#building-and-recc-chat
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@pastel briar depends entirely on finger strength, plenty of people dont have much of it
Fair enough on that
i have mini vices for fingers myself
Haha
but that is a side effect of the job
I build computers/servers so…
Might explain why my home network is similar to enterprise levels of toys?
Too small for me to get a good grip
which is something normal people have no reason to "know"
Oh my refund check came in finally, time to hunt for a rack mount case 😄
which is something normal people have no reason to "know"
@foggy hazel
Not really sure what you mean by that?
I need a really small wrench
Ah right
its technique vs brute force really
and normal people will mash their fingers into a mess really quickly :)
Hehe that would be funny to watch tho
@kind shuttle got some paper?
@foggy hazel you remind me of a guy named USAFret from Tom's Hardware
you can use that to fold around and make a "hold/wrench"
@fast dust dont know the man :)
I know I’m mean aren’t I…but then again I prefer to keep my “office” in the same room as all the servers
He's helped me a lot, and he talks like you 🤷♀️
:)
Why paper? For grip?
Yea
Wow that works wonders
@fast dust so .. he aint a spring chicken either then :)
what
he isnt young either then :)
You’re talking to techies 😄 @kind shuttle
Oh yeah no probably not @foggy hazel
a couple of decades+ doing things like this, makes you speak in a certain way. at least that is my experience
Must be. He's been on the forum for a long time and he seriously talks super similar to you
I learned overtime to never ask open questions and just get to the point quickly
good, cuz I dont want to post this 24/7
https://dontasktoask.com/
my co-workers/colleagues, know that IF i ask open questions, they should be running
So far this is the most annoying part
Mine know that If I am asking a question to either give me the answer i need or get running fast and to never enter my quiet space called the server room
good colleagues are hard to find, mainly because it takes so long to train them just right
@kind shuttle just a question of technique
Eh?
it IS a budget case
You’d think that with all of the brainpower in the computer industry
there will be some variance
Ah budget case
but generally, just unscrew and try again
Explains all really
aye
Cheaper the lock easier to pick cuz manufacturers do it for cheap
its why very very few technicians will actually skimp on the things they interact with
because they know exactly how annoying it can be
Yup
Right now I feel like hammering them into the table
welcome to what saving 15 bucks feels like @kind shuttle
Like my home server rack 😄
I totally would’ve spent more on the case if I knew this 😦
yes, logically NOW you say that
but i would have had a VERY hard time convincing you of that back then
Not true
:)
One of the holes is the teeniest bit crooked
@wary tundra plays back sound
and depending on the software stack that is installed with it, it can do a bunch of tricks related to sound
better sound quality?
that is part of it yes
but that is dependant on what specific chip is "in" the soundcard
Without the sticker on the SSD, only 'issue' would be heat?
Because my ssd temps are fine
its not an issue as such @stoic island
(Is there anything I might want to do?)
its more of a "what is the supposed purpose/is-there-a-purpose" for the sticker answer
if that makes sense?
Yea.
@stoic island idk what temps you actually have but just consider that there is usually only a temp sensor on the controller and no where else on the SSD
Usually flash likes to be hot so
@kind shuttle any luck?
Unlikely but temps could be bad on say the botton side of SSD where some NAND can be. As for that, usually about 40c or so
afaik hotter then 40c is bad
Hei is talking in general :)
usually sticker does help as a heat transfer device for the top, which could effect bottom
I never looked into it so idk much of what to expect
generally, as long as there is a tiny bit of air flow in the case, everything will be fine
but half my random talk tends to be "what to look out for" rather then proper info
Since the ssd is under the heatsink
Eh some of these standoffs just don’t wanna budge
I mean didnt D15 cool VRMs decently well in one of the recent GN coolers video ?
@kind shuttle you ever worked on a bicycle crank/chainring?
as such probs that SSD as well
Nope
darn, because that could explain the concept a bit easier
One of them is just intent on not moving at all
I remember d15 vrm temps being good..?
lemme take a look again, saw it on the freezer 2 review
which specific one @kind shuttle ?
I’m going to murder every single one of u
oh?
HOW COULD U DO ME LIKE THIS
Excuse me?
i told you to read the manual did i not?
where the tool is listed on
D15 had the best overall VRM thermals excluding Arctic freezer 2.
Reddit saves the day again
there is a "this is contained in the box" list
unless that has been taken out recently
Sometimes manuals don't help with content location :P
I couldn't find the NT-H1 tube with my d15 for a while bc it was packaged in a weird spot
I install motherboard now?
Don't take the wrong meaning from that graph though - 100c would be "hot" for most mosfets
Ur the expert here
i would recommend it
makes things easier for you in the long run IF something is wrong
Would u mind walking me thru it
aye, no problem
get your gpu and psu
aye aye
nah, you can leave it there
Ok
(plus what has been mentioned already)
you are going to want to find the "pin definition" manual part
now, this might sound a bit weird, but you are going to place the mainboard, so that when the GPU is plugged in, the "metal bracket" on it, goes "into" the gap there is at either end of the mainboard box
make sense?
Kind of
try and then post a picture :)
Wdym by gap at the end of the box
the mainboard box, should have a gap in the cardboard, when it is closed
between the lid and the edge/side of the box
see where you mainboard
right next to the backplane (where the usb ports are) there is slight "gap"
The tool I was referring to @kind shuttle
that is where the bracket goes
Crazy plane the case came w the tip of that tool that u can use screwdriver w
But thanks
Can u possible draw an arrow on the picture showing me
Naed
2sec Atlas :)
Thanks
(and internet ofc takes this moment to be flaky as all heck, so IF i dont post for a bit, just have paitence. i am not going anywhere)
Ok, I was posting it as I said I would 😉
no problem, I am here to help as I can 😄
Where’s the best place to get a cheap windows key
Ebay
Reason: Bad word usage
some just asked me if i wanted a 750 ti for 50 $ isnt that card like dodo
@kind shuttle excuse the dust, random piece of museum hardware from the storage closet that i pulled out
notice how the edge of the card in the picture goes "into" the gap?
your gpu goes into the first big slot on the mainboard
Ah
some just asked me if i wanted a 750 ti for 50 $ isnt that card like dodo
@vivid coral
Its not great. I wouldnt get it. If you need a budget card I would look for a used 580 8gb on ebay
If its under 100 that is
Naed I don’t get where to plug gpu into mainboard
no when i buy my gpu itl be like a 2060 ersum
i was wodering if it was evn worth humoring it
I see where the metal part goes into the box
@kind shuttle you see how you have 3 horizontal slots on your mainboard right?
2 big and one 1 small
Yes
because that would not enable others to learn anything @vivid coral
@kind shuttle check the pins on your GPU, is there a protective cover on?
Yes taking them off now
Wait
There’s covers for the hdmi and DP ports
Oh found it @foggy hazel
:)
Now what
got the GPU installed in the mainboard?
Yep
with the bracket in the gap?
Yep
The page telling me what part of the board is what? Yes
There’s also a QR code for detailed pin definitions
Should I need that
well, i can show you here what you need
that is the actual pin out of the 9 pins
do you know "where" on the mainboard that is?
Yes
the only two pins we care about right now, are pins number 3 and 4 in the upper row (counting from left to right)
The Led- ones?
Wait
I was looking at it the other way
What are the pins labeled
The ones ur talking about
(not trying to be mean here, but it makes everything (later on) easier if you tell me which pins you think i am talking about)
look at the picture above
Power and ground on the 1st row
yes
Ok
now, there are 2 ways to activate them (and yes, this is on purpose that we are talking about it now, before the PSU is plugged in)
way number 1: plug in the actual power button from the case
way number 2: use a screw driver and bridge those 2 pins (this has the same effect as pressing the power button on the case)
it is entirely your choice which one you want to do
no, on purpose that nothing is
Ok
Just checking
Which way is more idiot proof or safer
If such a thing exists for this
because i didnt want you to "skip ahead" and decide running a screwdriver randomly across the board (if there was power connected) was a brilliant idea
I figured that wasn’t a good idea
as long as your hand is steady, the screwdriver is safe enough
after you are not playing around with the pc anymore
Hehe
then you can play all you want with the fork and the socket
okay, so now you know what comes AFTER we connect the psu
and just to check, but you have screwed in your PSU to the case right?
Yea that’s what the case manual said to do first
aye aye, no worries
Later realized that was less convenient
just move the mainboard box assembly over next to the case, and we can start figuring out what cables go where
I’m ready
Got that
that should be a 20+4 pin bugger
Yep
it might come "assembled" or it might come as a 20+4
That’s the main power to board right
aye it is
Yep
between the heatsinks up there
Yea
and then you have the PCI-e plugs
those are 6+2
all the plugs have latches
trigger those and just grip the plug and gently pull
found the 6+2 plug?
aye, that is for the GPU
i cannot remember if your GPU requires 6 or 8 pin
It has 8 openings
if 8, then yes, just next to each other, there might be a very small "guide" rail on the plug itself (to help you push them in at the same time)
Is that important
(this is something that has a habit of changing over time)
as long as the plug goes in, it doesnt matter
but some plugs will not allow you to plug the 6pin and then the 2 pin
if that makes sense
the combined 8 pin only go in "one" way
there is also a latch on that one (normally)
okay
now plug in the monitor to the GPU
whatever cable you want (hdmi/dp/whatever)
Ok
does he have a usb for wd10
Ok dp cable is plugged in
i no but hes getting close
@kind shuttle connect the powercord to the psu
I don’t need to worry about the other psu cables?
then just touch the 2 pins we talked about earlier, and the system should boot
What was the other option?
plugging in the cable from the case
Lemme double check I’m using right pins
It’s the last two on first row right
the ones right next to the "missing" pin
Yep
with the label "PWR BTN" in the picture above
Do I have to turn psu on
just touch and remove screwdriver
I didn’t do that
yes, if it isnt done :)
things should be spinning
and after a bit, the display should come on
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9x7J27 So I'm planning to get all the parts that aren't marked as purchased, feel free to change to see which seems best! I'd just want to know if that's the best list I can do for that price, an extra 50-100$ is fine.
oh my
yo hes helping him build a pc rn hold off
very expensive fans
Nah it’s fine
and now you can just disconnect the PSU from both the mainboard and the mainboard and the GPU
Chat isn’t moving that fast 😂
Oh I'm super sorry, is there a different chat I can go to
dont worry about it
You sure
aye
Totally fine
@stoic island Yeah, I wanted to match the fans on the AIO
@kind shuttle when things are disconnected, and the GPU has been unplugged from the mainboard again (REMEMBER there is a latch on the mainboard for the GPU)
it will be time for you to put the mainboard into the case
Also, anything cheaper than that price listed for my list would be awesome.
I mean, if you lose the 3 ML fans, you can get a better build for sure..
grab the Pure Base 500 DX case instead.
Naed, not in stock anywhere I can tell
Where can I get a cheap wd10
Alright
Key
Is the ryzen 5 3600 worth it
@stoic island ah, its in stock over here :)
they sell cheep keys from china but u need the wnd insatller form wid
Well the one in stock is horrible priced here
Naed where u from
Denmark
Nice
Yeah, super expensive @stoic island
I gotta watch the pure base 500 review again to see if it was alright
all I remember was 500dx was quite a bit better but
I'd like to know if it would be okay to cheap out a little bit and get the 5700XT MSI Mech model
Because it's cheaper, would it be worth it
see pm @kind shuttle
I mean, just a quick look at the first two sentence of the GN review
So no on the pure base 500?
lets ask like this instead: Is there any reason you want to spend another 100 usd to "fix" a case?
No
I'd rather change for a different case.
The pure base 500 stock is pretty low on the chart
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811854085 would that be better?
I believe so
the p400a digital is one of the best airflow cases for the ~100$ range, but trying to see if the non-rgb one is the same case.
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811139148 I do quite like that
I was about to say 😂
diypc visionii-bl black usb 3.0 steel/ tempered glass atx mid tower case is it worth it
OOS rn tho
@obtuse frost it has a arse first RGB system
The diypc case fans look a little weird ot me.
i have had the "joy" of guiding someone through building in it
i would strongly prefer NOT doing that agian
lmao
I don’t know much about PCs and I need to know what’s a decent case and not too expensive
naw we all know you'd LOOOVE to help someone with it again
that case is not worth the headache you will have building in it @obtuse frost
I was gonna go with the H510 because I like the look but people said it has bad airflow
Okay thank you @foggy hazel
you are very welcome @obtuse frost :)
hello, would anyone be willing to see if my pc is good?
So would the 275R airflow be good?
tbh i dont know what im doing lol
@next tangle should be alright if it's at a good price
Alright
@gloomy rivet I assume you use PCPP?
yep
Any other recommendations for the case?
should i send the link?
DM me the list and I'll send it on your behalf
@gloomy rivet the bot will eat your link :)
oh i see
@gloomy rivet 's list
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9T3p8M
So everything else on my list will be fine?
ty @stoic island
you are not in the US @gloomy rivet ?
oh i am
@next tangle there are plenty of other things that could be "fixed"
is there a role assign thing?
Oh, like what?
How come?
@next tangle quick run down: fans, aio, ssd, hdd, gpu
overpriced, not needed, and depending on other changes, you have budget room for something much faster
@gloomy rivet not really :)
is that about the ssd?
thats about the ssd, hdd, and the gpu, in that order @next tangle
oh oke
ohh
@gloomy rivet any idea about where you are going to get the case from?
Well, I want the 3TB of storage because I'm a editor, renderer, youtuber and a gamer
oh, i bought it already @foggy hazel
Because I chewed up 1TB like a breeze.
Im building my first pc and its very budget for work and occasional light gaming just wanted to get some thoughts on if there is anything I still need and anything in here I should avoid or any other thoughts (please don't roast me it my first time I tried)
Processor (CPU)
I5 3470t
Motherboard (MOBO)
Gigabyte
Graphic Card (GPU)
Gigabyte geforce gtx
Memory (RAM)
Crucial 8gb ram
Storage (SSD or HDD)
Wd5000bpkt 500gb 7200rpm
Power Supply Unit (PSU)
Corsair 550w VS series
CPU Cooler
Cooler Master ma410p
PC Case.
Corsair Carbide Series 110R
@gloomy rivet noted :)
And got external storage again, 1TB and chewed it up like a breeze.
@modest kraken please make a pcpp link
I don't really want to change from the 5700XT since this is a gradual upgrade so I'm buying the GPU first.
they are "guide rails" from a bygone era @kind shuttle
what is a pcpp link
Should I go with the MSI Mech 5700XT?
@gloomy rivet can you tell us what you already bought?
Can I bend them out of the way @foggy hazel
@kind shuttle aye
Because there can be better options for most of the parts on that list
@foggy hazel Should I get the MSI Mech 5700XT?
just be certain you dont bend them into a position that makes them poke something in the fixed IO shield
lol, everything but i can always return i didnt know about the server until recently
oops
Alright so I just helped my brother upgrade his pc and the only thing we kept was the cpu, hdd and ssd. Now we're getting nothing but input not supported on our acer monitor. We've re seated the gpu, and ram and still no. I'm thinking its a driver issue or just the monitor. Anyone have an idea?
Well um
thats unfortunate :/
@gloomy rivet please dont take this the wrong way. But a lot of the parts are really overpriced or badly specced for the other parts
Naed, I feel it's prob worth returning 2600 for a 3600, then returning ram for ripjaw v 3600mhz kit, and maybe save some money on the ssd, and a better GPU?
@stoic island Why isn't the AIO right for me?
all of it goes back imo @stoic island
maybe aside from the Optix
and potentially the case, depending on the price
I remember that case being a good cost
@gloomy rivet could you tell us the price you paid for the case?
let me check
@stiff adder you are currently at the back of the queue, but recheck your cables, all of them.
about 100
Just as a reference, this is close to what I would be suggesting you buy at a similar price. @gloomy rivet
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Cd6bZf
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MdCW7T so I changed the list some more, anything else I should change?
@next tangle the "detail" about your build is that generally, it is just mismatched like heck.
Oh, how's it mismatched?
does it seem like i would have to return everything?
please read over what both @stoic island and myself have been saying @next tangle
Can’t seem to get my board to push right next to the IO shield
let me grab a link for you @gloomy rivet
If you look at the list I sent, that is the performance you Could be getting at the same price
give me 2 minutes @kind shuttle
damn it i should have found this server earlier before buting
The io shield may not be pushed in all the way @kind shuttle
buying
Ok
Would the cpu (1600af) on an x570 be the problem?
Oh @foggy hazel sorry, I didn't see anything you guys were saying to me because you guys were also helping other people so I got confused who you guys were talking to.
I'll just ping to make things easier to see
Should all of the ports in the rear of the board b even with the IO shield?
@gloomy rivet this is the "pretty" comparison https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2544?vs=2516
GPU 2019 benchmarks: Compare two products side-by-side or see a cascading list of product ratings along with our annotations.
im just worried i wont be able to return now at this point
@next tangle Buying AIO is usually a bad decision for price to performance
@gloomy rivet ignore the summary at the top, but that is just the GPU difference between that Mr1111 linked and what you linked
Oh, why is that? @stoic island
Naed are the mobo ports supposed to b flush w the IO shield
@next tangle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VzXHUTqE7E <- start there.
We're answering the question of whether "liquid cooling or air cooling is better," ft. the Noctua NH-D15, Deepcool Assassin III, NZXT Kraken X62 / X72 (280mm, 360mm), and more.
Sponsor: Buy Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut on Amazon (https://geni.us/1D8Eeq) or Hydronaut paste (htt...
watch all of it, that willl answer that question.
alright, watching it
damn thats a big difference
@gloomy rivet sorry mate
well i know the msi monitor is definitely a keep right?
@kind shuttle lets have a look
hmmm i dont know if ill be able to return everything actually oof
Also another warning, some margins might look really high in the video, but that's because everything is grouped together, so a big difference in the chart could just be 2c difference @next tangle
thats a bummer lol
so try not to skip around without reading and listening
alright @stoic island
@kind shuttle the IO shield is supposed to "snap" into the case (kinda like you can see on the right hand side in your picture above)
It is snapped in
One thing, the fans I picked are 2 packs, I chose 3 because 3x2 is 6 and 6 fans are supported in the case.
It’s fine if there’s a tiny gap between IO and motherboard?
@gloomy rivet i would strongly recommend having a serious look at what you can return and what you cant. And to make certain it is clear. The case and the monitor are keepers.
@kind shuttle look at the standoffs
if you have access to them, then everything is okay
Ok
@foggy hazel Thanks. I'll look into it thanks for the help
@kind shuttle sidenote: just like the CPU cooler, just get the first screw to catch in the standoff
@gloomy rivet you are very welcome, sorry we couldnt give you more happy news
@stiff adder still there?
alright, so what I'm getting out of this video is I should go with an air cooler?
thanks forks
its been 11 minutes
Lmao
that is a 30-ish minute video
Naed what’s next
I meant that as at 12 minutes in
After mobo is in
In my opinion, there is only 1 acceptable AIO for medium budget, and that is Arctic freezer 2, so that's an option if you REALLY REALLY want AIOs.
but @next tangle but you really should watch the whole thing, not just the first bit, the last 10 minutes or so they talk about ups and downs of both air and water.
@kind shuttle got the mainboard screwed in ?
Yep!
Okay, thanks @stoic island
there are a bunch of cables "in" the case that needs to be connected to the mainboard
plus power cords ofc @kind shuttle
Yea I see those
some of the cables are fairly obvious, they can only go in "one" location
Are there ones that are better to do first for cable management
whatever you want really
Ok
cable management is something that is done diferently from person to person
so, you do you :)
where exactly are you connecting the monitor?
@stiff adder
@modest kraken you trying to post a link?
ya
send it to me instead, the bot will keep on eating it (its spam prevention)
no need to laugh at that.
lmaooooo
we need the other link 🙂
naed I only see 2 chassis fan connector
only reason tomahawk max is b450m pro is outta stock and placeholder, before anyone asks.
Where can I put the 3rd
it needs a splitter that we have forgotten @kind shuttle that is my mistake
wait naed what board is it?
Pro Gaming
fan only needs 3 pins but connector has 4 is that fine
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8gnBYH for @modest kraken
thank you @sudden turret was in a DM talk with him about it
@kind shuttle yes
Yay got everything more or less moved into the server rack, the IBM server is chugging along with Folding at home
and give me a bit @kind shuttle , i will find a link for a splitter
I dont really know wich mother board to get
oh no it's okay
You look thrilled @pastel briar
Naed will probably help you
so what should i do
@foggy hazel what type of splitter is being requested?
@buoyant flame I am just not a photogenic person 😄
A320 is not the right chipset for intel, and the wrong socket too.
Yes I am wearing my IBM shirt 😄
:)
@pastel briar please read the chat :)
I believe they need a 4pin fan splitter.
i have no clue what that means
@foggy hazel I am trying to, chat keeps bumping as im trying to read it 😄
ah the trusty 4 pin
Alright @foggy hazel soooooo. We put in a 2200g with a 5700xt, didn't work. Then just the 2200g, nothing. Thennn! We put in the old 1050, and it booted straight to windows off our old boot drive(ssd). I'm lost.
Alright, the video is over.
is this for me or someone else
@stiff adder sounds like missing power
what should i get instead of the a320 if i have a intel chip
@modest kraken i honestly dont know quite where to even logically begin with you
is it all a mess
@modest kraken what are you looking to do and what features do you need/want?
@foggy hazel LMAOOOO
only the cpu and hard drive
The power is four 6 pins turning into two 8 pins. 2 6 pins per 8 pin. The connectors came with the 5700xt
@kind shuttle the link @pastel briar posted, IF it shows stock on your end, that works)
i just wanna be able to get work done and play some games like rocket league or madden
And both blue lights are on on the gpu
Anyone know what are some good fans?
@modest kraken long story short is this: the cpu you have is really old
as in, it got introduced to the world 8 years ago
it is not that we cannot find the parts
oh
since he already owns 2 of the things on that list, he could take away those from the list to bring the price down then add like a 3200G
just that it would NOT be worth doing so for you @modest kraken
well right now, get a 3300G
does that make sense @modest kraken ?
but then he has an a320 motherboard..
i can get a different motherboard
Naed does the front IO power cable go into the F panel
well what's your budget for the build? @modest kraken
including a monitor im guessing
@stiff adder just because the connectors came with the GPU does not mean they have to ALL go in
about 550
alright
plus the monitor
and what do you currently own?
nothing this is all new to me
@next tangle would you please stop repeating my questions and cluttering the chat with useless stuff?
@kind shuttle picture please
@stoic island you got time to make a low budget machine for @modest kraken ?
550 usd it seems
How low budget are we talking?
could you jump to ... #cpus-mobo-and-memory and do it there?
Me?
yes please
Alright.
seems like there is a certain amount of random traffic in this one tonight
guess no one is going to answer the question so i can put a budget build together.....oh well
Definitely
Wait naed, do you know if 1600af price coming back down to usual?;;
oml I'm battling my keyboard it keeps typing ;
@pastel briar it was just above your question :)
i dont think it is likely mr1111
but factor in the 3300x
its right around the corner afterall
ugh do we have release date for that?
I might take a second with my keyboard
; might be stuck
We're expecting to get these CPUs in for testing sometime soon. They are set to be launched in May.
I wasnt sure if that was the absolute max or if that was there "I really don't want to spend more then, but $X amount is really the ceiling for my build that I can spend"
you guys can take that up with @modest kraken
Is there a channel where I can ask for help at?
@stable ledge in theory here
a bit of a queue at the moment, so please have patience :)
ill take any suggestions
Yeah so I built a PC a couple weeks ago for my brother and it boots up fine, works fine, but crashes after like an hour or so
Nonstop BSOD's
Only ordered the parts a few months ago, have had them sitting in a box until recently
wat do
need a lot more details to offer anything. Lets start with you making us a pcpp list please.
My assumption rn is the mobo or CPU is shitting itself, but leaning more toward mobo
Yeah I can do that rn
but as mentioned, that is just so there is info for someone to work with
a bit busy myself at the moment
@stable ledge do you have a picture or screen cap of the BSOD error (stop code)?
if you can send them I can at least start helping you
@stiff adder okay, a bit of time now.
you said something about a dm in the middle of all of that?
kernel security check failure, page fault in nonpage area, memory management, IRQL not less than equal, system service exception, system thread exception not handled
@foggy hazel when u get a moment I could use some help
ask away @kind shuttle
I’m connecting front IO cables to F panel
IRQL is typically a drivers issue, but having the screen shots so i can see exact codes will help (you can dm them so its not cluttering the chat here)
remember the 9 pin connector from earlier
@foggy hazel for the mess that i have what should i be looking at changing
@modest kraken @stoic island is currently looking into it for you
oh thanks
@kind shuttle http://puu.sh/FEfm5/0cb061216e.png
there usually is a Reset + and RESET - (or if power, sometings it may Pwr+ PWR-) that your reset/power switches should go to
Naed, I was trying to figure stuff out with a replacement lower end option from a 1600af, can't find much right now... My keyboard is acting up, I'm gonna try and open it up and take a look, is it alright I leave them with you @foggy hazel ?
Naed the problem is which way the power button connector goes
It doesn’t say which pin is pwr and which is ground
On the cord that comes from the button I mean
on the back of the connector itself, there will be a small "mark" on one side
@kind shuttle
that is the "positive"
There’s a little triangle
wait the pc i got sent wouldnt work lol
@kind shuttle yes
sure
@kind shuttle its really simple, when everything is up and running, if the reset button doesnt work? flip the connector.
ofc you can
Is there a trick to making the pins stay
experience
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($187.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($68.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($73.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($163.40 @ Amazon)
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@stable ledge send that as the actual link to me instead, and i will post it on behalft of you
sent
on behalf of @stable ledge https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3DXzsk
Would you say the MSI B450 Tomahawk mobo is good? In my (1000 Pc budget doe ;-;)
@stable ledge you are at the back of the queue at the moment, so please have patience
Oh apologies lol
well whoever was having the BSODs I was waiting for the screen shots so I could help you.....guessing you no longer need the assistance?
question, so I have 2 versions of windows installed, how can I delete one
could I just use partition tool, i also want to get rid of the drive select thing on startup
@stable ledge what PSU?
what do you suggest for a AMD Ryzen 5 3600 cpu?
b450m Pro Gaming, normally 95-100 usd
@kind shuttle having luck with it?
any suggestions
@next tangle stick to one channel.
i accidentally sent a message in the other channel
@sullen spoke yes and editing the selector is the simple solution
@sullen spoke do yourself a big favour thou, have a windows install usb ready when you do it :)
np
Naed I think I’m almost done
oh?
Cable management is a little messy but part of that is the non modular psu
aye, that is the tradeoff
I kinda just zip tied the extra ones to the thing where the hard drive is usually mounted
aye aye
So they’re at the bottom out of the way
The F panel connectors were a pain in the toosh
the only one that the cabling matters for is you
True
the hardware doesnt give a toss
What do I do now
and yes, front panel connectors are .. interesting ...
got the GPU plugged in again?
try and power it on again (with the monitor plugged in)
just to check that things are actually working
Ok
@foggy hazel yuppers, got it, thanks
because the next step is closing it all up and plugging things in and getting the windows install started
np @pastel briar
@stable ledge you have driver issues, you need to boot to safe mode (F8 typically) and then log into your admin account, then once in safe mode go to your device manager and right click and check for updated drivers
after that run the following commands, SFC and CHKDSK to repair corrupted system files and bad sectors
Type: sfc /scannow and hit Enter; Let the program complete the scanning process so as to find and repair corrupted system files.
After that, type: chkdsk <your OS drive letter here>: /f /r /x and hit Enter
EXAMPLE: chkdsk C: /f /r /x and hit Enter
Sorry for the wall of text, hope it helps, if you can do that and then let us know we can take it from there but mostlikely based on your Bsods this should be all that is needed
@foggy hazel how do I check it’s working w out the screwdriver thing
Monitor is hooked up
Can I put links in this chat?
Opps I did it again..... orders rack mount case for PC build
if you hooked up the front panel, then the power button works @kind shuttle
@raw igloo if relevant, yes
if your PC turned on after pushing the button for power it is working as expected @kind shuttle
cheers YAY!!!
Hello. My friend recently purchased this pc 😦 https://www.staples.com/cyberpowerpc-gamer-master-gma60-gaming-desktop-computer-amd-ryzen-3-2300x/product_24394735 (I tried to make him build one but he was stubborn.) I noticed the GPU is hot garbage for "Gaming". I was wondering if he could upgrade it and what could he upgrade it to for under 200$?
check that your reset button works @kind shuttle
What should it do when I hit it
ok then let it fully boot and log in and play around
It did
there isnt a OS there yet @pastel briar
I have the installer usb
grab a keyboard and mouse
Got it
@foggy hazel ah didn't know the OS wasn't installed yet, my bad
(the 4 second thing is a way to teach something, without it feeling like that)
because it is 100% not needed
yea, I asked that originally not relizing the OS wasn't installed yet
@kind shuttle plug in the usb and boot from it
USB plugged in and it’s on
Now what
Shouldn’t I check to see it recognizes all the things
Ssd, ram etc
Nvm it says that
One question
restart the PC and boot into the USB drive, (you can also use the BIOS [Press DEL on most PCs or what ever key is designated by your mainboard mfg] to tell the system to one time boot to the USB drive)
If I have 3600 speed ram why does it say 2133 on screen
you have to go into BIOS to set the XMP profile
but for now were just trying to get you running, XMP can be set later
Crazy plane no offense but I’m gonna let naed take the lead on this
lul
its 04:20 in the morning here :)
nice
oh my
Did a fresh windows install and having driver issues. Getting a NVIDIA INSTALLER CANNOT CONTINUE when trying to install the latest drivers for my 2080 super. Any insight?
Possible driver conflict, you may need to run the DDU and wipe old drivers off to correct
then reinstall using GeForce experience
Do I press f1 to start setup? Or do I hit delete key
Possible driver conflict, you may need to run the DDU and wipe old drivers off to correct
@pastel briar even in a fresh windows installation?
Delete doesn’t seem to do anything
how fresh are we talking?
Like brand new nvme drive with brand new windows just booted up. Only drivers installed is the Lan
Fresh fresh lol
you kinda have to be quick on the ball some time, some boards may be F1 instead, but basically we just need to boot into the BIOS, or have the system auto boot to USB to install windows
Ok so restart and mash delete?
@empty patio is the RTX card installed currently, all power connectors hooked up correctly, and are you using the GeForce software, or the drivers disk that came with the card?
@kind shuttle if the system does not auto boot to USB yes we can restart and "mash" the del key (just below insert)
@kind shuttle its f2 on your board (for getting to bios)
and thank you @pastel briar
likewise when you get there.
@foggy hazel your welcome good sir/madam 🙂
I tried it with both buttons and it didn’t seem to do anything
check your manual @kind shuttle
Right
please note were only giving general advice/suggestions, referring to the manual will be best to ensure were on the correct path
@empty patio is the RTX card installed currently, all power connectors hooked up correctly, and are you using the GeForce software, or the drivers disk that came with the card?
Yeah installed correctly. Card was tested on previous build earlier today, downloaded new drivers from Nvidia website.
Can someone Ping me when your ready to help Me?
can you take a screen shot of the error your getting @empty patio
@raw igloo what was your query?
My friend recently purchased this pc 😦 https://www.staples.com/cyberpowerpc-gamer-master-gma60-gaming-desktop-computer-amd-ryzen-3-2300x/product_24394735 (I tried to make him build one but he was stubborn.) I noticed the GPU is hot garbage for "Gaming". I was wondering if he could upgrade it and what could he upgrade it to for under 200$?
Gt 1030 btw
yes he can upgrade it, as to what, might be slim pickings if that is all he has for a budget at the moment
What about the Psu
good @kind shuttle
Its a prebuilt doesnt even show the brand or wattage
@kind shuttle your pic is a bit blurry but it looks like lower right is boot options? click that and select USB
Make sure you didn’t get laptop series
Crazy there’s 2 options for the USB for some reason
Nope verified it was the desktop drivers
@empty patio ok it looks like your using the disk based driver installer, which IMO is hot garbage, also if that is the laptop GPU installer that will not work on a desktop card
use this instead, should have better results and get the correct driver https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/geforce-experience/
@kind shuttle yes F8 boot menu looks to be what we need, then select USB
NVIDIA GeForce Experience Auto Update Drivers and Optimize Game Settings
just take the one that reads UEFI: USB and drag to top of the list
UEFI: USB is the one you want to select
I clicked it
looks to be the middle one
then hit OK, APPLY, YES, RESTART (what ever the button reads)
Got it
@kind shuttle if your house is on fire please, exit immediately, call 911 and request the FD to come put the fire out
@deft zephyr is that your I really don't want to spend more then this budget, or is that your hard cealing I can't spend more then this budget?
@empty patio ok it looks like your using the disk based driver installer, which IMO is hot garbage, also if that is the laptop GPU installer that will not work on a desktop card
use this instead, should have better results and get the correct driver https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/geforce-experience/
@kind shuttle yes F8 boot menu looks to be what we need, then select USB
@pastel briar
Attempting this now
NVIDIA GeForce Experience Auto Update Drivers and Optimize Game Settings
crazy plane what?
@empty patio ok, good, also you don't need to quote every thing, just @ me with your response as needed is fine
i did not understand the question at all
@deft zephyr what is your absolute max budget allowed for the build?
Can I put the panels on now
@kind shuttle yes if you wish
@deft zephyr so $1400 max? got ya
ideally 1300
Crazy my house isn’t on fire but I appreciate the frankness of ur response
I can assure u my first move would NOT be to alert the discord that my house is burning
@kind shuttle your welcome my good sir (or mis?)
Sir
I have seen some dumb people in the past so that is why I said what I did 😄
What type of install do I want
Reason: Bad word usage
picture just so I can see what you see?
@deft zephyr ok, I got ya, I will get you a build once I clear my current queue and have a moment to think of good parts
k
custom, then delete any partitions, and then format as needed (WARNING: CLEARING AND DELEATING PARTITIONS WILL DESTROY ALL DATA ON THE DRIVE!!!! DO THIS WITH CAUTION)
I have no data
make sure you are NOT selecting the USB drive (theroretically it shouldn't let you
again that is just a general warning as a im not responcible if any thing goes wrong as i warned ya
ok good, hit "new" then just hit ok, then ok and let windows do its thing
at least we are making progress @kind shuttle
Do I hit apply or change amount of storage
picture?
@pastel briar
@kind shuttle what version of windows are you installing?
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