building-and-recc-chat

[pastel briar]

check the internet connection on that computer to make sure it is correctly connected

@deft zephyr https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zn7bZf there is a starter list, you can adjust as needed to fit your budget better if you like

[empty patio]

It is, I'm able to browse and download stuff. I was able to download the GeForce experience

I'm gonna let windows update and try again after

[long escarp]

@kind shuttle select your primary partition and select format. then next. after that windows will just do its thing.

[deft zephyr]

thanks

[kind shuttle]

How long does it take

[long escarp]

depends on your components. shouldnt be too long though

[kind shuttle]

Ok

[pastel briar]

@empty patio ok, then most likely if your windows is not fully up to date it may be causeing this so run your system updates and lets get that sorted first

@kind shuttle varies 10 - 30 ish or so

[cursive wharf]

@deft zephyr Do you have a 1440p@144Hz monitor or better? No point in a 1.5k system if you have worse
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VrcsBZ

I'd take that over the other build because everything isnt majorly overpriced

[kind shuttle]

Ok windows all set up

Any other settings I need to play w

Or anything I need to download

[celest horizon]

I hope your efi partition is on boot

[long escarp]

unless you're looking to do something specific then no it should be just plug and play

[deft zephyr]

Hey what are u talking about??

[celest horizon]

Wanna check? hit the windows key, type create and format, hit enter, expand the window a bit and post a screenshot

[long escarp]

I would head into your settings and update your windows version though if you didnt boot from the most recent version.

[celest horizon]

It's best to only connect the target drive when installing windows.

[cursive wharf]

@deft zephyr Is your monitor a 1440p 144Hz monitor?

[deft zephyr]

oh about the build no don’t worry about it no more thanks!

[celest horizon]

Windows will put the efi partition on whatever device initializes first - , different motherboards have varying standards, safest to only have a single target drive connected.

[celest horizon]

nice!

[kind shuttle]

Yay!

[long escarp]

looks good

[kind shuttle]

Anything else?

[celest horizon]

That's your 1TB ssd, right?

[kind shuttle]

Yea it’s the only storage I have

Why is there stuff on my desktop?

Oh I signed into Microsoft

How can I control what stuff is there

[pastel briar]

@kind shuttle not really, other then install what programs you want to use and start using your new pc

[celest horizon]

https://userbenchmark.com shows us your parts list, bios and gpu driver versions, whether or not xmp is enabled, and maybe more! 🙂

Running this test and posting the link here will make it easy to see if your system is running correctly.

[kind shuttle]

Somebody said something about xmp something

I don’t need to worry about that right

[long escarp]

windows comes with a myriad of default programs, some of which will end up on your desktop.

[celest horizon]

Ya, you can (should) enable xmp in bios, but it doens't hurt having it off

[kind shuttle]

Do I need nvidia control panel

[celest horizon]

You can use a powershell script to delete all that junk / customize things to your preference.

[kind shuttle]

I’m getting a notification

[celest horizon]

Yes. Windows should ask to install that

[kind shuttle]

No but it’s stuff with a little cloud icon on my old computer

[sudden solstice]

When should prices go back to normal ?

[kind shuttle]

How do I enable xmp and what is that lmaoo

[pastel briar]

@sudden solstice hard to say

@kind shuttle XMP would be enabled in you BIOS, and its the memory profile

[celest horizon]

I'd glance through the mobo manual , the quick setup section should help

[pastel briar]

for exact location or how to access with in BIOS consult your manual

[kind shuttle]

@sudden solstice there are a lot of supply chain issues at the moment cuz of covid

I can’t speak to lower prices

[sudden solstice]

Yeah damn that sucks I have the money to build a pc at the worse time

[kind shuttle]

But I can say more consistent pricing after it’s over

[sudden solstice]

Worst

[kind shuttle]

I just built mine!

[sudden solstice]

The Ryzen 5 3600 was 130 and it went to 189

[long escarp]

why would my memory benchmark be so low?

UserBenchmarks: Game 36%, Desk 71%, Work 61%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 - 69.6%
GPU: AMD R9 280 - 31.5%
SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 500GB - 117.3%
SSD: Samsung 860 Evo 500GB - 94.1%
HDD: WD Black 1TB (2010) - 69.8%
RAM: Unknown CMK16GX4M2A2666C16 CMK16GX4M2A2666C16 CMK8GX4M2A2666C16 CMK8GX4M2A2666C16 24GB - 58.8%
MBD: Asrock AB350 Pro4

[sudden solstice]

So how many weeks till prices drop on estimation

[kind shuttle]

No way to know

It’s not just a computer parts thing

It’s an economy thing

[celest horizon]

It's really far easier to just copy paste the web page link

[long escarp]

wont let me

[kind shuttle]

What will changing memory speed affect

[sudden solstice]

Rip

[celest horizon]

fixed

[cursive wharf]

I mean, it's also just UB

[long escarp]

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/27363428

[rotund cargo]

I need a parts list for a 550$ gaming pc Fortnite/csgo pro settings what do I get?

[pastel briar]

@rotund cargo I can try to get you a parts list but it won't be all brand new parts, infact your probabibly better off going with a budget type build like the "optiplex budget builds" or the "console killer" type builds, I don't mind helping you out but I am just giving you fair warning before hand

[rotund cargo]

Ok cool I’ll start lookin into those!

[pastel briar]

I managed to pick up my Optiplex (3010) for $60, and slapped a GTX 1050TI in it (this was back when the 1050TI was worth it) and it does 1080P games at high to ultra depending on the game

[cursive wharf]

@rotund cargo If new, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CzWsBZ

[pastel briar]

as for new looks like @cursive wharf beat me to it 🙂

[rotund cargo]

Ok cool thanks I was told to hold off on amd until next month or so so I didn’t know if I should get amd or Intel

[cursive wharf]

revision 2: added SSD with DRAM cache and more RAM
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JJRtq3

[pastel briar]

@rotund cargo if you want upgrade path and future expandability go AMD

that will be all I need to say on that matter honestly

[teal bison]

well you could also mention better value

[rotund cargo]

Thanks!

[pastel briar]

yea I could but it is generally assumed AMD is better value

😉

[kind shuttle]

The mic doesn’t seem to be working

The jack on the front of the case seems to be picking up input

But it’s barely doing that

[pastel briar]

you may need to download sound card drivers (or check your installation software if included with mainboard) and configure within windows as required), try plugging into the back side of the computer and test if that jack works

uuuug.....why is finding a case so hard when I know what I want......

[stoic island]

Corona

What are you looking for anyways

[pastel briar]

well general criteria I want it to meet

1: must be able to fit ATX sized board
2: must be able to fit my GTX 1080 (yea I know its not RTX so faf off)
3: must be rack mountable
4: must fit with in the standard "Rack" system
5: Prefferably 2U or 3U, however 4U IS acceptable

But other then that I am looking for some sort of rack mount case

but everything I find is along those lines, but pictures are not giving me the good feels or vibes, or the rails that are used for the case are not what I want to use (screw VS tool less) and I don't feel like drilling holes into my rack

@stoic island so yea sorry if it seems like im annoyed at the moment LOL being a techie you would think I would know where to look but every thing I find is either generic pictures or pictures that don't give me good feelz...

[stoic island]

Well, I don't know my way around rack cases so idrk

[pastel briar]

its all good, I have a few ideas, I just need to narrow down and not give in to the first thing I see or what ever

im just glad that as far as job wise goes I can sit in a nice quiet (to me) server room and be all alone and not deal with people

[cerulean gale]

Newb here. Best mini ATX cases? Preferably aesthetically pleasing.

[pastel briar]

@cerulean gale welcome, as for "best" case you sir (or ma'am) are asking a subjective and openended question

only you can really determine what is best for you

as for cases if you give me some guide lines to work with I can at least point you in the general direction

[cerulean gale]

Lol imma girl, Well I'm wanting something with good airflow so my graphics card doesn't blow. Getting a new one soon tho.

[pastel briar]

ok, I got ya

[cerulean gale]

So if anyone has any pointers, please.

[stoic island]

I don't think it's possible to fit a full height graphics card in a 3U case

Had to do some quick googling so I know a tiny bit of what I'm talking about

[pastel briar]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GY26TZJ/?coliid=IMTAUOF8IJZZ5&colid=GGUFBSQT1986&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it @cerulean gale this one would be good on air flow, and has been a go to, a bit expensive for some but the air flow is what your after this is honestly one of the better ones I have used

@stoic island its all good, I am pretty chill on that 🙂

I personially don't know everything my self 😄

[stoic island]

I don't think that case is in stock at the normal price

[pastel briar]

heh nothing really is going to be "normal" price anymore with Rona goin around

[stoic island]

Anyways I'm going off this, and normally graphics cards are like 5-6 inch high I believe

[cerulean gale]

3U? Like a server chassis?

[pastel briar]

indeed, though some 3 u cases (and at rare times 2U) do allow for the GPU to be mounted side ways with a riser card

[stoic island]

Yea.

[pastel briar]

yes

[cerulean gale]

Trying to game, not run a Minecraft server 😂 just kiddin

[stoic island]

Yea, that's always an option, but seems like a pain

[cerulean gale]

Yeah def

[pastel briar]

I am having a heck of a time finding a 2U - 4U rack mount case that I want (all the ones i look at have generic pictures or just don't give me the warm vibes/fuzzies.....

[cerulean gale]

^same about the fuzziest. Gotta have em

[stoic island]

Poppy if you just want a decent cheap mATX case, Focus G Mini can be a good option.

[pastel briar]

or if I look at the pictures they don't show the critical pieces I want to look at clearly........which is annoying AF

[stoic island]

I mean idrk but this looks alright
https://www.newegg.com/black-rosewill-rsv-l4000b/p/N82E16811147270?&quicklink=true

[pastel briar]

and I agree with @stoic island the Focus G is also a decient case as well, however I am not entirely sure about how air flow is so I can't comment on that

[stoic island]

I believe the airflow is fine, but it's a decent cheap option.

It's not the best for sure, but it's nice and cheap

I have the ATX Focus G, have no problem with airflow.

[cerulean gale]

I like the lian li 011 dynamic but I wish it was smaller

[pastel briar]

cool

[empty patio]

Hey @pastel briar turns out windows turned the gpu into a "Microsoft display adapter" during updates because that's a thing. After all the updates finally finished and numerous reboots windows downloaded an Nvidia driver and I was finally able to update the driver with the GeForce experience.

[little osprey]

Hay guys I'm trying to do a super custom PC that I'm going to try and put a atx into a cooler master q300l would a corsair sf series sf450 work with a 2070s and a 2700x

And how much upgrade ability would I have

[stoic island]

Pcpartpicker please

Then someone else will help you in the (near) future

[viral ore]

q300l uses ATX psus

sf450 is SFX

[little osprey]

I know I'm trying to put a atx mother board into the q300l and some crazy water cooling

[viral ore]

get the Q500L instead for that, but theyre both not very good cases

[little osprey]

And I want to make sure I have some upgradability in the future

[stoic island]

Q300l is mATX last I checked?

[little osprey]

I know it is

[viral ore]

thats why i suggested the Q500L

lol

[little osprey]

I'm doing super custom and the q500l is a stupid layout

[jaunty yew]

Yo can someone help build a pc under 1100 bucks that can run good

[viral ore]

Q500L is identical

[stoic island]

What the heck is super custom

[viral ore]

he thinks he can do a real custom built pc

like i do

using non standardized parts and techniques

[little osprey]

No the power supply is in a way different spot, I'm putting the water pump on the front of it on the outside and I'm going to put the rad on the top of the case

[viral ore]

so where are you gonna put the power supply?

[stoic island]

Though motherboard wise I don't think it's possible to fit?

Also why such a budget case for a "super custom" build

[viral ore]

it will fit, but the bottom half of the board will just float

[little osprey]

I'm putting the power supply in the same spot but I'm going to get the smallest one I can do I can fit the atx mother board if not I will just use a matx

[viral ore]

and your mounting this to the case, how?

[stoic island]

Why exactly are you going super custom?

For what reason

[stoic island]

@jaunty yew with or without monitor under 1100$

[viral ore]

heres on of my builds in the Q500L

[jaunty yew]

Without a monitor

[stoic island]

Ofc you gotta flex that dual socket

[viral ore]

if you dont know what your doing, dont mess around using components for their unintended purpose

[little osprey]

Here is a out pick of my idea

[viral ore]

so you already have the case

and an entire pc

so all you really want to do is liquid cool it

[little osprey]

Ya it apart right now because I'm getting the money from all of this so I'm ready to upgrade

[viral ore]

and what components do you have rn?

[little osprey]

I had a rx570 but I did get a 5600xt for Christmas

[viral ore]

im gonna be honest, if your temps are fine, you have no reason to upgrade

[little osprey]

And a 2700x is the CPU

[viral ore]

like, just leave it

[stoic island]

Do you even have tools to drill holes in it

@jaunty yew I half gave up on looking for a better motherboard, Corona be hitting supplies hard.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/84Chx6

[little osprey]

Yes I do my dad works on cars for a living he has a shop full of tbings

[viral ore]

you should look for a case you really really like before dropping 300 for liquid cooling

[little osprey]

I like this one

That's why I bought it

[viral ore]

its cheap for a reason

[stoic island]

So you're going to hang a res off the front

And slap a rad on top?

[little osprey]

On top that's the black line sorry for not explaining it

[viral ore]

look, jank pc build are hella fun, but not with expensive things

[foggy hazel]

morning

[stoic island]

Naed is this what you normally wake up to?

[viral ore]

haha, it IS morning lol

[foggy hazel]

this kind of logic? yes

[stoic island]

Huh, I'm usually asleep by now

[foggy hazel]

@little osprey drawings and plans

those are the requirements for anyone here to be able to remotely even start thinking about helping you

[little osprey]

Jank PC? My dad has basically a machine shop if I need to make something for it I can do it

[viral ore]

ive got an old pic of a 350 USD pc build i did, it is the jankest thing ever. I did it like that because it was cheap

the point is that your doing it with expensive components

[foggy hazel]

@viral ore you are going about it wrong

[viral ore]

if you wanna do it for fun, get a 3rd gen intel chip and an OEM dell board

leave your current pc alone

[little osprey]

I'm going to try my best to make it look like a peace of art not a trash can

[viral ore]

thats not the point either

[little osprey]

I have learned how to paint so I can paint it to the themem

Theme*

[foggy hazel]

@little osprey consider the following: This is not a small server: Meaning, we get all kinds of people passing through

[little osprey]

(star wars btw)

[viral ore]

its not about looks its about damaging your nice new components

[foggy hazel]

@viral ore hold up for a bit

[viral ore]

ok

[foggy hazel]

@little osprey what you have, and what you dont have. <- those are not things that matter

what matters if IF you have a plan that you can convince anyone (that actually knows what they are talking) is a remotely possible thing to do

IF you can do that. We can help you

Until you have that plan, throwing parts around is imo useless.

Now, you might say, what the Heck do you know about that Naed?

[little osprey]

I have the plan. Do you want me to show you

[foggy hazel]

Perhaps a bit, only been doing this for a couple of decades by now

Plans are always welcome

because if you dont have that, all the words in the worlds are just that, words.

[little osprey]

Okay basically I'm going to prime it paint it Black then silver ( this is the case) then I'm going to use the hair spray trick the Jay's two sents showed off do that for the tub wholes on both the tubs for the rad and the ones that go the the pump and then I'm going to let it dry come back put in the motherboard and CPU water block (not tight at all!) Get the tubs run were they go and in the correct spot make sure the all are sealed (going to use a air tester for the tubes) and then I'm going to take the tubs and stuff out build the pc like I would normally and then fill the loop and I'm finished

[foggy hazel]

thats words

that not really a plan

but do go on

[little osprey]

What you mean

" That not a plan" then what is a plan

You tell me what is then

[foggy hazel]

what you said above is very much akin to me saying: i want to travel across europe

and when asked for how

"rent a car!"

thats not a plan

thats an idea

[little osprey]

Because I guess when I built my fist car I just was stupid so you tell me what to do

[foggy hazel]

you are missing the point

we cannot read your mind

we cannot see what you see

it is your job to make us "see/understand" what it is you actually want to do

waving your arms around and saying "blargh blargh!"

that does not convey much to any of us

it might mean the world to you

but we cannot understand it

make us understand it

do you get the point?

[pastel briar]

...

[foggy hazel]

@pastel briar no.

[pastel briar]

no what?

[foggy hazel]

let him think about it

[pastel briar]

wasn't planing on saying anything, my brain isn't processing his request

[little osprey]

Basically this with the tank on the front

[pastel briar]

im still trying to get through the walls of text hence the "..." @foggy hazel

did you have a good rest by the way?

[foggy hazel]

@little osprey can we agree that what you just said is VERY different from what you started with?

in the "conveying the concept/idea" way?

@pastel briar one word: seagulls

[pastel briar]

@foggy hazel I was thinking more Squirrel....but I suppose seagulls work just as well......

[little osprey]

Well I guess I'm a I'm stupid then will be back when it's done yall have fun , thanks for the help with the power supply tho

[foggy hazel]

@little osprey you are completely missing the point.

Please ask anyone you know, that has ever asked someone for help with production/construction of something. How they shared their idea/concept

and you are going to get a differently worded version of what i said above

[pastel briar]

yup, very true

[foggy hazel]

you might not like it @little osprey

but that is really not something i can do anything about.

also @pastel briar https://i.imgur.com/VdqcBMj.png <- a mate linked me this yesterday

my response was "as long as we are agreed that the top one is the one i wish for and the bottom is the calm verson of the ones i have"

[pastel briar]

nice 🙂 I so want to find that image and the text to it and print it out for my server room at work....errr I mean office

perhaps make a meme out of it 😄

[foggy hazel]

i can ask him

[pastel briar]

cool, check DM

[little osprey]

Okay please tell me how I'm missing the point I really want to know now

How am I missing a point when when you don't tell me what point it is

[viral ore]

I think his point was that your plans and ideas aren't fleshed out enough to the point where we can really help you

[little osprey]

I just came for the power supply help not a full build break down

[viral ore]

We can't help but ask, especially when your question doesn't make a lot of sense to us

SFX psu in an ATX case is confusing, you know

[foggy hazel]

@little osprey you, as the one asking for help, is the one that has the responsibility of making what you say, understandable, to the people that you are asking for help from

[little osprey]

I asked if a sfx power supply would work with the hardware that's all I wanted that's all I came for not a onslaught of hate because I have something in my brain that I want to do that you guys can't seem to figure out

[foggy hazel]

if you see hate, i would strongly recommend that you read it again

[pastel briar]

were not hating

[foggy hazel]

if you ask anyone but the trolls that we get here daily, i think you will find i am one of the most patient and levelheaded people here

[pastel briar]

perhaps lets try looking at this differently then...give us plans, and drawings, ask us what you want from us, give us the "what do you need, what do you want, and what help are you seeking from the collective"

[stoic island]

While I'm sorry we can't just give you a concrete yes or no, we are trying to give you information that will be useful to you in the future.

[foggy hazel]

consider this: If we werent interested, we wouldnt say anything.

[little osprey]

@stoic island thank you for being some one who doesn't want a build break down

[pastel briar]

@little osprey so based on your question your wanting to know if a SFX type PSU will work with your case? is this correct?

(sorry I had to scroll up and piece everything together)

[little osprey]

Okay basically it's going it be a star wars theme that is going to need paint a 280mm rad a Corsair waterpump and tank combo the tank is going to be ether custom mounted to the front or just use the fan mount and attached it that way idk a 💯 if the fan mount will work so I might have to make one I will also be bending ptg tubing to run it to the CPU and to the 280 rad and to tank and then I will test make sure it all is leak test it and then build it like it should @foggy hazel is that good enough for ya or need to do more step by step

@pastel briar I was asking if a sfx 450 would run a 2700x and a 2070s

[cursive wharf]

sfx 450 generally dont have amazing quality. Do specify the exact model

[foggy hazel]

for answering if the SFX being in the case is the sane option together with the rest of your parts. It is technically possible

BUT

specific care has to be taken with the exact model of SFX

because SFX can mean a bunch of things

[pastel briar]

ok, yes I theroretically should be ok, but I would suggest for better performance (and similar cost) getting a 650W PSU as that would give you "room to grow"

[foggy hazel]

its very much the e-atx version of PSU's

as i said earlier @little osprey we get all kinds of people here

[little osprey]

@hei corsair 450w sfx is what I was thinking but I came here to see if I needed something else

[cursive wharf]

Im also not one for looks until high perf has been achieved. As in, selling your 570 and 5600XT as well as using the water cooling budget for a 2070S or smth

[foggy hazel]

and the only way we can make certain that what we recommend/say-yes to, is not a wasted investment from their end. Our hands are kinda forced, in that we need to ask questions

because we have people ask: is this 450w PSU decent? yes, yes it is.

next question we hear is: Why doesnt my SLI Titan build work?

and i wish i was joking about that

as i said.

we CANNOT read your mind

[pastel briar]

also keep in mind if your using an ATX case, your PSU hole is larger, and your SFX psu is going to be smaller then your avrage ATX psu (see picture) so you will need an adapter bracket to mount it, so yes it is possible to use SFX PSUs in ATX sized cases, adapter is just required

I actually have an SFX in my ATX case with adapter at this time

[cursive wharf]

As a note tho, Corsair SF does seem to be good quality. Mind you seems overpriced rn, unless you already have it

[foggy hazel]

adapters are generally IN the box of silverstone sfx psu's

[pastel briar]

yes, either way said adapter will need to be used

[foggy hazel]

(adapters for mounting a SFX in a ATX cutout)

[pastel briar]

@little osprey and if you need or wish me to I can try to snap you a quick picture of what I am referring to/talking of

[little osprey]

@pastel briar Okay thanks for the help I already know I might need to fab something or put it in a different way but I don't think I will be doing it anymore since I seemed to not know how to i will just leave it air be quiet is probably what I might buy and then just get a 2080 and buy a nzxt case

[pastel briar]

you can keep going with your project, were not trying to discourage you, we are just merely trying to help you spend your hard earned money wisely

[foggy hazel]

https://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=631&area=en <- thats the bracket that silverstone does.

[cursive wharf]

There are a lot of "what ifs" with this stuff

You have to ultimately decide what you want. Spend a fair amount of money on looks and stay with a "meh" perf system, or spend the money on perf rather then looks

[little osprey]

@pastel briar oh I understand I was being sarcastic,

[cursive wharf]

Then getting the right parts

[little osprey]

@hei you understand exactly what I mean 😂 be as basic of a pc build as I can

[empty patio]

Evga precision x1 keeps locking my computer hard. Is that even worth using? Should I just use msi afterburner to monitor and mess with fan curvs?

[little osprey]

@cursive wharf I have had a pretty not so great looking rig for a while so I just want a change and your telling me a 2070s and a 2700x are nothing

[cursive wharf]

Afterburner does work with other cards, so might as well

[pastel briar]

anyways im gonna go sleep some and be back on later

[cursive wharf]

last I heard you had a 5600xt

not a 2070S

[pastel briar]

@little osprey I wouldn't call my rig "pretty" by any strech, its an Ex Office pc, with an Ex data center server next to it 😄

[little osprey]

I'm upgrading to a 2070 I already have a 2700x

Oof @pastel briar

[pastel briar]

just make sure you get a good quality PSU, don't skimp out and go with the Chineseium ones, they tend to not be good....see Exhibits A and B

[cursive wharf]

I'd wait until you have the GPU and then do a full custom loop (cheap one here)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32899782878.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.5cf562285UYWPR

[little osprey]

Oooof

[pastel briar]

those are what I call Chineseium IEDs 😉

[cold sorrel]

I ran that Userbenchmark program on my laptop for the lulz.

[little osprey]

@pastel briar ya and I'm not doing that if I'm going to spend the time and paint the case why wouldn't I spend the money and buy ekwb stuff it will basically last forever and has a back bone when it comes to reliability

[pastel briar]

anyways imma head to bed now.....supposedly I need this thing called sleep.... 😄

[cursive wharf]

dont go ekwb

so overpriced

[little osprey]

What?????

[cursive wharf]

Barrow/Bykski have watercooling stuff at like half the cost

for the same quality stuff

Look at the link a few messages above for proof of price

usually about $260 USD for a CPU/GPU 360mm/240mm RGB Copper custom loop

when shipping is included

[little osprey]

Didn't Linus post something about those

[cursive wharf]

idk

[little osprey]

For a 40$ I can have a hard tube thermal take 280 kit

[cold sorrel]

This is what it says about my current rig... Starting to see why I want to build a new desktop to replace it?
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/27367504

[cursive wharf]

and what is included with that kit?

aluminum CPU block/rad, pump, maybe reservoir?

lack of GPU block I'd guess

[little osprey]

Yep everything you just said

No gpu block

[cursive wharf]

are fans decent quality?

[little osprey]

https://www.thermaltake.com/thermaltake-pacific-c240-ddc-hard-tube-water-cooling-kit.html

Yes there are

https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-pacific-c240-ddc-hard-tube-water-cooling-kit/p/N82E16835106587?&quicklink=true

Here is the newweg link

[cursive wharf]

Except that's $300

you getting it used?

F, need to be level 3 for links

[little osprey]

Ya 260 add 40 300 I would rather spend 300 then 260 on a brand I have never heard of

[cursive wharf]

Would you trust an Antec PSU, or a Wentai PSU?

if not, you just passed up two of the PSU sellers that sell some of what are literally the best ATX PSU sellers in the world

all because of the "dont want to trust something I didnt here about"

Metal quality is good, tubing quality is good, build quality is good

for that Bykski kit

thus, no issues will happen

[ember cobalt]

would anyone mind letting me know what the difference between an AMD Ryzen 5 1600 6-Core, 12-Thread Unlocked 65W Desktop Processor and like an AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Matisse 3.6GHz 6-Core AM4 Boxed Processor would be

[little osprey]

So if you buy a car and you don't hear anything about it but everyone is buying it no one reviews it never heard about it ever are you going to trust it in a crash

[cursive wharf]

Also, Bykski is relatively well known

well, I look at info for it. Which I did for both Bykski and Barrow

two cheap watercooling companies

most heavy watercooling people have already heard of Bykski, mostly for fittings actually

[open orchid]

yall are still up?

[cold sorrel]

I keep researching things, but at this point I decided I'm going to wait for June before I start buying parts. Though if a really good deal on a monitor or keyboard comes up I might buy them ahead of time. (Monitor I can test by hooking my laptop to it. Same for the keyboard.)

[little osprey]

I have heard about both the company's I just manly want the easy of use with the blight

[foggy hazel]

@ember cobalt simple answer is IPC

[open orchid]

oh hey naed xD

[foggy hazel]

hello @open orchid

[cursive wharf]

blight? or typo and light?

[ember cobalt]

I’m new to all this so tbh i don’t know what you mean

[foggy hazel]

@ember cobalt think about it like this: amount of work done in a given period of time

[open orchid]

anyone got recommendations for case fans? (i can wait i dont wanna interuppt)

[foggy hazel]

the 3600 at equal speed to the 1600 just does more

[cursive wharf]

Arctic fans

[open orchid]

what RPM?

[cursive wharf]

fairly cheap and decent quality

[foggy hazel]

@ember cobalt make more sense that way?

[ember cobalt]

yeah thank you

[cursive wharf]

dont know off top of my head. But CFM and static pressure are good enough most of the time

[cold sorrel]

I know I'm definitely getting a Ryzen 3600 CPU, because that's sort of a good spot right now for a gaming build.

[ember cobalt]

I’m just looking into what would be better for me to get

[open orchid]

got it thanks <3

[little osprey]

Bye bye 👋

[foggy hazel]

@ember cobalt for what it specifically means for YOU, i would highly recommend having a serious look at some actual reviews of things

[cursive wharf]

well, cya

[ember cobalt]

alr

[foggy hazel]

@ember cobalt https://www.anandtech.com/show/14605/the-and-ryzen-3700x-3900x-review-raising-the-bar <- that is a solid place to start.

[cold sorrel]

Graphics card, I keep going back and forth whether I should get the 1660 Super or bump it up to a 2060 Super. (My current GPU is Nvidia and I just feel like sticking with them for GPU.)

[open orchid]

im getting a 2070 RTX super for my build hopefully

8 GB

[foggy hazel]

@cold sorrel as has been mentioned to you before, until you are just about to buy (and have settled on a specific budget) dont worry about it

[cold sorrel]

Doesn't help I have to buy a monitor, because I somehow doubt my ancient VGA connector monitor would even be worth buying the adapter for.

[cursive wharf]

also depends when you want to buy. If you wait a few months you're getting close to rumored GPU release date, to which you may want to wait

and play the "infinite waiting game"

[cold sorrel]

Right now I'm waiting for the b550 boards and for prices to otherwise stabilize

[foggy hazel]

@stoic island you asked about the 3300x earlier: "The market for the $700 PC is about to be blown wide open. In May, in most regions by the 21st, AMD is set to have the Ryzen 3 3300X in the market."

[cold sorrel]

Yeah, things will shift next month with those new Ryzen chips launching

[foggy hazel]

ONLY if you dont need the cores thou

but yes, budget builds will get new toys to play with

[cursive wharf]

I mean pretty sure 1200AF/1300AF was coming to market too

[cold sorrel]

I'm still going 3600. I like the idea of going up to a six core processor, compared to this laptop's four

[open brook]

hello i have a ASUS Z170 PRO GAMING - motherboard - ATX - LGA1151 Socket - Z170 paired with a Intel Core i7-6700K 8M Skylake Quad-Core 4.0 GHz LGA 1151 91W and a graphics card that i bought in 2016 that just blew out it was a ASUS STRIX GT 980 Ti with 6 gb ram should i buy a 2080 ti gtx and also upgrade the cpu from a 6700k to the latest 600 dollar cpu 9th gen core i 7 or should i just fix the issue witch is the graphics card because the 6700k is pretty powerful

when my pc was running it was very solid even though it was all made in 2016 i could stream with 0 dropped frames and record at very high frames with the settings on max

ingame settings on max i mean

i was leaning towards just buying the 2080 ti as this card is pretty high in number at cost

ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2080 Ti DirectX 12 ROG-STRIX-RTX2080TI-O11G-GAMING 11GB 352-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
OUT OF STOCK

$1,336.94 (6 Offers)
Free Shipping

i also bought a gaming laptop i foudn out it can play games at max frame rate max graphics but as soon as u try to record footage or do any type of streaming you drop frames hence why im guna use the new msi gaming laptop to play in other peoples houses and make a gaming desktop[

im also glad that technology from 2016 is still ongoig in 2020 for examplle the mother boards cpu socket is still 1151 and the new core i7s all the way to the latest one still use the same socket

[sleek hinge]

@cold sorrel I would get a 2070 super because the GTX 1660 super is missing certain features that rtx cards only have or like @cursive wharf said you can play the "infinite waiting game"

[open brook]

loot what bot me

bout*

this is the laptop im using to record and stream but its dropping frames hence why i wanted to buy a 2080 ti since the 980gtx died Laptop mis GL75-9sdk

msi

when i dont record or stream it playes at maximum i mean maximum frame rate super high not sure why the latest cpu on the laptop drops frames

even with resolution scaling to the max the laptop still holds 70 fps on modern games

and at native 1080p rendering scaling to normal its like 140 fps

the games i would like to stream with out dropping frames for desktop at high fps 1080p gaming would be like modern warfare or battlefield V

[sleek hinge]

@open brook I'm not sure what ur asking

can you plz clarify @open brook

So are you asking if you should upgrade from you 6700k and gtx 980 ti?

[open brook]

so what happend was when with the parts mentioned aboove i had a desktop running super smooth for recording and streaming but then im assuming the graphics card died and was bought in 2016 witch the warranty was just short over a year ago so i was thinking to buy a 2080 gtx ti to replace it i looked up on the internet if my mother board was compatible with the 2080 gtx ti and it said yes but i was also wondering if i should buy the latest 600 dollar 9th gen i7 to go along with it but the cpu i have right now is a 6700k i7 skylake and is pretty powerful

no my old card is a gtx 980 ti

[sleek hinge]

ok

depends on what you need

[open brook]

just need a desktop pc because i bought one of the latest msi gaming laptops and its dropping frames when i record or stream and i know for a desktop it wont do that

[sleek hinge]

you want to stream

correct?

[open brook]

yea

[sleek hinge]

then i would recommend you upgrade your cpu, motherboard and gpu

[open brook]

i have 100gigbyte download and upload so my internet is fast

ok

i willl do it

as i dont have money my dads guna buy everything

[sleek hinge]

rendering your streams depend on your cpu

i would recomend amd for this point in time

[open brook]

ok

new motherboard amd cpu and a gtx 2080ti

right?

[sleek hinge]

dosen't need to be a 2080 ti

but if you can do it you can

[open brook]

kk

thannks for helping me homie

[sleek hinge]

gaming and streaming is all your doing right?

[open brook]

yea

[sleek hinge]

a ryzen 5 or 7 should do ya fine

[open brook]

kk ill look it up on newegg

[sleek hinge]

2nd or 3rd gen

b450 or x570 motherboard

[open brook]

?

AMD RYZEN 7 3800X 8-Core 3.9 GHz (4.5 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 105W 100-100000025BOX Desktop Processor

[sleek hinge]

you cant post links

yes should do you fine

[open brook]

kk

[sleek hinge]

do you have a budget?

[open brook]

3000

[sleek hinge]

o rlly

[open brook]

yea not my money but my dads

lol

[sleek hinge]

in that case

get a rtx 2080 ti, 16 gb of ddr4 3600 ram x570 motherboard, and an AIO cooler

also an 3900x

[open brook]

kk i took a pic of the list so i just show it to the computer guy tell him to build it

i think the monitor is out of date as well 60hz i should also get a 144hz monitor

ASUS TUF GAMING VG27WQ 27" WQHD 2560 x 1440 (2K) 1ms (MPRT) 165Hz (Max) HDMI, DisplayPort FreeSync DisplayHDR 400 Built-in Speakers Curved Gaming Monitor

[sleek hinge]

yup

i have sent you a whole list of links for parts

[pastel briar]

morning all

or after noon for those in the uk/other half of the world

[eager chasm]

@open brook not much sense in getting a 3800X, the 3700X is basically the same CPU for a bit cheaper, the boosts pretty much make them near identical

[sleek hinge]

well he has a massive $3000 budget so i told him to get a ryzen 3950 and a RTX 2080 ti

[eager chasm]

Ah I see

[dusk oyster]

I need help with the motherboard mounting

I don’t know what screws i need to mount with

[pastel briar]

@dusk oyster you should have screws that look like what is pictured (may be black depending on mfg) these "top hat" screws would be the ones to use

[sudden turret]

depends on case too, might not need any standoffs.

[raw igloo]

@open brook where in the world do you get 100 gb/s?

internet

[open brook]

taiwan

my games tho cap

at 15mbs

like world oof waraft

[pastel briar]

@sudden turret true, but they were asking about the screws which is why I posted that as it shows what they were seeking..... 😄 and im all about imparting knowledge 😉

[stoic island]

@raw igloo They prob mean 100mb/s up down

[raw igloo]

Oh

[sleek valley]

does anyone have any time to talk privately about doing upgrades to my friends pc? i dont know alot and i dont want to give bad advice. i have the specs for his pc, i just dont want to blow up this chat

[sudden turret]

That's what this chat is designed for 🙂

[sleek valley]

yea i know, but i dont want others comments to get lost i guess you know? just trying to respect other peoples questions

[pastel briar]

your welcome to throw it here, I am not really doing anything but listening to YT videos and music as I surf FeeBay

[wide sparrow]

Good morning citizens

OK ):

[sullen spoke]

😠

[pastel briar]

Morning

[wide sparrow]

Finally some people with some respect. Gm

I bring gifts

[still roost]

JPcheese#9905 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[wide sparrow]

Oof

Intel's new 10th gen desktop CPUs look compelling...especially the i7 10700k and 10700kf...but the tdp of 125w on BASE clock is no good

Also the prices are cheaper now....but ryzen is still a better deal. You can save like 50 dollars on a 3700x

[pastel briar]

filters for 2 TB SSD....stupid people.....filtered results return 250GB SSD drives....how does 250GB = 2TB or 2 gigabits or 200,00,00,000,000 Bytes.........bangs head into stress reliever

well I guess its true that "I can't fix stupid" sigh.....

[sullen spoke]

jp

bad

[wide sparrow]

I'm still on AMDs side

Long live amd

[sudden turret]

THIS IS THE WAY

\o/

[sudden turret]

discord is lagging out

not loading pics/gifs

[modest kraken]

Is the amd ryzen 3600 worth the extra money over the 2600 or is the 2600 good enough

[sudden turret]

depends what you want to do.

[modest kraken]

Just good 1080p gaming

[sudden turret]

I mean, 3600 would be better in my opinion for future proofing

as it's newer.

you wouldn't need to upgrade for a while.

[celest horizon]

What are the prices on each

If I could buy a 2600 for $70, I'd take it over a 3600 when super budget constrained

[untold trail]

Warning!Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.

can someone help me understand this

[deft zephyr]

send me your motherboard @untold trail

and your cpu

[raven aurora]

Morning, long time shopper first time chatter. I have completed my first build and am kinda stumped as to were to plug the CPU cooler pump. I currently have it plugged into the CPU fan header on the B450 MAX, should i plug it into the PUMP fan 1 instead? or does it really matte?r

[pastel briar]

@untold trail that just basically is saying if your getting a Ryzen CPU you may need to use a different (same socket type) CPU that is slightly older to flash the BIOS (upgrade), IIRC AMD was offering an "upgrade kit" that they would send you and then once done your done you send it back

[dusk oyster]

Why I can’t send photo

[wary tundra]

you have to be lvl 3

[dusk oyster]

I need help with nzxt h510 elite

Anyone i chat with privately?

[wary tundra]

Whats the issue

I dont think I would be any help but I might be able to @dusk oyster

[pastel briar]

@raven aurora I would recommend referring to the pumps manual for further info as different pump MFGs say different things, what mainboard are you using? I don't do water cooling so aside from general info I will defer to someone who has more experience in this

[untold trail]

AMD Ryzen 3600 3.6 GHz 6 core, and Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

@deft zephyr

[deft zephyr]

False warning,

Check the site of the motherboard your cpu is compatable

[untold trail]

ok cool

so i should be fine ordering those?

[deft zephyr]

Yeah you will be fine

[untold trail]

another question, how do i determine if a case is compatible with my parts?

[deft zephyr]

That i dont know

[untold trail]

ok thanks for the help tho

[wary tundra]

what case are you looking at @untold trail

[untold trail]

DIYPC Solo-T2-BK Black USB 3.0 ATX Mid Tower Case

im confused on a lot of things actually

im not sure how many case fans i need if any, and how do i make sure the dimensions of the case fit my parts

also ryzen cpus come with a stock cooler right?

[wary tundra]

yes

can you send me your list

[untold trail]

i can link u the pc part picker list? is that ok?

[wary tundra]

yea lol

it disappeared

you have to be lvl 3 to send links @untold trail

Dm me

[untold trail]

ohhhh ok

[hot vigil]

That case includes 2 120mm fans and the side vent can support another 120mm fan

Motherboard needs to be a Micro atx/atx i'm presuming that is miro or standard /

[wary tundra]

it can support micro atx

but im chaning that case no cap

[hot vigil]

make sure you go by the dimensions section as it lists the max length your gpu and psu can be

in the coments section it says by more than one person if you plan on installing an Optical drive the standard ATX MB gets in the way

Comments section doesn't favor it very much many issues with using ATX, Micro ATX and optical drive

[wary tundra]

already figured out lol

[timber brook]

whats a good entry level graphics card for gaming on a budget

[wary tundra]

580 is good

it all depends on your budget though @timber brook

[empty patio]

Does memtest run my ram at stock rated clocks and timing? Trying to test stability and its not showing what I set up in my bios. Cpuz did confirm the OC before I booted into memtest. Is this normal?

[foggy hazel]

@untold trail please dont use that Case

@empty patio yes, normal.

[empty patio]

is there a version of memtest that runs while windows is booted? Currently running a version that required booting from a USB.

[foggy hazel]

but why are you OC'ing your memory?

[empty patio]

I'm actually underclocking and tightening up timings.

My ram rated at 4400 cl19. Got it to boot at 3600mhz cl14 and I just want to test stability.

[foggy hazel]

memtest = testing for faulty cells <- very simplified explanation

[empty patio]

Got you. What would you recommend to test stability of clocks and timings?

[foggy hazel]

whatever you do normally

because you can test with a given tool until you are blue in the face, and then turn around and do what you normally do, and the system crashes

[empty patio]

Haha got it. I guess that's an answer that puts me more at ease.

[untold trail]

im not

someone helped me make a better

build

basically did it for me

lol

[foggy hazel]

@untold trail good, because that case is horrible to work with

[still roost]

Hero#7119 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[empty patio]

In your opinion is there anything I should do to my 3900x in terms of clock and voltage? I've read alot about different bios making it less optimal than what it should be.

[foggy hazel]

@untold trail send me the link please :)

[untold trail]

ah no cussing either

my b

[foggy hazel]

on behalf of @untold trail https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9tWhx6

800 hard limit on budget?

[wary tundra]

I tried to find parts that where in stock

I recommended a 144hz monitor but that would push him over his budget

[foggy hazel]

ah, its a "must build this moment" build?

[wary tundra]

yea

[foggy hazel]

fair enough

things get weird when patience goes out the window

[untold trail]

yeah 800 - 850

[wary tundra]

850

nani

[untold trail]

i have a keyboard and mouse set

nah 800 including monitor and pc

keyboard and mouse is seperate

[wary tundra]

naed it killed me putting a bq, I wanted to throw in a cx

[empty patio]

Last ram question. I know cpuz shows the single data rate speeds. But why is my frequency such a weird number. This is essentially 3596mhz lol =3600mhz in bios. Anything to worry about?

[foggy hazel]

prices are just not there at the moment @wary tundra :)

@empty patio just nod your head and pat yourself on your back

[wary tundra]

it sucks that its not in stock

[foggy hazel]

everything is fine enough with that reading @empty patio

[empty patio]

Ty @foggy hazel appreciate what you do here.

[foggy hazel]

you are very welcome @empty patio and thank you for the sentiment

[wary tundra]

do you have in recommendations for heros build

I tried to stay on budget and make sure the parts are in stock

[foggy hazel]

nah, its a "looking somewhat forward" kinda list @wary tundra

so in that regard, its solid enough

[untold trail]

do i need case fans?

sucks i have to order every part from different sites lol

and i have to order the case from phanteks

oh newegg nvm

[wary tundra]

the p300a mesh comes with 2 fans I believe

[foggy hazel]

@wary tundra 1 iirc

[wary tundra]

ohhh

You're right

[pastel briar]

@untold trail you don't "need" fans, however moving the hot air out of the case and away from your components is a good idea so I would suggest having at least one intake and one exhaust (not counting the one in the PSU)

just like I don't "need" a 4u rack mount case, power cords that are colour coded but I am getting those so I can clean up my rack and desk area so there is less spaghetti at the wall outlet 😄

[hearty glen]

Hey I'm trying to build my first pc and I have the parts but I can't decide between the 2060 Super SC Ultra Gaming and the AsRock Radeon 5700 XT Challenger. And suggestions??

[foggy hazel]

@hearty glen no need to ask in multiple channels

https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2522?vs=2517

look at the actual numbers, NOT the summary alone

[pastel briar]

@foggy hazel do you think a 31" deep (800mm) rack would be too much for 28"(ish) (711.2MM) deep server(s)?

[foggy hazel]

as long as you have support struts

(fairly used to moving racks around with sound equipment .... that stuff does NOT move 1mm without struts)

[pastel briar]

its a 4 post unit just so you know sorry forgot to include that

I am just trying to figure if 800MM is too large of a depth, for something that is no more then 711.2MM or if I should have the rack slightly shorter then the server (I hope I make sense as I have a hard time visualizing things)

[foggy hazel]

it makes sense just fine

but again, it boils down to support (struts)

[pastel briar]

I understand, I got decently thick supports, and worst case I have the ability to fab up reinforcement pieces to add additional rigidity

[foggy hazel]

then does that not answer your question?

[upper verge]

Okay so this is what im buying for my build.

Thing is i also need help getting a good PSU but i want it to fit good in this build

[stoic island]

Might be better to just link the list

[upper verge]

Okay...

Sorry to be weird or bothersome...

[compact latch]

Yeah link the list also why the 5500xt with the 3600 yikes

[upper verge]

Cause im building a medium ranged PC

[compact latch]

5500xt is low tier my guy it's not that great either

[upper verge]

....

[stoic island]

Just let them link the list

Also, budget?

[compact latch]

Yeah budget is definitely key

[upper verge]

Im so done with this....

Sigh...

[compact latch]

No one said making a parts list is easy lol

Why we are here for

[upper verge]

No no no

I have 5 different people sayjng what i have listed will work JUST FINE

[foggy hazel]

@upper verge take a deep breath, and please link me your list.

and the rest of you? you really should consider how you speak to other people when they come seeking help.

[upper verge]

Sorry ive just ive got alot of pressure on me the last week cause i just want this PC to work better than what i have.. i wish i had money to make a beautiful 3300 pc but i dont... all i have is $1400

[compact latch]

We are helping we waiting for the link but he needs to adjust for the best money he can use because x570 with a 5500xt is a wrong choice

[foggy hazel]

as mentioned above, please send me the link for your build (if you have one)

[sudden turret]

is that a joke?

1400 if in usd is a beast of a Pc

[compact latch]

Right@sudden turret

[stoic island]

( I assume they do have a list since the screenshot looked like of pcpp )

[upper verge]

I have the list of parts from Newegg just a moment

[foggy hazel]

Could the people that want to judge before listening, please go somewhere else?

[stoic island]

I'll sit tight.

[upper verge]

The thing is im worried this isnt all going to fit...

[foggy hazel]

@upper verge you posted a pcpartpicker screenshot earlier. Do you have the build assembled over there?

[compact latch]

Change out the motherboard to a b450 tomahawk max. That x570 board has awful temps for vrms and is also getting replaced by the x570 tomahawk if you still want the PCIe gen 4 even though you don't have a gen 4 nvme drive

[upper verge]

Im a newb with PCs alright? If everyone eants to make me feel worse...

No this is what i plan to purchase

[foggy hazel]

@compact latch could you calm down for a bit? and let the user talk first

[compact latch]

I'm giving him useful info which is all true

[upper verge]

Im awaiting funds

[foggy hazel]

you are throwing technobable at a person who doesnt care or know.

so, i will ask again @upper verge, do you have a pcpartpicker list?

[foggy bough]

hello i have a question

[foggy hazel]

@foggy bough dont wait to ask, just ask :) people will decide if they can help you based on that :)

[foggy bough]

okay

would it be better if i boutght a ryzen 5 3600 and a msi gtx 1660 super (with 2 fans ) over a ryzen 5 1600 af with a rx 5600xt gigabyte(with 3 fans) if i choose the firSt option i will save 20 euros

im planning on gaming

[upper verge]

Thing is @foggy hazel when i try to do my parts its says dimensions maybe a small issue

[foggy hazel]

you are going to have a heck of a time finding the 1600 AF at anything that resembles a resonable price

[foggy bough]

here in greece the ryzen 5 3600 is 170 euros and the ryzen 5 1600 af is 110

[upper verge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HcBKb8

[foggy bough]

the 3600 might be 180 i dont remember

[foggy hazel]

@upper verge just put in the parts, and dont worry for now. I will happily talk you through the details of figuring out what is wrong :)

@foggy bough not "listed" price. but actual stock

IF you can get it for a reasonable price, and it is in stock, the 1600AF is not a bad choice

[foggy bough]

im planning on buying the system around july or august

[upper verge]

Okay doing that now

[foggy hazel]

and keep in mind, the 5600XT competes with the 2060 cards, not the 1660 supers

@foggy bough dont worry about things for now then

@upper verge let me just have a look at your list

[foggy bough]

yeah but which should i buy

[foggy hazel]

@foggy bough whatever makes sense WHEN you are actually buying

[upper verge]

I need to ask one thing with the setup so far what would the reccomended PSU be?

[foggy hazel]

@foggy bough deciding "now" what you should buy in 3-4 months is, imo, a bad idea

[foggy bough]

ok

true

[foggy hazel]

@upper verge lets take your questions one at a time

[upper verge]

Sure sorry x.x

[foggy hazel]

nothing to be sorry about

[upper verge]

This is just all new to me and everything

[foggy hazel]

its just to keep confusion levels down :)

and dont worry about asking questions that you think might be stupid.

there are NO stupid questions, only silly answers

[upper verge]

I just want a system that runs cool has enough space and is efficent

[foggy hazel]

that is fairly simple to get for you :)

[upper verge]

Thank you @foggy hazel

[foggy hazel]

you mentioned "dimensions"

"Note:Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders." <- this is what you are worried about ?

[upper verge]

Yes

[foggy hazel]

that is a generic warning. It is nothing to worry about.

[upper verge]

Okay

Thats good

[foggy hazel]

basically it means that: We (pcpartpicker) might make mistakes, so ... dont blame us!

[deep skiff]

it just means they dont check the thousands of ram+cpu cooler combos and check all of them fitting

[upper verge]

Hmm ok

[foggy hazel]

Now, the PSU question

for the parts that are currently in the list, any decent/good PSU over 300watts, would do the trick

BUT

your current system is not what you are going to end up with :)

so lets wait on that part of the build for now

[upper verge]

Okay...

So wait my parts ive chosen are bad?

[foggy hazel]

not bad, just not complete

[upper verge]

Oh ok

[foggy hazel]

You mentioned a 1400 budget

is that USD?

[upper verge]

Yes

Yes it is

Ive got half of it right now

$780

[foggy hazel]

(have to check, because we get all nationalities passing through, and availability of parts, depends on the region of the world)

[upper verge]

Understandable

[pastel briar]

@foggy hazel I is here if you need some back up, just let me know just chilling out at the moment

[foggy hazel]

You total budget, is that for the machine itself? or does that also include monitor

@pastel briar noted

[upper verge]

No monitor

Im using my TV for time being

[foggy hazel]

noted @upper verge

[upper verge]

Until i get more funds

[foggy hazel]

When do you expect to have the full 1400?

[upper verge]

Probably Next Wednesday

Or earlier

Im on unemployment

And waiting for funds to be added

[foggy hazel]

again, gotta ask, because people come in asking for builds for machines they are building next year.

[upper verge]

Gotcha

But ya i have $780 right now..

[foggy hazel]

and a list made "now" is most likely very very wrong next year :)

[upper verge]

Probably will have the other around about Tuesday maybe Wednesday latest

[foggy hazel]

my advice is to wait on buying anything, until you have the full budget you plan on using

because things might happen you need the money for

[upper verge]

Im also waiting on my stimulus check...

[foggy hazel]

and frankly put, you cannot eat a case

(well, at least not without needing a hospital visit later on)

With that said @upper verge

you intend to use the system for gaming only?

[pastel briar]

you could technically say with in 6 months (sometimes less) a list made today is wrong at the rate tech advances 😉 and I honestly have to agree with @foggy hazel on holding off until you have your full amount set aside in a "safe zone" away from your normal day to day funds

[upper verge]

Yes

Ill use it a little for stuff like internet browsing as well but i mean not often anything else

[foggy hazel]

(general lifetime on my build list is 3-4 weeks, i dont promise anything beyond that)

so, mainly gaming then?

[upper verge]

Yes

[foggy hazel]

any plans for doing streaming?

[upper verge]

Nope i have the internet for it but i wont do it

[foggy hazel]

fair

[upper verge]

Just gaming and singleplayer maybe do online matches every once in a while

[foggy hazel]

aye aye

[upper verge]

Im a single player junkie

[foggy hazel]

do you need/want wifi?

[upper verge]

I have wifi

[foggy hazel]

or are you using cabled internet?

[upper verge]

Ay my home

I have a ether net cable

Right near by in my room

[foggy hazel]

ok

[upper verge]

Ill do wired

[foggy hazel]

that still leaves the question open thou: do you want wifi on the mainboard? (it generally doesnt cost extra at your budget)

[upper verge]

Nah like i said ill just use ethernet

[foggy hazel]

if you know you wont ever use it, there is no need.

but again, practical to ask :)

[upper verge]

I prefer wired over wireless cause better connection and better speed.

[sudden turret]

depends!

mobos now adays have great connection 🙂

[foggy hazel]

Its a preference i can understand. and it is noted @upper verge

[upper verge]

Hmmm

[sudden turret]

just saying 😄 my pc is wireless, and I get everybit of my 400mbps connection

[upper verge]

Well i mean i still have time but regardless for now im saying no thanks

[foggy hazel]

fair :)

do you have any wishes for the case itself @upper verge ?

pink?

[upper verge]

This is the case i wanted

[foggy hazel]

blue?

etc

fair enough

[pastel briar]

@upper verge agreed, however I would suggest since at your budget level including it as it generally won't be much more if any extra, incase you come up on some unforseen situation where you may have difficulty with the running of wired, its your build, but having the extra option (and a back up) is always a good thing, I don't use wireless on my main rig but I do have it incase something happens to damage the ethernet line between my computer and switch so I can just switch over quickly and not miss a beat while I figure out what's going on with the wired portion of the network, but again it is your build, i am just offering a suggestion to help you out 🙂

[upper verge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6Cyqqs/nzxt-h510-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-h510b-w1

Thank you @pastel briar

[pastel briar]

welcome

[foggy hazel]

let me just take a stab at pulling together a build for you @upper verge , give me 3-4 minutes

[upper verge]

Okay

Please one thing

Before you do

[foggy hazel]

yes?

[upper verge]

And dont think im being an ahole asking this

[foggy hazel]

you are not

[upper verge]

I dont want any parts NVIDIA

Im an AMD guy

[foggy hazel]

any special reason for that?

[upper verge]

I had my very first build was an nvidia and i had nothing but trouble

It was a prebuilt

[foggy hazel]

its your build, so it is your preference

[upper verge]

It was an IBUYPOWER PC

[foggy hazel]

for my personal sake, you can do whatever you want.

But, we are going to have a bit of talk about drivers thou

[upper verge]

K

[foggy hazel]

ill just finish up the bulid, and we can talk after that :)

[upper verge]

Ok

[pastel briar]

@upper verge we here honestly don’t care about the preference, we are here to help you with your rig so if you like amd, cool we will gladly help you out with your build, if you want all intel great, same for nvidia, we are here to help you out the best we can

I like amd for my personal rig, I may be an odd one but I prefer Linux as my OS, same for my server, but if someone wants me to set up a windows server or pc I’ll still help them out as I enjoy helping others 🙂

[foggy hazel]

@upper verge sorry for the delay, had to check up on some details

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GNdkyk

that is a start

[stoic island]

Side note, I can't tell you what to do, and I won't, but it might not be the best idea to associate problems you've had using a pre-built with the components inside, but put the blame on the pre-built company.

[foggy hazel]

give a shout when you have had a look at it @upper verge

[upper verge]

Hmmm

Well wait

If i can ask why Gigabyte?

Newer and more efficient?

[foggy hazel]

because it has a decent cooler on it

and the price is also not bonkers

and you can always ask

[upper verge]

Compared to the one i showed before?

The MSI 5500 XT Gaming 8GB?

[foggy hazel]

the 5700xt at its core, is only about twice as fast as what you had chosen

and a bigger card, needs a bigger cooler

[upper verge]

So the GIGABYTE is faster?

[foggy hazel]

the 5700xt vs the 5500xt is faster

the "brand" (in this case, Gigabyte) doesnt matter all that much

does that make sense?

[upper verge]

Okay now this will be 100% compatible with the case?

Like plenfy enough room and etc?

[foggy hazel]

yes

that case is basically a ballroom inside

[wary tundra]

My sisters boyfriend made a list for her and its 👀

Im going to try to replicate it

[upper verge]

Naed can i ask one more thing?

[stoic island]

I mean you're there to help change it for the better so

[upper verge]

I want to add some RGB fans to this

[foggy hazel]

if that is what you want, have at it

but i will tap out on that part of it. Because i dont deal with RGB stuff at all (if i can prevent it)

[stoic island]

Just a warning, RGB fans might not look as good in that case as there are no fans on the front.

[upper verge]

I just want one or two fans that are RGB in it

[foggy hazel]

the mainboard has a "bit" of RGB on it already

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/TUF-GAMING-X570-PLUS-WI-FI/overview/

[upper verge]

Hmm

[pastel briar]

I would also suggest getting fans that are compatible with Aura sync (I think that is the name of what Asus uses) so you can control the fan rgb with the main board rgb all in one program @upper verge

If you go that route

[upper verge]

Well then i guess ill just deal with what i have thanks to you @foggy hazel

Im gonna put all this together in Newegg

[foggy hazel]

@upper verge 2sec

is there are a reason it has to be all newegg?

[pastel briar]

@foggy hazel well I just ordered longer rail feet to put my rack at the standard 800MM deep....yea this is turning into a dangerous problem 😄

[upper verge]

I want it bought from somewhere reliable

[foggy hazel]

you are going to pay a fair deal extra for that (imo not very practical limitation)

[upper verge]

Plus so i dont have to wait super long

Sometomes stuff will take a week to get to me..

[foggy hazel]

re: wait time: deal with it. At least you can get stuff

and that is not meant in a mean way @upper verge

just that there are plenty of places where 1 week of wait is the minimum, if they are lucky and santa came to town early

[upper verge]

Mmk

[foggy hazel]

things are currently NOT as they used to be.

so expect wait times.

[upper verge]

One last t bi ing i need to make sure

[foggy hazel]

and i can tell you this already: you wont be able to find all the parts on newegg

[upper verge]

This is all for An AM4 right?

[foggy hazel]

they dont have the ssd

they dont have the mainboard either

[upper verge]

Thats what i have to make sure..

[stoic island]

(pcpartpicker shows which sites have the part, and which site has the part for the cheapest.)

[pastel briar]

@upper verge your welcome to go all one place, but there are times when getting things from other venders is a smart move, like when your getting deals on things like with amazon, its always a good thing to look for deals

[foggy hazel]

"This is all for An AM4 right?" <- yes, this is a system that uses the AM4 socket

[upper verge]

K just wanted to make sure

[foggy hazel]

keep the following VERY firmly in mind @upper verge

the following list has a downgrade on the ssd, a downgrade on the mainboard. BUT all the parts on it are available from newegg

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mcCT3t

https://puu.sh/FEDEa/7aa8f79b2e.png

here is the proof of my statement from above

with that said, you have any more questions @upper verge ?

[upper verge]

I have one more

And im sorry to keep pestering

[foggy hazel]

you are not pestering :)

and as i said earlier, ask away

[upper verge]

Mmk thanks so much

Newegg is saying its got a bad rating on that Gigabyte

[foggy hazel]

read the reviews @upper verge

and then please tell me what could explain all the things they are complaining about

@cursive wharf dont spoil it

[cursive wharf]

Awww

[foggy hazel]

@upper verge i will give you a hint, it is something we were supposed to have a talk about :)

[upper verge]

Drivers?

[foggy hazel]

aye

[upper verge]

So just update my driver as soon as i get it

And i wont have issues

[foggy hazel]

kinda-ish

here is the thing with your earlier AMD only statement

back when the 5700xt got released, the drivers ... were not good, not good at all

now? it seems that for most users, it is fine

[upper verge]

Can i ask why?

[foggy hazel]

but "most users" is not "all users"

[wary tundra]

the new drivers are great

[foggy hazel]

ask AMD?

unless you mean it in a different way @upper verge ?

[upper verge]

x.x not gonna lie my head is starting to hurt

[stoic island]

Take your time.

[upper verge]

I mean i have a friend putting this PC together for me

So...

I mean ill be helping a little bit still

[foggy hazel]

@upper verge you have plenty of time, you need to save up the rest of budget. so feel free to come back and ask later on :)

Just please, keep in mind, if you are looking for me specifically, i am NOT in the US, so timezones apply :)

[upper verge]

Mind if i add you as a friend?

?

[stoic island]

Dimitri lmao

[upper verge]

Why all that?

[foggy hazel]

@foggy bough less bs like that please.

[foggy bough]

lol

just messing around

[foggy hazel]

not the place for it

[pastel briar]

Indeed....please not here

[foggy bough]

its 00:29 here sorry just quarantine is making me wanna explode

sorry bois

[pastel briar]

its all good, apology accepted

[wary tundra]

#general-chat

pop off in there

[foggy bough]

ok

[foggy hazel]

@upper verge not at all, and accepted

[fiery viper]

HP Omen 870-224(upgraded):
CPU: i5 7400 @ 3.0GHz
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4 2133
GPU: EVGA GTX 1660 Ti SC Ultra 6GB GDDR6
Storage: 1 TB Samsung 860 QVO SSD, 1 TB Western Digital Blue HDD

or

Case: NZXT H510i
CPU: Intel Core i7 4770 @ 3.4GHz(3.9GHz Turbo)
MoBo: MSI Z97 PC Mate
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 16GB 2133MHz
GPU: EVGA GTX 1660 Ti SC Ultra 6GB GDDR6
Storage: 1 TB Samsung 860 QVO SSD, 1 TB Western Digital Blue HDD

[muted pagoda]

Hi guys

[potent prairie]

@fiery viper Are these direct pre-built from manufacturers? Consider buying the cheapest tiers for at least ram and storage, then you can probably buy better upgrades for cheaper. Like maybe opt for 8 GB of ram, then but aftermarket ram at a higher speed. Probably would be cheaper

[ebon fulcrum]

Is it better to buy parts separately (before it runs out of stock especially during this time) or wait until i have all the money and buy it all at once?

[foggy hazel]

try and cluster things together @ebon fulcrum, it helps ensure that you are not suddenly trying to pay rent with a GPU

[ebon fulcrum]

so like three to four parts at once?

[foggy hazel]

whatever makes financial sense to you

but the main reason (aside from financial) for clustering the purchase, is to avoid things changing too much in the market :)

[ebon fulcrum]

thanks

[mental kraken]

Hi people I had a quick question about motherboards if someone was will to help me come to a final decision on what board would be best for me

[potent prairie]

What's the question?

[mental kraken]

I'm doing my first build. I could care less about video games.
I have an AMD 3900x
Im getting at Gigabyte 2070 RTX Super
w/ 64gb3600 ram

I do video editing to be clear up what im using this for

I need something that can keep up, and won't over heat. I know Asus has been around for quite some time and in previous computers I've had I've never had a problem. But couple people with intel processors recommend gigabyte.

[stoic island]

Trusting a brand is not a good thing to do, each model is different.

[mental kraken]

the powerful gc is for C4D and aftereffects

[foggy hazel]

just about any x570 will do well for you

[stoic island]

(Other than some of the lower end MSI ones)

[mental kraken]

I've heard avoid MSI

[foggy hazel]

@mental kraken this comes to mind as a solid board that is in stock https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dmGnTW/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi

[fiery viper]

@potent prairie These are my 2 current machines(minus the GPU and storage drives) I guess I should have been specific. Which one would be better for gaming and which one would be a better encoding machine for Twitch streaming

[stoic island]

Going off the brand is bad because MSI x570 lineup has been pretty bad so far, but they're about to release an amazing board.

[foggy hazel]

and yes, it has wifi, and no. you are not paying extra for it.

it just comes with the territory of boards in that budget range

[stoic island]

I second that board Naed linked.

[mental kraken]

ya I was looking at the TUF was looking for little more USB port on it.

im a n00b at this so bare with me if I can add this stuff haha

[foggy hazel]

@mental kraken USB hubs are your solution

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41bH-ULDkUL.jpg

see the "teal" coloured usb in that picture?

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41bH-ULDkUL.jpg

there we go

[mental kraken]

last stupid question... but I'm looking for for that would stay cool?

don't want a hot system.

[foggy hazel]

yes, it would stay cool, IF you dont stick everything in a oven of a case

[mental kraken]

haha which should lead me to asking, my next questions... a good case.
I can deal with he rest of the power, and fan hook ups.
But one that's a decent price, with great airflow.... (glass side would be cool. but I'm more about performance)

[foggy hazel]

a fan favorite is Fractal Design Meshify C

or p400A digital something something

[stoic island]

Though I'm realizing a Meshify C works best with better aftermarket fans

[foggy hazel]

that has never NOT been the case @stoic island :)

[stoic island]

Yea, but anyways my favorite cases with good airflow are Phanteks P400a and Coolermaster H500

[mental kraken]

im liking the p400

that fractal design. is that screen or just a solid cover

[foggy hazel]

depends on the model

@stoic island you remember the Stock situation on the p400?

[stoic island]

Non-rgb one chilling in stock afaik