#building-and-recc-chat
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Ok so gpu, Mobo, psu is installed....
they are close to 280 aud combined
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/hs9kmg @stoic island
with the mouse and keyboard added
@meager relic NOW you're cooking with gas, I just finished a ton of quests 
Thank you so much
don't forget to plug in the wires from the front of your case
@fair river we are not remotely done yet
or sorry
nothing to be sorry about
@stoic island how come you recommend the 3600 2080s for me and 2070s and 3700x for him?
what would be the monitor
I see
Naed, I'm trying to choose between these two, thoughts on the AOC one?
lol my start menu won't open
I know g241 is good, but idrk about aoc
let me just recheck the sheet on the AOC, give me a min
kk. take your time.
Mr1111 What rank are you
@stoic island it seems decent enough
well the monitor be 1 ms
and 50 aud is not pocket change
i dont mind
like your main server
Ryoku can you DM me
like rainbow six siege
NICE
huh
suggestion for the mainboard @stoic island
Yes?
Huh
slap that in I guess, one sec.
I'm just not familiar with x470 so I usually don't look
and a fair bit over now
What do you mean?
budget
I thought it was 3k aud total including perph.?
2800 no?
oh shoot
@fair river total budget with everything?
I was not paying attention xD
lets just recheck
Yeah the budget is 2800
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/v4XDTC <- thats the simple adjustment to get it back down
ok thanks
Naed, might want to change it to a p1 so no newegg shenanigans
Fair enough
what is with the Warning thing with the motherboard
okie
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/JdNdzN <- that is my suggestion for what to go with now, and then perhaps have a chat about upgrading the monitor a bit with the rest of the budget
@stoic island comments?
@foggy hazel any input on that build i just put up? gonna be selling my pc to my friend soon and building a new one so looking for some input
not before i am done working on the current one
k
Is there a certain chat on this discord to ask questions?
@fair river i think the one above is the most sane suggestion we have.
keep in mind, IF you dont buy in the, at max, 3 weeks time, please come back and ask again
@cinder geode depends on the topic
PC has been stuttering on MW and when it stutters, CPU goes up to 100% and Corsair iCue freezes during the stutter
Running a i5 9600k with RTX 2070 super and 16 gigs of ram
Don’t know why I should be stuttering
tried running without iCue active?
Yes - still stutters and goes to 100% usage but when iCue is inactive the fans don’t stutter anymore
And by fans stuttering I just mean the RGB
@celest horizon you around?
sup
was it you or Box that commented on something like the above a couple of weeks back?
ah yes, because i am the same in regards to RGB
dont deal with it, if i can avoid it
Oh I like rgb, but I'd rather diy with ws2812b strips or 100W led chips
Not worried about RGB stuttering when MW stutters, more worried about why MW is stuttering on a i5 9600k and a 2070 super
How would you describe stuttering
@sudden turret you around?
Freezes for about a second of gameplay every now and then
Maybe every 3 minutes or so the game freezes for about 1 second
could use your help here for a machine that is acting up
box goes to sleep around 8 lol, best not to ping him too late
too late :)
are you on the newest nvidia driver or an older one?
and with that, i am out.
I have MSI afterburner open in background showing me all my usage and RAM is only at around 60% usage at time of stutter but CPU spikes to 100% right when it stutters
does the cpu clock speed drop a lot during the stutter?
i'd assume its something with the game then, but im not really that good with stutter solutions
I’ve looked up a few things and one thing suggested disabling Corsair iCue SDK and another thing suggested getting more ram and some other place suggested getting a processor with more threads?? So I really don’t know what to do anymore
And what’s weird is it’s only with modern warfare campaign
Never had any stuttering problems on any other game, including modern warfare multiplayer and warzone
No comments Naed, was doing some minecraft lol
Hated Corsair iCue ever since I installed it, I shouldn’t have installed it
@foggy hazel didn't want to annoy you to much more than I have done so... So I asked ryoku to help me with connectors..... What you think?
Hey I'm new to pc building and me and my dad want to build a pc for racing simulator games such as Project Cars 2, F1 2019, Forza Horizon etc. We have a 55-inch 1080p tv and we are looking for a build around 1200 or under. If any of you have any suggestions it would be appreciated. Thank you!
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mr1111/saved/PkmBcf
this might just work
@stoic island what could you send me the link again
Thoughts on monitors?
Plan to do dual monitors.
I have no clue about them though. Just saw these at an fair price. Buying 2..
Comparing:
- AOC CQ32G1 31.5” QuadHD 144hz $350
- MSI OPTIX AG32C 31.5” HD 165hz $300
3)AOC C32V1Q 32” HD 60hz $180
@polar goblet I heard the OPTIX is a good one
Thoughts on budget build i might do CPU-ryzen 5 1600AF GPU- RX 580 8gb 16gb ddr4 and etc...
it's a pretty decent budget build
do you think there is any cheaper options for gpus
Or is that perfect for the budget type
you'd still have to pick out the case, motherboard, and PSU
for a little more you can actually get a lot more performance out of a 1660
ok
the price to performance value is about the same between them
but if you can't spare the money the 580 is a decent card
Ok real talk. I wanna get r9 3900x for the overkill but don't wanna get the 3950x. However, if i had a budget, would the r7 3800x be better
Ping me with a response I'm finna sleep
Depends on the workload
Gaming, lol
If you need the extra cores then go with the 3900x
But like i said I'm going overkill on purpose
But for gaming 3800x alllll the way
3800x gives basically the same performance
Way better price to performance
Unless you need the extra cores and threads
3700x and spend the money on a better cooler rather then base clocks that're basically meaningless due to CPU boost
or even use stock cooler with a good paste
the prism handles the 3700X very well in most work loads, including gaming that uses all cores
60% usage on all cores and at 75C isn't bad, not as good as it could be with a better cooler, but with gaming 60% total usage is like the very fringe gaming workloads
most games will be 4 cores or less for heavy use of any given thread
@stoic island would that build be able to hit 144fps at ultra?
And what about if I wanted to lower the budget to 1300
the Ryzen 5 and 2070 super build?
yea that will definitely to ultra 1080p 144Hz
it could do 1440p Ultra 144Hz in a lot of titles too
but in more extreme titles that have absolutely BONKERS settings on ultra probably not
No the 3600 with 2080 super @eager chasm
Ik most likely but just wanna make sure
Or i might consider 2070s with 3600x with less cheaping out on some components
Looking for peak gaming preformance
the system with a 2080 would perform better in gaming
Aight
any recommendations for a 1080p 144fps build that can also occationally stream for as close to 1000$ as can be (new or refurbished parts)
@ me if u do so i can see pls
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v6QXWb @little osprey this is a decent streaming build
I wish I had just a bit more money, because I honestly would love to have a 2060 Super instead of settling for a 1660 Super.
@foggy hazel couldmy power issues be my cheap led lights plugged into the USB. I have every USB slot powering something
WiFi adapter
Lights
Digital tablet
Wireless mouse
Wireless keyboard
@fiery pier everything works on the spare PSU right?
and hello agian @fiery pier :) you went quiet yesterday :)
you didn't tell us you had your whole house plugged into your pc
you should have stated.
:p
@foggy hazel I have a hectic schedule right now. Last night was crazy. I was able to do a 20 minute project on the PC as it sat without the led plugged in
@fiery pier no rush from our end :) you ask/comment when you have time :)
@foggy hazel @sudden turret
I am trying to find my adapter so I plug in my mini fridge. Or is that a bad idea? Lol
😮
@foggy hazel @sudden turret
Thank you both for all of the help.
if you are going to plug it into your machine? no no, its is GRAND idea
but only if you want another broken psu
:P
I was unable to switch power supplies. I still have the EVGA installed.
I may not get time to disassemble the computer until Tuesday.
@sudden turret @foggy hazel
Question.
In my bios. It said voltage is 12 volts. Under usage it read like 12.186. or something like that. Could that be the issue?
@fiery pier Take your time
pcpp lists are quite a bit "nicer" to work with :) just saying
(here, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/)
@tidal bluff use pcpartpicker next time ^
@tidal bluff general gist of your build is this: its a build, it will work. But i would not make the choices you have made. Some of them can be explained by specific requirements, but so far. they just dont make much logical sense
Personally I think you could have gotten a decent b450 or x470 board instead and I think you could get a power supply with a little less wattage as you definitely don’t need 750
i went with x570 for the pcie4 i plan on getting a seagate firecuda later on
the motherboard i chose is 10 bucks higher on pcpp
@tidal bluff what exactly do you think you will actually "get" from having pci-e 4.0?
the new pcie4 firecudas run at 5000/4000 read and write but thats only for pcie4
and you honestly think you have a workflow where that matters?
(also, keep in mind, that is fairly slow for a pci-e 4.0 controller)
that does not mean that 5000 is "good"
with gen 4
they "should" be reaching 7000-ish numbers if they are actually using the bandwidth
You won’t see a difference between an m.2 and NVMe. The difference is like half a second
Of load time
m.2 is nvme lol
no, it is not automatically nvme
M.2 is basically just a smaller SATA
i have a nvme m.2 and its faster than my sata ssd
m.2 is a connector that is used to "interface" with pci-e lanes
Future proofing?
(for the lurkers, yes, that is simplified like heck)
i just wanted to have the fastest options available
put a racing stripe sticker on your case
it does as much
and i am not joking about that @tidal bluff
I’m just saying a payed a bunch for an HP EX920 instead of a normal ssd and totally regret it
That x560 seems a little much for an R5 though
you really will not feel/see the difference except IF you are doing benchmarks
but so far, you have not mentioned benchmarking as being the use-case for the system/build
@jovial bridge you mean x570?
Yes x570 is a little but much for a Ryzen 7
not really
there are legit reasons for it
gaming imo, is just rarely a use case where it makes much sense
until you get to a certain budget
A b450 would work just a good
the 3rd series draws more heat like some motherboards cant even run the new ryzen 7's there are certain x470 boards that can run them
Fans come with fan screws right
i just wanted the new tech is all
Unless you’re planning to upgrade to a more power hungry Ryzen
maybe later
You can do whatever you want but as of right now a few of your choices won’t show much of a difference
i dont wanna buy a nice motherboard to only have to swap it out later
M.2 compares with 2.5in and 3.5in
NVMe compares with SATA 6gb/s and SATA 3gb/s
@tidal bluff "i just wanted the new tech is all" <- that is a 100% legit reason. YOU, just have to say it before we can "know" about it, does that make sense?
I think the tomahawk B450 would work fine
if i went 400 series id go x470 strix
id just have to use my ryzen 7 1700 for updating the bios first
oops sorry stupid caps
no need for most boards. check manufacturer page.
would be appreciated if you fixed that case of yelling
^
everything else good besides the mobo naed?
Yeah most b450 boards nowadays support Ryzen 3000 out of the box
(most x470 too afaik)
you still have not answered if it makes sense what i said above @tidal bluff
And x470
@tidal bluff "i just wanted the new tech is all" <- that is a 100% legit reason. YOU, just have to say it before we can "know" about it, does that make sense?
@tidal bluff
Two pings. In one...
poor guy
(thankfully discord does NOT work like that)
yea it shows up as 1 ping
Good lol
@stoic island @stoic island @stoic island is just 1 ping
budget is 1400-1500 cause its gonna add tax
@tidal bluff if you dont want to answer, i cannot help you
what ?
@foggy hazel what question?
scroll up
i did i dont see it
there are plenty of notifications for it
i dont see it sorry
use the search function
cant just resay the question? why make this so difficult for me?
Copypasta it again
because you are the one that needs to use your eyes :)
Do I have to requote it
Be like Nike and just do it
now, go and read the original post about your build
didnt think it needed a response
and you will have the answer to your question about "other parts"
i asked ppl in here cause i wanted opinions and help. thanks
naed can you tell me if this is a good pc and what i need to work on
posted on behalf of @spark rover
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PL8nK4
a couple of questions
what mainboard?
(motherboard)
oops
actually the one i had on pcpart said it was incompatible
do you have any recommendations?
could you just paste the model here?
just the name, not the link
(because it gives us some idea about your thought process)
gigabyte b450 pro wifi rev1.0
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KtMRyk <- so that was your intended build originally @spark rover ?
So, if i just put in a new processor and i am now getting stuck on the mobo screen is there a suggested fix?
B450s may not have the BIOS update to run a 3000 series
yea @foggy hazel
@spark rover okay, lets run down some questions, and then fix your list :)
total budget?
do you need/want wifi?
do you have a headset/mic? if yes, is it usb or mini-jack based?
I use a usb 3.0 WiFi adapter and I love it
My USB wifi adapter doesn't have W10 drivers last I checked
My adapter was just plug and play on w10
@spark rover is there a special reason for the H100i?
nope
but the system should not scream like a jet engine?
yea lmao
yep
ok thanks
@fast dust same, iirc but I think one of the newer W10 updates broke it. I just use USB passthrough with a VM when I need it now
@spark rover any special reason for the h510?
Actually I wiped w10 and just have Linux now
the aesthetic and i already have it
sorry, just the case and harddrive
why not naed -_-
hard drive is brand new
@sudden turret because everyone, you especially, are a bunch of pervs
you live in a box for crying out loud!
lol
@spark rover here is a suggestion that we can use as a starting point
updated the list, didnt see you mention that the harddrive is already bought too
@spark rover is the hdd by chance, still in its box?
because IF it is, i would return it
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mwrYcf/seagate-barracuda-computer-2-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm008 <- because that drive (if you absolutely NEED a HDD, is a much better deal for you)
10 usd more, for a doubling in storage
Ok I really like this build! Thank you!
@foggy hazel your list is surprisingly close to one ive made personally
its a fair amount of extra omph on all fronts, aside from the cpu
I could potentially use that hard drive too.
@spark rover take note, that the ssd is a 1tb
because you are really going to notice the "noise" of the hdd
the rest of the system doesnt make much noise
What about the cooler though?
and IF you to eliminate just about all noise, just add in something like a noctua u12 or d15s
the stock is decent enough
but again, as mentioned
its all about what you actually want
@foggy hazel Thank you very man!
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wHvTq3 <- that is an option @spark rover
much*
you are very welcome :)
also, just in case you are not aware. the PSU is plenty for whatever you want to do
its a really nice model, nice long warranty (10 years), really good build quality
and 100% overkill for your system :)
but it logically does not make any sense to not get a solid PSU
any other questions @spark rover ?
on behalf of @pure estuary https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mxhWwh
Nope thanks again
thanks
you are very welcome @spark rover a parting piece of a advice. IF you can, order the psu right now.
it has been going in and out of stock for a while now.
@pure estuary okay, so your build: on the surface its a viable build
you are just paying a fair deal for no real benefit thou
the EVO ssd comes to mind
the ML120L same deal
the RM psu
if we scaled those back, you end up with a 2080 super instead
or very close to at least :)
I thought the MSI MPG wasn't great. Like insanely high VRM temps
depends on what you "do" with it
@jovial bridge you can make most VRM's cry, its just a question of applying enough power
its an entirely different question that asks: Is that something you are actually going to do?
Asus and gigabyte had way lower temps
keep in mind @jovial bridge the board was not designed to blow up on first boot
Open air bench
@foggy hazel the m.2 was mostly for warranty and supplier choice. Samsung has reliable products and something as powerful as an m.2 nvme would need. As for the RM 750W PSU i try to go for 1.5X-ish the estimate which would be 650W but felt the extra 100W would allow more breathing room. Fully modular is a must though. ill get custom cabling.
@pure estuary they are very overrated on the consumer side. (samsung that is)
as for the psu, 650w is already overkill for something like a 3950x with a 2080ti
Agreed on the Samsung's, but I splurged anyway lol
@pure estuary as a comparison: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qLkhZf <- this is with 100 extra in budget
which could temp saved partly, by not getting the 2tb hdd
and adding that in later on
my only concerns with that list is the PSU and m.2 are brands ive never heard of so i dont know the quality.
other than that... its not bad.
the phantek is a seasonic unit with a different sticker on it, for less
@pure estuary post your updated link here
the seasonic you have on it, is however worse vs the AMP
note on the samsung vs any other brand: you dont actually "know" the samsung drives. you just "think" you do
and that is not a negative
its more about its a b rand thats well known and i have personally used rather than reaching out to perhaps a more reliable foreign brand that has little renown
it just "is"
there was a time when samsung was seen as the "weird" brand in the SSD space
and intel was the king
when youve got money on the line familiarity wins
ive heard intel m.2's are poorly designed and too expensive
notice the "was" above :)
yup
i "know" that samsung is overpriced
so by your logic, you have now "heard" that samsung is too expensive
:)
ultimately, i cannot change your mind, i can only give you options to consider :)
and as i have said numerous times on this server: I dont care one bit if someone wants to have a pink build with a celeron powering a Titan card
if that is what they want, fair enough.
they are the one paying for it after all :)
samsung has a much better RMA / Warranty than most thats why i justify the price, but the cost vs build quality is the most important. Id rather pay $300 for a very well made card than $60 for one that goes out after a few launches
thats where you get what you paid for comes into play
its fairly overrated imo
its = the value of warranty for ssd's
and i say that as someone that builds a LOT of machines and services a lot more than that in his regular life
but if the $300 has no RMA or Warranty and the $60 has an extremely good one then the $60 although worse product seems a better option, but yes more than likely you rarely use the RMA for SSD / M.2 but id rather have the option than to not.
and as mentioned, that is fair enough :)
its NOT a negative
but we need to have the talk about it, for me to know that is your reasoning :)
because i meet plenty of people that choose a specific part because "brand!!!!!!!!"
with no actual logic behind it
im more than willing to discuss choices for my builds. i just posted mine in build pics although the picture quality is awful for some reason
i hope that gives some context for all of this :)
you uploaded a low resolution picture
no i completely agree. choosing brand because brand is never the best option. without a reason why youre just buying it because it sounds better than Raidmax or Seagate which may not be known to you
ill try and see if the resolution was changed from my phone to discord
that helped a lot :)
much higher photo resolution
What’s the best gaming PC I can get for around 2k-3k these days?
Should I just go with a pcpartpicker guide?
that depends entirely on the guide :)
Bruh just tell me what to buy
whats the use case?
i am going to pass on helping.
agreed
just buy a prebuilt if you know literally nothing
@little osprey dont jump to assumptions about other people.
that’s not what I mean
I mean that if you need a pc now, buy a prebuilt, if you don’t want one now, just learn a bit more and then construct a list
that’s what I mean @foggy hazel
@little osprey thanks for the constructive help! Where would you look these days?
i feel like a nzxt build could be a solid choice
Thanks
I think they have some high end prebuilts
Perfect!
ye
ye
but I recommend you build a cheaper system before you build a more expensive one, so just get a prebuilt for now
Wow thanks!
anything over 75hz if you want to play on 1440p
Def
if youre spending 3k on the systems the monitor and peripherals should match that
Yeah probably spend 2k-2500 on system and another g on monitors keyboard mouse cable management etc
bruh
65in 4K 144hz with Nvidia Shield Built in
just go all out and get the Nvida BFG
@pure estuary cannot believe this exists
I want to buy that way more than I should
JayzTwoCents has a video on it
4K plex would be A+
Obviously not getting that
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@pure estuary that nzxt "1440p gaming" build is overpriced by a lot
@cursive wharf he wanted 2k-3k pre built
Does he have ips 1440p 144Hz display?
They didn't even start with wanting a pre built
but it transitioned into such
and then they got directed at prebuilts
without even presenting what they can get building it themselves
anyways
i was merely showing that its possible. i completely agree with building it yourself. ive never owned a pre built
Not to mention
Not knowing PC components =/= not knowing how to build one
But anyways, if prebuilt route, get a good one at least
NZXT BLD is merely one route. There is possibly hundreds to choose from. Any good consumer should always price check and look at all options.
im not defending pre-builds nor self built. Im just showing other avenues of options.
not everyone wants to build their own pc thats why best buy, walmart, and other stores have them for sale
yes its more than likely cheaper and better quality to self build, but if the user doesnt want to learn nor take the time to build then obviously a pre-built was the option
This list is basically that pc for like 800$ less
But even better in some regards
Like amp > g5
Arctic freezer 2 > x72
I want something prebuilt
thats using apples to oranges. They are using specific parts. Yes they might be better but thats just what NZXT uses
It’s not for me it’s for my boss and I don’t want to be his go to for figuring out how to build a computer
Very specific use case here
@pine haven just look around at other places. CyberPower, NZXT BLD, etc. just show him options and let him choose
I will do some shopping
Absolutely best way to go
So I’m not on hook for his decision
or tell him that its cheaper and just as easy to self build but just tell him you cant help
Nzxt is still overpriced iirc
2 year warranty is nice though
If it's for your boss, I understand you don't want to build it then.
@stoic island i dont disagree but thats not the point
Like overpriced compared to other prebuilds is what I'm saying, I need to check prices
Couldn’t find in stock:
MSI OPTIX AG32C 1920x1080 165hz VA $300
But found:
MSI OPTIX MAG322CR 1920x1080 180hz VA $330
Is the mag better?
its using mostly NZXT products so its being branded as a premium service.
$99 for assembly and cabling
1080p doesnt need more than 144hz. i run a 75hz for 1080p
...
Do you not notice that it's 32 inch?
That's the issue I have with it being 1080p.
I'd rather not suggest any 1080p 32in monitors
im simply looking at resolution and refresh
1080p 32in looks terrible
ive got a 27in 1080p 75hz
But have you tried 1080p 24in 144hz?
With my 24in monitor, I'd say that's the largest I'd go for 1080p, as any larger, the pixels would be too noticable at the distance I look at my monitor.
i sit roughly 2 feet away
1080p 144hz isn't THAT expensive, usually 150$ is all you need.
"144in"
Lmao
lol
i wish 144in was $150
Didn't realize that
my whole house would be a bunch of screens
If I combined every tv in my house I would barely be able to get 144in
But at like 3 different resolutions
@polar goblet IIRC, you're looking for a second 32in monitor, correct?
we have 5 screens. 65in, 32in, 27in, 22in, and another 22in with the 27in being the only gaming monitor the rest tvs
i think i barely meet the sq feet of a 144in
W u t
total screen area
i was saying cover my walls
if a 144in tv was only $150
so area with be the proper equivalent
Or just the height and width
you cant add multiple screens diagonally and have the same size as a 144in native
except the actual weight of that amount of screen is fairly bonkers
125.5in x 70.5in if 16:9
yes the weight would be absurd
would like to point out that the first 100+ inch tvs required a chain winch to get in place
unless you go with some prototype flexible screens that i belive either Samsung or LG was developing
The first range of devices that use flexible OLED displays are not really flexible from the user perspective. The device maker bends the displays, or curves it - but the final user is not able to actually bend the device. These first-gen flexible OLEDs are adopted many premium smartphones, for example the Samsung edge-type Galaxy phones or Apple's iPhone X and Xs. Besides the beautiful designs, a flexible OLED has several advantages especially in mobile devices - the displays are lighter, thinner and more durable compared to glass based displays.
Second generation flexible OLED displays can be bent by the user - these can be used for example to create foldable smartphones - the first range of which are expected to hit the market by the end of 2019.
@stoic island
I haven’t bought any yet.
Looking to do dual monitors 32in or 27in if two 32s would be to much
I have a 6ft desk
@polar goblet do yourself a potentially big favour and actually measure out how much space the models you are looking at, would actually take up
and place something that is placed at where the upper left and upper right would be of the total screen area
then place yourself in your chair
and take a good notice of how much/little you might need to move your eyes/neck to actually "focus" on those spots
Will do 👍🏼
Just ordered my new desk. Standing adjustable. Should be here in a few days
In the mean time I wonder if those 2 are the best around that price area for 27 or 32 in
IF you go 32 inch, imo, 4k resolution should DEFINITELY be looked at seriously
4K is just gonna be better overall huh?
So I should start looking at 4K ones?
its not "better" overall
its all about the pixel size really
think about it like this:
your phone is fairly crisp in resolution right?
Yes
iPhone
which one?
Xs
@polar goblet 1125 x 2436 pixels, <- thats the resolution for the regular XS
now, imagine that if you took that resolution and stretched it across a 32 inch display
do you think it would look as crisp?
(and yes, its a fairly inane comparison)
Oo okay so 4k being 4000 would be more crisp because how many pixels are spread out length wise
basically, what it boils down to is amount of physical pixels per square inch
the higher a number, the crisper a display will appear
4k means 3840x2160 pixels by the way.
Alright tysm
the general "rule of thumb" for it is the following
up to 24inch monitors = 1080p
24-27=1440p
27+=2160p
there are ofc exceptions
but the above numbers have held true for 99% of situations i have seen over the years :)
Best 4K 27in between $200-$300?
Best 1440p 27in between $200-$300?
4k between 200-300= not something you want
Thats a low budget for 4k, so I believe all you'll have access to is 1440p.
also consider the following: investing in a decent monitor is not a bad idea
you will most likely keep your monitor for a couple of builds at least
agh
I dont like how pcpp shows prices for stuff that's out of stock
and sometimes dont show a price for something that is in stock
pcpp is seemingly having a bit of a ethical debate it looks like
because stuff like that IS solvable
but it requires telling the shops to actually behave or put limits on how they list stuff
Okay best 1-2 for 1440p 27in?
But anyways, do you have any stats on how good this monitor is? even though it's out of stock.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HbCD4D/viotek-gn27d-270-2560x1440-144hz-monitor-gn27d
It's just intriguing that it's the only 144hz 1440p monitor under 300$ I can find
nope, never used that one
It's VA too, so Idrk what they skimmed out on to get it so cheap
scaler maybe
Response Time (G2G)
5 ms
Vs
1ms?
for a gaming build, generally, you want a lower response time
Lower better, but it doesn’t matter too much if your not gaming
okay so the stuttering is back and its like 5-10 seconds long
and it just crashed a game and said something about nvidia share not working
Well firstly you cant go by G2G because C2C is more accurate and realistic and secondly if it were 1ms C2C vs 5ms C2C you wouldnt notice a difference because it's 4ms difference, which no one can tell the difference between
Hey everyone! So I'm building my first pc and I think I ran into a problem. When trying to connect my monitor (Asus VE228H 21.5" 1920x1080) to my motherboard (TUF B450M-PLUS GAMING Micro ATX AM4), I noticed there was no VGA port on the motherboard, at least not that I could see. Am I missing something, or are these two just not compatible?
It should work if you have a adapter, most modern gpu and mobos don’t have vga anymore
The norm is hdmi or DisplayPort
If the monitor and mobo/gpu has a hdmi or DisplayPort you can use that(I can’t search rn I’m on my phone)
I plan to build my own computer with intentions to be able to run destiny 2 high settings on 60fps, but i don't want to make a wrong decision, and was wondering if i could get some ideas of a cpu and gpu that is perfect for what i want please and thank you. (since my gaming laptop is a bit lackluster on preformance on the game)
The monitor I got came with a VGA cable and a DVI cable. The mobo has a DVI port but no VGA port which was why I was confused
@dreamy tendon do you have your build list?
because it sounds like there might be a bit of a misunderstanding going on :)
Yep here it is:
@dreamy tendon you cannot post it, bot will eat your link :)
just dm it to me :)
its our anti spam prevention :)
so @dreamy tendon, as you mentioned in the dm. you have a GPU: Radeon Pro WX 5100 100-505940 8GB 256-bit GDDR5 Workstation Video Card
that means, you dont have to worry about the mainboards video outputs
you will be connecting directly to the WX 5100 card
also, for your own sake, i strongly recommend that you use either a HDMI or DVI cable from the monitor to the WX 5100
please dont use a VGA cable :)
Alright thanks! I'll give that a try
you are very welcome :)
best of luck with your build :)
and please remember the following: there are no stupid questions, only silly answers
Hey whats up guys
so i reset my computer
and my sound doesnt sound the same??
It sounds muffled and bit quite?
@unkempt ibex check plugs
It’s Corsair void pro it’s wireless
Do u think I need to uninstall something then reinstall?
dont know :)
Hey can someone help me out with something?
Does my rgb fusion mess with my trident z I’ve heard that it does this but my computer also restarts randomly which leads me to think the ram is bad
So I ordered new ram and the old ram is intel platform I just bought 3600 gtzrx sticks made for Ryzen
Beginners mistake
there are certain speeds/latencies that work better with specific ryzen chips, but that is not "made for ryzen"
that is just how cpus work
re: restarts: it could be ram related
with the data you are giving me, that is only a guess thou
Idk
(you cannot tell me anything else, i know)
currently, your own best bet is start to look at the logs
and remember to keep notes of when/how/where etc it happens
which are all "normal" things to do when trying to track errors
Everywhere it’s happens watching video playing making essays for school whole Nike yards
Nine
How do you check logs
Sorry
Never had to go into this much depth into fixing my computer
as i say, just about every day. There are no stupid questions, only silly answers
so feel free to ask
Ok thanks I will try the event viewer tommorow morning but also my new “Ryzen ram” is coming in but it does have a purpose with a higher speed so we will have to see
When switched out what it does
But pretty much everything is getting swapped this year anyway for new parts
So eventually it will stop I guess
its the nature of things
I’ve had it for two years just started to really get into it more
Less I think a year and a half
anyone have a list of parts for a budget pc (under $700)
yes your okay with 1080p right
yep
how do you upload pictures
im trying to get to 700 but its a little hard i would recommend the 3600 but a 2600 is still a solid cpu
745 is the best option i could make is that okay for you?
yeah thats ok
I would say overclock the cpu a little and you should be good 6c 12thread processor is enough for gaming and if you wanted switch out for a regular 1660 and over lock if you want to save more money
thank you
Np I like building these
i tried to make a list and had 2 odf the things that you had on your list kind of pound of myself
I would research some more i have experience but advice from multiple people can help I don’t want to lead you down the wrong path but msi tomahawk is an absolute killer for its pricepoint
B550 chipset is coming in a couple months though if you wait
Which offers PCIe 4.0
For cheaper than an x series mobo
@foggy hazel whenever you see this (I know it’s late couldn’t sleep without fixing) I had did pressure tests on both my house and cpu multiple rounds and no restart can’t be the power supply because just swaped it and same issue so I’m leading towards the ram all drivers and operating system is updated but I might have to update my bios I haven’t done that for this board since I got it last year and I’m planning on putting a 3 or 4 series chip in it probably 3 and eventually upgrading my mobo I really don’t know how to diagnose through the logs I’m not skilled enough but I will try to get more info on it all there is left to is (update bios)(new ram possibly on the way though)(possibly check hard drive) but that’s all I got left before fully understanding and going through logs
Gpu**
Can anyone help with my audio it sounds muffled and a lot quieter I reset my pc today and that’s why it happened
I also reinstalled my audio driver and there’s no difference
Okay and?
@nimble flume You'd be better off with this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7TJC9G
-CPU: The price fluctuates however will usually come back down to $85. May need to wait a week or two for that
-Mobo: Tomahawk is overpriced. Also a $100+ board isnt really a good idea with that $700 budget
-RAM: Only Zen2 CPUs use 3600 RAM, Zen/Zen+ can only use about 3200 speeds
-Storage: That SSD didnt have DRAM cache so not a good idea. Also 120gb is pretty small and hard to use as a boot drive. Switched it out for an NVMe with good controller + DRAM cache
-GPU: 5600xt is a bit above 2060 levels of perf for less, also def above 1660S perf.
-case: cheap but basic
-PSU: More wattage doesnt really mean better quality as a note, nor does rating get you quality of a PSU. BQ has poor voltage regulation/ripple, lacks OTP, not so great transient response times, etc. CX is just a better choice, even if lower wattage.
Hei
I cannot get audio enhancements for my headset?
I uninstalled the Realtek driver and installed it again and still I don’t have the audio enhancements tab
You can try to uninstall it, reboot, and let windows install its default one. Other then that idk
@quartz gyro\
@stoic island https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZqHvhg this is what I ended up on I need some more powerfull cpu power for other things also my other things are intel boards makes it eaiser to trouble shoot
have no amd in my house got any suggestions
...what
Amd is better for other things lol
Wdym "makes it easier to troubleshoot'
to interchangeable parts
I can change out different parts to see which part is not working
I thought you only had a lga1150 board?
Everything else you can swap out and test other than the cpu anyways
wdym
What other Intel CPU do you have
Because Intel chips have different sockets
Depending on the chip
And if you need to troubleshoot, just slap it in the other PC you said you had, there's no difference lol ...
If the cpu don't work, the cpu don't work.
but I have no amd mobos
If the CPU doesnt work, you get a post code error. If the mobo doesnt work, you get nothing
doesnt help much
Yes
There is no difference in troubleshooting between if you had Intel or if you had AMD
Hei Ima let you do your thing
eh, im lazy rn
Might want to reconsider case too but meh
he already has an AMD list
Idk Man U sure the mad is better way to go
Because I know that I play rts that are pretty cpu intensive like stellaris or civ
Rip
@cursive wharf
Your sure I shouldn’t go for the i79700k I’m looking for a build that I won’t have to upgrade for a few years
Maybe longer
Why do the bench’s look so much worse than intel
I wouldn’t go as far to say that, but I will say amd is just barely behind intel for fps in games, but in everything else amd is miles ahead
On user bench mark
Userbenchmark isn’t great
What should I use then
For benchmarks something like 3dmark or cinebench is fine, but I would look at real world performance in games or things like blender, premiere pro, etc
Amd is still a little behind Intel for gaming, but beats Intel on some productivity tasks
I’m mostly a gamer
I do some photoshopping time to time 3D rendering for 3D print projects
Or
The one at the same price but with a monitor
But its amd
@stoic island i want the purtyness of the case i like how it looks
Pls send advice hoping to order today
I'm looking to build a new computer while recycling some parts of my current set up.
Bc of the little amount of games i play, i see the ryzen 3600 work fine for me.
One thing i see often is the mobo tomahawk b450. Is there a reason why the asus strix b450 is not mentioned?
For gfx ill be recycling my current card. XFX Radeon Rx Vega 56 8GB. I know it's old but it still does ok. I'd be willing to change/upgrade if needed.
Case will be recycled too. Corsair 540.
Also may reuse a corsair hx750 depending on some tests....might be going bad....
Ssd i have an old samsung evo 860 500gb ssd i can use after cleaning up.
Would love some advice if possible.
Budget?
Me?
Either
1400 or a little more for no peripherals or monitor
Since I'm saving about 200 or so with psu/case/ssd about 600 or so left on the budget
@timber glade your keeping you GPUs right
And do you have a 3600 or are saying your definitely going to upgrade to one
Yea. The Vega 56 seems worth keeping for now. Upgrade to one
Well you might want some mor storage
Yea i have 2 4tb drives ill move over and 2 4th externals for junk.
Ok that’s more than enough
Im on edge for the gfx card though. I want to buy a 4k monitor down the road but I'm unsure if the vega 56 will be able to handle it. Not for gaming but for videos and streams and such.
Aight I’m not sure either just wait for someone to come help us
I’m not too experienced either
You have a decent amount of left over budget
Prob going to be a few hrs since it's the middle of the night/morning right now
Hey guys so I'm new here and I just want some thoughts on a build I'm planning. I do lots of gaming and recently cad work for school that's very resource intensive (lumion 10). My current pc is a dell xps 8900 with a Intel i7 6700k and a gtx745 which is obviously hot garbage. I am between two options here and cant decide whether I should upgrade just the GPU to a 1660 ti (it's the highest tier graphics card I can get without replacing the psu) or start a new build altogether. If I were to go with a new computer do u guys know if now is a good time to start it pr are there any new generations of GPUs of cpus coming withing the next 8 months that I should wait for. Also wondering if a 2070 super for 500 is a good deal. Any help is a appreciated
I’m guessing you use your setup for gaming. Pretty sure you don’t use some hefty softwares. A 1660 can run most games without much difficulty
yeah go for a new GPU, new PSU where needed, don't need to get rid of the system
I'm sticking with my i7-4790 computer for the foreseeable future
1660 is fine for 1080p. Hell, I had mine paired with a core i5
At least on older games anyway
hey so i know exactly nothing about wifi cards, does anyone have any suggestions?
that kinda depends on your internet and router.
if you have say 400mbps internet with router that supports, you'll want a wifi card that can pull 400mbps.
do read the rules :)
@lime forge sorry for not calling directly on you, didnt think you were awake :)
all good, i just got up lol
ah :)
can anyone help with my audio drivers
Its called realtek(R) but i want high definition audio
@unkempt ibex just to verify: your headset is what?
@sudden turret you get 400 mbps???
I get a little over
i found that wifi cards that were designed for lower speeds like uhhh 400mbps typically have worse antennas. I have a gigabit wifi card (i think) and it came with good antennas and i get like 200 to my room over wifi with a not so great router
@latent storm i have this wifi card, it boosted my speeds from 30mbps to 200 https://www.newegg.com/asus-pce-ac68-pci-express/p/N82E16833320173?Description=PCE-AC68&cm_re=PCE-AC68-_-33-320-173-_-Product&quicklink=true
@foggy hazel it is a Corsair void pro
@foggy hazel I reset my computer and after I reset it my audio driver got messed up
the USB, USB wireless, or 3.5mm jack?
ah, i have the corsair void elites
theyre basically the same product
do you have icue downloaded?
wtf when im updating stuff on my xbox in my room i get like 15mbps lol
It says realtek(R) and I want it so say high definition audio
Because I want the enhancements tab for my headset and it’s not there
@unkempt ibex its NOT the realtek driver
because the Void Pro have their own "something something" iirc
Oh
well in my sound control panel I when to my headset and it is missing enhancements tab
then look for a driver changelog for the headset
How do I do that lmao
On device manger?
google.
Oh
I just download something that will update it for me
but I did go into the device manager and hit update on Realtek(R) and it did not change to High definition audio which I want
"I just download something that will update it for me" <- that does not fill me with confidence
you could change that to "super duper ultra deluxe sound! no no, really!!!!!" and it would not matter
your machine, your choice
I mean I tried updating it manually and it did not change to high definition audio
@latent storm make sure your are connected to 5g not 2g
on behalf of @azure nova https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LNJ7gJ
i do connect to the 5g, but that’s the network that we use for all the xbox’s so it could just be that there’s too many xbox’s pulling the bandwidth?
my 5ghz wifi doesn't work very well, even when you are next to router it has high speed and high latency
are ssds really that expensive now?
Ok I raised my budget for a good monitor.
27-32 in
144hz (at least)
1440p
Here’s the top 5 I found.
Thoughts? Have to choose 1 lol
personally i am a fan of IPS panels, so the TUF gets the vote on my end
Yeah I’ve lowered it now to just between the
MSI OPTIX MAG272CQR 27
VA $400
ASUS TUF GAMING VG27
IPS $430 or VA $400
Going to try to go to the store and see them in person if possible
But it seems like those are good monitors ya? Anything else I should be looking at around that price range? Or those are the ones?
imo, not really
Not really anything else?
based on what you have said in my interaction with you? no
Okay thanks 😁
you are very welcome :)
Which psu is better?
Corsair RM 750x
EVGA G5 750w
Check the pinned messages :) there is a PSU tier list link in there :)
why 750w anyways? Get a good 550w/650w and you're good for any consumer CPU/GPU combo
a 550w handles a stock 3950x+2080Ti for reference btw
Realtek, version 10.0.18362.1
Hi does anyone know if the MSI B450m pro-vdh is compatible with a ryzen 5 3600x? Please ping.
Any suggestions on what to do instead of the rtx 2060 ko? Sold out while in my cart and was gonna order my build tn. I've got a 3600x, 16gb ram 500gb nvme 2tb ssd etc, but now the 2060ko sold out and I'm already over budget by 100+ due to having to get a better motherboard since the cheaper ones sold out.. 300$ for the GPU was already a good point idk if I can go higher but I also don't want to downgrade from 2060ko level of performance. Any advice?
@jovial ruin any 2060 will give you the same gaming performance
@lusty bramble it will IF the bios is updated on it
I'm back:)
So I should just try to find any 2060 near that price then, prob like a bit more than the ko but guess that's not a big deal, saw some for like 330 or so
Or is it more worth going up to 2070 or 2060super?
Though it'll definitely hurt my wallet to go up in price. Even the extra 30-40 gonna hurt going up from the 300$ ko
@jovial ruin you got a pcpp list?
How does this look? Note: two bought conponents
$600 budget, buying after Corona
looks good
good for 1080 mid-high depending on the game
caps lock smh
Im looking to play some indies and not triple As really
I need more opinions though
nope, looks good and complete for the budget
Thx!
hey so i’m looking for a monitor that’s 1080p or 1440p and 144hz and preferably ips or va
Might get better feedback in #old-monitors-and-tv
i forgot that was a channel my b
Dw
Whats a good 3000/3200 Ram for OCing?
Would the Ryzen 1600 AF work with the ASRock A320M-HDV R4.0?
If you mean Ryzen 5 1600(YD1600BBM6IAF), it says BIOS P3.70 as the min.
That BIOS was released back on 27-NOV-2019.
So if I bought the board right now it would work out of the box?
Unless it was a REALLY old stock board, you should be fine.
Wazzup?
Would that memory work on the board too?
Ummm...
"AMD Ryzen series CPUs (Pinnacle Ridge) support DDR4 3200+(OC) / 2933(OC) / 2667 / 2400 / 2133 ECC & non-ECC, un-buffered memory"
Looks like it would probably drop down to 2,667, unless OC'd.
eek
The Ryzen 5 1600 "AF" is Pinnacle Ridge, so.
So I should just choose some 2666MHz memory instead?
Yeah, 2,667 stuff would be more than enough. lol
Alright cool. Trying to make a rough draft for my friend of a cheap streaming build 🤷
Unless you or they plan on going to a Ryzen 9 3950X, which can take 3,200 stuff. lol
Honestly never checked memory compatibility in my life and always winged it. Trying to change that.
Yeah they're trying to stay pretty cheap
There also is a Memory QVL list on the page, for that board.
yep
Ryzen 5 1600AF would be under Pinnacle Ridge.
Yeah
That is what they tested it w/. Could work w/ other stuff, too, so.
Welcome. 🙂
What’s a gpu cpu combo for fortnite at 1080p 200fps while playing 60 on my stream other games I play are gta apex valorant etc


