that's normal, that's how mine was when i was using the stock cooler
#building-and-recc-chat
analog pulsar
Yes Ik it’s normal
sand falcon
No it's not. Look at the way the gpu is facing. All the information is flowing that way, so that is up
analog pulsar
I swear my freaking fingers hurt
little osprey
Annnnnd ... sideways
little osprey
No idea why anyone would buy that
analog pulsar
Like where is the pin password located
spiral zealot
i've actually never seen that windows error before
could just be a side effect of changing CPU, and windows activation is partially based on hardware configuration
you can probably just setup a new PIN
and it should be fine in theory
chilly saddle
hi
stoic island
zoom
spiral zealot
you can also run hwinfo on sensors-only mode
analog pulsar
Yea
spiral zealot
which is the one i prefer
analog pulsar
I do that
stoic island
prime95 is nice
analog pulsar
I was gunna use cpu z
bleak grove
i like cpu z
modern shadow
same
analog pulsar
Cpu temp rn is jumping
modern shadow
must have
analog pulsar
Yikes I’m scared
modern shadow
for me I use core temp for monitorig
stoic island
hehe
analog pulsar
78c and climbing
stoic island
p95 best temp tester
analog pulsar
79
stoic island
p95 smallfft runs at ~76c now on my uc :D
sand falcon
Still climbing?
analog pulsar
Lol my cpu running at 0%
bleak grove
wat
bleak grove
damn
analog pulsar
My last cpu was 20-40
bleak grove
i get 30% on idle lol
spiral zealot
max temps seem in line with stock cooler, what are your idle temps?
analog pulsar
ummm 47-55
spiral zealot
sounds about right
if you want, you can always repaste later with something like arctic silver or thermal grizzly, and it'll bring them down a little, the stock paste is fine, but aftermarket is just better
but i wouldn't worry about those temps
little osprey
Mine is at 35C, but it has always run colder.
spiral zealot
you might also be able to bring them down a little depending on your fan setup in your case
little osprey
It's hot in here today so it'd higher than normal
spiral zealot
throttling doesn't kick in until 95c
analog pulsar
Oh okay
spiral zealot
so if you're in the low 80's, you're still short of the danger zone
analog pulsar
Well that’s with stressing it
spiral zealot
the wraith stealth cooler that comes with the 3600 is definitely the weakest of the stock ryzen coolers, but it will still get the job done and keep it in the safe ranges
analog pulsar
It is only 2000rpms and my cpu was still rising while stressed
With stressing 2 core my cpu is at 70C
Stressing 4 cores cpu is at 71C
🤔
Lol look at this
That’s my stock fan
zealous wolf
How many rfhz do I want for a gamin moni?
deep skiff
?
zealous wolf
Refresh rate
deep skiff
ya 240hz is really only needed for competitive games where you really need the extra frames
cloud drum
Can I get a uhhhhhh
little osprey
144 unless you're doing some serious competition stuff
cloud drum
What brand
stoic island
?
little osprey
For me ... ASUS or Giga.
little osprey
Think they were asking for Monitor, but could be wrong.
woven wedge
Oof I have the pleasure of 75 hz for the first time xD
I haven’t tried overclocking though
analog pulsar
jagged ember
wow it beats an intel xeon?
cloud plank
@neon condor
neon condor
little leaf
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zpnd7T build in question for @magic bough
Ram isnt the best
slate thistle
what cooler
slate thistle
you don't like veng?
little leaf
The lattency is pretty high wouldnt recommend myself
slate thistle
he may have some sort of rgb build and isn't really concerned about budget
I know I budged for them. i got 3200 and a cheaper board and intel though lol
little leaf
Could go trident z
slate thistle
yeah for sure
little leaf
@slate thistle if he didnt have a budget why this
little leaf
I mean the bloody timmings are 18-22-22-42
Also no need to buy windows for that much
slate thistle
haha yeah, spend that on a cheap aio
jagged ember
yess
slate thistle
yeah lol noctuas are fantastic just loud
little leaf
I mean they get the job done
cedar night
so i was looking for a tomahawk max because my friends recommended me it but im unable to find one thats not over priced or out of stock @little leaf
slate thistle
what were you trying to spend on it?
little leaf
Welp the one my friend just bought just sold out
it was the msi b450 gaming max
@cedar night https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-b450m-plus-gaming/p/N82E16813119141 This is in stock atm
slate thistle
the shortage is real
little leaf
Yes
little leaf
There should be just a few standoffs you don’ use
slate thistle
what case do you have
cedar night
little leaf
Nice case
cedar night
ty
slate thistle
oh yeah that's legit
still roostBOT
Ragnarocker#2819 has been warned
slate thistle
i feel like you're supposed to use the corsair aio with that lol
makes it so pretty haha. (if you're into that sort of thing)
little leaf
Whats your build list?
magic bough
he may have some sort of rgb build and isn't really concerned about budget
@slate thistle im not doing an rgb build and i am concerned abt money my friend made this for me idk if it good or not thats why i brought it here. Thanks
slate thistle
that is good information to have @magic bough you could save ALOT if you're trying to go budget
i just installed my first aio, it's actually very very simple
I was intimidated at first also
jagged ember
yeah
jagged ember
but then again, your closed loop aio will perform on par with bigger air coolers
unless you get some crazy custom water loop it won't improve your temperatures
magic bough
Nice @slate thistle
slate thistle
yeah the corsair h100i platinum
jagged ember
as with air coolers all that can fail is the fan
slate thistle
yeah corsair gives 5 year guarantees on their aio's tho
cedar night
to clean it obviously
little leaf
@magic bough https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QCH8cq
cedar night
like a car wash
jagged ember
yeah no you're right
little leaf
Can’t find great psus rn
cedar night
hey thats my case : D
jagged ember
psus are sad
slate thistle
wait squid
wouldnt he need to socket a cpu to update bios
before putting that in
like..unless he can boot he wouldn't be able to put that cpu in i think
slate thistle
you have to check
it has to have a sticker that says "ready for ryzen 3000" sticker
tepid basalt
it's been over half a year now
you don't really have to worry about that
if you're really scared of that scenario (though you shouldn't be), find a motherboard with bios flashback button
tho that'll narrow down your choice significantly
tepid basalt
or just wait for a b550 and forget about all these trouble
little leaf
@slate thistle my ds3h mobo that came yesterday is 3rd gen compat
and thats a budget board
slate thistle
i mean, if it's new then probably wouldn't have to worry but
careful with refurb/open box
little leaf
I mean hes buying new
true remnant
sudden turret
cursive wharf
at best, this is #general-chat stuff
buoyant flame
and he left the server lol
analog hearth
@lime forge is that just an Alex drawer that your PC is on?
honestly it's giving me ideas lol
sullen spoke
what do you need help with, if it is a question that doesn't fit the channels either here or #electronics is fine
analog hearth
@high marsh here
analog hearth
just talk for a bit
rank up
level 3 and then you can send photos and links. check !rank in #ranks-and-levels
high marsh
okay i just needed help, my question is whats a good case
analog hearth
I typically would say to stay away from the any modern NZXT cases. looks like everybody else's PC and has decent (at best) airflow
high marsh
Ye like which case
analog hearth
I'd just go with something with a front fan grill (and not something with sort of a window and the fan grills on the side, like the Cooler Master MasterBox
something like this (fan grills at the front). airflow is just easier that way (at least typically, but not always)
analog hearth
something like that
that's my case and I believe it's around $80
good lucky cable managing though lol
high marsh
$94
analog hearth
oh bruh lol
high marsh
@inland atlas like what case my guy
analog hearth
yes thank you. that's the word I was looking for
analog hearth
mesh front panel so the fans can intake air much more easily
high marsh
@inland atlas what is it
inland atlas
It means not in stock . Which most cases are out of stock
high marsh
O
inland atlas
Let me see if I can find it in stock
high marsh
kk
high marsh
@analog hearth i want one in stock since im buying rn
analog hearth
what form factor are you wanting (like, ATX full-tower, mid-tower, mATX desktop, etc.)?
analog hearth
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wMpmP6/corsair-icue-220t-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011173-ww
this case looks good imo. comes with a Commander Pro (or some sort of Corsair RGB controller), three RGB fans, and has a semi-mesh front panel... good for cooling
analog hearth
which one? mine, or yours?
analog hearth
ah I see
I had an older version of this case and honestly it was so nice to build in
muted anchor
So my current build, first time is a 1070 turbo ti from asus, 16g of ddr4 (one stick, hope to get a few more), and an I5 9600k I had built this with the goal of upgrading the cpu in a year or so to something much better. I have been having issues with games and I belive it's the cpu. They run perfectly fine on the highest graphics till they just crash and give me an unreal 4 unpacking error. Sometimes it just crashes the system over all. I looked in the Xbox game manager thing and it showed I was using 80-95% of the cpu when running insurgency sandstorm or hell let lose. Sometimes 100% while only using 45% ish of the gpu and 80% or the ram. I'm assuming that the cpu is what my issue is, or do you guys have another idea?
sand falcon
You tried reinstalling the game?
muted anchor
First I revirified both games game caches, then I reinstalled both games, I have lowered the graphics to high bit it has still crashed the pc since
sand falcon
Did you try a memtest or similar?
muted anchor
I ran the windows memory diagnostic
It didn't give me anything
The error is usually associated with conflicting drivers but I did everything the internet told me to do to try and fix it, nothing has worked so far
sand falcon
What GPU?
muted anchor
Asus 1070ti turbo 8gb
sand falcon
And you tried completely wiping the drivers?
muted anchor
Actually no, I did a bunch of stuff but I haven't wiped them yet
I'll do that
Thanks, I had seen alot of stuff about verifying them and running the test and running other tests but that just seems so obvious can't belive I didn't think of it
sand falcon
nvidia drivers can be kinda wonky
muted anchor
Also I am completely new to building pcs aside from fixing up work pcs and putting more memory and storage is so I didn't think about this until just now but this could also just be me being stupid and over thinking it. Any chance it could be the asus gpus being used with a gigabyte mother board as I know there are gigabyte gpus
I looked on Google and I saw asus mother boards some times have issues with gigabyte gpus but didn't see anything the other way around so I assume I'm fine
buoyant flame
When putting a heat sink on a m.2 drive, do I put the thermal pad directly onto the sticker of the m.2?
sand falcon
¯_(ツ)_/¯
See what temps you get with the sticker on. Most ssd chips last longest when they sit at around 40C
buoyant flame
But the thermal pad isn't like a one time deal thing right? Its not going to stick to the drive
buoyant flame
Ya I've never had one either lol
final crest
.
buoyant flame
@celest horizon can you answer that for me real quick?
magic bough
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rYVGFG Hi, im not the greatest with pcs could someone look at this build and tell me what i should switch out to make it better. price range 1800 ty
sand falcon
This is a solid build. It looks pretty much like something we would put together
fallow hearth
Are you sure you need that fast ram
sand falcon
@magic bough Well done. Only thing I would change would be getting a bigger SSD
@fallow hearth Zen 2 will improve in performance all the way up to 3600MHz, so at this budget you might as well
fallow hearth
Oh, okay
sand falcon
The ram is a bit expensive, though, so you might be able to get the same timing+speed at a cheaper price
That being said, if you're going for looks, Tridents are pretty slick
@magic bough On second though, you might consider an x570 mobo
magic bough
What should I change? @sand falcon
next kestrel
diff mobo, more storage
sand falcon
I checked the list, the mobo you have will be able to run a 3700x as long as you don't overclock it
I'd just change to a 1TB mp.34 ssd
magic bough
I’d rather be safe though
magic bough
Nice
fallow hearth
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/JustAnOkapi/saved/LTmsXL
I am currently upgrading my build. Any suggestions? I have a $650 budget.
sand falcon
Why upgrade the mobo?
sand falcon
You're sure the mobo was the only thing that died?
sand falcon
Why not keep that mobo then?
fallow hearth
Not mine
sand falcon
Ah
fallow hearth
I was thinking of getting a z390 Mobo for the 3200 ram but I don't see it worth it
sand falcon
Are you able to find a single stick of the ram you have rn?
stoic island
Well uh
fallow hearth
No I don't have the exact model I put I don't see it anywhere
It's close the the team one I put but not exact
stoic island
In that build there's 3600cl14 ram
Don't really need that unless you want to OC it
160$ for 16gb of 3600cl14, nearly the cost of 32gb of 3600cl16 at ~180$
Yea 1tb SSD will be good
sand falcon
That's true
fallow hearth
But I was thinking about getting a second monitor that was 1440p and 120+ but they get pretty expensive
sand falcon
What's your cureent monitor?
sand falcon
So 1440p/60hz?
stoic island
I'd upgrade GPU before grabbing a 1440p 144hz monitor
sand falcon
Yeah
stoic island
1660 on 1440p isn't gonna be pretty
fallow hearth
I play rn 1440p max settings gta and it runs 70
stoic island
Exactly
sand falcon
If you only get 70fps, no point in getting a 144hz monitor
stoic island
Optimally you want 144fps
Mhm
A higher refresh rate monitor doesn't boost fps, it is just capable of showing more fps
sand falcon
Maybe around $200
fallow hearth
Okay
stoic island
There was one at 140$ last night
fallow hearth
Okay
past harness
Anyone have a build for 650$ but he already has a ssd and a hdd
sand falcon
What SSD/HDD do you have?
sand falcon
wd blue 1tb is the HDD?
warm spindle
Hi , I need help building a gaming pc
warm spindle
I'm on a xbox rn
sand falcon
It's m.2 formfactor, but it uses sata. Any other parts that can be reused?
past harness
Na he’s my friend and that’s all he has
The rest goes to his grandma for sum reason
sand falcon
Okay
past harness
Yuh he only has 650$ to spend on the rest
stoic island
List making time eh
sand falcon
That's doable
modern shadow
yeah
past harness
I would put one together but I have no power
sand falcon
modern shadow
Its your time to shine, @stoic island
sand falcon
What are the use cases for the PC?
stoic island
I have all the power
But sadly I'm eating lunch rn
sand falcon
Time zones. Just say it's time zones
celest horizon
@buoyant flame Yes, you put the thermal pad over the drive's sticker if it has one.
They're easy to remove when needed.
modern shadow
morse code next?
Also, gamer nexus posted a review on TD500 mesh
prob should watch it
idle raven
we're mailing stone tablets to each other next
sand falcon
.. -.- -. --- .-- -- --- .-. ... . -.-. --- -.. . .- -.-. - ..- .- .-.. .-.. -.--
past harness
nyone ituild fo
buoyant flame
Ok thank you @celest horizon
sand falcon
Yes
past harness
Anyone have for that
idle raven
Whatchya stuck on?
sand falcon
@past harness How soon does your friend need the PC?
grand basin
some of the fan cables arent long enough, the USB gen 3.1 gen 2 i cant find a spot to plug it in
past harness
ASAP
sand falcon
Your motherboard might not support usb 3.1.2
idle raven
Do you have your mobo's manual? It has a diagram / map
Also, you should be able to buy fan extension cables
sand falcon
@past harness Asap is kinda expensive rn. the cheap stuff is all out of stock
idle raven
Its annoying, but they're usually cheaper than 5 bucks for a pack of 2/3
stoic island
@grand basin USB 3.1 gen 2 is usually optional, some motherboards don't have one
grand basin
@sand falcon i have a msi mpg x570
still roostBOT
𝓝𝓸𝔁#5236 has been warned
grand basin
so what do i do with the cable?
sand falcon
Yup
past harness
Wait I’ll put one together for him I got a genoratir going
sand falcon
Take the http off the front @idle raven
sand falcon
@past harness Does your friend need wifi?
past harness
He Ethernet
sand falcon
idle raven
But yea, 4 pack 1 foot long, 11 bucks, lil pricey but you can find better
sand falcon
There you go
idle raven
ty ty
idle raven
Are they thicc? Or small? Is this your first time?
sand falcon
Huzzah for ethernet
stoic island
Usually in your manual it'll show the use for everything
stoic island
A good amount of the cables are either extra or stuff you won't use
sand falcon
You know what they say. RTFM
sand falcon
What the heck is up with powersupplies right now
The cheapest 80+ bronze is a 700W model
stoic island
Basically
Mwe gold or nothing
Earthwatt is gone
Rm RMx cx br are gone
NE Zen is mostly gone
stoic island
Antennas?
sand falcon
nvm, oos
stoic island
Put em out back
grand basin
Yea antennas
sand falcon
They go on the little screwy coax things on the back
stoic island
Back of the motherboard
idle raven
oh fancy board, got weefees
sand falcon
Found an mwe gold for cheapish 🙂
stoic island
When the motherboard is in the case
But you can do it at any time before you use it
grand basin
i dont see it
sand falcon
nvm, also oos
stoic island
sand falcon
Ugh everything is oos
sand falcon
Well, they're in stock, but the cheapest I could find was like $120, which is kinda prohibiting in a $650 build
How are gigabyte PSUs?
sand falcon
P-B
stoic island
Check tier list
sand falcon
Tier list isn't pinned, I lost the link
sand falcon
Where?
stoic island
Here
sand falcon
Oh
stoic island
This channel
sand falcon
I always looked for it in the PSU channel
stoic island
Lol
lime forge
something ikea yeah @analog hearth
analog hearth
Might get one now lol
sand falcon
@past harness Do you have a case already that you can use?
stoic island
Lol
sand falcon
I hate picking cases for people
sterile bluff
^
past harness
@sand falcon I put this together https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
potent prairie
I just pick the cheapest decent airflow one in my lists
sand falcon
I thought the budget was $650?
past harness
He has the ssd and the hdd and i was gone spot him anyhting he needed
sand falcon
Wait, hold on, that's one of my lists. Can you send the whole link? You're missing the bit on the end
past harness
huh
potent prairie
Lol :)
Gonna pretend that I haven't done that before
past harness
stoic island
Mobo oos
past harness
Yea
sand falcon
nzxt isn't the best case out there
past harness
Yea idk good cases
stoic island
They already own SSD and hdd
past harness
yea
potent prairie
Ah, okie
sand falcon
Do we have a case list for airflow?
stoic island
Should mark for purchased :p
Usually I just go down a list
Of like focus g
Mx330
past harness
Yea idk any good looking case with airflow
sand falcon
@past harness Do you want a side panel?
past harness
Tempered glass yes
sand falcon
Tempered glass is expensive 😦
past harness
Cougar MX330?
stoic island
Not really when mx330-g is in stock
past harness
Does have to tempered ig
stoic island
Thats 50$ with tempered glass
past harness
just he wants a glass panel
stoic island
Looks good
sand falcon
🙂
past harness
says incompatiblities
idle raven
"No Prices Available" I cant wait till that goes away next year when it all calms down 😔
sand falcon
Gigabyte should ship with the right bios. If not, just bring it into microcenter
AMD also has a "borrow a CPU" program apparently
idle raven
i heard too
past harness
soo woudl that work with the ssd and the hdd i have
sand falcon
Yup
past harness
OK
waxen cape
How do you get a pcie slot to be in its ¨showoff¨ posistion
I have 2 Asus ROG Strix RTX 2080 TIs
grand basin
Does it matter which cable i use for the CPU? theres a main one and then a thing that splits off
the one that splits off reaches easier
idle raven
I dont think it matters
but
I've never dealt with two different CPU power connections lmaoo
potent prairie
General rule of thumb, if it fits you're good.
idle raven
Theres CPU 1 8pin slot and an extra CPU 2 4 pin slot
waxen cape
How do you get a pcie slot to be in its ¨showoff¨ posistion
I have 2 Asus ROG Strix RTX 2080 TIs
idle raven
internet says the 4 pin slot is only needed for extreme overclocking
potent prairie
@waxen cape you mean a vertical position? you probably can't with dual GPUs
waxen cape
potent prairie
@idle raven Pretty much you only need it if you're considering significant OC, yes
waxen cape
I saw LTT do it
deep skiff
you can with bifurcation risers
stoic island
yea the case has to be made for sli vertical
grand basin
ok so i can use the extended one
stoic island
which like none of them do
idle raven
and as long as all 8 pins are in, you're good
deep skiff
stoic island
usually just 1 vert gpu spot
with waterblocks it's easier
since it's just 1 slot gpu you can do that easily
but with dual slot GPUs with stock cooler
just no
deep skiff
@stoic island wonder what waterblocks are gonna be like for the 3080
deep skiff
lmao thats gonna look terrible
stoic island
@deep skiff think it could be hybrid, with heatsink on the back for vram and waterblock on front for gpu die?
stoic island
yea
grand basin
Guys i plugged everything in now i need to do the GPU
how many of the side things do i remove?
grand basin
te grated
potent prairie
Depends on your video card
potent prairie
You should be able to see how many slots it will take up, but you can send a pic if you want me to help ya
of the end of the gpu
deep skiff
i think its a 3 slot card
copper mason
someone asked tis on a different platform, in case you could help:
Debating about upgrading again during the black friday coming up depending on the prices lol"```Intel motherboard will last one year of upgrades, maybe two if you're really lucky
So none exists
AMD will be moving to their new socket in a year or so though, so those motherboards should last a while. Maybe four or five years
@copper mason if your friend wants years of bacwards compatibility, wait for 5th gen ryzen
deep skiff
also basically every modern board can support rtx 3000
sand falcon
They might not be able to support full blown rtx 3000 if they do end up using pcie4, but it will support at least half bandwidth
deep skiff
ya
they're supposed to be on pcie 4.0 iirc, but you can see the 5500 xt it still works on 3.0 (but worse performance)
sand falcon
Yup
copper mason
thanks guyz 🙇♂️
sand falcon
np
weak ridge
can someone clarify if this board is either revision 1.0 or 2.0 (Because it already comes w/ 2nd gen EPYC Rome I am assuming it is revision 2.0). The description says upto 1TB mem for 2666 but this board is capable of 3200mhz (revsion 2.0)
sand falcon
You have my interest. What are you building?
weak ridge
a server for my home and business.
sand falcon
Pretty nice server
weak ridge
and personal cloud.
weak ridge
umm.. not yet. 🙂 Still scoping out the parts.
I can't tell for sure because the description says only upto 1 TB w/ 2666mhz.
sand falcon
How heavy of a load are you expecting?
weak ridge
not going to use FreeNAS but rather unRAID, with some passthrough and heavy io for graphic data.
sand falcon
It's still NAS
How much data are you looking at storing?
If you're storing a lot of data for the business, it might be worth doing an actual raid array
shadow mango
analog pulsar
btw will my cpu running at 100% the temp stops at 85C
buoyant skiff
sand falcon
Doesn't matter, just don't do S
grand basin
i chose Home
sand falcon
That will work
brittle spindle
who has the best build here
celest horizon
unraid is solid, very user friendly ui
brittle spindle
@shadow mango make sure to take your time on the cable management...I didnt do so well and now I can't close my side panel all the way or else it will interfere with the 24 pin power connector and my pc wont turn on
sand falcon
I'll enter best build
fast dust
I have a budget build that I think looks pretty gangsta
Just to show people that you can have a pretty PC even on a tight budget
brittle spindle
I will send a pic of my build in the chat
fast dust
brittle spindle
mine is on Joker theme rn
sand falcon
400 CPU cores, 6TB ram, 8x nvidia tesla P100 GPUs, Couple dozen terabytes SSD, I forget how much HDD
Can you beat that?
deep skiff
yeah I got a 3080 ti
brittle spindle
nah bro u got the whole universe downloaded on ur pc
cursive wharf
GA100 GPUs?
brittle spindle
no but seriously
sand falcon
Also 10gbps cable to externel connection, 40gig or some such internal
@cursive wharf They're an older generation GPU
cursive wharf
Just buy a Nvidia DGX or whatever it's called
brittle spindle
okay my build is in the #build-pics channel
brittle spindle
cool
fast dust
@brittle spindle that’s one secksy build
brittle spindle
thank you
it was my first
the only problem is the pci-e cables-they were an awkward fit into the case to try and hide them
analog pulsar
Okay so you guys saw my cpu....well my last cpu I had 4C/4TH so it was able to stay under 80C folding but now I have a 6C/12TH and now it’s at 90C and rising I have the stock cooler should I put my other cooler that’s hard to get out back on or kee the easy cooler in and deal with hot temps until I can get a small Efficient cooler in the future Bc when it gets pass 90C it’s starts to climb slow slow slow
sand falcon
What's the other cooler?
brittle spindle
specs are attached to the build pic @sand falcon
yeah what is the otheer cooler?
thats pretty high temp
brittle spindle
okay cool
send a pic of top of case
But first move the lasagna
lol
and the beefaroni
analog pulsar
brittle spindle
okay @analog pulsar maybe consider buying the Kraken X62 AIO if you get enough money ion the future. For now, I recommend going on ebay to get the AMD wraith stealth RGB cooler
brittle spindle
also, move that stuff off the top of your case to allow more intake/exhalation
stoic island
@analog pulsar what cpu
brittle spindle
howevere its installed
yeah what cpu
because then that determines the cooler u get
stoic island
wraith stealth is the worst cooler out of all the stock coolers lol
stoic island
that's wraith prism
analog pulsar
My cooler is bad
fast dust
overpriced
analog pulsar
It’s $50
stoic island
I would just get a gammaxx 400 or something similar
brittle spindle
I meant Wraith Prism I just forgot the name
stoic island
but what CPU do you have
deep skiff
for $50 scythe is <3
stoic island
all you gave us is 6c12t
if it's 3600, use stock cooler :P
wraith spire works fine
brittle spindle
yeah
stoic island
better than whatever that was in the pic
fast dust
@analog pulsar you could get something like this https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Freezer-Multi-Compatible-Compatible-Pre-Applied/dp/B084P82HRY
brittle spindle
I have the wraith prism in my closet because I installed the h100i Platinum SE
fast dust
i have a stealth on my dresser 
analog pulsar
Yes but I want AMD cooler
analog pulsar
The I want the max stock cooler with leds
brittle spindle
wraith prism
sand falcon
Weren't you the one that touched the thermal paste?
analog pulsar
@sand falcon we are not going to talk about that drop subject
sand falcon
That could explain bad thermal performance though
analog pulsar
No it’s fine
sand falcon
90C?
analog pulsar
I barely touched it
stoic island
ignore the touching thermal paste part
brittle spindle
yeah temps dont usually climb that high unless there is no thermal paste or if you have your vents blocked like you did
analog pulsar
But it’s also at 100% on all threads and cores
sand falcon
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I'll pull up the build pics
See if there are any airflow issues that could make things better
brittle spindle
yeah @analog pulsar had Chef Boyardee and a trophy blocking the top vents
@sand falcon
analog pulsar
@brittle spindle nothing goes up there it’s just nothing there to pull air up
sand falcon
From the pics, I'm seeing 3 140mm fans on intake and one 80mm fan exhaust. Is that correct?
brittle spindle
for now, if you could, get the wraith prism or just take your tempered glass panel off to basically have an open air pc
stoic island
Wait yea try temps without the side panel
that'll tell you if you need more airflow in the case or just a better cpu cooler
sand falcon
Cable management is a bit rough, but shouldn't be so bad as to affect airflow
brittle spindle
how do I check CPU temp without going into BIOS?
mine is pretty low I know for a fact
sand falcon
You have to download some sort of hardware monitor app
tribal orchid
Just use a cpu heat program
deep skiff
hwinfo64 is pretty good
stoic island
Ryzen master does show temps
brittle spindle
I mean I dont have a problem with my temps at all bc of my aio
yeah i have ryzen master lemme check that
sand falcon
Welp, I'm currently at 0.28% CPU load and 45C
stoic island
eh I'm chillin at like 46c rn
brittle spindle
which tab is how much its running
sand falcon
0.18%, 38C
brittle spindle
like what %its running at
stoic island
task manager
sand falcon
0.00% CPU 🙂
little osprey
38% 29C
sand falcon
seesh, Windows is hungry
brittle spindle
yeah all my fans are on the lowest possible speed
little osprey
So are mine
brittle spindle
and I'm at 52 degrees
stoic island
you can have them off :P
brittle spindle
lol
stoic island
I think with my current fan curve they're at 20%
sand falcon
Okay, I'll open some things up see where it goes
stoic island
until I reach 60c cu
stoic island
my room is like 27c lol
sand falcon
Okay, steam (updating rn 😦 ), firefox, vs code, terminal, discord, and an email client
4% CPU, 48C
brittle spindle
what does this mean? What's the problem?
brittle spindle
they are working fine but ICUE isnt letting me see them
sand falcon
icue is fun
stoic island
no software is best software
brittle spindle
Synapse is much better, even tho ICUE has more functions for many more products that Razer doesnt sell-like RAM
gloomy goblet
anyone know when the msi b450 tomahawk max will be restocked on the newegg website?
potent prairie
iCue is pretty good but has bugs, particularly with the ram
@brittle spindle If you force update the ram it should be controllable again.
brittle spindle
thanks thats whbat I thought my fans just start running really hard when I do that
@potent prairie
stoic island
?
potent prairie
Oh, that's odd
grand basin
what do i do if my PC isnt picking up my wifi
its picking up every other wifi on the block except for mine
brittle spindle
re install the drivers
stoic island
lol what
brittle spindle
check the router then
stoic island
try installing drivers
grand basin
The router is working
brittle spindle
check to see if you have it disconnected-like you turned off automatically connect
grand basin
i installed all the MSI ones for my mobo and im doing Geforce experience
What do you mean? @brittle spindle
stoic island
did you install the wifi drivers
stoic island
Prtsc
little leaf
Do you know if your wifi card supports the wifi that your adapter uses?
stoic island
PrtSc
little leaf
windows + prtsc
stoic island
just prtsc works
grand basin
where is prtsc??
stoic island
do you have a 60% keyboard or
no just prtsc works
Prtsc just doesn't do an animation or anything
top right of keyboard basically
left of scrlk
grand basin
where does it go when i click it?
grand basin
whats paste on windows?
stoic island
control v
brittle spindle
ctrl v
stoic island
wut
stoic island
lol
grand basin
so about wifi
how can i fix that cause im tryna uise my wifi
does just installing them work or do i have to click on them and do something
anyone know
little osprey
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WmgBRk Hows this look? I need the storage and i want to side mount the GPU
stoic island
get something different than bx500 :P
little osprey
Suggestion?
little osprey
well im not buying it now, i was gonna get it in a few months when everything comes back
stoic island
Either get qvo 2tb at 250$ or sabrent rocket 2tb at 280$
bx500 is slow and dramless
little osprey
Sabrent rocket Q or non Q
stoic island
non q
little osprey
Ill prob go with the qvo for the price
stoic island
Sabrent rocket is a lot faster if you need lots of speed
little osprey
Worth the price difference faster?
stoic island
depends on what you do
if you're gonna be transfering a lot of large files around, hell yea
little osprey
gaming, streaming and yeah, transfering files lol
stoic island
it's like 500mb/s r/w compared to 3000mb/s r/w
little osprey
does it need a heatsink or anything/
little osprey
kk anything else that i should change?
i was kinda goin for the motherboard to be the same brand as the gpu
stoic island
..
little osprey
dont ask
stoic island
someone mentioned the aorus not having great cooling
buoyant flame
I've heard it has good cooling
little osprey
thonk
buoyant flame
deep skiff
lol I’d just buy the cheapest that isn’t a evga black or blower
stoic island
EVGA KO is good
little osprey
i heared the aorus had decent cooling
it has a good boost clock too
so if ps will be out in fall, and lisa says rdna2 pc will be out before consoles, should they not be out like.. now? am i missing something?
stoic island
dunno
deep skiff
i thought the consoles were supposed to be our for holidays
drifting timber
hi
sand falcon
So what can we help you with today?
stoic island
What's the reason for a pcie 4.0 drive?
stoic island
Motherboard and GPU are out of stock
sand falcon
When are you looking at getting the build?
stoic island
That has very little impact in real world applications bar large file transfers
Game load times, it would be like 0.1 second difference, if any at all
sand falcon
That's true. Random read/writes are roughly the same from one to the other.
stoic island
Windows startup, same thing
drifting timber
within next 4 weeks hopefully
sand falcon
What will your use case be?
drifting timber
i was able to find all components except the case
sand falcon
Sorry, what will you be doing with the computer?
sand falcon
Yeah, not the best wording on my part 🙂
sacred obsidian
that is an expensive pc 
stoic island
yea
sand falcon
vms could theoretically benefit from the faster sequetial r/w
sand falcon
Wait, do you have parts from the last build still then?
drifting timber
im on my last biuld
drifting timber
850
stoic island
(I mean why do you have to have 32gb per module?)
sand falcon
Can you reuse it the old one?
sand falcon
Okay
stoic island
Because there are no 3600mhzcl16 32gb trident z neo sticks
sand falcon
?
stoic island
I'd rather get 4x16gb 3600mhzcl16 than 2x32gb 3600mhzcl16
sand falcon
Lower memory latency
sand falcon
Yeah, I'd go for the 4x16 over 2x32
drifting timber
hmm
stoic island
also no real reason for upgradability
sand falcon
You probably could drop the wattage on the PSU
stoic island
since moving to ddr5 next year
Didn't you say you're reusing your PSU @drifting timber
sand falcon
I did
sand falcon
750W maybe?
drifting timber
maybe
sand falcon
I'd consider using a gen3 ssd and buying an extra hdd witht the spare money
sand falcon
Trust me, vms can fill up a TB fast
brittle spindle
Whats the minimum requirements to run Crysis
stoic island
which one
brittle spindle
The most demanding one
stoic island
the remake specs arn't out yet afaik
brittle spindle
The most demanding game
sand falcon
General rule of thumb for crysis is that the recommended components specs cost about $200 more than you can afford 😢