#building-and-recc-chat | Newegg | Page 497

woeful agate Apr 14, 2020, 6:49 PM

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evolv shift air needs a gpu riser cable

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I have a desk and an anti static wrist strap

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sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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I kinda want to

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 6:50 PM

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ok

woeful agate Apr 14, 2020, 6:50 PM

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so do u think I should?

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 6:50 PM

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it all just preference

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sure

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clear off the desk, spend 3 hours assembling it

woeful agate Apr 14, 2020, 6:50 PM

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but would you recommend

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 6:51 PM

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recommend what

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the case

woeful agate Apr 14, 2020, 6:51 PM

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building in the evolv shift air

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it has really good airflow so

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 6:51 PM

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its a case

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if it couldnt be build in, they wouldnt be selling it

woeful agate Apr 14, 2020, 6:51 PM

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heh lol

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 6:52 PM

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yeah, the case side panels all come off

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it should be super easy to get parts in there

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just read the case manual

simple stag Apr 14, 2020, 6:52 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Krq6Pn

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woeful agate Apr 14, 2020, 6:57 PM

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okay thanks sassyfish I might

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:01 PM

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@simple stag https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8YbsPn
-mobo: Tomahawk sucks for the price. Worse sound chip, network chip, less M2 slots, lack of WiFi, etc compared to boards at same price. b450 TUF Pro mATX has a better sound chip and an extra M2 slot, better even when cheaper (tho to be fair, is currently out of stock).
-GPU: 5700XT > 2060 non S. Can get 2060S if streaming/recording
-case: too much money spent on case given budget
-PSU: Much better quality overall. Most noticeable for standard users would be lifespan. MWE has meh caps, close to or at min quality that could be recommended. Better caps helps a lot with the PSU lifespan

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Hei

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B450m tuf pro was out of stock last I checked

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Also that case... I'd still get something a bit more like a focus g

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I keep forgetting about the revolution d.f...

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:26 PM

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case quality is meh, but still really cheap tempered glass. would probs want another fan tho

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 7:39 PM

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but yea the case is out of stock @cursive wharf

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sullen spoke Apr 14, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Wait until it is in stock?

modern shadow Apr 14, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Should I get the nh-n9s with a extra fan for a pull-push setup or a liquid cooler?

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 7:51 PM

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why the n9s

modern shadow Apr 14, 2020, 7:53 PM

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Just...

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Idk

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What do you suggest

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@stoic island

teal bison Apr 14, 2020, 7:56 PM

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@modern shadow what is your budget?

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i cant find the n9s

modern shadow Apr 14, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Around 1000-1200 usd

teal bison Apr 14, 2020, 7:57 PM

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i meant just for the cooler

modern shadow Apr 14, 2020, 7:57 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XHjmRk

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Uhh

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Around 50-70

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I guess

teal bison Apr 14, 2020, 7:58 PM

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i mean with the 3600 you dont really need to buy a cooler unless you plan on overclocking or just for the noise

modern shadow Apr 14, 2020, 7:58 PM

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I plan on suitable overclocking

teal bison Apr 14, 2020, 7:59 PM

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well id recommend the scyth fuma 2, but its OOS so probably the 34 esports duo

modern shadow Apr 14, 2020, 7:59 PM

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So no nhu9s?

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Yeah, i mean u9s

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 8:03 PM

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What do you intend to accomplish by overclocked said chip @modern shadow

modern shadow Apr 14, 2020, 8:03 PM

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At least match 3600x performance

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 8:03 PM

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u12s is good

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You said water cooling so I was expecting like 120$ budget

modern shadow Apr 14, 2020, 8:04 PM

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So u12s and fab for p-and-p setup

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 8:05 PM

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As was mentioned earlier thats not really necessary

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modern shadow Apr 14, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Okay then, what cooler? Or just stock

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 8:08 PM

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For non overclocking stock is fine

modern shadow Apr 14, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Okay then, cutting down costs a bit

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Yep

modern shadow Apr 14, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Swapping for some fans instead

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Is that good?

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@buoyant flame

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Sure

modern shadow Apr 14, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Or should I spend more on other things

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 8:13 PM

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According to the most recent list I see tho there's room for improvement

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Was 1100 your max budget?

modern shadow Apr 14, 2020, 8:14 PM

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1000-1200usd

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Ok sounds good. I'm going to tweak it a tad

modern shadow Apr 14, 2020, 8:14 PM

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I

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K

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 8:16 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zcd8yk

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Hows that look

modern shadow Apr 14, 2020, 8:17 PM

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No tomahawk?

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Does tuf have flashback+ though

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 8:18 PM

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no

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 8:18 PM

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What even is that?

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 8:18 PM

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It's a bios flashback thing

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its useful

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but

modern shadow Apr 14, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Oh where you put a stick of usb in the board to flash

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 8:18 PM

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you basically never really need to use it

still roostBOT Apr 14, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Mr1111#1350 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Oh yah ik I didn't know it was called that

modern shadow Apr 14, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Rip

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 8:19 PM

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oh nice

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another one

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 8:19 PM

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F

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 8:19 PM

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thats the 14th I think

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Dang

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 8:19 PM

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I was on 11 when I was bouta get banned

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 8:19 PM

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But ya it doesn't have a bios flashback but you don't need it

modern shadow Apr 14, 2020, 8:19 PM

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So stick with tuf?

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 8:19 PM

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I would

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Ok I gtg rn

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 8:20 PM

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oh wait I'm on 13

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middle one is from a dif server

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Hope you get it figured out 👍

modern shadow Apr 14, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Thx

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Probably done with the build before Christmas

sullen spoke Apr 14, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Mr1 I thought you changed your ways

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Smh

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Smhmh

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 8:49 PM

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iTech I try my best

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but screwed up is not the first word in my head

sullen spoke Apr 14, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Lol

vivid coral Apr 14, 2020, 10:18 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sWp9BZ

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was wondering if this i a good set up critquie if needed

icy plume Apr 14, 2020, 10:22 PM

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that looks rather good to me, although you could downgrade to a 3600 and get a 2060 Super, and you should get a hard drive for game storage

vivid coral Apr 14, 2020, 10:22 PM

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i have hdds

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 10:25 PM

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@vivid coral https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mdypRk

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If the goal is gaming then that would be better

vivid coral Apr 14, 2020, 10:27 PM

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i heard radeon sucked tho

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but yes that is the end goal

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 10:27 PM

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It's bad for streaming/recording

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but general gaming wise is great

vivid coral Apr 14, 2020, 10:28 PM

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the link u sent me or mine

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the link rigth?

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right

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 10:28 PM

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radeon is a bad idea for streaming/recording, as in my link with the 5700XT

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If you plan to do that, get the 2060S instead

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same price as 5700XT

vivid coral Apr 14, 2020, 10:29 PM

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but the gpu is the 2060 ko

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not super

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 10:30 PM

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take my list and switch the 5700XT to the 2060S

vivid coral Apr 14, 2020, 10:31 PM

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what if i did your gpu with nvme main ang hhd for games?

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bc i figured ill get the cash in a year

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so i was thinking ahead also

cold sorrel Apr 14, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Would this be a good combo deal?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.3956890

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 10:33 PM

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You arent doing workstation tasks, so 1tb SATA would be better then 512gb NVMe

vivid coral Apr 14, 2020, 10:34 PM

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isnt the nvme faster tho

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 10:34 PM

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yea

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 10:34 PM

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well, is a 3950x faster then a 3700x?

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for gaming

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just barely, same as NVMe

cold sorrel Apr 14, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Well, I'm not going to use that as my only drive. There's a regular hard drive I'm also adding to hoard all the files I don't want to delete

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I'm sorry if it seems like I keep showing up and asking stupid questions about things

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 10:38 PM

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@cold sorrel What is your use case?

vivid coral Apr 14, 2020, 10:39 PM

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@cursive wharf the super is to expensive tho

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 10:40 PM

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@vivid coral I said to take mine and switch it out to a super, which is the same price
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JQFfGc

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cold sorrel Apr 14, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Trying to put together a new gaming PC, really. I do have most of the pieces picked, it's just a couple things I was going to get went out of stock and I'm having to look at replacement options. Like what I was going to use for my OS drive. (And the power supply I wanted keeps vanishing from stock.)

vivid coral Apr 14, 2020, 10:40 PM

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it has a compatibility warning what wont work

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 10:41 PM

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IMO you should just get 1tb gen3 NVMe instead of 512gb gen4 NVMe for gaming

vivid coral Apr 14, 2020, 10:43 PM

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but what is incompatibal in your buld

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 10:43 PM

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@vivid coral mobo vendors update the BIOS out of the factory. So unless you get old stock from 9 months ago (which is very unlikely) before the 3000 series were released then the mobo will work. If not then the BIOS would be out of date

deep skiff Apr 14, 2020, 10:44 PM

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^

cold sorrel Apr 14, 2020, 10:45 PM

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I'm just worried about accidentally picking a terrible brand for an SSD. I don't know what's good there.

vivid coral Apr 14, 2020, 10:45 PM

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can i put my power supply on it

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tho\

deep skiff Apr 14, 2020, 10:45 PM

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even if the bios isnt flashed, you can get a kit from amd to easily flash it with an older chip

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 10:45 PM

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the PSU you picked is worse

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so I wouldnt use yours

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wattage and rating mean little in terms of PSU quality

vivid coral Apr 14, 2020, 10:47 PM

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when i buld it in a year wont the ryzen 5 be out of date

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sorry if this is annoying u

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its my 1st build

cold sorrel Apr 14, 2020, 10:47 PM

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I'm annoyed that the Phanteks AMP seems to be perpetually out of stock right now. That was the PSU I was going to get originally

vivid coral Apr 14, 2020, 10:48 PM

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ouif

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@cursive wharf

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when i buld it in a year wont the ryzen 5 be out of date
@vivid coral

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 10:51 PM

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@cold sorrel Enermax Revolution DF is better tho

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650w is barely more then what AMP 650w was

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@vivid coral when you build in a year all the prices will have changed majorly

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as such you shouldnt really be planning much of anything now

cold sorrel Apr 14, 2020, 10:52 PM

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While I'm probably going to buy in the next couple of months

vivid coral Apr 14, 2020, 10:52 PM

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well yes but acculy no

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thats y i put the ryzen 7 3700x in

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it would go down

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and be more "up to date"

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 10:54 PM

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but you're planning around a 1k budget, yet you put in a expensive CPU that when buying wont be as expensive

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which makes a major difference

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new CPUs, mobos, and GPUs will have come out by then. RAM, SSD, PSU, and case prices will have changed

vivid coral Apr 14, 2020, 10:55 PM

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like the ryzen 5 is from 2017

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i just have to get the money

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i think ill have in around that time tho

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thats y i said that

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 10:58 PM

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but again, you're planning around a 1k budget from the future but using current prices. That means you have an unknown budget for the mobo, RAM, SSD, PSU, GPU, and case

vivid coral Apr 14, 2020, 10:58 PM

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a case is a case tho

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 10:59 PM

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and the prices change around a bit

vivid coral Apr 14, 2020, 10:59 PM

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u dont have to necicarraly up grade it

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 10:59 PM

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which makes a difference

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8 months ago you'd have one real fun time finding a tempered glass case for less then $60

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now you can get one for $35

vivid coral Apr 14, 2020, 10:59 PM

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ya

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hol up im doing some maths to figur out if itll acually b a year

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 11:02 PM

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3 months, 7 months, a year. Prices will still change

vivid coral Apr 14, 2020, 11:02 PM

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yes i no

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ok the later or sooner the better

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?

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 11:04 PM

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dont know the future, so cant say

vivid coral Apr 14, 2020, 11:04 PM

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nO wAY

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i tHouGHT eVrY oNE coUlD

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lol

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 11:04 PM

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but if you wait until human malware ends and things recover, prices will drop a bit. Or until new hardware comes out

cold sorrel Apr 14, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Is this the power supply you were talking about:
https://www.newegg.com/enermax-80-plus-erf650awt-650w/p/1HU-0042-000P8?Description=Enermax Revolution DF&cm_re=Enermax_Revolution_DF-_-1HU-0042-000P8-_-Product&quicklink=true

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 11:10 PM

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yes

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DF is great

cold sorrel Apr 14, 2020, 11:14 PM

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650W is technically a tad overkill, but I don't think having a little extra room to breathe for components is a bad thing

vivid coral Apr 14, 2020, 11:34 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BdgsWb

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@cursive wharf

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mutch differnt but do u think this caliber of pc is good?

spring gate Apr 14, 2020, 11:40 PM

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help lol i screwed up my pc ...i was trying to free up space on my ssd and was moving stuff to my hdd well nothing moved right and nothing would open so i tried moving them back didnt work ,,so i deleted them and i think all redownloaded except i cant get origin to download

vivid coral Apr 14, 2020, 11:41 PM

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ouif

cursive wharf Apr 15, 2020, 12:18 AM

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@vivid coral Well if it were being purchased now then not that great. You can save money on the CPU with 1600AF, samsung SSD is overpriced, KO has poor cooling and should only be gotten at $300 and if gotten at $320 is a bad deal, CXM has coil whine issues, and lastly only Zen2 or better can do 3600MT/s memory so getting it with a Zen+ chip is a waste

rancid shale Apr 15, 2020, 12:24 AM

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Hey, I need help finding parts for my friend, the max budget is $1000,it's for gaming and maybe here and there streaming. Dm me if you need anymore info. Thanks

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 1:14 AM

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ok im gonna build a pc for streaming (like one pc streaming so its used for gaming too) and i was wondering if someone could maybe make me a good list or give me suggestions

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 1:37 AM

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why don't u guys just try build one and post it here

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ppl will surely be happy to give comments on that

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at least it shows that u guys are not just asking for fun

icy plume Apr 15, 2020, 1:38 AM

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i'm not sure if they know anything about picking PC specs, otherwise they would probably make their own lists lol

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 1:38 AM

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it's still fun to try

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it's not like when u finish a 1000 dollar build list, your bank account got -$1000 anw

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or maybe it's just me being oversensitive today

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 1:56 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vv4CK4

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is this a good gaming set up?

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 1:57 AM

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hei's gonna have a word with you about that tomahawk...

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 1:58 AM

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@vivid coral mainboard is overpriced for what it is

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the psu is downright bad

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 1:58 AM

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is it?

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here ppls use seasonic alot

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 1:58 AM

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i have to fit in with $1000

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 1:58 AM

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and it haven't got much bad reputation

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 1:59 AM

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a brand does not automatically mean it is good @tepid basalt

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 1:59 AM

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around that not fixed but not that over

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 1:59 AM

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specific models actually matter.

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 1:59 AM

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whats a better psu then?

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 1:59 AM

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well if you want to change

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cv550

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corsair

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 1:59 AM

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cx you mean.

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 1:59 AM

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ok hold on imma chang that

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 1:59 AM

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the review's quite good

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no cv

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their new ones

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cx is basically out of stock in my country

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and there are reputation that cx got coil whine

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:00 AM

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@tepid basalt perhaps asking the person you are giving advice to, where they are located, is a good move then :)

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 2:01 AM

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well nvm about that out of stock

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:01 AM

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its CXM that is coilwhine

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not CX

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:01 AM

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what about evga br 80gold 500w

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 2:01 AM

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hmm okay

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:01 AM

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@vivid coral no

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:01 AM

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ok

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then what

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 2:02 AM

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and um

lyric thistle Apr 15, 2020, 2:02 AM

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cx :)

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:02 AM

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as i said, cx, specifically the 2017 version

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 2:02 AM

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u picked a non max board

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not really a problem but better go with a max board anw

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:02 AM

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wha does that change?

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 2:02 AM

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free you from the hassle of updating bios

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:03 AM

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ahhh

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:03 AM

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@vivid coral lets just focus on one thing at a time.

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:03 AM

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ok

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:03 AM

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you are in the US ?

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 2:03 AM

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just go with a cx or the mwe from cm

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:03 AM

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yes im in NY

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:04 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FdRFf7/corsair-cx-2017-550w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020121-na

Corsair CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:04 AM

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ok

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now the mobo?

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:04 AM

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first a question

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:04 AM

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ok

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:04 AM

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what do you expect to pay for the GPU?

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:05 AM

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yes this is my 1st bulild btw

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400

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 2:05 AM

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2060s hmm

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:05 AM

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as per amazon

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 2:05 AM

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better off with a rx 5700xt

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:05 AM

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@vivid coral keep the following in mind, there are no stupid questions, only silly answers.

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:05 AM

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ok

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 2:05 AM

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but ppl here seem to hate amd gpu so nvm

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:05 AM

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lol

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 2:05 AM

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but if u want u can go with that

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:06 AM

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@tepid basalt wrong.

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just plain wrong.

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 2:06 AM

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huh

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why then

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:06 AM

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i think he runs it lol

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:07 AM

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"i think he runs it lol" <- if that was aimed at me, then the answer is that i dont care about what brand something is.

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it really doesnt matter.

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:07 AM

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ok then

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:07 AM

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what matters is how it performs for a given price

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 2:07 AM

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just give an explanation

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:08 AM

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true

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 2:08 AM

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u r making 0 sense

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:08 AM

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@tepid basalt read again.

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 2:08 AM

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more like looking to pick a fight

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nvm I'm done with this

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alabama good luck with naed

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:08 AM

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ok

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 2:08 AM

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I'm off

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:08 AM

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bye

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 2:08 AM

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and btw

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don't @ me

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:08 AM

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ok

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anyway

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 2:09 AM

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that was for naed

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:09 AM

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@tepid basalt see you, next time you go all fiction over facts again :)

lyric thistle Apr 15, 2020, 2:09 AM

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bruh why so r00d to Naed 😔

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:09 AM

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can u2 relax

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:09 AM

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we are :)

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:09 AM

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ok

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:09 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/V7snTW/evga-geforce-rtx-2060-super-8-gb-sc-black-gaming-video-card-08g-p4-3062-kr <- @vivid coral

EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB SC BLACK GAMING Video Card

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have a look there as an option

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:10 AM

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ok

viral ore Apr 15, 2020, 2:10 AM

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lol

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:10 AM

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what the differnce beetween the 2

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 2:10 AM

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i said don't fking @ me

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are u illiterate or sth?

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:10 AM

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@tepid basalt no need to be rude.

viral ore Apr 15, 2020, 2:10 AM

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naed knows more than u do boi

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 2:11 AM

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at least hei gives explantion to everything he said

lyric thistle Apr 15, 2020, 2:11 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-mike-myers-danger-is-my-middle-name-danger-dangerous-gif-4226260

Tenor

danger

▶ Play video

viral ore Apr 15, 2020, 2:11 AM

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more than me too

tepid basalt Apr 15, 2020, 2:11 AM

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unlike u just picking a fight

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:11 AM

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oh god

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:11 AM

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@vivid coral the difference is availability.

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Side note, 2070 is ~400$ nowadays on newegg

unreal fossil Apr 15, 2020, 2:12 AM

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Bruh

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:12 AM

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@stoic island isnt it still bouncing around all over the place in stock?

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:12 AM

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ok but what about the proformance

unreal fossil Apr 15, 2020, 2:12 AM

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I open the chat and learn that and now I’m about to save my money for a 2070

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:12 AM

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The MSI ventus was in stock earlier today at 403$

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On Newegg

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Rtx 2070, not rtx 2070 super.

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:12 AM

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@foggy hazel

unreal fossil Apr 15, 2020, 2:12 AM

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Wait wait actually I have a Ryzen 5 2600x. What gpu should I upgrade to?

mild roost Apr 15, 2020, 2:13 AM

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my build has just started ladies and gentlemen

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Nice, good luck.

mild roost Apr 15, 2020, 2:13 AM

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i have regret but im happy lol

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:13 AM

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@vivid coral the difference between the 2 2060s 's is not there

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:14 AM

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oh ok

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so the fans then?
lol

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:14 AM

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new to pc building and stuff

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any good?

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well cant post pcp link rip

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:14 AM

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both the evga and the gigabyte are solid enough card designs @vivid coral

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@fossil kraken try again

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2sec

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:15 AM

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do i need a better mobo like they said or no

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the max 1 i think it is

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:16 AM

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@foggy hazel streaming and gaming

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:16 AM

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@vivid coral depending on what you want from your mainboard, there are better options for cheaper.

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:16 AM

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and wanted it to have rgb

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:16 AM

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@fossil kraken send the list as a pm to me, and i will post it here

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:16 AM

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ok

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:17 AM

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on behalf of @fossil kraken : https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PQd6L2

System Builder

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Damn a 2.5k build it seems

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:18 AM

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but how mutch more it the max

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:18 AM

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@vivid coral https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y3prxr/asus-tuf-b450m-pro-gaming-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-b450m-pro-gaming <- that is the normal suggestion

Asus TUF B450M-PRO GAMING Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

cursive wharf Apr 15, 2020, 2:18 AM

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@vivid coral Are you still planning to get this PC in 8+ months?

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:18 AM

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@vivid coral what he was talking about is not really technically true

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:19 AM

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possibly

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:19 AM

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then there is no reason to talk about it now @vivid coral

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at least not in the "specific" parts section of it

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:19 AM

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yes now bc when my birthday comes in may and other gathering ill get some $

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WHEN THIS covid crap is over

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:20 AM

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no need for that language :)

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Hey at least it ain't cursing

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:20 AM

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@fossil kraken its a solid enough build.

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:21 AM

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any suggestions?

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:21 AM

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some of the parts are quite expensive for what they are. but that doesnt make their performance less

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:21 AM

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ok

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are there any items that should be changed?

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:22 AM

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are we done with me then

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:22 AM

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yep lol

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:22 AM

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ight imma head out

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:22 AM

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stay safe <3

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:22 AM

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@vivid coral i dont see a point in talking about a build that we dont know the ETA on

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:22 AM

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u 2

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ok ill @ u when it is time lol

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:23 AM

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@vivid coral you are more than welcome to do that :)

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:23 AM

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i rlly gotta head out now

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:23 AM

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enjoy :)

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:23 AM

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cya

vivid coral Apr 15, 2020, 2:23 AM

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by 🙂

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:23 AM

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@cursive wharf so thank you for the heads up on that one :)

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Bai

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:23 AM

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you are trying to stick to white right @fossil kraken ?

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:23 AM

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ye and subtle black accents

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:23 AM

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white-ish

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aye aye

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:24 AM

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and rgb XD

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:24 AM

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that kinds limits you (the white part that is)

cursive wharf Apr 15, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Ye, didnt explain it in the correct way for the dude to understand why to not bother with it now

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as I already did a mock build a bit before

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:24 AM

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but again, at this budget, you are free to do "weird" choices :)

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:24 AM

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what parts particularly?

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:26 AM

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aint exactly a bunch of white cpu coolers around

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that are NOT water

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and that are not fairly expensive

cursive wharf Apr 15, 2020, 2:26 AM

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idk about availability, but Deepcool neptwin White?

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spelling might be a bit off

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:26 AM

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neptun?

cursive wharf Apr 15, 2020, 2:27 AM

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pretty sure name is more weird then that

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:27 AM

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nope, it is neptwin

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gah! marketing departments!

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:27 AM

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you guys debating about spelling and im searching wtf that is lol

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:28 AM

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http://www.deepcool.com/product/cpucooler/2016-11/7_6218.shtml

NEPTWIN WHITE DEEPCOOL- CPU Air Coolers

NEPTWIN WHITE - DEEPCOOL is dedicated to provide the best Laptop Cooler,CPU coolers, Computer Chassis and PC Power Supply.

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sorry Sampo70 :)

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:28 AM

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no problem lol

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:28 AM

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This?
https://www.newegg.com/p/1B4-00Y3-00067?&quicklink=true

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:28 AM

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i was think on aio tho

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it looks and preforms well

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i think....

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but never take my work

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word*

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:29 AM

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At the budget, I'd say you can get an AIO if you really like the looks of it. Performance wise they're pretty close together between a decent AIO and Air cooler.

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:29 AM

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as for how it looks, we can only take your word for it :)

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aye aye

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@stoic island the talk now is mainly looks

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:29 AM

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AIO takes a slight lead.

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:30 AM

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and price

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:30 AM

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lol

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Yea, and I was wondering if that price to pay is worth it in their opinion

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:30 AM

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aye, that is something that only Sampo can decide on

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:30 AM

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looks > money

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XD

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well but not totally

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Can I ask what it will be used for? If it wasn't asked already.

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:31 AM

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streaming

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:31 AM

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the neptwin is 57-ish usd

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Weird, the am4 one on Newegg was 105

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:32 AM

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and gaming

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:32 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wPkj4D/deepcool-neptwin-white-7434-cfm-cpu-cooler-neptwin-white

Deepcool NEPTWIN WHITE 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Ah, Amazon.

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:32 AM

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lol

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:33 AM

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One of the listings didn't list am4, and was about 50$, and the other one listed am4, and was near 105

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On mobile right now, so I'll leave the checking of if that one works with am4 to you guys.

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:33 AM

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im just gonna let the smart ones deal with that

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:34 AM

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its just an option Sampo

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not trying to force you to use a Air cooler

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:35 AM

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yeah ik

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Anyways, I believe it's fairly easy to fit in an AIO at that budget, so shall we move on to the discussion of other parts?

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:35 AM

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because it is two very different visual "styles"

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we can

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lets grab the 970 evo as the next part

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because that is one expensive drive

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:37 AM

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XD

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:37 AM

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as in, that is roughly the price of a 1tb drive

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:37 AM

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theres also a plus ;)

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:37 AM

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not making it better :)

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:38 AM

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The qvo might be an okay choice, but I'm not too familiar with the pricing of qvo drives

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:38 AM

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the QVO is fine enough

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:38 AM

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ok

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:38 AM

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its the 970 evo plus that is very expensive for no practical reason

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:38 AM

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soooo....

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:39 AM

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looking in the lists atm

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:39 AM

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ok

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:39 AM

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A80 time?

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:39 AM

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its a solid enough option

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VXyqqs/silicon-power-a80-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-su001tbp34a80m28ab

Silicon Power A80 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:40 AM

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im lookin for a fast drive to like to have windows for fast bootup and some extra but then one more for like other stuff

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:40 AM

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aye

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the "problem/challenge" when talking about this Sampo is that you can fairly easily make a benchmark that "shows" a difference

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but you wont actually "feel" a difference

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make sense?

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:41 AM

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yh

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:41 AM

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"shows" a difference is basically what you are paying for with the samsung

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:42 AM

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ok haha

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:42 AM

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and the linked above drive is double the size for 10 extra usd

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:42 AM

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ok thx

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what about gpu and cpu?

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:43 AM

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for a build around this budget? it seems reasonable

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:43 AM

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ok

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so the only bad thing was one of the storage things

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i feel pretty damn smart rn

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:44 AM

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i would personally switch the ram to 2* 16

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:44 AM

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ok

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:44 AM

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You still did good.

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:44 AM

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because when you want to upgrade down the line, you dont end up with excess sticks

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:44 AM

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ok

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Also, why not Trident z neo 3600mhz cl16? thats cheaper for the same performance I believe at 2x16gb

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:45 AM

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well the corsair ones look sexy ')

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;)

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:45 AM

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(190$ rn compared to the 220$ of corsair)

📎 unknown.png

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:45 AM

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ok

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:46 AM

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I mean, trident z neos do look pretty good imo, but if you think corsair looks better, you got enough budget to keep that.

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:46 AM

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imma do the neos then

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:47 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/H7hmP6/gskill-trident-z-neo-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c18d-32gtzn <- so those then

G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:47 AM

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yh

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:47 AM

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@stoic island you got a retailer limit on your end?

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because those are listed as 180 on my end

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:48 AM

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for me 189.99

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:48 AM

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weird

📎 unknown.png

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190$ on newegg
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232861

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:48 AM

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📎 Screenshot_2020-04-14_at_10.48.39_PM.png

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:48 AM

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http://puu.sh/FxGny/11d9030a80.png

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:49 AM

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idk thats weird

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:49 AM

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can you link the newegg?

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:49 AM

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someone is playing around with the cookies it would seem

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232867?Item=N82E16820232867&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2FH7hmP6%2Fgskill-trident-z-neo-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c18d-32gtzn&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-Rz_tx1xFWHqhOSx0s9qVQw

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Oh I see

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:50 AM

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woah

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:50 AM

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your link is the cl18 kit

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mine was the cl16 kit

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:50 AM

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ah

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:50 AM

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ohhhh

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imma act like i understand

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:50 AM

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you could have seen that in the pcpp link @stoic island

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it says so right in the link itself :)

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 2:51 AM

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ah

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:51 AM

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which one is better

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:51 AM

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cl16

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:51 AM

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like whihc one should i use

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ok

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can i have a link

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:51 AM

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especially when the difference is only 10usd

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:51 AM

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idk whch one that is

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ok

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:51 AM

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2sec

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w3FKHx/gskill-trident-z-neo-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gtznc

G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:52 AM

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thx

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:52 AM

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np :)

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:52 AM

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ummm

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the link shows me 189

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RIP

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:53 AM

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yes

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it is supposed to

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:53 AM

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oh ok'

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my bad lol

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:53 AM

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what i linked originally was a misunderstanding between Mr1111 and me :)

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:53 AM

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oh ok

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thx for the help

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:54 AM

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you are very welcome :)

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and thank you for the patience :)

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have you thought about the PSU btw?

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:56 AM

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my brother actually is into pc's and he gave me one

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like a good one

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80+ titanium

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1200w

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:56 AM

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just a FYI tidbit

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those numbers does not mean it is good

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:57 AM

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ok

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:57 AM

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(it doesnt mean it isnt either)

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:57 AM

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idk then

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:57 AM

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do you have the actual model of the PSU?

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:58 AM

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yh sec

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my b

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imma dumbass

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it plat

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📎 Screenshot_2020-04-14_at_10.59.16_PM.png

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 2:59 AM

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:) that doesnt change what i said above thou :)

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 2:59 AM

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does that ;)

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idk

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i just dont want to buy a new one

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if i have one thats at least decent

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:00 AM

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and that is a fair/good psu

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so that is fair enough

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:00 AM

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:)

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:01 AM

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the reason i question it, is that people have a habit of waving around the wrong specs as "fact"

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:01 AM

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another prob dumb question tho

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:01 AM

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there are no stupid questions, only silly answers

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:01 AM

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whats the difference between windows 10 pro and no pro

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and 100$ windows and cheap windows

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:03 AM

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re: pro vs home: If you dont know you need pro, then dont worry about it. (however, if you are getting a cheap key, just get pro)

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:03 AM

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tf that makes me confused lol

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:03 AM

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re: retail vs oem key (normally): technically its the difference in how many times you can activate things

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the simple answer to both is this:

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get a cheap pro key

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:04 AM

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ok

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:04 AM

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and just nod and say yes

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:)

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:04 AM

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yes

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yes

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yes

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:)

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nid

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nod

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nod

lyric thistle Apr 15, 2020, 3:04 AM

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yes :)

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:05 AM

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its one of those details that doesnt really matter

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:05 AM

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yes yes nod nod

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:06 AM

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:)

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but to get back to the core of your system

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i would personally stick with the 12 core 3900x

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:07 AM

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so the one i had right?

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:07 AM

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aye

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it might be tempting to go down a model and save a chunk of money, but imo, that would be a bit silly

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:08 AM

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ok

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:08 AM

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because when looking ahead, 8 core and above is going to be the norm

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:08 AM

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when thats the norm imma go up to 32 ;)

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just need some kind dontions

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:09 AM

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not unless you want to pay a LOT more you are not :P

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as in, the cpu alone is only 2k

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:10 AM

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and then i need a better mobo

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:10 AM

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oh yes

still roostBOT Apr 15, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Sampo70#8806 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:11 AM

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however, keep this in mind

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:11 AM

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and tr4 mobos cost a **** ton

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it takes out my stars lol

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:11 AM

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they are also able to do a LOT of things that the x570 boards cant :)

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:11 AM

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and they come at about 3x the price

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and then imma need a better gpu

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:12 AM

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believe it or not, they are not actually that expensive, when all things are compared :)

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:12 AM

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getting a new nvidia 3080ti

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then a 4080ti

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:12 AM

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going to have to wait a bit for that

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:12 AM

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maybe

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:13 AM

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no maybe about it :)

lyric thistle Apr 15, 2020, 3:13 AM

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maybe :p

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:13 AM

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who says u cant game in ur 90s

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:13 AM

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enterprise launch is more important to nvidia vs the consumer

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:13 AM

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or i guess 100s

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:13 AM

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so the 3000 series will most likely not be here until late this year

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:14 AM

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btw any monitor u reccoment gonna go for msi c4 oness a 34in and 27in is that any good

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i need 2

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:16 AM

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try and link me

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:16 AM

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ill dm u

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:16 AM

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because that model name does not ring a bell

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you can post here now @fossil kraken

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your level has gone up, that is why you have a blue name now

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:17 AM

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omg yay lol

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rsjNnQ/msi-optix-g32c4-315-1920x1080-165-hz-monitor-optix-g32c4

MSI Optix G32C4 31.5" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor

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cheap

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but i think its good

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:17 AM

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its is also very very big for that resolution

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:17 AM

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well im also gonna get

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/m8jNnQ/msi-optix-g27c4-270-1920x1080-165-hz-monitor-optix-g27c4

MSI Optix G27C4 27.0" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:18 AM

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okay, lets talk monitors and monitor resolution in general then :)

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:18 AM

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xd

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 3:18 AM

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24in is the usual for 1080p monitors

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are you sure you don't want a 27in 1440p monitor?

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:18 AM

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sure ig

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:19 AM

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@fossil kraken what sized tv are you used to?

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:19 AM

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like i said im dumb

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ummm

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:19 AM

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no, you are not.

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:19 AM

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75

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:19 AM

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its just a difference of experience.

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:19 AM

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but i game on a laptop

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which is 15

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:19 AM

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resolution on the tv? 4k?

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:19 AM

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idk lol

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:19 AM

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fair enough

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doesnt matter as such

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the laptop is 1080p?

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:20 AM

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yh

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:20 AM

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as in 1920 * 1080?

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okay

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:20 AM

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i think

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lol

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:20 AM

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again, doesnt matter much

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what matters is the following

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:20 AM

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ok

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dont make it hard

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:20 AM

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imagine the clarity you see on your laptop

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:20 AM

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ok

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:21 AM

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now make the screen itself 4 times as big physically

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2 times the width

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:21 AM

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thats pretty damn huge

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:21 AM

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2 times the height

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yes, but the clarity does not go up

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because the resolution is the same

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:21 AM

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ok....

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:22 AM

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there are the same number of pixels

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:22 AM

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so im getting higher res or smaller monitor

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:22 AM

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just stretched over a way bigger area

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:22 AM

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so that looks bad

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im guessing

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:22 AM

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well, yes/no

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IF you are really close to it, yes

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:22 AM

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great answer

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:22 AM

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if you are far from it, no

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:22 AM

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ok

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so i need monitors what am i getting

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1440p?

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1080?

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:23 AM

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that really depends on your desk actually :)

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and how much space you have

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:23 AM

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custom ;)

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:23 AM

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because IF you are sitting with your face 20 cm from the screen

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:24 AM

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im not

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or am i

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idk

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i dont think so

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:24 AM

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:)

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lets start by looking at the G27c4

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https://www.msi.com/Monitor/Optix-G27C4/Specification

Optix G27C4 | MSI Global

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:25 AM

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ye

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im ready for the hate lol

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:25 AM

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the physical size is what we are curious about

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:25 AM

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ok

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 3:25 AM

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(I gotta go do something else, but ima just suggest the mag272cqr for now)

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:25 AM

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ok

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 3:25 AM

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I'm a MSI fanboi :p

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:25 AM

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611.5 x 457.9 x 225.4 mm / 24.08 x 18.23 x 8.87 inch <- these are the dimensions from their page

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:26 AM

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cool....

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but thats the thing

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:26 AM

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width x height x depth

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yes?

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:26 AM

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if i have a 6ft desk i cant have a 24 inch monitor

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it aint work like that

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and if i do i need like 3 and then that costs a lot lol

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:27 AM

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well, just because you have a big desk, that does not mean you need monitors on every inch of it

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:27 AM

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yh

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but imagine you desk

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:28 AM

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i have a 180 wide, but 90 cm deep desk

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:28 AM

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now times it lenght by 2

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:28 AM

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because i actually prefer having working space in front of my monitors

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:28 AM

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and put one monitor

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well same

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:29 AM

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depending on what you actually use your desk for, having a very wide desk with just a single monitor could be the right option for you

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and that is what matters

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not what I would prefer, but what is right for you :)

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:29 AM

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idk

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ill make you proud

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:30 AM

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and this topic is not something you need to have an answer for right this second

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:30 AM

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ok

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sure

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:30 AM

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its just something to think about really

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:30 AM

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yh

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:31 AM

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because monitors are generally the last thing you make a choice about (when we are talking about gaming machines)

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:31 AM

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ok

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are we gonna think about something else or is this it?

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:32 AM

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however, as i mentioned, in the case of the G27c4, the physical width of the monitor, especially when talking about a multi monitor setup, comes into play

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:33 AM

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ok...............

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:33 AM

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and the recommended experiment to try is this: actually measure out how much space it takes and then try and place yourself where you would imagine yourself sitting

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:33 AM

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thats smart

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:33 AM

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and then hold something up at the corners of that "field of view"

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:34 AM

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woah

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200000iq

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:34 AM

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because in the case of the g27c4, thats a very wide field

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:34 AM

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is it tho

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maybe

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:35 AM

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its 48 inches from side to side

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:35 AM

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tru

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but some people rocking more than that

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:35 AM

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oh yes, that does not mean that they are comfortable with it

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:35 AM

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tru

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:35 AM

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a lot of people have setups that look cool, but are very impractical to use

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:36 AM

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yeah

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:36 AM

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here at home i prefer a 2 screen setup

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and one of them is a vertical screen

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:36 AM

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i might do that then

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and if i use one mostly for chat

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THATS GENIUS

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:36 AM

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http://puu.sh/FxHcY/f64e95b5c2.png

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that is how my setup is

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:37 AM

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id have it on the right tho

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:37 AM

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and yes, discord and other chat things are on the left

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aye aye :)

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i do a LOT of text reading, and the vertical is ideal for that

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:37 AM

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yh

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:37 AM

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which is why i started with that

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:38 AM

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and if u hate it ya can change it

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that actually kinda smart ngl

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:38 AM

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aye, i can just move the screen and then rotate it on the stand

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:38 AM

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what if

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i use a 31in

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as a vertical

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:39 AM

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same problem/challenge as earlier

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just vertically instead of horizontially

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:39 AM

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ok i never said anything

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:40 AM

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ok i never said anything <- could you elaborate?

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:40 AM

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wdym

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is there any especially good monitors that are 27in

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:41 AM

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the one that @stoic island mentioned earlier comes to mind

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:41 AM

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ok

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:42 AM

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https://www.msi.com/Monitor/Optix-MAG272CQR/Specification

Optix MAG272CQR | MSI Global

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Hello again

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:42 AM

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it is a 1440p one

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 3:42 AM

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165hz at that, VA panel.

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:42 AM

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right on time

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 3:42 AM

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400$ iirc, should be in stock on newegg

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:42 AM

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XD

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 3:42 AM

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yea lol

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:43 AM

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what about the Asus VG278QR 27.0" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor

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but idk

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its not 1440

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 3:43 AM

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reviews are weird on this for some reason, 1 single eggie and 1 5 eggies
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824475051

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:43 AM

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lol

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:43 AM

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keep in mind, just because i personally prefer 1440p for 27inch monitors, does not mean you have to :)

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 3:44 AM

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I'm suggest 1440p just because more pixels11!1!

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:44 AM

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yh

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so it looks more better

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10/10 grammer

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:45 AM

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no comment :P

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personally i really like IPS panels

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again, that is for my personal preference

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and the use case that i have

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:46 AM

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tf is an ips panel

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lol

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:46 AM

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and i am NOT a heavy gamer

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 3:46 AM

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I like using a mix of 1s and !s for sarcasm

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:47 AM

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https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1890-panel-comparison-tn-ips-pls-va-crt <- this is the simple answer @fossil kraken

Display Panel Type Differences Defined - TN vs. IPS, PLS, VA, & More

Today we will be focusing on the differences between IPS, TN, PLS, and VA panels, but we will also be covering CRT for grounding, despite CRT not being an LCD panel type. -

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:47 AM

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thx

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:47 AM

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keep in mind, panel tech keeps on changing

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but the basics are roughly the same still

fossil kraken Apr 15, 2020, 3:48 AM

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is there big difference between 240hz vs 144hz

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:48 AM

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imo, no

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but then again, i am also not exactly a spring chicken anymore

sly python Apr 15, 2020, 3:54 AM

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@foggy hazel Thanks for the help the other day did a M-Flash on the bios and disconnected a USB mic with a kinked cord. Has yet to crash so fingers crossed that was the issue.

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Still going to replace the PSU as well as the kinked usb cord though better safe hen sorry

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:55 AM

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@sly python that is really good to hear :)

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you could test the kinked usb cord by plugging that into a spare system if you have one?

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and you are very welcome :)

sly python Apr 15, 2020, 3:55 AM

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yea ill try that here in a bit 🙂

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 3:56 AM

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something to keep in mind, usb cables are a "part that will wear out"

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so it isnt something to blame the mic manufacturer for

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or whoever did the cable

sly python Apr 15, 2020, 3:57 AM

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yea understood

oak moss Apr 15, 2020, 3:57 AM

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my bank account hurts like a MF 😂

cold sorrel Apr 15, 2020, 4:07 AM

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My list as it currently stands: (Though still looking for a replacement for the M2 drive, since the one on it is out of stock)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wznnCL

System Builder

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 4:08 AM

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@cold sorrel just curious, but why the x570?

cold sorrel Apr 15, 2020, 4:12 AM

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Because if I'm building new, might as well go all in. I really like the I/O plate being pre-installed so I won't have to fuss with it. I also won't have to worry about BIOS issues right away.

tranquil dust Apr 15, 2020, 4:13 AM

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most b450 boards wont have bios issues with 3rd gen ryzen

cold sorrel Apr 15, 2020, 4:14 AM

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I also need Wi-fi. I mean, I'm trying to convince Mom to let me run an Ethernet cable to my room to hook into, but not having a lot of luck with that

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 4:16 AM

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fair enough :)

tranquil dust Apr 15, 2020, 4:17 AM

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^

ripe wind Apr 15, 2020, 4:20 AM

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Hello, guys I’m knew to this and im building my first pc.. was wondering can you guys help me out.. if i purchased the ryzen 5 1600 will i need a graphics card and if so what would you guys recommend

lyric thistle Apr 15, 2020, 4:21 AM

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yes, the 1600 does not include integrated graphics.

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 4:21 AM

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Depends on your budget for graphics card

lyric thistle Apr 15, 2020, 4:21 AM

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and if you want the better 1600, go for the one with AF in the model number as opposed to AE

cold sorrel Apr 15, 2020, 4:22 AM

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I found the 1660 Super to be good enough for what I intend to do for now. I started to talk myself into a 2060 Super and backed off again.

ripe wind Apr 15, 2020, 4:26 AM

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I never thought pc builds would be this pricey, but do to the pandemic I’ve decided to pick up a hobby

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Thanks guys

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Lastly, the pc will not function without the graphics card, right?

lyric thistle Apr 15, 2020, 4:27 AM

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I'm actually not sure about that 👀

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you won't get a display output without the GPU with no iGPU on the CPU

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 4:29 AM

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the machine will work just fine without a gpu

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as in, it will boot

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you just wont be able to tell what it is doing

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(for the lurkers: yes, that is not technically true, you can, if you have the setup for it, but for consumer setups, that is generally not the case)

lyric thistle Apr 15, 2020, 4:30 AM

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something like the Ryzen 5 3400G would give you the ability to use the onboard display outputs

ripe wind Apr 15, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Okay got it.. thanks

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 4:31 AM

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and yes, something like the 3400G would enable the onboard display outs, because it has a GPU in it

lyric thistle Apr 15, 2020, 4:33 AM

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I have an A8-7600 that I want to build a system with, it has iGPU so I won't need to put a cheap office GPU in it Chef_Kiss

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 4:33 AM

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true, because it has a below cheap gpu already in it

lyric thistle Apr 15, 2020, 4:34 AM

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:)

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I'm not sure what exactly I will use it for...the first thing that comes to mind is NAS, but it's powerful enough to do something further than just that

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it doesn't have L3 cache from what I gather

oak moss Apr 15, 2020, 4:36 AM

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just ordered my 3 last pc parts. est delivery is may 3-6 😭😩

rough hornet Apr 15, 2020, 4:38 AM

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asdwasdwasdwasdw

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wsad wsad wsad wsad wsad wsad wsad wsad wsad wsad wsad wsad wsad wsad wsad wsad wsad

lyric thistle Apr 15, 2020, 4:39 AM

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ah yes

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good point

cold sorrel Apr 15, 2020, 4:40 AM

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I'm thinking somebody is playing a game and forgot the Discord window was up. Or kitty on keyboard

paper ermine Apr 15, 2020, 4:54 AM

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If I have 2 different fans. One is corsair and let's say the other one is a cooler master fan. Would the cooler master fan work with a commander pro?

lyric thistle Apr 15, 2020, 4:54 AM

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what kind of maths is this 👀

paper ermine Apr 15, 2020, 4:55 AM

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I just want an answer lmao

lyric thistle Apr 15, 2020, 4:56 AM

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I don't see why it wouldn't work

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what kind of power source goes to the Commander Pro?

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oo it's a SATA power device

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I would imagine any given fan would work on it

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Corsair, Cooler Master, generic out of an old office computer, etc.

proper ore Apr 15, 2020, 6:00 AM

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im looking for an amd motherboard for less than 120 that includes onboard wifi

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not having much luck

lyric thistle Apr 15, 2020, 6:01 AM

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I'd prefer a separate WiFi card

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dunno if you'll find a board with onboard WiFi that cheap

proper ore Apr 15, 2020, 6:02 AM

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are there issues with micro atx fitting a wifi card plus a gpu?

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 6:03 AM

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@proper ore https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kcCFf7/asrock-b450mac-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450mac

ASRock B450M/AC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

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that is a board

proper ore Apr 15, 2020, 6:04 AM

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out of stock i think

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 6:04 AM

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in stock at amazon

proper ore Apr 15, 2020, 6:06 AM

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ah nice, any concerns with it paired with a 1600 af and 5600xt, no overclocking

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 6:06 AM

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nah

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the main downside to that board is the very slim port selection on the IO side

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as in, if you look at the usb etc

proper ore Apr 15, 2020, 6:07 AM

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i mean i think as long it supports a mouse keyboard and head set it shoudl be fine for hte needs planned

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 6:07 AM

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as in, there are probably boards with less ports, but yeah :)

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and yes, if you are fine with that, its a working board

proper ore Apr 15, 2020, 6:07 AM

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just want to put the money in the GPU and CPU

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 6:08 AM

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fair enough

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dont forget a ssd

proper ore Apr 15, 2020, 6:08 AM

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got an nvme and HDD for mass storage

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 6:09 AM

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oki :)

proper ore Apr 15, 2020, 6:09 AM

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trying to maximize a 750 budget

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not including case or monitors

deep flame Apr 15, 2020, 6:23 AM

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Anyone want to help me build a pic?

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Never build one

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 6:24 AM

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if you start with what your budget is

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and when you plan on actually buying the parts

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we can talk about it

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 6:58 AM

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@oak moss you are aware that QVO drives are not as such recommended for main drives right?

oak moss Apr 15, 2020, 6:59 AM

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wym?

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 6:59 AM

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that the flash used in those are generally seen as being not as durable

still roostBOT Apr 15, 2020, 7:01 AM

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xHertt#7836 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 7:01 AM

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no need for that language

oak moss Apr 15, 2020, 7:01 AM

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my bad. i forgot

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never thought about that tho..

foggy hazel Apr 15, 2020, 7:03 AM

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it is just something to know/keep-in-mind

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and perhaps plan ahead and buy another ssd as the first upgrade :)

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it is not as if the drive will implode on first use :)

surreal rock Apr 15, 2020, 8:31 AM

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Question I gave a AMD Ryzen 2700x for a CPU, ROG Strix BF450-gaming amd 2x8GB for a total of 16gb sticks of Corsair vengeance For amd ryzen at 3200 and am planning on getting a zotac 1660 6GB card for graphics and a Corsair RM white 800 watt psu and was wondering what m.2 to put into my build to maximize performance.

eager chasm Apr 15, 2020, 11:02 AM

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Any NVMe will work, at those speeds you won't really notice the difference from one to the next

buoyant flame Apr 15, 2020, 1:56 PM

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@low obsidian on that list that you put in #build-pics what part are you trying to upgrade?

ebon sorrel Apr 15, 2020, 2:11 PM

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Does anyone know how to get rid of CoilWhine?

low obsidian Apr 15, 2020, 2:47 PM

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@buoyant flame the hard disk and maybe the graphic card in the future

buoyant flame Apr 15, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Well someone deleted the list in build pics but yes. Gpus are essentially universal in compatibility. And you could always put a new ssd in there

sudden turret Apr 15, 2020, 3:14 PM

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@ebon sorrel you can't

sullen spoke Apr 15, 2020, 3:28 PM

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get a new fan

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 3:29 PM

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wheeee

simple stag Apr 15, 2020, 4:02 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2sHGJb

System Builder

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i really like this one, i know most have said this board is trash but there are so many articles and videos saying it is best b450 for ryzen 3000 so idk what to do haha

viral ore Apr 15, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Don't read articles...

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Lol

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Why a 750w?

simple stag Apr 15, 2020, 4:04 PM

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no reason

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i just want fully modular

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that PSU is the item im most open to changing bc idc anything about them really

viral ore Apr 15, 2020, 4:06 PM

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For a 3600 and a 2060s, that's like 350w tbh

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So get a 550w psu

simple stag Apr 15, 2020, 4:06 PM

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ok let me find one rn

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what do the colors mean

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like bronze gold etc

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just better quality?

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 4:08 PM

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that means efficiency

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just defer to the tier list
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

Linus Tech Tips

PSU Tier List 4.0

PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 12.4 welcome to the brand new PSU Tier List! Created and maintained by @Princess Luna, @DatTestBench, @Stefan Payne, @GreatMasterAden, @Juular, @Elisis and @LukeSavenije Last Update: 12-04-2020 Tiering of various units is opinion based off reputable sour...

simple stag Apr 15, 2020, 4:09 PM

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TY MR

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yYLB7T should be good now - says this one is on mid tier rig which is me lol

System Builder

viral ore Apr 15, 2020, 4:11 PM

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Also, what about size? Why not a smaller mATX board and case?

simple stag Apr 15, 2020, 4:12 PM

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i just like the way those look, what case would you suggest

viral ore Apr 15, 2020, 4:12 PM

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It would be the same performance wise, but I'm just wondering if you would prefer a smaller physical footprint

simple stag Apr 15, 2020, 4:12 PM

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yeah that might be nice tbh

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i live in apartment so not a bad idea if board is not limiting performance

viral ore Apr 15, 2020, 4:16 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wK2mBZ

System Builder

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I really like that case

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It's more, but tbh a motherboard is just a pcb, and when you not ocing and on a budget, it really doesn't matter

simple stag Apr 15, 2020, 4:17 PM

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reviews on that one were eh

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the mobo

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pkgbrV

System Builder

viral ore Apr 15, 2020, 4:17 PM

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Did it not work?

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The mobo?

simple stag Apr 15, 2020, 4:17 PM

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it worked but ppl were saying issues with bios and installing windows and such

viral ore Apr 15, 2020, 4:18 PM

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That's not really how that works

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 4:18 PM

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msi b450m board?

simple stag Apr 15, 2020, 4:18 PM

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MSI bad?

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 4:18 PM

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non-max might still have outdated bios

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I'm not sure

simple stag Apr 15, 2020, 4:18 PM

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it has onboard bios flash in case

viral ore Apr 15, 2020, 4:18 PM

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Idk, it's been like 6 months tho

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It's been a looooooooong time

simple stag Apr 15, 2020, 4:18 PM

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i feel like most should be good by now unless used or refurbished

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im not worried about that very much tbh

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mostly just want the board to run great and limit issues if at all possible bc i am dumb

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 4:19 PM

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should work

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viral ore Apr 15, 2020, 4:19 PM

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Just don't buy from eBay and ur good

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 4:19 PM

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also flash bios button

simple stag Apr 15, 2020, 4:19 PM

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TY guys

stoic island Apr 15, 2020, 4:19 PM

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that is great

simple stag Apr 15, 2020, 4:19 PM

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super helpful

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especially case and PSU where im ignorant af lol

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im pumped!!!

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and 2060 super should destroy any game on 1080 right?

viral ore Apr 15, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Yeah, pretty much

simple stag Apr 15, 2020, 4:20 PM

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fck yeah

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Oh one last question

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Should I maybe get some extra Fans? I’m assuming with all those parts crammed in smaller case it’ll need some help cooling? Or is it fine as is

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I won’t be over clocking or anything

cold sorrel Apr 15, 2020, 4:26 PM

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If you have the budget, some extra case fans aren't a bad idea

buoyant flame Apr 15, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Uphere makes some decent cheap rgb fans

simple stag Apr 15, 2020, 4:28 PM

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awesome thanks guys

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and i have trump bucks dedicated to the build so yeah i think its worth to get a few fans

viral ore Apr 15, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Lmao nice

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The case comes with two fans already

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So you can get two RGB ones for the front and use the other two for rear and top exhaust

cold sorrel Apr 15, 2020, 4:36 PM

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I am also sad the graphics card I had all picked is out of stock again. I should have just pulled the trigger on most of the parts last night and waited for the things that were still out of stock

woeful agate Apr 15, 2020, 4:42 PM

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hey guys

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can anyone give me thoughts of this build?: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/4dzfGc

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anything to change?

buoyant flame Apr 15, 2020, 4:44 PM

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I wouldn't personally get that mobo

woeful agate Apr 15, 2020, 4:45 PM

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I would

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it has good vrms

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I dont need wifi tho

sullen spoke Apr 15, 2020, 4:46 PM

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I am not a fan of the tomahawk max, I'd rather go asus

woeful agate Apr 15, 2020, 4:46 PM

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b450 f?

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u sure?

sullen spoke Apr 15, 2020, 4:46 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

woeful agate Apr 15, 2020, 4:49 PM

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imma ask in general chat cause theres more ppl lol

weak saffron Apr 15, 2020, 8:05 PM

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I'm trying to get an upgrade but all the prts I was looking at are sold out.

cursive wharf Apr 15, 2020, 8:15 PM

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@woeful agate Tomahawk compared to Asus TUF Pro or Gigabyte Aorus Pro. Getting Asus/Gigabyte gets you a better sound chip, more M2 slots, better network chip (if Gigabyte), WiFi (if Gigabyte), more x16 slots, more RGB headers, and probs a few other things I forgot. Basically, Tomahawk sucks for price

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Esp mATX b450 pro gaming, because it's cheaper and better then Tomahawk

buoyant flame Apr 15, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Thank you this

brave oracle Apr 15, 2020, 9:15 PM

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so.....I need help making a white themed build for around 1.1k, that has to included monitor.
and some rgb

cold sorrel Apr 15, 2020, 9:19 PM

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I'm not sure white monitors exist.

waxen verge Apr 15, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Spraypaint does. peepoSadSip

tidal radish Apr 15, 2020, 11:13 PM

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I want to upgrade my build all-together

I currently have
- i5 6402P ~ 2.8 GHz
- GTX 960
- ASUS H170-PRO MOBO
- 8Gb of DDR4 Ram

With the upgrades I was looking at doing a i7 or i9 but saw some good selections from AMD, I'm a bit lost on knowing which would be better now as about 4 years ago (when I got this PC) AMD was not very apparent.

I have asked friends about GPU selections but im still a bit lost and looking for what would be good in the long run with ability to build onto in the future.

proud galleon Apr 15, 2020, 11:33 PM

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@tidal radish What kind of budget were you looking at and what were you hoping to do with the upgraded build? I'm no professional by any means but I've been getting a bit better at more specific builds and would be happy to help.

tidal radish Apr 15, 2020, 11:37 PM

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@proud galleon Mostly gaming, editing, and steaming. I need something that can run most games Med-High graphics and with a decent fps, i get about 30-60 running warzone with minimal graphics. My current budget for the PC itself is around $1500 as I want some extra to put towards a new chair and keyboard etc.

proud galleon Apr 16, 2020, 12:09 AM

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@tidal radish Like I said, not as experienced as many others here, but this CPU, GPU, MOBO, and RAM combo would be great for your needs and leaves a bit of room for upgradeability: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MH6B9G

However I did not take storage, psu, a case, and a cooler into consideration as I wasn't sure if you already had plans or those pieces of hardware were already available for you. I also wasn't sure on the theme of your build but I think the list would give you a good basis. If you need to downgrade anything to make room for other parts, the RTX 2070 Super would also be a excellent option for a GPU. If you're not as concerned about having the most up-to-date chipset for the motherboard, there are some excellent B450 motherboards available as well.

System Builder

tidal radish Apr 16, 2020, 12:27 AM

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@proud galleon I appreciate it!

proud galleon Apr 16, 2020, 12:29 AM

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No worries, happy hunting/building!

sharp blaze Apr 16, 2020, 12:40 AM

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Ok, stupid question coming(first time builder) the power and reset switch plugs DONT have a + or - like the LEDs do, I ua enlooked in the manual and it didnt really help, which way do they go in?

cursive wharf Apr 16, 2020, 12:47 AM

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@tidal radish With that list you'd probably want a SSD and maybe new PSU (note: PSU quality cant just be determined by wattage or rating and I generally vote for good PSUs)

small mural Apr 16, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Hey all!

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I'm having an issue with a recent upgrade.

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If anyone would like to help me sort this out.

cursive wharf Apr 16, 2020, 12:48 AM

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@sharp blaze doesnt matter. Think of the button as two wires. All the button does is push the one wire to the other making them connect. Now if you take a wire, just a standard wire, does it matter which direction you put it in? Usually not

tidal radish Apr 16, 2020, 12:48 AM

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@cursive wharf Yeah I am wanting to get something like a 80 Plat yeah?

cursive wharf Apr 16, 2020, 12:49 AM

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@small mural a great recommendation when asking for help on a server
https://dontasktoask.com/

Don't ask to ask, just ask

small mural Apr 16, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Oop

cursive wharf Apr 16, 2020, 12:49 AM

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@tidal radish not necessarily. A PSU that's 80+ plat that'd I'd recommend would be quite pricy. Decent 80+ gold would be fine

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/n34BD3/enermax-revolution-df-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-erf650awt

Enermax Revolution D.F. 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX ...

small mural Apr 16, 2020, 12:50 AM

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So I was upgrading from a Pentium G4400 all the way up to an I5 9100, I updated the bios and all but still nothing. Fans kick on for a sec then the machinree powers itself off.

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It works with the old CPU, but not the I5 I just got, same socket type if that helps.

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Also the mobo is an MSI B250M gaming pro.

tidal radish Apr 16, 2020, 12:51 AM

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@cursive wharf Is 650w sufficient for that build? or should i go safer and get a 750+?

cursive wharf Apr 16, 2020, 12:51 AM

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that chipset doesnt work with 9th gen @small mural

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@tidal radish to give perspective on how overkill 750w is, a good 550w PSU can run stock 3950x + 2080Ti