#building-and-recc-chat

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stoic island
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ye

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an example list at 1000$

little leaf
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Anyone know why the mounting brackets on a b450 gaming pro max won't come off?

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The screw reach a high point then go back down and I can't remove them

severe bloom
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The mounting screws for the standoffs?

digital pecan
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Does anyone know if the Thermaltake v200 TG supports a vertical GPU?

undone shore
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@inland ridge sorry for not responding sooner. I can do whatever

fast dust
inland ridge
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Man let me try to remember

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Good airflow cases

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Got it

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Brb

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At the end went with meshify c

undone shore
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Thanks, I like the P400a

stoic island
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not often in stock tho sadly

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TD500 mesh also good but stock is also bad

inland ridge
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Newegg have meshify on stock

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And much cheaper than amazon

little leaf
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@severe bloom no mounting bracket for coolers

fast dust
sand falcon
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That's actually not terrible

severe bloom
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@fast dust you can use a program called snipping tool to copy/paste a section of the screen in windows, just type snip into the start menu

fast dust
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Well yeah but I didn’t want to go through the process of sending the screenshot to myself

severe bloom
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you dont have to, can paste it right into discord 🙂

sand falcon
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The machine probably doesn't have discord on it

severe bloom
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ah didn't think about that dur :p

fast dust
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Yeah it’s for a PC flip. I don’t wanna log into discord on it

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Second time I ran cinebench it gave me 910 points instead of 895

cursive wharf
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@severe bloom you dont even need snipping tool, just Alt+PrtScn does active program

cold sorrel
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I'm still annoyed that right when I decided I wanted to build a new computer.... the world went nuts, prices skyrocketed and stock is unreliable

severe bloom
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If you want to get all of the program that works too

shadow mango
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pc complete wanna see pics

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setup i shouuld say

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all i need is the last rgb fan and everything is done

hallow mesa
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Hey im just wondering should I get a video card or a graphics card?

inland ridge
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Trolling?

hallow mesa
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sorry im literally brand new to PC builds, so im guessing graphics

fast dust
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They’re the same thing

still roostBOT
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Suomeen#2204 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

hallow mesa
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im sorry

fast dust
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Haha you’re good

inland ridge
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@hallow mesa let us know your budget, country and what are you planning to do with your pc? It will be for gaming only? What games are you planning to play?

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Would you need monitor, mouse and keyboard

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?

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Do you care about rgb,

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?

hallow mesa
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Alright so im on a budget of a thousand right now, im in America, and i plan it for purely gaming. Mainly the games I'll be playing is Garry's mod, TF2, and CS:GO

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I do already have a monitor mouse and keyboard

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ive just really never tried to build one, always have been prebuilts

inland ridge
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Micro center is close?

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You can play CS:GO on almost anything

hallow mesa
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Not really

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but yea I do need something that'll be able to run Garry's mod since I literally have 13k hours on it

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also I do play HOI4 a lot

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and other strategy games like it

inland ridge
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Hmm

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Honestly you can run those games on anything

hallow mesa
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Yea but I think I'm gonna go with the Ryzen 3600X core processor, since I've heard they're pretty good

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and also, it's not that it's that I cant run them

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it's that my computer is literally on its last legs, as I've had it for 4 years, and it's slowed down insanely

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like 20-30 FPS on even some smaller games like TF2, so

shy otter
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Any tips and anything else would be appreciated

little osprey
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Can I get some help with building myself a PC too? I have a gaming laptop but it struggles running some higher end games like MW and Ark (on high graphics), so I’m wanting to replace it.

inland ridge
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@hallow mesa between a 3600 and 3600x there’s no much difference in performance

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A 3300x should be enough for those games too

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Cheaper than the 3600

little osprey
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Anyone know where to get reasonably priced windows 10 key?

shy otter
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I could help

little leaf
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Case is over priced

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the motherboard is over priced

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I would go with more storage

little osprey
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I have a budget of $1000-1250, not including a monitor & keyboard that I’ll need to buy. Something that could smoothly run Ark & Modern warfare without and stuttering.

little leaf
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and the psu is not in stock

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@little osprey streaming or no?

sand falcon
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Could do better than a 660p

little leaf
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yes you can

little osprey
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Yes streaming.

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Would streaming require more expensive parts?

little leaf
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No let me make you a list

little osprey
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Much appreciated. 😸

sand falcon
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Streaming you just wouldn't want to drop below the 3600

stoic island
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3600 2070 super build is what I assume

inland ridge
stoic island
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That's what I'd expect at the 1200$ mark

little osprey
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Below the 3600? Sorry I’m not sure what that means.

stoic island
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Icky

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1660ti at 1200$

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Oof

viral ore
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1660s better

sand falcon
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I just mean wouldn't get a lower spec CPU than the ryzen 3600

stoic island
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We're talking about the CPU

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Yea

tall agate
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I'm building my first pc soon. I hope it's works out like I want it to.

little osprey
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Oooh okay

little leaf
viral ore
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ventus apparently has meh cooling

tall agate
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Is that the finished build?

little leaf
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You can probbaly fit in a 2070s

stoic island
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Squid I think you can fit in a 2070 super without going over budget

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Yea

little leaf
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ye thats what I just saw

inland ridge
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I feel that at the end it all comes down to your budget and what you prefer

stoic island
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The Gigabyte OC one at 500$

little leaf
little osprey
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That does look like a nice build... including with the monitor

hallow mesa
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@inland ridge Thank you so much for helping me through this 😄

inland ridge
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RoG one at 620 with taxes Bellui

viral ore
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that case only has an exhaust fan tho

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need intake

stoic island
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Oh yeah do you need monitor

inland ridge
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Mr1111

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When are the 4000 series are dropping?

little osprey
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If I bought everything from that list, would that be everything I’d need to build the PC myself at home?

stoic island
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Unknown at this point

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In the next few months

inland ridge
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I would wait a little longer tbh

little leaf
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You would need more fans but that cost like 20 bucks more

stoic island
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Ye

inland ridge
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Man that’s the hard part

stoic island
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@little osprey all you need to build a PC is a screwdriver

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That's it

little leaf
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@little osprey you need windows on a usb stick

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or linux

inland ridge
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A screwdriver with the magnetic thing

stoic island
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Os on an USB stick that too

little osprey
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I’ve no idea how to get windows in a USB

tall agate
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I can't post a link for pcpartpicker in here. Why?

stoic island
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Well you don't need a magnetic screw bit at all

inland ridge
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You don’t but makes your Life easier

stoic island
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@little osprey download windows instalation tool, that's it

inland ridge
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At least it was for me

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Thanks god the DRP came with one

stoic island
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I built my PC with a Swiss army knife

inland ridge
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Savage

stoic island
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And the included Noctua screwdriver thing

inland ridge
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Mr1111 what was your budget when you started?

stoic island
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1600 at first

inland ridge
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Mine was like 1500 and I’m probably over 1000 usd over

little leaf
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@stoic island a swiss army knife that hopefully has a screw driver in it

stoic island
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Then put like 500$ in upgrades

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Rn to buy all the parts in my build it's 1800$ about

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Including monitor

little osprey
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Thank you guys for the help. 😸 I’ll probably ask more eventually though since I’m still new to this.

stoic island
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You can refine the list as time goes on

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Stock changes

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The market changes

severe bloom
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@stoic island what was that m2 you were talking about the other night?

stoic island
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Mp34

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And sn750

inland ridge
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The only thing that is not there is that my current case is not there (Corsair spec-02)

viral ore
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but why 90 for a cpu cooler?

stoic island
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@viral ore it's good!

inland ridge
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Software: win10 + office 2019

stoic island
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I have a d15 and I'm very happy

viral ore
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well, yeah

stoic island
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Because I can keep using it

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And using it

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And using it

inland ridge
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Because my budget was kinda high

viral ore
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but im not sure if a 65w tdp cpu is in need of 90 dollars in cooling

stoic island
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It's a heatsink with a really long lifespan fan

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I'm planning for the future

fierce flame
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My friend is currently building. Everything seems to be plugged in correctly. The motherboard is getting power but the computer isnt turning on. Either trying to jump it or with the front panel connectors plugged in correctly. Anyone have ideas?

stoic island
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It might last me multiple decades

severe bloom
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I would assume it should be good for gen4 while the stock may not

viral ore
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i see that with the x570

severe bloom
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And who knows if gen4 will even come with coolers

little leaf
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@fierce flame did he plug in the cpu power ?

stoic island
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And with Noctua they ship free upgrade brackets for new sockets

inland ridge
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I'm planning for the future

This... a lot of people told me that x570 wasn’t necessary, that a b450 would do the job

stoic island
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So I can keep using it without having to spend a penny

fierce flame
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Yeah it's an 8pin and 4pin together on top

stoic island
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:p

viral ore
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mr1111 wdym noctua

stoic island
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Noctua ftw

inland ridge
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A cooler

stoic island
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I have a d15

viral ore
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im talking about the pcpp list juan sent

little leaf
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@fierce flame any post codes?

viral ore
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:p

stoic island
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Yea so Juan prob has something similar with bequiet

tall agate
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Does anyone know why I can't put pcpp links in the chat?

viral ore
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@inland ridge where did you get this list?

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just curious

inland ridge
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It was preference for me

little leaf
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@tall agate you must have a rank

inland ridge
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I did it myself

viral ore
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who made it

stoic island
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They built it

viral ore
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o i c

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nice

inland ridge
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With the help of a friend

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Why?

tall agate
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Ah. How do I get one?

severe bloom
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@inland ridge I think you could get a faster CL memory kit for the same price or maybe slightly higher

viral ore
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its not bad, just needs a few tweaks is all

sand falcon
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@tall agate Just take the http part of the link

tall agate
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Ah ok

fierce flame
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Doesnt even posy

sand falcon
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You get ranks by talking and showing you're not a troll

stoic island
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All with relevant prices

fierce flame
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Everything else isnt turning on. But the motherboard is getting power cause the LED is on for it

tall agate
fierce flame
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@little leaf

sand falcon
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You open to changes?

stoic island
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Pricing

sand falcon
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The CPU cooler is way overpriced

little leaf
stoic island
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I'd like to change a lot of that @tall agate :p

little leaf
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@fierce flame I meant like indicators of cpu / ram

stoic island
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What's the total budget?

tall agate
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About 2500

fierce flame
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Dont know what that means sorry

stoic island
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Aye Intel makes sense then, 10700k instead at least

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Debug LEDs @fierce flame

viral ore
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thoughts?

sand falcon
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I'd pull back on CPU cooler and go for 10700k or 10900k

stoic island
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I'll make a 2500$ list in a sec

fierce flame
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Debug LEDs?

inland ridge
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Mune was builded already

little leaf
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@viral ore Why the x570?

viral ore
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oh...

little leaf
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@fierce flame yes

sand falcon
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Are you putting those harddrives in raid @tall agate?

viral ore
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i thought you were asking for opinions peepoSadSip

tall agate
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I wasn't going to.

inland ridge
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Ohhh my bad

viral ore
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lol, its fine

tall agate
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I have a few friends who built their own and didn't use raid

sand falcon
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Probably best to just get a 4TB drive then. It's usually cheaper

inland ridge
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I will ask for opinions after I finish upgrading my set up

tall agate
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I've looked at 4tb but they're slower then 2 7200rpm drives

inland ridge
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Apex pro tkl
Meshify c
Razer viper ultimate
Rgb fans

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That’s part of the upgrades

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After that I will try to get a better chair and desk

sand falcon
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The drive should read the same speed. You won't get an increase in performance with two drives unless you use raid

tall agate
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ah

inland ridge
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Currently have the cheapest mouse and keyboard combination that was available when i went to microcenter

little osprey
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How legit is digitalkey and G2deals for windows key

inland ridge
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Not sure retro

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I did purchased all my software from Microsoft

stoic island
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eBay usually better

inland ridge
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It was hella expensive

stoic island
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Most people have luck with eBay

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Including me

inland ridge
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140 for w10 and another 120 for office 2019

sand falcon
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Yup

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It's a ripoff

inland ridge
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I didn’t wanted to risk it

stoic island
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It's a 3$ risk at that :p

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Nothing bad can happen other that just 3$

inland ridge
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My current laptop has a cracked version on office 2013 iirc and the mofo sometimes crashes on its own while saving

stoic island
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Which eBay still has great buyers protection over, you can prob get that 3$ back

inland ridge
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Meh

stoic island
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Ofc cracked download is crap

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Key though

severe bloom
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This is close to mine https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ would of been more if the 3080ti had been out already. It was a little cheaper as 1 m2 and the sata ssd were carry overs and lets not talk about how much I spent on water cooling. Lucky my wife <3's me

System Builder
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can't put cooling equiment in there but thats the heart

analog hearth
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if you go to school, your school might give you a free office subscription when you sign into the Microsoft Store or on Microsoft Office on Microsoft's site with your school account

inland ridge
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I didn’t mind much that money since it was a expense for business

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@severe bloom it’s emty

severe bloom
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If you have a friend that has a MSDN account (software dev) be nice to them and they can get you a key

inland ridge
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Empty

sand falcon
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@tall agate Do you need wifi?

tall agate
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I will have ethernet

severe bloom
tall agate
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Running a cable from our router to my room

sand falcon
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Cool

analog hearth
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relatable

inland ridge
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Ethernet ftw

little osprey
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I'm running cat 6

severe bloom
sand falcon
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So I know nothing about intel motherboards, so I'm just slapping a decent brand on there

inland ridge
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Nice

stoic island
severe bloom
stoic island
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I'm slapping together a build with z490 tomahawk

sand falcon
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Okay

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@tall agate Can you ditch the razer peripherals? They tend to be overpriced

inland ridge
tall agate
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I've found them for good prices

stoic island
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Overclocking at all @tall agate ?

sand falcon
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$110 for a keyboard is a bit pricey

inland ridge
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Shhh don’t judge me for choosing razer over Logitech

tall agate
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I will be trying some overclocking. I want to test the limits without breaking my pc

sand falcon
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Okay

inland ridge
stoic island
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aight I'll slap on a competent cooler then

inland ridge
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Why intel mr111?

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Personal preference?

severe bloom
sand falcon
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Started with intel, and on a high budget build it's still marginally better

stoic island
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@inland ridge large budget gaming

analog hearth
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yummy

stoic island
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Above 1400$ imo pure gaming intel takes over

sand falcon
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Though not quite as large... monitor and peripherals are in that budget

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What GPU are you being able to fit?

inland ridge
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I feel@so

stoic island
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some stuff are out of stock so slapped on a price

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they should be in stock somewhat soon

sand falcon
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What's with the case?

stoic island
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rgb

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first list had a bunch of expensive corsair rgb fans so

sand falcon
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You cut back on storage

stoic island
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rgb with the case seems better

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Yea I did slightly

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get a decent 70$ keyboard and slap in another 50$ dedicated to storage

sand falcon
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Yeah, barracuda 4TB is $99 right now, so that will be good

analog hearth
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yikes isn't that 5200rpm though?

stoic island
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I don't really know keyboards that well

sand falcon
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7200

analog hearth
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ah okay

stoic island
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you sure?

sand falcon
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Could you find a cheaper monitor too?

stoic island
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I only see 5400rpm barracuda 4tb

sand falcon
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I mean, mine is. They might be oos at that speed right now

stoic island
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eh that monitor is just really good

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not many other 1440p 144hz monitors that I like <400$ :P

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as in

inland ridge
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You can get a k70 special edition at bestbuy for 110

stoic island
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I don't know any of those cheaper panels

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K70 is just a good keyboard with brown switches, I like em, placeholder for now

severe bloom
inland ridge
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It is a good keyboard

severe bloom
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299.99

inland ridge
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I would have bought it but they didn’t had tkl

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Went with apex pro tkl

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Will try it for little bit

stoic island
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VG271u looks good

inland ridge
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If I don’t like it will retuned

stoic island
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I'll slap that in

severe bloom
stoic island
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32inch tho

inland ridge
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Oh i have a VG248QE

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Good monitor

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So far

stoic island
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not great at 1440p

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making small adjustments now

inland ridge
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Well

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I’m planing on using that one for fps

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I do have another

woven wedge
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Hehe I have a 32in 1080p xD

severe bloom
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Could also look for open box monitors

analog hearth
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I used to have a 32" in 720p

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thought it was 1080p the whole time until I started to realize how easy it was to run stuff haha

inland ridge
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380 on Black Friday

woven wedge
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Lol

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Mine is only 75hz to

analog hearth
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oh I was using a TV at the time lmfao

severe bloom
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When next gen cards hit supporting latest display port and hdmi all these monitors are going to go on sale cheap

stoic island
analog hearth
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what's WQHD? I thought QHD is 1440p

stoic island
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idk

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I just ignore it

analog hearth
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brah

woven wedge
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My 2060 is a gigabyte oc pro I got on eBay for 200

analog hearth
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WQHD is literally just QHD with an extra character that probably nobody knows what it stands for haha

stoic island
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lol

analog hearth
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but is it a real 2060?

stoic island
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whole qhd

analog hearth
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whole quad high definition

woven wedge
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Yes

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Came with a box

severe bloom
stoic island
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bench it

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make sure the previous person didn't bork it

viral ore
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tbh, i just say 1080p, 1440p, and 4k, because every other standard is practically dead

stoic island
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yeaa

viral ore
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4k @ 360hz when?

analog hearth
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holy brap

inland ridge
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Well.

severe bloom
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Will a single card in next gen be able to do that i doubt it maybe a 3090 titan or whatever they are going to call it

stoic island
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brap

woven wedge
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I should but it can push warzone max graphics with rtx just fine

viral ore
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4k @ 360hz g-sync ultimate 21" mini LED

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gimme

analog hearth
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is that HDMI?

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oh wait

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ignore that

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haha

viral ore
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ACH DEE EM EYE

severe bloom
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So should we see a card able to do that we will see new monitors as well, hoping so bc current monitors will get cheap

analog hearth
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HDMI 2.0 can also do 1440p 144Hz

woven wedge
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Lol I feel behind i don’t even own a display port cord xD

analog hearth
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you should make the switch haha

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you'll feel superior

woven wedge
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Lol

severe bloom
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Can plug more monitors in with display port 😄 lol

viral ore
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i use DP on all 3 of my monitors

woven wedge
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But things in life are more important atm

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Nice

analog hearth
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I have HDMI on one of my monitors (it doesn't have DP lol)

spiral flax
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pog

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pog

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pog

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pog

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pgo

inland ridge
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Chill

analog hearth
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MODS

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AHHH

woven wedge
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Stop

stoic island
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pgo

analog hearth
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pgo

woven wedge
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Lol

stoic island
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Prague

woven wedge
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Spaghetti

analog hearth
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China

woven wedge
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Corona

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I think we got off track

tall agate
stoic island
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Petition

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Again, 120mm rad not worth

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Z490 gaming edge a bit high end eh

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no need for extra thermal paste

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970 evo expensive

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Mp34 better for price to performance

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RTX 2060 is very underpowered for 1440p @tall agate

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best get at least 2070 super

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and 3$ windows keys

analog hearth
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that's a lot of power lol

severe bloom
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Yeah only get a 970 evo if you can get it on sale. I only have them bc I got my first one a long time ago when it was the best choice and the pro one I got bc it was on sale at microcenter 1tb for 179 back in january

olive briar
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Hey I building in a month or so and I'm going to use a 1660s and upgrade later down the line, I play a lot of open world games and really when the game looks nice so I have narrowed it down to 2 monitors the aoc 24g2 and the pixio px27h, the aoc is a 1080p 144hz ips panel, and the pixio is a 1440p 95hz ips panel, I don't believe I'm going to be getting into the 100+ fps on most of the games I'm going to be playing so is it okay to get a slower refresh monitor sense I shouldn't be needing 144hz very often if at all

stoic island
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Well monitors can be a fairly long term investment

olive briar
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Yes indeed, I've never really worked with anything more than 60hz so I don't know if I need more than the 95hz offered and once I find a good deal on a higher end graphics card Ill like to have a better image quality so that's why I was considering the pixio

stoic island
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Oh and also

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1080p and 1440p have a difference

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@olive briar you can get 100+fps on 1080p with a 1660 super

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but not really 95fps on 1440p

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(ultra settings avg in games)

tall agate
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Do you have any suggestions for a good monitor with g-sync for a price?

stoic island
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Most freesync monitors have G-sync

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change the keyboard mouse headset around as you'd like

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maybe go for a 2070 super if you need to save the money

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but at least a 2070 super, with 2080 super being ideal

severe bloom
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just not the evga black

spiral flax
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how much will rtx 3080 be if it comes out

severe bloom
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At least the price of a 2080 if not more

spiral flax
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k

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what about the rtx 3090

severe bloom
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I assume it will be close to the titan pricing

spiral flax
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how much is the titan?

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is titan good for gaming and streaming or just one or the other

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all i know is its hella expensive

severe bloom
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A titan is 2500

spiral flax
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dam

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dam

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dam

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dam

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ai im lvl 3

severe bloom
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Yeah you hit it

spiral flax
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Is this a good pcpartslist? I was wondering if this is a good list for some light steaming and gaming and also some light school homework on the side. Any help or feedback would be appreciated! https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WLFLNq And also what can I change to make the pc better?

System Builder
tall agate
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I just changed it to be a MSI GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8gb GPU

severe bloom
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What kind of homework?

sand falcon
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What will you be studying in school?

spiral flax
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super light homework

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for school

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not anything hella work forcing

sand falcon
#

So not mechenical engineering

spiral flax
#

and also light straming

#

yes not mechinical engineering

sand falcon
#

So looking over this, the ssd is odd. I'll have to check it out real quick

tall agate
#

I need a strong pc for College. I'm majoring in Photo Imaging which includes photography/photo editing and video editing and processing

spiral flax
#

its good appraently

#

never heard of it but its a good ssd

#

so i put in build

tall agate
#

The 970evo is one of the leaders for highend M.2 right now.

severe bloom
#

970 Evo is overpriced unless you get it on a good sale

sand falcon
#

The ADATA seems decent. A tad pricey, but it's decent,
970evo is very expensive

severe bloom
sand falcon
#

More expensive than the team drives

#

@spiral flax You might consider just using the stock cooler

tall agate
#

Later on for my setup I'll be adding an xbox to it. I already have a 32" tv to mount once my build is done

stoic island
#

Well 970 evo is just expensive

sand falcon
#

Also, your case already comes with fans, so you don't really need more

stoic island
#

with no performance gain

#

SN750 beats it in everything

#

sustained read write

#

sequential read write

sand falcon
#

Durability?

stoic island
#

Good entry level m.2 imo is either SN750 or Mp34

#

really good still iirc

sand falcon
#

That's one thing that samsung has had in their favour for a bit, though it seems like most people are catching up

woven wedge
#

So when my pc goes to sleep, is there a way to wake it up using my enter key. It works on my dads pc but I have to wake up my pc using the power switch.

tall agate
#

How good is the Crucial P1 M.2

woven wedge
#

I have seen team force recommended

humble rivet
#

Wait you have to use the power button wtf that's wierd I can use any key

stoic island
#

not really

#

P1 is qlc

severe bloom
sand falcon
#

It will be a bit slower

stoic island
#

5 year warrenty so it's still pretty good

#

tbw endurance mp34 is crazy high

sand falcon
#

It's almost sus

stoic island
#

It is sus

#

confusingly sus on the mp34

tall agate
stoic island
#

120mm rad

#

expensive motherboard

#

expensive high latency ram

#

still low end gpu

#

can get windows 10 pro key for 3$

woven wedge
#

Do you know of any settings for it @humble rivet

stoic island
#

and keyboard is meh

tall agate
#

It's a 2060Super. I need the most bang for the buck.

stoic island
#

2070 super is the most bang for the buck

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:P

sand falcon
#

What Mr1111 said. The list he did earlier is pretty good

stoic island
#

I can slap in a 2070s to my earlier list and get more leftover money

#

2080s is not great price to perf

tall agate
#

I still need money for camera gear and money for car insurance and maintenance.

stoic island
humble rivet
#

@woven wedge do you know if the usb power still works while it's a sleep?

sand falcon
worn river
#

Hi

stoic island
#

oh whisper m is still in stock eh

sand falcon
#

Sometimes systems have USB power in sleep, some don't

humble rivet
#

Yeah ik

woven wedge
#

Yes my rgb turns on but nothing on the pc turns on

sand falcon
#

If you plug in a mouse does it light up?

humble rivet
#

That might help

woven wedge
#

My razer tri you naga didn’t do anything when I re plugged it in while off. Brobably cause the rgb is set to turn off when the screen is off.

#

Trinity

sand falcon
#

Okay

fierce flame
#

@little leaf

#

We ended up giving up

#

Tried a different power supply didn't work

#

Tried jumping but he didn't have a screwdriver big enough to jump

#

Ggs

severe bloom
#

Yeah its all dependent on the board. My MSI Creator has 3 ports that will stay on and let you charge a device or leave the leds on the mouse on but the rest are all off. my asus board that died all ports were on when it was off

woven wedge
humble rivet
#

Nice

woven wedge
#

Thanks for the link @humble rivet

#

can confirm it did work

#

@stoic island just did a user benchmark test and got this

#

UserBenchmarks: Game 78%, Desk 65%, Work 64%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - 82.8%
GPU: Nvidia RTX 2060 - 84.5%
SSD: Samsung 970 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 500GB - 229.6%
HDD: WD Blue 1TB (2012) - 100.6%
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V DDR4 3200 C16 2x8GB - 86.6%
MBD: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX (MS-7C02)

sand falcon
#

Can you give the link?

woven wedge
sand falcon
#

What happened with the SSD?

stoic island
#

all fairly normal

woven wedge
#

im not sure but the benchmark through Samsung magician says its great

#

also is it generally ok to oc a monitor

#

i would like to get a little more than 75 out of the one i have

humble rivet
#

I've never heard of it killing a monitor but idk

hallow mesa
buoyant flame
#

I wouldnt get that one, either pay 40 bucks more for a 2060 super or 60 bucks less for a 2060 ko.

#

Your essentially paying 60 dollars for lights on that one

hallow mesa
#

Alright, thank you man

buoyant flame
humble rivet
hallow mesa
#

big stonks lmao

#

it's the same price as this one video card that was only 3 gig memory

buoyant flame
#

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

humble rivet
#

Very big stonks

buoyant flame
#

What are you using it for?

hallow mesa
#

Mainly heavy gaming, like I am getting into more bigger games like Ark, and garrys mod mainly

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garrys mod is big only cause I play with a shitload of mods

buoyant flame
#

Are you planning to stream?

hallow mesa
#

As in purple stream site funny? Cause if so I do it a bit, yea

buoyant flame
#

Also you might want to delete that one word. Mods don't like it tupb

hallow mesa
#

oh yea

buoyant flame
#

Ok so a 2060 super would be your best bet

#

Not the message I meant lol

hallow mesa
#

well damn

buoyant flame
#

Nvm lol

hallow mesa
#

but yea, im just new to PC building

#

so

buoyant flame
#

Ya, if you can find a 2060super in stock id go with that

hallow mesa
#

does limit 20 per person mean it has a good stock

#

also it has a 15 dollar off thing, so

#

pog

buoyant flame
#

Uhhh probably lol

hallow mesa
#

ight well thank you

#

I woulda wasted like 60 dollars lmao

buoyant flame
#

Np

dusk cradle
#

Im interested in building my first pc but ive heard that prices atm are skyrocketing is there much truth to that?

tepid basalt
#

not really rocketing

#

but definitely higher

#

however the peak's passed

dusk cradle
#

oh ok awesome! would it be smarter to wait a couple of more weeks or would it be safe to go ahead and start ordering parts now?

tepid basalt
#

well rn, psu is quite hard to come by if you want one in the common 550 - 750 range

#

if you want gold 80+

#

but if you're okkay with brozne, I think it'll be easier

#

the rest is fine

#

also, if you go ryzen, b550 release is tomorrow

dusk cradle
#

oh ok thank you very much for the help

stoic island
#

Wait as long as you can :P

agile cloak
#

Can someone send me links to something I can build with a $200 budget😭 I just need help

silk estuary
#

oof $200 budget

#

rough

little osprey
#

$200?

#

Can you even get a decent GPU for $200?

stoic island
#

Optiplex

#

Plus an used 570

silk estuary
#

That's like

#

Bruh

stoic island
#

That might work

silk estuary
#

Everything you need for 200?

stoic island
#

Like 120$+80$

#

That's the only option really

silk estuary
#

So ram, mobo, cpu, gpu, case and storage?

#

Like.... Thats rough man

stoic island
#

Optiplex has everything

silk estuary
#

Oh

stoic island
#

You just need a gpu for gaming

silk estuary
#

I don't know anything /s

#

Just sounds rough

stoic island
#

Optiplex is one of those dell work PCs with like Intel i3 4--- chips

silk estuary
#

Ohhhh optiplex as in those school computers

stoic island
#

Plus ram and motherboard and storage and PSU

#

Yea

#

Plus say

#

@agile cloak that will give you a decent enough experience

little osprey
#

Just a few more hours, and the build can begin. Then the not fun part of installing windows.

granite delta
#

Yes

#

windows installation

#

our favourite part of pc building

#

yes?

lyric thistle
#

Heck, even an RX 560 would be decent compared to what I have

#

If that leads to a cheaper price than the 570...if not, then just go with the 570 ofc

low ember
#

just a quick question that i can't seem to get a straight answer on from google. i currently have a 500gb ssd as my storage on my current build. doing my new build once my parts come in. I want to keep all my files and apps and windows and transfer it to my new PC. assuming compatibility, can i just plug in my old ssd into my new build and keep all my data? or would i have to find some method of transferring it to a new ssd?

lyric thistle
#

That should be possible I think

#

There will probably be problems though idk

low ember
#

don't need any problems haha. just want to know how to get my new build running with all my files and data from my previous build.

little osprey
#

If it's a new motherboard you will definitely need to reactivate windows. I put an old HHD with a new build never ran into issues. Though my computer now is a brand new build.

lyric thistle
#

I'm not sure how that would work

#

Would installed programs function properly?

#

On both C and E, F, G etc. Drives

little osprey
#

Yes, never had issues. Still the same HHD, just new system. Programs installed on an a HHD stay on the HHD. Just have to reactivate windows.

lyric thistle
#

Alright neat

#

Hmm

#

Got me curious what kind of Windows key I have

#

It's something you can identify by its structure, right?

low ember
#

i might do a backup just incase. have a lot of important stuff on my ssd. can't afford to lose it

lyric thistle
#

Should do that anyway lol

low ember
#

i can probably just buy a cheap hdd for that right?

little osprey
#

No matter what your doing, its always a good idea to back up your data. I use cloud back up.

low ember
#

yeah i guess cloud backup is better in some ways

little osprey
#

No worry about corrupt data, when using cloud storage. Physical drives run the risk of corrupting your data

low ember
#

yeah

#

anyone providers you recommend?

little osprey
#

Theres slot just do your research. Go with what you feel is best for your needs and price point.

#

Could I get someone to rate a build that was suggested to me?

stark quail
#

Hey what's a good build with a budget of 1500

little leaf
#

@stark quail

stark quail
little osprey
#

Been reading reviews on ebay for windows 10, and man that's some scary stuff. Will be having nightmares now. More than willing to pay 140$ for windows 10 home, from Microsoft.

#

Can't believe people are willing to risk that.

little leaf
#

@little osprey no windows ten for 140 bucks is a rip off even rom windows lol

#

I got windows for 5 bucks

little osprey
#

Surprised it works

little leaf
#

Works fine and works fine for all the other pcs I built

#

Not from ebay but not from microsoft or any where near the price point of 140

little osprey
#

Yea, but was it from a Microsoft authorized retailer

little leaf
#

No

little osprey
#

So no Microsoft support then?

little leaf
#

I mean I guess not but why would you need microsoft support?

#

@stark quail let me fix that for you

#

The price of some of those parts are absurd

stark quail
#

Okay thanks

ionic osprey
#

How do I make this setup look better

little leaf
#

more rgb

little osprey
little leaf
#

NitropeepoSadSip

next gulch
#

rgb 😂

shadow flume
#

How do I make this setup look better
@ionic osprey start with a match. j/kget somee rgb rocks like i got

ionic osprey
#

woah

shadow flume
#

i cant seem to post picks of my rgb rocks

shy otter
#

All these am4 socket motherboards are out of stock? Should I go with the b550 since it just released? @.me

analog hearth
#

why not lol

#

I personally would

shy otter
crude otter
#

I was noticing the same thing

#

Was gonna get the asus tuf, new egg sells for 190, but out of stock. Only place it's Amazon for 375

#

Was thinking of switching to the gigabyte auros pro wifi for 270 at that point

stoic island
#

@shy otter that's for the iGPU

#

I.e. 3200g/3400g

shy otter
#

oh yeah, tysm

shadow mango
#

i dont have bluetooth???

#

any help why??

#

my dad was saying i needa get a card for all of that

#

is that correct

potent prairie
#

If you didn't buy a mobo that has it... just get a usb stick, or a pcle card if you like

sand falcon
#

Sounds about right

shadow mango
#

how can i tell if my mb has it

sand falcon
#

I'd go with the stick. Bluetooth is fairly low bandwidth

#

What motherboars do you have?

potent prairie
shadow mango
#

rog strix b450-f gaming

sand falcon
#

Looks like no bluetooth

shadow mango
#

thats v v v sad

sand falcon
#

Usually, the wifi mobos also have bluetooth built in

shadow mango
#

yea true i mean i use ether net so i didnt think i needed a card for wifi but i should have got one cause now i no have bluetooth

high coyote
#

Any changes y’all think I should do for this submerge liquid build

📎 image0.jpg
potent prairie
#

That's the only reason I got the wifi version of my board.

#

But yeah, that link I sent is a good option. Bluetooth 5.0 dongles are more pricey

shadow mango
#

yea true is there a stick with wifi and bluetooth

potent prairie
#

There are

shadow mango
#

do i just look up wifi bluetooth usb

#

adapter

potent prairie
#

Yeah. If you're getting one with wifi anyways, you should look for 802.11ac

shadow mango
#

the cards are ugly lookin lol

#

imma just get bluetooth

sand falcon
#

Yeah

#

Bluetooth is low bandwidth, so it won't really throttle over USB

shadow mango
#

okay is the one i linked good

potent prairie
#

It's overpriced

#

the one I linked is the same thing (also from a reputable brand) for $8 less

severe bloom
#

@shadow mango you need a card

#

I got one for my wife’s board hold on

potent prairie
#

You don't need a card. USB works fine

severe bloom
#

You could but I like having all my USB ports

potent prairie
#

That is bluetooth 5 which is a bonus

severe bloom
#

She needed Wi-Fi and Bluetooth but if you just need Bluetooth that usb will be fine

potent prairie
#

imma just get bluetooth

severe bloom
#

Well if he changes his mind that’s a pretty decent card and does great for both Wi-Fi and Bluetooth.

sand falcon
#

USB can be split out indefinitely

severe bloom
#

Yeah but I prefer to not have a usb hub or anything else external. A splitter doesn’t give that single port your on more bandwidth

shadow mango
#

okay so i just need bluetooth

#

so is there a usb hub i can buy to put in my computer and not havit it on the outside

sand falcon
#

Yeah

shadow mango
#

link???

#

or do i just look up usb hubs

severe bloom
sand falcon
#

Google internal USB hub. It basically plugs into the front panel header and has a nother header on the output

severe bloom
#

It has more headers and some ports

shadow mango
#

does it have fan ports cause i wanna add more fans

severe bloom
#

No just usb.

#

Idk of any fan hubs that have USB ports.

shadow mango
#

ahh so maybe i just get the usb and plug it in to the fron cause you cant really see the front where my pc is sitting cause i wanna add one or 2 more fans to my build

severe bloom
shadow mango
#

okay cool thankis

sand falcon
#

You can also get fan connector splitters, but that will draw more power from the mobo fan connectors

summer ore
#

Would you take a 500gb ssd and 2tb hdd or 1tb ssd?

sand falcon
#

sata or nvme?

#

Also, how much do you have to store?

stoic island
#

Games, 1tb nvme :D

summer ore
#

Sata

sand falcon
#

That's a bit tougher

mortal void
#

would a 500GB M.2 be enough for installing Win 10 and whatever miscellaneous programs I'd need? or should I go 250?

sand falcon
#

What programs?

mortal void
#

Chrome, Razer software for my Keyboard that sorta thing. I've heard people recommend 250GB or 500GB M.2s for Windows 10 and whatever else you'd need

#

even if not all of it would be used

sand falcon
#

You can install win10 on 128GB if you need to, but if you want games, you want 500GB+

mortal void
#

I'm doing a 2TB SSD for games

sand falcon
#

Probably could do 256GB easy then

mortal void
#

my original plan was to get a 2TB Nvme M.2 for Windows 10 and Games, but the one I found has bad reviews

sand falcon
#

Which was it?

mortal void
#

Adata XPG SX8200 Pro

#

reviews said it didn't get advertised speeds and a good number of people had it die on them pretty quick

sand falcon
#

No drive will get the advertised speeds in standard loads. The speeds they list are for the Absolute optimum situation

#

Durability though is a potential issue

mortal void
#

yeah I'd rather not take that gamble

#

since it would be my main drive

hallow mesa
#

im super new to pc building so..

mortal void
#

@sand falcon
Can you recommend me a good 250 or 256 GB M.2? It has to be M interface though

sand falcon
#

Does the motheboard only support that?

mortal void
#

1 x M.2 slot (Key M)
Supports PCIe 3.0 x4

#

its a B450 Tomahawk Max

sand falcon
#

mp34 is a good cheap one. WDs blacks are good for a slightly more expensive drive

mortal void
#

this?

sand falcon
#

Yeah

mortal void
#

okay

#

there's also the Western Digital Black Nvme for $95

little osprey
#

Are there any of the newly released mobos that have built in wifi for cheap?

sand falcon
#

sn500?

#

@little osprey AMD or intel?

little osprey
#

Amd

#

3rd gen

sand falcon
#

So you looking for b550, b450, or x570?

little osprey
#

Preferably 570, but I'll take lower

#

Max price $190

sand falcon
#

What CPU?

little osprey
#

5 3600

sand falcon
#

b450 will be fine then. When they're in stock, you can get a board with wifi for ~80-100 bucks

little osprey
#

Oh and would also prefer a nvme slot, it's fine if there isn't any, I have an external adapter

sand falcon
#

Almost all b450 will have an nvme slot

#

All the ones I know of do, but there might be some weird one that doesn't

little osprey
#

Ok

mortal void
#

just check the board specs and you'll be fine 👍

#

these are my choices for a Boot Drive

#

I'm inclined to go with Team Group as I'm trying to make my build as budget as I can

sullen spoke
mortal void
#

dat heatsink model doe lol

#

500GB seems a bit much for what I'll be using it for though

#

however the 250 model is nice

hallow mesa
#

Can I get linked a good thermal paste?

fast dust
#

@hallow mesa just look up Arctic MX-4 on Newegg or wtv. It’s cheap and very good.

mortal void
#

speaking of, would it be a good idea to wipe off the CPU cooler that comes with my Ryzen 7 3700x and use a different thermal paste?

fast dust
#

Unless you’re having temperature problems with the included paste no need @mortal void

mortal void
#

fair enough

#

also WOW my Mobo sold out quick. It had a restock earlier but now its gone

#

real question is, 32 or 16 Gigs of RAM? ThinkingEgg

sullen spoke
#

most people only need 16

#

if you are doing tasks that are more ram heavy then you would get 32

mortal void
#

well I'd just be gaming

sullen spoke
#

then 16 is enough

mortal void
#

It was more for future-proofing than anything

fast dust
#

Future proofing is a lie

mortal void
#

gasp

fast dust
mortal void
#

Gold Rush the Game needs 16

#

oof

#

thats alot

#

I imagine Cyberpunk will also need 16Gigs

fast dust
#

yeah but not 32 gigs

#

and, chances are you have 4 ram slots, so if you get 166gb, that's most likely going to be a 2x8gb kit, so if you for some reason do need to upgrade, just buy another 2x8gb kit

sullen spoke
#

the issue is if something new like ddr5 comes out, then getting more ddr4 wouldn't be futureproofing

fast dust
#

exactly

mortal void
#

funny you mention DDR5 actually lmao

#

it supposed to come this year

#

but likely won't

cursive wharf
#

It'll most likely come this year, but wont get utilized by much of anything until next year

mortal void
#

true enoguh

#

enoguh

#

SMH

cursive wharf
#

F

mortal void
#

I can't type today IG

#

but also counter argument. I need 32 gigs so I can open more than 3 chrome tabs at once NYEHE

cursive wharf
#

umm. FYI 32GB only allows for 1 chrome tab

mortal void
#

DAMN

#

FOILED AGAIN

mortal void
#

real question is Grey or Red RAM sticks ThinkingEgg

little osprey
#

Damn delivery, less than two miles away. And it seems to be taking forever to show up.

analog hearth
#

grey

little osprey
#

Red

analog hearth
#

ew

mortal void
#

lol

analog hearth
#

what

#

why

#

ahhh

#

gray doesn't die out

#

red is a marketing strategy

mortal void
#

I'm going with the B450 Tomahawk Max. Either/or would look good

analog hearth
#

I would pick gray

#

red if you want to keep the better looking RAM for us

mortal void
#

lol

#

I'm still stuck on 16 or 32 lmao

analog hearth
#

what will you be doing?

mortal void
#

Gaming

analog hearth
#

16

#

no reason to go higher for now

mortal void
#

I'll have multiple things open at once though

#

is why I'm unsure

analog hearth
#

I can usually have Chrome open with a game simultaneously and it'll run fine

mortal void
#

well theres Discord to add as well

analog hearth
#

yeah it would be fine

#

12GB is actually the real minimum you should go

#

but 12GB is weird to put in a system, so it's really just best to go 16GB

sand falcon
#

You need more than that. A windows install will take 30GB+

analog hearth
#

we're talking about RAM

#

what

sand falcon
#

Yup

mortal void
#

well the reason I was thinking of putting 32gigs was something a friend told me
"i have 16 gigs of ram and just having my pc on with only discord steam and chrome open and its taking up 30% of my memory to then open up siege would put me almost at my max"

sand falcon
#

Windows takes at least 30GB

#

To be serious though, 16GB is enough for most uses

analog hearth
#

I mean, it's just the install, though, right?

#

that happens only once

#

(usually)

cursive wharf
#

tomahawk max isnt that great tbh
due to single NVMe M2, poor sound chip, lack of WiFi, and such compared to other boards at same price

sand falcon
#

I'm actually not sure how much installing will take... Probably not much but idk

#

Windows just copies data for a most part

mortal void
#

tomahawk max isnt that great tbh
@cursive wharf
It has 2 RGB Headers which is what I need for CPU Cooler and PC Case, don't care about Wi-Fi as both my PS4 and Current PC are both on Ethernet

#

I chose it because it has what I need

cursive wharf
#

are you getting 12v or 5v?

#

There are two standard for RGB headers after all

#

and you need to make sure about getting the correct one

mortal void
#

2 x 5050 RGB LED strip 12V connectors

#

thats what they are

cursive wharf
#

That has two 12v RGB headers

#

and is smth like 50 CAD cheaper then tomahawk

mortal void
#

the regular Pro 4 would be better suited

#

my PC case comes with 3 Fans

#

and the Pro4-F doesn't seem like it has enough

#

theres also the issue of both not supporting my R7 3700x out of the box

#

may need a BIOS update

prisma blaze
#

what is the best cpu for gaming rn?

cursive wharf
#

BIOS is updated at factory. Zen2 BIOSes have been out for one long while. With stock being out then renewed from most likely factory almost 24/7, you'd be hard pressed to get an old BIOS

mortal void
#

okay

#

thanks

#

these are my choices if I were to go with something other than Tomahawk Max

#

thoughts? opinions?

#

I'm inclined to go with the b450M Pro4

hallow mesa
#

Go with the new B550

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that's what im gonna use in my build

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and it's actually super reliable I've heard

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like more reliable than some of these pro gaming ones that they have for sale

mortal void
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can't

little osprey
mortal void
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this is my build

cursive wharf
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B550 isn't guaranteed to have the same price to perf as b450

feral jetty
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@tender sparrow Do you get issues with your card?

little leaf
mortal void
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question:
The PC Case I want has front panel USB-C 3.1 Gen 2 and USB 3.0
I need an Adapter for my front panel USB-C to work.
If I use an Adapter will it deactivate the front panel USB 3.0?
Specs of the Motherboard I chose:
6 USB 3.1 Gen1 (2 Front, 4 Rear)
1 x USB 3.1 Gen1 Header (Supports 2 USB 3.1 Gen1 ports)

Its no biggie if I can't use the USB-C on the Front. But I'd like to without giving issues to other USB Ports

arctic jungle
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@mortal void

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ping somebody like Hei or another techie

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they'd probably understand better what ur trying to do

mortal void
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but like, I don't wanna be a bother lol

exotic trellis
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When you have all the parts except for the motherboard. and when you ordered the bother. It was sold out, so you have to wait, I DUNNNO, another week will all your parts in your room waiting. the feeling sucks so bad

little leaf
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@exotic trellis happened to me

exotic trellis
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did you get you order asap?

little leaf
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I got all the parts for a build for friend and am still waiting for mobo

exotic trellis
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how long has it been

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since you ordered?

little leaf
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2 weeks

exotic trellis
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Its been 2 weeks without the mobo now for me, and i called today that newegg doesnt have the mobo so theyre trying to contact another manufacturer to get the mobo i ordered.

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omg, i aint tryning wait that long

normal sail
little leaf
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Oh god

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Do not get that

mortal void
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ew Intel

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lol

feral jetty
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^^^^^

normal sail
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Y not?

little leaf
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Oh god intel is fine but those components

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Oh god

feral jetty
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That MOtherboard

spiral zealot
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i thought you were going to flip to the 3600 after you linked it earlier

normal sail
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That’s in another list

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I’m making a few

little leaf
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WHY ARE YOU GETTING A 9900k AND A 2079

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That list hurts me

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Whats your budget?

normal sail
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Ok ok chill out I’ll change it

little leaf
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@normal sail do you have a budgrt?

normal sail
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Around 1.5k

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Give or take 200

little leaf
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Ok

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Ez

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3600 and 2080s

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2tb baracuda

normal sail
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Just want something for gaming and YT

little leaf
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500gb mp34

spiral zealot
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we suggested 3600+2070S before, original part list was around $1.3k

little leaf
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Case p300a mesh if its in stock

normal sail
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@spiral zealot I never saw the list

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Can u link it?

spiral zealot
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none of us put together a list, we just said 3600+2070S would be better than the 9900k combo

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because if you're gonna go 9900K you have to go balls out with the rest of the system as well

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otherwise it's a waste

normal sail
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Ok

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And @little leaf can you make me a list please?

little osprey
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I might not get a new gpu Squid

normal sail
spiral zealot
little osprey
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I'd go down to a 2070S and a 500W PSU

spiral zealot
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you can get a windows key cheap, i wouldn't pay full msrp for one

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but yeah if you want to save like $200-250, you can drop to a 2070S

mortal void
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ew RGB Ram lol

little osprey
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Difference between 2070/2080 isn't much

normal sail
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@mortal void It looks cool

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@spiral zealot ik. That’s just the list for the components

spiral zealot
normal sail
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I think I’ll stick with ur latest list, but with a 2080s instead

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Thanks @spiral zealot

little osprey
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@little leaf I might not get a 1660

normal sail
spiral zealot
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list is private

normal sail
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Oh

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Wait one sec

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@spiral zealot u there?

spiral zealot
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maybe

summer ore
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...

spiral zealot
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that list looks good though

little leaf
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Sorry I went to eat lunch