#building-and-recc-chat

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wary geode
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Power shortage what am I saying

fast dust
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Bruh x2

wary geode
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Power supply shortage and I ain’t finna drive 1 hour to get one from Mirco center unless I’m getting a 3600 for 150

fast dust
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Yeah I know looks matter, and I know you gotta keep the price down when flipping a computer, but if a consumer is going to use that PC for like 5 years, chances are that things gonna pop

austere willow
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Honestly, I'm thinking about giving the Maingear psu a try.

slate ice
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@fast dust statistically speaking, chances are it won't "pop"

wary geode
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I get ya but some people been using em for 3-4 years and their fine so as long as it’s finna last for 2-3 years I’m fine

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The warranty correct me if I’m wrong is 7 years

fast dust
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@slate ice I mean maybe not pop, but you eat eBay I mean

wary geode
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It’s not like it’s finna go kaboom

fast dust
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7 year warranty on TT smart?! what world are you living in?! iirc it’s 3 years

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You know what I gotta calm down.

wary geode
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I have “technical” 40 years on mine because I bought on leap year because that’s how it works

fast dust
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Lmao

wary geode
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My evga one

fast dust
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What evga one you got?

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Please tell me it’s not an N1

wary geode
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BQ but I’m getting a rmx one soon

fast dust
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Phew.

wary geode
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I was big dumb when I bought mine

fast dust
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Not the worst thing

wary geode
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Should’ve got g2

slate ice
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When I first started flipping I was putting insignia 520 PSUs in almost every build, that was almost 5 years ago. I put my email address on a card taped to the inside of the case. Guess how many people have called about a failed power supply.

wary geode
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Ehh it’s decent

fast dust
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Yeah same I got a freaking EVGA GD

wary geode
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Lol that’s still good

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It went kaboom

fast dust
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Definitely could have gotten better though

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Should’ve gotten a CX550

wary geode
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Same I got it worse tho I bought a 75 hz thinking it’ll be fine

fast dust
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It was on sale and the 80+ gold rating really did it for me

wary geode
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Worse decision of my life

fast dust
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I have a 75Hz too 😂

wary geode
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Lol yea

fast dust
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I’m getting 144Hz really soon tho

wary geode
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I’m getting a 144 soon I believe

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😂

fast dust
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Omg

wary geode
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Great minds think alike

fast dust
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TwINsIeS

atomic oasis
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anyone awake to give some idea on a build.. minus case/PS/GC? I have them atm, and waiting on 3000 series graphics...

fast dust
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What power supply

atomic oasis
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i have an OCZ 700w

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using it atm...

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i have a build in PC part pickers

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basically upgrading the main components

fast dust
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What’s ur budget

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What size case you got?

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What components do you have now?

atomic oasis
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i have a full tower, HAF 932 advance, 1050ti graphics, and the 700watt PSU

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that is the parts I picked for it ... already ordered the WD NVMe since it was on sale...

fast dust
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I’d get Ryzen tbh

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Better ptp

eager chasm
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I'd eventually try to upgrade that card, it's kinda bad

atomic oasis
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lots say AMD... i've had intel for years now... this one is a 2600k atm...

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oh the graphics card I plan on upgrading.. but waiting for 3000 series

fast dust
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Having intel for years doesn’t mean it’s bad to switch

atomic oasis
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oh no.. just mentioning it...

eager chasm
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Just because you've had something for years doesn't mean the new version of it is a good value

fast dust
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I used to be an intel guy but AMD is killing it rn

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^

atomic oasis
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I haven't pressed purchase yet... but that is what I keep going back to

fast dust
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):

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Seriously, intel CPUs and mobos are overpriced

atomic oasis
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the parts seem to have went up during the quarantine...

fast dust
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Get a Ryzen 3700X

woven crypt
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@

Seriously, intel CPUs and mobos are overpriced
@fast dust ^

eager chasm
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Also need factor in the cost of a cooler for Intel, which you don't have to do for most Ryzen

fast dust
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@atomic oasis please

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^^^

atomic oasis
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which chipset would the 3700x work best with?

fast dust
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X570

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Or a really nice B450 even

eager chasm
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B450 or X470 also work

fast dust
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Oh yeah forgot about X470

atomic oasis
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what's difference between the two? other than the 470 newer...

fast dust
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X470 actually older

compact hill
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I would get a b550 over x470

fast dust
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If b550 out yet?

atomic oasis
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how could that be older?? lol

little leaf
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ye b550 has gurranted support

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for gen 4

compact hill
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Not out yet

fast dust
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So does X570

compact hill
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Just for a tighter budget really

fast dust
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If he can spend money on a 9700K he can get an X570

atomic oasis
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I do like the z390 intel Tomahawk MB...

fast dust
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Look over some X570 boards. They look good too

atomic oasis
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doing that now on pc part picker

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the one I see has triple m.2's O.O most I think i'd need was 2

fast dust
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Triple M.2 gang

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Jk my mobo only has 2

eager chasm
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7TB+ gang

little leaf
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wait @atomic oasis wait are you going amd or intel?

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you are looking at amd boards but you said your getting a i79700k

atomic oasis
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I was leaning on intel...

little leaf
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what the build for?

fast dust
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He says he wants to go Intel, by we’re trying to convince him to make the right choice 😂

atomic oasis
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but was pricing up another build with the 3700x

little leaf
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gaming?

atomic oasis
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gaming 95% of the time

little leaf
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ok what the budget?

eager chasm
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He's looking at Intel, but we are just putting the option of AMD on the table for better value if he wants it

atomic oasis
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discord.. web browsing etc...

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1k... but I have case, PSU and graphics waiting for 3000 series

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AMD has some nice stuff too, have friends using AMD...

little leaf
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instead of i79700k go with a 3800x

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or your can go 3700x or 3600

fast dust
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Or 3700X to save a little precious money

little leaf
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and spend more on gpu

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I mean its 20 bucks more for the 3800x

atomic oasis
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GPU was eyeballing the 2060 supers... but 3000 coming out later in the year...

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why not go for 3900x???

hot falcon
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There’s probably going to be a 3000 Ryz el series refresh coming real soon just fyi

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Ryzen

atomic oasis
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refresh? they shine them up and label them fresher? lol sorry

hot falcon
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Lol

fast dust
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No need for 3900X.

hot falcon
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Better speed

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Faster clocks

fast dust
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Unless you are going for productivity and need those extra cores

hot falcon
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The 4000 is coming soon too

atomic oasis
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yeah, would be using it mostly for gaming and social media/discord type

fast dust
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3800X all you really need tbh

hot falcon
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Then the intel i5 10600k is not bad if it’s mostly gaming

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I’d recommend amd for everything else

atomic oasis
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them 10series intel... not seeing much high remarks for them...

stoic island
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3700x

fast dust
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14nm

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14nm

stoic island
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3800x isn't worth it

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@hot falcon motherboard price ;)

hot falcon
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Not that bad 300$

stoic island
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Bruh

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Not that bad

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Don't forget 100$ b450

atomic oasis
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the tomahawk one looks nice

hot falcon
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Well if it’s a really budget system I guess.. I’d go 550 if you want to future proof

stoic island
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No need lmao

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Remember, AMD is giving support for b450 4th gen

fast dust
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B550 not even out yet

hot falcon
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450 even though they’d say they’d give support it’s less likely that you’d get all features

woven crypt
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3800x isn't worth it
@stoic island It's $20 off with a compatible motherboard at Micro Center

fast dust
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@hot falcon Like?

atomic oasis
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wish I had a micro center near me

stoic island
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It has nothing over a 3700x

fast dust
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What features would be missed out on?

stoic island
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Unless 3800x is the only thing in stock, 3700x is a better option

hot falcon
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Pc gen 4

fast dust
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4th gen PC

stoic island
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Or somehow 3800x is same price as 3700x

fast dust
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Wow

hot falcon
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But if it’s a real budget build who cares

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Pie

stoic island
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I mean

hot falcon
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Pcie

stoic island
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AMD doesn't mean budget

hot falcon
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450 is a budget board

fast dust
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Not really

hot falcon
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I didn’t say mad means budget

stoic island
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I'd rather have 3600+2080ti than 10600k+2080s

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:p

hot falcon
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I wouldn’t get a 2080ti

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If 3000 are almost here

woven crypt
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My dad's building a PC for his work, and picked up a 3800x over the 3700x. He isn't planning on doing any overclocking, so that extra base GHz is helpful for him

stoic island
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As an example

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@woven crypt eh it'll boost itself and the silicon is all lottery in terms of boost clocks

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I don't have my 3800x going above the rated boost clocks of 3700x

atomic oasis
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lots of places show out of stock on some items.. I trust newegg...

woven crypt
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So in terms of both operating with no outside intervention, is there any noticeable difference between them?

hot falcon
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Well it depends on the person, if they’re gonna upgrade soon I’d go amd so they don’t have to buy mobos every two years but there’s too many variables

stoic island
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That's we usually need to narrow things down

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But right now

fast dust
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Intels the one that just switched to a different socket 😂

stoic island
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AMD makes most sense

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For 95% of the builds

hot falcon
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Mhmm that’s why I said I’d recommend them

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But if you only want to game, I’d wait

atomic oasis
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with changing to a 3800x, and a x570 MB... only about 50 bucks difference from the i7 9700k and that MB I liked

stoic island
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Only gaming and high asf budget is where I might put Intel

woven crypt
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So in terms of both operating with no outside intervention, is there any noticeable difference between them?

hot falcon
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3060 is about to bring better graphics to a lot of people

fast dust
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Intel slightly better for gaming, worse for everything else (usually). And they have much higher prices compared to AMD counterparts

hot falcon
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Mhm

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It’s all about that 14nm

atomic oasis
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anyone have more information about the 3000 series cards?

stoic island
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3700x+b450 has no issues for much cheaper

hot falcon
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They say they’re coming in August -September don’t know how true that is tho

fast dust
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Mr1 how do you feel about the B450 steel legend or B450 PRO4? (Not the micro ATX models)

stoic island
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X570 is just all out of stock

little leaf
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@stoic island a 3600 + 2080ti doesn't equal the price of a 10600k+2080s

hot falcon
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B550 is almost here tho

stoic island
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Steel legend is better than pro4, but both decent boards

hot falcon
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Maybe they’ll be cheaper at launch

stoic island
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@little leaf factoring Mobo costs, b450 vs z490

fast dust
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Are the micro ATX ones very different (other than size obviously)

little leaf
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ye but the 10th gen isn't fully out meaning the budget boards haven't come yet eaither

atomic oasis
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how about a threadripper?? lol 3500 bucks for one?? O.O

fast dust
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I have mixed threadripper feelings

hot falcon
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If you do hardcore editing

atomic oasis
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oh yeah.. so don't need that kind of fire power sheesh

little leaf
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if editing is your job

hot falcon
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3950x might save u a bit

fast dust
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Here’s why I have mixed threadripper feelings: (unless you’re a video editor)

hot falcon
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3900x still outperforms even the 10900k in multi core

stoic island
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So right now it makes no sense @little leaf

atomic oasis
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i'm still rocking the 2600k 😄

stoic island
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Also, with how budget Intel boards lock ram freq to 2666, there's a lot of performance loss

atomic oasis
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but it's old... still decently fast with SSD's...

stoic island
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Anyways don't go Intel right now

fast dust
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^

stoic island
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Later who the heck knows

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Just not now

atomic oasis
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@stoic island you saying even the 3200 speed RAM will only go up to 2666?

stoic island
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On Intel budget boards they have a max ram freq

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That limits your ram freq

hot falcon
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Well it depends on the market, that’s why intel coasted, they had no competition and upgrading for like 5% increase was just dumb. Now amd is dominating and there’s hint that these new zen 3 might hit 5ghz and will be better at overclocking so they might even lose the high end gaming crown for the first time in idk when

stoic island
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Like h370 b360 all of those

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We can't predict the future

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What we can do is look at the market right now, and make suggestions NOW

hot falcon
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Would be amazing if we could or maybe incredibly scary

atomic oasis
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thanks for the information all... getting late here.. I'm sure i'll come back again with more questions/information 😄

stoic island
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Ok don't buy Intel now bai

atomic oasis
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lol

stoic island
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It's too late ima slep

fast dust
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I should sleep too...

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But I don’t want to

hot falcon
wary tundra
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@burnt kettle how is it like playing on a corner, I want to try it

echo tapir
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So I have a i5 9600k should I upgrade

signal drift
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microcenter ive seen has cheaper 10th gen motherboards

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just any 10900k is out of stock everywhere haha

little osprey
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@little leaf order went thru, just need to wait for Mobo to be back in stock

little leaf
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Nice

little osprey
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Oh and fixed up the area for where the desktops going

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MUCH better cable management and less trash

little leaf
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good my desk is a mess

little osprey
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Lol, I mean it kinda still is, but less so

little leaf
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I have my xbox on a filing cabnit and my pc right next to it lol

little osprey
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😂

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I also connected my Evo to my phone

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Was weird, funny, but interesting

little leaf
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nice lol my desk is so uncorfortable for gaming

little osprey
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Transferred all of my photos, I don't have a desk.....anymore

little leaf
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No desk wot?

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Also what build did you end up going with?

little osprey
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The same one

little leaf
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the 3600 and 570?

little osprey
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I couldn't cancel the GPU as it was part of a bulk order, I'd have to cancel the whole order

little leaf
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oof

little osprey
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yeah

little leaf
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oh well a 570 will work fine

little osprey
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I can't wait, went to play a new game today on steam.... Wouldn't even launch

little leaf
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will run most tripple A titiles at 1080p 60 fps at least

little osprey
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The Mobo will be in stock on the 29th so, June 12/14th at the latest I should have it

little leaf
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aight

little osprey
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But yeah, I ain't got a desk anymore

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It's disassembled in my parents garage

little leaf
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Oof

little osprey
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It was also my old bed frame and my new bed won't fit so.....

little leaf
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Lmao what

little osprey
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Yep, it was like a bunk bed, but the lower bunk was a desk

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I did change my mobo btw @little leaf

little leaf
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Uhhh did you sepnt 270 bucks on that

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please tell me you didn’t

little osprey
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No, got it from a friend who did, bit never used it

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Like box is unopened kind of never used

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I ordered a b450, but then he said, "hey I got this you can take, never will use it".
He bought it when he was building his PC w/o knowing it was AMD, he got an Intel cpu

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Why?

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Is it not compatible with a 3600?

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@little leaf ?

little leaf
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@little osprey did you get it for free?

little osprey
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Yes

little leaf
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ok then

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just wanted to make sure you didn't pay for it

little osprey
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Is it compatible? Or just bad quality

little leaf
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no just x370 won't support 4th gen

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and also its just an older board

little osprey
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Ahhh

little leaf
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I also might need a bio update

little osprey
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Well I won't be planning to go 4th gen soon anyways

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...bio update....never did that before

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That'll be fun

little leaf
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ye that might be hard

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if you don't have a compatible cpu with the board atm

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because I don't think you can update the bios without being able to boot the pc

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but I may be wrong cause I've never done it

little osprey
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Well I'm getting CPU before the Mobo so.

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I'm picking it up after everything else arrives

analog hearth
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@celest horizon that's the funniest build I've seen in a while lolll

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something just feels off about it lmfaoo

buoyant flame
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Finally, someone is talking about build pics outside of that channel lol

analog hearth
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I know how to use this server lol

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I wish Discord had a comment system and allow for photos only

buoyant flame
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That would be cool

analog hearth
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I wish I could submit a feature I'd like to see lol

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I bet it would get them away from changing the UI so much (especially on mobile)

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like, give them an actual project people would like and could use haha

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not that I control what they put into this app

buoyant flame
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Lol

stoic island
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@little osprey that's one of the boards with bios flashback without using a CPU

viral cave
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🤪

signal drift
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so i wonder if 3000 series nvidia comes out prob september how long for hydrocopper 3080ti haha

little osprey
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@stoic island what do you mean?

stoic island
little osprey
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Ahh

little osprey
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So I’m thinking about building a pc but don’t know to much about parts

little osprey
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@austere condor saw you on setup montage

stoic island
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@little osprey so what are you trying to do with it

little osprey
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Gaming pc but have about a 1500 limit

stoic island
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I'll make you a list in a bit

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Also, when are you building it?

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Because the longer you can wait, the better

little osprey
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Around Christmas or feb of next year

stoic island
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Oh then you should wait to make a list

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If you just want to know how to build, LTT made some build guides

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Gamers nexus is a great source of information and news

little osprey
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Yeah just understanding how to build and really what are good compents

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Components

eager flower
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My thermal paste came, could whoever helped me a few days ago maybe give me a few pointers?

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I think I got it all down just want to make sure

little osprey
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Any reason on why waiting is better @stoic island

stoic island
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Corona jacking prices up

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new parts releasing q4 this year

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Corona making things go out of stock

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Christmas is a good time

eager flower
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My dad hit the motherboard of my laptop with pliers, how will I know if it effected anything

stoic island
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reinstall it

signal drift
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the samsung 49 inch crg9 is back in stock at few places think im gonna sell my cgh90 and get that one

buoyant flame
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@stoic island do you remember that pcpp list you helped me make for my friend like 2 weeks ago?

stoic island
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uhh no?

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what was it

buoyant flame
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Oh well that's not actually important lol. He literally just texted me and told me he bought a ibuypower pre-built

neon condor
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What's going on in this chat

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Who needs help

buoyant flame
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Nobody atm

stoic island
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bruh

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why

buoyant flame
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I tried so hard

stoic island
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tell them they'll regret it

buoyant flame
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He just wouldn't listen

stoic island
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Flex on them with your pc

buoyant flame
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Buy spec wise, theirs is better lmao

stoic island
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how much did they spend lmfao

buoyant flame
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1,600

stoic island
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and u?

buoyant flame
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Uh idk its been a long journey. Probably about that much but I started with i5 6400

stoic island
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lol

buoyant flame
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Now I have a 3600 and everything else is new besides my gpu

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Thats next 😉

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I'm gonna hold out for 3000 series and be like 💥 3070

stoic island
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make sure to flex on them

buoyant flame
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Will do

stoic island
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with upgrades

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and looks

buoyant flame
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Mine looks better rn lmao

stoic island
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lol flex it hard

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dew it

buoyant flame
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💪

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I got a nvme and a psu coming rn

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Rmx white

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Lol

pastel briar
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Uuug I hate windows now

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Every 5 minutes or so it’s giving a BSOD and can’t figure out how to repair its self

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And each BSOD is a different message each time…uuuuug!

buoyant flame
pastel briar
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Yea windows is being fing stupid now, won’t even let me get into repair mode with out a BSOD

turbid river
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Does some one recommend a cool case

buoyant flame
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Td500 mesh @turbid river

turbid river
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Thanks just getting recommendations

buoyant flame
signal drift
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I heard new update has had issues for people

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Unless you have a bad overclock, if stock do a recovery to previous

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I have no issues with my windows 10 pro 64bit

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What version you running?

little osprey
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I had an issue with a preview build not long ago

signal drift
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I wont touch preview lol

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Worth upgrade monitor from samsung cgh90 3840x1080 144hz 1ms to crg9 5120x1440 120hz 4ms

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Any suggestions

stoic island
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The 4ms is ehh

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Pixel density worth upgrading yes

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But 4ms tho

signal drift
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But driving on a 1080ti

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I'm gonna upgrade to 3080ti hydrocopper whenever those come out, I got mine for 899 the newer model was out of stock but back now 1299

stoic island
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Alright

signal drift
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Both 49 inch just would have to sell current if I did hah

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I put on offer up for 750 they selling for 999 now and guy was like 500 bucks I said not selling half price no thanks

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Its like a month old but past return time

little osprey
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I have a reason for running them, otherwise I wouldn't

signal drift
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Maybe not worth it loss of money and even max settings lots of games cant hit 144hz unless it's like doom lol

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4.15 mil pixels at 32x9 aspect ratio it's more than 2k

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The other would be like 7.5mil pixels

stoic island
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If you can't hit the 120hz on the other monitor then don't get it

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Might as well wait

signal drift
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Odessy c9

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G9

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I'm sorry lol

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Bigger curve 240hz 1ms

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5120x1440 as well

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I wonder how much longer of a wait after sept for a hydro copper variant to release 3080ti

cursive wharf
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hydro copper is questionable

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hopefully they'll fix current hydro copper issues with the new one

signal drift
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I'd only want that if there ends up with issues then have to swap card to stock

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Then rma blah blah

cursive wharf
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ah wait nvm, was thinking of hydro X. Anyways Hydro X has a leaking issue, so not exactly small issue

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Hydro Copper is $200 overpriced as well

signal drift
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True but its convenient as well

cursive wharf
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buy a air cooled GPU + block for cheaper

signal drift
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Its not hard to put block on but pain to take off n do over again

cursive wharf
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it isnt that much more work

signal drift
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Well thermal pads tho

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Gotta make sure not to fk up old ones

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Then again maybe I'd switch back to loop just for cpu, that extra 10c increase overall temp could keep cpu cooler. And have a hybrid gpu like how the kingpin is

cursive wharf
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kinda hard to do that to the point of being unusable. You can tear a pad in half and still use it just by putting them next to each other and have them stock close to each other

signal drift
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Will just see.. but from 1080ti would be great upgrade 2080ti def not worth

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Gaaa sucks waiting I just wanna get n pop right in

cursive wharf
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2080Ti wouldnt be so bad if it wasnt so damn expensive

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few months ago I was wondering if I should go 1080Ti SLI as I also have a 1080Ti

signal drift
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I have quick disconnect for gpu so just take tubes off n put on n bam

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Yea sli unless forced for most part isnt supported

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And major decline of support

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I had 2 980ti with corsair adaptor 120mm h55s

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While back

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It's pretty much divison 2, n star citizen

cursive wharf
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eh, get them for that nice look

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cuz why not

signal drift
#

Lol

#

Well gpu encoding diesnt really take much performance either

cursive wharf
#

would need a new case tho. My reservoir is currently under my GPU with just about no other space to put it

signal drift
#

N sorry for spelling I'm in my phone lol

#

Lian li 011

cursive wharf
#

pfft. Spelling? What's that

signal drift
#

That case has alot of room

cursive wharf
#

yeah, but too pricy for what it is

signal drift
#

Well look at the air variant

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Front fans too

#

I had but liked the look of corsair air 740 so returned

cursive wharf
#

Also am in CAD, so prices have a 1.4x multiplier

signal drift
#

If the corsair xd5 was better q/a that actually fit nicely in front of case

#

But I had 3 all noisy or grindy drained 3 times

cursive wharf
#

quite pricy for what it is tho

#

Bykski for the win

signal drift
#

Cheaper than the ek ones

cursive wharf
#

pfft, EK be the king of overrated and overpriced

signal drift
#

Lol yes but 1st fill no issues quiet

cursive wharf
#

good quality ye, but still way too damn pricy

signal drift
#

Waa a Shane the corsair looked nice

#

Yea was likev179

#

Vs 149

cursive wharf
#

and quality is good

signal drift
#

And corsair came with power jumper and 120 140 mounting platrs

cursive wharf
#

Until someone beats Bykski in pricing (maybe Barrow at some point), then Bykski is the no. one option I'd choose

signal drift
#

I have 2x st30 alphacool eads 240 and 360

stoic island
#

Ek/corsair if you want to drop 500$

#

But price wise bykski gud

cursive wharf
#

I think EK is like $700 for a full RGB loop isnt it?

signal drift
#

I'm thinking of switching the 360 to 60mm xflow so less tube and thicker

stoic island
#

Don't remember

signal drift
#

Meh no kit needed

stoic island
#

It's near 600$

cursive wharf
#

no kit is "needed", but does decrease price a lot of the time

signal drift
#

Yea

stoic island
#

Corsair costs 800 if you count fan and fan controller price was what I remember

signal drift
#

Corsair fans r expensive n loud, either cougar vortex or noctua nf12s

cursive wharf
#

honestly, just Arctic tho

stoic island
#

Arctic fans are great

modern shadow
#

cheap-o

stoic island
#

Actually hei does the bykski kit come with fans?

cursive wharf
#

yeah

stoic island
#

Aight

#

Good fans?

#

Since you got them

modern shadow
#

|/

#

oops

cursive wharf
#

decent ones at least. idk noise to RPM graph

stoic island
#

I mean just noise and airflow

signal drift
#

even the nf12s seam loud

#

add 10db for radiator

cursive wharf
#

the controller is kinda meh cuz no PWM controller and only 3 fan speeds

#

but I can run on lowest speed with about 360mm rad space (240mm+120mm) and good temps

#

also low noise

#

PSU fan and HDDs are louder

signal drift
#

my psui fan only really goes on when pc starts n then its off lol

potent prairie
#

I personally like the corsair hydrox linup

cursive wharf
#

I dont

#

faulty GPU block

potent prairie
#

Mine works great

signal drift
#

if they had better quality control it would be better

potent prairie
#

But I've heard of issues

#

Support is always good tho

cursive wharf
#

next revision I hope is good

signal drift
#

@potent prairie your pump isnt chirpy or loud?

potent prairie
#

Naw, not unless I crank up the speed manually

signal drift
#

i have microcenter 15 mins from me all 3 were loud

cursive wharf
#

best to give it a rating, louder then HDDs, case fans at given RPM, etc

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because "loud" is subjective

potent prairie
#

The fans can get pretty loud, I wouldn't do corsair fans again

#

I don't notice them over my fans on my quiet curve

signal drift
#

grinding and last one was loud loud.. like really loud

#

i wouldnt lower the rpm on the pump at all

potent prairie
#

I don't

#

I lower my fans

cursive wharf
#

I mean my fans can get loud too. But that is running at higher RPMs that I dont need

signal drift
#

atleast they took them back

potent prairie
#

Well I need em high until I get some new thermal paste

#

The TIM that comes on the gpu block is crap.

stoic island
#

Hei, thoughts on the XPG core reactor? I remember a good review on it and it's tier A.

cursive wharf
#

never looked into the reviews of it

stoic island
#

I'll go check again then

signal drift
#

i had to put my ek in back of the case because the bracket they sell would be too low and in way of gpu

slender cliff
#

Discord is preventing me from posting my PCP link...

modern shadow
#

Send me it

#

You need to be level 3

#

DM me

cursive wharf
#

ye, but Im also in CAD which probably is like "doesnt ship to your location" anyways

modern shadow
#

@slender cliff 's list

stoic island
#

ouch

#

you went for the samsung ssd...

signal drift
#

im amazed the 10900k is sold out

stoic island
#

expensive and not great case :p

signal drift
#

mem should bump up to 3600 if you can afford as well

cursive wharf
#

I mean only 1.67% deviation on 12v rail. Well within the 5% deviation

#

worse then other options, but more then good enough

slender cliff
#

I've already ordered these parts, but memory, and pcie4 M.2 are on my upgrade path.

#

I thought going for LPX would allow me to fit a big air cooler.

stoic island
#

I mean

#

your case is pretty damn small so

#

or not

#

huh

#

weird

#

so it really is just a short h510 xD

#

Why did you go itx..?

slender cliff
#

H200 is pretty big for an ITX.

#

I intend on carrying this PC on flights. International student.

#

Could have gone smaller.

stoic island
#

ehh

#

I would've went for CM H100 :p

signal drift
#

i used to have the corsair 250d, that was a awesome small case and could fit a 240 aio in it too

stoic island
#

but thats for a smol build

#

and H100 has a handle

signal drift
#

lol well ya said small

stoic island
#

anyways

signal drift
#

oh even better small build they dont sell the case anymore

slender cliff
#

Only issue I see with my case is the lack of gpu airflow as I have got an ATX PSU.

stoic island
#

big cooler and traveling don't go together well at all

signal drift
#

corsair 380t

slender cliff
#

Yeah, I am sticking with Prism for now. We'll see how it goes.

stoic island
#

lemme find my itx list I made a while back

slender cliff
#

I don't plan on overclocking or anything just yet.

stoic island
#

I like the H100 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

good thing you caught that mobo while it was in stock, that went out of stock pretty quickly iirc

slender cliff
#

I haven't got it yet, it is on pre-order.

stoic island
#

ah

slender cliff
#

Only the mobo and PSU are yet to arrive, and PSU is expected June 1st.

#

I ordered through BLT. I read that they are reputable.

stoic island
#

BLT..?

slender cliff
#

Bottom Line Telecommunications

viral cave
#

Bacon Lettuce and Tomato! Lol

slender cliff
#

not a sandwich ahaha

stoic island
#

never heard of them...

#

I know the BLT sandwich tho :D

slender cliff
#

They aren't listed on PCPP price listings, but I come across them from google searches.

stoic island
#

anyways it's prob ok

#

I bought mostly from newegg

viral cave
slender cliff
#

Really quick to reply to messages. So far I have had positive experience with BLT.

signal drift
#

newegg got my money for ram because microcenter didnt have trident z

stoic island
#

lol

#

Newegg got my money because no microcenter for at least 3 hours in any direction

#

and also Newegg has good prices anyways

signal drift
#

i love how close microcenter is

viral cave
#

Has anyone ordered from Amway before?

modern shadow
#

micro center 40 min away from me

signal drift
#

microcenter actually has better prices in most things

modern shadow
#

@signal drift My micro center got trident Zs

#

and thats true

signal drift
#

not samsung bdie ones

modern shadow
#

oh

#

yeah

signal drift
#

they have the slower trident z lol

modern shadow
#

only 3200

#

i think

viral cave
#

😢

stoic island
#

you went b die?

modern shadow
#

I go to tustin

stoic island
#

3600cl16 b die or 3200cl14

slender cliff
#

How much of a difference would 3600 make, really?

signal drift
#

they have 3600 now and 1 4000 but thats different brand

slender cliff
#

over 3200

stoic island
#

eh 5% or something like that

#

look at benchmarks

signal drift
#

amd bigger difference in memory performance

stoic island
#

3600 is usually good place for ryzen 3rd gen chips

slender cliff
#

Yeah, I've got a 3700x

#

I hear that Ryzen 3 doesn't care that much from some sources, and that it does from others.

signal drift
#

what cl on it

slender cliff
#

I think 16

#

on mine

stoic island
#

3200cl16 is decent

#

wait Piranha you got b die?

signal drift
#

see mine was expensive for 3600 cl15 trident z

stoic island
#

cl15..?

#

huh

signal drift
#

i have it ocd to 4000mhz 16 16 16 36

#

yea its lemme get u link of new egg

#

i got 2 kits

#

and that overclocked amazingly

#

there is a rgb version thats 100 bucks more, and apparently a cl14 version too

stoic island
#

huh

#

interesting

signal drift
#

cas latency

stoic island
#

yea theres a cl14 one

#

didnt know about the cl15 one

#

I have a cl16 trident z neo djr 32gb kit

signal drift
#

either way its bdie

#

i had the neo and returned it

stoic island
#

?

#

what was wrong with em?

signal drift
#

thats like 16 19 19 39 or something

#

idk didnt seam to perform well in benchmarks n tests i did

stoic island
#

Yea I got the 16-19-19-39 kit, works fine for me

signal drift
#

my ripjaws 3200 were just as good

slender cliff
#

I haven't looked into this too much, but mine says 16-18-18-36

signal drift
#

but im using a 9900kf 5ghz

#

mhz is main priority then cas latency

slender cliff
#

Don't know if that's good or not. I plan on upgrading from 16GB to 32 GB anyways as that's what my laptop has now.

stoic island
#

iirc the memory tests I did on speeds and all are fine

#

3600cl16

#

so you might've just got a bad kit

#

yea djr isn't good at OCing

#

but it's much cheaper

signal drift
#

maybe idk, but i didnt need rgb anyways

#

but its great that it went up just by bumping timing by 1

stoic island
#

it's like 300$ for b die 32gb trident z neo lol
I got 32gb at about 150$

signal drift
#

yea only difference is lows are better little more efficent

#

kinda just chasing numbers i guess

stoic island
#

yea at some point it is just chasing numbers lol

signal drift
#

but the inland premium 2tb m.2 is awesome not as much write as samsung evo plus but 3400 read 2900 write

#

and its 10c less temp

stoic island
#

I like recommending the mp34 for cheap great nvme drive at 1tb

#

sabrent rocket usually for 2tb drives

signal drift
#

yea that rocket looked decent

slender cliff
#

I had a question about M.2 drives. I was going to go with an ASrock mobo which only had one M.2 drive bay on the rear of the mobo. Would a 970 overheat back there?

little osprey
#

B550 boards look pretty nice

stoic island
#

dunno

little osprey
#

At least the ones I’ve seen so far

stoic island
#

970 is an expensive drive anyways

#

it prob wont overheat but who knows

signal drift
#

970 runs around 40ish in operation so it should be fine

#

depends what you wanna spend

slender cliff
#

Ah dang it. I should have gone with that mobo when it was available then.

signal drift
#

do the sabrent rocket 2tb is like 230 or something

slender cliff
#

I had already bought the 970 as it had the most ratings. I will be doing a lot of video editing and moving around files and stuff.

signal drift
#

true but price for price

slender cliff
#

I got the 1 TB for 180, which I know is like $50 higher than other 1 TB M.2 drives.

signal drift
#

samsung is expensive i use for os just 500gb m.2 evo plus

#

n like said 2tb inland m.2

stoic island
#

samsung is just expensive for no real reason imo

#

other drives match it in endurance and speed

slender cliff
#

I have a second M.2 bay on the rear of my mobo. Will the Inland one be fine without a heatsink?

signal drift
#

yea it will be ok

slender cliff
#

What sort of activities would bring up the temps of the drive? surely not gaming?

signal drift
#

no gaming the os does more

#

thats why 970 evo plus runs hotter i bet cause os running and processes

#

i mean i got the board heatsinks with my z390 asus maximus

stoic island
#

video editing and such would heat it up more

signal drift
#

and 970 is around 40s and inland is 30

stoic island
#

it only really heats up when you're trying to read and write a lot

slender cliff
#

Yeah, I'll be using the 1 TB as my primary drive. I thought that it has a cache which increases lifespan and price.

signal drift
#

the sticker on it is a heat transfer lol

stoic island
#

yea

slender cliff
#

There's no disadvantage to using one drive for OS and applications, right?

signal drift
#

but im serious they say to not remove the info sticker, obviously besides warranty

slender cliff
#

Like I wouldn't need to partition and stuff?

signal drift
#

no i just did separate because more filled the slower iops get

#

but its plenty fast either way

#

partition only if you plan on reinstalling every once in a while

stoic island
#

yea I kinda removed my sticker on my drive didn't realize it voided warranty
oops

slender cliff
#

Reinstalling as in Windows, or applications?

signal drift
#

windows

#

alot of time its best to just reinstall after a while keep it fresh

#

but if you dont plan then dont bother partition

#

or virus

slender cliff
#

makes sense. This is a long-term build, so I might partition it to make servicing easier.

#

Thanks for the info

signal drift
#

i prob have no need for my 500gb 850 evo, and 120 evo ssds lol they r just sitting empty right now since 2tb m.2

#

120 was os while back when i had 4790k

#

well have fun all going to play star citizen

turbid river
#

I’m looking to get a 1200watt Rog cpu what do you think

stoic island
#

um

#

why

cursive wharf
#

bad 1200w

#

decent 650w quality or so

stoic island
#

yea

turbid river
#

Is more watts better or worse

stoic island
#

Strix 650w seems decent

cursive wharf
#

watts means little in PSU quality

#

voltage regulation/ripple, transient response, protections, cap quality, noise, fan quality, etc

stoic island
#

What are you trying to make, and what's the budget?

turbid river
#

Ok lll have to look at my cpu and my budget is not much right now

#

So y’all recommend 650W

cursive wharf
#

550w/650w is the most 99% of people need

turbid river
#

Ok

#

And that would save me at least $100 or more thanks

modern shadow
#

Whats a good Mini itx mobo?

#

Budget

stoic island
#

B450?

celest horizon
#

z390 Gene

modern shadow
#

yea

stoic island
#

B450i Aorus pro wifi, whenever it goes back into stock.

modern shadow
#

just for fun

stoic island
#

looks good to me

modern shadow
#

thx

#

trying to make lists for every budget

#

Just for fun

stoic island
#

lol

#

prices change too often

modern shadow
#

ikr

stoic island
modern shadow
#

Make it so people can modify it to fit price and needs

#

For if you got 50000+

stoic island
cursive wharf
#

no dual 7F42 or quadro 8000

#

therefore bad

stoic island
#

well hei isnt 7f42 only 32 cores or smth

#

I remember the 2sp one being the only one at 64 cores

little osprey
#

So umm, I think I corrupted one of my hard drives, is this a good place or should I go to #storage-devices ?

stoic island
#

go ahead anywhere

cursive wharf
#

apparently the F series seems meh. 7F72 is 24c

#

7H12 is 64c

#

these names AMD... why?

fast dust
#

Gonna do some major cleaning and flip everything I can

next kestrel
#

where??? holy heck i wanna do that

fast dust
#

From relatives

#

Got the HP desktop from one relative and everything else from another relative.

#

I got all that other stuff because this relative works in an office and just had it lying around

next kestrel
#

i hate my school

fast dust
#

I was in their state this weekend so they gave it to me (:

next kestrel
#

they threw away like 40 monitors

fast dust
#

Why Meep

next kestrel
#

i helped

fast dust
#

Oh noo

next kestrel
#

i asked if i could take 1

#

"no its dangerous"

#

??

fast dust
#

Bruhuhuh

#

I want to do that at my school but idk how or when I’d do that

next kestrel
#

yeah my school upgraded monitors to ips panels

fast dust
#

Nice

#

My school has some decent Lenovo monitors

#

And the PCs have i3-6100s

next kestrel
#

damn

#

my school has like 20 computers with 750tis

#

and 30 with 1660tis

fast dust
#

Wowow

#

For video editing and rendering and stuff?

next kestrel
#

msi sponsored our school or something

#

yeah

#

film

fast dust
#

Nicee

stoic island
#

what

#

msi

#

huh

fast dust
#

Sponsor my school please MSI

next kestrel
#

idk something like this

stoic island
#

I think my school has like 10 computers with 1080 for cad

next kestrel
#
stoic island
#

1070 maybe

fast dust
#

Dang

next kestrel
#

damn

stoic island
#

wow ok

pastel briar
#

uuug I am hating windows right now

stoic island
#

:p

fast dust
#

No

#

Don’t hate windows

next kestrel
#

they also gave us "gaming" keyboards

fast dust
#

Don’t become a Linux fanboy

stoic island
#

I can't hate windows because I don't have other options :p

next kestrel
#

ubuntu is fun and games until you want to play games

hasty sleet
#

hey i need some advice on a vertical gpu mount anyone got a suggestion 0r know of one that is good for the pc oll dynamic

pastel briar
#

Im not a fanboy of Linux, but I honestly never had any issues that I could not resolve with a quick run with the terminal, where with windows its been consistently one issue after another on the current PC I am on....and its a clean fresh install so.......

mortal rampart
#

should just be 1080 i would think

fast dust
#

Probably 1080 or 720p

mortal rampart
#

prolly just 1080 or 720 then lmao

#

yeah

#

we on the same wave

fast dust
#

And probably only 60Hz

#

All you need then is something that can do 1080p 60 fps

#

Any higher FPS and you won’t be able to see it because if your monitor

mortal rampart
#

lmao

#

yeah then just a 16050S

#

**1650S

#

since ur on a budget

fast dust
#

I don’t think 1650s can run 4K ultra settings...

deep skiff
#

i'd avoid getting a 4k monitor, even if you could run 60fps good settings you could get a 240hz for the same price

fast dust
#

2060 ko or 5600 XT for $300 budget

mortal rampart
#

this includes the psu tho

#

literally anything that runs 1080p

#

at 60hz or higher

fast dust
#

CX550 with gtx 1660 boom

mortal rampart
#

like ur just playing fortnire my guy

#

my mans is spittin fr

fast dust
#

Mic drop 😎

#

That’s sad

mortal rampart
#

lmao

fast dust
#

Games are supposed to be fun and there’s a slim chance of winning... I don’t see why you’d do it my man

mortal rampart
#

so he can buy an actual rig 💯

fast dust
#

i dont like the game i just want money

mortal rampart
#

u ever won b4?

fast dust
#

Huh

little osprey
#

More than i ever got out of a game ... other than massive enjoyment.

fast dust
#

Better than a kick in the pants I guess

mortal rampart
#

fr

wispy matrix
deep skiff
#

@wispy matrix is this for gaming?

wispy matrix
#

yep

#

and streaming

stoic island
#

Prices are off btw

#

best buy stock don't work with pcpp very well

#

for example the tomahawk max is out of stock

wispy matrix
#

i tried fitting my budget in

stoic island
#

H510 is out of stock in best buy

wispy matrix
#

well im saving up money

#

not on amazon

stoic island
#

MWE gold is out of stock in best buy

wispy matrix
#

best buy got robbed?

stoic island
wispy matrix
#

can you edit it

#

to make it fit my budet

#

budget

stoic island
deep skiff
#

🤔 would a 2070 benefit streaming more because of better nvenc or the more cores

stoic island
#

hmm

#

tryna

deep skiff
#

somebody should test that ngl

stoic island
#

no good mobos in stock

wispy matrix
#

well mr111 im not at my money i need tho but i can wait untill it gets back in stock also

stoic island
#

v2

#

Make a new list when you have the money

#

everything changes in price and stock daily now

wispy matrix
#

true

#

yeah rn im 1.1k short but ill make that next month

#

easily

cursive wharf
#

@stoic island probs go for 2060S rather then 2070 non S

#

heatsink on that Ventus is small

stoic island
#

Eh

#

Was too lazy to check 2060s stock lemme ser

#

@cursive wharf perf wise I thought 2070 was still slightly ahead..?

cursive wharf
#

not enough to matter. Should just focus on noise levels

#

as in better cooler

stoic island
#

I was thinking Nvidia heat doesn't really matter as much

#

80c instead of 70c doesn't matter as much

cursive wharf
#

better boosts

#

with that temp difference

stoic island
#

Not like 5700xt and you get 120c junction on a bad cooler :p

cursive wharf
#

I mean, probs is the same for Nvidia tbh

stoic island
#

Anyways even accounting for boost I thought 2070 was better?

cursive wharf
#

but Nvidia doesnt have any sensor for junction

#

2070 is better if on a decent cooler. Ventus doesnt have a good cooler

#

So it's close to the same tbh

#

I'd just get a quieter GPU anyways rather then worry over 5 fps starting from ~100 fps

stoic island
#

Eh I'm the kinda person to want 140 instead of 135 :p

cursive wharf
#

I find that noise is more noticeable over the small FPS difference and I usually prioritize that

stoic island
#

Fair enough

#

I don't mind noise up until a certain point

cursive wharf
#

Noise isnt that bad. But as an enthusiast I must say "yes" to as quiet as possible, unless it's delta fans. Then as loud as possible

stoic island
#

Delta fans?

cursive wharf
#

The super high RPM server fans

stoic island
#

Ah

cursive wharf
stoic island
#

Yea

#

Your finger gonna get chopped off

#

Blowymatrons

cursive wharf
#

ye

turbid river
#

Ima get a new mic got a stand picked out on Newegg but should I get the hyperX mic

little osprey
#

What is better Ryzen 9 or the I9 intel core

tepid basalt
#

depends on what you want to do

#

as usual, intel is better for gaming while ryzen is for everything else

little osprey
#

Intel is best at grilling

stark quail
#

Hey is 560$ a reasonable price for the 2070?

tepid basalt
#

yes, for a mid to high end model

cursive wharf
#

no

#

as that isnt a 2070 Super

#

even then, 2070 Supers should be around $500 - $520

tepid basalt
#

wait

#

2070s is that cheap?

#

oh my bad

#

i've been thinking with prices in my region, not us

next tangle
copper mason
#

guise first timer build question please 🙇‍♂️

Global site for my ASRock X399 Taichi shows that latest BIOS 3.90 requires Bridge BIOS 2.30
so that means even if it's my first time assembling the PC, if the current BIOS version is lower than 2.30,
I can't skip and would still need to do a bridge BIOS update first before going latest BIOS, correct ?

Also ASRock says they don't take responsibility for BIOS updates, how high's the risk of bricking the board ?
If that does happen, how likely can you unbrick it ?

sudden turret
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you cant unbrick it

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it's fairly painless as long as you have the correct bios file for the motherboard you're trying to update.

copper mason
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you cant unbrick it
@sudden turret oh noes 😱

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it's fairly painless as long as you have the correct bios file for the motherboard you're trying to update.
looks like I'll have to either just stay with stock BIOS,
and only update to known stable version (if I can find it) if there's issue with stock

sudden turret
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yeah if there are no issues, really no need to update

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but if you do, can always come back here and we can verify you have the proper file.

copper mason
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but if you do, can always come back here and we can verify you have the proper file.
@sudden turret thanks a lot 🙇‍♂️

modest kraken
little osprey
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please do not get a hyper x microphone @turbid river

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even if i havent heard it, which i have and its very bad, they arent even an audio company lol

slate ice
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@copper mason most current gen bios flash utilities are pretty straight forward and stable. Put the new BIOS file on usb drive, boot into BIOS, go to the flash utility and click the go button. 99% of the time you're only going to brick the board if for some reason you cut power during the flash.

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The only mobo manufacturer I've dealt with where BIOS flashing was nerve racking and not very intuitive was NZXT on the N7 mobos

copper mason
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@copper mason most current gen bios flash utilities are pretty straight forward and stable. Put the new BIOS file on usb drive, boot into BIOS, go to the flash utility and click the go button. 99% of the time you're only going to brick the board if for some reason you cut power during the flash.
@slate ice great additional insights thanks 🙏
I heard bad things about ASRock's BIOS, but also that it gets more frequently updated

slate ice
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I build/flash ASrock boards pretty regularly (flashing backward is the only way to overclock the Athlon 200GE) it's very simple.

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Just make sure you USB drive is blank except for the BIOS file. Asrock BIOS downloads are usually a .zip file, so extract it first, and copy the .rom file onto the USB stick. Then just do what I said above.

latent storm
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i’m mounting two fans here at the back, should i mount them such that the cables go through that top left grommet or should i have the cables run down the left side of the case?

fast dust
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Top left grommet will probably look a lot better but left side might have better functionality... if you’re plugging the fans into the motherboard and not a fan hub or molex connectors

cursive wharf
stoic island
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It's hard tho

modern shadow
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Complicated

wooden quarry
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If I'm building a threadripper 3960x 128 ddr4 tiny graphics card. What kind of PSU am I looking at?

fast dust
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Wdym by tiny graphics card?

wooden quarry
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I'll upgrade later, but my budget runs out there

fast dust
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What do you plan on upgrading to?

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You’re not giving enough info

wooden quarry
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I'm thinking gtx 1050 ti for now... And in the future...

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Maybe $600 range later? Idk

fast dust
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As in like RTX 2070 in the future?

little osprey
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sounds like theyd end up with a 3060

fast dust
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Oh yeah or a 3060

wooden quarry
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Yeah

little osprey
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or rdna2

fast dust
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How much power would a 3060 suck?

little osprey
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i wouldnt worry about it, 7nm

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rdna2 might use alot

fast dust
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So maybe like a 550 or 650w

wooden quarry
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I could really go that low?

fast dust
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You could

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If you wanted you could go 750w

wooden quarry
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I didn't realize

fast dust
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Make sure it’s a decent model too, like Corsair RMx or something

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If you cheap out on your power supply and get something bad it could cost you

little osprey
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if it was an intel 24 core the cpu alone would probably do 500w lol, on ryzen you good though, id get a 650 at least tho

wooden quarry
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Yeah, I've read that.

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K, great! Thanks guys

fast dust
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Yeah no problem

wooden quarry
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I've got a cooler master 850 in my upstairs build

fast dust
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What model

wooden quarry
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It's been an Awesome psu

fast dust
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Gimme the exact model

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Cause it might not be very good

wooden quarry
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Oh really?

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Lemme go get the model

little osprey
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cooler master probly be not terrible atleast, itd probly be fine

fast dust
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Cooler master has a reputation of being “meh”

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Don’t know if id fully trust one with wattage that high

little osprey
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yeah, so it will work, and not blow up, sounds like what they looking for lol

fast dust
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Well if it’s been used for a while previously...

little osprey
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yeah true i guess

wooden quarry
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Yeah, it's 'silent pro' gotta be 9 yrs old now

fast dust
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Yikes 9 years old?

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I would not trust that thing anymore

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Especially if the warranty is gone

little osprey
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it will start turning off rather than damage anything though right?could upgrade it then

wooden quarry
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Bronze plus lol

fast dust
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It definitely could damage stuff though

wooden quarry
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Any thing else is hurried in the case

fast dust
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Wdym

little osprey
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is it recomend to change psus once they hit warranty or something? whats the recomended like, lifespan for a decent unit?

fast dust
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Look at the warranty

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If it’s 3 years, chances are it’ll live for 3 years

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If it’s 12 years, chances are it’ll live 12 years

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And so on

little osprey
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yeah mk cool

wooden quarry
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So fractal designs PSU are available... How is EVGA?

fast dust
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Don’t look at power supplies based on brand

stoic island
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Everything depends on the model

fast dust
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^^^

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Evga has bad and good models

little osprey
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certain brands will assure you your pc wont be the one to explode though, there is that lol

stoic island
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For example, EVGA P2 is considered to be one of the best non-HEDT PSUs

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but then EVGA N1 is just dangerous

fast dust
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Yeah I was about to say something about the N1

wooden quarry
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Interesting, k. Didn't realize

little osprey
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oh dangerous? damn

stoic island
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I think it fails standards

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for efficiency and ripple and that

fast dust
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It bad

little osprey
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is there no company that at least makes no dangerous models? i thiught evga seasonic and corsair were good like that

stoic island
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I mean

fast dust
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SeaSonic is generally okay

stoic island
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N1 is like 10 years old or smth

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EVGA is generally good