#building-and-recc-chat | Newegg | Page 524

pastel briar May 9, 2020, 4:14 AM

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spice shore May 9, 2020, 4:18 AM

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hey so i’m wanting to build my first build and i have about 700 dollars i need help

potent prairie May 9, 2020, 4:22 AM

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What do you want to do with it

spice shore May 9, 2020, 4:23 AM

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i’m hoping to build a mid gaming pc with maybe 70+fps and 1080 but i think that’s gonna cost more than700

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@potent prairie

potent prairie May 9, 2020, 4:24 AM

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I don't think so... Not if you already have a screen

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Gimme a sec

spice shore May 9, 2020, 4:25 AM

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yeah i already have a 1080 144hz 1ms monitor

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ok @potent prairie

potent prairie May 9, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Lemmie see, I think someone smarter than me had posted a machine perfect for that

spice shore May 9, 2020, 4:26 AM

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haha for my budget?

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@potent prairie

potent prairie May 9, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Yeah

spice shore May 9, 2020, 4:29 AM

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ok just tell me if you find it

little leaf May 9, 2020, 4:30 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qk3ZK4

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potent prairie May 9, 2020, 4:30 AM

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$800 PC that could easily handle most 1080p games on medium or high: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9tWhx6
I didn't make this list, but I can make suggestions to take it under budget

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little leaf May 9, 2020, 4:30 AM

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need a cheap but reliable power supply for that

spice shore May 9, 2020, 4:30 AM

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ok what’s your suggestions

potent prairie May 9, 2020, 4:31 AM

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@little leaf check pinned messages for a PSU tier list

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One aec

little leaf May 9, 2020, 4:31 AM

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ik but I don't wanna

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all of the entry level gaming are too expensiv

spice shore May 9, 2020, 4:31 AM

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id take the monitor off

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and it’ll be 700

potent prairie May 9, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Oh. Perfect :)

spice shore May 9, 2020, 4:32 AM

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thanks

potent prairie May 9, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Np, just stole the list :)

pastel briar May 9, 2020, 4:38 AM

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@little leaf depending on your build a good rule of thumb is to get at least 80+ bronze, some brands I have had good luck with (though most of these are either Tier 1 or Tier 2 PSUs anyways) are Corsair CX series (if I need something that fits in the budget range but gives me good quality), Silverstone, and currently run a Corsair SF 550W PSU (IIRC its a platinum)

For more on what I am talking about as far as the tier list is concerned (the higher the tier the better Tier S being the really good ones and Tier 1 being the top end, and going down (any thing from T4 or lower just stay away from these please) you can visit https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

also reason why I say stay away from the Tier 4 or lower PSUs (note if there are any more tiers beyond Tier 4 they also are being included in the stay away warning). I hope this info help answer your question and sorry for the wall o' text but I figure I might as well help you get the best for your build.

As for any psu decision please make sure you get a quality psu, don’t cheap out or worse don’t get one of the Chinese IEDs

(See pictures for the afore mentioned "Chinese IEDs" as they show why you should NOT cheap out on the PSU at all) Sorry for a wall of text but I would rather impart a wall of text that gives you knowledge to use then to let you risk your life, house, family or safety of all mentioned with the Chinese IED.

📎 burnt_pc_5.jpg

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PSU Tier List 4.0

PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 12.4 welcome to the brand new PSU Tier List! Created and maintained by @DatTestBench, @Stefan Payne, @GreatMasterAden, @Juular, @Elisis, @Maurice from Madagascar and @LukeSavenije Last Update: 12-04-2020 Tiering of various units is opinion based off repu...

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little leaf May 9, 2020, 4:38 AM

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@pastel briar I've been using that already

pastel briar May 9, 2020, 4:39 AM

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ok cool, I just saw your comment of "I want a cheap PSU" and with PSUs that is one thing you do not want to go cheap on

potent prairie May 9, 2020, 4:43 AM

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@pastel briar
80 percent above? That seems excessive

little leaf May 9, 2020, 4:43 AM

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no like cheap to the point where I get the cheapest possible reliable one

spice shore May 9, 2020, 4:44 AM

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it says there are problems with this build

little leaf May 9, 2020, 4:44 AM

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what does it say

spice shore May 9, 2020, 4:44 AM

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it won’t let me post the link

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why

little leaf May 9, 2020, 4:45 AM

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your not level 3 yet

spice shore May 9, 2020, 4:45 AM

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oh

little leaf May 9, 2020, 4:45 AM

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you need to be blue

potent prairie May 9, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Pm me the link, I can send it for you

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/193450841617
$40 for a c tier 500watt
https://www.ebay.com/itm/133405874404
$55 for the same c tier in 600 watts

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9tWhx6 (for @spice shore )

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pastel briar May 9, 2020, 4:49 AM

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@potent prairie 80% above? no the PSUs are rated in efficiency as in 80% efficiency, unless your trying to ask something different?

stoic island May 9, 2020, 4:49 AM

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@pastel briar should edit your block of text to not include the "tier 5 or 6" from the other tier list

pastel briar May 9, 2020, 4:50 AM

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perhaps, thanks for the catch

stoic island May 9, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Also, you might want to use 80+ since that usually means 80+ efficiency rating

potent prairie May 9, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Well I thought you were saying
Take the pcpp recommendation and multiply it by 1.8

pastel briar May 9, 2020, 4:51 AM

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i believe that might have been someone else then?

stoic island May 9, 2020, 4:51 AM

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In your block of text you said "get at least 80% above your rated power equipment"

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Maybe you mean get at least 80+ rated power supply?

pastel briar May 9, 2020, 4:53 AM

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give me a min and ill read it again for context perhaps I did mean 80+

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ok I changed it so it makes more sense

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sorry if it confused you

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@stoic island enjoy, again thanks for the catch

stoic island May 9, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Lemme edit out the tier # stuff that was referring to other tier list

pastel briar May 9, 2020, 4:59 AM

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I don't know what number scheme the LTT one uses, last I remember they had numbers at one point

stoic island May 9, 2020, 5:01 AM

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@Squidkiller_38 [i79700k 2070S] depending on your build a good rule of thumb is to get at least 80+ bronze, some brands I have had good luck with (though most of these are either Tier A or Tier B+ PSUs anyways) are Corsair CX series (if I need something that fits in the budget range but gives me good quality), Silverstone, and currently run a Corsair SF 550W PSU (IIRC its a platinum)

For more on what I am talking about as far as the tier list is concerned (the higher the tier the better Tier S being the top end, and going down (any thing from Tier C or lower just stay away from these please) you can visit https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

also reason why I say stay away from the Tier C or lower PSUs (note that any more tiers beyond Tier C they also are being included in the stay away warning). I hope this info help answer your question and sorry for the wall o' text but I figure I might as well help you get the best for your build.

As for any psu decision please make sure you get a quality psu, don’t cheap out or worse don’t get one of the Chinese IEDs

(See pictures for the afore mentioned "Chinese IEDs" as they show why you should NOT cheap out on the PSU at all) Sorry for a wall of text but I would rather impart a wall of text that gives you knowledge to use then to let you risk your life, house, family or safety of all mentioned with the Chinese IED.

Linus Tech Tips

PSU Tier List 4.0

PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 12.4 welcome to the brand new PSU Tier List! Created and maintained by @DatTestBench, @Stefan Payne, @GreatMasterAden, @Juular, @Elisis, @Maurice from Madagascar and @LukeSavenije Last Update: 12-04-2020 Tiering of various units is opinion based off repu...

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LTT tier list use letters

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At least they do now

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Usually anything above C is fine

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I go for B+ and above whenever possible

pastel briar May 9, 2020, 5:01 AM

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ah ok, that would be why some confusion may have been going on 😄 sorry about that

stoic island May 9, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Hey, you should get used to the LTT tier list, we like using and referring to it :D

pastel briar May 9, 2020, 5:02 AM

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that is usually what I referr to, I just remember when it was numbers, not letters 😄

stoic island May 9, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Fair nuff

pastel briar May 9, 2020, 5:03 AM

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😄

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well my Blinky light boxes with fans are working 😄

stoic island May 9, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Mine too :D

pastel briar May 9, 2020, 5:08 AM

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mine have the power of hamsters....I win 😄

stoic island May 9, 2020, 5:10 AM

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My friend has the power of guinea pigs!

pastel briar May 9, 2020, 5:12 AM

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yea well I have another one with bunnies and unicorns!!

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😄

stoic island May 9, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Well then uh

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I got narwhals

pastel briar May 9, 2020, 5:15 AM

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damn....

little osprey May 9, 2020, 5:22 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RRdXGc

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Is this wack?

floral walrus May 9, 2020, 5:36 AM

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based off what they said about mine, skip the raidmax psu and find a more reliable one

little leaf May 9, 2020, 6:27 AM

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@stoic island thoughts?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VXRvk6

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for a friend

tepid basalt May 9, 2020, 6:29 AM

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just get the 3300x

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or no, up the gpu

little osprey May 9, 2020, 6:30 AM

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I’m not made of cashy

little leaf May 9, 2020, 6:38 AM

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aight but their not out yet

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wait nvm neither of the are out

uneven wraith May 9, 2020, 6:41 AM

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Has Anyone here done any setup upgrades recently? I’m looking to buy a GPU and a case.

little leaf May 9, 2020, 6:43 AM

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yes

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@uneven wraith whats your budget

uneven wraith May 9, 2020, 6:46 AM

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Pretty low, probably $500.

little leaf May 9, 2020, 6:46 AM

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for both gpu and case

uneven wraith May 9, 2020, 6:46 AM

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Preferably lower though

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Yep

little leaf May 9, 2020, 6:46 AM

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ok what do you have now?

uneven wraith May 9, 2020, 6:47 AM

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A laptop lol

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I’ve got a MOBO and an I5 7th gen

little osprey May 9, 2020, 6:47 AM

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Fractal meshy C

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is cheap caase

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then get like a 2060 super

little leaf May 9, 2020, 6:48 AM

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Ye

little osprey May 9, 2020, 6:48 AM

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if you can splurge more get a 2070 super

uneven wraith May 9, 2020, 6:48 AM

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That might work, I meant used stuff, which is why I asked if anyone had done upgrades, but a 2060 might be decent.

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I was looking at a 1660 for a while

little leaf May 9, 2020, 6:49 AM

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Ok do you have a psu?

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And ram

little osprey May 9, 2020, 6:49 AM

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if you go to build pics, the case on the right is the fractal meshify C\

uneven wraith May 9, 2020, 6:51 AM

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The case looks niceeeee

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I’ve got ram, no PSU yet

little osprey May 9, 2020, 6:51 AM

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left is the h500i

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you can get a evga 650w GS or GA for like 80-100

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gold rated

little leaf May 9, 2020, 6:52 AM

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Ok james

uneven wraith May 9, 2020, 6:52 AM

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I’ve also got an extra fan

little leaf May 9, 2020, 6:52 AM

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50 dollars for psu

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70-80dollars for ram

little osprey May 9, 2020, 6:52 AM

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above the video of my custom loop dragonball theme is the H710i case

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but full modular psu are the best

little leaf May 9, 2020, 6:52 AM

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50-60 dollars case

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Here what are the parts you havr

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Like what processor and what mobo

uneven wraith May 9, 2020, 6:53 AM

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I’ve got an I5 7th gen, 16 Gb ram, MOBO, cpu cooler, and a fan

little leaf May 9, 2020, 6:54 AM

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Ok so you do have ram

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But what is the model of cpu

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And what mobo do you have

little osprey May 9, 2020, 6:54 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/evga-650-b5-220-b5-0650-v1-650w/p/N82E16817438166?cm_sp=SearchSuccess-_-INFOCARD-_-evga+650w+gs-_-17-438-166-_-1&Description=evga+650w+gs is even ok enough for the build

uneven wraith May 9, 2020, 6:55 AM

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I’m not exactly sure of either as I bought them used, but I can check.

little osprey May 9, 2020, 6:56 AM

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gotta be careful with used as wlel

uneven wraith May 9, 2020, 6:57 AM

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Yeah, I knew the guy though.

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Played with him online for a while too so I saw how his stuff ran.

little osprey May 9, 2020, 6:59 AM

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👍

uneven wraith May 9, 2020, 7:00 AM

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I know he paired it with a 1660 TI which ran quite well

little osprey May 9, 2020, 7:00 AM

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1660ti is good

little leaf May 9, 2020, 7:00 AM

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How mcuh u pay for it all?

little osprey May 9, 2020, 7:00 AM

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if that's what you can manage

uneven wraith May 9, 2020, 7:00 AM

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$150

little osprey May 9, 2020, 7:00 AM

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150 for all of that?

little leaf May 9, 2020, 7:00 AM

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Thats really good

little osprey May 9, 2020, 7:00 AM

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b450 boarD?

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or what

uneven wraith May 9, 2020, 7:01 AM

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Canadian, yeah.

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I have no idea, it’s got no markings

little osprey May 9, 2020, 7:01 AM

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should be able to pull from serial

little leaf May 9, 2020, 7:01 AM

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No

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Its intel

little osprey May 9, 2020, 7:01 AM

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lol oops

little leaf May 9, 2020, 7:01 AM

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I57th

little osprey May 9, 2020, 7:01 AM

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ahhh older

uneven wraith May 9, 2020, 7:02 AM

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Like no markings whatsoever on the board. I can take some pics in the morning.

little osprey May 9, 2020, 7:02 AM

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weird, most boards have alot of markings or names on them

uneven wraith May 9, 2020, 7:04 AM

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Yeah this one is pretty bland

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It’s a smaller board, 2 ram slots and just the one GPU slot or whatever the hell its called

little leaf May 9, 2020, 7:07 AM

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What cpu though

uneven wraith May 9, 2020, 7:07 AM

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Uh lemme see

little leaf May 9, 2020, 7:08 AM

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Any company name on ur board?

uneven wraith May 9, 2020, 7:08 AM

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Shoot I was way wrong

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7400

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No name on the board

little leaf May 9, 2020, 7:11 AM

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Oof ok thats ddr3

little osprey May 9, 2020, 7:12 AM

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pretty dated

uneven wraith May 9, 2020, 7:14 AM

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Yeah I’m probably gonna get a new one at this point

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Might just sell the whole thing and start fresh

little leaf May 9, 2020, 7:15 AM

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I mean the i57400 was selling on ebay for 100 bucks

fringe wharf May 9, 2020, 7:16 AM

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how can you tell what you need in a case

uneven wraith May 9, 2020, 7:17 AM

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I mean for ram, a MOBO and the CPU I could probably get my $150 back

foggy hazel May 9, 2020, 7:19 AM

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@uneven wraith that sounds like a ITX board

little leaf May 9, 2020, 7:19 AM

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Ye

foggy hazel May 9, 2020, 7:19 AM

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cpu-z should be able to tell you what board it is

little leaf May 9, 2020, 7:19 AM

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Or a badly spaced matx

foggy hazel May 9, 2020, 7:19 AM

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"It’s a smaller board, 2 ram slots and just the one GPU slot or whatever the hell its called"

little leaf May 9, 2020, 7:20 AM

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Thats often what pre built matx boards have

foggy hazel May 9, 2020, 7:20 AM

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they have 1*16 and 2-3 other slots

uneven wraith May 9, 2020, 7:21 AM

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I mean even ddr3 would run better than my current setup by farrrrrr lol

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I’ve got an HP laptop rn lol

little leaf May 9, 2020, 7:23 AM

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@foggy hazel my brothers hp omen had matx

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With only one pci and 2 ram slots

fringe wharf May 9, 2020, 7:25 AM

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?

foggy hazel May 9, 2020, 9:26 AM

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@little leaf yes, because its a custom oem board

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if its anything like any of the newer omen mainboards, its a ... silly ... layout, in a overpriced machine :)

hushed cipher May 9, 2020, 10:27 AM

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guys and girls i really need help im getting a gtx 1660 but my power supply doesn't have pci-e power so can i use SATA to 8 pin

subtle halo May 9, 2020, 10:29 AM

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if not then buy new psu

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i dont know about sata to pcie power stuff.. can that supply large current?

hushed cipher May 9, 2020, 10:32 AM

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well from the video i watched the card will pull 75 wats from the place it slots in and then 50 wats from the pci-e power so im not sure

ripe ermine May 9, 2020, 11:00 AM

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Anybody have recommendations for motherboards compatible with Ryzen 7 3700x?

subtle halo May 9, 2020, 11:24 AM

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is that even safe

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on full load

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 11:35 AM

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@am4

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 11:36 AM

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?

granite imp May 9, 2020, 11:48 AM

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@ripe ermine I’ve been very pleased with my Asus B450-F ROG Strix mobo

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AMD

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 11:52 AM

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That's a good board.

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but would need a bios update to accept the 3700x

granite imp May 9, 2020, 11:57 AM

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Mine shows 3000 ready? Am I missing something?

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@sudden turret

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 12:01 PM

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no

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I'm just outdated

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😄

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When I bought mine, they were not 3k ready.

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must have been recently updated and shipped with proper bios

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some of their images still lack it

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cloud drum May 9, 2020, 12:42 PM

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can you mix ram

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like have a 3200 mhz stick and then have a 2400 stick

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 12:44 PM

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it'll down clock the highest ram to match the lowest.

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still do not recommend mis-matching ram.

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 12:45 PM

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ok

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ill just buy the same one gain

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again

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 12:46 PM

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did you get your aio tubing adjusted and the fan flipped?

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 12:46 PM

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oh no

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i got drunk

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and now im too dizzy

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to even conectrate

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 12:47 PM

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welp.

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 12:47 PM

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I dont really have anywhere to move the radiotor

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I tried doing it when i first installed it

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 12:47 PM

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I didn't say remove the radiator

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just need to flip the fan around, so it's pushing air out.

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 12:47 PM

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wym flip

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the fan ontop of the radior?

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 12:48 PM

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yes

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 12:49 PM

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sudden turret May 9, 2020, 12:49 PM

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Yeah..

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make that NZXT sticker be on the radiator side.

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cloud drum May 9, 2020, 12:50 PM

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outside of the case?

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 12:51 PM

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what? no..

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if you flip the fan around.. it will push the air out the back.

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so you end up with better air flow, like this

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cloud drum May 9, 2020, 12:55 PM

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oh ok

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so put the sticker side facing the radiotor

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 12:57 PM

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yes

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sticker side will always be the side air pushes outward.

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 12:58 PM

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oh ok

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im a re re

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still roostBOT May 9, 2020, 1:00 PM

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Tifa#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:00 PM

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is this really hot \

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:01 PM

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yeah that's a bit on the warm side..

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that's at idle?

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why does the fan say N/A

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is it even spinning?

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:02 PM

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yah its spinng

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:03 PM

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if the fan is hooked up to the cam hub, should be reading the RPMs.

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unless you don't have the pump connected.

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:04 PM

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its conected

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:05 PM

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or we in C or F

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:05 PM

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wha

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:05 PM

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Celsius

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:05 PM

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celsius

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yah im gonna fix this fan rn

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even tho im still dizzy

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:06 PM

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it's still a bit on the warm side.. 64c at idle .. something ain't right

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:06 PM

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yah

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:06 PM

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verify pump is 100%

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:06 PM

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i over clocked it too

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:06 PM

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what cpu

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:06 PM

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3600 amd

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ryzen 5

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:06 PM

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it shows it at 4.2ghz

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:06 PM

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yah

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its the max

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it can go u

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up

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:07 PM

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was thermal paste applied

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:07 PM

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yah

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:07 PM

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What header did you connect the pump to

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:08 PM

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uhhhh

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i dont know

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im gonna turn off my rig and fix it

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:09 PM

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good idea.

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make sure the pump is on the cpu fan, or cpu-opt header.

foggy hazel May 9, 2020, 1:10 PM

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Perhaps you should go have a nap and come back when you are actually sober and rested @cloud drum

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:12 PM

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No I'm good

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So what do I need to

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I turned everything off

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:14 PM

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explain how you connected the fan and pump up.

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:15 PM

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So the pump

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I placed the radiator above the GPU and cooler ontop of the CPU and hooked up all the cables onto the mobo

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And screwed in everything

foggy hazel May 9, 2020, 1:17 PM

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details

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and after that, more details

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:17 PM

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I asked where did you connect the pump

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the wires.

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:18 PM

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The pump was already connected

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Oh

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CPU fan 1

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@sudden turret

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:27 PM

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so if its like that.. make sure the block is securely on the cpu, head to bios and remove your overclock. then check the fan settings in bios and make sure cpu fan 1 is at 100%

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sorry I'm getting busy dealing with my kids, it's early morning and they require attention.

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:27 PM

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Ok

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Thank you

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:28 PM

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that the only thing I can think of why it's such a high temp at idle

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either the pump isn't pumping hard enough, or you totally butchered your OC settings.

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or a mix of both.

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lets not give bad advice.

little osprey May 9, 2020, 1:36 PM

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Lol

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Y u gotta ruin the fun

oblique comet May 9, 2020, 1:37 PM

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So, for the case case.

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Cooler Master Q300L

Fractal White Case

Cougar MX330

They all sitting at almost the same price, which one you think would be best to get?

little osprey May 9, 2020, 1:38 PM

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Up to u.

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:38 PM

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which fractal case.

foggy hazel May 9, 2020, 1:39 PM

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<- because he is part of the group that cleans up after people that think something like that is "fun"

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oblique comet May 9, 2020, 1:40 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811553054 Cougar

https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-masterbox-q300l-micro-atx/p/N82E16811119331 Cooler Master

https://www.newegg.com/white-fractal-design-focus-g-series-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352067?Description=case&cm_re=case-_-11-352-067-_-Product Fractal

little osprey May 9, 2020, 1:40 PM

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<- because he is part of the group that cleans up after people that think something like that is "fun"
@foggy hazel proven facts for maximum cooling efficiency

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:41 PM

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Someone who might not know any better, would do just that, crank those scews down and break something.

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save your jokes for #general-chat

foggy hazel May 9, 2020, 1:41 PM

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@little osprey you have been here long enough that you should know that context is very important.

little osprey May 9, 2020, 1:42 PM

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Forgive me senpai

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:42 PM

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I would get the Fractal case, it has the best air flow of the three.

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:42 PM

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How do I check the CPU fan

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On the BIOS

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:42 PM

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well, that Cougar might have it beat actually

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Yeah I'd def go with the Cougar case

little osprey May 9, 2020, 1:43 PM

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Check the fans> elaborate

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:43 PM

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Tifa, what motherboard

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:43 PM

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Msi

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:43 PM

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more info please.

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:43 PM

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📎 IMG_20200509_094343.jpg

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B350m bazooka

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:44 PM

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@oblique comet the cougar has psu shroud, and tempered glass panel, I'd go for that one

little osprey May 9, 2020, 1:44 PM

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What are u tryna check tho? For the fans

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:44 PM

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scroll up

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@cloud drum check in advance tab

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:45 PM

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K

little osprey May 9, 2020, 1:45 PM

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Aio?

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Nvm. I see

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:48 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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📎 unknown.png

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:49 PM

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📎 IMG_20200509_094933.jpg

still roostBOT May 9, 2020, 1:49 PM

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Tifa#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:49 PM

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Disabled

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It said

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:50 PM

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alright

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:51 PM

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📎 IMG_20200509_095046.jpg

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It shows the rpm

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Now

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:51 PM

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good

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looking at the cpu/sys temps

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you're at 33/35c

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whole lot better than 65c

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:52 PM

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Haha

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Yah

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:52 PM

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lets see what you did in Overclocking tab now... 😐

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:52 PM

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📎 IMG_20200509_095224.jpg

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How do you just slightly over clock

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I don't want to mad it out

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:52 PM

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leave it to default

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honestly

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:52 PM

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Oh pk

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Ok

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:53 PM

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and enable A-XMP

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Ok

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Done

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:54 PM

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save/exit

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:54 PM

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Ok let's see if NZXT sees the fan

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:54 PM

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you should see better temps, and as long as you fixed the fan on the radiator, you should be good to go

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and not be idling with high temps.

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Okay

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Big help

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📎 IMG_20200509_095556.jpg

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It's still overclock

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Wth

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:56 PM

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let it sit for a bit

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:56 PM

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I just restart PC

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Rip

cursive wharf May 9, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Also note if default voltage was messed from mobo settings then idle temps can be made much closer to load temps

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So I wouldnt really be looking at idle temps unless load temps overheat it

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Ok

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 1:58 PM

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hei it was 65c at idle

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:58 PM

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I'm back at the BIOS

cursive wharf May 9, 2020, 1:58 PM

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again, messed default voltage on a basic 120mm AIO can do an okay amount

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Esp if fin density on the AIO isnt all that high

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 1:59 PM

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How do you adjust the water cooler settings

cursive wharf May 9, 2020, 2:00 PM

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Idk where exactly, but BIOS has fan speed settings. Change those to change AIO fan/pump RPM

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 2:01 PM

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I believe that was the smart fan setting was for

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cause it showed the temp stepping all being 100%

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for the pump

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 2:01 PM

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It did?

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System fan smart control is disabled

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Soni enabled

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 2:02 PM

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📎 unknown.png

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 2:02 PM

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Do i

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 2:02 PM

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well you said it was disabled at first

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I assumed you enabled it, like you showed in this picture.

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Yah I did

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📎 IMG_20200509_100316.jpg

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What about these ones

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 2:03 PM

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enable

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 2:08 PM

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It still over clock

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What the

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 2:08 PM

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can you try something else to verify that

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and not cam software

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Task manager

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 2:08 PM

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ryzen master, cpu-z

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Says 4.2

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I'll download ryzen master

oblique comet May 9, 2020, 2:22 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-ps-ttp-0600nnfagu-1-600w/p/N82E16817153395?Item=N82E16817153395

600W Gold for 70$ is great, right?

granite imp May 9, 2020, 2:23 PM

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I paid $120 for my 650w gold

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Mine was fully modular tho

oblique comet May 9, 2020, 2:24 PM

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makes sense

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I could get a 500W for 50$ but white

cursive wharf May 9, 2020, 2:41 PM

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@oblique comet Not great, because it's probably a terrible PSU. No real PSU reviews or info in it. Thermaltake doesnt even have a page for it on their site. So cant even get on paper specs let alone actual performance. Please do note that "80+ gold" says nothing about PSU quality, nor does brand, and nor does wattage

silver bolt May 9, 2020, 3:53 PM

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I have 4 slots for ram. Do all 4 sticks have to match? I currently have 2x8gb. If I bought 2 more do I need to be the same ones

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 3:54 PM

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ideally, yes.

oblique comet May 9, 2020, 4:10 PM

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@oblique comet Not great, because it's probably a terrible PSU. No real PSU reviews or info in it. Thermaltake doesnt even have a page for it on their site. So cant even get on paper specs let alone actual performance. Please do note that "80+ gold" says nothing about PSU quality, nor does brand, and nor does wattage
@cursive wharf Thats a bummer because I already paid for it 😦

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 4:12 PM

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oof

oblique comet May 9, 2020, 4:13 PM

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I had a Thermaltake PSU that had a 6 year warranty and it actually worked for more than that, so I chose Thermaltake and I found that one that was gold cert, thought it was a a good bargain

pastel briar May 9, 2020, 4:19 PM

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@oblique comet While I understand you already paid for it, please be careful, I would be cautious about using it, I usually am very weary about using generic labeled PSUs, I call them Chinese IEDs for a reason...

📎 burnt_pc_5.jpg

oblique comet May 9, 2020, 4:20 PM

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I'll try to sell and get another one once I get it

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 4:20 PM

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can't you cancel the order

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if you just placed it

pastel briar May 9, 2020, 4:21 PM

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see if you can cancel the order, usually most places can, especially if you tell them it was a mistake

eager chasm May 9, 2020, 4:37 PM

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80+ gold is an efficiency rating, not a reliability/quality rating

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here is a quality tier list from the pinned messages
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

Linus Tech Tips

[psucultists] PSU Tier List

PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 12.4 welcome to the brand new PSU Tier List! Created and maintained by @DatTestBench, @Stefan Payne, @GreatMasterAden, @Juular, @Elisis, @Maurice from Madagascar and @LukeSavenije Last Update: 12-04-2020 Tiering of various units is opinion based off repu...

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if the wrong corners are cut to get an 80+ gold rating that can make it an extreme hazard

celest horizon May 9, 2020, 4:53 PM

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🧯

pastel briar May 9, 2020, 5:02 PM

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@oblique comet depending on your build a good rule of thumb is to get at least 80+ bronze, some brands I have had good luck with (though most of these are either Tier A or Tier B+ PSUs anyways) are Corsair CX series (if I need something that fits in the budget range but gives me good quality), Silverstone, and currently run a Corsair SF 550W PSU (IIRC its a platinum)

For more on what I am talking about as far as the tier list is concerned (the higher the tier the better Tier S being the top end, and going down (any thing from Tier C or lower just stay away from these please) you can visit https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/ (@eager chasm has also posted the same link)

also reason why I say stay away from the Tier C or lower PSUs (note that any more tiers beyond Tier C they also are being included in the stay away warning). I hope this info help answer your question and sorry for the wall o' text but I figure I might as well help you get the best for your build.

As for any psu decision please make sure you get a quality psu, don’t cheap out or worse don’t get one of the Chinese IEDs

(See picture for the afore mentioned "Chinese IEDs" as they show why you should NOT cheap out on the PSU at all) Sorry for a wall of text but I would rather impart a wall of text that gives you knowledge to use then to let you risk your life, house, family or safety of all mentioned with the Chinese IED.

Linus Tech Tips

[psucultists] PSU Tier List

PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 12.4 welcome to the brand new PSU Tier List! Created and maintained by @DatTestBench, @Stefan Payne, @GreatMasterAden, @Juular, @Elisis, @Maurice from Madagascar and @LukeSavenije Last Update: 12-04-2020 Tiering of various units is opinion based off repu...

stoic island May 9, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Where's da IED pic

pastel briar May 9, 2020, 5:03 PM

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scroll up some

stoic island May 9, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Aye

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Just woke

pastel briar May 9, 2020, 5:03 PM

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hence "the affore mentioned picture" bit

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fair enough

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Do AMD cards overheat

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 5:07 PM

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that's a loaded question..

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lol

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 5:13 PM

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is that the same with cpu too

stoic island May 9, 2020, 5:18 PM

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@cloud drum the temp of the component depends on what's being used to cool it

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Generally, AMD CPUs are actually cooler as they usually draw less power.

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The reason why AMD has a bad reputation for their GPUs overheating is due to them making bad blower reference card designs.

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For example, this was the cooler for the Vega 64, an extremely hot card due to its high power draw.
https://www.custompcreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/amd-rx-vega-64-siggraph-techday-slide-deck-30.jpg

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 5:38 PM

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OH I C

fringe wharf May 9, 2020, 5:38 PM

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how can i tell what size a motherboard is

stoic island May 9, 2020, 5:53 PM

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@fringe wharf like a product page or from an image

cold sorrel May 9, 2020, 5:55 PM

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I'm actually glad I decided to wait on buying the rest of my parts... I really like what I'm hearing about the AMD B550 boards. Maybe I'll actually be able to make the room in budget for a 2060 Super after all.

stoic island May 9, 2020, 5:58 PM

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@cloud drum but that's just the reference design, AIB partners usually make better coolers like this one for ROG strix Vega 64
http://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/ASUS-ROG-STRIX-RX-Vega-64-Graphics-Card.jpg

modern shadow May 9, 2020, 6:02 PM

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is the rx 570 8gb going to be a visual improvment over the gtx 1650 non-super?

oblique comet May 9, 2020, 6:05 PM

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I hate chinese people

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No offense to any chinese in this group

pastel briar May 9, 2020, 6:05 PM

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@fringe wharf look on the specs where it will give "form factor" typically

stoic island May 9, 2020, 6:05 PM

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@modern shadow meh, doesn't seem like it
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/Radeon-RX-570-vs-GeForce-GTX-1650/3741vs4078

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I trust passmark over UB

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@oblique comet why such a random comment?

oblique comet May 9, 2020, 6:06 PM

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coming from the whole gold thermaltake PSU thingy

pastel briar May 9, 2020, 6:06 PM

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@fringe wharf This should help you out some as well

📎 220px-ATX_ITX_AT_Motherboard_Compatible_Dimensions.png

stoic island May 9, 2020, 6:06 PM

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@pastel briar it's hard to tell irl, so :p

pastel briar May 9, 2020, 6:07 PM

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@stoic island well that is why I provided that picture to better assist....

stoic island May 9, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Though proportions are good to know

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I mean in relation to the size of say a case

pastel briar May 9, 2020, 6:09 PM

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well look at it like this, if you knew nothing of computers and I said "get an ATX" case and "ATX mother board" would you be able to tell me how many holes are going to line up? probably not, at least this way I can at least give you a visual guide so if say you receive a mini itx board by accident, you can know that, remember its about making sure anyone who asks questions here is able to gain the knowledge they are seeking....I could just simply give you the answer but would that ultimately help if you were on your own needing to figure out the same situation that I originally gave you the answer for?

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@fringe wharf Some more knowledge drop on you, to help you out, and hopefully allow you to make more sense of what I am giving you

📎 zVpnHEP_pPvIT56e_OWWvwawE_ChoQvmLDotaoJbDRM.png

stoic island May 9, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Usually, the reason for asking about different sizes of boards is to distinguish the size of boards in indistinguishable prebuilts, so that's what I'm gearing my information towards.

fringe wharf May 9, 2020, 6:26 PM

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ooo thx for all the info. I was wondering because i wanted to know what size case to look for

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but i think i got it now

obsidian basin May 9, 2020, 6:27 PM

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How many case fans do I need??

fast dust May 9, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Depends on your internal components, your case, how much temperature your components make, etc

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Usually for a mid range build 2-3 case fans (plus the cpu can of course) is okay imo.
For high end I like to go with 5.
That’s just my opinion though

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@obsidian basin

obsidian basin May 9, 2020, 6:30 PM

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I was thinking 3 front 1 rear 2 top?

stoic island May 9, 2020, 6:30 PM

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3 is standard in normal cases

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Depends on how many your case can hold @obsidian basin

granite imp May 9, 2020, 6:44 PM

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@obsidian basin what cpu and gpu are you putting in your build?

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my case came with 3 front and 1 rear. I'm adding 2 to the top, so just what you're thinking. honestly my temps are just fine as is, but I'm doing it anyway.

spice shore May 9, 2020, 6:49 PM

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could someone help me out because im gonna be building for the first time and i have around 700 and a good monitor and im hoping to build a gaming pc that has 1080p and medium settings with 90+ fps

fast dust May 9, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Easy peasy

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My build gets usually better than that and mine was like $650

spice shore May 9, 2020, 6:50 PM

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ok can u help me out

fast dust May 9, 2020, 6:50 PM

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I can’t make a part list right now though...

glass swift May 9, 2020, 6:50 PM

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hey guys, just wanted to pop a link down here,

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https://www.newegg.com/white-fractal-design-focus-g-series-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352067?Item=N82E16811352067

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fractal G case on sale

spice shore May 9, 2020, 6:51 PM

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@fast dust dang

fast dust May 9, 2020, 6:51 PM

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@spice shore I don’t think I’ll be able to design one for a while sorry. Someone else would be happy to help

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@stoic island usually has a bunch of part lists at different price points though

glass swift May 9, 2020, 6:52 PM

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@spice shore i'd be happy to give it a whirl

stoic island May 9, 2020, 6:52 PM

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What

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I had a 600$ list one sec

fast dust May 9, 2020, 6:52 PM

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He’s looking for a $700 pc

stoic island May 9, 2020, 6:53 PM

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Things might be OOS so I'm gonna edit off this list
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GMJbf9

System Builder

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Damn I had a 3000g in that gotta change it lmao

wary tundra May 9, 2020, 6:54 PM

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@upper fable I cant ask in build pics, but what are your specs?

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 6:54 PM

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specs

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are as followed

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Red, Red, REd, and Red.

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😄

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and a gundam

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that's probably red.

wary tundra May 9, 2020, 6:55 PM

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a little bit of blue

granite imp May 9, 2020, 6:55 PM

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I did see a hint of red in there...

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looked like it could have been some rgb lighting. but couldn't really tell.

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too much glam.

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no glitz.

spice shore May 9, 2020, 6:56 PM

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so @glass swift just tell me when u do a list

granite imp May 9, 2020, 6:56 PM

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tk

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i got a list for you

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just put a build together earlier

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came out just under 700

stoic island May 9, 2020, 6:57 PM

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This is fairly good
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LmDwXv

System Builder

glass swift May 9, 2020, 6:57 PM

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I think this would hit the whole request

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MHGkPn

System Builder

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@spice shore

upper fable May 9, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Zoid and solid snake thank you very much, Nothing crazy
mobo: ASRock 570 Extreme 4
CPU: ryzen 5 3600x
Ram: Geil 16gb 3200
PSU: thermaltake 750 full modular RGB
Case: Cougar Conquer custom painted
Weakest is GPU: 1060 6gb
@wary tundra

stoic island May 9, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Take out the CPU cooler and my list goes under 700$

wary tundra May 9, 2020, 6:57 PM

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rgb psu

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my man Yes

stoic island May 9, 2020, 6:58 PM

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@glass swift a55 isn't a good ssd

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Also that comes out to 750$..

glass swift May 9, 2020, 6:59 PM

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knock 20 off of the case cuz its on sale

wary tundra May 9, 2020, 6:59 PM

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I want to try

spice shore May 9, 2020, 6:59 PM

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@glass swift thanks

stoic island May 9, 2020, 7:00 PM

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This is under 700$.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CTMFrV

System Builder

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@spice shore

wary tundra May 9, 2020, 7:11 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8rckPn I wanted to try to make a list using the new 3300x for around $700

System Builder

vagrant gulch May 9, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Just wanted to ask does anyone else have this type of problem with the ATXPWR1 with their PSU? Can I just leave it or do I have to plug it in cause it won't fully go in.

📎 JPEG_20200509_151127.jpg

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 7:22 PM

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im sure you can leave it

vagrant gulch May 9, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Alright, thanks.

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 7:25 PM

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thats the 24 pin connector right?

vagrant gulch May 9, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Yea

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The other 20 is connected, just the other 4 won't fit in.

fast dust May 9, 2020, 7:27 PM

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Try it without the 4 pin. If it works, cool. If not, then you’ll have to put it in

silk estuary May 9, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Anyone got any recommendations for a wifi card/wifi USB adapter?

fast dust May 9, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Oh I use one of those hold on lemme get the link

dire finch May 9, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Same

fast dust May 9, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Wireless USB WiFi Adapter for PC - 802.11AC 1200Mbps Dual 5Dbi Antennas 5G/2.4G WiFi USB for PC Desktop Laptop MAC Windows 10/8/8.1/7/Vista/XP/Mac10.6/10.13, WiFi USB Computer Network Adapters https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07V4R3QHW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_LtWTEbGE21DC2

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Here’s the one I use. It’s nice and fast and I’ve had no problems

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Its also plug and play

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If you’re on windows

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Make sure it goes in a USB 3.0 port or better though

vagrant gulch May 9, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Seems like it's doing fine. Thanks guys.

dire finch May 9, 2020, 7:33 PM

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I need to get a power over ethernet adapter for my pc. Rn with my wifi I am getting 500 kb

fast dust May 9, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Yikessss

dire finch May 9, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Until I can run a ether etc cable down to the router

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Ethernet*

fast dust May 9, 2020, 7:34 PM

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@silk estuary would that one work?

silk estuary May 9, 2020, 7:34 PM

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@fast dust that's great, thank you

fast dust May 9, 2020, 7:35 PM

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No problem man

silk estuary May 9, 2020, 7:35 PM

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I'll get that for now and if i want I'll get a wifi card for a pcie x1

fast dust May 9, 2020, 7:35 PM

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I think PCIe cards are ugly. That’s why I got USB. Do whatever you want tho

dire finch May 9, 2020, 7:36 PM

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I'm glad I upgraded from a 570 to a 2070 cause on my 2nd pc I was using a 670 4gb

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Rx 570

fast dust May 9, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Dang that’s a massive upgrade

dire finch May 9, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Yeah it has been a great upgrade

fast dust May 9, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Good for you dude

little osprey May 9, 2020, 9:03 PM

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i might be buying a used 570 untill ampere comes

fast dust May 9, 2020, 9:03 PM

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Used parts for the win!

little osprey May 9, 2020, 9:03 PM

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they are like 50 bucks used lol

silk estuary May 9, 2020, 9:04 PM

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I'm buying a used mobo, so yes, used parts ftw

fast dust May 9, 2020, 9:04 PM

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WHAT!

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Used RX 570 for $50?!

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Howwwwwww

little osprey May 9, 2020, 9:04 PM

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im also debating wether its worth risking a used 2700, instead of grtting the 3700

fast dust May 9, 2020, 9:04 PM

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The best deal I can get on a used 570 right now is $80

little osprey May 9, 2020, 9:04 PM

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80 for me too technically, but thats CAD

fast dust May 9, 2020, 9:05 PM

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canada...

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I better move there

little osprey May 9, 2020, 9:05 PM

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im sure you could fine em for 60 in the states, haggle down to 50

fast dust May 9, 2020, 9:06 PM

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I’ve been looking for like 2 weeks 200Sad

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Only bought one for $80 cause that’s the best I could get

little osprey May 9, 2020, 9:06 PM

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i am in the city so that helps i guess

fast dust May 9, 2020, 9:06 PM

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I’m in a city too but Facebook marketplace keeps being dumb so I’m forced to use eBay

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That might be why though...

little osprey May 9, 2020, 9:07 PM

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2700s are also going for 200

fast dust May 9, 2020, 9:07 PM

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Ryzen 2700s?

little osprey May 9, 2020, 9:07 PM

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yeah

fast dust May 9, 2020, 9:08 PM

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I bought one new not too long ago for something like that

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But the was before the virus...

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🦠

little osprey May 9, 2020, 9:08 PM

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new?

fast dust May 9, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Yep

little osprey May 9, 2020, 9:08 PM

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ah nice

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perfect time to buy them then

fast dust May 9, 2020, 9:08 PM

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I don’t remember exactly though. It was maybe 4 months ago

little osprey May 9, 2020, 9:09 PM

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atm here the 2000 series cost more then 3000 xD

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i dunno if its just stock issues, or if canadian supply of them is just done

silk estuary May 9, 2020, 9:09 PM

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I bought a 3800x for i think 300?

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338

little osprey May 9, 2020, 9:11 PM

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how high do 3800s go anyway?

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clocks

silk estuary May 9, 2020, 9:12 PM

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4.5

little osprey May 9, 2020, 9:13 PM

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oh damn not bad at all for ryzen

stoic island May 9, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Base Clock 3.9GHz
Max Boost Clock Up to 4.5GHz

little osprey May 9, 2020, 9:13 PM

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oh i meant all cores manually

stoic island May 9, 2020, 9:14 PM

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depends on your chip

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All core manual is Ocing so

little osprey May 9, 2020, 9:15 PM

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i almost ordered my build cause this msi b450 came up, sold out instantly tho lol

stoic island May 9, 2020, 9:16 PM

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wait for tuf b450m pro

little osprey May 9, 2020, 9:17 PM

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i know yall love the tuf but unless its on sale its almost as much as the p50 on x570 here

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180 vs 200

silk estuary May 9, 2020, 9:18 PM

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I just got myself a great condition asrock extreme4

little osprey May 9, 2020, 9:18 PM

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209*

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the only thing decently available consistsntly here is the asrock pro4

upper fable May 9, 2020, 9:19 PM

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ayyyy I love my extreme 4

silk estuary May 9, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Niiiice

little osprey May 9, 2020, 9:19 PM

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so im waiting for restocking

silk estuary May 9, 2020, 9:19 PM

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I'm getting good stuff for jr

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*it

upper fable May 9, 2020, 9:19 PM

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watcha getting

silk estuary May 9, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Also YEAH getting things in stock rn sucks

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Hold up

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📎 Screenshot_20200509-124624.png

little osprey May 9, 2020, 9:20 PM

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hopefully when its restockedit wont dwindle in 2 days lol

upper fable May 9, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Aren't power supplies getting hard to get still?

silk estuary May 9, 2020, 9:20 PM

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I snagged mine of newegg

upper fable May 9, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Damn some sick stuff

silk estuary May 9, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Yuhh

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Gonna get a 2060 KO Ultra tho

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If i really want a better one later on I'll get it when prices dip when the new gpus come out

little osprey May 9, 2020, 9:21 PM

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or you could go without rgb and get a 2080 lol

upper fable May 9, 2020, 9:21 PM

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I'm still waiting on upgrading my card, I want to see what amd has to offer

stoic island May 9, 2020, 9:21 PM

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x570-p is good

silk estuary May 9, 2020, 9:22 PM

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I'm not gonna spend 650 on a gpu rn

stoic island May 9, 2020, 9:22 PM

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2070s is good

upper fable May 9, 2020, 9:23 PM

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I don't blame you

little osprey May 9, 2020, 9:23 PM

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yeah buying a pricey gpu at the end of its life cycle, not for me

upper fable May 9, 2020, 9:23 PM

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^

silk estuary May 9, 2020, 9:23 PM

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What?

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How do you mean life cycle?

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Like, before the next gen comes out?

little osprey May 9, 2020, 9:24 PM

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turing willbe outdated soon, ampere is coming

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its been 2 years or something since it came out

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and it may be a huge jump considering consoles are beast mode

pastel briar May 9, 2020, 9:27 PM

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yup and consoles will hopefully play the whole we got to pass up PC again game, and keep driving hardware and game development for the better 😄

little osprey May 9, 2020, 9:27 PM

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consoles even get ray tracing, turing will become known for having pretty bad ray tracing

pastel briar May 9, 2020, 9:27 PM

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and as for buying a high price GPU at close to EOL yea I will wait until the new stuff comes out and I can get the GPU at reduced cost....

little osprey May 9, 2020, 9:28 PM

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that too

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im still deciding whether i get my platform now with a used 570, or just wait altogether

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ryzen 3700 sounds pretty safe to me tho

paper magnet May 9, 2020, 10:00 PM

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wanted to thank @sudden turret and @foggy hazel again for all their help a few days ago on my first build and being highly patient with me. Computer has been running so smoothly the last few days, got my rgb splitter cable to synch up all my lights yesterday and will in the next few days install it in, just to sore from work to do it now.

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 10:02 PM

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yes! 🙂

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post a picture in #build-pics to show off all your hardwork

buoyant flame May 9, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Ya please do that tupb

paper magnet May 9, 2020, 10:13 PM

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i will when i get the cord set up and all the lights match up

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my OCD brain cant stand not being able to control the lights on the front panel

modern shadow May 9, 2020, 10:47 PM

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is it worth it to buy a cooler to oc a ryxen 5 1600AF?

midnight pelican May 9, 2020, 10:49 PM

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uh

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what cooler

lyric thistle May 9, 2020, 10:49 PM

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AMD stock cooler from 2010

midnight pelican May 9, 2020, 10:49 PM

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ur an amd stock cooler

lyric thistle May 9, 2020, 10:50 PM

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UwU

sullen spoke May 9, 2020, 11:20 PM

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owo

modern shadow May 9, 2020, 11:24 PM

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like a low to mid end air cooler

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@midnight pelican

thorny bronze May 9, 2020, 11:34 PM

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whats the best 3200mhz ram

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budget please

little osprey May 9, 2020, 11:36 PM

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g skill aegis or ripjaw usually, get a cl 16

thorny bronze May 9, 2020, 11:36 PM

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ok thats what i thought

little osprey May 9, 2020, 11:37 PM

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sometimes the corsair ones go on sale

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 11:41 PM

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i got a new psu

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replacing my old one

sudden turret May 9, 2020, 11:45 PM

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ohboy

cloud drum May 9, 2020, 11:50 PM

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I feel like im going to forget what i had

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pluged in

granite imp May 10, 2020, 12:02 AM

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need halp.

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dual monitors. window on main monitor minimized when clicking over on the second monitor. anyone know how to stop that?

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nevermind. fixed it

sudden turret May 10, 2020, 12:05 AM

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use one monitor

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NO

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TO LATE

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TOSS THE OTHER ONE

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NYEHE

granite imp May 10, 2020, 12:06 AM

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roger.

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shoving out second story window now.

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BEGONE DEMON SCREEN

cloud drum May 10, 2020, 12:11 AM

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There's no SATA cables

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That didn't come with my PSU

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Only pcie

little osprey May 10, 2020, 12:13 AM

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there is a cx 550 being sold for.... $9,999 xD

oblique comet May 10, 2020, 12:39 AM

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whats the best 3200mhz ram
@thorny bronze TeamGroup on newegg Vulcan 3200mhz cl16 for 60$

cold sorrel May 10, 2020, 1:32 AM

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You know, I am kind of glad now I got forced to wait on buying most of my build. I'm thinking of definitely getting a b550 board once they release instead of the more expensive x570.

vague crystal May 10, 2020, 1:34 AM

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hey uh

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anyone know a good build for €900

potent prairie May 10, 2020, 1:45 AM

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One that I think naed made for me: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rBKgHB

For $1000 which is a bit over 900 euros

System Builder

wheat stratus May 10, 2020, 1:56 AM

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What would be a nice looking case with good air flow under $80 USD?

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:00 AM

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try corsair carbide 275r airflow edition

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pretty good budget case

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@wheat stratus

wheat stratus May 10, 2020, 2:01 AM

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thanks

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:02 AM

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ive heard the gaming plus is just like the tomahawk?

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:04 AM

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no rgb support, probably slightly worse vrms

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good board if you don't care about rgb, but get the MAX edition

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:05 AM

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ah, yeah its the max

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:05 AM

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be aware that b450 won't be officially supported for ryzen 4000

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there are probably other differences i'm missing but it's definitely a fine board

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:06 AM

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well it's for a 3700, choices are that for 160 or asrock for 120

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:06 AM

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160?!

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what currency is this

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aud?

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:07 AM

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canadian

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were similar to aus, a bit less

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:07 AM

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gaming plus max is 150 cad

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jeez

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rip cad

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:08 AM

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i dont plan on overclocking though, maybe asrock would make more sense

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:08 AM

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do you plan on upgrading to ryzen 4000

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:08 AM

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no

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:08 AM

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or sticking with your 3700x for a while

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:08 AM

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as long as possible

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:08 AM

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for a 3700x i don't think i would cheap out on the bottom tier boards

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gaming plus max should be fine

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:08 AM

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yeah

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the msi ones show up and disapear frequently

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:09 AM

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i have a tomahawk max myself

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don't spend 160 for it, canada computers has it for 150

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/BHBhP6/msi-b450-gaming-plus-max-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-gaming-plus-max

MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:10 AM

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yeah i saw that.. but if getting it all from newegg totals an extra 40 in the end, worth it for me

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GIGABYTE B450M DS3H picked this board up and a ryzen 5 3600 for my in-laws new pc build, lol no gaming happening on the pc just a web browser and picture storage. will toss one of my old GPUs in it 950

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:11 AM

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sounds like you could have saved a lot of money going athlon 3000g / r3 1200 + a320 board

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Wanted mid range at least

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:11 AM

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for web browsing and picture storage?

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:11 AM

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ivealso been thinking of a used 2700 instead

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:11 AM

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are you gaming or what

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workstation tasks?

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:12 AM

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yeah just gaming

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:12 AM

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2700x loses to a 3600 for gaming

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:12 AM

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well prob will do other things im sure on. mymother in law does ancestry and some normal workstation stuff

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nvenc for streams

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i dont plan on buying any top tier gpus though

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:12 AM

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3600 is fine for all games at the moment

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you could buy a 3600 now and in a few years buy a cheap used 3700x

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:12 AM

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i just eant to be stutter free as long as possible

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:13 AM

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whats your gpu?

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:13 AM

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im waiting for next gen, but 3060 type tier

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:13 AM

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3600 holds up fine with a 2080ti at 1080p ultra tbh

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:13 AM

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ima buy a used 570 for now lol

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:14 AM

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so if you're looking to save money just go 3600 and buy a 3700x later on

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once games start really utilizing those 16 threads

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you can sell the 3600 down the line

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:14 AM

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i know for a fact they will though, and considering that i rather just get it now

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my one major stipulation is 8 core im not budging lol

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:15 AM

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honestly if you're only going for a 3060 i doubt the 3600 will have much of an issue keeping up in future games either

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fair enough

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:16 AM

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perhaps, but if not then il get a higher tier card in the future to pair with the 3700

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:16 AM

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should go 3700x then cause 2700x loses to 3600 firmly

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i did some research when i was building cause i noticed 2700x was really cheap

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:16 AM

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yeah 200 vs 440 bucks tho is a pretty bad deal lol

sudden turret May 10, 2020, 2:16 AM

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3700x so good

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:17 AM

#

zen 2 is just way better than zen+ even if its 6 cores vs 8

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12nm down to 7nm

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nice ipc improvements

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:17 AM

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also having the pins on the cpus sketches me out with used a bit

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although ive bent then back into place with sucess before lol

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:18 AM

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i dont know how well a 2700x would keep up with a 3060

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i imagine it would be ok

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im going to assume a 3060 is going to be similar in performance to a 2070

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:19 AM

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in non ray traced yeah, in ray tracing quite a bit better though

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:19 AM

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but i think you'll start seeing problems if you decide further down the line that you want higher than a 3060

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yeah thats true cpu kinda goes out the window if you turn on rt

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:19 AM

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yeah exactly, i like to get one gpu upgrade in my build if possible

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before changing platform

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:20 AM

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how cheap can you get a 2700x

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they are 150 usd new here i believe

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:20 AM

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200 used, vs 440 for a new 3700

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:21 AM

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hmm

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200 is not that cheap

#

a new 3600 is 260 cad

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:21 AM

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yeah

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:21 AM

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3700x is listed for 428 on pcpartpicker

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idk i dont think just strictly looking at core count is that important, from what i've seen the 3600 even beats the 2700x in many workstation tasks let alone gaming

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:22 AM

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do think a 3700 would last me a second gpu though? i dont typically buy a new part for only 20% gain or something

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:22 AM

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6 better cores vs 8 worse cores

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oh for sure

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a 3700x will be a fantastic processor for the next 5 years at least i think

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maybe less fantastic after 3 years or so

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but still competent

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:23 AM

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my thinking is that console gets 8, if i get six i will see stutter, im very sensitive to it it seems

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:23 AM

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well sure but console is using zen 2 cores too

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:25 AM

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i dont expect them to be crazy faster than 3000 series while in console form, im mostly worried about GPUs, which is way im getting a 570 placeholder lol

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:26 AM

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if you're firm on getting a 3060 then 2700x should be fine

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if you end up deciding you want a 3080 then it'd probably be a little less fine

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:27 AM

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if its less fine on a 2700 wouldnt it also be less then perfect on a 3700?

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:27 AM

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nah a 3700x vs a 2700x is a very very large gap lol

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:28 AM

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cause yeah my thinking was like get a used high end card eventually, or whatever the mid tier is in a few years from now

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:28 AM

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ok not THAT large

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but

#

its definitely significant

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3700x is gonna be like 20% better in both gaming and productivity

#

it's also easier to cool so if you get a decent cooler you might be able to push higher clocks with pbo

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105w tdp on 2700x vs 65w tdp on 3700x

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:30 AM

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odc about overclocks really, 3700 isnt that great at it anyway to my knowledge

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:30 AM

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pbo is automatic boosting algorithm

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just turn it on and forget about it

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free performance

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:31 AM

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oh i see what you mean

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 2:31 AM

#

i believe 2700x doesnt have pbo

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:31 AM

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im so tempted to make it a relativley silent noctua build... lol

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so is pbo effected by motherboard vrms too?

eager chasm May 10, 2020, 2:37 AM

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PBO is a 3rd gen Ryzen feature

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but can still be used on a 400 series board

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the 3700X will perform much better at a much lower power consumption than a 2700X

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:44 AM

#

but will lower mobo temps also mean higher clocks? or is it just taking the chip into consideration

analog hearth May 10, 2020, 2:44 AM

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not exactly

#

but overall, yes

celest horizon May 10, 2020, 2:51 AM

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Just run zen2 at default unless you're a tryhard who competes for imaginary internet points

little osprey May 10, 2020, 2:52 AM

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i always got coolers for silence not performance anyway lol

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now i get both in one

#

should i learn how to clock memory timings?

eager chasm May 10, 2020, 3:15 AM

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no need, usually you turn on XMP which is (usually) the default rated setting for a given ram stick and let it go to town

#

The stock Wraith Prism cooler is pretty quiet

#

it does the job well unless you are doing something insane with the CPU

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and it's quite possibly the coolest looking cooler ever made

cloud drum May 10, 2020, 3:45 AM

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how come this 24 pin connector wont come out

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its so tight

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same with the cpu 8 pin connector

lyric thistle May 10, 2020, 3:46 AM

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the clamp

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make sure it clears

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and it should be a bit tough to pull out

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not like pulling a refrigerator with one finger tough

cursive wharf May 10, 2020, 3:48 AM

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but like pulling a refrigerator with 2.5 finger

floral gale May 10, 2020, 3:49 AM

#

hi guys
which mainboard is good for amd ryzen 9 3900x ?

lyric thistle May 10, 2020, 3:51 AM

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oh ok

eager chasm May 10, 2020, 3:54 AM

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most boards B450 and up can use the 3900X, but i would suggest looking at X470 or X570

floral gale May 10, 2020, 4:25 AM

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i thinking about this

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but no where have it

little leaf May 10, 2020, 4:44 AM

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any good mobos for a 600 dollar am4 build?

pastel briar May 10, 2020, 4:50 AM

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If you can find it the Gigabyte X470 Gaming 7 Wi-fi is a good one

little leaf May 10, 2020, 4:51 AM

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its 110?

pastel briar May 10, 2020, 4:53 AM

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it varies in price but will avrage around that price point, its more or less the all dancing and all singing board, and has 10+2 VRMs

floral gale May 10, 2020, 4:53 AM

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i thinking about MSI MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI Gaming Motherboard AMD AM4 SATA 6Gb/s M.2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 Wi-Fi 6 HDMI ATX

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but no where have it now 😦

little leaf May 10, 2020, 4:56 AM

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x570 a pro?

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for you maybe need more luck

noble rover May 10, 2020, 4:56 AM

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You should wait for The Asus TUF gaming X570 Plus wifi when it’s back in stock

floral gale May 10, 2020, 4:56 AM

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:))

stoic island May 10, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Or MSI x570 tomahawk

sudden solstice May 10, 2020, 5:15 AM

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yo i had a question about a case im going to buy "Thermal take V200 TG RGB" im wondering if the fan cords are separate or all together, need to know if i need to buy an extension cord becuz my motherboard only has 2 fan slots

lime forge May 10, 2020, 5:20 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/deepcool-fh-04-black/p/1W8-00JK-00026?Description=deepcool fh7&cm_re=deepcool_fh7-_-1W8-00JK-00026-_-Product&quicklink=true

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cheap

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id just get that

wide sparrow May 10, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Problem solved

sudden solstice May 10, 2020, 5:26 AM

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@lime forge

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BWFT253/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=AMGCM6C9XYDRR&psc=1

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was thinkin about getting that one lol

lime forge May 10, 2020, 5:26 AM

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ive bought a couple of the deepcool ones i linked

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never heard of the brand you put, but

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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they probably both work.

#

deepcool one comes with a sticky thing on the back so you can stick it to a side of your case

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for management

sudden solstice May 10, 2020, 5:27 AM

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would there be such thing as a bad fan power supply cable

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o nice

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the side ?

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like its showing ?

lime forge May 10, 2020, 5:28 AM

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inside

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yea

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just somewhere on the inside

sudden solstice May 10, 2020, 5:28 AM

#

o

lime forge May 10, 2020, 5:28 AM

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so its not floating around your case

sudden solstice May 10, 2020, 5:28 AM

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yeah i see okay thnx so either would work

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but by any chance do u know about the case ?

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or could u see ya know

lime forge May 10, 2020, 5:29 AM

#

what?

sudden solstice May 10, 2020, 5:29 AM

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here

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FL1D5RV/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

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are than fan cords seperate

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or will i even need that cord

little osprey May 10, 2020, 5:43 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2MvdYH

System Builder

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Lmk how it is

#

Budget pc for my starting pc

stoic island May 10, 2020, 5:47 AM

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Too lazy to check for PSU, but that PSU bad iirc. Ram is a bit overpriced, SSD is bad as it is dramless.

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Silicon power A80 256gb should be nice ssd

little osprey May 10, 2020, 5:50 AM

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Can u link a cheaper ram

stoic island May 10, 2020, 5:53 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232884?Item=N82E16820232884&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2FmcH8TW%2Fgskill-aegis-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-16gis&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-7BWusZTjOfSAbU1xib4yxw

wary tundra May 10, 2020, 6:25 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8hvdYH My friend requires excessive white build, I give excessive white build

System Builder

#

you could get so much more performance but he said white

little leaf May 10, 2020, 7:38 AM

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Need a 600 dollar build

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Was thinking 3100or 3300x and 1650 with 16gigs of tforce ram

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But need help picking a cheaper mobo and psu and case

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For case i might go with phantek p300

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Maybe something like this but need help cutting corners in some places https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ wasnt sure what mobo to use so I threw the tomahawk in

System Builder

rough hawk May 10, 2020, 8:05 AM

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I think you meant to send a different link, that one is just the default link to lists

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:07 AM

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probably just not familiar with pcpartpicker

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and copy/pasted the address bar

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:08 AM

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Nah sorry bout that one

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Im on my phone didnt copy full link

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@earnest olive https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bYjBdm

System Builder

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Also its 1am and im kinda not in it

rough hawk May 10, 2020, 8:12 AM

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You could switch the 1tb hdd out for the 2tb Seagate hdd, it won't save you much but it's more storage for less money

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:13 AM

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The person im making this for doesnt need 2.2tb of storage

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:13 AM

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well they are trying to cut corners not expand

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that is a really expensive 1tb hdd though

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and its only 5400rpm

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:13 AM

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Its hybrid

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Oh wait is it

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Im so tired im sorry

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:13 AM

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maybe cut the ssd then lol

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thats double the cost of a normal 1tb 7200rpm

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u could either go cheap ssd + cheap 1 tb

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or cut the ssd and go this hybrid drive... ive never used a hybrid drive before dunno how they perform

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:14 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ynfnJb

System Builder

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:17 AM

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u want to keep it strictly under $600?

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as a tomahawk max owner, buying it is only worth it if they're planning to upgrade to a 3700x+ later on tbh

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b450 apparently will not support ryzen 4000

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tomahawk max is kinda overkill for this budget i think

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consider downsizing that to gaming plus max if you want to stay with a pretty good board, but a 3100 should be fine on a cheap bottom tier board tbh

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a 3100 is not going to be the hardest chip to run

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:20 AM

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@earnest olive gettinng 20 dollars off the ram from a friend so its fine

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My other friend is fine paying the bit more but not too much

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:20 AM

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imo downside a few things and up the gpu to a 1650 super

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let me put a list together

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:21 AM

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Ye

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But the oced on has higher clocks

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:21 AM

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none of these components require insane power delivery/vrm quality/whatever to run, so you'll get more performance by squeezing as much gpu budget as possible

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assuming this is for gaming

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i dont think a 3100 would be considered for workstation

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:23 AM

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Ye just want better upgradable paths

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:23 AM

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considering the case has only one fan and you'll be using stock cooler, i think adding one case fan is worth the money

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:23 AM

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Ye

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I got that covered already

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:24 AM

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oh you want this to be upgradable

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then probably downsize gpu all the way to a used rx 580 for now

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if you want it to be upgradable you're gonna want a much better psu

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ram could definitely be better

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though if you're getting it for $40 it's hard to argue

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actually

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let me take a look first before i say this

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psu prices are moving rn so its hard to say

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:25 AM

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Ye

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:26 AM

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i assume 660 is a little too far out of budget

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do you already have the case fan?

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:27 AM

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Ye

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Ye

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:27 AM

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cause this is including a $14 case fan

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ok ill delete that

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644.89?

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too much?

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:27 AM

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Thats fine but if it lowers thatd be better

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:28 AM

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hm

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the psu eats up a lot of the budget but its a quality modular 650w gold psu with a 7 year warranty

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LNddYH

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this is what im looking at right now

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:29 AM

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Ok looks good

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:30 AM

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like honestly the psu and mobo are a bit way too much for the current build but they will handle a fat upgrade very nicely

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:30 AM

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Ye

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:30 AM

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the psu should be enough for a 3950x+3080ti

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:30 AM

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I think if he ever needs it he can upgrade it

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:30 AM

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and the mobo vrms are good enough for a 3950x

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if ddr4 is cheaper in a few years could pick up discounted 3600mhz ddr4

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cause ddr5 coming

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but ddr5 will need some time to mature probably so we'll see

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:31 AM

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Or you could get 4000mhz kits

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:32 AM

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not really worth

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you have to decouple the infinity fabric for that

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how far the infinity fabric can oc is based on silicon lottery i believe, but for the most part its 1867-1900mhz

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i run mine at 1867mhz with my ram at 3733mhz to maintain coupled mode

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:33 AM

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I dont got much experience with amd

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I’ve mostly gone intep

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Intel

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:33 AM

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i can see that

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but yeah, for ryzen you want to target 3600-3733mhz ram

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:34 AM

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My head is slowly getting more and more drowsy

cursive wharf May 10, 2020, 8:34 AM

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For Zen2, not Ryzen as a whole

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:34 AM

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ah yeah

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well hes talking about 3rd gen parts

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but i guess its still good to say that

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thoughts on the list btw? second opinions are good

cursive wharf May 10, 2020, 8:35 AM

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Anyways I'd change a few things for that build a little bit ago

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:35 AM

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he wants to potentially upgrade it to a higher end zen 2

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so i put way more budget into the mobo and psu than necessary for now

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the case is pretty whatever but its already over budget

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i dont think this ssd has cache/dram either

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:36 AM

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Ah does it not

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:37 AM

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i think at this budget its ok

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:37 AM

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Didnt look much into if it has dram

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:37 AM

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its annoyingly difficult to figure out if some of these ssds have or not

cursive wharf May 10, 2020, 8:38 AM

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Also wow, that RAM deal

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:38 AM

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given the budget and constraints i think this list is the best i can come up with

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but hei is a smart guy he might have different things to say

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:41 AM

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@earnest olive think it has dram

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Max sequential write 50bs

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:41 AM

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if it has dram thats a really sweet price

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:41 AM

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And pny pretty trust worthy pretty sure

cursive wharf May 10, 2020, 8:41 AM

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nay, it does not

still roostBOT May 10, 2020, 8:41 AM

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earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:42 AM

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kaishrug

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:42 AM

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Ahhhh

cursive wharf May 10, 2020, 8:43 AM

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250gb: $39 for cheapest DRAM SATA SSD, $40 for high end SATA SSD, $46 for decent NVMe

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So I mean, SATA in itself is kinda eh at 250gb

lyric thistle May 10, 2020, 8:44 AM

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how much is the Fatty Dove

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I'm certain it's oos atm but meh

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:44 AM

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fatty dove ssd Poggies

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:45 AM

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Fatty dove bad ish

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According to ltt

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They said it has dram

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But it starts slowing down after multiple writes

earnest olive May 10, 2020, 8:46 AM

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u cant expect that much out of such cheap drives

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itll boot windows faster than a hard drive

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thats about it

cursive wharf May 10, 2020, 8:49 AM

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I know this ended up being a bit more, but I went with trying to fix quality of life issues. I assume budget is $650 putting mine $37 over budget
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RnYmHB
-CPU: 3300x is better then 3100 clock for clock by like 20% due to amount of cores per CCX
-Mobo: Sound chip, LAN chip, dual M2 slots, etc. mATX TUF Pro is a minor improvement over Tomahawk in build quality while being cheaper, but of course OOS
-Storage: Went with DRAM NVMe cuz only $7 more over cheapest DRAM SATA and 2tb HDD cuz barely any more then 1tb
-PSU: Cheaper for the cost savings and budget allocations

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:49 AM

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@cursive wharf was supposed to be 600 dollars

cursive wharf May 10, 2020, 8:49 AM

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oof

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:49 AM

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We all went a tiny over budget

cursive wharf May 10, 2020, 8:50 AM

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well... $87 over budget needs to be reconsidered then

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:52 AM

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Ye

cursive wharf May 10, 2020, 8:56 AM

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Well, new thing
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fN3gmg
-mobo: About same quality as Tomahawk except for VRMs. But still good enough for upgrades because isnt trash. Also have at least two system fan headers
-Storage: Cheapest DRAM SSD

little leaf May 10, 2020, 8:57 AM

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Thanks

cursive wharf May 10, 2020, 8:59 AM

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Do note I was a little bit lazy on mobo filter. So might have missed a board that'll have a good deal later on (rn the selected mobo is cheapest okay board tho)

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So potential missed deals could happen if this list will be put off for like one+ week

little leaf May 10, 2020, 9:01 AM

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Ye