#building-and-recc-chat | Newegg | Page 501

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:16 PM

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ya :D

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:16 PM

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@white shale yes, the cooler designs matter for stuff like noise, but generally, performance wise, its very close

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Only real difference between different 2070 in terms of performance is if they did any factory OC.

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:17 PM

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@unkempt ibex https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/define/define-c-tempered-glass/black/ <- what is your take on something like that?

Fractal Design

Define C Tempered Glass — Fractal Design

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Just a question, but meshify C or define c?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:19 PM

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that is why i am asking him @stoic island

white shale Apr 20, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Next item is either a new chair or main monitor so I can move my other monitor to the side! And I ordered the MSI GeForce RTX 2070 DirectX 12 RTX 2070 Armor 8g OCV1

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:19 PM

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@foggy hazel looks good but not a fan of the front panel

white shale Apr 20, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Not sure about the factory OC if any there, I'm newish to building PC's xD

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Not too picky so it doesnt matter a ton

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:20 PM

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@unkempt ibex look again :)

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:20 PM

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wdym @foggy hazel

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:20 PM

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@white shale dont worry about it :)

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:20 PM

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I have the MSI Geforce RTX 2070 Duke OC :D

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:21 PM

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@unkempt ibex https://www.fractal-design.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Define-C-TG_3-810x810.jpg

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Factory OCs doesn't really matter, they barely make a difference

white shale Apr 20, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Thank you all so much!

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:21 PM

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i cant see the fron panel @foggy hazel

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Nearly all tower cases have fans on the front. The panel might look solid, but usually there are mesh parts on/near the front that let it take in air.

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:21 PM

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@unkempt ibex i misread your earlier post :)

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:21 PM

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ah

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:22 PM

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(I misread it too xD)

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:22 PM

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oh okay ig whatever does the best/helps airflow would suit me best

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:23 PM

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@unkempt ibex https://www.fractal-design.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Define-C_14.jpg

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that is the panel itself

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:23 PM

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ah ok

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thats fine

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i think it would be cooler if u could see the fans in the front but doesnt bother me

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:23 PM

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again, you can get whatever case you want really

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if you want a pink one with unicorns? sure!

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it is your choice :)

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:24 PM

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what website would you recommend using for cases?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:24 PM

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(like this one?)

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Newegg works

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:24 PM

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yeah sure!

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:24 PM

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whatever really

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:24 PM

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but those fans look pretty big haha

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the liquid cooling looks pretty sick too

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:25 PM

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So you want RGB on the front of the case, and semi-transparent mesh or glass on the front panel?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Yes

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:25 PM

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(Just trying to figure out what you want)

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:25 PM

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of cource

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:26 PM

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If this wasn't out of stock, this would be good for you?
https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-masterbox-mb311l-argb-micro-atx-tower/p/N82E16811119380

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:26 PM

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yeah looks super coo;l

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cool*

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:26 PM

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board + ram + psu = 265-ish

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so plenty of money left for case

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Well that one is mATX ... just noticed that

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:27 PM

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i can find a matx board without a problem

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it doesnt matter one bit

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:27 PM

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whatever case is pretty much fine to me

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:28 PM

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But anyways naed you know any good rgb cases rn?

royal spindle Apr 20, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Best mobo for 2.75 slot gpus? wanting to build an i9-9900k with dual evga 2080 super xc ultra

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:28 PM

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i dont do the whole RGB stuff

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:28 PM

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I mean, the H500 in that first image could be good

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:28 PM

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i prefer windowless cases with decent cooling :)

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:28 PM

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p400a is pretty expensive rn sadly

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:29 PM

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what should my budget be on cases im looking rn

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:29 PM

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I mean

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right now you have a lot of wiggle room for a case

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:29 PM

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yeah

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:30 PM

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basically any case that's not outrageous

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:31 PM

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i mean i want to go with a theme like that goes with my GPU

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:31 PM

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?

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I thought your GPU was black?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:31 PM

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it is

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https://www.newegg.com/matte-white-black-nzxt-h-series-h510-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811146317?Item=9SIAG1P9UX0724&Description=case&cm_re=case-_-11-146-317-_-Product

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this might work, white and black maybe idk

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:31 PM

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ow don't go nzxt cases

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they got bad airflow

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:31 PM

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ah ok

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:32 PM

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https://www.asrock.com/mb/photo/B365 Phantom Gaming 4(L2).png <- this is a suggestion for a mainboard

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that kinda matches what the Omen has

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:32 PM

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does B365 allow for higher mem freq or anything?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:32 PM

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sensible pricing

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:32 PM

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because b360 doesn't

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:33 PM

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its cpu limited Mr1111

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:33 PM

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huh

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:33 PM

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yes, it can go over, but doesnt matter much

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:33 PM

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alright

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td 500 mesh is nowhere to be found....

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But ima just leave this as my suggestion for now
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterCase-Mid-Tower-Controller/dp/B07DRVHBWK/

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:34 PM

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whatever case is fine with me

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i like it but is 104 worth it?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:35 PM

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that is up to you to decide

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its very close to a purely "visual" choice

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Yea. I'm looking in the ~100$ price range for cases rn

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:35 PM

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i have a budget of 450 give or take and i want to get the best performance with good airflow

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:36 PM

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H500 with the mesh front has very good airflow as far as I'm concerned

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:36 PM

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ok thats fine

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:37 PM

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@unkempt ibex currently, the parts you want are about 370 usd

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with the case

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:37 PM

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what motherboard now the one u send a bit ago

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wdym the parts im gunna sell

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Heres the GN review on the H500
https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3334-cooler-master-h500-case-review-recommended

Cooler Master H500 Case Review: Strongly Recommended at Its Lower P...

The newest Cooler Master Mastercase H500[X] case is the H500. Not the H500P, or the H500P Mesh, or the H500M. Just plain H500, but not the identically-named NZXT H500, or the H500i, or the Thermaltake A500 we saw at Computex, nor the Corsair 500D. If NZXT comes out with an H50...

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:37 PM

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no, the parts that you need to buy :)

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RZf8CL

System Builder

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that is a suggestion for parts

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:38 PM

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ok sure ill do that case

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oh so i have a ton of wiggle room

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could i get better ram?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:38 PM

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btw @stoic island that board is close to the TUF Pro - Gaming in feature set

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:39 PM

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or i also need a cpu cooler right?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Oh really

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:39 PM

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for a decent price also

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yes, we need some kind of cooler @unkempt ibex

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Interesting, I guess that should be the go-to board for intel?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:39 PM

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depends on the generation support you need @stoic island

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:39 PM

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what about i forget the nam ebut its a water cooler and its like 80 bucks

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Ah

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Arctic freezer II?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:40 PM

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@unkempt ibex i didnt make a cooler choice, because i wanted you to settle on a case first

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:40 PM

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That's the only good lower price range AIO I know of

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:40 PM

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ohh

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yeah the cooler master case looks good

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:40 PM

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because case can limit what cooler etc

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:41 PM

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That case supports up to 240mm on top.

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:41 PM

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how many fans on top 3?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:41 PM

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2 fans on top

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:41 PM

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ok

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:41 PM

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one on the back

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IF you're going with an AIO, the AIO comes with fans.

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:42 PM

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so we got the parts basically

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can i get better ram?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:42 PM

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more ?

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faster?

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pinker?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:43 PM

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i mean if more can help performance yes

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and i proably want faster tbh

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Naed, what is with you and pink xD

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:43 PM

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that is as fast as it goes really

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:44 PM

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what abou tlike the speeds of 3200

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i want pretty much the best ram

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:44 PM

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different board then

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:44 PM

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or whatever would make the maximum performace

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pretty much for this i want performace and cooling

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:45 PM

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https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-8700k-coffee-lake-memory-performance-benchmark-analysis/

TechPowerUp

Intel i7-8700K Coffee Lake Memory Benchmark Analysis

We take a close look at memory speeds, latencies, and command rate on Intel's latest Core i7-8700K with Z370. Scenarios tested include fail-safe 2133 MHz, the platform default of 2666 MHz, and overclocked memory speeds ranging from 3000 MHz to 4000 MHz - at various timings.

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take a good hard look at that article

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notice the green line

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:47 PM

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green line?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:47 PM

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read the article, it will make sense :)

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:47 PM

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i did

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:47 PM

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no, you didnt

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:47 PM

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ok i skimmed it

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:47 PM

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its a 11 page article, you didnt read it

sudden turret Apr 20, 2020, 8:47 PM

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lol.

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:47 PM

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go back, read it

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:47 PM

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there are multiple pages

📎 unknown.png

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:47 PM

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i dont link things like that for "fun"

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:47 PM

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not just that page

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:48 PM

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its something you might benefit from too @stoic island

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Though I think this page might be the one you're looking for
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-8700k-coffee-lake-memory-performance-benchmark-analysis/9.html

TechPowerUp

Intel i7-8700K Coffee Lake Memory Benchmark Analysis

We take a close look at memory speeds, latencies, and command rate on Intel's latest Core i7-8700K with Z370. Scenarios tested include fail-safe 2133 MHz, the platform default of 2666 MHz, and overclocked memory speeds ranging from 3000 MHz to 4000 MHz - at various timings.

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:48 PM

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it answers a question you asked earlier :)

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Yea

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I'm looking now.

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:48 PM

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oh so 2666 runs the best?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Please read again :)

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Naed

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:49 PM

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2666 works the best?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:49 PM

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we should prob go for 3200mhz ram...

It's actually cheaper xDDD

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📎 unknown.png

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:49 PM

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what ever is the best im down

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:49 PM

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IDK why

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but it is

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:49 PM

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remember we are at like 380 my budget is around 450

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:50 PM

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@unkempt ibex just because you have room in a budget, does not mean you have to use it

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Sure but i want to have good performace

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:50 PM

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and you still dont have a cooler.

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:50 PM

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True

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:50 PM

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But anyways, it looks like from the article, frequency and latency trade blows?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:50 PM

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yes

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:50 PM

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aye

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:51 PM

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and, the "swing" of performance is about 7% from worst to best

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which is basically nothing

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:51 PM

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fair enough

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but still 3200mhz ram since it's cheaper at same latency? :p

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:51 PM

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and yes, whatever is cheaper of the ram

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ofc

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it will be clocked down anyway :)

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:52 PM

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also, the little research I did told me that aegis is basically ripjaw without as big a heatsink? is that true?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:52 PM

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so it will run 2666

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i honestly dont know

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but i would not be surprised :)

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Ok so whatever ram u guys think is best is fine

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Alright

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:53 PM

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@stoic island got a link for some?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:53 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232884

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Ok so that ram

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:54 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DqhqQq

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:54 PM

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side note, this is all I can find

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foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:54 PM

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that gives us that list

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now, cooler

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Should i do 32gb of ram or 16 fine

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:56 PM

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that is a question we can answer after the cooler question

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:56 PM

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Gotcha

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What cooler is the best

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:57 PM

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you dont remotely need "the best"

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its a fairly low heat cpu

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Hey guys I need some help with some last pieces for my pc build such as a power supply and any other recommendations can someone give a hand?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:57 PM

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At this point, it's just what looks "the best" to you.

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Yeah true

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Any decent cooler can do you good

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No need for AIOs, they're quite expensive relatively

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:58 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vhm8CL <- personal choice

System Builder

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:58 PM

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I like the u12s too, chromax makes it look nice.

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 8:59 PM

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and even that cooler is way overkill

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@lofty sequoia have you got a pcpp list?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Well, it's noctua stuff, it'll be reliable, and you can use it for many years and multiple builds.

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 9:00 PM

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That’s fine

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:00 PM

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i dont disagree with that @stoic island

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 9:00 PM

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What’s the difference from a liquid cooled and a noctura

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:00 PM

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@lofty sequoia send me the link as a pm, i will post it for you :)

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@unkempt ibex cost

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 9:00 PM

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(especially with Noctua offering to ship free upgrade brackets whenever you switch to a new platform, all you need at that point is thermal paste, and the cooler comes with a tube that is good for multiple applications.)

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:02 PM

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on behalf of @lofty sequoia https://secure.newegg.com/wishlist/sd/KFZ5QMzqZx0=

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 9:02 PM

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If you got some time, this is a good video to watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VzXHUTqE7E

YouTube

Gamers Nexus

Liquid Cooling vs. Air Cooling Benchmark In-Depth (NH-D15, NZXT X62...

We're answering the question of whether "liquid cooling or air cooling is better," ft. the Noctua NH-D15, Deepcool Assassin III, NZXT Kraken X62 / X72 (280mm, 360mm), and more.
Sponsor: Buy Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut on Amazon (https://geni.us/1D8Eeq) or Hydronaut paste (htt...

▶ Play video

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Interesting to say the least.

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:02 PM

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but, keep in mind, you really really really do NOT need a liquid cooler on your cpu @unkempt ibex

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 9:02 PM

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Gotcha then the noctura is fine

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So those parts look fine?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 9:03 PM

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@lofty sequoia I assume your budget is 1700$?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:03 PM

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aye @unkempt ibex

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 9:03 PM

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oh wait

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2000$?

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 9:03 PM

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@stoic island It's a bit more I just need to know which power supply and whatever else would be recommended for the build

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it can go a bit past 2K

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Well, is it alright I critique other parts of your build?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:04 PM

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does it have to be "all" newegg @lofty sequoia ?

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 9:04 PM

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go ahead @stoic island

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@foggy hazel I'll be using some parts from my current pc so not really.

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Alright, first, I'll move everything over to a pcpartpicker list, as I find that easiest to work with.

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 9:04 PM

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But for main parts I'd prefer new just in case

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:04 PM

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@stoic island i will make one for him

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Should I order the parts then

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 9:05 PM

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I mean moving the wishlist build to pcpp

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Huh

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 9:06 PM

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@foggy hazel sorry no it doesnt need to be, I dont mind purchasing from multiple sites

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Heres the list if you put everything in PCPP.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8XM8CL

System Builder

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So, which parts do you already own?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 9:07 PM

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The gpu and cpu

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 9:07 PM

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Alright, what is your budget for the upgrade?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 9:07 PM

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Selling everything else

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450

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 9:08 PM

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huh

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thats

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So you don't own the ssd, ram, mobo, or case?

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(marked the cpu and gpu as 0) This is already 700$.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/th2Ryk

System Builder

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 9:09 PM

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This will be a new build, I have a graphics card and a SSD already but Ill be keeping the ssd maybe selling my old card

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Um... Is the wishlist your current build or your planned build?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:10 PM

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@unkempt ibex you are ready to order the parts on YOUR list

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@stoic island i think you might have read one of them as the other :)

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 9:10 PM

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yea...

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 9:10 PM

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@stoic island MY wishlist is my new build project 🙂

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 9:11 PM

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I had a different motherboard

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:11 PM

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(now you know why i use the @ so much)

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 9:11 PM

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@foggy hazel where was the list u had

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:11 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vhm8CL @unkempt ibex here is yours :)

System Builder

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 9:12 PM

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@lofty sequoia So, What is the budget for everything else other than the CPU, GPU, and SSD?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Haha

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So order that list? @foggy hazel

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 9:12 PM

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(And please tell me anything else you own that you're planning to use again)

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 9:12 PM

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@foggy hazel If my current SSD has my OS and everything else can I just put that SSD into my new PC or will I have to buy windows 10 for the new PC?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:12 PM

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@unkempt ibex yes :) Remember, the CPU is just there to make sorting things easier :)

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@lofty sequoia you can keep your current license

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 9:13 PM

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@stoic island Just reusing the SSD I have inside and possibly the HDD for school and random file storage

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@foggy hazel Perfect

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 9:13 PM

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And Budget?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:13 PM

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and i think that is all you need @unkempt ibex ?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 9:14 PM

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I think so

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I mean I’m definitely gunna need help dissembling it and building it lmao

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 9:15 PM

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@stoic island roughly $2200 would be my ideal max but if I dont need anything else past this CPU fan I added to the list and a power supply im open to ideas

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 9:15 PM

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So do I need a usb to get my data from pc pc to me new

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@foggy hazel

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 9:15 PM

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huh alright

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:16 PM

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@unkempt ibex re: help pulling apart and putting back together. That is the easy part. So dont worry about that.
Re: Moving data: nope, the drives will be moved over.

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 9:17 PM

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@stoic island I should have more wattage than my pc requires but how much should i give or take on the matter?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:17 PM

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650w is imo max

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because 650 is way past what a way beefier system needs

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 9:17 PM

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@foggy hazel Sounds good I was gonna ask if i should just go with a 600

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 9:17 PM

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Yes, 650w is all you need unless you run dual GPU or HEDT CPU.

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:18 PM

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only reason that the previous system doesnt have a 550 is because of Covid

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Enermax revolution d.f is still in stock at 110$.

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 9:18 PM

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I mean would running a 1060 and a 2070 be a good idea? I should i only have the 2070 installed? Never had two installed at the same time

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:18 PM

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only one

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no benefit from the other one

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 9:19 PM

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@foggy hazel great

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:19 PM

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and dont worry about the @ part, that was only when we had two conversations going :)

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it just makes things a bit clearer in those situations :)

weak arrow Apr 20, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Hi can some one tell me if the pro m2 max is good

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Alright well I got my build to around $1750 is there any other recommendations someone would make to that list?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:20 PM

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@weak arrow see #cpus-mobo-and-memory

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 9:21 PM

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I would recommend NH-U12s as a CPU cooler if you haven't put one in yet

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 9:21 PM

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I had a master hyper 212 I'll take a look at that one

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:22 PM

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the Hyper 212 and the U12 are in very different leagues

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 9:22 PM

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sounds good I'll def go with the U12 then

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:23 PM

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its basically "just" physics :)

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a chunk of metal helps

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@lofty sequoia convenience wise, in the longer term, adding in a m.2 drive at some point might make life nicer for you

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 9:28 PM

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@foggy hazel do u think its gunna be a nice pc just wondering u seem like u know a lot

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:28 PM

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its going to be a decent rig yes :)

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Stable FPS?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:29 PM

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as stable as the parts can deliver yes

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Okay haha

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What’s your specs?

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 9:40 PM

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@foggy hazel Would it be easier to install those instead of the 2.5"? I have one of those and plan on installing that into my new PC upon completion.

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:41 PM

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well, the convenience part of m.2 is that there are no cables, and only 1 screw

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 9:42 PM

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I see, I have cables so personally I wouldnt mind plus this computer will be larger than my current small tower

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:43 PM

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aye aye, it is why i started the suggestion with "Convenience wise"

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Lastly do you have a recommendation for a 650W powersupply?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Revolution DF?

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@stoic island you got the link for it?

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 9:46 PM

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one sec

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https://www.amazon.com/Enermax-Revolution-Certified-Supply-ERF650AWT/dp/B07PB67ZS7

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Awesome, thanks you two!

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:47 PM

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you are very welcome :)

polar goblet Apr 20, 2020, 9:56 PM

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What difference does having a better motherboard make?
Comparing the
MSI MPG X570 gaming pro $259
MSI MPG X570 gaming edge $200

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 9:57 PM

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@polar goblet MSI has a "add to compare" button on their site :)

polar goblet Apr 20, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Only difference is
Pcie x1
LAN

So just a better WiFi connection?

sullen spoke Apr 20, 2020, 10:00 PM

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vrms too

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the pro has better power, but it might only make a difference if you are getting a high end cpu like 3900x or above and overclocking

polar goblet Apr 20, 2020, 10:01 PM

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I’m going to
3900x or 3950x
Overclock every now and then for mining when I’m not at home

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 10:08 PM

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@foggy hazel What is more preferred amd or intel motherboard and cpu? I have a intel on my list but my friend is insisting i go with the ryzen

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 10:09 PM

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@lofty sequoia didnt you already own the CPU?

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Yes, but im getting a new one since I currently have a I7-4790 in my current rig

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rather just upgrade everything since its a new pc build

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 10:09 PM

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ah, there was a misunderstanding then

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 10:10 PM

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No worries

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 10:10 PM

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lets just clarify things a bit then :)

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good :)

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reason for all of these question is that it would be silly to do a lot of work on the gpu, if the rest of the system doesnt work

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 10:11 PM

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understood

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 10:11 PM

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and that was meant for the other channel :)

buoyant flame Apr 20, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Lol

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Doing a million things again I see :P

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 10:12 PM

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but the topic is close enough :)

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@lofty sequoia lets take it here in public, other people can benefit from it too then :)

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 10:13 PM

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sounds good!

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 10:14 PM

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So, currently: you have the ssd ?

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the 2tb wd that is?

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 10:14 PM

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correct, but I'll be buying a second one to seperate the OS from the gaming files

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 10:14 PM

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noted

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any other part on that list that you currently own?

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Negative that will be the only parts I will be adding to my new build

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 10:15 PM

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okay

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so, basically what you are asking is this: What build can i get for X budget? and should it be amd or intel?

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 10:17 PM

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more so for the second question, my buddy was telling me to go with the AMD however I've had both and have liked the intel more, but if one is better for gaming then I'm willing to maximize it. I wasnt sure how much I should really be spending on a motherboard since he told me $240 was a bit high even with the current deal for that and the CPU on newegg

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 10:17 PM

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lets flip the question a bit

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Ok

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 10:18 PM

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you seem to be willing to pay 1600 for your new system, based on the PCPP list

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is that a fair assesment?

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Correct Im willing to pay even as much as 2200$ but if I dont need to spend as much then I see no reason to

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narrowing it down, which is the better motherboard ASUS TUF Z390-pro gaming motherboard vs the ASUS ROG Strix Z390-E Gaming LGA 1151 (300 Series) if that helps. Lets say I stuck with the Intel

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 10:28 PM

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@lofty sequoia
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hNXHsk

System Builder

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that does everything your previous list does

fast lantern Apr 20, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Does anyone know if there will be any performance differences between the asrock b450m pro4 and the asrock b450m pro4-f?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 10:29 PM

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performance wise, no @fast lantern

fast lantern Apr 20, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Even with overclocks?

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Just looking to save the few bucks lol

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 10:29 PM

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the board is the board

fast lantern Apr 20, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Okay, thanks

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 10:30 PM

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@lofty sequoia and that list includes the extra SSD for the OS seperation

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fqYrn7 <- that included 2 drives, just for the heck of it

System Builder

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and a 12 core cpu

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 10:32 PM

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@foggy hazel thank you, now for the original list you helped me with (Intel) the two motherboards I listed which would be more preferred? I personally dont see too many differences between the motherboards except the pricetag diff

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 10:35 PM

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main difference is optane support @lofty sequoia

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Should I get that or no?

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 10:37 PM

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@foggy hazel

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 10:37 PM

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optane is just about useless @lofty sequoia

unkempt ibex Apr 20, 2020, 10:37 PM

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U sure that’s the best cooling for my cpu

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 10:38 PM

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@unkempt ibex remember what i said about the article link?

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but, please do tell me. What have you found that makes you ask that?

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 10:39 PM

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sorry last question, so between the strix and the TUF z390 series which would you go for?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 10:40 PM

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whichever one you want really

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and nothing to be sorry about.

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there are no stupid questions, only silly answers

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 10:42 PM

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ok almost forgot! for front usb ports what would you recommend ?

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 10:43 PM

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whatever you need/want

lofty sequoia Apr 20, 2020, 10:44 PM

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❤️

foggy hazel Apr 20, 2020, 10:45 PM

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however, keep in mind, your mate has a very valid point about the AMD platform

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as things stand, right now, the intel platform is "just" more expensive for no real tangible benefit

stoic island Apr 20, 2020, 11:19 PM

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This board might become a pretty good high end board
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2KbpmMg44M

YouTube

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MSI's X570 Tomahawk, on paper, fixes many of MSI's VRM thermal issues by building one of the most powerful VRMs on a board at its price. Buildzoid reviews the VRM design here.
Sponsor: Corsair's Hydro X Water Line on Amazon (https://geni.us/MZpxBRN)

In this video, we're looki...

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wifi too

slim nacelle Apr 21, 2020, 12:52 AM

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Ryzen 5 2600X,Corsair AIO cpu cooler,16Gig Flare X, Vega 56,Gigabyte X470 Ultra Gaming, Corsair CZ 750M psu,DIYPC Vanguard-RGB Black case .

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Looking to do mild upgrade. Going to get new GPU power cables for sure. And thinking Ram. Not sure though if I should go for replacing my 16 CL 3200 ram with 18 CL 3600 or just doubling my existing ram?

latent storm Apr 21, 2020, 12:57 AM

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why would you get cl18 3600?

slim nacelle Apr 21, 2020, 12:58 AM

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Either way its about the same price to buy another 16 gigs of the 3200 16 CL Flare X or replace the Flare X with 16 gigs of 3600 18 CL Geil. Just not sure what one would benefit me more.

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Im not well versed of ram. Wasn't sure if the faster ram would benefit my system more than the extra ram.

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I have about 150 dollars to spend. So I figure 4) to 50 dollars on some cables and the rest on ram.

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 1:44 AM

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hey where's the best place to receive some feedback on a build

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completely new to pc building

sudden turret Apr 21, 2020, 1:44 AM

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right here.

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 1:44 AM

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sweet!

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 1:45 AM

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@kind shuttle send me the link, and i will post it for you

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on behalf of @kind shuttle https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TPn79G

System Builder

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 1:47 AM

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huh

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 1:47 AM

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keep in mind I have virtually no idea what Im doing except for the minimal research/advice I got from friends

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 1:47 AM

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windows ebay key :p

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 1:47 AM

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@kind shuttle know/understand the following: There are no stupid questions, only silly answers.

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 1:48 AM

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I think I'm secure enough to survive discord but I appreciate the advice hehe

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 1:48 AM

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some people are afraid to ask.

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hence the comment

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max budget with monitor is 1100?

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and you are located in the US?

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 1:49 AM

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yep. US and my budget is around 1000 but going a over a little is prob fine

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Id rather set myself up to have something i can upgrade

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 1:49 AM

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fair

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are you buying "now" or what is the plan?

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 1:49 AM

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and Im told now is a good time to buy parts

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asap

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 1:50 AM

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someone told you a load of bull then

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now is a horrible time

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 1:50 AM

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well

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 1:50 AM

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stock is horrible

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and prices are silly

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that doesnt mean we cannot look at a build for you, but please keep in that in mind :)

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 1:51 AM

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if u could guesstimate how much in percent prices have gone up

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what would u say

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 1:51 AM

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20-50%

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 1:51 AM

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is that some parts or all

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 1:51 AM

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and that is me being "nice" about it

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 1:51 AM

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everything is weird

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 1:51 AM

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like 6 months ago would I have been spending that much less

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20-505

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%*

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Naed, thoughts about this plus like a ebay key?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YzCLHB

System Builder

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 1:52 AM

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think about this, a good psu 3 months ago would have been 70-ish usd, now it is 85+

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 1:52 AM

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ok lets pretend Im going to buy in the next week

hybrid mason Apr 21, 2020, 1:52 AM

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yea me too

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 1:53 AM

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kill the hdd and go full ssd @stoic island ?

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and we cant do better on the monitor price wise?

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 1:53 AM

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sata?

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 1:53 AM

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as "only" go 144hz on the monitor?

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 1:53 AM

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idk monitor stock has been horrible recently

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 1:54 AM

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i am thinking P1 for the m.2

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1tb

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really close with what you are listing

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 1:55 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GpNqQq

System Builder

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 1:55 AM

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@kind shuttle Your audio gear? is it usb or minijack based?

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 1:55 AM

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like my headset?

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 1:55 AM

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aye

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 1:56 AM

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the difference would be two audio jack cords vs 1 audio/1 usb/

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?

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iyk what im saying

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 1:56 AM

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do you have any gear right now?

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if you do. what plugs does it have

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that is the question :)

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 1:56 AM

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i have a headset Ive used on my pc /xbox

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it has 1 USB connector and 1 audio jack conenctor

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 1:57 AM

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usb based then

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okay

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@stoic island do you remember which low price board it is that is born with 3rd gen support?

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 1:58 AM

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brb

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the a320 board?

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 1:58 AM

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@kind shuttle give us a couple of minutes :)

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nah, its a b450

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 1:58 AM

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this?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6d9tt6/msi-b450m-pro-m2-max-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450m-pro-m2-max

MSI B450M PRO-M2 MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 1:58 AM

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take ur time my dudes

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 1:59 AM

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theres the msi A320m a pro max for 60$

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 1:59 AM

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does it matter which games i want to run

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 1:59 AM

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i know i will remember it when i see the bios names, because they are "weird"

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 1:59 AM

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or is it kind of 1 size fits all

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 2:00 AM

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MSI B450M PRO-M2 MAX <- that was the one i was thinking about

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because that is a potential 20-ish that could be pumped into something else @stoic island

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because perhaps stretching for something like a 2060 is really tempting

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 2:04 AM

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not many places to shave off cost

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 2:04 AM

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re: monitor: and yes, stock is indeed silly, nothing "interesting" is available

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 2:04 AM

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unless we go 1600af

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 2:04 AM

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yeah .. dont want to

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 2:04 AM

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en ingles por favor

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jk keep doin ur thing

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 2:05 AM

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part names and suggestions being exchanged @kind shuttle :)

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2Tq3vW my slight change on the GPU

System Builder

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together with the MAX board brings us to 1051

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 2:06 AM

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nice

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 2:06 AM

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its @stoic island you should be thanking, its his work :)

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 2:07 AM

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thanks @stoic island

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 2:07 AM

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and yes, i know it is above your original 1000, but imo, it is worth pushing for

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 2:07 AM

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thats prob fine

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 2:08 AM

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and something to remember, if you show it to someone else and they complain about the PSU size, please send them this way, i could use the entertainment :)

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 2:08 AM

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thanks for the help!

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 2:09 AM

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You're welcome, but Naed definally takes credit.

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 2:09 AM

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does the case matter?

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 2:09 AM

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you are very welcome

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as in, you dont want a tightly sealed box

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but aside from that, not really

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 2:10 AM

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ok so the one I picked is fine?

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 2:11 AM

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aye

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 2:12 AM

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do I need both ssd and hard drive

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or nah

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 2:12 AM

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you both need and want the ssd

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that was part of what Mr1111 and me talked about

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going with just a ssd, but with more storage vs the first model suggested

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gives you slightly less overall storage

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but, a much better experience using the system

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 2:14 AM

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great

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 2:16 AM

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any other questions @kind shuttle ?

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 2:19 AM

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monitor advice

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 2:20 AM

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ask away :)

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 2:20 AM

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ik prices are in flux

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will i notice 75 ghz vs 144

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 2:20 AM

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144 IS nice

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and the monitor you have on your list is a nice enough one

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 2:21 AM

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ok

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Most people easily notice a difference between 75hz and 144.

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 2:21 AM

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ok ill go 144 then

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how much will covid impact delivery?

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probably a lot right

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 2:23 AM

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try your luck

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we cannot predict the future, sorry.

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 2:24 AM

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damn

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i was hopeful

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I lied...1 more question out of curiosity

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Why that graphics card as opposed to another brand/model

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 2:32 AM

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because it is the cheapest 2060 series card on the market

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 2:34 AM

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(I think they mean as opposed to AMD).

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 2:35 AM

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What’s the advantage compared to other graphics cards

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Not cuz I wanna replace it I just don’t know what makes a card good or not

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 2:35 AM

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price/performance is good vs what else is on the market

modern shadow Apr 21, 2020, 2:44 AM

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yes

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 2:50 AM

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Do I need anything else to built it

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Or would I b able to as soon as all those parts came

modern shadow Apr 21, 2020, 2:53 AM

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probably the second one

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 2:55 AM

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@kind shuttle time and patience, together with a screwdriver

shy basin Apr 21, 2020, 3:05 AM

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I need a build for $2000

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 3:15 AM

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eh, this works.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nTvWwh

System Builder

wary geode Apr 21, 2020, 4:02 AM

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I’ll try and make one with rgb

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Lol

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/DuckHawk25/saved/#view=cqRRTW

Saved Part Lists

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 4:06 AM

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Ram choice

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Why 3200mhz

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That SSD isn't great iirc, SATA speeds too iirc.

modern shadow Apr 21, 2020, 4:07 AM

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why not trident Zs

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 4:07 AM

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Zotac is just okay

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Case is out of stock

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PSU wise revolution D.F is better than RMx

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The fans are... Well they're expensive Corsair rgb fans, whatever.

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Ima just retrofit my build

grim silo Apr 21, 2020, 4:10 AM

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So I got some psu cables from cablemod, but there is a "missing" pin in the motherboard side connector of the 24 pin that dosent match the missing one on the cable that came with the PSU

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Should I be worried?

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 4:14 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wqPVgJ

System Builder

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What do you mean?

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@grim silo missing in what way?

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As in there's an extra 4 pin next to the normal 24pin?

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On the motherboard?

grim silo Apr 21, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Can I pay pictures here? Figure it's easier to show than explain

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Sure

sudden jetty Apr 21, 2020, 4:16 AM

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NO

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NO

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What’s a good build for gaming and streaming with the 1600af and 2060ko for around 700-800 USD

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 4:17 AM

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What

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What's with the "NO NO"

sudden jetty Apr 21, 2020, 4:17 AM

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my fortnite clan

grim silo Apr 21, 2020, 4:17 AM

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This is both ends of the cablemod 24 pin

📎 JPEG_20200421_001702.jpg

sudden jetty Apr 21, 2020, 4:17 AM

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but what is for this

grim silo Apr 21, 2020, 4:18 AM

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So the second from the top left on the motherboard side (bottom) and the two on the right connector for the psu side

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Weird, have you tried plugging it in instead of the usual one?

sudden jetty Apr 21, 2020, 4:18 AM

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What’s a good build for gaming and streaming with the 1600af and 2060ko for around 700-800 USD

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Maybe those pins are extra ground pins, idrk.

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Have some patience damn it

still roostBOT Apr 21, 2020, 4:19 AM

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kiythefast#8321 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

wide sparrow Apr 21, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Never going back to vinalla MC

📎 0421200017_HDR.jpg

sudden jetty Apr 21, 2020, 4:19 AM

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What’s a good build for gaming and streaming with the 1600af and 2060ko for around 700-800 USD

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 4:19 AM

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@sudden jetty patience is something you really should learn to use

grim silo Apr 21, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Reason why I was concerned is it dosent match this which came with the psu

📎 JPEG_20200421_001942.jpg

sudden jetty Apr 21, 2020, 4:20 AM

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my firend is rushing me

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 4:20 AM

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@sudden jetty not our problem.

sudden jetty Apr 21, 2020, 4:20 AM

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What’s a good build for gaming and streaming with the 1600af and 2060ko for around 700-800 USD

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idc

grim silo Apr 21, 2020, 4:20 AM

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It's a GM 650 sfx if that helps

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 4:20 AM

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Gonna go off this

📎 Screenshot_20200420-232009.png

sudden jetty Apr 21, 2020, 4:20 AM

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sorry

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my brother

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 4:20 AM

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@grim silo check your manual for the PSU

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 4:21 AM

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Hmm weird

sudden jetty Apr 21, 2020, 4:21 AM

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pls just help my friend and answer

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What’s a good build for gaming and streaming with the 1600af and 2060ko for around 700-800 USD

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 4:22 AM

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we are doing something else right now

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so, have some patience.

sudden jetty Apr 21, 2020, 4:22 AM

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whaa

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okay master

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techie

lime forge Apr 21, 2020, 4:22 AM

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youre not gonna get help if youre rude 🙂

sudden jetty Apr 21, 2020, 4:22 AM

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sorry

lime forge Apr 21, 2020, 4:22 AM

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please post the question just once, someone will respond if they have the time.

grim silo Apr 21, 2020, 4:22 AM

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The manual dosent seen to have much in the way of specifics on cables

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Other than which ones are included

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 4:23 AM

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give me a sec @grim silo

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Isn't that 28 pins total..?

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Looks like 20 pins + 8 pins ..

grim silo Apr 21, 2020, 4:26 AM

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On the psu side yeah but the slot on the psu also has 28 pins

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📎 JPEG_20200421_002632.jpg

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 4:26 AM

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the end of the cable that does into the psu is 18+10

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which is normal

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 4:27 AM

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Huh

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Idrk these things eh

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To me, it looks like the 4th pins from the right are just ground pins?

📎 Screenshot_20200420-232729.png

sly python Apr 21, 2020, 4:29 AM

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@foggy hazel question im also getting a wudfrd.dll error, linked to USB, narrowed down the device but removed it then the error moves to another usb port device, no matter what devies are in the error occurs. The driver \Driver\WudfRd failed to load for the device this also happens in event log when the computer freezes. ive uninstalled all UBS drivers using a remote program and rebooted and let them reinstall issue still happens, a couple posts say goto run + services - services.msc and modify Windows Driver Foundation.. how ever in my services.msc i have no such service

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could my mobo be dying as well /facepalm

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 4:31 AM

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Now that's a question that's way out of my league and hard for me to research on Google with mobile :p

sly python Apr 21, 2020, 4:31 AM

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haha google has been no help

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they list the same 5 steps

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Hey, worth a try to at least figure out which ballpark the issue is.

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 4:32 AM

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@sly python i will have a look when i am done with @grim silo

sly python Apr 21, 2020, 4:32 AM

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ive done all but the services.msc one due to not having that service lol

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Naed, I believe it should be safe to try that cable and see if it works? Or do you think we should just be more cautious.

sudden jetty Apr 21, 2020, 4:33 AM

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did yall forget about me

sly python Apr 21, 2020, 4:34 AM

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kiy im sure they they will get to you soon 🙂

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 4:34 AM

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One at a time, still working with Outlaw15.

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 4:34 AM

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@stoic island trying to verify that it isnt a mixup with the cables

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 4:34 AM

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Alright, seems fair.

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COM does mean ground, correct?

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 4:35 AM

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because i sure as heck dont want to say "okay" to something that causes a smoke cloud

sudden jetty Apr 21, 2020, 4:35 AM

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im actually a good kid yk

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 4:35 AM

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That is true

sudden jetty Apr 21, 2020, 4:35 AM

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SO ANSWER

weak arrow Apr 21, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Who is this kid being so annoying

sudden jetty Apr 21, 2020, 4:38 AM

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im not annoying

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Patience.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4hTJGc

System Builder

sudden jetty Apr 21, 2020, 4:39 AM

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tysm

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nvm

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you mean boi

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why you through my build

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 4:42 AM

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@grim silo still around?

grim silo Apr 21, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Yep, what ya got?

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 4:44 AM

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based on what i am seeing, something is off

grim silo Apr 21, 2020, 4:45 AM

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With the extensions or the ones that came with the PSU?

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 4:45 AM

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extensions

grim silo Apr 21, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Hmm

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 4:45 AM

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the 24 pin section is what i have been focusing on

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so, i would strongly suggest that you have a chat with cablemod customer service, just to check. But i am fairly limited in that i cannot 100% verify the schematic i am looking at here @grim silo

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but, as i said earlier, better safe than sorry

cedar spindle Apr 21, 2020, 4:47 AM

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Anyone have Corsair ll120s?

grim silo Apr 21, 2020, 4:47 AM

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Sounds good. I'll see if I can reach out to them. I bought the kit from microcenter so I guess I can try stopping by there if they know anything

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Thanks!

cedar spindle Apr 21, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Are the screws supposed to be this hard to screw? Lmao

sly python Apr 21, 2020, 4:48 AM

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@grim silo if you havea fry's local they sell extension cables you could take yours in and just compare it to one in the store

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 4:48 AM

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@grim silo you are very welcome, and do make certain you talk with cablemod about it, just to make certain that the person you are talking with, actually 100% knows what they are talking about

grim silo Apr 21, 2020, 4:49 AM

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@sly python Unfortunately I don't think there are any Fry's in the DC area

sly python Apr 21, 2020, 4:49 AM

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/shurg

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 4:50 AM

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okay @sly python

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your turn

sly python Apr 21, 2020, 4:50 AM

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@foggy hazel ive learned reseting a stable system is bad and not to do it again LOL!

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 4:52 AM

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now you know why most technicians are VERY loathe to "just flash the bios!"

sly python Apr 21, 2020, 4:52 AM

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lol

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i flashed them but that was one of the last attempts haha

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i just find it of that one of the "solutions" that's i posted above is not an option on my side.

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 4:54 AM

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because the process is "old"

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so you might have hit some advice for XP

sly python Apr 21, 2020, 4:55 AM

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and im getting curious if usb ports causing errors could also be a sign of a mobo dying? (ive also unplugged the front ports and am plugged directly into the back of the mobo)

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 4:55 AM

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it could be

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but its darn hard to tell remotely :/

sly python Apr 21, 2020, 4:56 AM

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ha just got a pop up about a usb device not working properly again how ever its all working just fine.

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Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43)

A request for the USB device descriptor failed.

warm nova Apr 21, 2020, 4:56 AM

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I get those popups when my phone is connected sometimes

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 4:57 AM

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@sly python check all your cables

sly python Apr 21, 2020, 4:57 AM

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all i currently have plugged in are mouse and key ( from my 2nd pc)

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they are all good no kinks no signs of issues

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 4:57 AM

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as in, check IF you can trigger that pop-up by wiggling cables

sly python Apr 21, 2020, 4:57 AM

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yea

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 4:57 AM

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you might not be able to "see" the problem on the cable

warm nova Apr 21, 2020, 4:57 AM

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what keyboard is it

sly python Apr 21, 2020, 4:58 AM

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was a razer chroma black widow 2 now its a 2 weeks old razer huntsman

warm nova Apr 21, 2020, 4:58 AM

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some mechanical keyboards have a switch to select the polling rate of the keyboard. check that

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 4:58 AM

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@warm nova you thinking, over polling?

warm nova Apr 21, 2020, 4:58 AM

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I personally have never had an issue with my corsair, but some people have

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It will make the usb port crash if it polls too much

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 4:59 AM

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so yes, you were :)

warm nova Apr 21, 2020, 4:59 AM

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I have had that problem with my g502 when its set to 1000

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massive lag spikes and disconnects

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which is another thing, check the mouse polling rate. A lot of them will default to 1000 which is way too high

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 5:00 AM

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Really? I've always had my mouse at 1000.

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 5:00 AM

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@sly python did you see the comment the other day about scaling the complete system back to the minimum amount of components and trying from that state?

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@stoic island take note of the "some people have" part

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that is the important bit

sly python Apr 21, 2020, 5:01 AM

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yea i tried that some what lol reduced it to one monitor 1 stick of ram and just a mouse and key inside the case i cant reapply unplug much as its a liquid cooled system

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 5:02 AM

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you might, personally, go blissfully unaware through a minefield :)

sly python Apr 21, 2020, 5:02 AM

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i had the gpu unplugged as well just supported by a cardboard box

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 5:02 AM

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I mean, I didn't see a "some people" in the 2 messages I quickly read, that's why the assumption was made :p

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 5:02 AM

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:)

warm nova Apr 21, 2020, 5:03 AM

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the some people was from me

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polling rate issues are really hard to nail down unless you know specifically what you are looking for

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 5:04 AM

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and to add to that: and you specifically are being VERY methodical about testing it

warm nova Apr 21, 2020, 5:04 AM

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for the device thats not working can you get a device id from device manager

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that is the device with the code 43

sly python Apr 21, 2020, 5:06 AM

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yea i just moved the device to another port lol

wide sparrow Apr 21, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Nvidia Nvidia Nvidia

grim silo Apr 21, 2020, 5:12 AM

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@foggy hazel found a post on Reddit from a few years back. Seems EVGA has a different pinout for their sleeved cables and stock cables and the cablemod cables are based on the sleeved ones
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/412yvv/troubleshooting_cablemod_eseries_24_pinout_wrong/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

r/buildapc - [Troubleshooting] Cablemod E-Series 24 pinout wrong?

8 votes and 13 comments so far on Reddit

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Gonna stay safe and wait to hear back from cablemod customer support but it's looking promising

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 5:15 AM

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nice find @grim silo and exactly as Japetto is talking about in the reddit thread. "If Cablemod offer their guarantee ... "

sly python Apr 21, 2020, 5:23 AM

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@foggy hazel we can get back to my issue later its getting late and ill just deal with the crashing for now lol, at least till the PSU arrives and hey maybe the PSU will solve all my issues. 🙂 you've been a great help and i've enjoyed our conversations 🙂

cold sorrel Apr 21, 2020, 5:56 AM

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I still am highly tempted to just go ahead and buy the keyboard, then wait out the rest of the shortage. To test if it works I can always connect it to my laptop.
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16823201111?Item=N82E16823201111

dense bane Apr 21, 2020, 6:25 AM

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hey guys i have a big noob question.. if im going to upgrade my mobo/cpu/gpu should i just go ahead and fresh install windows 10?

compact hill Apr 21, 2020, 6:43 AM

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No point

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Are you going from intel to amd?

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Or vice versa

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 7:13 AM

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@sly python lets see how things work out with the psu :) and likewise :)

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@viral ore got a stand for that monitor mate!

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or place it on some books or something

celest crest Apr 21, 2020, 7:19 AM

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@compact hill I didnt ask the question but I am switching to amd from intel, what do I do?

dense bane Apr 21, 2020, 7:19 AM

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no i'm not @compact hill i'm sticking with just intel but im afraid previous drivers from my gpu could confuse the new gpu i guess?

celest crest Apr 21, 2020, 7:20 AM

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Aye I am switching to amd from intel and I wanna know how to delete intel drivers I don't need afterward

viral ore Apr 21, 2020, 7:21 AM

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your reinstalling windows, correct?

celest crest Apr 21, 2020, 7:21 AM

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I am yeah

viral ore Apr 21, 2020, 7:21 AM

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then dont worry about it

celest crest Apr 21, 2020, 7:21 AM

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Should be

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What drivers do I need to get after i install windows for amd? does windows automatically install the ones I need for amd? Isnt their oc application I should get?

viral ore Apr 21, 2020, 7:22 AM

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none

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there are no drivers

celest crest Apr 21, 2020, 7:23 AM

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what r the amd programs I should install then

viral ore Apr 21, 2020, 7:23 AM

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well, if you have an AMD GPU, you can get the drivers for that

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that will come with an assortment of programs

celest crest Apr 21, 2020, 7:24 AM

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hmm

viral ore Apr 21, 2020, 7:24 AM

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your cpu doesnt need anything. the only programs you would get would be to overclock it

dense bane Apr 21, 2020, 7:26 AM

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what about for me. i wont re-install windows. i'll just swap out gpu and cpu and mobo.

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is it necessary to re-install in this case?

viral ore Apr 21, 2020, 7:26 AM

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it might work, it depends

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 7:26 AM

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necessary? no. Recommended? yes

viral ore Apr 21, 2020, 7:27 AM

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windows can usually detect hardware changes, but as naed said, a reinstall is preffered

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 7:27 AM

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reason for it being recommended? People are not smart.

dense bane Apr 21, 2020, 7:27 AM

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what do the smart people do then

celest crest Apr 21, 2020, 7:28 AM

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Do you suppose I should still reinstall if I am only swapping my cpu and mobo

viral ore Apr 21, 2020, 7:28 AM

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i would say try and boot windows anyway after the part swap

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 7:29 AM

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@dense bane know what part of the system to actually blame, IF something doesnt work.

viral ore Apr 21, 2020, 7:29 AM

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no reason not to, if it works, it works, otherwise, you can just reinstall

celest crest Apr 21, 2020, 7:30 AM

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I will try boot first then try out that recovery/reinstall option in windows 10 settings Intender told me about

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 7:30 AM

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what you have to keep in mind Vex is this: Have a bootable usb media ready BEFORE you do the swap

dense bane Apr 21, 2020, 7:30 AM

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i was thinking this ^

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 7:30 AM

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in that case, IF things dont work out, you are not running around in a panic

dense bane Apr 21, 2020, 7:30 AM

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yeah ill do that

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thx yall

viral ore Apr 21, 2020, 7:30 AM

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tru, also pull your important data off

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like on a flash drive

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 7:31 AM

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you are welcome, and best of luck @dense bane

viral ore Apr 21, 2020, 7:31 AM

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or google drive

cold sorrel Apr 21, 2020, 7:31 AM

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Yeah, back up anything you want to hang onto.

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I have an external hard drive I will be backing up to when I build my new system. Hopefully it's still got enough space left for everything

celest crest Apr 21, 2020, 7:33 AM

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For sure, I have windows 10 on a personal ssd

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like designated to windows 10 only

cold sorrel Apr 21, 2020, 7:35 AM

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Maybe later today I'll check it and make sure it's still good. I have things on there that I didn't want to keep on my laptop, but didn't want to get rid of. (Most some modded setups for games I'm not currently playing.)

little osprey Apr 21, 2020, 12:13 PM

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Any good cube case's where I can lay my motherboard flat down that are for sale?

eager chasm Apr 21, 2020, 12:28 PM

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There are a few Silverstone itx cases like that

woeful agate Apr 21, 2020, 3:52 PM

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guys

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is it worth switching from a 3600 to a 3700x?

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 3:53 PM

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No

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There is no need for that unless for some reason 2 more cores is paramount to your success

woeful agate Apr 21, 2020, 3:54 PM

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how bout for gaming @stoic island ?

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 3:54 PM

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No reason at all

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0

woeful agate Apr 21, 2020, 3:54 PM

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future proofing?

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 3:54 PM

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technically, the exact same thing he said earlier

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same again

woeful agate Apr 21, 2020, 3:54 PM

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okeh

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thanks!

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Current games barely take what, 4 cores if optimised?

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 3:54 PM

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its ALL about what you actually need, with the things you do

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 3:55 PM

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6 cores still aren't fully utilized

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And single core perf is what you're looking for in games

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and same generation same iPC :p

woeful agate Apr 21, 2020, 3:57 PM

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kk

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 5:34 PM

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@stoic island
I’m going to go with the 3950x cpu what motherboard do you recommend?
Still the MSI MEG X570 Unify?
Comparing the Gaming Edge, Gaming Pro Carbon, Unify

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 5:34 PM

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One sec

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The reason I recommended unify because it's an amazing board, with great VRMs and wifi

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Gotcha. The VRMs matter during overclocking?
Or could ya explain that for me pls?

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Here, look at this

📎 unknown.png

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Had to zoom out because the difference is quite a bit

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Tier A is maxed out 3950s on ambient, aka air cooling.

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Therefore Tier S- is basically maxed out 3950x on AIO and water

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VRMs matter during overclocking

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it's like the power supply for the cpu

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 5:38 PM

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What do you mean by maxed out?

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 5:39 PM

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The max you can OC it

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Ah so with the better motherboard I can OC the cpu more without it crashing?

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Or how does it affect it?

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Basically

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Better VRMs allow you to OC more

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Oh okay so the way they have everything installed while OC the cpu it’ll get hotter on the lower end motherboards

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 5:50 PM

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uhh

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it's not the heat

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it's the power delivery

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of the VRMs

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Ah okay. Ill have to do some research on VRMs to understand them more!
Thank you for giving me a understanding!
Such a major help

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Gonna go with the unify

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My build:

Corsair Crystal 280x Black
MSI MEG X570 Unify
Ryzen 3950x
GSkill NEO 32GB (2x16) 3600
Samsung SSD 860 EVO
EVGA 750w

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Pcpartpicker always useful :D

eager chasm Apr 21, 2020, 5:57 PM

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@stoic island technically a very small selection of games will use all 16 threads equally, but it's still the case that most games use 4 core or less effectively

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 5:58 PM

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After looking it seems like the
Samsung SSD 860 EVO SSD
And
Samsung 860 EVO M2
Are pretty much the same price.. Is m2 better?

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Ryoku

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They never put full load on more than 4 cores

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that is what I'm referring to

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Wait crypto

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I thought we suggested 860qvo to you?

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Lol I didn’t know there was a difference

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 6:00 PM

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yea it's cheaper iirc

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Because iirc you just wanted a large fast pool of storage?

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 6:01 PM

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What the difference between EVO and QVO?

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 6:01 PM

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if you want even faster storage (not practically faster, just faster transferring files), we have other options

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Qvo is just a cheaper sata drive

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It uses QLC, which is a bit slower than tlc.

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 6:01 PM

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I’m just trying to get something good that’ll work good

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Qvo works good.

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Seems like EVO is faster

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Evo is just expensive

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You can get that performance from other avenues.

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Can you link your pcpartpicker?

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I'm forgetting the specifics of your build and I don't want to pepper you with random questions lol :p

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Well, max rated speed is actually the same lol

📎 unknown.png

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Anyways

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@polar goblet you there?
respond whenever you're avaliable.

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no hurry

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Just built it on pcpicker

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B2xfCL

System Builder

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 6:11 PM

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you got a CPU cooler?

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 6:12 PM

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I don’t 💀
Gonna need one by going with the 3950x instead of the 3900x huh?

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Yea

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 6:14 PM

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Will this all fit in the
Corsair crystal 280x ?
I didn’t see it on pcpartpicker

merry palm Apr 21, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Hi can some one make me a gaming and streaming build for 600-700 usd please🙏😁

modern shadow Apr 21, 2020, 6:18 PM

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K

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me or someone will do it

merry palm Apr 21, 2020, 6:18 PM

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K thanks

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 6:19 PM

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@polar goblet it's in there, but I dont think it fits in the 280x.

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Because the 280x is a micro ATX case

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and the MSI Unify is a full ATX board

modern shadow Apr 21, 2020, 6:21 PM

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@merry palm are you buying now, or after the whole corona thing?

merry palm Apr 21, 2020, 6:22 PM

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I’m working for the money and buying the parts as I get enough

modern shadow Apr 21, 2020, 6:22 PM

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cuz some parts are out of stock

#

rn

merry palm Apr 21, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Oh it’s ok I just want ur best thoughts

modern shadow Apr 21, 2020, 6:22 PM

#

k

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some parts you might have to wait after corona though

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Welp there goes another $100 to upgrade to the 680x instead of the 280x to fit the motherboard 😢

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 6:24 PM

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I would appreciate some additional opinions on this build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2Tq3vW

System Builder

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sidenote: mr1111 and naed already helped but the more the merrier

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 6:26 PM

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@polar goblet thats a lot of money for a case like that

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@kind shuttle considering your budget, there isnt anything else to do

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 6:27 PM

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completely respect that but consider the perspective of a young man who knows nothing about computers and is about to blow a grand on one

coarse moth Apr 21, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Opinions on a build for my mom, just wants something dead simple: https://secure.newegg.com/wishlist/sd/qqNgFilxOdmFDsJA1rEurg==

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 6:28 PM

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nothing personal

modern shadow Apr 21, 2020, 6:28 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7TjGNq here you go @merry palm

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

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@kind shuttle i dont take it personally, i am way too old for that :)

modern shadow Apr 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

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ask for other's opinion though

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

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um

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hypercore

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most of that is out of stock lol

modern shadow Apr 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

#

ik

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he said he's buying them as he goes

merry palm Apr 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Ok

modern shadow Apr 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

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oops forgot memory

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here

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vJNpMc

System Builder

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 6:30 PM

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@modern shadow he aint going anywhere without memory or drives

coarse moth Apr 21, 2020, 6:30 PM

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@kind shuttle I think you could get a better price on that display

modern shadow Apr 21, 2020, 6:30 PM

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forgot

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 6:30 PM

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@foggy hazel its good to see there are some people left on the internet who have maturity above a 6 year old child

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 6:30 PM

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diapers dont fit my slim behind @kind shuttle :)

merry palm Apr 21, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Thank u

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 6:31 PM

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@coarse moth availability

kind shuttle Apr 21, 2020, 6:31 PM

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let me return the favor and reccommend some huggies adult size

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 6:31 PM

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no thank you, i am trying to quit, i have heard they are bad for your health in the long run, and they get addictive too

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:P

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:)

modern shadow Apr 21, 2020, 6:36 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sNW9vW @merry palm All good, I guess...

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ask others though

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updated

merry palm Apr 21, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Should I go for the 2060 ko

modern shadow Apr 21, 2020, 6:37 PM

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how much is it? i forgot

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You like those ray tracing?

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 6:37 PM

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300$.

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 6:38 PM

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@stoic island
Lmao bro I’m rekt. I didn’t even think about a monitor while building.. I’m gonna have to switch it to the 3900x cpu.
Everything else can stay the same ya?
Just gonna swap out the 3950x and get a 3900x

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Usually if you're looking in the 300$ range, it's the best option you got

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Sure

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What kind of monitor do you want?

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1440p or 1080p?

merry palm Apr 21, 2020, 6:38 PM

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I’m 14 I play on Xbox kbm but the input delay is horrible and I want to switch to pc and I just want to build it so I have absolutely no clue about any of this

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Idk yet; haven’t even dived into monitors yet. So no clue tbh

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 6:39 PM

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So, how large a monitor do you want?

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Also, what GPU did you have before? My memory is crap :p

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I would suggest this monitor as a pretty good 1440p monitor
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824475051

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It's VA, not IPS, but it's got good response time and refresh rate

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Ok thanks

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Here’s my new build

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9B9Kdm

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stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 6:43 PM

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o

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G3 isn't a great PSU.

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 6:44 PM

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thats some expensive parts with no real benefit imo

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 6:44 PM

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There is some of that.

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Also, what's your full budget?

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 6:45 PM

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$1500-$2000
But I also got to get Windows 10 and a monitor

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 6:45 PM

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i see 400-ish usd being used for no real benefit

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 6:45 PM

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I thought there was a bigger budget...

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At that point, the unify board would not make too much sense.

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 6:46 PM

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I can afford all that I got on there.
But why wouldn’t the unify be good for it anymore?

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 6:47 PM

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ask the question in a different way

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What does the Unify give you that is worth 300?

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that a 200-ish board doesnt

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Naed, that was my mistake, I assumed there was a large budget for a 3950x, so I went to one of the best boards I knew.

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 6:48 PM

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aye aye, no worries

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its a relevant question for any build and any part

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 6:49 PM

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I mean I can get that board for the extra $100.
If you were to put $100 elsewhere other than the motherboard where would you put it?
Or which motherboard would you recommend?

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 6:49 PM

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also, a question for you @polar goblet : what comes first, performance or looks?

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Looks I want that case. Because it looks really nice.

Performance I think everything I have performs really well no?

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So performance yes is #1
But looks do matter to me

young bough Apr 21, 2020, 6:51 PM

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Hey, I got a stupid question that I need some help with

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 6:51 PM

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lets compare two builds @polar goblet

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@young bough there are no stupid questions, only silly answers

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 6:51 PM

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Ok 👌🏼

young bough Apr 21, 2020, 6:53 PM

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I feel the need to upgrade my PC, my motherboard and CPU is old and I can't upgrade to anything better with that motherboard, an ASRock Z77 Pro4. I use an i7-2600k which base is 3.4 GHz, I'm thinking about moving to an AMD Ryzen 5 3600 that is 3.6 GHz, but now I have an accompanying newer motherboard and DDR4 Ram

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Is it worth it to really move up from what I have to that, because they're almost exactly the same in terms of processor power, save the more abundant cores for the Ryzen and a more compatible motherboard and better RAM

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 6:55 PM

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So, what is the budget?

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(for this upgrade)

young bough Apr 21, 2020, 6:56 PM

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Budget is kind of in the air for rn because this is a future investment in the coming months. I'm looking at right now around 400

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Oh no links

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AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core, 12-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler with B450-F Gaming Motherboard (ATX), name of the processor and motherboard

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Well, to upgrade you'll need CPU, Motherboard, and Ram. I would suggest Ryzen 5 3600, Asus Tuf B450m pro gaming, and G.skill Ripjaw V 3600mhz cl16 2x8gb.

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But some other things to consider, was that PC a prebuilt?

young bough Apr 21, 2020, 7:00 PM

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It was a custom prebuilt yeah

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 7:00 PM

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Do you know what power supply, and what case?

young bough Apr 21, 2020, 7:00 PM

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I bought it online from a private seller

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Thermal Take 500 W and Thermaltake Versa H22

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 7:01 PM

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@polar goblet sorry for the delay, pcpp was being annoying

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@polar goblet can we agree that your previous linked build was 1500?

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 7:03 PM

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Seems fair enough

crude otter Apr 21, 2020, 7:03 PM

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So, was putting together some parts to start a build, mind if I post and get some opinions?

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 7:03 PM

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We don't mind, go ahead.

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 7:04 PM

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because this, is functionally (based on what you have talked about so far, better performance for lesss, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2LXfCL

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wary geode Apr 21, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Yeah it’ll be fun to do

crude otter Apr 21, 2020, 7:04 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20200421-123119_Chrome.jpg 📎 Screenshot_20200421-123128_Chrome.jpg 📎 Screenshot_20200421-123134_Chrome.jpg

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Can you put that in a pcpartpicker.com list?

crude otter Apr 21, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Never used that, I'll try it out

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 7:05 PM

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I already see some things I'd like to critique, but that site makes things much easier

young bough Apr 21, 2020, 7:05 PM

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Why would you recommend the TUF B450 over the ROG B450?

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 7:06 PM

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Better sound chip, and better VRMs iirc

wary geode Apr 21, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Yeah I agree with him

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 7:07 PM

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@crude otter here is your list

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DVkDTC

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wary geode Apr 21, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Does he need 32gb what are you going to do with the computer?

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I mean it’s good and all just seems too much and unessary if your just gonna game

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Correct me if I’m wrong but the 710 doesn’t give the greatest airflow even for that amount of money

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There are better options I would like to say

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If I’m wrong please correct me

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 7:09 PM

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@young bough the B450M <- the m part is important, because that brings the board down a good 20+ usd

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 7:09 PM

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That too.

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 7:09 PM

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@wary geode its his list, we have not remotely started digging into it yet :)

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there are a bunch of things "wrong/weird" with it :)

wary geode Apr 21, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Ohhh ok lol missed that part

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 7:10 PM

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there is no way i would recommend something like that @wary geode :)

wary geode Apr 21, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Ok np

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 7:11 PM

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edited the list, because i for some reason had forgotten the gpu

crude otter Apr 21, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Thanks naed, its gonna be high end gaming/vr, and the case was mostly cable management perks I suppose

young bough Apr 21, 2020, 7:12 PM

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The B450M supports 3rd gen AMD? it's just weird seeing the price drop from before I'm so paranoid aha

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Well, we can do some work the list to provide more performance and maybe even better looks for the same price jlrogers.

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Yes, it does support 3rd gen ryzen, according to Asus' website.

crude otter Apr 21, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Was thinking of paying the little extra to go to the nitro+ GPU, but didnt know if it was really worth it

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I also do a touch of 3d rendering, however not much

young bough Apr 21, 2020, 7:23 PM

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"MSI ProSeries AMD Ryzen 2ND and 3rd Gen AM4 M.2 USB 3 DDR4 D-Sub DVI HDMI Micro-ATX Motherboard (B450M PRO-VDH Max)"

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A lot cheaper motherboard I found

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Is that still good?

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Not a great board

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Worse audio, worse VRMs.

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That's a cheaper option for builds that need to save a buck.

young bough Apr 21, 2020, 7:33 PM

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ASUS TUF B450M-PRO GAMING AMD Ryzen 3 AM4 DDR4, HDMI, Dual M.2, USB 3.1 Gen 2 and Aura Sync RGB LED Lighting Micro-ATX Motherboard

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Thoughts?

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That's the one I believe you and Naed recommended to me

stoic island Apr 21, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Yes

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It's a good board.

karmic idol Apr 21, 2020, 7:40 PM

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can i not send pc part picker lists here

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 7:45 PM

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@foggy hazel
Hey the only difference in between the
GSkill neo 32gb 3600 and the
Ripjaws 32gb 3600
Is the RGB lighting?

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 7:45 PM

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basically yes

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and a fair amount of price

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Ok thanks.
Now with all these different rgbs.
I got the case fans with Corsair, motherboard using aura, ram using whatever lighting.
Will all these match up in 1 program and run the same lighting?

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 7:55 PM

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no idea

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but i doubt it

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i dont deal with RGB if i can avoid it

karmic idol Apr 21, 2020, 7:56 PM

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yo is there a way i can send my pcpp list for you guys to see

cursive wharf Apr 21, 2020, 7:57 PM

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@polar goblet check on companies site for that. Should have something somewhere about what RGB software works

icy plume Apr 21, 2020, 7:58 PM

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@karmic idol there should be a link for you to copy up near the top in a green bar

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i'm pretty sure you can just click on it and it'll copy the link for you automatically

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 7:59 PM

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@karmic idol just send the link to me, and i will post it for you

cursive wharf Apr 21, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Not level 3

karmic idol Apr 21, 2020, 7:59 PM

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yeah but when i send it mee6 messages me saying i cant send pc part picker links

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 8:00 PM

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on behalf of @karmic idol https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BdK79G

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karmic idol Apr 21, 2020, 8:00 PM

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i have about $1000 to upgrade and ive already bought the cpu and ram

humble jacinth Apr 21, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Can someone tell me the main difference between Radeon and NVidia cards? And why Radeon are a lot less?

fast dust Apr 21, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Nvidia tends to have better drivers

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Do y’all use 2 hard drives?
Or just one?
Getting a 1TB M2 drive.
Not really going to be storing to much of stuff on here, maybe just some music files and game downloads.
What would y’all keep on that 2nd drive?
Like keep windows files and games files on 1 drive? Or?

fast dust Apr 21, 2020, 8:06 PM

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I have a 500gb NVMe SSD and a 2TB HDD. SSD for boot drive and YT videos, as well as like editing software or something, and teh 2TB HDD is for games.

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Lots of people will use an SSD for a boot drive and an HDD for games

lyric thistle Apr 21, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Radeon is made by AMD

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And GeForce is made by Nvidia

fast dust Apr 21, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Yep Radeon made by AMD, Geforce is made by Nvidia. AMD cards usually use more power, am I correct?

polar goblet Apr 21, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Okay so maybe buy a HDD for storing game files such as fortnite.
Or storing temporary videos in editing?

fast dust Apr 21, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Yep

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An HDD gets a lot faster if you don't have your OS on it

modern shadow Apr 21, 2020, 8:13 PM

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but dont game loading times get better in a SSD?

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so should I go SSD + HDD?

fast dust Apr 21, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Of course. SSDs are faster. I'm just saying that when you have an HDD without an OS on it it'ss be a lot faster than normal. My 7.2k RPM HDD loads games really fast because it's a secondary drive

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2020, 8:15 PM

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if you dont need the raw storage, just stick with a ssd @modern shadow

modern shadow Apr 21, 2020, 8:15 PM

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k

fast dust Apr 21, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Yes. SSD+HDD is usually better value for money

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But a lot of people like to stick with just an SSD so they don't have to choose where to download stuff when they downlaod

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