#building-and-recc-chat | Newegg | Page 496

simple stag Apr 13, 2020, 6:57 PM

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sry sry

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i felt bad pinging him once i saw pin

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 6:59 PM

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anyways

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hmm

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ima keep it this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gMBM27

System Builder

cursive wharf Apr 13, 2020, 7:29 PM

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switch out the pulse. Afaik it still has video port issues (smth like HDMI being the only usable port as all others get random blackscreens)

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 7:42 PM

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@stoic island "that is true, but I'm usually pretty rash and only really looks at the tier lists for quality of parts and newegg for prices" <- you respond to much more trivial things than i do, so it makes sense that it doesnt matter as much to you

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also, i can almost guarantee that your mobile typing speed is way above mine :)

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 7:42 PM

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yea

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 7:42 PM

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unlike the desktop one :)

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 7:43 PM

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but my mobile typing speed isn't that high

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 7:43 PM

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compared to mine? it is most likely leagues beyond

lyric thistle Apr 13, 2020, 7:43 PM

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do you type with your index fingers Naed?

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 7:43 PM

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i mainly use my phone for consumption, it is not as such a productivity device

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Well the google pixel autocorrect screws with me a lot

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I need to get some external keyboard software at some point

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 7:44 PM

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@lyric thistle on my phone?

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because desktop is 10 finger typing always

lyric thistle Apr 13, 2020, 7:46 PM

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yeah on phone :p

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I type very weirdly on a keyboard

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 7:46 PM

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thumb typing on keyboard

lyric thistle Apr 13, 2020, 7:46 PM

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ah

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 7:47 PM

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i dont have that gigantic a phone

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 7:47 PM

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People on mobile can have crazy fast typing times, I'm not one of those people

lyric thistle Apr 13, 2020, 7:47 PM

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I type mostly typee with 5 fingers

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on my left hand: thumb, index, middle
on my right hand: index, middle

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so basically two per hand with spacebar

viral ore Apr 13, 2020, 7:49 PM

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What do u hit shift with?

lyric thistle Apr 13, 2020, 7:49 PM

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oh and pinky for backspace, pinky for shift

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so 7 finger

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 7:50 PM

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huh

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I think my typing is 7 finger too

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left pinky thumb middle finger and index finger, right index, thumb, and middle finger

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I dont like using my right pinky for anything

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I use my right ring finger sometimes for enter but not much else

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 7:52 PM

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i doubt that i could not use all 10

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it has been that heavily ingrained

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 7:52 PM

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tbh I prob use all 10, but I don't notice it much

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like using some fingers from time to time to press enter or smth

lyric thistle Apr 13, 2020, 7:53 PM

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aaaaaah I do use ring finger for the letter a, and q

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 7:53 PM

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wait yea I do too

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 7:53 PM

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that should be your pinky

lyric thistle Apr 13, 2020, 7:53 PM

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but sometimes I don't use ring finger

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I don't practice proper typing discipline :p

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 7:53 PM

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I don't either

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I use whatever finger is closest tbh

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 7:54 PM

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depending on how much typing is in your future, you will either regret that or it wont matter much :)

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Yea... Prob will bite me in the back later

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though my typing is pretty normal other than the outside keys

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(like backspace, , enter, etc.)

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and like tilda

lyric thistle Apr 13, 2020, 7:55 PM

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idunno, I tend to type quite a bit, the way I do it is okay

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maybe not for wpm

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 7:56 PM

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@lyric thistle how old are you now?

lyric thistle Apr 13, 2020, 7:56 PM

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18

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 7:57 PM

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so in another 8-9 years, you will have lived as long as i have been typing

lyric thistle Apr 13, 2020, 7:57 PM

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hehe

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 7:57 PM

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thats the difference :)

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hence the worry/concern about keeping healthy :)

lyric thistle Apr 13, 2020, 8:03 PM

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yeah

sly python Apr 13, 2020, 8:37 PM

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hellow not sureif this is the place google hasnt been to helpful lol, i have a custom built pc, worked fine for about a year, did a format a couple days ago, currently what happens is the pc will randomly Hard freeze, no BSOD, no dump file created, mainly happens while gaming but has happened while just sitting idle, how ever i ran Kombuster over night stress passed 12 hours, ran prime95 cpu 12 hours no issue, ran mem test as well same pass, tested all HDD passed, the only thing im finding in Event logs, is kernel-power (assume me holding down power button to reset pc) and this Kernel-pnp (The driver \Driver\WudfRd failed to load for the device HID\VID_B58E&PID_9E84&MI_03&Col02\7&675493f&0&0001) - The only thing ive yet to try is an M-FLash not sure if it would help

So no ill play a game, and on a fresh boot ill get maybe 3 hours before a freeze, then after that its almost every 30 minutes like clock work,

All drivers are up to date even tried rolling back video drivers

sudden turret Apr 13, 2020, 9:22 PM

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hard drive test?

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could be failing drive

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oh I see

sly python Apr 13, 2020, 9:22 PM

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yea did that passed

sudden turret Apr 13, 2020, 9:22 PM

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I'd try a new drive anyways.

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 9:23 PM

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@sly python sounds like its combined "load" that triggers it

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any chance of a full part list?

sly python Apr 13, 2020, 9:24 PM

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i did discover something odd, so when i run the donut test on kombust, i get an insane coil wine, sure one sec

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 9:24 PM

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no rush :)

sly python Apr 13, 2020, 9:28 PM

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CPU : i9 9900k
Mobo : MSI z390 Pro Gaming Carbon
Mem : 2x 16gb Corsair Vengeance 3200
Video : 2080 ti hydro copper
HD : WD Blue m.2 1tb (swapped out with 2 500gb's i know work)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W Supernovae g2
Cooling : Thermaltake d5 pump (3 360 rads on the loop with xspc cpu waterblock)

Normally i have 6 HD's installed how ever i've disconnected all but the one i've been rotating.

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 9:29 PM

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hm

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running any oc?

sly python Apr 13, 2020, 9:30 PM

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my temps when it freezes are around 40c on cpu and 38c on gpu (msi afterburner open) not atm no just xmp (tried with xmp off as well)

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 9:30 PM

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hm

sly python Apr 13, 2020, 9:30 PM

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just the stock turbo boost its preset to

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 9:30 PM

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you certain your board isnt doing anything "fun" in regards to all core clocks?

sly python Apr 13, 2020, 9:31 PM

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seems to be fine, also reapplies thermal paste. it ran prime95 for 12 hours without a flaw

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thats on a fresh install, prior to gaming the issue arises when i start gaming.

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 9:32 PM

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the problem/challenge/thing-to-remember with any stress test is that all it tells you is that "system is stable while running that specific test"

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this might sound strange, but, what USB devices do you have plugged in?

sly python Apr 13, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Razer Blakcwidow Chroma v2 , Lance head, Nari ultimate and a Blue yeti mic

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nothing is strange at this points 🙂

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 9:36 PM

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any of those USB devices that you didnt have "before" you started having trouble?

sly python Apr 13, 2020, 9:37 PM

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nope been the same the only thing that changed was i formatted.

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how ever.

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 9:37 PM

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hm

sly python Apr 13, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Prior to this format

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 9:38 PM

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brb

sly python Apr 13, 2020, 9:38 PM

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the razer's recent synapse up made the led's on my mobo/fans stop working when i would chroma connect, so i rollled back to an older update

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one suggestion was to uninstall all USB control drivers and reboot i may try and give that a try using remote control from my 2nd pc.

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 9:42 PM

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a different suggestion would be this

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Try and unplug all the usb devices

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and use whatever else you have in the house

sly python Apr 13, 2020, 9:47 PM

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could a bad usb cord / device cause this fault? if so wouldnt the device in question have possible connection issues?

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 9:47 PM

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a bad usb cord could cause all of your woes

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re: connection issues: yes/no

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usb is not necessarily as binary as that

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example: i have a usb fan (that i only keep around because of the following amount of PITA it caused back in the day) that can crash any system it is plugged into

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but the fan itself will work just fine

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so from the outside, everything is okay with the fan, but the way it is wired is just so bonkers that it causes a IO overload that eventually deadlocks any system

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just telling this to give some kind of context of "things can sometimes be really effing weird"

sly python Apr 13, 2020, 9:51 PM

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i can swap all the peripherals from the 2nd pc over and see if the issue still happens.

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yea i get it 🙂

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 9:51 PM

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:)

sly python Apr 13, 2020, 9:51 PM

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can you send me a clone of that fan so i can install it on a buddies pc 🙂

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 9:51 PM

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swapping the peripherals over is the quick test at least :)

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no, that fan is not ever getting out of this flat

sly python Apr 13, 2020, 9:51 PM

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lol

still roostBOT Apr 13, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Naed#3611 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 9:52 PM

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bah!

sly python Apr 13, 2020, 9:52 PM

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haha

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 9:52 PM

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because that "annoying as can be" PITA of a fan caused sooooo much trouble years ago

sullen spoke Apr 13, 2020, 9:55 PM

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naed smh

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 9:55 PM

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~~pita bread~~

sullen spoke Apr 13, 2020, 9:56 PM

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😋

lyric thistle Apr 13, 2020, 9:56 PM

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yummy

sly python Apr 13, 2020, 9:58 PM

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thank for the suggests @foggy hazel im going to swap stuff over and give it a a go

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 9:58 PM

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best of luck @sly python, i think you are sadly going to need it to figure things out :(

sly python Apr 13, 2020, 10:00 PM

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im sure ill figure it out 🙂 as frustrating as it seems i still enjoy trying to solve the issue, but getting outside impute when I'm running out of ideas is always great! or ill just burn it down our of frustration lol 🙂

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 10:00 PM

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:)

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reason i mention luck is that your problem seems like a "nice" random one

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and sometimes, just burning it all is the only sane option

sly python Apr 13, 2020, 10:01 PM

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i wish it would give me a dump file would make it much simpler lol

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 10:01 PM

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oh yes

little osprey Apr 13, 2020, 10:02 PM

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b450 tomahawk

proper ore Apr 13, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Anyone want to help optimize a 750 dollar gaming build? Already have a case and psu

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 10:20 PM

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@proper ore Monitor or no

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And what case and PSU do you have

proper ore Apr 13, 2020, 10:21 PM

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No just the computer

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650 bronze psu and a cooler master tempered glass side panel

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Fits full size atx

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 10:21 PM

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... Good enough I guess

proper ore Apr 13, 2020, 10:22 PM

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It's from another system and trying to save other places to upgrade CPU and GPU

cursive wharf Apr 13, 2020, 10:22 PM

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what PSU model specifically

proper ore Apr 13, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Evga

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I dont have the model number handy

cursive wharf Apr 13, 2020, 10:23 PM

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model =/= brand tho

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as EVGA makes many poor quality PSUs on the cheap end

proper ore Apr 13, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Well let's ignore that for now

cursive wharf Apr 13, 2020, 10:23 PM

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just because it's 650w and is bronze doesnt mean it's good, or even meh

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 10:23 PM

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How much storage do you need

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Also, you don't need the serial number or anything like that, if it says like "G2" on the side, that's all we need to know.

cursive wharf Apr 13, 2020, 10:25 PM

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BR, BQ, N1, W1, G2, P2, etc

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model name basically

proper ore Apr 13, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Yall are persistent, I'm just wanting help on the other components for now to maximize value

cursive wharf Apr 13, 2020, 10:26 PM

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because EVGA does make PSUs so bad that they're dangerous

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lots of companies do

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I mean Thermaltake makes some PSUs so bad that they are literal fire hazards

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EVGA has good and bad PSUs

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so ye

proper ore Apr 13, 2020, 10:27 PM

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I'll take that risk, I used it in a temporary system. For a few months. I'm just looking for help finding good deals on the rest

celest horizon Apr 13, 2020, 10:27 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/

r/buildapcsales

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Hei, what are your thoughts on the XFX Thicc II 5700xt?

celest horizon Apr 13, 2020, 10:27 PM

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celest horizon https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 10:27 PM

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because thats 370$ rn and I can fit it into the budget

cursive wharf Apr 13, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Wasnt it Thicc III or smth that fixed temp issues?

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 10:28 PM

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I'm not sure lol

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I didn't really follow the 5700xt

proper ore Apr 13, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Still having problems with drivers?

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 10:28 PM

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ehh I'll just slap in a 2060 for now

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TTz2Zf

System Builder

cursive wharf Apr 13, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Either way, just cuz you havent had issues yet doesnt mean you will. Case in point, "I havent died yet so therefore I wont die"

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 10:29 PM

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actually

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you could get a rtx2070 non-s in there if you get less storage

proper ore Apr 13, 2020, 10:29 PM

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I mean a 2070 is ideal but I can't find the budget room for it

cursive wharf Apr 13, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Also, save this to your favorites. It helps for 1600AF
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8HqBD3/amd-ryzen-5-1600-12nm-32-ghz-6-core-processor-yd1600bbafbox

AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (12nm) 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 10:30 PM

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fair enough

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doesn't show up usually

proper ore Apr 13, 2020, 10:30 PM

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I was hoping for a 1700 or 1700x

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Or better

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 10:31 PM

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1600af is the same as a 2600

proper ore Apr 13, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Hmmm didn't know that

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 10:31 PM

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1600ae is the original 1600, 1600af is updated

cursive wharf Apr 13, 2020, 10:31 PM

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what storage do you have rn? Can you reuse any of it

proper ore Apr 13, 2020, 10:31 PM

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I have none extra

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 10:31 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BddsPn

System Builder

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Thats if you swap out the a80 for a tcsunbow

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and you can fit in a 2070 non super

proper ore Apr 13, 2020, 10:32 PM

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That's not bad

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 10:32 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N3g2Zf

System Builder

cursive wharf Apr 13, 2020, 10:33 PM

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no Sunbow

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 10:33 PM

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?

cursive wharf Apr 13, 2020, 10:33 PM

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they got them rebrands

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 10:33 PM

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wdym

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afaik it's a good enough ssd

cursive wharf Apr 13, 2020, 10:33 PM

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When you buy a Sunbow you'll most likely get a crumby rebrand one

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 10:33 PM

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ah

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lemme see if I could find anything else at that like 40$ range lol

cursive wharf Apr 13, 2020, 10:34 PM

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The specs are also all over the place. 480gb is like 300 r/w

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Huh, might have to go with a 128gb drive at that price...

cursive wharf Apr 13, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Also is there going to be any streaming/recording going on? If not then 5700XT
@proper ore

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 10:36 PM

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I think lower end 5700xt all got some thermal problems but idk

simple stag Apr 13, 2020, 10:37 PM

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is a 2060 worth the extra 100 over a 1660 super

proper ore Apr 13, 2020, 10:37 PM

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No just gaming

cursive wharf Apr 13, 2020, 10:37 PM

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nothing major in terms of thermal issues.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y2jtHB

System Builder

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 10:38 PM

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oh god not that ram

cursive wharf Apr 13, 2020, 10:38 PM

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@simple stag depends on use case. Generally the 5700 is a better deal unless needing to stream/record

proper ore Apr 13, 2020, 10:38 PM

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No overclocking will be going on

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 10:39 PM

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I think they fixed most of the 5700xt driver issues

simple stag Apr 13, 2020, 10:39 PM

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no plans on streaming at the moment

cursive wharf Apr 13, 2020, 10:39 PM

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@stoic island did you see if it was a widespread issue or just you were unlucky

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for RAM

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 10:39 PM

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No

simple stag Apr 13, 2020, 10:39 PM

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i just want to spend 1000 total for a gaming beast

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 10:39 PM

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but I don't really care at this point

simple stag Apr 13, 2020, 10:39 PM

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and preferably want the ryzen 3600

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though ive seen many ppl suggesting 1600af and just put that extra money towards GPU

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but i would like faster processor bc i run sneaker bots

cursive wharf Apr 13, 2020, 10:40 PM

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It isnt much for proof, but going into the comments for that kit the two people who left a reply didnt have issues and where AMD users

simple stag Apr 13, 2020, 10:40 PM

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so that extra multithreading performance can do me alot of good

lyric thistle Apr 13, 2020, 10:42 PM

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I want the 1600

cursive wharf Apr 13, 2020, 10:43 PM

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just have the bots run on the older machine

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Well

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The amazon reviews are screwed up because they grouped a bunch of team ram together

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and theres 3 people who had DOA sticks of ram on newegg

cursive wharf Apr 13, 2020, 10:44 PM

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talking about pcpp review

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didnt bother with amazon/newegg ones

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Well I left an okay pcpp review and I had problems afterwards

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I don't see anywhere that I can change my review :p

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ima grab the ram and do memtest later

simple stag Apr 13, 2020, 10:47 PM

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i dont have older machine @cursive wharf

lyric thistle Apr 13, 2020, 10:47 PM

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get older machine

simple stag Apr 13, 2020, 10:47 PM

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i just want something powerful and upgradeable - i think 3600 gives me good wiggle room with that

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lol

little osprey Apr 13, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Is anyone in here willing and able to help a computer retarded person with buying upgrades

crimson whale Apr 13, 2020, 11:03 PM

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📎 20200413_180205.jpg

lyric thistle Apr 13, 2020, 11:05 PM

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elegant hand

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 11:40 PM

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@stoic island something to keep in mind: any singular review is just that, a singular review

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and as we have talked about before. This is mass manufactured parts

little osprey Apr 13, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Can anyone help me with upgrading an MSI desktop computer?

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 11:43 PM

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if you post a model, we at least can have a look at things

little osprey Apr 13, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Where do I find that?

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Im computer stupid

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 11:44 PM

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there are no stupid questions, only silly answers

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you still got the receipt for the machine?

little osprey Apr 13, 2020, 11:45 PM

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No its a little over a year or so old and I have trashed the box

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 11:45 PM

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no email confirmation on the order?

little osprey Apr 13, 2020, 11:45 PM

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I bought it from best buy off the shelf

lyric thistle Apr 13, 2020, 11:45 PM

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are there stickers on the side of the machine?

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there might be one with model number info

little osprey Apr 13, 2020, 11:46 PM

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ok let me look\

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 11:46 PM

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either on the bottom of the machine or the back of it, there should be a sticker with some info

lyric thistle Apr 13, 2020, 11:46 PM

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mine has it on the right side

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Yea I understand

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But I take personal experience seriously

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 11:47 PM

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aye, just keep what i said in mind.

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context is important :)

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 11:48 PM

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I mean, it is a singular review, but me expressing my experience here IS my singular review, is it not?

little osprey Apr 13, 2020, 11:48 PM

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CyberpowerPC Model: C series

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that it?

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or do I need another sticker

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 11:49 PM

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@stoic island it is, and as a singular point of context, it is valid.

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@little osprey that is a start

little osprey Apr 13, 2020, 11:49 PM

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do you need the numbers about the bar code?

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 11:49 PM

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That's why I discourage people from the exact model that I had issues with, though others could chip in their experience

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 11:50 PM

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@little osprey nah. The machine still works right?

lyric thistle Apr 13, 2020, 11:50 PM

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look for a model #

little osprey Apr 13, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Yes, It works fine I want to upgrade it for better game graphics

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ok let me look

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 11:52 PM

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What components exactly are in the PC rn?

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 11:52 PM

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@stoic island we will get to that part in a bit :)

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 11:53 PM

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Fair.

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I'm assuming it's one of these
https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/page/syber/syber-c/

Syber-C SERIES - Mid tower gaming PC in small chassis

Best High Performance Gaming PC - Specialize in Gaming Computers and Custom PC. Award Winning Custom Built Desktops and Gaming Laptops for over 14 years.

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 11:53 PM

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thats one of the newer versions

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Oh?

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 11:54 PM

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there is also older versions of the C series

little osprey Apr 13, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Operating System: Windows 10 Home (64-bit Edition)
Work From Home Featured Promotions: None
Gaming Chassis: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv mini-iTX Gaming Case Black w/ Tempered Glass Window
Laser Engraving: None
CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i3-9100F 3.60GHz 6MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1151 [w/o Integrated Graphic] (Coffee Lake)
Intel Performance Tuning Protection Plan: None
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: No Overclocking
CPU / Processor Cooling Fan: CyberPowerPC Asetek 550LC 120mm Liquid Cooling CPU Cooler (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
Motherboard: ASRock Z390M ITX/ac w/ 802.11ac Wi-Fi, USB 3.1, 1PCIe x16, 6 SATA3, 1 M.2 SATA/PCIe
RAM / System Memory: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/3000MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Vengeance)
Video Card: AMD Radeon RX 560 2GB GDDR5 Video Card (Single Card)
Freebie of Video Card: None
Power Supply: 600 Watts - Standard 600Watts 80 Plus Gold high-efficient Power Supply
Primary Hard Drive: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
Secondary Hard Drive: None
External Storage: None
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
Monitor: None
Cables: None
Speakers: None
Internal Network Card: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Keyboard: CyberPowerPC Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: CyberPowerPC Standard 4000 DPI with Weight System Optical Gaming Mouse
Mouse Pad: None
Headset: None
Microphone: None
Gaming Apparel: None
Gaming Gear: None
Internal USB Expansion Module: None
Wireless Routers/Hubs: None
Video Camera: None
Power & Surge Protection: None
External Accessories: None
Operating System: Windows 10 Home (64-bit Edition)
Professional Wiring: None
Ultra Care Option: None

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 11:54 PM

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am2 socket etc

little osprey Apr 13, 2020, 11:54 PM

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there you go

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 11:55 PM

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Naed, I think it's actually the thing I linked

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 11:55 PM

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aye, could be

stoic island Apr 13, 2020, 11:55 PM

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In the customization part for that one, there are options for 9100f and rx560

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 11:56 PM

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however, assumptions etc etc

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@little osprey where did you get the info you posted here?

little osprey Apr 13, 2020, 11:56 PM

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off the website, I found the one that looked the most like what I pulled up and I typed in about in my search bar

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00325-80198-49352-AAOEM

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Is my product ID

foggy hazel Apr 13, 2020, 11:58 PM

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yes, but the ID you just posted is only useful for CyberpowerPC in their internal systems

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you know how to unzip files?

little osprey Apr 13, 2020, 11:59 PM

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where do I find em

lyric thistle Apr 14, 2020, 12:00 AM

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well, check task manager to get some basic spec info

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 12:00 AM

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not quite what i am asking you :)

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@lyric thistle skipping straight to as much info as we can is simpler

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 12:00 AM

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Yes I can unzip files like mods if your asking

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 12:00 AM

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https://www.cpuid.com/downloads/cpu-z/cpu-z_1.91-en.zip

DOWNLOADING CPU-Z_1.91-EN.ZIP | CPUID

System information software

lyric thistle Apr 14, 2020, 12:00 AM

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tru

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 12:00 AM

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please download that, and run it

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specifically, the "cpuz_x64.exe" file in that zip

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Ok done I have a little box of number and letters now

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 12:03 AM

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there is a "tools" button

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click that, and select "save report as .TXT" option

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 12:04 AM

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done

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 12:04 AM

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now, please send that to me in a DM

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i have received the file

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give me a couple of minutes to look over it

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Ok

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 12:05 AM

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@stoic island remember what i said about assumptions?

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Yep

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 12:06 AM

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its a amd system

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not an intel one

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Fair enough

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Building guns are easier then trying to upgrade my computer

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 12:07 AM

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just a question of experience

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 12:07 AM

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fair enough

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 12:09 AM

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What would you like to upgrade in the machine?

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what is your goal?

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 12:09 AM

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I want to play New World, the Isle, and Conqueror's Blade on Ultra graphics

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I have a budget of about 1200-1800 bucks for upgrades

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 12:10 AM

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usd?

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Yup

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 12:10 AM

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for "just" the machine itself?

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or are we talking monitor too?

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 12:10 AM

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I like my monitor I have at the moment

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Or you can say other wise and I will trust you

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 12:12 AM

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if you like what you have, there is no need to change it

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let me just keep reading the txt file for a bit

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 12:12 AM

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ok

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 12:15 AM

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okay, so

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these are the base components

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AMD Ryzen 5 1600

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B350M BAZOOKA

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WDC WD10EZEX-08WN4A0

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XFX Radeon RX 580 (4gig)

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Monitor: XF251Q (1920 * 1080 @ 60hz)

lyric thistle Apr 14, 2020, 12:17 AM

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not bad 👀

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 12:17 AM

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1 single stick of ram

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8 gig @ 2400

lyric thistle Apr 14, 2020, 12:17 AM

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oh that;'s oof

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that's very oof :(

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 12:18 AM

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Any idea on PSU?

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 12:18 AM

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@little osprey could you open up the case and see if the PSU says something about model on the side?

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 12:18 AM

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where do I look

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 12:18 AM

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heck, just grab a photo of it if you can

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following is an example

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https://www.komplett.dk/img/p/800/986249_1.jpg

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that is the fairly basic form/shape/design of a normal psu

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what we are curious about, it whatever it says on the side (like the one above says Corsair rm 750x)

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yours should have some kind of sticker that says "something"

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 12:30 AM

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ends up being nameless grey OEM

lyric thistle Apr 14, 2020, 12:30 AM

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RIP

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 12:30 AM

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it is entirely possible

lyric thistle Apr 14, 2020, 12:30 AM

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FSP makes good PSUs right?

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 12:31 AM

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they can make good psus

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 12:31 AM

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some of them are alright iirc

lyric thistle Apr 14, 2020, 12:34 AM

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mine is very basic, with only the board and CPU power, and it's 280 watts

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 12:37 AM

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and the following is the current system (at least the info i have so far)

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V4szGc

System Builder

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 12:54 AM

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@cursive wharf https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YzZsPn <- as an upgrade to the previous one

System Builder

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and yes, psu is something he is still digging around for info about

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 12:56 AM

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def want to start saving up for a better monitor after this upgrade

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only other maybe thing is if case sidepanel is clear then may want some black/grey RAM for better looks. Should be like $3 more

lyric thistle Apr 14, 2020, 12:57 AM

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they have a single stick of RAM, so that's something that will need to be done

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 12:58 AM

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@stoic island look at the list.

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 12:59 AM

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maybe 240gb SATA SSD and 5700XT for more money on a 1440p monitor?

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 1:01 AM

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@lyric thistle look at the list

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@stoic island sorry for the earlier mention

lyric thistle Apr 14, 2020, 1:02 AM

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ah the Team memory?

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 1:03 AM

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yes, which is a 2 * 8 kit

lyric thistle Apr 14, 2020, 1:04 AM

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is that what they have in their system?

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 1:06 AM

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@lyric thistle please read the above comments after each pcpp link :)

lyric thistle Apr 14, 2020, 1:07 AM

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ok I see

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 1:10 AM

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so, a psu needs to be added too

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because the current one, only has a single 8pin

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no extra anything pci-e related

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Ok

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 1:11 AM

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so

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the long story short is this:

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the CPU is okay

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the mainboard is okay-ish

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the case is fine

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IF you upgrade the parts in the following list
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8gC3jp

System Builder

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you will end up with what is actually a fairly decent system

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and from what i can see, way above the spec requirements for the games you mentioned earlier

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 1:13 AM

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Wow that's pretty cheap

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 1:14 AM

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you are skipping out on a bunch of parts, so that helps

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however

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here is the downside

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 1:14 AM

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I can go up 1800 us

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 1:15 AM

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you will need to learn how to assemble a pc

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 1:15 AM

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Agreed

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 1:15 AM

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or have someone come around and do it for you

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either or

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because it is going to be a bit of a chore to get the old PSU out of that case

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 1:16 AM

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Very well

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 1:17 AM

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it isnt impossible for you to learn, it will just take some time

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and again, i strongly prefer to have you as informed as you can be

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 1:18 AM

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I know a guy who use to teach highschool students how to build pcs

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 1:19 AM

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fair

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with those things said.

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any other questions?

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Yea you have a tip jar?

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 1:20 AM

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nah :)

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Damn cause you deserve it

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 1:21 AM

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thank you for the sentiment

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 1:26 AM

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One question why not 2 sticks of 16 gig ram?

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 1:29 AM

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you could

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nothing prevents it

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i grabbed 2 * 8gig, because it would be a doubling of what you have currently

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and you didnt specifically mention lack of ram as a reason to upgrade

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Fair enough

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 1:32 AM

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the main improvement in "feel" will come from the SSD

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secondary improvement will come from having the ram running in dual channel mode

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Ok

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 1:33 AM

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mind, that is just on the "feel" of things

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the "grunt/power" for the games will come from the 2070 Super

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 1:33 AM

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I noticed that is going to a massive upgrade for me

foggy hazel Apr 14, 2020, 1:33 AM

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aye

spice mauve Apr 14, 2020, 2:22 AM

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whats the best price-to-performance 120/140mm aio in an sff build? i was thinking the Corsair h60 or Silverstone PF120 (i know that high-end air is better, but SFF)

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 2:30 AM

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what case is it?

spice mauve Apr 14, 2020, 2:33 AM

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SS Sg13p
Fractal Node 304

Dan Case a4
Dr Zaber Sentry
ghost s1
(i know that air will fit in them, especially the top 2, but I heard somewhere that the AIO would be slightly better)

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depends on budget at time

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 2:34 AM

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but which one do you think your gonna buy?

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where would you mount an aio in the first case

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wait nvm

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i clicked the wrong link without realizing it

spice mauve Apr 14, 2020, 2:37 AM

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front
I already have the Node and i want the Silverstone, but if the budget allows at the time, I'll getone in the latter list @viral ore

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 2:37 AM

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oh, ok

spice mauve Apr 14, 2020, 2:39 AM

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sorry not sure if this was clear but this is for 2 builds
1 3700x and the other 3700x (the 3700x will be mine, the rgb would be cool too)

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 2:39 AM

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any 120mm aio should do fine, there is no real performance difference between them

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aside from obvious quality differences

spice mauve Apr 14, 2020, 2:40 AM

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ok thanks

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 2:41 AM

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the corsair H60 should be fine

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managing the tube in that case might be a challenge

severe chasm Apr 14, 2020, 2:46 AM

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is it worth upgrading from a 1070ti to a 2070 super?

tepid basalt Apr 14, 2020, 2:56 AM

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yes

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supah powah

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a spare usb

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 5:24 AM

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b450 tomahawk

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 5:44 AM

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Hello. I am looking to purchase basic desktop (non gaming) but has enough power to play videos, good graphic. I have an existing PC pretty old and I have been trying to add another monitor (extension). So, I bought a new graphic card - PCI. After installation, I realized my PC doesn't support dual graphic card. It already has an existing integrated graphic card. So, it only allows me to choose one. One other reason also, the current PC is small (slim), I had to install the graphic card aggressively in order to make it fit. Having said that, the experience leads me to just purchase a new one. Any recommendation?

lime forge Apr 14, 2020, 5:45 AM

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what do you use your PC for? anything besides playing videos?

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 5:47 AM

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Usually netflix, surfing, the everyday internet activities or even school - non gaming but I would like to get a good semi performance esp the video and graphic.

lime forge Apr 14, 2020, 5:47 AM

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alright

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and the budget?

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 5:48 AM

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well the current i bought from amazon was 150.00 (dont laugh) s0 maybe around that

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just trying to mee the basic.

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I can go up to 300 or less.

lime forge Apr 14, 2020, 5:51 AM

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hmmm

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maybe this? https://www.newegg.com/dell-optiplex-790/p/1VK-0001-53XV4

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plus a new GPU

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maybe this for the new GPU

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https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-gt-1030-gt-1030-2gh-lp-oc/p/N82E16814137140?&quicklink=true

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that has one HDMI and one DisplayPort so you could use both of your monitors

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plus its passive cooling, so it will be nice and quiet

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Does the motherboard support dual GPU?

lime forge Apr 14, 2020, 5:54 AM

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why would you need two?

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 5:54 AM

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sorry to ask, thats what im expericing right now

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so the GPU can add one or more monitor then

lime forge Apr 14, 2020, 5:54 AM

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ah, you wouldnt need two GPUs for multiple monitors

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that graphics card has 2 video ports right on it

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could you possibly send a picture of the inside of your current PC? an upgrade might not be necessary

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also whats the GPU that you put in your current PC?

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 5:56 AM

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The current PC has integrated

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the card works

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so I added and bought MSI Gaming GeForce GT 710

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it works but the PC allows only one video card

lime forge Apr 14, 2020, 5:57 AM

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by integrated do you mean theres another card in a different PCI slot?

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 5:57 AM

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and it is stimm

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Dell Desktop PC 780 C2D E8400 3.0GHz, 8G DDR3, 1TB, DVD, W

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thats the current PC spec

lime forge Apr 14, 2020, 5:58 AM

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look like this?

📎 unknown.png

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Yeo

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ugly as hell

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but basic for me thats good enough lol

lime forge Apr 14, 2020, 6:01 AM

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yeah

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does the Graphics Card you installed stick out here?

📎 unknown.png

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 6:03 AM

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yeo

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yep.

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Challenging.

lime forge Apr 14, 2020, 6:03 AM

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you should not be having any issues with using dual monitors

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just plug both of them into the GT710 you installed

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you might have to disable the integrated graphics in the BIOS, which we can help you with

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Okay. I will try again.

lime forge Apr 14, 2020, 6:06 AM

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let me know how it goes

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🙂

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 6:06 AM

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say if i decide to buy the opti 790 you mentioned earlier

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does it support GT710?

lime forge Apr 14, 2020, 6:09 AM

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It should work.

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I cannot answer with 100% certainty, but im about 95% sure it will

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based on other people's success with it

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https://www.dell.com/community/Optiplex-Desktops/Please-help-me-it-s-about-graphics-cards/td-p/6242503

Please help me, it's about graphics cards.

Please help me. Would a EVGA GeForce GT710 low profile work in a dell optiplex 790 DT with it's normal psu? Please let me know. And like a tutorial if it would fit. Thank you for your time! Link: https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/VGAEVG2713/EVGA-GeForce-GT710-Graphics-Card-2G...

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 6:09 AM

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ohokay

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thanks!

lime forge Apr 14, 2020, 6:13 AM

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no problem

lyric thistle Apr 14, 2020, 6:14 AM

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Some laptops have a function where the CPU integrated graphics is used to render lightweight things such as desktop, browser, video, some apps, while a discrete GPU is switched to for heavy rendering tasks like 3D games and 3D rendering software

lime forge Apr 14, 2020, 6:14 AM

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its a pain in the butt.

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lol

lyric thistle Apr 14, 2020, 6:14 AM

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Somebody on here had it on their MSI laptop, and it's not ideal, but it works

lime forge Apr 14, 2020, 6:14 AM

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it works

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but for example

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minecraft kept using the integrated graphics

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had to tell it to use the discrete gpu

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also its a nightmare for VR headsets, simply because it does not work.

lyric thistle Apr 14, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Oof

lime forge Apr 14, 2020, 6:15 AM

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yep.

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you can imagine how disappointed i was when i got my rift and it didnt work

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:(

lyric thistle Apr 14, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Aw man

lime forge Apr 14, 2020, 6:15 AM

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its ok tho... i got big pc now and rift s...

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lol

lyric thistle Apr 14, 2020, 6:18 AM

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So it's not ideal to have an integrated+discrete setup, and integrated can happily be disabled for the lifetime of its parent CPU and the discrete GPU will handle graphics rendering on its own

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Just thought I should say that :>

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 6:30 AM

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Thanks everyone for the help. Be safe and take care.

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Have a good night!

tepid basalt Apr 14, 2020, 6:30 AM

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well yes and no?

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suppose on a nice day, your discreet gpu says goodbye to life

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at least you have that tiny cute igpu to boot up windows

lyric thistle Apr 14, 2020, 6:36 AM

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Yeah

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Not necessary for that though, you could just buy another 10 dollar GPU for that case

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Of course, a low price GPU would probably be used and well into its life, so not a good reliable backup necessarily

tepid basalt Apr 14, 2020, 6:38 AM

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still prefer igpu because building a pc without it is rather inconvenient

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like I can buy everything except for the gpu

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wait until there's a nice deal because with a gaming pc, gpu is probably the most pricey

lyric thistle Apr 14, 2020, 6:39 AM

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Tru

tepid basalt Apr 14, 2020, 6:39 AM

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in the meantime, I still have a fully functional pc to play with

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really, a intel hd 630 can play minecraft nice and smooth

lyric thistle Apr 14, 2020, 6:40 AM

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Still applies to a cheapo GPU tho

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HD 5570 is decent for Minecraft, about 15 USD at minimum from eBay it looks like

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Used to play it on Phenom II X4 955, HD 5570 computer

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No igpu on hand with that one, if I upgrade it to a better GPU I can set the 5570 aside or in a weaker computer...at the end of the day it doesn't matter too much, both ways will get you a working display in emergencies

icy patrol Apr 14, 2020, 7:21 AM

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Is anyone willing to help this tech illiterate veteran out with a budget build?

warped moat Apr 14, 2020, 7:24 AM

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What’s the budget first of all

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:29 AM

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whats the budget?

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1600 1650

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8 gb ram in two 4 gig sticks

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:30 AM

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place of location, budget, use case, what is required (just PC, need monitor, etc)

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:30 AM

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400 watt powersupply

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:30 AM

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he said 450-500

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is that USD?

icy patrol Apr 14, 2020, 7:30 AM

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Everything is required

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:30 AM

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I would highly recommend used then

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:30 AM

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yes

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but dont buy the psu used

icy patrol Apr 14, 2020, 7:31 AM

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My buddy told me to try Newegg and then I was directed here

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:31 AM

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trying to fit everything in a $500 budget new is quite hard

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without it being utter trash

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:31 AM

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yes

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that

icy patrol Apr 14, 2020, 7:31 AM

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I'm just trying to play Escape From Tarkov

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:31 AM

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you could buy just a pc for that price

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:32 AM

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eh

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not really something to play eft

icy patrol Apr 14, 2020, 7:32 AM

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I was told that a prebuilt would not run it very well.

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:32 AM

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1600 and 1650 would play it pretty well

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:32 AM

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his best option gpu wise is a used RX 580 8gb

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:32 AM

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no, a new $350 prebuilt + $100 monitor + $50 everything else would be... bad

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:32 AM

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awful

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:33 AM

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is escape from tarkov on console?

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:33 AM

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at this price point it might be better for used laptop

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considering you need everything

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while keeping it simple

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:33 AM

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yes that

icy patrol Apr 14, 2020, 7:33 AM

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PhatRAT I am truly sorry that someone upset you in the other chat before I joined.

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:33 AM

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and then a mouse

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:33 AM

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you can get good used laptops

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:34 AM

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do play eft with a trackpad

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utter suicide

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:34 AM

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ew

icy patrol Apr 14, 2020, 7:34 AM

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Any recommendations on the laptop then?

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:34 AM

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I suggest a pc with a 1650 or a 1050 ti used

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:34 AM

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depends on what you can find for a laptop used in your area

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like craigslist

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or mercari

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:35 AM

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idk about 1650, but 1050 laptops should be close in range I think

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:35 AM

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but look for that as a minimum

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:35 AM

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for average deal

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:35 AM

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1650 or 1050 ti minimum

icy patrol Apr 14, 2020, 7:35 AM

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Ok

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:35 AM

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I mean, if staying plugged in can do maxwell cards

icy patrol Apr 14, 2020, 7:35 AM

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Sorry jotting this down as fast as I can.

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:35 AM

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970m and such

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:35 AM

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nah

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dont buy a used laptop from before 2016

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thats a bad choice

icy patrol Apr 14, 2020, 7:36 AM

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Ok

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:36 AM

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you'd find better deals, and perf would be the same

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:36 AM

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the 970m is very old

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:36 AM

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a 780Ti is old

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:36 AM

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yeah?

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:36 AM

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yet is 1050 - 1060 levels

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:36 AM

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its about as good as a gt 1030

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:36 AM

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780ti is still decent tho

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:36 AM

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780 ti = gt 1030

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:36 AM

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for like 80

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not at all

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780ti is like a 1060

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:37 AM

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bit worse cuz architecture for rasterization

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:37 AM

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thats tru

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:37 AM

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yes

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:37 AM

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raw compute is 1060

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:37 AM

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that was what i was basing on

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average fps in game

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:37 AM

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but rasterization is 1050 - 1060

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:37 AM

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similar to the 1030

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sure

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for modeling

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:37 AM

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1030 is alot worse than u think

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its not even pascal

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:38 AM

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i own it for a ps3 emulator

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its pretty good

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:38 AM

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@little osprey bit above 1050 as stated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yib0zGMLDrU&t=498s

YouTube

Testing Games

GTX 1050 Ti vs GTX 780 Ti Test in 6 Games (i5 7600k)

Games:
Grand Theft Auto V
Battlefield 1 - 01:59
Project Cars - 03:28
Fallout 4 - 05:04
The Witcher 3 - 06:58
Far Cry Prima - 09:07

System:
Windows 10
Intel i5 7600k 4.5Ghz
Asus GTX 1050 Ti 4Gb 1379/7008 Mhz
Asus GTX 780 T...

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lyric thistle Apr 14, 2020, 7:38 AM

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GT 730

icy patrol Apr 14, 2020, 7:38 AM

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Any suggestions on the laptop I should be looking at?

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:38 AM

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yes

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look for 1050 ti in the title

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or 1060

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or 1650

icy patrol Apr 14, 2020, 7:39 AM

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1050 or 1060ti ok

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:39 AM

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any of those three

icy patrol Apr 14, 2020, 7:39 AM

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Ok

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:39 AM

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just look on craigslist for laptops under 500

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:39 AM

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no dont do that

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people will try to scam you

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:39 AM

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there are plenty of good laptops that dont use those cards

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:39 AM

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if worst comes to worst remeber

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this is important

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:39 AM

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970m, 980m, 1050 4gb, 1050ti, 1650

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:39 AM

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press ctrl + alt + delete

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:39 AM

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R9 390m

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:39 AM

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ignore the first two if you care about battery life

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:39 AM

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click more details

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and click on perfomance

icy patrol Apr 14, 2020, 7:39 AM

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Last time I got something off of craigslist I got into a fight because the guy tried to RIP me off.

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:39 AM

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scroll down to gpu

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and it will tell you what gpu is in the laptop

icy patrol Apr 14, 2020, 7:40 AM

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Ok

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:40 AM

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craigslist varies, because your dealing with people, not the site itself

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:40 AM

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lots of fun people, and lots of "fun" people

icy patrol Apr 14, 2020, 7:40 AM

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Thank you for the input Sassy

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:40 AM

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ive met really nice people

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:40 AM

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read what i wrote

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:41 AM

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it really does vary lol

icy patrol Apr 14, 2020, 7:41 AM

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I have been PhatRAT

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:41 AM

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you can call me Mr PhatRAT

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:41 AM

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no

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:41 AM

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thats Mrs. phatrat

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:41 AM

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but Lenny works as well

lyric thistle Apr 14, 2020, 7:41 AM

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Instructions unclear Intel Atom paired with 2080Ti

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:41 AM

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lol

icy patrol Apr 14, 2020, 7:41 AM

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If your older than me not a problem lol.

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:42 AM

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How old are you?

icy patrol Apr 14, 2020, 7:42 AM

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37

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:42 AM

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decades

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:42 AM

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im 16 lol

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:42 AM

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im 18

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pog

icy patrol Apr 14, 2020, 7:42 AM

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There you go then lol.

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:42 AM

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pov

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poverty

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:42 AM

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Mr. Draziled

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lmao

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:42 AM

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i walked into south central in vr

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pov

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poverty

lyric thistle Apr 14, 2020, 7:43 AM

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Poverty

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:43 AM

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Im 18.956 years old

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yes, the decimals

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:43 AM

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Im 16 and 358 days old

icy patrol Apr 14, 2020, 7:43 AM

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Hell I have kids older than y'all.

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:43 AM

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damb

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:43 AM

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I have kids

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:43 AM

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no u dont

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:43 AM

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I call my rats my kids

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:43 AM

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mmhmm

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:44 AM

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welp, you'd have to have been underage then

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:44 AM

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and my guinea pigs are my mistresses

icy patrol Apr 14, 2020, 7:44 AM

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My triplets were born when I was 17

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:44 AM

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damn

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a lot of pressure

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 7:44 AM

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sounds like a rough school life

icy patrol Apr 14, 2020, 7:44 AM

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You have no idea.

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That's why I want into the military.

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But back to the subject at hand, any of those aforementioned laptops will run Escape From Tarkov just fine?

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 7:46 AM

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better than any desktop you can get at that price

icy patrol Apr 14, 2020, 7:46 AM

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Ok thank all of you for you help.

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I will start checking into these asap. Have a good night all of you.

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 7:47 AM

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The price is 500 max?

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 8:05 AM

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any tips for beginner pc builders?

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 8:06 AM

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yes

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 8:06 AM

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im about to build my first ever pc and i justfwant to know some tips and tricks

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 8:06 AM

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watch a lot of linus tech tips

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 8:06 AM

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dont overtighten screws

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 8:06 AM

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okay ill try that one

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which ones in particular

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mobo?

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or cpu

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 8:07 AM

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test fit the I/O shield over the rear io ports

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before installing it in the case

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 8:07 AM

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what?

subtle halo Apr 14, 2020, 8:07 AM

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dont be scared to push i/o shield

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 8:07 AM

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all the screws

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if you turn it with a screwdriver, dont turn it too much

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 8:08 AM

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so about when shouod i stop

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when i can feel it really threading on?

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like its about to snap

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 8:09 AM

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it will get exponentially harder to rotate as you turn it

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right near the end

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 8:09 AM

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ah

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gotchia, as long as it holds it in place

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and its tight enough

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 8:09 AM

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so once it hits that point, give it a firm half a rotation and leave it

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 8:09 AM

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k

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 8:10 AM

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its kinda hard to explain, but you will get better at feeling it the more you do

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 8:10 AM

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what happen if i turn it too much?

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 8:10 AM

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you risk stripping the threading, and putting unnecessary pressure on the pcb

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 8:10 AM

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o

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ok ill be careful

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i also bought a new keyboard

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 8:11 AM

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its not a terrible thing, but its annoying when u accidentally strip a screw

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ooo nice

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 8:11 AM

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📎 IMG_20200412_235214.jpg

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can u guess the price

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its mechanical blue switches equivalent

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i got a good deal on it

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im expecting to play Minecraft on my pc

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i hope it runs well

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 8:12 AM

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it should run fine

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 8:13 AM

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no im saying I hope the pc runs it good

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 8:13 AM

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yep

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 8:13 AM

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how do u know my pc

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 8:14 AM

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minecraft doesnt take much to run

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and i assume you bought new parts

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 8:14 AM

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yep

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all new

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 8:14 AM

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and the only things you can buy new are modern things

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and minecraft is from 2009

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 8:15 AM

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i got a ryzen 3 3200g with 16gb 3000mhz ram

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 8:15 AM

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nice

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 8:15 AM

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for a good deal

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main reason i got it

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i hope it gets the job done

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im also going to play a little rovket league

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idk i hope all goes well

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🤞

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 8:19 AM

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hey guys

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what does the girraffe thing mean?

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@misty spindle

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 8:20 AM

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its linus on a giraffe body

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 8:21 AM

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cool

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but why?

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 8:22 AM

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bc i can

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 8:23 AM

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nobody loves giraffe linus

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 8:23 AM

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yes they do

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 8:23 AM

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yes they do
@misty spindle

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 8:23 AM

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they do

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 8:23 AM

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ok one person

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 8:23 AM

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i know a lot

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no not one

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everyone love giraffe linus

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i made myself

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 8:25 AM

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i like it

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 8:25 AM

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see

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 8:25 AM

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I like it

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but i lied to myself so much that im in the closet about liking giraffe linus

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and now i need to come out to my parents

tepid basalt Apr 14, 2020, 8:51 AM

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why ppl love blues

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 8:53 AM

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the genre?

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the color?

subtle halo Apr 14, 2020, 9:07 AM

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because its a warm colour

tepid basalt Apr 14, 2020, 9:25 AM

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i mean blue switchc

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dem typoss

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dem

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 9:41 AM

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because clicking blue switches feels like flipping an old metal switch

latent storm Apr 14, 2020, 12:34 PM

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hey @misty spindle i require that picture

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and @subtle halo blue isn’t warm...

subtle halo Apr 14, 2020, 12:36 PM

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what is it

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cool?

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theres warm blues also xD

foggy bough Apr 14, 2020, 2:25 PM

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guys should i get the gtx 1660 s over the rx 580 for 80 euros more in order to get 20 fps more,better cooling,50 watts less and better drivers, reliability and less bottleneck cause i will get the r5 2600 and its a 30% bottleneck with the rx 580 but with 1660s its 0,5%

humble rivet Apr 14, 2020, 2:36 PM

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My power led on my case is always flickering is there anything I can do that doesn't require unbuilding the pc

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 3:08 PM

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@humble rivet check your front io connectors on the mobo

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esp the block of stuff for power

humble rivet Apr 14, 2020, 3:09 PM

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My case came with all of them in one big block

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 3:09 PM

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📎 iu.png

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check that then

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make sure its plugged in right

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Side note, PBO is boosting my CPU to 4.45ghz but at like 1.42v :p

humble rivet Apr 14, 2020, 3:12 PM

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So what exactly am I checking

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 3:13 PM

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just see if it's completely plugged in

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because it should be plugged in correctly since its just a bloc

humble rivet Apr 14, 2020, 3:15 PM

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It's completely plugged in but it only starts blinking once I've about gotten to the lock screen

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 3:16 PM

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weird

humble rivet Apr 14, 2020, 3:20 PM

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What about these cables? Is there a way I can keep them together to make them look better?

📎 IMG_20200414_111910878.jpg

simple stag Apr 14, 2020, 3:27 PM

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im torn guys

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doing my first build. I am 99% sold on getting the R5 3600. All i have left to decide on is the GPU. I am stuck between getting a lower tier card like the 1660 super/5600xt and getting better card when they release later this year or go all out and get something like a 5700xt/2070 and use that for a couple years

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 3:39 PM

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You could go in the middle of both and get a 5700

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Flash the bios to xt performance and if your not happy with it by Q4 then sell it and get a new one

simple stag Apr 14, 2020, 3:40 PM

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how hard is it to flash bios

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i am pretty good with technology but like i said i am a noob to the custom stuff @buoyant flame

wispy remnant Apr 14, 2020, 3:41 PM

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@foggy bough I think you answered your own question lol

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Not that bad @simple stag

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Besides even if you didn't it would still dump on your ps4 😉

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 3:42 PM

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eh

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I'm gonna try to flash my vbios on my 2070 later for OCing

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but

simple stag Apr 14, 2020, 3:43 PM

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hahah true

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i love my PS4 but i understand its limitations and new job has given me extra capital for a nice PC

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so here i am

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 3:43 PM

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And we welcome you 😊

simple stag Apr 14, 2020, 3:43 PM

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with 5700 and xt i have heard there are heat issues

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is this mostly groupthink BS?

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 3:43 PM

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Depends on the card

simple stag Apr 14, 2020, 3:44 PM

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any recs on model/brand?

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 3:44 PM

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There are cards with poor cooling solutions

simple stag Apr 14, 2020, 3:44 PM

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seems like MSI is a good choice

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 3:44 PM

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I mean ya msi, asus, gigabyte are all good usually. If you find one you like send it over and get the seal of approval😂

simple stag Apr 14, 2020, 3:46 PM

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sounds good, will do

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and a 5700 (non XT) would be able to handle any game at high settings?

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 3:46 PM

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MSI is generally meh

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For 5700

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But, no real issues afaik

simple stag Apr 14, 2020, 3:47 PM

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which brands/models would you rec?

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just bc it makes it easier on me bc im just flying blind as far as brands go haha

cursive wharf Apr 14, 2020, 3:50 PM

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cards to stay away from: Asus TUF, XFX Thicc and Thicc II, and Sapphire Pulse
Might've missed some. Can't do much now cuz gtg tho

simple stag Apr 14, 2020, 3:53 PM

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kk thx

wanton sail Apr 14, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Building pc for a friend and not great at optimizing for a price range. He just wants something that'll play new games at a min of 60 fps for 1100 got this so far but wasn't sure if I should lower the cpu/gpu/mobo to hit 1100 Pcpartpicker.com/list/DgqLq3

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DgqLq3

System Builder

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Well the case has bad airflow, you don't need 750w psu, I would pick a different mobo, and your ssd isn't great lol

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yX8RMc

System Builder

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Try that

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@wanton sail

austere condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:24 PM

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you'll need intake fans for the meshify C

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to make it useful as an airflow focused case

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Some upHere 5 packs fans should do the trick

austere condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:25 PM

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they could

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not the quietest things

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Unless you have a better suggestion

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What would you recommend

austere condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Arctic F12's have a good reputation

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Ok

austere condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:26 PM

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for a budget fan, that has good CFM/Db

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Do you see any other areas for improvement in the list I made?

austere condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:27 PM

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idk if i'd even go with a meshify C

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but thats just personal preference

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:28 PM

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He could get a phanteks p300a or something and save some money

austere condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:28 PM

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also i believe that NVMe drive is a PCIe 2x with no Dram

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Oh is it lol. I dunno I suggested because that's what mr1111 and hei suggest

austere condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:29 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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H510 is sufficient, as long as he gets extra fans for it

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if thats the case he wants

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Ok good catch

austere condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:31 PM

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H510 just has poor CPU thermal performance under heavy loads

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GPU temps under heavy loads its pretty average

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stock 3700x cooler should be fine

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i'd just get fans in the case

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Ok. I heard it was a hot box but don't have any actual experience with it. I assume you do 😂
So ill take your word for it

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:33 PM

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hello

austere condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:33 PM

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i havent built in it

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thats just data from gamers nexus

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:34 PM

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@austere condor oh ok.

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:34 PM

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im about to build mine tomorrow or next day when parts arrive

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Nice @misty spindle

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:34 PM

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ye im super NERVOUS

austere condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:35 PM

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ive worked in the H510 elite tho

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Feel free to ask any questions in here while your building it

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:35 PM

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ye eye

austere condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:35 PM

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i really wouldnt go any higher than a 5700xt in one tho

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:35 PM

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📎 IMG_20200411_001231.jpg

austere condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:35 PM

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worked on a system running a 2080 super

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:35 PM

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thats the case im going to work in

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Ok

austere condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:35 PM

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and it was getting too hot

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:35 PM

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How hot?

austere condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:36 PM

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like 95C under load

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:36 PM

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toasty

austere condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:36 PM

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and it was a 2080 super aorus Xtreme

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not a card that will normally run that hot

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Ooh ya thats hot

austere condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:36 PM

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rebuilt the PC into a new case

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:37 PM

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guys i have a question

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regarding pwm fans

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Shoot

austere condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:37 PM

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📎 00100lrPORTRAIT_00100_BURST20200308212513482_COVER.jpg

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:37 PM

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iss that your?

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Oh purty

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 5:37 PM

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@austere condor look for the p34a80

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:37 PM

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thats dope my dude

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 5:37 PM

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thats the one I suggested

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:37 PM

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H500 looking good

austere condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:37 PM

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no, i built that for a customer

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:38 PM

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i dont think thats the h500

austere condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:38 PM

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yeah, that one has the dram and is PCIe 4x

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Thats the H500m I believe

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H500 doesn't have that top thingy

austere condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:38 PM

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yeah, CM H500m

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:38 PM

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isnt the h500 from nzxt?

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 5:38 PM

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no

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:38 PM

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nbm

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nvm

austere condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:38 PM

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this is the coolermaster H500

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:38 PM

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im dumb

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Coolermaster also has a H500

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Ah ya ur right

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Lol

austere condor Apr 14, 2020, 5:38 PM

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📎 00100lPORTRAIT_00100_BURST20191115002242557_COVER.jpg

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this one is mine ^

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:38 PM

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o

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Theres 2 different SSDs, but I didn't specify since both amazon and newegg only had p34a80, so I thought there wouldn't be any confusion.

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:39 PM

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•v•

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:39 PM

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👀

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:39 PM

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ok so i had a question

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i got this fan splitter that connects to pwm fan header and sata power, will i be able to control 3 pin fans connected to it?

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Can you show us the splitter?

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:40 PM

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let me find it

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its most lickey somewhere in my history

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Kk

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:40 PM

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likely*

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i lost it

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crap

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:42 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:44 PM

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📎 IMG_20200414_104422.jpg

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similar to that one, its the same technology

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pwm connector

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and sata power

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or sata is optional idk

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nope not optional

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will i be able to control fan speeds?

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Ya I think so. They all have 4 pins, just makes sure your fans are pmw capable.
Also keep in mind that all of them are going to be the same speed that are on that splitter. You can't have individual speeds between fans on there

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:47 PM

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they are 3 pin

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Uh

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:47 PM

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the fan

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s

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wont it still work

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wait

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:48 PM

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I don't think so

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:48 PM

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THE PWM HEADER ONLY HAS 2 WIRES

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:48 PM

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You can still control them in bios but not by software

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I think

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:48 PM

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3 pin fans?

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Yes

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:48 PM

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ok good

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bios it IS

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:49 PM

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I have 3 pin fans on a splitter and I can still control them in my bios

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:49 PM

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o

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what splitter?

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:49 PM

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I dont remember lol

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Bought it a long time ago

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:49 PM

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was it similar M

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:49 PM

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No

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:49 PM

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oh

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lmao

buoyant flame Apr 14, 2020, 5:49 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

wanton sail Apr 14, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Oh sorry yeah I had the h510 cause I have pretty much same setup but a 2070super runs pretty cool just added 2 noctua fans

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At 1440p ultra keeps cpu under 70

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 5:58 PM

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hows my pc case?

📎 IMG_20200411_001231.jpg

little osprey Apr 14, 2020, 6:15 PM

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b450 tomahawk

simple stag Apr 14, 2020, 6:30 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XGJzGc

System Builder

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thoughts?

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trying to stay around 1000

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 6:34 PM

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@simple stag dont do that ssd

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dramless, sata, and just bad

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get an a80 512gb if you want a good nvme ssd

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you can save a buck by going for the evga 2060 ko that is 300$

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otherwise its good

wispy remnant Apr 14, 2020, 6:36 PM

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@simple stag 750 psu is a lil overkill I’d go 600-650

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 6:38 PM

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that seems pretty cheap

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so I'd take that

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like RMx 650 is 140$+

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you could save a buck and get 650w actually

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thought mwe gold 650 was out of stock

woeful agate Apr 14, 2020, 6:44 PM

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guys

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is it easy to build in the evolv shift air?

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if it is ill do it

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if not then rip

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halp plesss

simple stag Apr 14, 2020, 6:45 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/djNLq3

System Builder

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@stoic island @wispy remnant

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 6:46 PM

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dont do that PSU

woeful agate Apr 14, 2020, 6:46 PM

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@stoic island

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 6:46 PM

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go with MWE gold 650w

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idk that case

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 6:47 PM

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@woeful agate dont worry about it, you only have to build it once

woeful agate Apr 14, 2020, 6:47 PM

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yeah

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ok

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then

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do you need dexterity?

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 6:47 PM

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just time

woeful agate Apr 14, 2020, 6:47 PM

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patience?

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 6:48 PM

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its not a super big case, which makes it much easier

woeful agate Apr 14, 2020, 6:48 PM

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cause i kinda plan too

misty spindle Apr 14, 2020, 6:48 PM

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patience

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save up

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more

woeful agate Apr 14, 2020, 6:48 PM

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because i have a kinda small desk

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 6:48 PM

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do it on the floor

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a wood floor

woeful agate Apr 14, 2020, 6:48 PM

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I have enough moneh for a 3000 cad itx pc

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 6:48 PM

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not carpet

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 6:48 PM

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not carpet

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lol

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Desk would be good too if it fits

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 6:48 PM

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i build on carpet because its comfortable and i kno what im doing

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but u shouldnt

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 6:49 PM

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I like the desk

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 6:49 PM

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yeah, clean off the desk tho, the more room the better

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 6:49 PM

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I dont like kneeling to build or anything like that

viral ore Apr 14, 2020, 6:49 PM

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i do

woeful agate Apr 14, 2020, 6:49 PM

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yeah

stoic island Apr 14, 2020, 6:49 PM

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ma knees can hurt from kneeling too much

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I also have carpet