#building-and-recc-chat

1 messages · Page 526 of 1

stoic island
#

@foggy hazel need ya opinion, tomahawk max alright if it's the only thing at the like <130$ range in stock?

stoic island
#

oh boy cv isn't a great choice it looks like

#

only a single pcie 6+2

#

good thing I checked

fast dust
#

@stoic island Is the Coolermaster MWE in stock?

sudden turret
#

go look?

#

😛

fast dust
#

The V2 450w version is a decent PSU

stoic island
#

no

fast dust
#

Er not really good my bad

#

jonnyguru told me it was pretty decent

modern shadow
cursive wharf
#

@fast dust Probably meaning decent in the lowest categories of PSUs. But overall dont think it's decent

stoic island
#

Oh boy

#

Forgot to link list

#

Ehm

#

I'll link the list I got when I finish eating

cursive wharf
#

Also, under $130 range for mobo

#

I'd say b450 Strix

stoic island
#

OOS btw

#

In Newegg at leadt

cursive wharf
#

oof, bestbuy really sucks with pcpp

stoic island
#

Ya

cursive wharf
#

says it's in stock in pcpp, but isnt in bb site

stoic island
#

Hei, aware of any decent PSU at the ~100 range?

#

X370 bios might be

#

Eh

#

Since they prob stopped production

modern shadow
cursive wharf
modern shadow
#

pls help

#

read my message

stoic island
#

lol guess thats fine then

cursive wharf
#

Team MP34 is slightly cheaper then A80 for about same perf and unless 3600MT/s CL16 RAM is OOS get that due to only being $10 more @modern shadow

stoic island
modern shadow
#

k

#

isnt getting a 30 ram them OCing it better? @cursive wharf

stoic island
#

OC is risky

cursive wharf
#

Not all RAM can OC well. As for that specific kit, doubt it

foggy hazel
#

@stoic island re: tomahawk max: I would honestly wait it out

cursive wharf
#

Yes there is a Crucial Ballistix kit that OCs well, but the one you had isnt it

stoic island
#

kk

modern shadow
#

also, is there a better fan for the price

stoic island
#

b450m pro time

modern shadow
#

next, should I go XMP or manual?

cursive wharf
#

I wonder if b550 would be out by then, stock has died completely now so idk if Pro will get back or not

stoic island
#

aw

#

b450m pro or b450-f then

foggy hazel
#

there is also non-m pro

modern shadow
#

is the aorus elite good?

#

the b450

stoic island
#

also oos

cursive wharf
#

Elite is meh. The good Gigabyte b450 is Aorus Pro

#

but OOS so meh

stoic island
#

had my hopes up for a sec

modern shadow
#

rip

#

the builders are the one suffering

stoic island
little osprey
#

so mp34 ssd is the new meta?

stoic island
#

Yes

#

A80 still great

#

but we found better one

little osprey
#

nice

cursive wharf
#

@stoic island oh ye also , A80 has better 1tb prices rn

stoic island
#

@cursive wharf still chillin with mp34 until I figure out tbw :p

#

seems pretty great tbw

cursive wharf
#

I guess

little osprey
#

the 1tbs also say the teamgroup is slower

sudden turret
#

love it.

silk estuary
#

Lmao

stoic island
#

@sudden turret I read it only AFTER I go google, and ask discord, and after Naed yells at me again

sudden turret
#

lol

stoic island
#

bouta be the most used emote

sudden turret
#

yup

#

if you can find a better one lemme know, I just made that on in paint

stoic island
#

idk lemme hop on google

misty heron
#

Could someone give tips on my build?

stoic island
#

just go ahead

misty heron
#

O i cant send links?

stoic island
#

Send it to me

misty heron
#

Woah howd u do that

stoic island
#

a lot of stuff out of stock

misty heron
#

Oh really?

#

I was planning to save up money so i wasnt really gonna buy right away

tepid basalt
#

so it makes sense to wait

stoic island
#

makes a ton of sense to wait rn

tepid basalt
#

wait until b550 comes out Dumb

stoic island
#

lots of things are out of stock overall too

tepid basalt
#

you waited the whole year already

misty heron
#

Why is everyone buying everything?

#

In what way is b550 better than 450?

little leaf
#

one has pcie 4

tepid basalt
#

it's not everyone buying everything

little leaf
#

and the other doesnt'

tepid basalt
#

it's just the stuff you choose is a bit old

little leaf
#

will also officaly support gen 4 ryzens

misty heron
#

Yeah i dont really know what to get for a 1k budget

#

Im a noob when it comes to building

little leaf
#

go ryzen

tepid basalt
#

no, like the pc part is fine

#

but the peripherals part

#

your mouse, kb, monitor

#

that stuff

little leaf
#

karozy what is the definition of best cpu and gpu?

tepid basalt
#

the most expensive consumer stuff

misty heron
#

Karozy those r what i currently own and am using xD

lyric thistle
#

literal best

tepid basalt
#

oh

#

I see

misty heron
#

I refuse to spend money on it bc it still works

tepid basalt
#

that makes sense

misty heron
#

And i just got the deathadder v2

#

Is it old already??? Whattt

tepid basalt
#

it was released last year right?

misty heron
#

Idk

tepid basalt
#

it's one year old

#

so it's "old"

misty heron
#

Late last year

#

Idk if i should replace my monitor

tepid basalt
#

I'm just kidding

#

well it it's working fine, i don't think so

#

unless you're aiming for 2k then yes

misty heron
#

Yeah its still nice

#

Nahhh i play competitively so i just put everything to low

tepid basalt
#

yep

#

leave the monitor be

misty heron
#

Idk what else i can reuse

#

I got my monitor mouse keyboard and mousepad

tepid basalt
#

I see some problem from your build

misty heron
#

Oh please give me ur wisdom

tepid basalt
#

is a very, very bad rx 5700xt

misty heron
#

Is it?

tepid basalt
#

yep

misty heron
#

Which ones would be more suitable for gaming?

tepid basalt
#

try sapphire pulse

misty heron
#

That one?

#

And i cant put picture haha

#

The 400 dollar one

#

How would they be different?

tepid basalt
#

it has better cooling

#

so more consistent performance

misty heron
#

Ahh i see

#

Do u know about what else i could reuse from my current build?

#

Oh wait you dont know what it is xD

#

Ima bot

tepid basalt
#

well with all the peripherals, I see no problem

#

idk about your pc tho

misty heron
#

And im reusing storage too i have 2ssds and 1 hdd

tepid basalt
#

sounds nice

#

cpu and mobo?

misty heron
#

Cpu is amd anthlon x4 880k

#

And mobo is f2a78m-hd2

#

Its really old i built this like 4 years ago

tepid basalt
#

okay it's time for a revolution

misty heron
#

Yeah but the rona is making pc parts sold out haha

#

So i gotta wait

#

Those r really old right?

stoic island
#

yes

misty heron
#

Hahaha

#

Oh i had a question

#

Would placing the fan a certain way be bad

#

Or reduce performance

#

Same with the slot the gpu goes in

tepid basalt
#

well maybe

#

but it has endless possibilites

lyric thistle
#

if you place the fans so they both blow out the front and the back, or where they suck in air from both the front and back

#

would be tug of war between the fans

misty heron
#

How would i know when it does what

lyric thistle
#

on most fans, there are arrows indicating airflow and spin direction

tepid basalt
#

incense

#

your best help

misty heron
#

Cause i saw a video from bitwit i think where he put his gpu in a slot far from his cpu as a troll and then he went on to make another video saying that if he puts it closer to the cpu it will be better

#

Incense???

tepid basalt
misty heron
#

He like put the fan blowing to the back but i thought that te fan should be directly on top of cpu and facing up and down

#

Oooh i have those sticks at home

#

But mine r red and brown

tepid basalt
#

yep

#

it gives you a consistent source of smoke

#

helps you see the air flow in your case

misty heron
#

So i can raise temperature i see

tepid basalt
#

see if it's disrupted or not

misty heron
#

I need to put those in my case

tepid basalt
#

no

misty heron
#

Oh i thought u were joking

tepid basalt
#

incense is just for testing the airflow lol

#

nah, this is serious

misty heron
#

Oh i thought hahah

#

How would i do this airflow test

tepid basalt
#

you light up an incense and put it infront of your case

#

turn your case on, run something to make the fan spin

#

then see how the smoke from the incense goes

misty heron
#

Where would i want it to go?

tepid basalt
#

if you're doing a neutral set up

#

air will go from the front to the back

#

and go up through the vent on the top

misty heron
#

So that is what i want right?

#

Sorry im asking alot of questions

tepid basalt
#

yeah

#

nah

#

it's fun to share

misty heron
#

So that is what iw ant from the airflow?

#

To go to the back then up?

tepid basalt
#

yeah

lyric thistle
#

lil picture of average airflow configuration

misty heron
#

Oooh ok

#

Are there other set ups for airflow that are more efficient or is the average on the best

#

I dont plan on ever usinng watercooling cause i dont trust myself

lyric thistle
#

and align the airflow arrows with those arrows in the pic

stoic island
#

lil noctua 80mm! :D

lyric thistle
#

UwU

#

widdle boy

misty heron
#

Ooohhhh

#

I never even noticed that?

#

What the heck

#

Mine is like on top of my cpu going straight up

#

Oh and another question

#

Would buying parts and leaving it to sit for a few months be bad for the parts? Or can i just buy one piece then wait like 3-4 months and buy other pieces

stoic island
#

Though it is safe for the parts, it's a bad idea

tepid basalt
#

don't drag for too long...
try to finish everything in a month

#

2 at most

#

a lesson from my dear friend

stoic island
#

Ideally everything is bought on the same day, and everything arrives on about the same day, so you'll still be in the window for returns when you first fire it up. In case anything is DoA (Dead on Arrival)

next tangle
misty heron
#

Woah how did u put a link in???

lyric thistle
#
misty heron
#

Whattt

#

I tried to put a link and it didnt workk

#

It was from pcpartpicker too!!

lyric thistle
#

try now

misty heron
lyric thistle
#

tada

misty heron
#

Woah whattt how did u do that

lyric thistle
#

you're blue

misty heron
#

Meaning??

lyric thistle
#

Mee6 level 3, is gained by talking in text

#

in this server

next tangle
#

So, is what I linked good?

edgy cape
#

Can’t get off this screen

misty heron
#

I wish i could help but im a noob kray sorry

edgy cape
#

If I save and exit keeps taking me back here

misty heron
#

But it says theres a compatibility issue

#

Do u know how to solve that after u build the computer?

stoic island
#

@next tangle nyet

#

wacky psu

#

bad ssd

lyric thistle
#

@next tangle I would personally go for a slightly better motherboard with better VRM cooling, and 3600MHz RAM

stoic island
#

bad ram

#

like plz

lyric thistle
#

you're welcome

stoic island
#

aye

misty heron
#

At least 3k speed?

#

Or uh 3000 whatever it means?

stoic island
#

3600mhz

#

for ram

misty heron
#

U can get that much for a cheap price?

lyric thistle
#

3000-3600MHz would be ideal

stoic island
#

Speeds and price don't scale linearily

misty heron
#

@next tangle what is ur brother planning to do on that computer

stoic island
#

like you find 3600mhz ram for 80$

#

3200mhz usually like 60$

misty heron
#

What the heck???

stoic island
#

NO SCREW TEAM

misty heron
#

Is the difference that big??

lyric thistle
#

lol

stoic island
#

NEVA

#

GO AEGIS

lyric thistle
#

I mean

#

yeah

stoic island
#

cheaper

lyric thistle
#

Aegis gang

misty heron
#

I like gskill

stoic island
#

me too

misty heron
#

Oh danggg

stoic island
#

got a kit of neo

lyric thistle
#

oh opp

misty heron
#

Thats cheaper but better

stoic island
#

mua

misty heron
#

Whattt

stoic island
#

hahaha

misty heron
#

Thats whackkk

stoic island
#

I am the quick boi

lyric thistle
#

smh

stoic island
#

you just gotta know where to look ;D

#

I really kinda want to record me snapping team ram in half

lyric thistle
#

smh

stoic island
#

and throw it in the trash where it belongs Dumb

lyric thistle
#

just send it to me

real seal
#

ghamer

lyric thistle
#

so I can feed it to Chrome

stoic island
#

nyet

#

it might actually BSOD you

cursive wharf
#

Give it to me, I like free 16gb RAM

stoic island
#

pricing bit off I think

lyric thistle
#

I'd go for the 16GB Aegis kit

misty heron
#

Noo budget builddd

#

My build budgetto

stoic island
lyric thistle
#

F

misty heron
#

Whats cas latency

stoic island
lyric thistle
#

Column Access Strobe (CAS) latency, or CL, is the delay time between the READ command and the moment data is available. In asynchronous DRAM, the interval is specified in nanoseconds (absolute time). In synchronous DRAM, the interval is specified in clock cycles. Because the ...

misty heron
#

Is 99 dollars reasonable for a 650w gold+ psu??

stoic island
#

@misty heron model matters ;D

misty heron
#

So lowrr = better

stoic island
#

MWE gold also OOS if thats what you're looking at

misty heron
#

IDK WHAT THOSE MEAN

cursive wharf
#

oh wait nvm

lyric thistle
#

don't get a 650 watt PSU for a Ryzen 3 if you're on a budget

stoic island
misty heron
#

I got ryzen 5

cursive wharf
#

cuz my settings

lyric thistle
#

oh ok Ryzen 5

stoic island
#

@misty heron what PSU you talking about

#

MWE Gold is out of stock

misty heron
stoic island
#

yea thats out of stock

#

click on best buy

misty heron
#

Im not buying atm

#

I am planning to buy at a future date so imma be constantly updating every few weeks or smthing if new parts come out

#

Buy would 99$ be reasonable

#

Or is that a scam @stoic island

stoic island
#

There are other factors in play other than wattage and 80+ rating, but that particular PSU at 100$ is worth it.

lyric thistle
#

ouch why does CX550 show on PCP as 199 USD

misty heron
#

Ppp says i only need like 413w so idk if i would need 650w

lyric thistle
#

is it oos

stoic island
#

yea

misty heron
#

Whats a oos

#

Nvm

stoic island
#

out of stock

lyric thistle
#

out of stock

misty heron
#

I got it

#

Hahha

#

Shoudl i go for lower psu

#

Cause im never gonna oc

#

Manually

stoic island
#

Well it's good if you upgrade to better stuff later

lyric thistle
#

get a 550 watt one

#

imo

stoic island
#

gotta check smth

misty heron
#

So upgrading is better or just starting off brand new cause my current build is like 4 years old

#

Yeah cause i dont think i need 650 tbh

cursive wharf
#

You can get a 550w one, if you can find one in stock

misty heron
#

Not planning to buy atmmm hei

lyric thistle
#

lol

cursive wharf
#

And stock could take months to get back in

misty heron
#

Does it even matter if its bronze silver or gold?

#

Yeah im planning to wait that long i cant even go to work cause of rona

cursive wharf
#

no, because that barely tells anything about actual PSU quality

misty heron
#

I only have 1000 in my acc rn

#

And im not trying to live off of ramen for months

#

So i can get like a bronze psu and it could work for several years on end @cursive wharf

stoic island
#

There are more to be considered

#

like

#

a lot more

#

than just wattage and 80+ rating

misty heron
#

Really?

stoic island
#

Yes

misty heron
#

What other varibles come into play when choosing psu?

stoic island
#

Protections, Fan fan failure rate sometimes, GPU shutdown issues sometimes,

cursive wharf
#

voltage regulation/ripple, protections (and whether they work properly), transient response, capacity quality, fan quality, noise (both from fan & coil whine), whether it's group regulated, whether it's multi rail, how good the solder quality is, what the failure rate is, and what the average failure of the PSU causes

stoic island
#

power ok hold up time

misty heron
#

How do i check those?

carmine mason
#

How much is too much for a case? I’ve decided I want out of my budget case and into something good, and I have my eyes on the Corsair 500D SE, but the $250 price tag is halting me

stoic island
#

and as it turns out, time between power ok and complete shutoff

misty heron
#

Dang thats somuch

stoic island
#

for G3

misty heron
#

Sharkshot i feel like 100 would be too much

#

Cause u dont really focus on the case that much when ur on ur computer

stoic island
#

did we mention inrush current

little osprey
#

Hey mates I hope everyone’s doing well. I had a quick question, I had my parts selected for my PC, but it turns out with shipping it’s going to cost wayyyyy more. So I’ve spent the last little while tweaking my parts and got the prices more manageable. The last think I need to do which I want your advice on is what cheaper case should I get. I was really stuck on the Fractal Design Meshify C mid ATX tower, because I think it’s a great case. But it’s over $150 (not including shipping), so I found this other case for $85 (not including shipping) it seems like it’s good. But I want your opinion on it? Or what cases do you recommend that has lots of space, multiple ssd/hdd sections and has a glass side panel for under $100?

cursive wharf
#

G2/P2 was legitimately bad PWR_OK. G3 I think was just kinda short

little osprey
#

Well it’s $96 on amazon

stoic island
#

oops wrong number

#

@little osprey check for Fractal Design Focus G

little osprey
#

I looked at it

carmine mason
#

I really want/need my 280m radiator on top as well, which is what’s throwing me off

misty heron
#

Return of jedi get nzxth510

little osprey
#

Do you recommend it?

misty heron
#

It looks nice hahaha

cursive wharf
#

But still arguably safe for them anyways. Made that post as a potential warning rather then a "this 100% kills things"

misty heron
#

Thats about it zD

#

XD

little osprey
#

I looked into the NZXTH510 but it doesn’t have the best air flow

misty heron
#

Looks like theres the red thingy for cable management and there seems to be a basement for psu

little osprey
#

Is the case I sent bad?

misty heron
#

Idk about airflow im still noob

little osprey
#

Same, but I did a lot of research on it

misty heron
#

So dont take what i say tok seriously

stoic island
#

time to look for GN review :D

misty heron
#

Gn?

lyric thistle
#

good night

#

sleep well

stoic island
#

Gamers Nexus

cursive wharf
#

airflow is considered as basic at first but is very complex in trying to understand actual airflow patterns

stoic island
#

They do great review work

misty heron
#

LOL

#

Gn mrmaniac

lyric thistle
#

:p

little osprey
#

Ah, I just know the fractal design Meshify C has better air flow

misty heron
#

Oh u arent gning?

little osprey
#

And the cooler master NR600 supposedly does

misty heron
#

Why are the 550w bronze 80+ psus more expensivethan the 650 gold 80+????

lyric thistle
#

xd

#

I think they're all out of stock

#

most popular option

stoic island
#

@misty heron stuff out of stock

#

makes the prices go wack

little osprey
#

I just don’t know what good case to get, that has multiple ssd/hdd slots, glass side, and lots of space for under $100

misty heron
#

Ahhh i see

little osprey
#

And has good air flow

misty heron
#

Nzxt for first list

#

My friend has it but a diff version i think

little osprey
#

Ah

misty heron
#

Tampered glass on side and idk about slots bit i like it

#

Too much wattage is bad right?

little osprey
#

The main thing I’m worried about is airflow

misty heron
#

Cause i c a 700w 80bronze for 74 dollars

#

And does modular matter??

stoic island
#

Okay, so @misty heron the exact model matters

#

for the bunch of reason we listed above

misty heron
#

Model for?

#

Case?

static briar
#

Hi I have a question

misty heron
#

Oh btw that long list for psus @stoic island and @cursive wharf how would i find out what a good quality psu woudl be

stoic island
misty heron
#

Ooh narutoo

stoic island
#

That does a great job of generalizing the capabilities of specific PSUs

cursive wharf
#

It takes a look at the long list that was given and gives the PSU a tier

#

based on how good the PSU is

stoic island
#

They also list their sources on why the PSUs are in the tier they are

static briar
#

I just finished building my pc and when I pressed the power button on the case the blue light blink but then it never stayed on but the gpu’s light stayed on??

stoic island
#

Does your motherboard have debug lights

static briar
#

Are u talkin to me?

#

What’s debug lights?

stoic island
static briar
#

It’s my first pc built

misty heron
#

Yayyu first built lets goo

stoic island
#

Those tell you why stuff doesn't boot

static briar
#

It does not

misty heron
#

L

stoic island
#

those are usually in the top right part next to the ram

#

might not look exactly like that

static briar
#

Why can’t I send u a pic??

stoic island
#

levels

misty heron
#

Rip

#

send dm it to him

#

Her?

#

Mr1111

little osprey
#

Recommendations for best cost-effective x570 mb?

next tangle
#

@lyric thistle I don''t really know how to fit that under 700$, he's gonna only be gaming

stoic island
#

@little osprey in stock now or can you wait

#

in stock now is wacky asf

little osprey
#

Like a month or so from now

static briar
#

Can I text I privately???

stoic island
#

Asus X570-p is usually pretty good

static briar
#

Who ever wants to help me

stoic island
#

Right click on my name and click message

little osprey
#

Will probably need wifi tbh

stoic island
#

if thats what you're asking

little osprey
#

Build going away from router

stoic island
#

uhh lemme check then

misty heron
#

@next tangle can us end link again

lyric thistle
#

@next tangle what in particular?

stoic island
#

Well when X570 tomahawk wifi comes out, that would be good

little osprey
#

For sure

misty heron
#

Mrmaniac u guys were saying trash ram

#

Cause it was like 2400mhz

little osprey
#

I heard people complain about vrm on the tomahawks

lyric thistle
#

trash ram trash ram

#

oh ok

misty heron
#

Wait kray

#

Theres better ram for cheaper

next tangle
#

@lyric thistle hold on, i'll try

misty heron
#

If u look hard enough

lyric thistle
#

well, 2400MHz isn't great for AMD

misty heron
#

@next tangle there was better ram for cheaper

next tangle
#

o

misty heron
#

I can send u the link for it

lyric thistle
#

are you looking for a 2x4 kit or 1x16?

#

wait oof

#

2x8

edgy cape
#

Installed a new power supply display port Dosent work now any troubleshoots?

next tangle
#

And I don't think I can put a better PSU since the PSU prices shot up

lyric thistle
#

^

misty heron
#

Thats better ram for cheaper

#

Send link kray!!

next tangle
#

?

misty heron
#

For ur pcbuild

#

Also what games r ur brother playing

#

Is he like playing kid games like roblox and minecraft?

next tangle
#

He's 17

misty heron
#

Oh

#

Well hes older than me xD

next tangle
#

but he does like to play roblox

misty heron
#

ME TOO

next tangle
#

and minecraft for his girlfriend

misty heron
#

phantom forces all the way

next tangle
#

he has a cheap laptop

misty heron
#

Ahh i c

lyric thistle
#

girlfriend 😳

misty heron
#

Egirl?

lyric thistle
#

egirl egirl

next tangle
#

sorry, I messed up, im building it for my friend

#

and no, she's not an egirl

misty heron
#

lol

next tangle
#

he parents own a setup

misty heron
#

Sure she isnt

next tangle
#

but I'm gonna put a list together for my brother's pc under 500

drowsy fractal
#

hmmmm

misty heron
#

Get a load of this guy @lyric thistle

next tangle
#

but that's later

pastel briar
#

@foggy hazel you around?

next tangle
#

that's what I've edited so far

#

My friend is selling his laptop with an rtx 2080 mobile max Q

misty heron
#

Thats under 700

#

What else r u planning @next tangle

next tangle
#

psu

misty heron
#

Ohhh right

next tangle
#

i need a psu

misty heron
#

L

#

Try looking for one here

#

Try getting on i think around 450 would be fine

lyric thistle
#

you can get a GTX 1660 Super for around 240 from what I can tell on PCP, vs the 5600XT for 280

next tangle
#

is the 1660 super better than a 2080 mobile max q?

lyric thistle
#

probably not xd

next tangle
#

see

#

I'm gonna go used for the GPU

#

for a 1070 ti, it's 259.95

#

That'll make some headroom for the PSU

#

44$ :/

#

okay well he just told me his budget is now 750$..

#

so 94$ for a PSU

lyric thistle
#

the GPU in the list you linked about is the 5600XT?

next tangle
#

edited it

lyric thistle
#

ok

misty heron
#

@next tangle can u try getting 240 or 256gb for ssd then a fatter drive for hdd?

#

Or are the games ur friend plays heavy

#

Sorry lemme reword. What games does ur friend play?

next tangle
#

Heavy

#

and he plans on uploading

#

his current laptop holds like 260 gigs

#

and he needs more

misty heron
#

Uploading videos?

next tangle
#

yup

misty heron
#

Cant u put those on an hdd? @lyric thistle

next tangle
#

and you can

#

but it'll be slow

#

I want him to experience how fast it is

misty heron
#

There are some cheaper storage for 500gb ssdd

#

Idk if they r good or not tho mrmaniac3 inputs?

next tangle
#

I use something called userbenchmark

lyric thistle
#

ST2000DM008 is the best current hard drive imo

next tangle
#

and those SSD's are slow

misty heron
#

Ohh i do too

#

Oh really?

next tangle
#

yeah

#

and I prefer to go M.2

misty heron
#

There are slow ssds???

next tangle
#

some are

lyric thistle
#

pinned

next tangle
#

when i say slow, i'm comparing it to the m.2 ssd i listed

lyric thistle
#

check out that SSD list ^^

next tangle
#

alright, my friend wants it to go back down to 700$

#

is that good?

stoic island
#

Silicon power A80/Team MP34 best value rn

next tangle
#

yeah I've seen the a80

misty heron
#

How would i determine which ssds are good from the list??

#

Bro its 6 dollars over budget

#

Oh no

next tangle
#

I got to the website it is sold at and I'd read the products' description

#

go*

misty heron
#

Get it down get it down!!!

next tangle
#

lmao it's fin

#

fine*

#

So I'm guessing my list is fine now?

misty heron
#

Oh really?

#

Ask @lyric thistle for check

lyric thistle
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

I think it looks pretty good

#

don't use my word as a particularly good word though 😉

#

I'd use that computer tho tbh

drowsy fractal
#

so

#

is this where we build a bear?

misty heron
#

Maybe

#

A new person!

drowsy fractal
#

lol yes... i'm a rookie. Go ahead and get it over with. -.-/

#

oh wait

#

nvm

misty heron
#

Im bigger noob than u xD

drowsy fractal
#

i've leveled up

#

wooo

#

im blue

edgy cape
#

Power supply can kill a drive right?

earnest olive
#

looking for recommendations for rgb led strips with 12V 4-pin connectors

fast dust
#

@edgy cape A bad power supply can kill anything

#

And it won't just kill... it'll commit mass murder

little leaf
eager chasm
#

Fried GPU is the worst part

little leaf
#

@eager chasm ?

eager chasm
#

these are the fans I used in my previous builds

#

the price is a bit expensive atm

fast dust
#

Arctic P12

little leaf
#

ye that was what I was thinking

stoic island
#

Arctic p12/p14 for rads

#

Arctic f12/f14 for airflow

#

I have some P14s, work great.

little leaf
#

I'll get some f12s then

subtle halo
#

@foggy hazel @edgy cape needs your assistance :)

fast dust
#

He's Dming me

#

But IDK if I can help that much 😅

next kestrel
#

@little leaf u should spend like 10 more bucks and go for the seagate 2tb hdd

little leaf
#

@next kestrel trying to stay as close to 650 as posible with future upgradibiltiy

stoic island
#

@next kestrel OOS when I checked earlier

#

Very sad

#

But oos

next kestrel
#

actually :oo

edgy cape
#

@foggy hazel

next kestrel
#

i saw it in stock today

#

jeez

edgy cape
#

Need help with power supply

stoic island
#

I loved to just slap it in any list I make

#

But

#

It gone

little leaf
#

check pins dance

stoic island
#

It sad

next kestrel
#

:((

little leaf
#

@stoic island anything better than what I got for the list above staying as close to 650? with upgradibility for the future?

edgy cape
#

Plugged my old power supply

#

And still no hardrive or ssd

stoic island
#

Fair nuff

#

@little leaf PSU pricing is all over the place, normally that wouldn't be great, but right now I think that's all we got xD

little leaf
#

ye

#

thats in b- in teir list

#

or c I think

stoic island
#

2 tiers lower

#

It's in C

#

Cx is in B+

next kestrel
#

idk i feel like psu taking up like 1/6 your budget is kinda wack

stoic island
#

Pricing is also wack

#

Sooo

next kestrel
#

i have a c tier psu that ive used for like 3 builds

#

true

stoic island
#

I have a PSU that used to be listed in D tier

#

But it's A- now

next kestrel
#

?? lmao

edgy cape
#

So I plugged my old psu back and still no boot priority I’m guessing it kileld my hardrive and ssd?

stoic island
#

Wack no idea

next kestrel
#

idk people say dont cheap out on psu

#

with like a 700$ build

edgy cape
#

It’s a sea sonic gold plus 80

next kestrel
#

ik about future upgradability

edgy cape
#

750w

stoic island
#

@next kestrel usually cx 550 is around at like 60$ yaknow

#

Decent PSU at good price

next kestrel
#

but is any 700$ system gonna pull over 500w?

stoic island
#

Instead of some Trust PSU yaknow

next kestrel
#

true

#

i remember i got the cv 450 for like 20 dollars

stoic island
#

But is your cheapo 450w gonna have more than 1 pcie connector for any bigger GPUs?

next kestrel
#

with rebate

stoic island
#

:p

next kestrel
#

i mean yeah

#

mine does :))

stoic island
#

What is it

#

I'd like to see

next kestrel
#

evga bq

sullen spoke
#

Cheapy on psu no good

next kestrel
#

bronze

#

500w semi

#

got it when it was 50 or 45 cant remember

stoic island
#

That's 500w lmao

#

I said 450

next kestrel
#

true

#

and the cv450 for my other build i think has it?

#

got it from Newegg2 for like 20 with rebate

stoic island
#

Pretty sure no

#

I checked CV a bit back

next kestrel
stoic island
#

Huh

#

Lmfao

#

Amazon reviews are so wackt

#

They grouped cxm reviews with cv

next kestrel
#

lmaooo

#

its like a color yknow lol

#

we have the cx color

#

and cv color

stoic island
next kestrel
#

thank you amaon, very cool

stoic island
#

Like

#

If this was on Newegg I wouldn't have had any confusion

#

Agh

#

God-damned Amazon

next kestrel
#

sucks that newegg doesnt have lots of reviews tho

edgy cape
#

For this I’m not missing any plugs right?

stoic island
#

@next kestrel but Newegg had amazing specification pages

lyric thistle
#

well it's running

edgy cape
#

Suppose to be anything in between?

stoic island
#

Amazon like

#

Didn't have one

next kestrel
#

yeah, newegg makes up for the reviews with basically the company website on their specification pages

lyric thistle
#

that;s a fan header

next kestrel
#

amazon doesnt bother putting things in specifications lol

lyric thistle
#

in between the power and USB

#

if you had another fan, you could plug it in there

next kestrel
#

bruh in amazon i have a hard time even finding the panel types sometimes lul

stoic island
#

Ah but could I run SLI? You don't know

#

Do I need 8+8 power or 8+6 power? You don't know

#

TDP? You don't know

#

Also that 15.5ghz speed lmao

#

Memory speed too lmao

#

It had a base clock of 1550mhz get it right

little leaf
#

one last check before I give it to my friend

eager chasm
#

I would recommend a slightly better ram kit for a few more dollars, like gskill ripjaws V, but it's not really needed and it looks good

next tangle
#

budget is 250$

little leaf
#

Only web browsing?

next tangle
#

yes

little leaf
#

Absolutely nothing else

next tangle
#

nooope

#

it's for like accounting

little leaf
#

Y lol

next tangle
#

they run a business

#

like they own a business

#

and need it

little leaf
#

Aight they wont be downloading anything?

next tangle
#

chrome, turbo tax

#

really it

little leaf
#

Looks fine

next tangle
#

alright

#

AND WE'RE GONNA PLAY MINECRAFT WITH RTX ON 😉

#

PLUS 3 GTA 5 INSTANCES RUNNING AT ONCE WITH MAX SETTINGS

fallow schooner
#

Does anyone know of a semi modular 500-600W PSU? I can’t seem to find one in my psu budget which is $50-$100.

little leaf
#

@fallow schooner you can easily get full modular 550watt with tgat

#

But maybe not at the moment

fallow schooner
#

Sweet, yeah I’ve been trying to get parts to build my first pc while I have nothing to do but nothing is in stock

#

Thank you!

little leaf
#

Would recommend rmx550w but really hard to find atm

#

If you check the pinned messages you can see what psu is good before you choose it

fallow schooner
#

Oh, this helps a lot! ty

little leaf
#

Np

midnight pelican
#

the rm 750 gold is still 120 I think

#

It was this weekend at least

next tangle
#

my brother found a 1660 ti, 165hz 0.5ms monitor and rm750x psu all for 5.39$ each

#

and it's arriving tomorrow

#

i'll tell you if it's real

#

ordered on amazon

#

with prime

midnight pelican
#

I saw some seller selling an x570 for five dollars too off amazon but the lister was gone before I could actually buy it

next tangle
#

no

#

it was 5.39$

#

just that

midnight pelican
#

Yeah

next tangle
#

not 5.39$ off

#

oh yeah

#

that's the same seller

midnight pelican
#

5.39 only

next tangle
#

i found a 1600x and some other things

#

and a few x570 mobos

#

so we bought some to see if it's real

midnight pelican
#

They took it off within 10 minutes of me finding it

next tangle
#

since it's 5.39$ each, what's there to lose

midnight pelican
#

do u have the sellers name

#

I wanna check to see if it’s still there lol

#

true

next tangle
#

it's not

#

it's not there anymore

#

i saw

midnight pelican
#

Hm

#

Well

#

Let me know lol

#

@little leaf this is still 138

#

I mean it’s up 20 dollars but still better than a 200% price gouge

static briar
#

Hi I have a question

#

Does it matter what psu you use for the motherboard??

#

I have a ASUS prime b450 a-csm and a 500w psu

eager chasm
#

Technically no, but it's recommended you don't use low quality PSUs

#

In the pinned messages is a link to a tier list of PSUs based on quality and reliability

sudden turret
coral verge
#

Hello I’m very new to pc and I want to get one but I don’t know what to do

#

I want to build one but I’m a novice so I think pre built would be better

sullen spoke
#

we always encourage building, but right now is not a great time to get a pc since certain events, many things are high in price or out of stock

#

you could still build a pc tho if you need

coral verge
#

Ok so I should wait then

sullen spoke
#

If you can, it would probably be better

coral verge
#

Ok that cool I just want a gaming pc but I don’t have a huge budget

misty heron
#

nooo dont get prebuilt

#

anyone can build a pc

#

literally a 7th grader could do it

pastel briar
#

Does it matter what psu you use for the motherboard??
@static briar

Yes it CAN matter, as in don't use a Chinese bargain basement IED for a PSU...bad things could (and usually do) happen...See Exhibit A

Check the Pinned messages for the PSU tier list, generally anything from Tier C and above is find (Tier C kind of pushing it but still acceptable for people who have a strict budget to keep in mind), preferably Tier A or higher is where you want to get your PSU from if at all possible.

hushed cipher
#

I need help badly

buoyant flame
#

With what

#

If you share the question people will be more likely to help

hushed cipher
#

I’ve just installed a 1660 graphics card and I’m getting no images on my monitor it’s loading just not showing

#

Please ignore the cable management it was a pre build without a graphics card in it

buoyant flame
#

Hmm

hushed cipher
#

It will load and just won’t post

buoyant flame
#

I'm not actually sure. You could try resetting the cmos

misty heron
#

oh

hushed cipher
#

It will post without the graphics card in there

misty heron
#

is ur cable connected to the gpu

#

like hdmi monitor cable

#

cause my dumbass connected it to the motherboard one time

#

and it didnt showt he picture

#

XD

static briar
#

Does it matter what psu you use for the motherboard?? I have a ASUS prime b450 a-csm and a 500w evga psu

#

Because for some reason my pc won’t turn on

hushed cipher
#

My monitors don’t have hdmi ports they are pretty old and use vga I’ve plugged it in to my tv and it still doesn’t work

static briar
#

And I have everything plugged in right

#

Please help me

buoyant flame
#

This might sound dumb but are you sure you switched the psu on?@static briar

static briar
#

Yeh

buoyant flame
#

Is this a new build?

static briar
#

Like it turns on but the fans won’t spin

#

Yeah

buoyant flame
#

Did you test boot before you put it together

static briar
#

What is that??

buoyant flame
#

Where you check to see if the components post outside the case before you put them all together in the case

static briar
#

Nah I didn’t do that how do I do that?

buoyant flame
#

Well its too late now I was just asking

static briar
#

Wym ??

buoyant flame
#

Something might not be seated correctly

static briar
#

Like I see a light on the gpu and motherboard put when I go to turn it on from psu but when I turn it on from the case it stays the same

#

Or maybe they gave me a bad part

misty heron
#

which of thse 3 ram sticks would be the best one?

buoyant flame
#

Does your motherboard have a led indicator for errors @static briar

static briar
#

I wish

#

But no

buoyant flame
#

Ok

misty heron
#

oh dang ur still looking

#

rip knowpain

#

i was here like 9 hrs ago

static briar
#

Yea bro

#

Ik

buoyant flame
#

All those sticks have the same latency and speed so pick whichever one is cheapest @misty heron

misty heron
#

oh really ? that tufff

buoyant flame
#

I would get the black ripjaws personally

static briar
#

So there is nun I can’t do ??

buoyant flame
#

@static briar I'm not sure and I need to go rn but I'm sure someone else will help you. Sry I wasn't of much help

static briar
#

Kk

misty heron
#

@buoyant flame justegg bc they look nice?

#

would 1x8 or 2x4 be better for ram?

#

cause i see a 1x8 stick for 35 dollars

stoic island
#

2x4 for dual channel if you don't plan on upgrading soon
But I'd suggest upgrading to 16gb whenever possible

lavish sonnet
#

So I'm getting a ryzen 5 3600 today and I was wonding of I should be thinking about upgrading my gpu as well it's a Rx 570 8gb card

static briar
#

Anyone else wants to help me ??

pastel briar
#

It will post without the graphics card in there
@hushed cipher

reset the CMOS (power down PC, then remove power cord and battery, let sit for about 30 seoconds, then you most likely will need to boot into the BIOS and configure the system to use the external GPU (the GPU you just installed) then reboot and allow to boot, your PC is trying to use the IGPU (integrated GPU) it came with and we need to tell it not to use that

misty heron
#

@stoic island i dont play heavy games tho so would i still really ned that

pastel briar
#

Does it matter what psu you use for the motherboard?? I have a ASUS prime b450 a-csm and a 500w evga psu
@static briar have you seen my comment above? I am pretty sure I did reply to this and provided an answer to you?

misty heron
#

@stoic island how do i even set up dual channel?

stoic island
#

16gb is becoming the norm

#

Its just 2 stick of ram, it isn't software or anything

misty heron
#

ph

#

oh

#

is it like putting one in the first and one in 3rd slot?

pastel briar
#

@misty heron to "set up" dual channel just plug in your two sticks of memory in the proper "channel" (usually labled in pairs with A1, B1 - A2, B2) and your good to go, 8 GB is honestly the minimum I would go with modern day, 16 is slowly starting to become the new norm out there in the wild...

#

NOTE: if you have more just rinse wash and repeat as applicable

#

@stoic island sorry if I took over with what you were helping with 😄 I yeild it back to your hands 😄

stoic island
#

Don't worry, I'm just jumping between general and here doing random stuff

pastel briar
#

cool

hushed cipher
#

@pastel briar ok thanks so when rebooting should i put the card in or after ive doen everything

pastel briar
#

if it can POST with the card in then just leave it in and boot to bios (some boards need something plugged in to "detect" what to switch to, or enable the option)

misty heron
#

nooo but i want it as cheap as possible

hushed cipher
#

ok it wont post at all with the card in

misty heron
#

cause my mommy doesnt want me

pastel briar
#

just make sure (going off memory here) you have your display plugged into the intigrated GPU (mother board on board out put)

misty heron
#

spenind all of my money

#

the cheaper the whole thign

#

the faster i can try to get it

hushed cipher
#

ok my displays are always connected through the main io off my motherboard

pastel briar
#

@hushed cipher have you attempted to boot with your display plugged into the GPU you added in or did you leave them in the mainboard?

hushed cipher
#

i cant plug them in to the gpu as my displayes are old and use vga but i plugged it in to my tv via hdmi and still nothing

pastel briar
#

ok

hushed cipher
#

It’s done it again it will not post with the gpu plugged in

misty heron
#

wait why is dual channel better than single?

pastel briar
#

@hushed cipher have you reset the bios and change the input options?

@misty heron performance gains

misty heron
#

oh and i had a question

#

in the cpus and mobos and memory chat

#

if ur uhhh free

#

hehe

cold sorrel
#

VGA to HDMI adaptors exist, you know. And are relatively inexpensive.

hushed cipher
#

No I’ve been in to the bios but I don’t have a clue what the hell im doing I’ve just seen this video to disable my onboard graphics through device manager

misty heron
#

why are there 1tb drives that are cheaper than 500g XD

pastel briar
#

@hushed cipher what board are you using?

misty heron
#

is m2 datadrive better than 2.5"

hushed cipher
#

I’m not sure it’s a Asus one

misty heron
#

ssd*

pastel briar
#

@hushed cipher do you still have the box it came in, if you do the model should be listed some where on that, that will help me get relivent info to try and help you out better

tranquil dust
#

depends on if it is nvme or not

misty heron
#

nvme?

hushed cipher
#

No it was a pre build I’ve had for many years

tranquil dust
#

nvme is an interface for m2

hushed cipher
#

And it was only using the on board graphics

misty heron
#

so if its nvme then its better than 2.5"

tranquil dust
#

yes

misty heron
#

i see i see

tranquil dust
#

if not then it is basically a sata ssd in the m.2 form factor

misty heron
#

oh okay

#

and another question

tranquil dust
#

yes?

misty heron
#

would getting a 3600x be better than 2600x?

tranquil dust
#

yes

misty heron
#

cause on amazon

#

its 5 dollars more

tranquil dust
#

7nm vs 12nm

#

and higher clocks on the 3600x

modest kraken
#

I have all the parts to my computer but not the cpu can I build the computer and install the cpu last instead of first

misty heron
#

which one is 7nm

tranquil dust
#

3600x

wary geode
#

3600x is better

#

but the thing is

hushed cipher
wary geode
#

a 3600 is prettyt mcuh the smae but with one less clock speed

tranquil dust
#

i believe that is the board name

#

/model

wary geode
#

yeah @tranquil dust

stoic island
#

@modest kraken no

wary geode
#

thats where it shgows on my bios

stoic island
#

it will be a pain in your rear to install the CPU and cooler when it's already installed in the case

#

best to wait

#

and install it into the mobo before you put it in the case

sullen spoke
#

cpu first always

wary geode
#

yea i agree with @stoic island

sullen spoke
#

don't be like the verge

stoic island
#

lol

misty heron
#

1 less clock speed?

#

@wary geode so 3600 and 3600x is the same but clock speed for 3600 is slower?

tranquil dust
#

basically

stoic island
#

@misty heron stock clock is slower

misty heron
#

by how much?

tranquil dust
#

you can just get a 3600 and oc it to 3600x speeds

stoic island
#

like 300 mhz or so iirc

wary geode
#

oops i meant it has a boost clock increase and a ase clock increase by a few percent

tranquil dust
#

200mhz

wary geode
#

its bout 200 mhz faster tho

misty heron
#

is that a noticable difference?

#

im not comfortable with ocing

buoyant flame
#

Not for most people, you'll notice it in benchmark scores but thats about it

#

Your just gaming right?

misty heron
#

ohhhh nice

#

yea

buoyant flame
#

Then it won't be noticeable for you

wary geode
#

i would just gte the 3600 cheaper i guess...

misty heron
#

yayyyy

#

do these parts usually go down in price

jagged ember
#

yeah good choice

wary geode
#

yeah

misty heron
#

after a while

#

nice

jagged ember
#

if you never plan on overclocking, the x version isn't worth it

wary geode
#

i mean mirco center sometimes sell for 165

#

and with the mb combo 145

jagged ember
#

I'm rocking the 3600 myself and it's great

misty heron
#

reallyy???

#

145

#

omfg

#

thats