#building-and-recc-chat | Newegg | Page 542

mortal rampart May 31, 2020, 3:16 AM

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a 5600xt

glass laurel May 31, 2020, 3:16 AM

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Alright tyy

mortal rampart May 31, 2020, 3:16 AM

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yeah prolly the best place to start

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not unless you wanna wait for new parts later this year

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 3:16 AM

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Do you use the GPU for anything besides games?

mortal rampart May 31, 2020, 3:17 AM

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if not

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amd>>>

glass laurel May 31, 2020, 3:17 AM

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Yeah I was gonna wait a little bit before I did it

mortal rampart May 31, 2020, 3:17 AM

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okok

glass laurel May 31, 2020, 3:17 AM

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No just games pretty much

mortal rampart May 31, 2020, 3:17 AM

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yeah the new cards should be pretty sexy

glass laurel May 31, 2020, 3:17 AM

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when is it suppose to come out?

mortal rampart May 31, 2020, 3:18 AM

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and that cpu is just fine

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uhmm sept.

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i believe

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 3:18 AM

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@thick gorge Wraith is a decent cooler. Just watch the thermals and you should be fine. AMD is pretty good about managing its speeds when it gets hot

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Sept is the current guess, yeah

mortal rampart May 31, 2020, 3:18 AM

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yeah the only thing i might change is your case

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just to get some more air in there

glass laurel May 31, 2020, 3:18 AM

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Ok

mortal rampart May 31, 2020, 3:18 AM

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but if your stuff doesnt get too hot as it is then i think you'll be good

glass laurel May 31, 2020, 3:19 AM

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Wait wrong person

mortal rampart May 31, 2020, 3:19 AM

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lmao

glass laurel May 31, 2020, 3:19 AM

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Lol

atomic oasis May 31, 2020, 4:17 AM

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quick question.. with new build and OS... should I transfer the windows key? buy brand new OS, or the key for OS?

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 4:20 AM

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Try transferring the key first, that's cheaper

still roostBOT May 31, 2020, 4:40 AM

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limpid roost May 31, 2020, 4:50 AM

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mmk but i was wondering what i should upgrade first on the new pc i bought from a friend, board is a b450 pro4 with a ryzen 3 2200g, corsair vengeance 16gb 3000MHz, gtx 2060

modern shadow May 31, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Prob cpu

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@limpid roost what are u using the pc 4

limpid roost May 31, 2020, 4:57 AM

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mostly games i also multi task random other things

little osprey May 31, 2020, 5:05 AM

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can someone help me

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Yes

wanton crystal May 31, 2020, 5:14 AM

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pcpartpicker.com/list/JT8Bp8 opinions please. The MOBO will be b550 just did it for price. The CPU is subject to change based on the new Ryzen and same with the GPU but overall if you take out the new releases what do yall think?

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Going for black+white look?

wanton crystal May 31, 2020, 5:17 AM

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My goal is actually all white, I planned to do some light painting on a few things and spending a little bit more getting white cables etc

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Okay. mobo probably would be best not to paint

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GPU paint away

wanton crystal May 31, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Yea lol I have watched some videos on MOBO painting and man its a chore ill look for one with white accents if i can find one

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:20 AM

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👍

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This looks like a pretty solid build though. Only strange thing I see is the two separate nvme drives. Any particular reasoning there?

plain gorge May 31, 2020, 5:21 AM

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So i plan on getting myself the ryzen 9 3900x + the rtx 2070 super and was wondering how vr ran on them?

cursive wharf May 31, 2020, 5:22 AM

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What is the build for?

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Proabably vr

cursive wharf May 31, 2020, 5:22 AM

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but then why that CPU/GPU combo

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Cause you can

cursive wharf May 31, 2020, 5:23 AM

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I'd hope for some development stuff if you're getting 3900x/2070S

plain gorge May 31, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Not good combo xD?

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Very goood combo. Hei is saying that it's too powerful

plain gorge May 31, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Ahhh I see

cursive wharf May 31, 2020, 5:23 AM

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You'd get more from a 3600/2080S

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:23 AM

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^

cursive wharf May 31, 2020, 5:24 AM

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Too much money poured into CPU for a gaming build

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:24 AM

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3900x is only 400, but sure

cursive wharf May 31, 2020, 5:24 AM

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3600 is also $190 or so

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while 3900x is like $420

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2070S is $500 and 2080S is $700

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:25 AM

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They cut it down with the 10th gens

plain gorge May 31, 2020, 5:25 AM

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I am just getting some good specs so i wont need to upgrade for another like 5 years

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:25 AM

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If you want that, wait for the xt chips

cursive wharf May 31, 2020, 5:26 AM

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I mean, properly OCed 10600k is a chart topper

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question of whether it beats XT chips or not rn

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:26 AM

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3600xt beats it hands down

cursive wharf May 31, 2020, 5:26 AM

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10600k with core/mesh ratio/cache OC does a lot better then you'd expect

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So again, kinda questionable

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:27 AM

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That's a more involved overclock

plain gorge May 31, 2020, 5:27 AM

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What about a I9-9900k rtx 2070 build?

cursive wharf May 31, 2020, 5:27 AM

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Only Intel chip worth buying if z490 boards dont ruin it, or the XT chips

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:28 AM

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10600k is $300?

cursive wharf May 31, 2020, 5:28 AM

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no, same primary issue. To much money on CPU for a gaming build

plain gorge May 31, 2020, 5:28 AM

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Then what would you go with? 😂

cursive wharf May 31, 2020, 5:28 AM

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I expect 10600k to maybe replace 3700x gaming builds

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if everything goes in Intel's favour

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which is unlikely, but possible

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:29 AM

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Games are moving towards being able to use multi threaded workloads. VR especially. 10600k is really not that great imo

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3900x is probably too much though

plain gorge May 31, 2020, 5:30 AM

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So you think 3900x is overkill?

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😂

cursive wharf May 31, 2020, 5:30 AM

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yes, but an 6c to an 8c wont do too much given a 2080Ti

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even in the future

little osprey May 31, 2020, 5:30 AM

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sorry to interrupt but i have a question

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:30 AM

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Depends on the load

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Sure thing Cow

little osprey May 31, 2020, 5:31 AM

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do you guys know when the msi B450 tomahawk MAX is going to be back in stock

plain gorge May 31, 2020, 5:31 AM

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What if i went with a Ryzen 7 3800x and a 2070 super?

cursive wharf May 31, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Also lows are kinda going to stay kinda meh on current gen Ryzen due to CCX to CCX info transfer and if 3900x or better then chiplet to chiplet transfer when trying to utilize all the cores.

plain gorge May 31, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Less overkill and a bit cheaper

cursive wharf May 31, 2020, 5:32 AM

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3600/2080S

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same price as first option given

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if you want to push budget, 3700x/2080S... Maybe but probs not cuz bad pricing most likely is 10600k/2080S

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Also needing to OC well is other issue

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Zen3 hype for making one CCX per chiplet tho

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:33 AM

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From what I've seen zen2 has better and more consistant core to core latencies than intel chips. Not sure about 10th gen though

cursive wharf May 31, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Wonder if refresh would do one CCX per chiplet. I have barely looked into the refresh info

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Refresh info doesn't really exist yet. I'm guessing that they'll stay at two ccx per ccd. Changing that would be a major architectural rework

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I would probably go with 3600x or 3700x from the amd side. vr should be pushing multi threaded tracking here shortly, so that would be a boost

cursive wharf May 31, 2020, 5:38 AM

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3600 to 3600x is a waste of money tho, esp with PBO

wanton crystal May 31, 2020, 5:38 AM

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there is some refresh info.. how legit it is remains to be seen www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen-9-3900XT-and-Ryzen-5-3600XT-benchmarks-leak-Comet-Lake-S-Core-i9-10900K-and-Core-i7-10700K-take-a-single-core-beating-despite-500-MHz-higher-clockspeed.466823.0.html

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:39 AM

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Doesn't 3600 have two ccd's though?

cursive wharf May 31, 2020, 5:39 AM

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3600 and 3600x are the same but slight clock differences last I checked

plain gorge May 31, 2020, 5:39 AM

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So Hei do you think if i got the 7 3800x with the 2080 would be a better option?

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Then the 9 3900x with the 2070?

cursive wharf May 31, 2020, 5:40 AM

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I mean yeah, but a 3800x and 3700x are basically the same but one is pricier for barely any gain

plain gorge May 31, 2020, 5:41 AM

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I see

cursive wharf May 31, 2020, 5:41 AM

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same as 3600 to 3600x

wanton crystal May 31, 2020, 5:41 AM

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If you can wait a bit the 3070 and 3080 are rumored to be coming out in september

cursive wharf May 31, 2020, 5:42 AM

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Never seen any real perf differences between "decently" binned to "greatly" binned AMD chips, so I assume it's one ccd

wanton crystal May 31, 2020, 5:42 AM

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if the rumors are true they perform much better but we will have to wait and see

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:42 AM

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Just checked. Both 3600 and 3600x are both on a single CCD with one dead core per ccx

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Server Ampere is hugely more powerful. The main thing is whether the gains in compute translate to gains in game

plain gorge May 31, 2020, 5:43 AM

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And let's say I did go with the Ryzen 7 3700x and the rtx 2080 how would that handle vr... I do plan on spending some cash on a headset soon and was wondering how it ran?

cursive wharf May 31, 2020, 5:43 AM

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yep, raw compute power isnt always rasterization perf. Seen that with Vega

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great compute perf with meh rasterization perf

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:44 AM

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That is a more or less top notch system T-Bag

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Oh

cursive wharf May 31, 2020, 5:44 AM

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Also just a note, 2080 Super

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not 2080 non Super

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:44 AM

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Question though: Are you going to be streaming your vr?

noble edge May 31, 2020, 6:44 AM

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Can someone join chat?

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General 1

cold sorrel May 31, 2020, 10:59 AM

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Looking forward to when the reviews for the b550 motherboards start rolling in

cursive wharf May 31, 2020, 11:42 AM

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Idk about reviews. Never seem to consider things like amount of M2 slots too much, sound/LAN chip, WiFi, etc. All their recommendations are basically just from VRMs. Can say that based off of how the Tomahawk is somehow still so popular

cold sorrel May 31, 2020, 12:00 PM

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Yeah... I'm not interested in overclocking at all. I just want to know it's not going to catch fire

hidden relic May 31, 2020, 3:55 PM

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anyone have any thoughts on this, trying to keep the cost to 600 or less. ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/TgwsFG

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would like to swap the ryzen 5 for the ryzen 3 3300x but not seeing availability and want to build before june 26 (kids bday).

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 4:04 PM

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@hidden relic That's a pretty solid build for the budget. If you're on a schedule like that, I would go ahead and buy the parts you're sure of now. Things are going in and out of stock all over the place right now

hidden relic May 31, 2020, 4:04 PM

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thanks bob. just looking for affirmation before i pull the trigger. got parts in cart. case says 1 left

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psu says ships 13th of june...

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Any other PSU's around?

hidden relic May 31, 2020, 4:05 PM

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new egg has nonmodular corsair...

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for a few more dollars

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 4:05 PM

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If it will get there on time might be worth it

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So you have an older ryzen or athalon processor around?

hidden relic May 31, 2020, 4:06 PM

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no why?

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 4:06 PM

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The motherboard might need a bios update

hidden relic May 31, 2020, 4:06 PM

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i have an fx6300 in a 7 year old build i am giving to my nephew

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oh i saw that. i'm getting the ryzen and mobo as a bundle from microcenter...so hoping it will be good to roll

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 4:07 PM

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That should be fine then

hidden relic May 31, 2020, 4:07 PM

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i want to do the ryzen 3 3300x but don't want to wait...

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and be sol to close to his bday

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 4:07 PM

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How much cheaper is the 3300?

hidden relic May 31, 2020, 4:08 PM

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$30-40

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none available. preorder only that i've found

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launch date says 5/2020...

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Yeah

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You might be able to get one but it would be cutting it close

hidden relic May 31, 2020, 4:09 PM

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yah...i'm going to pull the trigger now. get this in the works. thanks for the chat

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 4:10 PM

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No problem. Best of luck!

hidden relic May 31, 2020, 4:45 PM

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done and done. case showed one left...now none. will ship on june 14. psu on 13. lets hope i'm not heading to microcenter to drop another $100 than what i budgeted to replace them at the last minute

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Think i'll video/stream the kid and I building it. hoping he will enjoy it.

high coyote May 31, 2020, 4:58 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DG4TKQP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I bought this for my new fish tank build lmao

waxen finch May 31, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Just copped a new pc case

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:33 PM

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You can get a pretty good pc for that price. Will you be doing any streaming or video editing too?

thin sentinel May 31, 2020, 5:33 PM

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That's about my budget too

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Cool 🙂

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Will you just be doing gaming, or will you be doing any other tasks with the computer?

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Also, how long are you two willing to wait for your builds?

hearty depot May 31, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Same budget as taxes and xennu. I’ll be gaming and streaming, possibly video edit down the road. I don’t plan to start building til early 2021

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:52 PM

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@hearty depot You'll want AMD then, probably zen3 sicne it should be out by then

fiery cave May 31, 2020, 5:56 PM

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@sand falcon just gaming and I don’t mind waiting a couple of months

signal drift May 31, 2020, 5:57 PM

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has anyone u;sed the cougar vortex fans for radiators, how quiet do they sound

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im kinda figuring you gotta add like 10db to the sound profile they state as stock when a radiator is involved

sand falcon May 31, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Just gaming probably would be probably AMD in a few months

waxen finch May 31, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Does anyone know a fan splitter that has all 4pin not 3pins? Because I have 6 ll120mm fans and I’m planning on adding more once I get my 011 Dynamic

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Ping me if u do

signal drift May 31, 2020, 5:59 PM

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yea noctua comes with 4pin splitters

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you may have to find ones online

waxen finch May 31, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Just 4pins no 3pins?

signal drift May 31, 2020, 6:01 PM

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@waxen finch i msged u

past umbra May 31, 2020, 6:07 PM

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I have like 250 dollars to spend on computer stuff and I want WiFi and Bluetooth since my mobo didn’t come with it. Should I buy a whole new motherboard (I currently have a tomahawk b450 max) or should I buy an expansion usb or pcie card and spend the rest on other stuff

waxen finch May 31, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Just get a usb WiFi adapter

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They are like 10 bucks at most

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And just spend the rest on the stuff on upgrading parts

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Like your gpu or cpu

mortal rampart May 31, 2020, 6:10 PM

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@past umbra what are your specs rn

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as in like the gpu and cpu

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i would guess you're already on ryzen 3000 series with that tomahawk max

past umbra May 31, 2020, 6:12 PM

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2060 super and r5 3600

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@mortal rampart

crude otter May 31, 2020, 6:13 PM

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so should i wait for the rtx 30 series or should i just get a 2080 ti

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i want a very good card to run the new flight sim coming out

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mfs202

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graphics look like this:

viral ore May 31, 2020, 6:14 PM

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well, i think 30xx cards are supposed to be out before it releases

crude otter May 31, 2020, 6:15 PM

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📎 KittyHawk_E3_withLogo_002-1.jpg

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thats how it looks

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so i think i need to rlly good card to run that

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i also want a pc to last me a long time

viral ore May 31, 2020, 6:16 PM

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that depends, just because the game looks good doesnt mean you need a good card to run it

crude otter May 31, 2020, 6:16 PM

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but i also play r6 battlefield and insurgency

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i play r6 the most

viral ore May 31, 2020, 6:16 PM

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wait for MS to list the minimum requirements

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i also play r6 the most lol

crude otter May 31, 2020, 6:16 PM

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they listed them already

viral ore May 31, 2020, 6:16 PM

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did they?

crude otter May 31, 2020, 6:17 PM

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yes

viral ore May 31, 2020, 6:17 PM

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i mustve missed it

crude otter May 31, 2020, 6:17 PM

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let me get them

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CPU: Ryzen 3 1200 / Intel i5-4460
GPU: Radeon RX 570 / NVIDIA GTX 770
VRAM: 2GB
RAM: 8GB
HDD: 150GB
Bandwidth: 5 Mbps

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those r the min

viral ore May 31, 2020, 6:17 PM

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oh, i know of the 150gb space requirement

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the other stuff i didnt

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if course, im sure you can turn the graphics WAY down

crude otter May 31, 2020, 6:18 PM

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so the pc i have surpasses the min specs

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i have rx 580

viral ore May 31, 2020, 6:18 PM

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im willing to bet it will hit 4k 60fps

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on a 2080ti

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probably a 2080 super as well

crude otter May 31, 2020, 6:18 PM

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thats the ideal specs as well

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CPU: Ryzen 7 Pro 2700X / Intel i7-9800X
GPU: Radeon VII / Nvidia RTX 2080
VRAM: 8GB
RAM: 32GB
HDD: 150GB (SSD recommended)
Bandwidth: 50 Mbps

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those are the ideal

viral ore May 31, 2020, 6:19 PM

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oh, ya know i did see all of this last week lol

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im so forgetful

crude otter May 31, 2020, 6:19 PM

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well i am gonna get the new intel cpu

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the intel i7 10th gen is what i am thinking

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10900 k i think

viral ore May 31, 2020, 6:20 PM

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im sure you can wait a few days after release, because people on youtube will be benchmarking the game, so you can see how it runs

crude otter May 31, 2020, 6:20 PM

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ok

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well its already in alpha

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the beta is coming soon

viral ore May 31, 2020, 6:20 PM

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yeah, if you wanna go 10th gen intel, your gonna wanna wait a month or two at least for the prices to go down

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well, i mean release

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not alpha or beta

crude otter May 31, 2020, 6:20 PM

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ok

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i am gonna get my pc in august

viral ore May 31, 2020, 6:21 PM

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lots of things can change between now and release

crude otter May 31, 2020, 6:21 PM

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and build it (1st time building)

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lol

viral ore May 31, 2020, 6:21 PM

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youll do fine

crude otter May 31, 2020, 6:21 PM

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hopefully

viral ore May 31, 2020, 6:21 PM

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its not that difficult

crude otter May 31, 2020, 6:21 PM

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well last time i tried to install ram into my current pc i broke it

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hahahha

viral ore May 31, 2020, 6:21 PM

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F

crude otter May 31, 2020, 6:22 PM

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but the thing is

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my pc is rlly hard to open

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and i didnt know how to open it

viral ore May 31, 2020, 6:22 PM

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i assume its a prebuild

crude otter May 31, 2020, 6:22 PM

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yes

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a dell xps

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a very bad pc

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you cant rlly install stuff in there its rlly hard

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but this time i will do it and i will do it good and i will be more attentive

viral ore May 31, 2020, 6:23 PM

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lol

crude otter May 31, 2020, 6:23 PM

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i want to build it so that i can learn

viral ore May 31, 2020, 6:23 PM

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well, by august or september, hopefully pc components are more available and cheaper than they are now

crude otter May 31, 2020, 6:23 PM

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yeah

little osprey May 31, 2020, 6:24 PM

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Hey all

viral ore May 31, 2020, 6:24 PM

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something to note is that thats the time frame that Ryzen 4000 cpus and Nvidia 3000 gpus will launch

crude otter May 31, 2020, 6:24 PM

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ok

viral ore May 31, 2020, 6:24 PM

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so when you get ready to order you will have new components to chose from

crude otter May 31, 2020, 6:25 PM

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yes

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i already have an idea of what i will get

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the only thing is the psu the cooler and the ssd

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i want ssd only in my pc

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motherboard i know what to get

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cpu and gpu i have an idea

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case i am not sure

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and yeah

viral ore May 31, 2020, 6:33 PM

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by september that will all change

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so dont think about it too much rn

crude otter May 31, 2020, 6:35 PM

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ok

zealous epoch May 31, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Ryzen 3 3300 or 5 1600 for a B450 gamer PC?

viral ore May 31, 2020, 6:43 PM

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3300x

signal drift May 31, 2020, 6:52 PM

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that and they are all out of stock right now sassy

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for 10900k hah

exotic lichen May 31, 2020, 6:58 PM

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What's the best duo with a 3700x

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Bottleneck calculator says a 2080 super will bottleneck with it but I'm not sure if it is reliable

fast dust May 31, 2020, 7:14 PM

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2080s will be a good pair with the 3700x

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Also bottleneck calculator is not a very good tool to use. Inconsistent

past umbra May 31, 2020, 7:42 PM

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I’m looking for a motherboard to replace my tomahawk b450 max. I want it to have onboard WiFi and at least 2 m.2 slots and atx form factor. Any suggestions?

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I have a Ryzen 5 3600

fast dust May 31, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Why don’t you just get a WiFi adapter for your current motherboard?

past umbra May 31, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Would that be better?

fast dust May 31, 2020, 7:44 PM

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It’d be miles cheaper

past umbra May 31, 2020, 7:44 PM

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True

fast dust May 31, 2020, 7:44 PM

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And your motherboard is already pretty good

past umbra May 31, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Any suggestions on an adapter

fast dust May 31, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Look at PCIe adapters on Newegg

past umbra May 31, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Would pcie be better than a usb

fast dust May 31, 2020, 7:46 PM

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PCIe is more expensive but more stable than USB

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I have a USB adapter and it works fine but every now and then I’ll have to restart my PC because of some weird problem on it

past umbra May 31, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Ok thanks I’ll check it out

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https://www.newegg.com/tp-link-archer-tx3000e-pci-express/p/N82E16833704507

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@fast dust what do you think about this

fast dust May 31, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Looks pretty decent

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It is back ordered

past umbra May 31, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Crap I didn’t see that

fast dust May 31, 2020, 7:50 PM

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And btw I don’t know too much about WiFi adapters so I’d check other reviews and stuff

past umbra May 31, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Ok

sterile trout May 31, 2020, 8:33 PM

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When I put 16 gb of ram in my Pc it works and turns on fine. When I put in 32 the pc lights up and seems to be working, but my monitor won’t turn on and display my computer. Does that mean that my pc can’t handle 32gb of ram?

fast dust May 31, 2020, 8:33 PM

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What motherboard and CPU do you have?

sterile trout May 31, 2020, 8:34 PM

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I have an Alienware aurora r6 board and an icore 7 7th gen

fast dust May 31, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Oh hm

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Yeah the board might only support up to 16gb

sterile trout May 31, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Oh Ight

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Thanks for the help

fast dust May 31, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Yeah no problem

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Take care

woven crypt May 31, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Anyone know what this cable is?

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sudden turret May 31, 2020, 8:55 PM

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usb-c

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 8:58 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-3600/p/N82E16819113569

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would you be able to afford this?

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this would be a better choice over the 3300G

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its a solid cpu

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comes with fan also

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 8:59 PM

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As of now I'm dirt poor working a minimum wage job just graduated high school and gotta pay off a car XD

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 8:59 PM

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ah

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 8:59 PM

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But I do got an older brother that still owes me some favors lmao

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So he might help a little

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:00 PM

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but the another reason against that APU is because they tend to run hotter

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because they have gpu and cpu in it

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:00 PM

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See I'm not the best with building pc's I've never built one before or planned on doing it

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I was gonna buy a pre built one but plans changed and people said building one is cheaper

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:01 PM

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its easy to build a pc

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have you watched any build videos?

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:02 PM

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Yeah I watch linus tech tips

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:02 PM

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if I can find a cheaper PSU we could put that budget money towards the cpu

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cuz the one u sent was a white psu for $90

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:02 PM

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PSU: EVGA 600 W1, 80+ WHITE 600W, $90

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3200G Processor (4C/4T, 6 MB cache, 4.0 GHz Max Boost) with Radeon Vega 8 Graphics, $90

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3000 MHz DDR4 DRAM Desktop Gaming Memory Single 16GB CL15 BLS16G4D30AESC (White), $80

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:03 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/evga-500-bq-110-bq-0500-k1-500w/p/N82E16817438101?Description=500W&cm_re=500W-_-17-438-101-_-Product

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:03 PM

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So get a cheaper psu?

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:03 PM

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a 500W should be enough

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this one is like $65

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but $5 shipping

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$7*

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and its bronze and not white

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white is the worst

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:03 PM

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Why XD

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I think white is nice lmao

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Besides the point

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:04 PM

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it isnt as efficient and wont last as long as a bronze

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:04 PM

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True

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:05 PM

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so thats about $20 less

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and you already have the ram right?

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Yeah

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16

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:05 PM

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in 1 stick?

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:05 PM

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8x2

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16 in all

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:05 PM

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or is it 8x2

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ah

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duel channel is better for ram

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which that is

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now about that mobo

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Which if I get a motherboard that has 4 slots I could get 2 more whenever needed

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:06 PM

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what was the mobo you were looking at?

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yep

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send me a link to it

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the mobo

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Motherboard: Asus Prime B450M-A/CSM AMD Ryzen 2 AM4 DDR4 HDMI DVI VGA M.2 USB 3.1 Gen2 mATX Motherboard, $80

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:06 PM

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just easier

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Hold on

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:07 PM

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you might need to flash the bios in order to use a 3600

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:07 PM

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Wdym

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https://www.amazon.com/Ryzen-Gaming-Motherboard-B450M-CSM/dp/B07FKV5HWJ/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Asus+Prime+B450M-A%2FCSM+AMD+Ryzen+2+AM4+DDR4+HDMI+DVI+VGA+M.2+USB+3.1+Gen2+mATX+Motherboard&qid=1590959245&sr=8-1

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Which that mb looks like it has 4 slots

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For ram

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:08 PM

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because it may only come with support for the older cpus but flashing the bios shouldnt be too hard

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and yup it has 4 slots

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it says it supports 3rd gen

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so maybe you wont need to flash the bios

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:10 PM

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So the mobo is good

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:10 PM

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it looks good

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kinda on the lower end but

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should be fine

woven crypt May 31, 2020, 9:11 PM

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usb-c
@sudden turret Not seeing anywhere in the motherboard manual where it would be connected

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:11 PM

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@woven crypt some mobos dont support it

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:12 PM

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So I need a new mobo, psu, and cpu

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Just for that ram

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:12 PM

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basically... oof

woven crypt May 31, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Thankfully it isn't necessary

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Yikes

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:12 PM

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idk if a new psu will fit in your case

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your current case

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same for the mobo

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idk if the stands will line up

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:13 PM

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My current case is an hp pavilion

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But I wanna get a new one

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:13 PM

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a cheap one is the NZXT H510

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its like $60

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Will it fit everything?

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:14 PM

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it should

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https://www.amazon.com/NZXT-H510-Management-Water-Cooling-Construction/dp/B07TC76671/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=H510&qid=1590959639&sr=8-1

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$70

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but only white ;/

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case is honestly preference

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@forest salmon

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Yikes

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will the hp pavillion fit everything?

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:17 PM

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idk

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:17 PM

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hm

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:17 PM

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you can buy it all and see if it fits lol

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and if not then order a case idk

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you can still run a pc out of a case but its just better if it has a case

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:18 PM

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yeah ima get the parts then see if it fits

crystal quest May 31, 2020, 9:18 PM

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toll free i can’t find your pcpartpicker

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can i see?

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:18 PM

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i have a list hold on

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:19 PM

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did u update the list?

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:19 PM

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PSU: EVGA 600 W1, 80+ WHITE 600W, $90

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3200G Processor (4C/4T, 6 MB cache, 4.0 GHz Max Boost) with Radeon Vega 8 Graphics, $90

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3000 MHz DDR4 DRAM Desktop Gaming Memory Single 16GB CL15 BLS16G4D30AESC (White), $80

Motherboard: Asus Prime B450M-A/CSM AMD Ryzen 2 AM4 DDR4 HDMI DVI VGA M.2 USB 3.1 Gen2 mATX Motherboard, $80

Storage: Crucial BX500 CT120BX500SSD1 240 GB, $50

GPU: GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1650 OC 4G, $160🖥️

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no not yet

crystal quest May 31, 2020, 9:20 PM

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when do you wanna build this by?

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:20 PM

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no set time but rather have it done as fast as i can

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i got the gpu already

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and got 2x8 ddr4 ram

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so good on that

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just need a new motherboard, cpu, psu, and storage

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but working a job i get 8.55 an hour aint helping much

crystal quest May 31, 2020, 9:21 PM

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okay what’s your total budget remaining

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:22 PM

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$400 ish

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:24 PM

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I would say the ryzen 5 3600 with that mobo and the $70ish power supply

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that should be around $300 somewhere

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oh and storage too

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for $50 u should be able to get around 500gb not 240gb

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:26 PM

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where you seeing the ryzen 5 3600 for 70?

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:27 PM

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the ryzen 5 3600 is $160

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:27 PM

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i was gonna say XD

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:27 PM

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so it would be $167 + $80 (mobo) and + $70 power

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:28 PM

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oops

crystal quest May 31, 2020, 9:29 PM

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i’m looking through what’s not back ordered rn and seeing if i can put together a small setup to fill your remaining needs

latent storm May 31, 2020, 9:29 PM

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is the gigabyte aorus b450 pro wifi a good board?

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:30 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/Blue-SN550-500GB-NVMe-Internal/dp/B07YFF3JCN/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=500gb%2Bm.2&qid=1590960546&sr=8-4&th=1

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@forest salmon

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this would be better than a 240gb

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$10 more but

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also this is m.2 so its faster

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your mobo you chose has a m.2 slot

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:31 PM

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that the cpu?

latent storm May 31, 2020, 9:32 PM

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@ripe wedge is that drive nvme?

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:34 PM

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PSU: EVGA 110-BQ-0500-K1 500 BQ 80 Plus Bronze Semi Modular 500W Power Supply $65 (newegg)

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core, 12-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler $160 (amazon)

Motherboard: Asus Prime B450M-A/CSM AMD Ryzen 2 AM4 DDR4 HDMI DVI VGA M.2 USB 3.1 Gen2 mATX Motherboard, $80 (amazon)

Storage: WD Blue SN550 500GB NVMe Internal SSD - Gen3 x4 PCIe 8Gb/s, M.2 2280, 3D NAND, Up to 2,400 MB/s - WDS500G2B0C, $65 (amazon)

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this is currentylu what i got

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:35 PM

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@latent storm ye

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@forest salmon ye

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btw @forest salmon what clock speed is your ram u bought

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:36 PM

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2400?

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says " ddr4 2x8gb 2400"

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:37 PM

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oof

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kinda slower

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how much did you pay for them

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:37 PM

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70 i think

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yeah

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:37 PM

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ripped off

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return it

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lol

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amd takes advantage of faster ram

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:37 PM

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that bad?

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:37 PM

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(higher mhz)

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it will improve the fps

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:38 PM

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wait

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they were 50

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:38 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820231941?item=N82E16820231941&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-memory+(desktop+memory)-_-N82E16820231941&gclid=CjwKCAjwq832BRA5EiwACvCWsezUS3WDb5mVxVqCfX3wQzCKS-pnVBqUBzSohIy8B1DU5pGL0AGznxoCV4sQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

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o

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:38 PM

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well 55

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:38 PM

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still kinda bad

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:39 PM

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should i return

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and would i get full price back XD

ripe wedge May 31, 2020, 9:39 PM

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idk if u have opened them

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idk

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it depends

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check where u bought them from on return policy

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 9:40 PM

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amazon

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ill look

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@ripe wedge

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so i can return for free

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not sure about getting money back

crystal quest May 31, 2020, 9:53 PM

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aight i went old school and wrote this on paper @forest salmon

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ima DM you

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essentially:
MSI B450 Pro VDH Max ~$80 on third party retailer through google shopping
Ryzen 3 3300X ~$120 through B&H Photo
EVGA 100-W1-0500-KR 80+ 500W $54 through staples
Crucial MX500 500GB SSD w/ 512MB DRAM Cache through Amazon
Phanteks P300A mesh front case w/ 1 120mm fan ~$60 through Amazon

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That totals 384 before shipping and taxes

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You'll definitely want a Ryzen 3 3100 or 3300X in that price range. No need for the 3200G APU since you already have a graphics card. You dont need a CPU cooler better than the included one for now because they are pretty power efficient as long as you don't overclock heavily.

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Based on your current budget you can fit the 3300X and its definitely superior

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The PSU I chose was only 80+ because you're on a really tight budget and I wanted to get you a case. PSUs are extra expensive right now because of corona related causes. They will come down in price in a few months and will be a fairly cheap replacement compared to other items. Thats if you even need it!

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80+ bronze is nice, but not when youre putting your ~$400-700 in an HP pavilion case

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 10:03 PM

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im planning on getting a new case but it isnt something i need rn

crystal quest May 31, 2020, 10:03 PM

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The new phanteks cases are great for airflow and keeping your components cool

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plus the 300a is super budget friendly

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 10:03 PM

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im more focused on upgrading/building a new pc then if needed get a new case

crystal quest May 31, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Maybe check youtube to see if you can mount an aftermarket motherboard in the HP. Not the most necessary thing, but would be medium-high on my own priority list.

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 10:08 PM

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ok

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im not trying to go to overboard im just trying to get things just to be able to live with

crystal quest May 31, 2020, 10:11 PM

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yeah I definitely tried to make it $400 budget friendly and balanced with what you said you already have

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 10:11 PM

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yeah thank you

crystal quest May 31, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Motherboard + CPU = 200. PSU = 50. Storage = 50.

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Case is your call!

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I sent you my list + sites where you can find them in stock in dm

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Mobo + PSU are hard to find in stock rn

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everything is backordered or being scalped overprice :\

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 10:13 PM

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because of the whole thing going on

crystal quest May 31, 2020, 10:13 PM

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yeah. PPE has priority shipping. They cant get the stuff on boats fast enough.

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All in all @ripe wedge has given you all the advice you needed. I was just bored and wanted to contribute haha

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 10:15 PM

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i feel you XD

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i just got off work and found the ram came in

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then realized it was ddr4 so it wouldnt fit

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so im just like welp there goes that

crystal quest May 31, 2020, 10:17 PM

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well for around $300 you can get your 4 required components and figure out the rest as you go!

forest salmon May 31, 2020, 10:19 PM

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yeah i just plan on slowly upgrading it

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but just going with a basic $400-500 pc

crystal quest May 31, 2020, 10:20 PM

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But I agree with @ripe wedge, if you upgrade to a new ryzen you should swap those memory sticks out for some 3000MHz+ sticks. The CPU has this stuff called "infinite threading" that really uses the higher ram speeds efficiently. It'll prolly be your biggest FPS per dollar jump.

copper mason May 31, 2020, 10:21 PM

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You guys got any tricks on how to unplug 24pin Mobo power?

fast dust May 31, 2020, 10:21 PM

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yep

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Pull the latch

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wiggle

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pull it out

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ez

wary geode May 31, 2020, 11:03 PM

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The wiggle is key

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I hate plugging in my extension 24 pin seems to never fit but it works by some miracle

latent storm May 31, 2020, 11:04 PM

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thank you aorus

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here’s me thinking i could make an all aorus computer for a reasonable price

cursive wharf May 31, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Lol, you can never do an all one brand PC for a reasonable price, let alone actually decent price

stoic island May 31, 2020, 11:37 PM

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lol

fast dust Jun 1, 2020, 12:27 AM

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@feral jetty what PSU are you using in that build

untold trail Jun 1, 2020, 2:01 AM

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no links are allowed right?

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bc im looking at mobos, one on amazon, and one on newegg and for some reason they both have identical names, but look different?

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if anyone can help, just dm i guess so i can send the images

sand falcon Jun 1, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Links are allowed if your name is blue

untold trail Jun 1, 2020, 2:03 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y3prxr/asus-tuf-b450m-pro-gaming-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-b450m-pro-gaming

Asus TUF B450M-PRO GAMING Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

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https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b450m-pro4/p/N82E16813157843?item=N82E16813157843&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-motherboards+-+amd-_-N82E16813157843&gclid=CjwKCAjwq832BRA5EiwACvCWsXtHch2ZMlPy8AOzj4bC_FqeFsaqbUTJtPgqDhdMC2t-MZq26YQlrBoCRj0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

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for some reason the pro gaming on pcpartpicker looks like the PLUS thats on amazon

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 2:05 AM

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tuf pro is very good

untold trail Jun 1, 2020, 2:05 AM

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and the newegg one looks totally different

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ik

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thats what i was recommened, but for some reason these are all mixed up

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i wanna order the one on newegg bc the price is much better but it looks like an entirely different mobo

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 2:06 AM

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pcpp lists arent perfect, but theyre close enough

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the tuf pro might just be oos everywhere

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so youll need a different board

spiral zealot Jun 1, 2020, 2:07 AM

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am i missing something? the pcpp is asus, the newegg link is ASRock, i don't see an amazon link though

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so yeah they would look different

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completely different brands, just using the same chipset and similar naming

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 2:07 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-b450m-pro-gaming/p/N82E16813119224?Item=N82E16813119224&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-ZnycD25EaRKo1CZw9Mb7Eg

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thats the board you want, right?

untold trail Jun 1, 2020, 2:07 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-B450M-PRO-Gaming-Micro-Motherboard/dp/B07K2SKY5J

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sorry this is the pro on amazon

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oh yeah that one

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 2:08 AM

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well, its overpriced on amazon, so forget it

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and oos on newegg

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so either find it somewhere else, wait, or i can find you a different board

untold trail Jun 1, 2020, 2:09 AM

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i could get the plus, ive heard theyre very similar but the pro is better

spiral zealot Jun 1, 2020, 2:09 AM

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i run an ASRock B450 for my build and it's great

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but mine is mini-itx

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not that much different though, just more stuff on the micro, more dimm slots, pci slots, etc

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 2:10 AM

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yep, the plus is only 90 on the wegg

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https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-b450m-plus-gaming/p/N82E16813119141?Item=N82E16813119141&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-bO2TL7rnlr8ntfMs5wOmRg

untold trail Jun 1, 2020, 2:10 AM

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and they have the same measurements andshit right? meaning if i made sure the pro fits, the plus will as well

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thanks

spiral zealot Jun 1, 2020, 2:10 AM

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yeah, they're both micro-atx, so dimensions are the same

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 2:11 AM

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no s word

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u were saved by the missing space lol

untold trail Jun 1, 2020, 2:11 AM

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did i curse?

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oh i did lol

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my b, bad habit

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 2:11 AM

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yeah, those words get auto removed by the bot lol

untold trail Jun 1, 2020, 2:12 AM

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saved by my broken keyboard

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Cringe

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is this a reference to soul eater?

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huh

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nice

cursive wharf Jun 1, 2020, 2:31 AM

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plus and pro vary by a fair bit. VRMs, M2 ports, sound chip

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probs IO as well

wary tundra Jun 1, 2020, 2:33 AM

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Hey mr111 or hei, do you have a build for $700

untold trail Jun 1, 2020, 2:33 AM

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what do i do then hei

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is one better? or do they both do certain things better

cursive wharf Jun 1, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Pro is better by a fair bit. But also prices and stock is pretty meh. Plus usually isnt the best priced "super budget" mobo

untold trail Jun 1, 2020, 2:35 AM

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so if i cant get the pro are there any alternatives

wary geode Jun 1, 2020, 3:03 AM

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yeeee

spiral zealot Jun 1, 2020, 3:03 AM

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@wary tundra you can probably put together a decent 1080p60 high/ultra system w/a 3300x and a 1660 super for around $700 if you're building from scratch, just going off the top of my head

wary geode Jun 1, 2020, 3:03 AM

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yeeeeee i can make a list

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streamin or nahh

wary tundra Jun 1, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Just gaming

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I went with the 3100 and 5600xt

spiral zealot Jun 1, 2020, 3:11 AM

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👍

mortal rampart Jun 1, 2020, 3:17 AM

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W

wary geode Jun 1, 2020, 3:25 AM

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Noice

wanton crystal Jun 1, 2020, 3:52 AM

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So I'm building in the next few months but if i was to build now what would be better?

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This would be for streaming/gaming. A Ryzen 5 3600 with a 2080 super or a ryzen 7 3800x with a rx5700xt

sacred obsidian Jun 1, 2020, 3:54 AM

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i would go with the 3600 and 2080 super

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especially if streaming as you could use the NVENC encoding

spiral zealot Jun 1, 2020, 3:54 AM

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^

wanton crystal Jun 1, 2020, 3:54 AM

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What is NVENC encoding?

sand falcon Jun 1, 2020, 3:55 AM

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Very nice 🙂

sacred obsidian Jun 1, 2020, 3:55 AM

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its basically a thing nvidia gpus have that allow the streaming to be taken care of by the GPU instead of the CPU to limit impact on performance

spiral zealot Jun 1, 2020, 3:55 AM

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it basically offloads the overhead for encoding the video onto the GPU and off the CPU

wanton crystal Jun 1, 2020, 3:55 AM

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Ahh gotcha

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So when gaming/streaming is the any circumstances the ryzen 7 is better and worth the extra money vs the ryzen 5?

sacred obsidian Jun 1, 2020, 3:56 AM

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it will make it to where you dont see much of a performance hit in games

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not really no

wanton crystal Jun 1, 2020, 3:56 AM

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Ok great, thanks for the input

snow stag Jun 1, 2020, 4:53 AM

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i need helpp

stoic island Jun 1, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Yes

snow stag Jun 1, 2020, 5:07 AM

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how do you know if a motherboard is the reason why your computer won’t display anything. like the computer turns on but nothing displays.

stoic island Jun 1, 2020, 5:09 AM

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That can mean a ton of things

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What else happens when you turn it on

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@snow stag do you have displayed plugged into motherboard or graphics card

barren kindle Jun 1, 2020, 5:10 AM

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i had an issue like that with my new build...ended up being a bios issue

stoic island Jun 1, 2020, 5:11 AM

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I had the issue, first was a dead graphics card, second a motherboard issue.

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It can be many things

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Motherboard CPU GPU ram PSU

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Basically anything

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There are cases where even a bad hard drive makes it not boot :p

last wing Jun 1, 2020, 7:53 AM

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@snow stag I literally had the same issue today. It turned out that my motherboard didn't support 256GB of ram only 128GB

little osprey Jun 1, 2020, 7:54 AM

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guys is this all I need for my build

📎 Screenshot_4.png

spiral zealot Jun 1, 2020, 8:00 AM

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you're missing a mobo

little osprey Jun 1, 2020, 8:05 AM

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@spiral zealot the person who selling the case is providing it

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@spiral zealot so that's it?

cloud drum Jun 1, 2020, 8:06 AM

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That's a gpu bottleneck

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970?

spiral zealot Jun 1, 2020, 8:07 AM

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as far as 'can i build a pc with this' yes that's all you need. like @cloud drum said though, that GPU will hold you back

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oh wait

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ram

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is it in the motherboard as well?

little osprey Jun 1, 2020, 8:07 AM

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6gb

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I have the 6gb

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already

cloud drum Jun 1, 2020, 8:07 AM

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I would get at least 8

little osprey Jun 1, 2020, 8:08 AM

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and also I need my limits

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so I picked 970

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and also I need my limits
@little osprey

cloud drum Jun 1, 2020, 8:08 AM

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Limit?

little osprey Jun 1, 2020, 8:08 AM

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yes,

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having a great machine is not fine fo rme

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I spend most hours on pc

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than other

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anyways I can buy another gpu

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@spiral zealot any i9 cpus which doesn' heat up quickly?

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I am more of intel core than a ryzen

spiral zealot Jun 1, 2020, 8:14 AM

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no clue, i'm an amd guy myself

little osprey Jun 1, 2020, 8:15 AM

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:o

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is i7 4790 good?

spiral zealot Jun 1, 2020, 8:16 AM

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super old, 4th gen i7, compared to 10th gen right now

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still not a bad CPU, but not compared to current intel/amd

cloud drum Jun 1, 2020, 8:21 AM

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It all really depends on what your cooling it with

little osprey Jun 1, 2020, 9:00 AM

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no you would actually need 16gbs ram for that system

little osprey Jun 1, 2020, 10:47 AM

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what's the difference between a low profile gpu? and a regular

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do they have same performence?

silent fractal Jun 1, 2020, 11:09 AM

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what is a good budget z490 mobo

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anyone

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?

half crown Jun 1, 2020, 11:49 AM

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question: since my 3rd M.2 slot shares lanes with sata ports, would it be useless to get a pcie x4 hardware interface m.2 drive?

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or will it be fine?

untold trail Jun 1, 2020, 12:40 PM

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How much worse is the plus mobo than the pro

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I’ve been looking for an alternative but I’m lost

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The asus tuf B450-M plus and pro I mean

wise heron Jun 1, 2020, 1:17 PM

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i changed my 3600 build

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fj2hNq

System Builder

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thoughts?

buoyant flame Jun 1, 2020, 1:23 PM

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M.2 is very overpriced and that cpu cooler isn't gonna help much

wise heron Jun 1, 2020, 1:24 PM

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I can get M2 for cheaper

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But how doesnt cooler help?

buoyant flame Jun 1, 2020, 1:25 PM

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The stock cooler for that chip will have about the same cooling power as the 212

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Also how much cheaper can you get the m.2 for?

wise heron Jun 1, 2020, 1:26 PM

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About 50$

buoyant flame Jun 1, 2020, 1:26 PM

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So 135 then?

wise heron Jun 1, 2020, 1:26 PM

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Yeah around that

buoyant flame Jun 1, 2020, 1:26 PM

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OK ig thats fine

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My last comment is that I'm not crazy about that case, airflow wise

wise heron Jun 1, 2020, 1:27 PM

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How so

buoyant flame Jun 1, 2020, 1:28 PM

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It doesn't have good intake

wise heron Jun 1, 2020, 1:28 PM

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What Do you recommend in that price range

buoyant flame Jun 1, 2020, 1:28 PM

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The td500 mesh tbh

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Its a little more flashy tho

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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1559443-REG/cooler_master_mcb_d500d_kgnn_s01_masterbox_td500_mesh_airflow.html?ap=y&smp=y

Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh Mid-Tower Case (Black)

Buy Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh Mid-Tower Case (Black) featuring Supports ATX, Micro-ATX, Mini-ITX & More, Steel Frame & Windowed Side Panel, 2 x 2.5/3.5" Drive Bays, 4 x 2.5" Drive Bays, 7 x Expansion Slots, 2 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 | Audio In | Audio Out, 3 x 120mm ARGB Fans...

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Here's the link

wise heron Jun 1, 2020, 1:30 PM

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The fans come with the case right?

buoyant flame Jun 1, 2020, 1:30 PM

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Yes

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Comes with 3 intake but no exhaust

wise heron Jun 1, 2020, 1:33 PM

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Isnt it bad with 3 intake fans at the back?

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Generally you would want them to be exhaust

buoyant flame Jun 1, 2020, 1:33 PM

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Wdym? The intake fans are in the front of the case

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Lol

wise heron Jun 1, 2020, 1:34 PM

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Nvm

buoyant flame Jun 1, 2020, 1:34 PM

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👍

silk estuary Jun 1, 2020, 4:49 PM

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@cold iron no they didn't abuse power you asked a question in #build-pics

ripe wedge Jun 1, 2020, 4:52 PM

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cant you just flip a fan around and boom exhaust

silk estuary Jun 1, 2020, 4:53 PM

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I think so

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If it's blowing one direction and you flip it around it would blow the other direction

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Instead of intake, outtake

still roostBOT Jun 1, 2020, 5:46 PM

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00#5000 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

glacial stream Jun 1, 2020, 5:47 PM

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OMG

ripe wedge Jun 1, 2020, 5:59 PM

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uh oh bad word

finite remnant Jun 1, 2020, 6:00 PM

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He, which is the best PSU Deepcool, silverstone,or gamdias?

sullen spoke Jun 1, 2020, 6:01 PM

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depends on specific model https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

Linus Tech Tips

[psucultists] PSU Tier List

PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 13.0 welcome to the brand new PSU Tier List! Created and maintained by @DatTestBench, @Stefan Payne, @GreatMasterAden, @Juular, @Elisis, @Maurice from Madagascar, @boghubodaghi and @LukeSavenije Last Update: 30-05-2020 Commonly mentioned terms: Spoiler P...

modern shadow Jun 1, 2020, 6:12 PM

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@stoic island honestly you should make a business on fiveer making lists for people

stoic island Jun 1, 2020, 6:12 PM

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I should

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Make monies

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I want monies

sullen spoke Jun 1, 2020, 6:15 PM

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yeah you really like making build lists xD

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 6:19 PM

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what if we did that for the newegg server, but didnt charge anything on fiver, so the listing would just be a link to here? lol

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advertise the wegg server

sullen spoke Jun 1, 2020, 6:21 PM

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weggsmug

sand falcon Jun 1, 2020, 6:21 PM

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I've always though that would be a cool business

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 6:22 PM

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its too niche to make a living off of

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wouldnt be bad as a side gig

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but people like us ruin that opportunity for people by offering our knowledge for free

sand falcon Jun 1, 2020, 6:23 PM

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If you build the systems too though too...

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 6:23 PM

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and if you wanted to physically build for people, that would only work locally

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and you would have to charge a ton more

sand falcon Jun 1, 2020, 6:23 PM

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You could ship

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 6:23 PM

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because that now takes hours of your day

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shipping is dangerous

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and for just a side gig, one mishap is detrimental for your business

sand falcon Jun 1, 2020, 6:24 PM

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Yeah

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 6:24 PM

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srry cant spell today

sand falcon Jun 1, 2020, 6:24 PM

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It's fun to build systems though. That's supposed to be part of my job, but budget right now.... not good

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 6:25 PM

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its one of those things that is extremely locational, like in big cities where you have lots of possible clients and could reasonably deliver yourself

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shipping costs alone make it totally unprofitable lol

sand falcon Jun 1, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Clients pay for shipping. That's what big companies like dell do

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 6:28 PM

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so now your already charging them a ton more for your service

sand falcon Jun 1, 2020, 6:29 PM

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yeah 😦

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 6:29 PM

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especially considering you would typically have to convince these types of people why just buying from cyberpower or dell is a BAD idea and costs too much

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the people who want a custom pc, but are too scared to build it themselves and wanted to get a custom one from ibuypower

sand falcon Jun 1, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Yeah. Does microcenter do system builds?

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 6:32 PM

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they do something

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i think they let you build it there and they have people available to assist

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or something like that

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if i had to work for minimum wage anywhere, i would choose microcenter lol

modern shadow Jun 1, 2020, 6:36 PM

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lol

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its a 40 minute ride from my house

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wanna work there

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 6:36 PM

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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theres a microcenter in minneapolis

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WE MUST PROTECT IT AT ALL COSTS

modern shadow Jun 1, 2020, 6:37 PM

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lol

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lmao

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throw cases at the raiders

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 6:37 PM

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why are their 5 of them in NYC?

modern shadow Jun 1, 2020, 6:37 PM

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idk

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people there really like to build pcs

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 6:38 PM

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theres two near philly

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might have to move there some day

modern shadow Jun 1, 2020, 6:38 PM

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I live in Cali

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fornia

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so

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LA

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 6:38 PM

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sad, theres no MC in portland

modern shadow Jun 1, 2020, 6:39 PM

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oof

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just move

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Nice

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 6:42 PM

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i want to move out to the west coast, but not be in california

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i live in NY

stoic island Jun 1, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Protecc PC parts

cloud drum Jun 1, 2020, 7:05 PM

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Why is everything so expo

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Expensive

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2060 super 749$?

sand falcon Jun 1, 2020, 7:06 PM

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That's way too much

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What brand+model?

foggy bough Jun 1, 2020, 7:12 PM

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guys should i get the rtx 2060 ko or the saphirre rx 5600xt? (rtx 2060 ko is 10 euros more)

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 7:14 PM

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5600xt, the cards seem to perform quite similarly

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but save 10 euro

modern shadow Jun 1, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Oh no my computer restarts when im playing a game

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Probably because I took off the cpu cooler and put it back on a couple days ago

foggy bough Jun 1, 2020, 7:15 PM

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but rtx support,better drivers,less power consumption

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 7:15 PM

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drivers are good now

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rtx on a 2060 is useless

foggy bough Jun 1, 2020, 7:16 PM

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yeah but what about dlss 2.0?

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 7:16 PM

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i would rather have the game be playable than look good

sand falcon Jun 1, 2020, 7:16 PM

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2060 also has nvenc though, and you can use the rtx cores for some other stuff

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 7:16 PM

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also the 5600xt is more power efficient

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@foggy bough are you streaming?

foggy bough Jun 1, 2020, 7:18 PM

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no streaming @SassyFish256#5716

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 7:19 PM

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📎 Capture.PNG

foggy bough Jun 1, 2020, 7:20 PM

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oh ok lol

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 7:20 PM

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its close enough that the difference on gpu models can boost clocks can make them closer

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so power consumption is pretty much the same

foggy bough Jun 1, 2020, 7:20 PM

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k

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 7:20 PM

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no streaming, so nvenc is not super important

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dlss 2.0 isnt worth sacrificing performance, im sure you would turn it off anyway

foggy bough Jun 1, 2020, 7:21 PM

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but still dlss 2.0 pimps up ur framerates right?

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 7:21 PM

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compared to 1.0, yes

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but its still less frames than with it off

foggy bough Jun 1, 2020, 7:21 PM

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so basically more frames than the amd card?

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 7:22 PM

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1.0 will be unplayable on a 2060, 2.0 will increase the performance of 1.0, but will still perform worse than if you just turned it off

foggy bough Jun 1, 2020, 7:22 PM

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okay

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 7:23 PM

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what monitor are you using?

foggy bough Jun 1, 2020, 7:23 PM

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so i will buy the 5600xt right?

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 7:23 PM

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you saving 10 euros, so why not? both cards are similar enough for what you want to do

foggy bough Jun 1, 2020, 7:23 PM

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thanks man

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bye bye

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 7:23 PM

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but, what monitor?

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is it 1080p?

foggy bough Jun 1, 2020, 7:24 PM

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60 hz 1 ms

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23.6 inch

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 7:24 PM

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1080p?

foggy bough Jun 1, 2020, 7:24 PM

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yes

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 7:24 PM

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ok cool

foggy bough Jun 1, 2020, 7:24 PM

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yeet my performance will be FAST AF

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 7:28 PM

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pc go zooom

viral cave Jun 1, 2020, 7:35 PM

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I don't need this anymore!

📎 JPEG_20200601_153511.jpg

vague crystal Jun 1, 2020, 7:50 PM

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600 usd build?

viral cave Jun 1, 2020, 7:58 PM

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600?

junior blaze Jun 1, 2020, 8:00 PM

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@viral cave so if u dont mind "lower end" monitors you could get 2 for not much

viral cave Jun 1, 2020, 8:01 PM

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I paid $100 for the monitor I have and I hate it!

junior blaze Jun 1, 2020, 8:01 PM

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well an alternative is to get 1 ultrawide but that is PRICY

viral cave Jun 1, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Yeah I don't have the money to upgrade anything right now unless if I make a YouTube channel.

junior blaze Jun 1, 2020, 8:04 PM

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well the posters would do the job if thats what you want

viral cave Jun 1, 2020, 8:04 PM

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I would like that and paint my room.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 8:56 PM

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ez
@fast dust in theory hah
in my case I had to use a tweezer to keep the latch open, use prying tool to create some gap, remove cooler fan, RAM to finally wiggle it touching its length side
it was a royal PITA ((::

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guys question: to let the IO shields prongs touch or not to touch the ports ?

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 8:59 PM

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It shouldn't matter.

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They're grounds.

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case is also grounded.

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@copper mason, I should specify, as long as the prongs are touching the port's outside casing, not any internal pins. Lol.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:04 PM

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I should specify, as long as the prongs are touching the port's outside casing, not any internal pins. Lol.
@normal brook gotcha makes sense thanks hah
I was actually afraid of them touching anything at all, was about to bend them out of the way
some guy on another server said Linus said letting it touch the ports would fry them

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if there were something like a PC building Bible with factual information it'd help n00bs like me so much xD

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:05 PM

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The outside of all ports are ground, there should be no issue with it touching the IO Shield since the case is also grounded.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:06 PM

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ya looks like that's the general consensus

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:06 PM

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There kinda is a lack of specifics. It just takes general knowledge of PC building, and how stuff works I suppose.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:06 PM

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but see I would have to google and cross check answers for every little question like this
especially someone who's prone to worrying ((::

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another example would be ESD

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:07 PM

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It's an Electrical Engineering issue.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:08 PM

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ya so with ESD you prob already know that most people don't take it seriously

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but when I read responses of people in the field, it makes much more sense to just follow protocol

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:08 PM

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ESD is scary.

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Especially during a dry day.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:09 PM

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those with ESD training, those jobs are to isolate ESD failures, or simply those who know the facts and can explain it clearly

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:09 PM

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I would always at the least touch something grounded as a pre-caution.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:10 PM

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if I understand correctly, there's no way to prove the existence of ESD damage or lack thereof, without professional equipments or some such

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so I just play it safe and ground myself at all times

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:10 PM

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That is not true.

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Well, depends how you look at it I suppose.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:10 PM

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I meant latent damage

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not catastrophic damage which would prob be immediately apparent

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:11 PM

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Then no. Probably not.

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You can definitely prove it's existence by running experiments yourself.

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But if you're talking about a manufacturer calling you out on it?

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They're not going to.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:11 PM

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I meant for lay people of course xD

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I don't have the knowledge/experience/toolings/ $$$$ to test it haha

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Sure you do.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:12 PM

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so I play safe

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:12 PM

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You don't need tools.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:12 PM

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how do I go about proving ESD damage 🤔

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Just get some junk RAM, and run the humidity in your house way down by running the airconditioner non-stop then touch the RAM.

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Make sure the ram works before hand of course.

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Then try until your RAM stops working.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:13 PM

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that would be catastrophic damage tho right ? xD

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I meant latent that won't become apparent until months years down the road

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Yes, but you wouldn't notice it except for the fact your RAM doesn't work.

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I see what you're saying.

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It's potentially possible still, by running memtest 86 or something.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:14 PM

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latent damage seems very difficult to prove, and accounts for more ESD damage cases than catastrophic one I'd reckon
not sure about the exact numbers

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but ya I don't worry too much about ESD

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because I am already worrying enough about it 🤣

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Most people don't. And I don't like working with those people. 😛

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Especially in enterprise environments.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:15 PM

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I follow protocols most people wouldn't
like wearing nitrile gloves and ESD strap xD

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Oh, then you worry about ESD.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:15 PM

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yes ofc xD

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:16 PM

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You just stated that you don't worry too much about ESD.

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Contradicting yourself. xD

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:16 PM

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then I said "because I'm already worrying enough about it"
just kidding hah

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and ya I don't even work in IT haha

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or EE background or anything, just personality preferences

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good chat tho thank you ((::

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:17 PM

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Same.

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What is your native language?

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:17 PM

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not english

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is that that obvious haha

wraith mesa Jun 1, 2020, 9:18 PM

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My new build getting ready

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Maybe not to the average person, but I am a self-taught multilingual, and notice specific nuances in the way you speak.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:19 PM

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oo very interesting, I'd like to hear it :>

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also super exciting that I'm almost done with the build

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:20 PM

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What are your guys' build components?

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:21 PM

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it's my first time, and I went with a ThreadRipper, and one with weird choices at that
so I get trashed on a lot haha

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someone even bet that it won't turn on ((::

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bet $10 that it'd shut down after 5min of Prime95

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Why is that?

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What are the other components?

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:22 PM

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looks like I can't share links here, but i'll remove the URL dots:

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drive google com/file/d/17J3rfGdOnmme_H_xslQqqCznQMIyQ0rN/view?usp=sharing

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that's my build log, on top is link to PCPP parts

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:23 PM

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That is definitely not what I was talking about.

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That is how you're building your machine.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:23 PM

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I know xD

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on the top there's a link to "Build Specs"

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:23 PM

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What are the specific individual components you've purchased?

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:23 PM

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I don't have that link handy that's why

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Oh, I did not notice that was a link.

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How long ago did you make these purchases?

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:24 PM

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ya I only have that link with me atm that's why I shared you that

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about 2 weeks ago was when I received my final parts

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:24 PM

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o_o

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What was your goal?

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:25 PM

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didn't start building until couple days ago

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:25 PM

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You made like the opposite of a gaming computer.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:25 PM

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goal: to free myself from cheap azz devices all my life ((::

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noted that I got it for much cheaper than current market rate

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like 500-700 cheaper

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:26 PM

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A 16 core threadripper cpu paired with a 1660 Super isn't going to do that though.

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What is your workload?

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:26 PM

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ya right now I'll try to keep it CPU-bound only with general IT/development stuff, VMs, maybe emulators etc

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1660S just temporary, awaiting 3rd gen launch

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:27 PM

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Ahh ok.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:27 PM

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almost all components were chosen based on performance per dollar value

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:27 PM

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What IT Dev or VM's will you run?

#

1600w psu isn't. 😮

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Nor is the threadripper cpu.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:27 PM

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so I chose 1660S as it can run Ultra 1080p 60FPS+

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ya I hated having to choose that PSU ((::

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really didn't want to

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Why did you then?

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:28 PM

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but I don't want to have to sell used high wattage PSU which likely no one will buy

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and I plan on keeping it for next 10 years ((::

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at which point I might have 4 GPUs by then

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What IT Dev or VM's will you run?
@normal brook I'm tryna break into tech
exploring different areas
web, AI, some VR/game dev

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:30 PM

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What will you do with 4 GPU's?

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:30 PM

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deep learning

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if it turns out I won't do DL as much, then i'll do multiseat VM sharing the CPU

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turning that TV nearby into a media center

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hopefully that works

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Nor is the threadripper cpu.
@normal brook I got it for half market rate right now xD

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almost lowest you could get basically, pure luck, was the last one available

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:33 PM

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$300?

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That is pretty good.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:33 PM

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that'd be lovely, but nah 400

#

I thought I saw it shot up to $850 the other day hah

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on eBay I saw sold 650-750

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so I chose 1660S as it can run AAA Ultra 1080p 60FPS+
also because GDDR6, same memory bandwidth as 2060

viral cave Jun 1, 2020, 9:35 PM

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📎 unknown.gif

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Personally I would have chosen a ATI card as they have better value at the lower price points.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:42 PM

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RAM and NVMe were a bit of an indulgence ((::
I didn't need that much
Altho if I went 4x8GB I'd have to deal with reselling and buying 4x16
based on reading others workload, it seems like 64GB was the sweet spot for me, not too hard to saturate
2TB because some competitions use 1TB dataset

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I wasn't too happy with the HP, having discovered after the fact that there's another drive using the same controller but much better power efficiency

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ADATA I believe

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for just 10 bucks more

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:43 PM

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ADATA is apparently one of the worst NVMe drives out there.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:43 PM

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I forgot the exact model

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but it uses the same controller as that HP I got

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and I think it was anandtech that did review and showed more power efficient

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I did my research for specific products I was gonna buy of course xD

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not based on intution

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:44 PM

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I personally favor the WD Black.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:44 PM

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it's prob at least 100 more for the 2TB version if it has it

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Personally I would have chosen a ATI card as they have better value at the lower price points.
@normal brook ya I only went with NVIDIA for support reasons

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Ahh yeah. Driver issues.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:45 PM

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AMD still very much behind in this area

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for DL that is

still roostBOT Jun 1, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Dumbo#4521 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:46 PM

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yikes haha ma bad

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Oh no.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 9:47 PM

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I was saying I'm glad you didn't call me a R<badword> the moment I mentioned multiGPU

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like many have done

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bet $10 that it'd shut down after 5min of Prime95
btw tis reminds me I ran Prime95 for 15mins no problem,
looks like n00b here with zero experience building/thermal pads won the bet :>

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I always find people's arrogance over the internet fascinating lul

normal brook Jun 1, 2020, 10:07 PM

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That's why I asked first, for gaming 2 is max now for nvidia, but there are other ways you can utilize more GPU's via VM's and such.

copper mason Jun 1, 2020, 10:08 PM

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yeep and rendering

hushed vortex Jun 1, 2020, 10:39 PM

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hmm

📎 unknown.png

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funny wrong cpu haha

sand falcon Jun 1, 2020, 10:59 PM

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I've got a pentium three. Specs look valid, but I don't see how it would run that system.... did you edit this picture wuuut

viral ore Jun 1, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Pentium 3 doesn't go past 1.4 unless overclocked, which I don't even think they can go much past that.

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Altho, red faction and Pentium three are about the same time frame

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Oh wait, that setup dialog box is the game

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So the game itself is just misreporting the CPU ig

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Anyway, that game is great

hushed vortex Jun 1, 2020, 11:05 PM

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YUP

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IS IT fix able 🙂

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i mean cant tell any dif

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but be nice get over 32mbs on vram

sand falcon Jun 1, 2020, 11:06 PM

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The game probably doesn't need any more than that

hushed vortex Jun 1, 2020, 11:06 PM

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i have a ati old card and it let me set it to 128

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im suprize they fix the gpu tho

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it use too go right to the intel card

sand falcon Jun 1, 2020, 11:07 PM

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The intel card can probably handle it

hushed vortex Jun 1, 2020, 11:08 PM

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yea

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but it become a issue with some games

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when it report wrong data

sand falcon Jun 1, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Do all of the games report the wrong data?

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Or just the one?

hushed vortex Jun 1, 2020, 11:08 PM

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only old games

sand falcon Jun 1, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Which ones have issues?

hushed vortex Jun 1, 2020, 11:09 PM

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nvida did fix some the bug with reporting tho

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hit manb lood money

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show intel card

sand falcon Jun 1, 2020, 11:09 PM

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Does it run okay?

hushed vortex Jun 1, 2020, 11:10 PM

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kinda

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but i cant max it too 4k case the intel card is not 4k

vague crystal Jun 1, 2020, 11:10 PM

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i need a 600$ build

mortal rampart Jun 1, 2020, 11:10 PM

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i gotchuuuu

sand falcon Jun 1, 2020, 11:11 PM

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@vague crystal Just gaming or anything else?

vague crystal Jun 1, 2020, 11:11 PM

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gaming

hushed vortex Jun 1, 2020, 11:11 PM

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just games

sand falcon Jun 1, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Can the game support 4k bunny?

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It's from 2006

hushed vortex Jun 1, 2020, 11:11 PM

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it can with my amd card

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any way i ok if i figer out how make it work i wil sumit a bug report

sand falcon Jun 1, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Does the game have support for nvidia?

hushed vortex Jun 1, 2020, 11:13 PM

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the issue it not can it run 4k

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it issue is it a super tiny box

sand falcon Jun 1, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Then scale it

hushed vortex Jun 1, 2020, 11:13 PM

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yea

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you cant

mortal rampart Jun 1, 2020, 11:13 PM

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@vague crystal https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9pfLXv

System Builder

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i tried l;mao

hushed vortex Jun 1, 2020, 11:14 PM

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wow glad i did not build mine

sand falcon Jun 1, 2020, 11:14 PM

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@hushed vortex Does your nvidia card have drivers for DirectX 9.0?

hushed vortex Jun 1, 2020, 11:14 PM

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it dose

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im going try the gog version

sand falcon Jun 1, 2020, 11:15 PM

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Can you check that they are active?

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9.0c to be precise