#building-and-recc-chat

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stoic island
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I think I'll be able to switch them around?

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Unless a PCie 3.0 x4 device can't work with PCie 2.0 x4?

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agh

cursive wharf
stoic island
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Yea...

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What are you using there?

cursive wharf
stoic island
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Ah this sheet

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Saw it once, forgot about it

cursive wharf
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probs best to return MS30 if you can, so that you dont lower the perf of your NVMe. Which will work in M2_2 slot, but lowered perf

stoic island
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The MS30 is a year old lol

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it's a horrible drive

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I just want to see what data I have leftover on it

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then wipe it, and maybe sell it

cursive wharf
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ah, well then doing the swap wont be as bad then. Just have MS30 in M2_1 and NVMe in M2_2 and it hopefully will work

stoic island
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Yea I'll do that next time

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I was opening it up today to clean the dust

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and now it's back on, I'm too lazy to get it opened up again

cursive wharf
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yeah, that's a pretty nice mood there

sullen spoke
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price range: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

deep skiff
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okay lads I need some help because I’m not smart

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so I haven’t updated drivers or anything since I built my pc (like a year ago lol) and I’m like hey I’ll do it today, so I updated everything

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so I updated it like a few days ago and yesterday I noticed some stuttering (like half a second), and it keeps happening in a bunch of games and apps (some are like 4 seconds long), and I’m pretty sure something is wrong with the drivers

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should I ddu the drivers, and would it probably be gpu or cpu, or what else could it be?

lime forge
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DDU in safe mode disconnected from the internet is the best way

cursive wharf
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What all did you update?

deep skiff
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just ryzen master and new nvidia drivers

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and it isn’t my oc, I put everything to stock and it still gets stutters

cursive wharf
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My solid guess is GPU drivers. Tho check CPU clocks to make sure they are maxed out during the stutters

deep skiff
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okay I’ll check that and then check a frametime graph

cursive wharf
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Ye, I remember having that issue on some i5 haswell chip. Stutters were a lot smaller, but was due to CPU clocking down

deep skiff
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what software?

cursive wharf
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idk much on software with graphs, but AIDA64 or just use Afterburner+Rivatuner to get the info on the game window

deep skiff
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okay I’m pretty sure it’s a gpu driver issue my cpu is pinned at 4ghz, no dips or anything

woeful elm
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Can i get a rec on a mobo cpu combo for about $300

trail knot
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whats a good 60 or 65% mechanical keyboard for under 100 cad

wary geode
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Ducky one 2 mini

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Or Ann pro

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Message if u need more help

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Sure headless

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I mean a Ryzen 5 3600x and a solid b450 does the job well

woeful elm
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Ive never owned an amd processor before

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So im not entirely familiar with the lineup

fast dust
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Well get one and you'll find out why everyone is freaking out over it 😂

woeful elm
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500w should cover that comfortably right?

fast dust
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Depends on GPU

woeful elm
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Gpu is a 1060 6gb and i dont plan on an upgrade until late this year

cursive wharf
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Also depends on PSU itself. You want a good 500w, not a bad one

fast dust
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I'd think it'd be fine

woeful elm
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80+ bronze

fast dust
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what company?

cursive wharf
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that says nothing about PSUs

woeful elm
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Oof

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U gunna make me say it

cursive wharf
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nor does company

woeful elm
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Thermaltake

fast dust
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:yikes:

cursive wharf
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TT Smart 80+ Bronze?

fast dust
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Oh whoops wrong server lol

woeful elm
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Probably?

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Idk its a 500w i bought for around $60

cursive wharf
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You can only judge a PSU by model; not by wattage, rating, or company

woeful elm
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Ah, well it had good ratings its not like i picked it out of a dump

fast dust
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Well yeah I asked company because If he said Diablotek or something I'd just say no.

cursive wharf
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Well if it is TT Smart 80+ bronze, you basically did

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because that is a literal fire hazard

woeful elm
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Lemme check

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Lol u bet ur stuff its a smart one

cursive wharf
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@fast dust So basically a not so big company? What about Antec? Not a well known company. But also makes one of the best ATX PSUs in the world

fast dust
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Dude I love Antec

cursive wharf
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@woeful elm So basically replace that first before anything else then

woeful elm
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But i like my little fire hazard

fast dust
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Lmaooooo

cursive wharf
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@fast dust Then Wentai?

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like them?

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that is a company, not lying

fast dust
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Never heard of them lol

cursive wharf
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They also make one of the best ATX PSUs in the world

fast dust
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If a company who's name I've never heard of was said, I'd do research on them

cursive wharf
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That's good then

woeful elm
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Ima leave the fire hazard where it be, it cant possibly be worse than me or the jank 20lb 40yearold amp for my speakers.

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You guys approve of the ryzen 5 3600x and the b450?

fast dust
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hmm

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Depends on the B450

cursive wharf
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It can when it fails and kills all the hardware with it

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CPU, mobo, GPU

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etc

woeful elm
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Well i guess i can return it while waiting for the new stuff depending on shipment times

trail knot
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are outemo's good?

woeful elm
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But my degree of care is abysmal

fast dust
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@trail knot for key switches?

trail knot
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yes

fast dust
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I have otemau blues in my keyboard and I like them

trail knot
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how good?

cursive wharf
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So you dont care about rebuying your CPU, mobo, GPU and wasting $800 - $1000 from a fire because PSUs dont matter?

fast dust
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Umm... they feel like blues? idk. Can't say I've ever used a different mechanical keyboard for a long period of time

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They're good on a budget

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My keyboard is white and RGB with those switches and I got it for under $45

trail knot
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huh

woeful elm
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I could care less if my house burnt down much less my pc, but i dont wanna go that route with the chat lol.

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Ill get a corsair cx or smthin

fast dust
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whoa there buddy

woeful elm
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Decent low end psus are overpriced as heck atm so the fire cracker will have to stick around until they come back down

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In the mean time, his name is sparky

stoic island
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CX is the lowest acceptable psu imo

woeful elm
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Its going for $140

stoic island
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Really

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I saw 450w in stock a few days ago for like 60$

foggy hazel
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depends on what retailer

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and what part

woeful elm
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Newegg and amazon are out of wack, corsair is out of stock

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500w cx corsair psu

foggy hazel
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you most likely dont "need" a 500+ one

woeful elm
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Not until i get a newer gpu

stoic island
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only real one I can see this, not great, guess new cx are out of stock again

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fast dust
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renewed psu yucky

woeful elm
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I mean 70 is 70

foggy hazel
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i really dont get the problem you have

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that one is in stock

stoic island
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hmm

foggy hazel
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thats the 550

stoic island
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I went on newegg, searched cx, and sorted by lowest price

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didnt see nothin

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weird

woeful elm
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Funny its even cheaper than the 500w on corsairs site

stoic island
safe field
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Last time I ordered one of these PSUs, it was destroyed in shipping

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0/10 never buying Corsair again

fast dust
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That's the mail carrier's fault though

safe field
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No

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Should have bought a Thermaltake TUFFPower

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Okay but seriously

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PSU prices

fast dust
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Yeah they're really bad rn

safe field
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Also

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Bitfenix ran out of their good stuff

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They only ever sold on Amazon but damn were the prices great

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Whisper was my go-to recommendation for a couple months

woeful elm
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👏 b450👏 which one, atx size

stoic island
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Hei would yell at everyone to get whisper if it's in stock

safe field
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LOL

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sounds like Hei

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Formula Gold was great too, so long as you didn't mind nonmodular

foggy hazel
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@safe field no, prices are not that bad

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that applies for you too @fast dust

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have a look at the graph

safe field
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I bought this for $55

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a few months ago

foggy hazel
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on sale

safe field
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no

foggy hazel
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yes, on sale

safe field
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...

foggy hazel
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if you look at the graph

stoic island
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35$ lol

foggy hazel
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you will see that it wasnt the "norm"

safe field
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I'm not even going to have this discussion

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bye

stoic island
woeful elm
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Heyyy.... b450 mobo

stoic island
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what budget

woeful elm
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$300 plus the ryzen 5

foggy hazel
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@stoic island and as mentioned, and as can be seen in the graph, it was not a price that stuck around forever ...

stoic island
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Yea

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but

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fun to think about

foggy hazel
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its not realistic to complain that a "short period sale price" is not the current price

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that is just .... silly

little osprey
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Wish I had a pc

mighty sapphire
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Hi guys! I just realized I need to get a monitor 🤦🏼‍♀️😂🤣 recommendations ? I’ve ordered all my parts and everything will be here by Wednesday!!

woeful elm
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Budget

stoic island
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1440p or 1080p?

mighty sapphire
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Eh? I’m not really picky on budget I don’t think

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Umm what would be best for gaming with what I got?

stoic island
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I'm just gonna give you MAG272CQR as an option

mighty sapphire
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2070super and 3700x

foggy hazel
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the mag272 that mr1111 suggested is a solid option

stoic island
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I just like MSI, and that monitor is a fairly good monitor.
There are other alternatives, depending on extra requests.

mighty sapphire
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I just want something that will utilize my gpu and look awesome lol

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And could last if I end up upgrading the gpu

foggy hazel
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( @stoic island you got the m.2 question sorted yesterday right?)

stoic island
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Yea

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Turns out M.2_2 doesn't allow for SATA

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for some reason

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but M.2_1 does

foggy hazel
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the MAG fits that @mighty sapphire

mighty sapphire
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Perfect! Doesn’t seem too bad at around 400

stoic island
foggy hazel
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aye, skimmed the logs Mr1111

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just wanted to make certain :)

stoic island
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Alright, fair enough.

mighty sapphire
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Does the free sync vs gsync matter ?

stoic island
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Not in most cases, Most free sync monitors are G-sync compatible

woeful elm
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B450 tomahawk from msi, thoughts?

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Its a little over my budget but im also in atx so im fine with a little over

stoic island
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Why not Asus tuf b450m pro

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for <100$ usually

woeful elm
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One sec

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The io is god awful

foggy hazel
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how exactly is the IO awful?

woeful elm
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I could be looking at the wrong one lemme double check

mighty sapphire
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Any idea if that mag is gsync compatible?

foggy hazel
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@mighty sapphire the question you want to ask yourself is: Does nvidia support the MAG

mighty sapphire
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How would I check into that?

sullen spoke
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there is a support list somewhere on nvidia

stoic island
foggy hazel
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that list is fairly "random" iirc

stoic island
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But I mean, my monitor isn't certified, and I'm running G-sync off of it right now...

foggy hazel
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as i just said :)

sullen spoke
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most will not have an issue with g sync compatible

stoic island
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Yea

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They havn't tested too many monitors

sullen spoke
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testing process can be slow

trail knot
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are outemu switches good?

sullen spoke
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haven't heard of them

woeful elm
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Naed i trust what u say, but im not counting 10

trail knot
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huh

woeful elm
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On my current setup, i use 8 or 9

stoic island
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I think thats the crappy ones in my keyboard rn xD

sullen spoke
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are they like chinese knock off cherries?

mighty sapphire
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Okay! So I should be good? Just wanted to double check before I spend that much on it lol

stoic island
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I'd say you are good.

foggy hazel
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"Naed i trust what u say, but im not counting 10" <- 10 what?

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@woeful elm, last sentence is for you

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and the tomahawk doesnt have 10 usb on the back plane either

woeful elm
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You pointed at the 10 in thag sentence

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No it doesn't

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Im confused why

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But if this is something that i have to compromise on, then so be it

foggy hazel
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hubs are a thing

woeful elm
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Oh IO look like 10

stoic island
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Hooman, if you really just want the tomahawk, for whatever reason, just say it...

cursive wharf
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10 what? USB ports, video ports, audio ports, PS2 ports, etc?

woeful elm
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Im on mobile, its the first thing i saw tbh, but i asked twice here and didnt get any input until i made it an argument

foggy hazel
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@woeful elm it helps having patience.

trail knot
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should i buy the DIERYA Mechanical Gaming Keyboard 60%

woeful elm
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Texting is wack i meant that in a lighthearted sense

trail knot
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..

foggy hazel
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@trail knot patience is also something you could use some off it seems

trail knot
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no it just seemed random

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like

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nvm

woeful elm
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Naed poppin off

foggy hazel
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@woeful elm re: compromise: that depends entirely on your choice

trail knot
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like

foggy hazel
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because finding a board with a different selection on the backplane is easy enough. BUT, it requires that you actually start talking about what you need.

trail knot
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no one waits 20s and says"i need an answer"

woeful elm
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Fair point

foggy hazel
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because so far, you have made noise, but not actually given us any substance :)

woeful elm
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Basically need a b450 mobo matx or atx, think im just picky cuz im pissed at myself for bricking my pc today

foggy hazel
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hopefully you learned something from that experience

woeful elm
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Tbh not entirely my fault

foggy hazel
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namely: dont OC things you will get annoyed at being without

woeful elm
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I have another machine lol

foggy hazel
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then stop being annoyed.

woeful elm
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But still dissatisfied with the outcome

foggy hazel
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its just parts

woeful elm
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More parts to add to the hoard lol

foggy hazel
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but, to get back to the backplane debate: What do you actually need?

stoic island
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I wish I could learn that lesson xD

woeful elm
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If i can run a usb hub from the 3.1 port then the 6 port mobos will be plenty

trail knot
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ok

foggy hazel
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@woeful elm doing a hub from either the type C or the Type A 3.1 ports is simple

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just requires you having a decent hub

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all that ultimately matters is how much bandwidth you actually need

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because IF you "just" have 8 mice plugged in, you could do that off a usb 1 port

woeful elm
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Its worked providing power for an audio interface so it should be ok for my keyboard mouse and headset charger

foggy hazel
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so, a powered hub

woeful elm
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I wont be running the audio interface from a hub, that was necessary for my laptop

foggy hazel
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as in, one that can handle a decent amount of power is what you want.

woeful elm
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I have a hub we good on that front XD

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Other things connected would be a vr headset (hdmi and usb 3.0) my two monitors (dp and hdmi, 2nd monitor is off mobo's hdmi) and a radio for my wireless headset

foggy hazel
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still not seeing how a single hub doesnt solve all the noise

woeful elm
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Wouldnt that be too much traffic over one port?

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Im chill with 6 we dont have to go lower lol

foggy hazel
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"all that ultimately matters is how much bandwidth you actually need"

woeful elm
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Well the mic needs width

foggy hazel
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i dont think you quite "get" how much bandwidth there is in a 3.1 port

woeful elm
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I imagine a lot

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Im a mechanical/aero engineer not a eletrical

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That stuff scares me

foggy hazel
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regular plain boring 3.1 gen 1 is 5 Gbps

woeful elm
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Im at ur mercy, im nowhere near as knowledgeable as you are when it comes to PC's

cursive wharf
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what all is plugged into the USB ports? Because even a quality mic wouldnt take more then 200mbps usually of bandwidth

woeful elm
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Scroll^^^

cursive wharf
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Didnt see anything bandwidth intensive, and some things that may have slight latency issues. But quite unlikely unless you're quite observant

woeful elm
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For the vr?

cursive wharf
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Most of VR data is from video, which is from HDMI. USB hubs are something I havent looked into a whole lot, but never heard about latency issues, whiched by the only potential issue

woeful elm
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I started playing vr on a 960m, i doubt i will notice it if it is there

scenic heath
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Hmm my graphics card is plugged in and the fans are spinning but my monitor is not turning on

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What do I do?

stoic island
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Check connections

lime forge
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most current gen VR headsets are through DisplayPort

woeful elm
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current gen

lime forge
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which headset do you have?

woeful elm
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Wmr HP

lime forge
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ah, then that would be HDMI.

woeful elm
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Yes

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Wont be getting abother headset until im out of college, wouldnt be able to justify the purchase

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Also make aure ur monitor is turned on and on the right input

scenic heath
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Well i got my graphics card to work but my monitors still won’t turn on

stoic island
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Like what do you mean won't turn on

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No signal, or just the power button on it doesn't work

scenic heath
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No signal

stoic island
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Check everything else on the Mobo

foggy hazel
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lets start at the top

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Where is your monitor plugged in exactly?

scenic heath
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Alright I got my monitors to work Lmaoo

foggy hazel
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did it help moving the connector from the mainboard to the GPU @scenic heath ?

scenic heath
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Yessir

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LOL

foggy hazel
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good to hear it was something as simple as that :)

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enjoy your system :)

scenic heath
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thanks man but as I loaded the icue app 2 of my fans turned off

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so now its porb after prob lol

foggy hazel
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cannot help you with icue

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i know just about nothing about that application

scenic heath
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lol I appreciate it tho

foggy hazel
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but, there are a number of people (that should also be awake now) that do :)

scenic heath
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Well I got that working too

foggy hazel
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yes ......

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i am waiting to see what you break next:P

scenic heath
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LOL I jus got it today

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I was fixing it if anything lol

foggy hazel
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suuuure! :P :)

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but, congrats on the new system, now, please try to not break anymore stuff on it :)

scenic heath
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LMAOOO

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Thanks man but all I did was swap out my NZXT case for this Phanteks and added 4 fans

foggy hazel
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and you already broke 2 things! impressive!

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you have a great future ahead of you in demolition!

cold sorrel
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apparently "plug the monitor into the motherboard instead of the GPU" is a really common error from all of the research I've been doing (and fortunately is not one that does any harm, is just frustrating)

foggy hazel
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its logical enough @cold sorrel

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its the place where people plug everything else in

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and "look, there is a the type of port i need"

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and generally, light on the back of a case is limited

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hence, the top IO is easier to see

scenic heath
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@foggy hazel Heyy man I didnt break anything if anything I fixed it

foggy hazel
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:D

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suuuuuuure, you keep on saying that :D

scenic heath
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I WIll!

foggy hazel
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:)

cold sorrel
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I'm starting to think I might wait until June before I actually do my build. Maybe by then things will have started to settle

scenic heath
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Good luck!

cold sorrel
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It might also be worth waiting till June for the cheaper AMD boards to arrive. My laptop isn't in imminent danger of failing, it just runs a bit hot sometimes.

foggy hazel
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time will tell on the "cheaper" part @cold sorrel

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dont get your hopes up too high on that front

cold sorrel
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Or the new AMD boards will be more expensive and better, thus driving down the price of x570 boards.

foggy hazel
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not happening

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the b550 are positioned below the current crop of x570

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and consumers have show how willing they are to forego logical thinking and just pay more for things

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so ... i dont really see a logical reason why the manufacturers or retailers are NOT going to charge a pretty penny for things

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just, please keep in mind, i would LOVE for there to be a b550 that beats the living daylights out of the B450m Progaming, for 50usd

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it is just not logical that it is going to happen

cold sorrel
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Still might at least have some good ones that are cheaper than the x570s, even if they're not as cheap as b450m Progaming

foggy hazel
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might, just please, dont get hyped for it :)

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that is basically what i am trying to tell/get-people-to-understand :)

cold sorrel
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I mean, I'm pretty much in the boat of waiting for prices and stock to settle. I can't even get a monitor right now without having to drop entirely too much money.

little osprey
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Should i get the 3900X to swap out for my 3600? Im trying to have a smooth VR streaming experience.

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I have an RTX 2060 super, since the model 2070 super i wanted wasnt available

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And if i should swap my CPU out for the 3900X, could i keep my ASUS ROG Strix B450F-Gaming motherboard?

buoyant flame
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Correct me if I'm wrong @lime forge but wouldn't a gpu upgrade make more of a difference for vr than a cpu?

lyric thistle
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that sounds right

late vector
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Hi, I'm pretty new here and Im not sure whether this is the correct place to be asking this question. I'm currently looking at 2 Wifi mesh system. particularly the Asus lyra trio (dual band) and the Linksys Velop 3 node pack (dual band) may I know which is better in terms of performance wise?
would appreciate it if there is any wifi experts here would recommend me haha. thanks 🙂

subtle halo
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3600 is already fine for vr games no need to swap out

woeful elm
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WLYDTC this is my list, ignore gpu because i dont need anything better. Im more worried about the compatibility b/w mobo and cpu and i can find the retailers im actually going to buy from after that. Im not firm on mobo selection. End budget for these parts not including the power supply is around $350 (above or under is fine, but would like to keep it under)

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warped moat
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Get the Asus Tuf b450 gaming pro

woeful elm
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Should i be worried about the compatibility thing that pcpp is throwing?

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B450m-pro gaming correct

warped moat
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Yea

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And that compatibility thing just has to do with outdated bioses

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B450 mobos won’t work with Ryzen 3rd gen without a bios update

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The bios is updated when the board leaves the factory

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So unless you get unlucky and get old stock with an outdated bios it’ll work just fine

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Even if you are unlucky you can just contact AMD and they will send you a boot kit to update it for free

woeful elm
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Ok

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I think thats the mobo that was recommended to me yesterday sk i think it will be fine

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The asus

buoyant flame
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Yes that board is recommended a fair deal around here

next skiff
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Any advice for new builders? I am going to be attemping to build my first PC soon and im a little nerves.

lime forge
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@little osprey the 3600 and 2060 is a great combo for vr

little osprey
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Alright

foggy hazel
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@next skiff read the mainboard manual, dont rush, and above all, take your time.

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it is as simple as that really

fast lantern
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Hey guys, i ordered my first pc build about a week ago. Do you guys think a gtx 1660 super and a ryzen 5 1600af will be good enough for 1080p gaming to fully utilize the max framerate on a 144hz monitor monitor? I dont mind dropping all my settings to the lowest values either (Apart from like population settings in gta v)

buoyant flame
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That should be fine

next skiff
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@foggy hazel Thanks!

fast lantern
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Okay thanks!

buoyant flame
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Welcome

foggy hazel
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@next skiff when the time comes, a video call can also solve a LOT of situations :)

next skiff
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That would be helpful. I have a couple of friends who have built a PC on there own so I always have them to ask.

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It seems like a really fun project so i am excited but nerves to get started.

buoyant flame
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It is fun

woeful elm
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Bruh

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I got my pc to post

modern shadow
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Nice

woeful elm
#

I had an extra i5 around and threw that in, turns out the i7 that the mobo pushed to 1.8v died, not surprising, especially after i demolished it with broken oc settings

modern shadow
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Bruh

woeful elm
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Lol the i7 was an ivy that i was having serious issues with oc because of the bios

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So it got cranked to 1.7-1.8

buoyant flame
#

Ah yes if it's not working just send it to the electric chair

formal plover
#

Thoughts?

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Anybody?

cerulean burrow
#

Are you able to choose at least a Ryzen processor? and maybe an HDD to go along with the SSD?

formal plover
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I will probably get a hard drive

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The reason i dont get a ryzen cpu is it would either require a gpu or be more expensive

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I plan on upgrading to a ryzen 5 2600 later though

cerulean burrow
#

If you choose the Ryzen 5 2400G, it comes with integrated graphics

fast dust
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Any AMD processor with a "g" in the name has an igpu

stoic island
#

3200g, 3400g, etc

fast dust
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3000g, 200ge, 220ge

stoic island
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first gen ryzen ones, etc.

formal plover
#

I think ill stick with the 3000g for now and when it's time to upgrade, i can sell it

foggy hazel
#

just a FYI, there is very little chance of you getting anything for the 3000g down the line.

lyric thistle
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spare CPU 🕺

zenith glacier
#

Hey

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What you do with old coolant

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I have it in my dirty bucket

lyric thistle
#

tasty snacc

zenith glacier
#

Lol

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Flushed successfully and changed it beautiful white cloud

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@sudden turret I am not sure if you rem me

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That you suggested me to try ek cloud white

sudden turret
#

I do

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and wow! nice!! @zenith glacier

fiery pier
#

I need help with a build I just finished. Where is the best chat to post in to get help?

zenith glacier
#

Thank you @sudden turret

eager chasm
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@formal plover NGL, just a Athlon 3000G won't do much outside of be a really cheap office computer, it might play some mild 2D games or some ancient 3D ones if gaming is your goal.

sudden turret
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@fiery pier yeah whats up

lyric thistle
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what about Android games @eager chasm ?

formal plover
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Ryoku im broke

eager chasm
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i know I'm just telling you how it is incase you expected anything more out of it

formal plover
#

Ok

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It should run fsx

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My pentium g620 does

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2 cores 2.6ghz no HT

lyric thistle
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I think my E-450 ran FSX

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poorly, but it ran

fiery pier
#

@iambox I have a very simple build that the other night started shutting off randomly after a few minutes or so. I went into the bios to look at temps. They all look good. Could it be the power supply?

eager chasm
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what's your PSU wattage and parts?

formal plover
#

Ryoku, should i just get an old i5 and a cheap gpu instead?

eager chasm
#

no

formal plover
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The reason i went with the 3000g is because its b450

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Very upgradable

eager chasm
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I wish you luck with your upgrading later on 🙂

formal plover
#

What do you reccomend I do?

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I have like $600 and my birthday's in 28 days

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But i dpubt my parents would let me spend all my money on a pc

lyric thistle
#

3000G will get you up and running, and you will have that as a back up/spare CPU when you get the stacks to upgrade down the line

formal plover
#

Ok

lyric thistle
#

it won't be great performance, but it's a decent dual core from what I can tell 👀

formal plover
woeful elm
#

Thats a funny sentence

lyric thistle
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xd

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how much is the PSU?

formal plover
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Im actually looking at the 450 br

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Its $40 on the evag website

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Its out of stock though

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Maybe i could get it cheaper on wednesday

lyric thistle
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ah

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another option is the CX 450

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might be about the same price idunno

formal plover
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That's $55, right?

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I think it is

lyric thistle
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yeah it is

woeful elm
#

Worth

foggy hazel
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@formal plover go caseless

woeful elm
#

Damn

formal plover
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I think thats cutting corners

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Ooh

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I know what i can do!

foggy hazel
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if you say ram, then no.

formal plover
#

You know how on ebay cpu and motherboard boxes are selling for like $10 each?

foggy hazel
#

best of luck with that

woeful elm
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Lol

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You could use the mobo box as a test bench wym

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XD

formal plover
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True

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But id like to get that case while its still 44

lyric thistle
#

screw it to the wall

foggy hazel
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there is no add-in gpu, so the amount of stress/risk on the board being without a case is very very low

fiery pier
#

@sudden turret I tried to tag you in my response
Sorry I'm new to this

formal plover
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Do you really need an ssd

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Causd its like $55

foggy hazel
#

@fiery pier you need to supply a list of parts, or we cannot really comment

woeful elm
#

Yes

formal plover
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I found a 120gb one for $15

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Its out of stock

foggy hazel
#

it is also a horrible ssd

formal plover
#

Oh

woeful elm
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Sum ssd good, sum bad. You arent getting a good ssd for $15

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It wont last for very long

formal plover
#

The $15 one is sandisk

foggy hazel
#

you say that as if that means its good?

formal plover
#

I dont know much about ssd brands

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All i know is crucial is good

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I think

foggy hazel
#

there are plenty of ways you could learn about it

lyric thistle
fiery pier
#

@foggy hazel
Ryzen 3 3200g
ASRock B450m-hdv r4
8Gb ram
128gb sad
Windows 10 64 bit
Very simple build

safe field
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brand =/= quality

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for the love of all good things that's never how it works with PC parts

sudden turret
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yeah Zro the better descriptive you are, the better we can point you in the direction to possible fix

safe field
#

the only possible exception I can think of is Samsung SSDs

lyric thistle
#

the pinned message by Demonmit1

safe field
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and they're hella overpriced

fiery pier
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@sudden turret oh and a evga 600w Br power supply

safe field
#

@formal plover their MX500 and P1 are great options

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BX500 is bleh

lyric thistle
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yeah Samsung SSDs are the Samsung of the SSD world

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wait

woeful elm
#

Wait

safe field
formal plover
#

Ok

safe field
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BX500 is actual bleh

foggy hazel
#

@fiery pier the BR power supply is not exactly known for being good

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@safe field less jokes, and bs in here please

formal plover
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So, i should get crucial instead of kingston and the cx instead of the br?

foggy hazel
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@formal plover for the psu side, the cx is definitely a nicer model

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for the ssd, its not that simple

safe field
#

Again, it depends on the actual type of Kingston and Crucial drives

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Not everything either of those companies puts their names on is magically good or trash

formal plover
#

I wish i could find a better deal on memory, you can usually get ddr4 3600 for $70

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On newegg

foggy hazel
safe field
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You would also be much better served by avoiding generalizations about other types of parts in the future that are based solely on the company that sells them

formal plover
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Ok

safe field
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All of these companies have budget and premium offerings

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Good, questionable, and outright bad products

fiery pier
#

@foggy hazel I have a cheap 450w no name power supply in my backup. Could I swap them to troubleshoot without fear of damaging anything?
I'm a graphic artist and need a working computer.

formal plover
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The mx is expensive

safe field
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Wasn't always like that

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Unfortunately with how things are right now...

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What budget/size are you looking for this

formal plover
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Really depends

safe field
#

On?

formal plover
#

Performance

foggy hazel
#

@fiery pier yes, you should be able to, nothing really eats power in your system

formal plover
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And how much my parents are willing to give me as a bday gift

foggy hazel
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@fiery pier and just to 100% verify. The system worked FINE, until yesterday?

safe field
#

priestded well it seems you don't have an exact budget in mind then.

formal plover
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Yep

fiery pier
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@foggy hazel power supply mounted fan up or fan down?

formal plover
#

Are adata ssds decent?

safe field
#

Again with generalizing.

formal plover
#

Or how about tcsunbow x3?

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X3

safe field
#

The spreadsheet pinned in #storage-devices is by far the most comprehensive SSD resource on the internet and it's maintained by /u/NewMaxx

foggy hazel
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@fiery pier depends on your case

safe field
#

You can reference that or go to his subreddit at /r/NewMaxx for in-depth SSD reviews.

formal plover
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Ok

foggy hazel
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if it has a cutout on the bottom, you point the fan in that direction @fiery pier

fiery pier
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@foggy hazel I have the aerocool cylon mini

foggy hazel
#

2sec

formal plover
#

Naed, the only reason i dont like the cx is that if you mount it upside down, the cables arent on the side closest to the back of the case

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But what am i talking about, cable management will be non existant in my first build

foggy hazel
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@fiery pier based on their product page, there is a fan grill in the bottom, so you face it fan down.

fiery pier
#

Is that enough clearance to keep it cool?

foggy hazel
#

aye

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no problem

#

the feet on that case are massive

sudden turret
#

Went ahead and gave you regular role Zro, post a picture of your build.

fiery pier
#

Because 2 days ago I left my computer on all day (I never do that). I came home and....dead

sudden turret
#

hmm... dead... or stuck in sleep mode.

formal plover
#

How come i have to install new drivers every month on my brothers pc?

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Cause he'll randomly get black screens and his audio will cut out

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Is there a way to make it not do that?

foggy hazel
#

sounds like Pebcac

formal plover
#

?

fiery pier
#

@sudden turret it turns on for random periods of time.
Could be 5 minutes. Could be an hour

sudden turret
#

and that is a new PSU?

#

sounds faulty

zenith glacier
#

Finally the pc is set and sitting beautiful

foggy hazel
#

@fiery pier just to verify, this is only since the issue you came in here with right?

sudden turret
#

@zenith glacier dooooooooooooooood.

fiery pier
#

Yes

zenith glacier
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I know! Lol

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Cloud white looks amazing

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Way better than blue

sudden turret
#

told ya 🙂

foggy hazel
#

@fiery pier how long before this, has the system been working as intended?

zenith glacier
fiery pier
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3 weeks @foggy hazel

zenith glacier
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Gotta have RGB!

foggy hazel
#

as mentioned earlier, try the other PSU

zenith glacier
#

Oh psu problem??

sudden turret
#

sounds like it

foggy hazel
#

because the fact that is has been working rules out most assembly errors @fiery pier

zenith glacier
#

Tell me short story.

foggy hazel
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@zenith glacier scroll up :)

sudden turret
#

lol

zenith glacier
#

Yea

foggy hazel
#

see, super short

sudden turret
#

random restart, not turning on.

zenith glacier
#

My husband had bad psu off and on

sudden turret
#

sometimes stays on for 5mins, or 5 hours

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temps are good.

fiery pier
#

Cpu never got above 47.5 celcius

zenith glacier
#

So we had to use my psu

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It works fine on my psu

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That how we found out

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We ordered new one different one. No problems since

#

Hmm sounds like psu farting. What kind of psu?

fiery pier
#

EVGA 600w Br

zenith glacier
#

Could be low watts?

fiery pier
#

Ryzen 3 3200g
ASRock b450
Ssd
Power supply

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And of course short string of led, and led built into case

zenith glacier
#

Basic build?

#

Hmm

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Check psu cable to make tight

fiery pier
#

@zenith glacier
Used the power cable on my backup. Worked perfectly

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I think my HIGH dollar EVGA PSU is now a paperweight

woeful elm
#

How did ya do that

foggy hazel
#

@fiery pier it might be a high dollar unit for you, that does not make it a good one

fiery pier
#

@foggy hazel what a way to make me feel bad. Lol

foggy hazel
#

its just fact

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sugar coating it is not going to help

fiery pier
#

That's why I added the lol

sudden turret
#

should still be covered under warranty

fiery pier
#

I'm not upset, just trying to get my money making machine back online

sudden turret
#

evga has decent warranty

warm tartan
#

Hey guys which of this two is a better combo in Canadian. i7-9700F|GTX 1660 or Ryzen 7 3700x|RTX 2060

fiery pier
#

@sudden turret yeah trying to get them online

sudden turret
fiery pier
#

@warm tartan for what's it's worth I would go with the Ryzen build

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@sudden turret yeah, I emailed them. They told me to reset my Cmos

sudden turret
#

yeah just go through the hoops

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they have to ask those questions before they say yeah ok its brokeded.

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then they make it seem like they figured it out, and ask you to send it in 😄

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had that happen once.

fiery pier
#

I figured that.
I had a nice clean minimalist build. My wires and clean. For my first build I am proud of myself.
And, because of how I routes cables. I have to take my motherboard out too

#

Off topic. What is a good graphic card to add to this?
And does anyone have a good one at a good price?

eager chasm
#

most of the mid-range GPUs on both sides are pretty good value ATM

kind shuttle
#

Hey dudes

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My fractal focus G case came w 2 preinsyalled fans

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Do I need a 3rd?

foggy hazel
#

need? not as such

kind shuttle
#

What should my fan setup be

#

1 intake 1 exhaust

#

Or 2 intake

foggy hazel
#

as it is right now

kind shuttle
#

Ok

lyric thistle
foggy hazel
#

which is one intake, one out

kind shuttle
#

It came 2 intake

foggy hazel
#

the back fan should be turned for out

#

from the factory that is

teal basin
#

I game on a laptop. Once we all go back to work i want to build a pc

#

any guides/ channels you all would recommend ? feel free to @ me

eager chasm
#

@teal basin well depends on your budget. you can build a really basic office work PC for around $100 all the way up to 4K AAA gaming beasts for $2000 and up

kind shuttle
#

What does the AAA mean

eager chasm
#

Triple A games

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the big budget games that (usually) need higher tier parts for running on ultra on 4K and/or high refresh

kind shuttle
#

Ah

#

Do I need a mount to move a fan in my case?

eager chasm
#

no, just a screw driver

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you should have 1 in the front for intake and one at the back for exhaust

kind shuttle
#

Right I’m trying to move one to the back

#

But there isn’t anything to screw into to hold fan in place

eager chasm
#

there should be

#

can you take a picture of where you are trying to put it?

kind shuttle
#

Sure

eager chasm
#

there are literally 4 holes right in the corners of that grid where you screw it to

kind shuttle
#

No I see that

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The problem is the holes aren’t threaded so the fan just sits on the screws

eager chasm
#

yea

#

that'

kind shuttle
#

If the case were to tilt right now the fan would fall off inside

eager chasm
#

that's how it's supposed to be

#

you screw the fan to those holes

#

the head of the screw wont fit through

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or shouldn't if you are using the right ones

kind shuttle
#

But nothing is threaded so the screws don’t screw into anything

eager chasm
#

they screw into the fan, the holes don't need to be threaded

kind shuttle
#

I know what ur saying

eager chasm
#

you are using the wrong screws

kind shuttle
#

I’m using the ones that the fan had on the other side

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The manual for the case doesn’t say anything about fans

eager chasm
#

you are using the wrong ones to mount a fan there

kind shuttle
#

I’ll try to find others

#

Screws need threaded holes to screw

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The fan doesn’t have threads on it and neither does the hole in the case

#

That’s why I’m confused

eager chasm
#

the screws you need will still grab onto the fans, think of them as self-threading

kind shuttle
#

Ah

eager chasm
#

if you don't have any of the right ones you might need to buy some

kind shuttle
#

Damn it

eager chasm
kind shuttle
#

Yea I don’t got those

eager chasm
#

the kind of screws you have are for a different mounting system, I had some holes that used them on the front of my last case, I took a drill and made them into regular fan mounting holes

cursive wharf
#

They usually come with the fans

eager chasm
#

unless the fans are pre-installed with the other kind

kind shuttle
#

The fans came preinstalled on the front which uses those screws

cursive wharf
#

So did they screw into the case or an AIO?

eager chasm
#

case

#

some cases have them in the front

kind shuttle
#

The front has a mount thing

eager chasm
#

but like I said I took a drill and modded my case to the regular kind

kind shuttle
#

Well I guess I’ll put this one back in the front

#

Should I get a third fan for the back

eager chasm
#

buy a new fan for the back

kind shuttle
#

And if so

#

Which one

eager chasm
#

any cheap fan will do

#

well almost any

lyric thistle
kind shuttle
#

Haha

teal basin
#

@eager chasm I would say my budget would sit at about $1000 total with any chipping or tools i may need to buy, I've seen some guides on youtube but don't know how much to trust them

eager chasm
#

USUALLY only tool needed is a common #2 Phillips screwdriver

#

if your household doesn't have one that's kinda a huge oversight in everyday life Dumb

#

but yea $1000 will build you a pretty decent PC

lyric thistle
#

use fingers smh

eager chasm
#

for a little bit more you could upgrade to something like a 2070

#

well it's $991 without an active promo, and $1009 without the rebates

meager relic
#

Ok guys. I need help if you don't mind... I haz this in front of me... Please ignore the shoes . Iambox insisted I wore shoes..

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lyric thistle
#

sh o es

eager chasm
#

take the PSU back out

#

push all the cables through the cutout in the back and put the PSU back in

meager relic
#

What cutout

eager chasm
#

that will help massively

#

is there any sort of hole or anything near the PSU that leads to the other side behind everything else?

meager relic
eager chasm
#

there is

#

take the other panel off

teal basin
#

@eager chasm you're a legend, that website is gold

meager relic
#

Ok

#

Done

eager chasm
subtle halo
#

xD go go evily

meager relic
eager chasm
#

no

#

at the bottom of the case, near the harddrive cage

meager relic
#

I'm gonna take a picture, can you please show me

eager chasm
meager relic
#

Ahhh

#

Ok that

eager chasm
#

from the front pass all the cables through there before you put the PSU in

#

it will make managing them WAY easier

#

you COULD leave GPU power out and have it come straight up of you want since there is no shroud, but that's up to you

meager relic
eager chasm
#

looks correct

#

is the PSU fan facing up or down?

#

it usually goes down

meager relic
subtle halo
#

👏

meager relic
#

Lol

eager chasm
lyric thistle
#

powah

eager chasm
#

now just 98% of the rest of the build to do 😉

meager relic
#

Fun

#

May I ask what's next

#

I don't even know how to screw it in

eager chasm
#

well usually you want to set up your mother board with as much as you can before you put it in the case

autumn wolf
#

cpu and ram

#

pretty much

#

and any nvme/ssd

#

that goes onto the board that you have

eager chasm
#

oh, the PSU use screws in from the back near the switch, should be 4 holes that line up

meager relic
#

I just noticed that

eager chasm
#

if I don't answer right away I'm in the middle of some MMO quests

meager relic
#

Lol

#

First screw in place...

#

O geeze these screws are annoying

eager chasm
#

welp they are the screws used for everything except M.2 and the fans

sinful scaffold
#

Still have not figured out why my GPU will not P the G

#

Lord save me before I yeet this rig into the woods

eager chasm
#

what?

sinful scaffold
#

5600XT will not run, don't know why

#

No video at all

#

Not sure where to begin looking for the root of the issue

meager relic
sudden turret
#

manual no?

eager chasm
#

looks good

#

@sinful scaffold a few sanity check questions:
did you plug it into to top 16X slot on your MB?
Are you plugging the HDMI/DP into the GPU?
Is your computer even posting at all?

meager relic
#

Didn't see one

#

O wait nvm

sinful scaffold
#

I've tried both slots, yes, and yes? I think

#

CPU is fine, RAM is fine, PSU is fine

eager chasm
#

is the power plug for the GPU all the way in?

sinful scaffold
#

The only thing I'm getting from the GPU is a single blink on the LED, but only when I turn the PSU off

meager relic
#

Nope.. wrong screw.... I'm using drive screws

sinful scaffold
#

Nothing while turning it on or while it's running

eager chasm
#

what CPU do you have?

sinful scaffold
#

Ryzen 5 1600 AF

little leaf
#

I'm looking for a build about 1400 dollars before windows or periferals

stoic island
#

Monitor or no

little leaf
#

no

stoic island
#

For gaming or other tasks

little leaf
#

gaming

stoic island
#

How much storage do you estimate you need

little leaf
#

well from a previous pc I got a 1tb ssd so I guess 500 gbs of ssd more

meager relic
#

Ryoku when you have a chance I need Mobo installed

little leaf
#

@stoic island would you think that a 120mm radiator would be enough for a 9700k

eager chasm
#

no

stoic island
#

650w rmx for 240$

little leaf
#

hmm the 550w is about 114

stoic island
eager chasm
#

@meager relic you'll want to set up as much on your MB as you can before you put it in the case. Installing CPU, cooler, RAM, and M.2 SSD if you have one

stoic island
#

Yea, don't install it into the case before putting as much on it as you can

#

because it's harder to work on it when it's in the case

#

also try to test it outside of case first.

meager relic
#

I have already done so

eager chasm
#

that list you could upgrade to a Meshify C and still be on target

meager relic
#

I attached cpu

little leaf
#

@stoic island would a one radiator water cooler work for i79700k?

meager relic
#

Ram etc

stoic island
#

I would advise against it

#

120mm rads are not really worth it

little leaf
#

because I have a cooler master 120mm water cooler lying around

eager chasm
#

a 120mm RAD is not advised to i7, i9, R7, or R9 parts

stoic island
#

Also, if you're building new, I'd suggest building ryzen

little leaf
#

aight

stoic island
#

Old AIOs are also not a great idea, unless you know you kept it in good condition

#

otherwise the lifespan on the pump might screw with you, and condensation over time

eager chasm
#

@meager relic then you will want to setup your stand-offs in your case to match the holes on your MB

little leaf
#

it was working fine for a non oc i7

#

a pretty recent one

stoic island
#

(If it's been sitting around for like 4 years, it's not gonna have too much more time to live, if you know what I mean.)

little leaf
#

ye

meager relic
#

That's the thing ryoku... I think I got a wrong case .. none of this will fit..

#

I follow naeds advice

#

But I don't know how this will work

little leaf
#

@stoic island I thinks I've had it for about 2 years

#

It hasn't been used and I just recently tested it

meager relic
#

Ahh ok nvm

#

I figured out how it'll work

stoic island
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You using it still makes it used lol, but it might be okay...

little leaf
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lol I guess

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on a friends pc I tested it was about 50c under full load for extend period of time

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it was the non oc 9700

stoic island
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Cooling potential is fine, I'm just warning you about the longevity of the AIO itself

little leaf
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ah I see

foggy hazel
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@meager relic its NOT the wrong case, you have just refused to read the manual so far

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and i have been telling you, for 4 days now? to read the manual

celest horizon
meager relic
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@naed and you sir are correct

foggy hazel
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@meager relic and just in case you thought it was a joke when i told you to read the manual, it was not

meager relic
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I wasn't...

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Ok

foggy hazel
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the manual is included for a VERY good reason.

meager relic
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I'm gonna shut up

stoic island
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:rtfm:
aw thats not a server emoji

foggy hazel
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you can ask all the questions you want. But there are limits to what we can do

stoic island
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The manual is boring, and contains some unnecessary bits, but you're allowed to jump around to find your information.

eager chasm
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@meager relic got your standoff s done?

little leaf
stoic island
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ow

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don't do that

little leaf
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not enough bang for the buck?

stoic island
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Intel is very expensive.

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(Starting from the top of the list)

eager chasm
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use an M.2 if you dont already have one

sinful scaffold
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Okay, so turns out I did not have my CPU plugged into the 4x4 on my PSU. I was getting a red light on the mobo for that

little leaf
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ik but the bench mark shows that if you going for best gaming

stoic island
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The ram is unnecessary, but also bad.

sinful scaffold
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So I plugged it in, and now I am instead getting a red light above BOOT on the mobo

stoic island
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You don't need 32gb for gaming, and Team ram is bad...

sinful scaffold
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Do I just flash bios now?

little leaf
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aight what about gskill @stoic island

stoic island
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Please just take a look at my list

eager chasm
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G skill ripjaws is pretty common

stoic island
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I see an issue with everything on that list xD

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(other than psu)

foggy chasm
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Anyone have a good budget gaming build they can link?

stoic island
little leaf
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@stoic island you don't like nzxt?

stoic island
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Yea, bad airflow.

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You can afford a much better GPU if you swap to ryzen

eager chasm
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but really if you are going for a 9700K you will get like 2% less performance for like $100 cheaper from a 3700X

stoic island
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That ssd is bad and dramless

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I slapped in a 3600

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close enough for gaming.

deep skiff
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+1 for 3600

eager chasm
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and you wont need to buy a cooler with ryzen either so MORE money saved

stoic island
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Mhm, Ryzen stock cooler is good enough, much better than intel stock.

little leaf
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ok new build 3700x 2070s 1tb m.2 cosair rmx 550 80+gold

stoic island
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no no no

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just take a look at my list

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3600+2080s

little leaf
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won't be a bottle neck even if I don't oc?

stoic island
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No

eager chasm
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Intel is "better for gaming" if you dont mine throwing hundreds of dollars extra at just 2% better

stoic island
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3600 does not bottleneck 2080s

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Also bottlenecking is pretty arbitrary

little leaf
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ok how about going with the 3600x

deep skiff
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having a better gpu than cpu is preferred for gaming tier wise

little leaf
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its not that much more

deep skiff
eager chasm
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as long as your CPU isn't hot garbage anything from the last 3 gens R3/i5 and up wont bottleneck a 2080

deep skiff
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blue is 9900k+2080 super
red is 3600+2080 ti

buoyant flame
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Love to see those results

little leaf
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hmm ok I have been givin much to consider

eager chasm
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if you can save money on the CPU and put it towards a better GPU it will perform better overall, usually

fair river
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can someone help me build a pc??

eager chasm
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step right up, next in line XD

fair river
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okie

little leaf
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@stoic island if I were to cut down on the gpu and go to 2070s and then go with the 3600 could I do that to save more money?

stoic island
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... Then what is the budget you're trying to go for?

deep skiff
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yeah

stoic island
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I thought you wanted the most bang for you buck at 1400$

little leaf
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so I could spend a little more on the monitor

celest horizon
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That's why I tell so many people to go with a 3600 now and upgrade later if needed.

eager chasm
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@little leaf Most games don't look like this on the CPU, so you don't need all the cores, USUALLY.... I'm playing an exception where cores matter.

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deep skiff
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3600 basically the sweet spot for gaming, and ryzen has a great update path

stoic island
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Okay... So what is your total budget including monitor?

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because we can optimize everything for you, including the monitor.

little leaf
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1500

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I have mouse and keyboard and headset though

stoic island
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2080s, including monitor.

eager chasm
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Black Desert is the only game I say get as many cores as you can, almost all other games a Ryzen 5 is more than enough

fair river
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can anyone help me to make a pc

eager chasm
stoic island
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Well, It's in a weird spot with 2080s and 1080p, but a good 1440p monitor is expensive.

fair river
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ANYONE?

eager chasm
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yes

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we can help you, lets start with your budget

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what are you gonna throw at it

fair river
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well my budget is $2800 Aud but i already know what mouse and keyboard i want and that together brings up to $268 Aud

eager chasm
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I'll just put you down for "money is no object" category lol

buoyant flame
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Lol

fair river
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LOL

eager chasm
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you can pretty much get top-tier at that point

buoyant flame
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Newegg.com type is gpu, search highest to lowest price

fair river
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but i dont know what to get but someone told me that AMD is good?

eager chasm
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does that budget include the monitor, mouse and keyboard, or do you already have those?

fair river
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i need to get them

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but i know which keyboard and mouse i want

eager chasm
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still can get a stupidly good system

fair river
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Oh really

buoyant flame
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For sure

fair river
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but i am in Aus

eager chasm
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still recommend a AMD ryzen

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lets you throw more money at the rest of it

fair river
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okie

foggy hazel
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@eager chasm 2800 AUD is NOT money is no object, not by a long shot

fair river
eager chasm
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@foggy hazel it was a joke

foggy hazel
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also, keep in mind, availability is bonkers over there

stoic island
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What's with the AIO?

foggy hazel
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and that was before all this

stoic island
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(instead of stock?)

buoyant flame
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It might be better if you put the actual pcpp link in here @fair river

fair river
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okie

foggy hazel
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wrong link

eager chasm
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I wouldn't put a single fan AIO on that

stoic island
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Lemme just make an Australian pcpartpicker list

fair river
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ok thanks

foggy hazel
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@fair river see the link in the light yellow field

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thats the one you should copy here :)

fair river
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like that?

foggy hazel
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aye

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and that is a 2960 aud build

meager relic
eager chasm
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I'd sugest a tower with a bit more airflow, not a fan of solid front personally

meager relic
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The gpu

eager chasm
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you used the wrong slot, use the top one

foggy hazel
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@fair river your budget, does that include mouse and keyboard and monitor?

meager relic
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Ok

fair river
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yeah

eager chasm
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the lower slot on asrock is disabled by default

foggy hazel
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and it has to be that mouse and that keyboard?

fair river
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well it could be change but i do like the Corsair K68 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard and the Glorious PC Gaming Race MODEL O Wired Optical Mouse

foggy hazel
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if that is what you want, that is what you want

fair river
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okie

foggy hazel
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are those the only "locked" parts?

fair river
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yeah

foggy hazel
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fair

stoic island
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pc for 2400 aud

foggy hazel
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newegg shipping MIGHT be bonkers

stoic island
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?

foggy hazel
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as in, legit, run for the hills bonkers

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i have seen them do 50+ aud for a ssd in shipping

stoic island
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damn

foggy hazel
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just mentioning it, because that can skew things a LOT

stoic island
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definally does