s can outperform i-7s depending on which one it is

silk estuary
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But you won't listen

final void
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Lmao

cursive wharf
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well do you know how to OC core, mesh ratio, cache, RAM, setup timings for RAM, etc?

digital finch
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I will learn one day

final void
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No he doesnt

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I can tell

fallow oar
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ight im buying i9 10900K

little leaf
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DO NOT

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BUY

silk estuary
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idiot

fallow oar
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magine lol

little leaf
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A I9

fallow oar
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im not

silk estuary
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yeah you are

fallow oar
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yall makin my head hurt

final void
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just buy a prebuilt lmao