building-and-recc-chat

[sullen spoke]

[modern shadow]

[nocturne dune]

[latent storm]

anybody know any rx 580 i should stay away from

[near garden]

Msi tomahawk max or asus tuf plus gaming micro atx using ryzen 5 3600

[latent storm]

i’ve heard the tomahawk isn’t great for the price

[cursive wharf]

Both are pretty meh

[little leaf]

I mean both are fine boards

[latent storm]

also should i get a rx 580 or a gtx 1050ti for my buddy who doesn’t have a graphics card

[modern shadow]

rx 580

check power supply tho

remember

amd cards take more power

[deep skiff]

that’s not a general rule the rx 580 is just a lot more powerful

[buoyant flame]

Ya lol

Also I would get a 1650 super outta those two anyway

[deep skiff]

yuh true

only place i'd get a 570/80 is the used market, way better value for those $100 cards

[wary geode]

Yeah I got a nitro+ 580 for ~80$

[mortal rampart]

yall think i made the right choice choosing a used mb?

[deep skiff]

as long as it isnt from a sketchy person i think it should be fine

[mortal rampart]

its from the amazon warehouse and the only thing it was missing are "bonus items"

[deep skiff]

might mean some of the cables it comes with, its pretty hard to damage a mobo without completely killing it afaik

[mortal rampart]

i still have 30 days to return it but i still need to get the rest of my parts in order to see if it'll work right

yeah it just doesnt come with a warranty so that'd be the only thing i'd need to replace if anything went wrong

i got for $105 and considering how out of stock everything is and the new b550s are probably going to be very limited

i didn't want to wait the whole summer just trying to get a new mb

[latent storm]

@modern shadow he has a 500w 80+ psu and a320m-k

[wary geode]

Used motherboard as are fine as long as their tested and have high reviews or 75+ satisfied reviews you should be fine and the returns last a good while

@mortal rampart

[mortal rampart]

okok thanks

[wary geode]

Yeah I buy em for builds sometimes

[shy ruin]

whats a good motherboard for a 3700?

[wide sparrow]

X570 mobos

Or B450

Both will support 4000 series

[shy ruin]

ok thanks

[modern shadow]

X470 works 2

[wide sparrow]

Yeah

I'm not super knowledgeable about Mobos but if you're tight on a budget get a b450 mobo

[shy ruin]

ok

[wide sparrow]

Here's a good one. Most likely someone would recommend one thats somewhat better but the reviews are great

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XQgzK8/asus-rog-strix-b450-f-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-strix-b450-f-gaming

I'm still learning (:

[shy ruin]

thanks

[wide sparrow]

There's the b450 tomhawk that i see being recommended a lot over here. You can check this one out as well

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jcYQzy/msi-b450-tomahawk-max-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-tomahawk-max

[deep skiff]

eh tomahawk is hella overrated

[wide sparrow]

Lol true

[mortal rampart]

@wide sparrow get the asrock steel legend

matx or atx is fine

[wide sparrow]

Yeah heard it goods

But I'm not the one getting a mobo :/

Heard that the bios is a bit difficult to navigate or something through asrock

?

Not sure

[sand falcon]

I have an asrock. It's not the best bios in the wordl, but it's not too bad

[onyx whale]

Anyone know of any setup that can fit a ps4 and a PC? like a nice desk site? apart from like office depot

[tepid basalt]

@stoic island
https://youtu.be/dhXxCoX0bso

Some more material for the discussion yesterday

[stoic island]

Tired I am

[tepid basalt]

Ic

Me too

[stoic island]

I'll watch tomorrow

[finite remnant]

Hi guys. What is the best GPU gigabyte rx 5700 xt or XFX rx 5700 xt?

[tepid basalt]

Sapphire Nitro

SE edition if available

[wary tundra]

@twilit salmon whats your temps with the fan pointing at it

[twilit salmon]

Haven’t checked but temps without it were at like 60°F on COD

Actually I think it’s in Celsius as it definitely gets hotter than what 60°F feels like

[wary tundra]

you know idle

[twilit salmon]

Idk the temps I don’t know how to check

[wary tundra]

you have cpuid hwmonitor

[twilit salmon]

?

[wary tundra]

its how you check temps

[twilit salmon]

Oh

I’ll check it when I get home tomorrow since it’s my brothers birthday and currently don’t have access to PC

I screenshotted so I’ll pm you when I have results if that’s okay

[wary tundra]

sounds good

[little osprey]

Anyone know a good starter pc build to get me going? Budget would be nice. I need to be able to edit, stream, and of course, game

[wary tundra]

how much

[little osprey]

At most 1.5k. I don’t know if I want to game game on pc yet. Idk if I’ll like it

[little leaf]

@little osprey well you can get a pretty nice pc with that money

[signal drift]

Plus you can play alot of games with an xbox controller too.. options

[little leaf]

Maybe 3700x 2060 super for the streaming and 32 gigs

Of ram

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qj4kK4

Or since you dont know if your gaming you could get a cheaper gpu and if you want invest into a better cooler

Also psu prices are wack rn so that psu should be fine but if you could wait there are better options

[bronze vortex]

So I have a really old graphics card and I wanted to get a 2060 super. But my power supply has been running louder then usual lately. It’s a 600w EVGA 80+ bronze. Should I be worried it could fry the new graphics card? If so should I upgrade the gpu or pay first

*psu

[cursive wharf]

PSU fan will scale with temps and considering it's getting to hotter weather it may just be temps

Generally a louder fan in a PSU isn't a sign the PSU will die. It may be a sign that the fan is starting to fail. But if it is that sign and noise is only a slight hum/very slight rattle then the fan probs has quite a fair bit of life left. A large rattling sound means fan may not last all too long. I wouldn't recommend replacing the fan yourself but you can either get a professional replacement or slap a fan at the top of the PSU for airflow as that'll be the only issue a dead fan will cause

[forest gull]

Solid cable management?

[tepid basalt]

Too many fans

I'm cold 🥶

[glossy void]

Any pros know a beast gaming/recording pc build under $1500 (so I could run 140+ FPS while recording on a single pc

[tepid basalt]

How about buying a capture card?

[stoic island]

@tepid basalt they want a PC to game and record lol, not a dedicated recording pc

[tepid basalt]

Huh? So u need another pc for the capture card?

So I've been misunderstanding how it works all this time...

[sullen spoke]

lol

but ye for capture card you basically conenct an hdmi to the capture card on another pc to capture and encode

for single pc, a nvidia gpu and using nvenc is best bet

[tepid basalt]

I see

[sand falcon]

1500 can get you a pretty darn solid system

[cold sorrel]

I'm still wondering why the world had to go insane right when I wanted to build a new PC...

[azure sapphire]

hello

[sand falcon]

We have a customer. Budget is 5000 dollars, no holds barred.

I'll also find some LTT build guides

[azure sapphire]

I have a high budget yes. I have a lot of stuff to consider here before I buy the best computer.

[sand falcon]

Yes. Have you heard of Linus Tech Tips?

[azure sapphire]

No I have not.

[sand falcon]

Look them up and watch a few videos 🙂

[deep skiff]

what are you going to use it for?

[sand falcon]

crap, I forgot to ask that

This is why I'm blue

[azure sapphire]

Hardcore gaming, streaming, downloads in the background,

[sand falcon]

What sort of internet do you have at your place?

[azure sapphire]

Currently my download speed is 15mbps and my upload is trash but it should be upgraded here soon

[sand falcon]

Okay, you're going to be bottle necked by your internet for downloads in the background

Please do get better internet

[zealous epoch]

my friend got a MOBO from newegg and it's DOA, will they replace it?

[sand falcon]

If it's doa, they should. Talk to the official newegg support

[deep skiff]

yeah they should replace it

[sand falcon]

Odin, do you need wifi or can you do ethernet?

[azure sapphire]

I'm hardwired to my router if that's what you mean?

[sand falcon]

Cool

How important is RGB?

[azure sapphire]

RGB?

[sand falcon]

Pretty colors inside the PC

Looks like rainbow vomit sometimes

[azure sapphire]

Like the glowing lights on a tower?

[silk estuary]

Yah

[sand falcon]

Yes

[deep skiff]

yea like this

[sand falcon]

^

[azure sapphire]

Pretty

Can be added if possible?

[sand falcon]

Yup

You know what? I'm putting in 3866MHz ram, because I can. What rad do you guys think?

Actually 4000 is only 20 dollars more 🙂

This is fun

[azure sapphire]

You know my budget. Go ham

[sand falcon]

I am going ham

pcie4 ssds in raid 0

[celest horizon]

Why would you raid 0 the boot drive

[deep skiff]

thats scary

[celest horizon]

On that budget I'd go with a 480GB 905p optane for boot

[deep skiff]

dont put boot drives in raid usually

[celest horizon]

Don't put ssd's in raid 0 usually

[lyric thistle]

Raid scary

[sand falcon]

I have a separate nvme for boot

[celest horizon]

For bulk data storage on sata drives it can be ok

But it increases seek latency a lot

[sand falcon]

Yeah, I won;t do raid though. It's hard to setup with diminidhing returns

[celest horizon]

What motherboard/cpu?

[sand falcon]

3950 x570 probably

Okay, what case? It needs to be a good one for this build

[violet lichen]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/nachoson/saved/#view=WHYF8d

[deep skiff]

for gaming and budget really isnt an issue wouldnt a 10900k be better? its still decent at multicore things

[violet lichen]

Thoughts?

[sand falcon]

10900k is still marginally better I guess

[deep skiff]

imagine a 3950xt

[sand falcon]

Imagine a 4950x

[deep skiff]

barrow makes decent rads right?

[stoic island]

Ask Hei

[sand falcon]

If we go AMD though, Odin would be able to swap in a 4950x when it's released without any hassle. You want to do that?

[deep skiff]

@cursive wharf barrow makes good rads right?

tru but you can also drop 11th gen intel in, we dont know performance for either so its a toss up

[sand falcon]

Yeah. my money's on zen3 though, especially if the 5nm rumors pan out

[viral ore]

intels 11th gen i9 might only be 12 cores tho

and for gaming, streaming, downloading in the background, and a possible trend of newer games taking advantage of all these new cores, higher core counts might be better

[sand falcon]

zen3 could be upwards of twenty+....

[viral ore]

so setting him up to snag zen 3 with 32 cores? might be a good idea lol

[deep skiff]

yuh games will take advantage of the more cores

but also the 10600k tuned beats the 3950x in basically every game so

[viral ore]

the only reason games use up to 4 cores on average is because that's all that was usually available

[deep skiff]

ipc+clock speeds are really whats going to matter, and 32 cores mainstream would kill tr

[viral ore]

i cant english today

thats true

amd probably wouldnt push it that high

[sand falcon]

Beats an untuned 3950x

[viral ore]

but why a 10600k when 10700k?

2 extra cores, ya know

[sand falcon]

Unless of course tr also gets more cores

[viral ore]

cpus become like gpus, thousands of cores

imagine

[deep skiff]

10600k with decent memory tuning and cache tuning still beats a tuned 3950x, and iirc amd said they had no desire to go beyond 16 cores for zen3

[sand falcon]

Maybe not thousands. We're getting close to physical limitation for transistor size, and CPU cores need a considerable amount more overhead silicon than GPU cores

[viral ore]

ok, but why not a 10700k

that extra 2/4 will definetly see some use

[sand falcon]

@azure sapphire If we ever say anything here that you want to know what it means, don't hesitate to ask

[viral ore]

lol yeah

[deep skiff]

i just gave the 10600k as an example

[viral ore]

i see

of course, does he want to spend the time learning how to tune it, or does anyone want to spend a day tuning it with him?

[deep skiff]

the point is more cores dont mean better gaming performance rn

[sand falcon]

This is true

[viral ore]

i know that

also, considering budget, amd no longer has that advantage

[sand falcon]

It will make the stream and background processes better off though

[azure sapphire]

What's a 10600k?

[viral ore]

but, for now lets just think stock

its intels latest i5 cpu

[sand falcon]

I mid rangish but decent intel CPU

[viral ore]

it just released like a week ago

[sand falcon]

It's pretty good

But not the most powerful out there

Another question: Will you be doing any video editing?

[toxic widget]

New case!

[azure sapphire]

Depends on if I feel like recording for youtube or not.

[deep skiff]

okay so here what i came up with https://pcpartpicker.com/list/23RXtp

[azure sapphire]

Lets just say yes I'll end up doing video editing.

[viral ore]

i mean yeah

[sand falcon]

Are those capture cards you have there?

[viral ore]

powerful lol

[azure sapphire]

Oh also music stuff.

[viral ore]

why are their 3 cpu coolers listed?

[azure sapphire]

Recording, editing, stuff like that

[sand falcon]

Okay if video editing do you want to throw more cores at it?

[viral ore]

wait, the g12 is a case fan

no

is that an aio kit for the gpu??

[deep skiff]

the g12 is an aio bracket, the second rad is for gpu

[viral ore]

dope

[deep skiff]

yuh if you really want the looks

[viral ore]

rads at the top and bottom

now he needs 3 case fans

[sand falcon]

Do we want to do an aio for the GPU? Remember no prior experience

[deep skiff]

but also its still like $1k under budget, so when the 2080 ti gets outclassed in a few generations or next gen, you have money to upgrade it with the original budget

[viral ore]

and resell the 2080 ti

for like 6-700

[deep skiff]

yeah i didnt know how much looks cared, you can easily just take it out and pick a different gpu like the msi trio x (better cooling)

[viral ore]

at LEAST

[deep skiff]

yea

[viral ore]

also, why that motherboard? i still know very little about z490 boards

[deep skiff]

because even the highest end builds eventually get outclassed by cheaper parts, so spending all the budget without money to upgrade is kinda a no for me

[sand falcon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dPfgcq
Rough hack for the AMD side

[deep skiff]

@viral ore i dont really know much about z490 but it looked good overall

[viral ore]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qRhmP6/gigabyte-z490-vision-g-atx-lga1200-motherboard-z490-vision-g

[sand falcon]

It's a bit pricier, but I figured might as well throw in a heavy psu for future expansion at this budget

Also, you know, 4000MHz ram

[deep skiff]

hopefully gn or somebody makes a z490 mobo review so people know which are good

[sand falcon]

yeah

Could probably trust the usual good lines, but....

dunno

I honestly just threw the first mobo I found from the list

[viral ore]

ok ok, imma do one

[celest horizon]

Why would you get 4000mhz memory on zen2

[little leaf]

Jeez ddr4 5k support on that board

[celest horizon]

Unless you plan to set manual speed/timings

[sand falcon]

For the update to zen3

[celest horizon]

I have that mobo, it's nice

I guess that's fine as long as you set manual clock to 3600, or 3800 with an FCLK OC to 1900mhz

Get 2x16 if you're going to do that

All of asus /GB x570 is daisy chain

[sand falcon]

2x16 coming right up

[stable imp]

Do you guys know what fixes FPS speed I’m kinda new to pc

[sand falcon]

@stable imp What are your system specs?

[stable imp]

8gig ram and like 8cpus idk the gpu

I just know it’s not good

[sand falcon]

Can you get the part number for the cpu and gpu? You should be able to find them in the task manager

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M7v7Jb
2x16 version

[stable imp]

👍

[deep skiff]

also 1600w psu

[sand falcon]

Just a 1200W

[deep skiff]

o

still little overkill :v

[sand falcon]

It's like 100 dollars more and will handle whatever updates he throws in there

This whole system is overkill tbh

I was going for a killer system now that can be upgraded without any hassle to an even more killer system down the line

[celest horizon]

I'll eat my shoe if they actually build this

[sand falcon]

I'm thinking it's gonna happen

[deep skiff]

okay now he better build it

[celest horizon]

I'm not

[deep skiff]

[sand falcon]

@stable imp Any news on the parts?

[azure sapphire]

Do we have a current price on this build?

[sand falcon]

@deep skiff What was yours?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M7v7Jb
The one I have here is 4000, but I went overkill on a few of the parts for future proofing

[deep skiff]

like 3900 with the gpu aio and 3700 without

[viral ore]

this one would look sick
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wDQ2Mc

[sand falcon]

Both are without a monitor and other peripherals though

[viral ore]

and obviously vertical mounted gpu

[azure sapphire]

As long as I have extra to spend on monitors

[sand falcon]

Might want to have a slightly bigger rad

[viral ore]

what kind of monitors are you thinking?

really big ones?

high refresh rate

im thinking 1440p, 24 inch, 165hz

[sand falcon]

Too big of a monitor isn't great for gaming

24 is good

[azure sapphire]

Need a dual setup

[viral ore]

what about an ultrawide monitor?

[sand falcon]

pls no

[azure sapphire]

Can't go too big my desk is only so big

[deep skiff]

probably 1440p144hz ips / 1080p240hz and a secondary 60hz 1440/1080p

[azure sapphire]

running 2 22inch monitors right now. Filla up the desk pretty much

[sand falcon]

What monitors do you have right now?

[azure sapphire]

old ones.

[deep skiff]

also finding good monitors that are smaller than 24 is gonna be really hard fyi

[viral ore]

so, would you want to continue using those as secondary monitors and just get one new one?

[sand falcon]

That would be a good plan

[azure sapphire]

no i need both to be replaced

[sand falcon]

Are they fritzy?

[azure sapphire]

they run off VGA ports and dont have the HDMI

[sand falcon]

Oh

[viral ore]

OH.

hahaha, nice

[sand falcon]

Do they have anything but VGA?

[azure sapphire]

DVI

[sand falcon]

DVI should work

[celest horizon]

Use displayport

[viral ore]

yeah, you can get splitters

well, adapters

[azure sapphire]

Meh id rather upgrade tbf

[sand falcon]

Okay

[celest horizon]

VGA is 15 years obsolete tech

Analog signal

[viral ore]

15?

[sand falcon]

Older than that

[viral ore]

more like 25

[deep skiff]

displayport>literally every other port

[viral ore]

or do you mean it was obsolete 15 years ago?

[sand falcon]

I know nothing about monitors, so I'll let you guys handle them

[viral ore]

because i mean kinda

[sand falcon]

Will you need a new keyboard or mouse?

[celest horizon]

Check the pins in #old-monitors-and-tv for resources on monitors

[viral ore]

oh

very cool

[sand falcon]

Yeah, that;s all I have to go on though. I actually have some experience with parts

[viral ore]

i just stole all those links lol

[sand falcon]

Granted, I've never worked with consumer parts this powerful

[viral ore]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CwgPxr/dell-s2417dg-238-165hz-monitor-s2417dg

[azure sapphire]

new keyboard yes

mouse no

[sand falcon]

Do you have a preferred keycap?

[azure sapphire]

?

[viral ore]

and keyswitch

[sand falcon]

I think he wants browns

🙂

[celest horizon]

That monitor's kinda old tech, for gaming at that budget, check out the LG gl850, asus xg279q - theo has one

[sand falcon]

Hey Theo, we're talking about you

[viral ore]

27 inch is too big

[azure sapphire]

What's keyswitch and keycap?

[celest horizon]

27" at 2k is ideal IME - but everything monitor is subjective

1080p I'd go 24 or lower, 4k I'd get 32"

[sand falcon]

The little switches that go inside you keyboard for when you press the keys

[viral ore]

no, too big for his/her desk

[sand falcon]

They change how it feels

[azure sapphire]

I type at 50 WPM so anything that makes the keys not bulky and help with my typing

[sand falcon]

What keyboard do you have right now?

[celest horizon]

I'd get something like this https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Premium-Single-Monitor-Stand/dp/B00MIBN16O

I use two of the HP version

[viral ore]

https://monitorarms.co/

[azure sapphire]

I'm always hitting extra keys. A standard dell issued one

[sand falcon]

I have one of those too

I left my blues in the office 😢

[azure sapphire]

it's too bulky for my liiking

[sand falcon]

Do you have a microcenter close to where you live?

[azure sapphire]

God no

[deep skiff]

@azure sapphire by bulky do you mean too many keys?

[azure sapphire]

No I mean too close together

[sand falcon]

So not being able to test out the swithces will be interesting...

[azure sapphire]

I like a spaced out keyboard

[deep skiff]

well any mechanical keyboard would have the keys next to each other so probably a membrane keyboard

[sand falcon]

Would you prefer easy to press keys or keys with a bit of resistance?

[celest horizon]

https://www.amazon.com/Cherry-Switch-Tester-keyboard-Sampler/dp/B01GZHU1EG

[azure sapphire]

easy by far. something to get my wpm up

[sand falcon]

Depending on your typing style, you can actually sometimes get faster speeds on a higher resistance key baord

[celest horizon]

Typists generally like blues

[sand falcon]

I usually get around 40-60. Blues are amazing

[viral ore]

why isnt the meshify c on pcpp

[sand falcon]

Add it custom

[viral ore]

idk how lol

[sand falcon]

Custom part at the bottom. You paste the link and it usually works

[viral ore]

i dont see it

ive been looking at the page for 10 mins now

[sand falcon]

Oh, that's right. You have to be logged in

[viral ore]

heck

[sand falcon]

Supposedly it's a security thing

[stoic island]

What

@viral ore wdym

[little osprey]

Can someone help me

[viral ore]

huh

theyre back

[stoic island]

Maybe

[viral ore]

at 2:40, they were not there

i checked multiple times

[stoic island]

@viral ore you might've had the compatibility thing on and that case isn't compatible

[viral ore]

no, really

i turned off compatability filter and just searched for meshify

the only thing that showed up was the S2

[stoic island]

Weird

Meshify was there yesterday when I was making lists

It's here now

Hmm

[viral ore]

i swear

lol

i spent like 15 mins looking for it

[little osprey]

What should i change on this parts list

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YqP4wh

[viral ore]

thats actually quite decent

did you do that yourself?

[little osprey]

yeah

i just dont know what power supply to get

and people are telling me to get a cheaper 2060s or a 2070s

[viral ore]

oh

yeah, that seems kinda expensive for a 2060s

[little osprey]

yeah

whats a good 2060s

[stoic island]

Get a 2070s lol

500$

Motherboard out of stock

[viral ore]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hHwfgJ

[little osprey]

@viral ore would i need a bios update

[viral ore]

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B450-AORUS-M-rev-10#kf

no

[stoic island]

@viral ore get rid of best buy they out of stock

[viral ore]

yeah im working on it

[stoic island]

Lol

Just disable best buy in preferences

Ez

[viral ore]

well

i would rather see the most parts i possibly could

and they arent always oos

[stoic island]

Right now

They 99.99% are out of stock

[viral ore]

yeah right now

[stoic island]

I've yet to see best buy be in stock

[viral ore]

when will they be back in stock? idk

so i leave it on

[stoic island]

You can enable it once they get stock

I disable until they get stock

[viral ore]

how would i know if i disabled it

[stoic island]

Because it makes prices wack

Preferences

[viral ore]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hBNHtp

ok i made a few tweaks

wasnt sure about case, but if you like the meshify c then its fine

its just expensive

[little osprey]

yeah

what case would you recomend

[viral ore]

well, i actually really like the meshify c, but its like 100 bux

[little osprey]

yeah

[viral ore]

do you care what it looks like?

would just a simple metal box suffice?

[stoic island]

Td500 mesh if you want rgb

Focus g at a bad price sadly

[viral ore]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WQjkK4

there, its a super cheap performance build

[stoic island]

P2 is alright, mp34 might be better

Too lazy to check

[viral ore]

imma look

P2 has a longer warranty for cheaper

and has better write endurance

but is slower

wait

no, the P2 has worse write endurance nvm

[little osprey]

so what m.2 should i get

[viral ore]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NdnBp8

this

the MP34 was only like a few dollars more

it has a shorter warranty, but it shouldnt fail after 3 years, let alone 5

[wary geode]

Don’t you just love when Mirco center when they don’t give you a e receipt and you have to return a believed power supply

[little osprey]

@viral ore is the silicon power one good

[viral ore]

just get the MP34

its a solid drive

its worth the extra

the only silicon power m.2 worth buying is the A80

however, the cheapest A80 is currently more than both the P2 and MP34

[little osprey]

but is it better

[viral ore]

no

[little osprey]

ok

what psu do you recommend

[viral ore]

the one i sent...

in the pcpp link

[little osprey]

$60 seems to cheap

[silk estuary]

@cloud drum I've got the same cooler, ram, and case. Nice.

[viral ore]

yes, its one of the cheapest reliable psus right now

it has a gimmicky name, but if it works it works

[latent storm]

should i get a gtx 1650 or rx 570 for my buddy with a prebuilt

[viral ore]

hmmm

the listing on amazon is sold by someone with 68% positive feedback

i do not like that

[latent storm]

he’s new to pc stuff so i don’t wanna get him something with driver issues, and i’ve heard there’s been driver issues with amd cards recently but idk if that’s resolved

[viral ore]

the rx 570 is like 3 years old

[latent storm]

ok?

[viral ore]

so there are no driver issues

[latent storm]

does that mean it’ll be without driver issues

alright cool

[viral ore]

what kinda psu does this prebuild have?

the RX 570 requires an 8 pin

[latent storm]

iirc it’s a thermaltake 500w 80+ white

i haven’t actually seen the system, just know the specs :/

[viral ore]

cpu?

[latent storm]

r3 3200g

the system was about $605 for him

[viral ore]

well, the rx 570 will perform better

make sure you get the 8gb version

[latent storm]

i was looking at this one

[viral ore]

you can get them on ebay for much less

[latent storm]

should i go second hand?

[viral ore]

i will pick you one

[stoic island]

570 can go for around 130 new lol

[latent storm]

yikes

[stoic island]

1650 super might be nice

Around 140 or so

[latent storm]

the xfx rx 570 is $130

that’s for the 4gb one tho

[stoic island]

1650s > 580 > 570 iirc

[viral ore]

really?

huh

[latent storm]

i’m seeing the 1650s for around $160-190

on newegg anyways

[stoic island]

Eh prices prob increased

[fast dust]

1650s is a really nice value for money card

[viral ore]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sapphire-Nitro-Radeon-RX-470-D5-OC-8GB-GDDR5-11256-17-20G/333604921557?hash=item4dac6720d5:g:NAYAAOSw87xezv89

thats not bad for the price

[latent storm]

what kind of io is in that card?

[viral ore]

DVI, HDMI, 3x DP

pretty standard

oh it might be 2x HDMI 2x DP

[latent storm]

alright

is xfx like the reference radeon cards?

just curious

[stoic island]

Nah actual company

[latent storm]

ah alrighty

[little osprey]

what are some good case fans

[stoic island]

Arctic p12 120mm p14 140mm

[viral ore]

anything noctua

[little osprey]

Are the p12 quiet

[stoic island]

Yes

[little osprey]

and do they have good air flow

?

[viral ore]

i mean, if they didnt they wouldnt be suggested to you

[little osprey]

thats true

thank you

[lethal crypt]

anyone got good specs for budget pc abt $450-500 range? don’t know if i’m cutting corners where i should to make up for my gpu. thoughts?

[sand falcon]

We were actually just now having fun with budget builds 🙂 It's definitely quite possible. Do you have any parts you can reuse?

[lethal crypt]

no i meant to be asking for good parts for a build i that price range

[stoic island]

Heh

Old Intel machines

[lethal crypt]

anything other than optiplex? i want to actually build it from scratch

[light nymph]

Need help, If my nvme is showing in bios but doesn't let me set it to boot priority.(im building my first pc)

How do I set it

[sand falcon]

What motherboard do you have?

[light nymph]

X570 tuf gaming wifi

Nvme is aorus 500gb

[sand falcon]

It should be bootable... There's an operating system installed on the ssd?

[light nymph]

No

Not yet

Im just testing my components

[sand falcon]

@storm wagon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N7TMIL7 Here's a 2016 model for $760

Will that work?

[storm wagon]

yes

whats the difference in it

[sand falcon]

It's from 2016 instead of 2013

[storm wagon]

so why its cheaper

[sand falcon]

Cheaper than what? The newer models?

[storm wagon]

no i mean why this model is cheaper on amazon

[sand falcon]

Than where?

[storm wagon]

amazon

[sand falcon]

What are you comparing it too?

[storm wagon]

the one you send me before

on new egg

[sand falcon]

The one from newegg has an SSD and is newer

[storm wagon]

ok

i am getting you just tell me the best deal with good feature model

i will buy it

you helped me a lot

thanks

[sand falcon]

The words "best deal" and "mac" don't really go together, but the amazon link I sent should do pretty decently for your workload. It might be a bit slow to startup, but once it's on it should be fine.

Glad I could help!

[storm wagon]

yes i do email ,browsing , but i used 3 party app like chat support crm that kind of stuff for my ecomm websites

so keep that thing in mind

so now for which model i should go

[sand falcon]

The chat support is just voice and text?

[storm wagon]

yes text mostly

and some email maketing app

and crm applications

all i have to use

[sand falcon]

Are you able to say which crm apps?

[storm wagon]

means customer relationship application like 3 party app by zen desk ,drift

klaviyo

etc

[sand falcon]

zen desk and drift should both work fine.

[storm wagon]

so everything will be on in my desktop

[sand falcon]

Haven't heard about klaviyo, but I imagine it would be okay too

It's not the most powerful desktop in the world, but as long as you don't need to do any heavy video editing it should be fine

[storm wagon]

ok but i want a fast one

i can spend 100 more

also i want to buy 1 marshal speaker and 1 apple watch

[sand falcon]

Do you have additional budget for those?

[storm wagon]

yes

i have

apple watch i prefer any refurb

[sand falcon]

Apple watch I know nothing about

So I'm afraid I can't help there

[storm wagon]

ok

[sand falcon]

The imac is a reasonably fast system, it's just not a threadripper.

[storm wagon]

ok

should i go with the one on amazon you recomend

or any other option you can tell

[sand falcon]

Might as well. Amazon has pretty good return policies, and the rest of the sites are more or less the same price

[storm wagon]

i mean that model is good to go

should i buy that

[sand falcon]

Read over the reviews real quick first if you want, but you should be good to go

[storm wagon]

ok

thanks for you support

[sand falcon]

No problem. Best of luck!

[storm wagon]

but it not come with magic mouse and keyboard

i can spend more money can you suggest any other deal

[sand falcon]

Do you already have keyboard?

[storm wagon]

no

[sand falcon]

Hmm

It seems to have a keyboard with it

[storm wagon]

not wireless but

[sand falcon]

Wireless keyboards aren't really all that great from my experience

[storm wagon]

ok

then i go with this model

[latent storm]

sale

[worthy inlet]

my budget isnt low

[austere condor]

i mean

whats "Good" has a lot of different meanings

[worthy inlet]

I bought a prebuilt from best buy

haha true

[austere condor]

could say a 3175X and SLI TItan RTX's are good

[worthy inlet]

yeah rn I have amd radeon 580 rx

and cpu in ryzen 5 3600

[austere condor]

RX 580 is a great GPU

so

ok

why do you want to upgrade?

[worthy inlet]

yeah but I stutter a lot on games and Idk why

I have ethernet so I dont think thats the issue

[austere condor]

possibly you're only using single channel ram

[worthy inlet]

explain

[austere condor]

only one stick of ram in the PC/

?

[worthy inlet]

I dont have a lot of knowledge tbh jsut watch videos and read articles

hmmm let me look

I think its just one stick so ig that could be the issue

[austere condor]

thats the culprit then

DDR4 stands for double data rate 4.

to get double data rate, you need two stick of memory.

CPu's benifit from having high speed ram too, running at high clocks, with low latency.

you'r best upgrade you should be looking for is a kit of 2x8GB DDR4-3200 CL15 or CL16, or a kit of 2x8GB DDR4-3600 CL16 or CL18

if you're only using a single stick of ram, say, you're using a 1x8GB DDR4-2133, that ram stick is only running at 1066mhz, since it doesnt have a partner

[worthy inlet]

oh ok

so I shouldnt upgrade gpu?

[austere condor]

you upgrade your GPU based on what monitor you have

[worthy inlet]

im working this summer and making good money so I was thinking I could just upgrad everything

I have a 200hz sceptre monitor

[deep skiff]

i'd get another stick of ram first and see if that fixes the issue

[austere condor]

the Ryzen 5 3600 is currently the best price/performance gaming/productivity CPU on the market

no need to upgrade that

[worthy inlet]

really?

[austere condor]

the RX 580 is one of the best price/performance graphics card for 1080p 60fps gaming

[stoic island]

ssd maybe?

(Demonmit 580 might be the best used price/perf rn, new 1650s might beat it)

[austere condor]

1650s/RX 580 trade blows

but yeah

[stoic island]

Used market it's like <100$

really good

[austere condor]

RX 580 will pan out better in the long run though

8GB Vram

AMD finewine and all that

[worthy inlet]

?

[stoic island]

tho g6 vram might do smth in the future

[bronze rain]

i wouldnt change gpus anyways. free sync has cheaper options for monitors

[stoic island]

We'll have to see what direction we go, larger stored vram, or just faster vram and loading a bit at a time

G-sync compatibility ;)

[worthy inlet]

I have a sceptre 200 hz freee sync curved ultrawide monitor I jsut bought

[stoic island]

99% of freesync monitors has g-sync compatibility.

the monitor is fine.

[worthy inlet]

yeah

[stoic island]

So, are you using hdd or ssd?

[worthy inlet]

and there are drivers for geforce gpuys Ive read abt that can tap into freesync usage

[austere condor]

if you want to upgrade your GPU, with a 200hz monitor, and you want to get 200fps in games, you'd really be looking at the RTX 2060 super, RX 5700xt, or a RTX 2070 super to get those FPS at 1080p consistently in modern AAA games

[worthy inlet]

umm ssd i think

heres the pc I bought from best buy

oh wait I cant send the link lol

its on best buy for 749.99 the first one that ops up

[stoic island]

this?
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-3600-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-580-2tb-hdd-240gb-ssd-black/6362427.p?skuId=6362427

[worthy inlet]

yeah

[austere condor]

oof, yeah, get a new kit of ram

that will massively improve your performance

and completely remove the studdering you're getting

[stoic island]

single stick random oem 3000mhz ram is gonna be horrible

[austere condor]

its not OEM

its AData

[worthy inlet]

whats the difference

[stoic island]

This is good
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880

@austere condor Usually prebuilts have random sticks of ram that don't tend to match what's on the market, so I just call them OEM :P

[austere condor]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LZIY86F

its a single stick of that

[stoic island]

interesting

anyways I'd go with the g.skill 3600mhz cl16 kit

[atomic oasis]

Thanks to all that helped with information, and some ideas. I stuck with original build plan.. yes not AMD... the prices were right for me, and components were what I wanted... 😄

[buoyant flame]

Some cheap oem boards not support up to 3600mhz ram tho

[little osprey]

sorry to interrupt but i have a question

[atomic oasis]

and they were in stock, so bought them the other day 🙂

[little leaf]

@atomic oasis whatd you go with?

[austere condor]

looks like an asrock or asus B450 @buoyant flame

[stoic island]

Justegg I don't think they do on amd boards

[austere condor]

so it should be fine

[stoic island]

because low end intel does

[buoyant flame]

I didnt actually look lol I was just pointing it out

[atomic oasis]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TKbsrV

[stoic island]

no am4 boards I know of does

[little leaf]

@atomic oasis what gpu?

[atomic oasis]

using old 1050ti till 3000 series comes out

[austere condor]

i would have gotten a different CPU/mobo/cooler imho

[little leaf]

ye

[atomic oasis]

have a HAF 932 advanced full tower case...

[worthy inlet]

this is what I mean tho why dont I just buy new motherboard, gpu and cpu because I have money and then Ill have updated parts or more mainstream ig

[little leaf]

@austere condor the cooler works fine

I have that cooler

around 60 in game

[stoic island]

I mean

[buoyant flame]

There's not really a more updated cpu that would be much better for you rn tho

Yet

[atomic oasis]

I have a 120 CM AIO liquid cooling now. .works fine

[little osprey]

sorry to interrupt but i have a question

[austere condor]

ML240 Lite is not a reputable CPU cooler

[buoyant flame]

Whats the question @little osprey

[worthy inlet]

wdym @buoyant flame

[austere condor]

they didnt get their nickname masterleaker for being good

lol

[little leaf]

@austere condor the one in the list isn't the lite version

[buoyant flame]

No sense in upgrading from a 3600 rn

[atomic oasis]

@austere condor it's the version 2 one...

[little osprey]

@buoyant flame so im buying this gpu https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tTCFf7/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2070-super-8-gb-windforce-oc-3x-video-card-gv-n207swf3oc-8gd and it says it has a 6 + 8 pin

[stoic island]

ML240L?

[little osprey]

and my power supply has 4 6+2 pins

[stoic island]

that works

[buoyant flame]

Your fine

[stoic island]

o it's back in stock on wegg :D

[little osprey]

so would i combine 1 6+2 pin to make a 8 pin and then just plug in 1 6 pin

?

[buoyant flame]

Yes

[stoic island]

Yes

[little osprey]

and then the +2 would just be hanging there?

[buoyant flame]

Pretty much

[little leaf]

yes

my +2 is just haging there

[stoic island]

just leave the 2 hangin

[atomic oasis]

@little leaf I was going to shoot for 2060s.. but think the 3000 series may be worth waiting for

[little osprey]

ok

[buoyant flame]

You can zip tie it to the other cable to keep it from hanging in the open tho

[little osprey]

ok

ok

thank you

[buoyant flame]

Welcome

[little leaf]

@atomic oasis I mean those launch dates are still just rumors

[atomic oasis]

yeah, means a bit more saving up to do 😄

[little osprey]

@buoyant flame if you dont mind can you read over my pcpp list and tell me what to change

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VxkrBZ

[buoyant flame]

I'll have a look

[worthy inlet]

why is my currenct cpu and gpu better than the mor expensive one, forget price

[atomic oasis]

and if the performance is that much more.. worth the wait...

[stoic island]

..?

[buoyant flame]

Pretty decent list @little osprey

[stoic island]

@worthy inlet wdym more expensive one

[little osprey]

@buoyant flame thank you

[worthy inlet]

like idk ryzen 7 or 9s or intel i7 or i9s

[buoyant flame]

Np

[little osprey]

@buoyant flame is there anything i should change

[stoic island]

They're a ton more expensive

a ton more

[buoyant flame]

It looks pretty good tbh. Nothing jumps out to me

[little osprey]

ok

[worthy inlet]

but idrc abt price rn @stoic island

[stoic island]

so you're willing to spend say 1000$ more for 1% gain?

..?

[worthy inlet]

is it that little of a margin?

or are u exxaggerating

[little leaf]

@stoic island thats not true

[hidden relic]

Working on a build for my kid. He turns 9 end of next month.
wants to build for his bday. Pricing this at $600.
any areas i can save some more? have a asus 60hz monitor he will use with it and already mouse and keyboard. was hoping to get to $500 on the build
h ttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/BnjCn7

[stoic island]

From 3600 to 3950x in terms of gaming performance, it's around 5% gain for a 500+$ more expensive cpu

[little leaf]

@hidden relic thats going to be around 700 dollars

also no need for cooler

[stoic island]

:p

[little leaf]

you could go cheaper on the cpu

[hidden relic]

i got it in the cart between microcenter and amazon exactly 600 and some change

[stoic island]

@worthy inlet anyways just get new ram

[little leaf]

@hidden relic really?

[stoic island]

it should fix the stuttering

[atomic oasis]

Curious if anyone ordered from newegg, and taking over 2 days to "process" even though the money was already taken out?

[stoic island]

next thing if you want to upgrade should be GPU

[little leaf]

@hidden relic no need for that cooler

[stoic island]

CPU is just fine

[hidden relic]

it came built in with the ryzen didnt mean to leave it on there

[stoic island]

I would pair a 3600+2080 super

[hidden relic]

not in the cart

[little leaf]

ok that ram though

that ram is really bad

don't buy that ram

its insanely bad

and a bad deal

[hidden relic]

okay. what would be better then. thank you

[stoic island]

which ram squid

[worthy inlet]

😦 idk I just want real high performance gaming, lik eable to run highest and best quality settings with no problems, will the sticks of ram really do that?

[little leaf]

dd4 2400

lmao

[stoic island]

oh my

lol

[little leaf]

for 70 usd

[stoic island]

@worthy inlet ram will fix the stuttering

[buoyant flame]

New ram and a new gpu are you best bet for sure@worthy inlet

[stoic island]

higher average fps takes better gpu

[hidden relic]

dont pay attention to the pricing in the parts builder but those are the parts i've got in carts

[stoic island]

@hidden relic this kit of ram is good for you too
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880

[little leaf]

mr its 600 dollar build

[stoic island]

oh

then aegis

[little leaf]

ye

aight just got thai food cya

[stoic island]

this

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232884

lemme make a list

[hidden relic]

yeah. trying to keep it low. its going to be a glorified roblox player for a while...

[atomic oasis]

I was going to get the aegis one too, but went with the other ones instead

[hidden relic]

only becasue of price, what about this: Patriot Viper Steel Series DDR4 8GB (2 x 4GB) 3200MHz Memory Kit - PVS48G320C6K

amazon for $47

[little leaf]

I would say more ram

[atomic oasis]

i'd suggest 16gig total RAM

[little leaf]

I think 16 gigs

[hidden relic]

i have a asus g14 zeph. this is for my 9 year old. wanting to have his own build (just gave my old fx6300 build to my nephew...didnt expect my kid to want it)

[atomic oasis]

I went 32 just having a bit extra room since I have 32 now...

[little leaf]

@hidden relic just make him like a hundred buck igpu build

[stoic island]

wtf is with psu prices

[little leaf]

since he wants roblox only

[atomic oasis]

PSU prices went way up

[stoic island]

like

nothing under 50$ come on

[hidden relic]

he plays minecraft and roblox....but figured by 10 he will be doing more

[stoic island]

cx450 is gone again

[atomic oasis]

supply must be low, so prices went up... that is why I am using the 700w I have now...

[little leaf]

@stoic island when I got my psu the rmx 850 almost everything was already sold out

now the psu I got for 120 is now 160

[deep skiff]

@stoic island rip

[atomic oasis]

I'll probably get a new PSU when the newer graphics cards come out...

[stoic island]

lol cx450 listing on pcpp is broken

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-cx-series-cx450-450w/p/N82E16817139201

its backordered 2 weeks not too bad

[atomic oasis]

nope... I lucked out and all were in stock so ordered..

[stoic island]

heres a thing
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JpfLXv

[atomic oasis]

the MB I wanted, they went up to almost 300... so at the regular 179.. i hit the button

[hidden relic]

similar build. at his age, you think i'll be okay for a while with the ryzen 3

?

[stoic island]

ofc

3300x is great for gaming

it might even beat 3600 in single core perf I forgot if it did

[hidden relic]

okay. good stuff thank you!

[stoic island]

single ccx OP

[hidden relic]

and stick with the 1650 vs a 580?

[stoic island]

1650s

[hidden relic]

looks like they are priced same roughly

[stoic island]

It beats 580 slightly afaik

[deep skiff]

1650 is a failure of a card and thats why the 1650 super exists

[stoic island]

yea 1650s means 1650 super

[atomic oasis]

why was the 1650 a failure?? curious

[hidden relic]

man i'm glad i jumped on this chat before ordering. Thank you for the help Mr1111

[deep skiff]

it was overpriced for bad performance

[stoic island]

You're welcome

1650 g6 might be better now

[atomic oasis]

gotcha...

[deep skiff]

the rx 570 had a $30 lower msrp and was like 10% faster, and the 570 has been out for almost 3 years now

[atomic oasis]

I have the 1050ti and I think it works pretty good...

[stoic island]

Hello again Hei

your name is messed up again

[cursive wharf]

@deep skiff Barrow rads arent bad. Only thing idk about is fin density compared to other companies

[deep skiff]

yeah he has like 8 spaces idk why

[stoic island]

oh wait

theres actual spaces there

[cursive wharf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500102940078505984/716252355774906368/unknown.png

[stoic island]

can you eddit it out?

lolol

@celest horizon forky

y

[deep skiff]

[cursive wharf]

He gave his reasoning

[stoic island]

what was it

[cursive wharf]

said it was glitchy on mobile so he just did it so it was "glitchy" everywhere else

[stoic island]

lolol

[deep skiff]

well dunno if its good reasoning but its reasoning

[stoic island]

I mean

alright

it bugs me a bit now

[cursive wharf]

lol

[little osprey]

is there anything i should change to this build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VxkrBZ

[stoic island]

just like zack's name

psu and fan prices are wack

parts look good tho

[deep skiff]

its best buy

[stoic island]

ye

[cursive wharf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VcJZ3t

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Liamamckee/saved/NcCRTW

Should I change anything, will everything work?

[stoic island]

Hei

best buy again xD

[little osprey]

Planning on 128gb in the future

Its an editing rig for 250+ layer projects

[cursive wharf]

with the amount of money spent on custom GPU and CPU cooler you could get custom liquid cooling

@little osprey

[stoic island]

yea lol

[little osprey]

Wdym

[stoic island]

and best buy strikes again

[little osprey]

Is that bad or good

[stoic island]

sold out

[little osprey]

Yeah not buying it now

Will buy soon

Do all the parts look good?

[cursive wharf]

Also iirc one of the techies or unofficial techies complained about that GPU being meh on GPU cooling

[stoic island]

might as well buy like reference 2080s and do custom loop

ya know

[little osprey]

Not doing custom loop

Im an idiot

[zinc urchin]

I want budget pc under budget of 500 very budget

[stoic island]

also screw that case

like why

[little osprey]

Pure looks

I can care less about thermals

[zinc urchin]

i used budget 3 times..

[worthy inlet]

ok yall were a great help and I thank you for that... buuuuuuuuuuuuuuut if I were to hypothetically upgrade motherboard, gpu, and cpu... and possibly thyer things I dont not know much abt like ram and stuff...... what should I upgrade to

[stoic island]

budget?

[worthy inlet]

me?

[zinc urchin]

upgrade to corsair corsair is the best

[stoic island]

ye

[worthy inlet]

I make like 350 a week for the rest of summer pretty much so

idk

a lot

lets say $3200

[little osprey]

Will everything work in my build?

[stoic island]

for motherboard, ssd, gpu, ram?

[little osprey]

everything

[stoic island]

@little osprey why not x73 then

[little osprey]

whats that

Ah

[cloud drum]

hello

[little osprey]

Because the h510 elite

[stoic island]

lol

[little osprey]

Im mounting the radiator on the front

[stoic island]

can't even get the good locking aios

[little osprey]

What im asking is will it all work?

Looks is opinions

[hidden relic]

little trouble finding the ryzen 3 3300x. in stock. but finding the 3 3200. any reason to not grab that?

[stoic island]

you'll have to check mem support list

32gb ram sticks are iffy

@hidden relic 3200..?

that exists?

b&h is doing 3300x preorder rn
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1558666-REG/amd_ryzen_3_3300x_quad_core.html

[deep skiff]

3200g?

[stoic island]

maybe

3200g is really bad compared to 3300x

[hidden relic]

okay.

[stoic island]

More expensive, slower, last-gen iPC, multiple CCXs :p

[hidden relic]

hoping to build no later than june 26

[deep skiff]

yeah 3200g is zen+ so not the 7nm stuff, and it has a igpu

[hidden relic]

i see that now.

[celest horizon]

@cursive wharf Why don't you just reset it?

[cursive wharf]

I could

but that'd be no fun

[celest horizon]

I don't understand what the big deal is

[cursive wharf]

Dont think it is much of a big deal

[celest horizon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[glass laurel]

Anyone wanna see the build I got I don’t know to much about pcs but I know the basics if anyone wants to rate my build im also gonna get note parts for it over time

[sand falcon]

Sure

[glass laurel]

Alright

I can’t send partpicker links

[sand falcon]

Take the http off

[glass laurel]

Ok

[sand falcon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Brennan0824/saved/#view=fMyvWZ

There we go

[glass laurel]

Alright

[sand falcon]

You'll be able to post links once you talk a while and determine you're "okay"

[glass laurel]

Ok good

[sand falcon]

What will you be using this build for?

[thick gorge]

Whats the highest I can overclock my ryzen 1600

I'm at 3.5 right now

with no voltage change

[glass laurel]

Oh I’ve already built it

[sand falcon]

@thick gorge Watch the thermals and see how hard you can press it. How much you can get will depend on your cooling solution

[glass laurel]

I’m just want to know like what upgrades I should start with first I’m not to familiar with upgrades

[mortal rampart]

thats ur current pc?

[glass laurel]

Yes

[mortal rampart]

ohh ok ok

upgrade the gpu

[sand falcon]

I'd probably upgrade your GPU first

[mortal rampart]

ya

1660S

2060ko

either one is fine

[thick gorge]

@sand falcon Right now I'm using the stock cooler. Not sure if I should push it any harder with just the wraith. I don't think an aftermarket cooler is worth it for the 1600. I guess that answers my question lmao