#building-and-recc-chat

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sudden turret
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is that radiator connected to the loop? :p

scenic heath
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Idk what that means😂😂😂

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I’m assuming your gonna say no though

sudden turret
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I mean, what do you think a radiator is used for 🙂

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but yeah, if you don't have a water loop in your system, you don't need a radiator 😄

scenic heath
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Ohh yea I see what you mean you taking about the clear tube water cooling

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Ok thanks you this is why I love this discord it’s so fun and helpful lol 😝

sudden turret
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What case do you have? and how many fans already installed?

cold sorrel
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Isn't installing extra fans on top a pretty common thing?

scenic heath
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@sudden turret well I have a nzxt but I’m getting a Phanteks enthoo evolv x and I see I have some extra room for 3 fans up top so i said why not

sudden turret
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oh nice, make them exhaust the air out and you'l be good.

scenic heath
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That’s what I thought it would be good for haha thanks you!!

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I ordered 1 Corsair ql 120

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For the back fan now im gonna order 3 more

cold sorrel
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I wish I had room in the budget to buy some extra fans for mine. Guess that goes on the list as an upgrade down the line

scenic heath
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Lol I had my pc for a month and I’m already making some upgrades😂

formal plover
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Guys!

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Verify that this is compatible

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I will make the case out of PVC

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Yes, PVC, the stuff that pipes are made of

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Hello?

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Is anyone here?

buoyant flame
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Your probably going to want to find a ssd if you want bearable usability

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Also psu seems sketchy

scenic heath
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If I have 2 Corsair LL120 mounted on my aio but I want the ql for my back fan and 3 exhaust fans

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Would it be more clean if I get them all the same model?

humble rivet
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It probably wouldn't really matter, I have 2 Corsair ml fans in front and 2 nzxt aer fans in back (my case came with the nzxt ones) and you really cant tell a difference

scenic heath
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Yea I figured it was jus if I wanted it or not

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But I really didn’t need it lol

warm nova
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the ql and ll fans will both work with icue so you can sync the RGB which is nice. they also use the same led's so the colors will match exactly unlike some other fans where the pinks might be a little more purple on one set or other colors just slightly off. QL's would work really well in the front of a case as intakes if you have a mesh or glass front panel since you could see the rgb on both sides. the LL's could then be used as exhaust so that the rgb faces towards the inside of the case.

round river
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I use Logitech G933 and my surround sound doesn’t work

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It only comes from center channel

scenic heath
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@warm nova that does make sense but my front fans will be covered with the LL’s since I’m swapping cases and I already have that installed on the aio so might as well use the Ql’s for the exhaust and back fan

gilded fog
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Can the b450 tomahawk max sapport a ryzen 3 3200g without a bios update?

icy plume
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i don't even recommend that board tbh

upper condor
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Yeah same

icy plume
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if you already have it, make it work, but if you're choosing, get something else

upper condor
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^

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Its not an inherently bad board, but theres much better

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It has good vrms, but nothing else is amazing just eh

buoyant flame
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Nobody answered his question tho.
Yes it does support 3000 series out of box

gilded fog
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Ok what board do you guys recomend

buoyant flame
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Asus tuf b450 pro gaming

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Make sure its the pro version and not the plus version

timber trench
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Can someone help me find a good 3 or 6 pack rgb fans? With motherboard control cause I don’t like using a remove control lol

gilded fog
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Ok

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Do you have to do a bios update for the asus tuf b450 pro gaming?

latent storm
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i don’t think so

gilded fog
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Ok

cold sorrel
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I'd love an answer to that fan question. I can't buy extra fans currently, but I'd appreciate recommendations for when I can

buoyant flame
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@gilded fog you do not need to bios update for the asus board

modern shadow
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should I go full atx for a budget build?

buoyant flame
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Those two have no correlation

buoyant flame
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mATX boards tend to be the most budget friendly but there are exceptions

foggy hazel
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region also comes into play there, in a big way

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as in, region availability

proud galleon
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NWZVCL Planning to do a build like this (I already have PSU and Storage). I kind of want to think about lowering costs a little while maintaining the the RGB aesthetic I want. Should I just go with the 2060 or is the 2060 super really going to be worth it for the extra cash. I plan on running all kinds of triple A titles at 1080p High settings. Don't really care about upping my resolution atm.

stoic island
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@proud galleon What's going to be the budget?

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And are you planning on sticking with that same AIO?

proud galleon
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@stoic island Not really deadset on a budget, was looking to shave it down to maybe $1000 for the time being. I was planning to move to an NZXT 280mm AIO for aesthetic reasons (included fans with case are 140), and NZXT has a very nice AIO, but I am not against compromising on another 280mm AIO that comes with decent lighting.

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That's the only reason I thought about taking the GPU down because I'm not as much as a graphics freak as I am an aesthetics freak.

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Really thinking of experimenting with RTX but i'm not 100% against even dropping to a 1660 Ti.

stoic island
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Well, my thought is you would probably need a RTX2060 or better to make sure you have good enough performance to be able to play triple A games on high settings for the years to come

proud galleon
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Yeah I think my best bet is dropping to a 2060 but I'm almost thinking the super would be worth the extra investment. I'll see what time brings, this pandemic is giving me quite a few more hours at work who knows.

stoic island
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I assume you'll have some time to wait for parts?

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Because the motherboard I would like to suggest is out of stock on Newegg, and the third party seller is asking for quite a bit above the usual price... https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-b450-pro-gaming/p/N82E16813119205/
Though amazon has a few in stock, amazon is going to take 10+ days to get it delivered due to the pandemic and all.

proud galleon
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Yeah I'm not too urgent about delivery. Definitely understanding with the pandemic. I also only have up to $600 saved atm for the build, so just about 2-3 weeks away from being where I need to be.

stoic island
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@proud galleon What kind of aethestics are you going for with the build?

obsidian rock
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Damn you people put here getting 1660ti’s while RX 5600xt’s perform better and are cheaper where I live

proud galleon
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Just slightly different color schemes.

obsidian rock
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I love it it has Kirby in it

stoic island
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Huh

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sooo

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Fair bit of ring rgb

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Sadly I think only NZXT makes those kinda cases

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and most NZXT cases dont have good airflow

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thats such an expensive case xd

humble rivet
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Looks > airflow

obsidian rock
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but aesthetics

stoic island
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Can't even recommend p400a bc prices are so wack

humble rivet
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I have an elite and it looks sick

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Although I think 011 looks better

stoic island
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I kinda hate NZXT for not making good mesh cases for airflow

humble rivet
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My temps aren't that bad so if @proud galleon wanta that case it should be fine

upper condor
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The rosewill prism looks good, but idk if it is

humble rivet
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I have an elite

upper condor
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Which one

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H510?

humble rivet
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Yea

upper condor
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Waaaay overpriced imo

stoic island
upper condor
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^

stoic island
upper condor
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Gn case reviews are the best for cases lol nothing compares

stoic island
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shaves off like 19c by just taking the panel off

humble rivet
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Idc what anyone says it looks good and my temps are fine

upper condor
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@humble rivet what are your specs

stoic island
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I just want to find a better priced alternative with better airflow...

celest horizon
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If you like the looks of a case - you can always reconfigure the fan setup.

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Just decide if your aethetic preference is worth the cost/ effort.

stoic island
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Forks, any ideas other than Meshify C?

viral ore
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also, remember that 63C load is no where near throttling temps

humble rivet
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A bit better than larrys

stoic island
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Ick

upper condor
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Td500?

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Idk how stock is

stoic island
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I'm nitpicky about temps

celest horizon
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I'm not the best person to ask about ATX cases lol.

viral ore
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if it aint 85C and you not OCing

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temps are irelevant

stoic island
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Alright

celest horizon
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I just know the meshify C is pretty well reviewed, the O11 is the RGB disco ball, and that I'm too snobby to put my own hardware in a regular upright case 😆

viral ore
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if you ARE OCing, then it really does matter tho lol

stoic island
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I like things to run cooler, with better OC headroom, and all dat

upper condor
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Not really, having lower temps usually means dtuff lasts longer

stoic island
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but that 150$ price tag

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when they want to shave money off

upper condor
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Thats the big problem

stoic island
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thats where its gonna have to go imo :p

viral ore
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meshify C is just such a good case tho

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especially for $90

stoic island
celest horizon
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He's not wrong in that the kraken x62 is one of the best on the market.

stoic island
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Forks, I was thinking h115i since thats cheaper?

viral ore
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x63 is a thing now

celest horizon
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Don't think it comes with rgb fans though. Gotta go with an H115 i platinum for that.

upper condor
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I really wish people would just not want so much rgb..... lists would be so much easier to make

stoic island
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And with GN reviews, x63 thermals are really close to x62, and h115i beats x62 thermals.

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bloody rgb

humble rivet
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Rgb ftw

upper condor
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The coolermaster ml240 and 280 are pretty cheap in the aio world

viral ore
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ive heard good things on those

celest horizon
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Ya, those and the EVGA CLC's are some of the best performance/$ if you want something no frills/rgb.

viral ore
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i dont know if they have amazing performance tho

stoic island
celest horizon
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Buildzoid himself uses a 240? mm EVGA CLC for benching on stream.

cold sorrel
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I'd like to get some shiny rgb fans eventually for my new build, even if I can't afford them initially

celest horizon
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Actually he was just pulling capacitors off the MB with pliers to see if it'd die , but still.

stoic island
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swap out the h115i for a 240mm evga clc plus like 5 pack of ll120mms maybe?

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wait

humble rivet
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Supa expensive

celest horizon
stoic island
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240clc so much cheaper than 280 :p

upper condor
stoic island
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32$ per?

upper condor
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Hope not

stoic island
upper condor
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Thats corsair level peices

celest horizon
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KermitVader They're $25 / 3 on ||Amazon||

upper condor
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Phew

stoic island
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oh no

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spoiler ||broke?||

upper condor
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Uphere has pretty decent reliable fans

stoic island
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yea

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I was hearing uphere had good rgb fans

upper condor
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Spoiler haha I made you click

celest horizon
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lol oops wrong link

viral ore
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||poggers||

stoic island
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5 pack for 30

celest horizon
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That's a great price imo

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They're no LL120 - but ya, that price lol.

upper condor
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Gaaah why do I do this

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I was just checking discord before sleep

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Ive fallen into a pit of not sleeping now

celest horizon
stoic island
upper condor
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Idk 10 more dollars for 1 more fan

cold sorrel
stoic island
proud galleon
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Yeah thank you, i'll consider everyone's advice and maybe look into parts a little more.

stoic island
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Alright.

cursive wharf
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Remove the AIO and get a 2070S?

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@proud galleon

stoic island
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Hei, they want aesthetics over performance

cursive wharf
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3d print fake AIO and put overtop air cooler for like $20 or less using 3d printing services

stoic island
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how do you even

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air coolers are so much bigger than the contact plate

maiden trench
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Hey guys, could you help me decide on if this build is good for future upgrades? I found it on Amazon while researching for parts.

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It made it seem overall cheaper to buy a prebuilt then upgrade anything I may see fit, such as a wifi card.

stoic island
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Well, prebuilt upgrading can be iffy sometimes, especially with proprietary components. But I'll try to take a look.

maiden trench
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I appreciate it Cheif!

buoyant flame
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Keep in mind its refurbished. Im sure you know that l just want to point it out

maiden trench
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Mhm I am just curious to have more experienced eyes on this.

stoic island
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Oh boy that those component choices.....

buoyant flame
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Lol

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First upgrade is DEFINATELY a ssd

stoic island
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I don't like the looks of that for upgradability...

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First, that isn't a great PSU, but it can work okay

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Only 1 M.2 slot, which is okaay

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then only 2 ram dimm slots, which is pretty bad for upgradability

buoyant flame
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The ram wouldn't really be the first thing he'd upgrade tho

stoic island
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then, the mobo chipset is A320m, which makes it pretty bad for supporting newer higher end CPUs

deep skiff
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i mean you could still slap 64gb of ram in there

stoic island
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They wanted good upgradability I thought?

buoyant flame
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Lol your right

stoic island
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It would force you to buy a new set of ram whenever you want to upgrade

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cant keep previous ram

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that ram is already pretty bad too

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2400mhz

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prob cl18, doesn't say.

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has to specify (not stock heatsink)

buoyant flame
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Lol

stoic island
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Idek if thats even any better than the stock heatsink

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looks like a wraith stealth with red led lol

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even more suspicious thing is that Coolermaster also makes the stock heatsinks

buoyant flame
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Probably not better

stoic island
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they might've just slapped on leds xD

buoyant flame
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I saw once that when they do that the heatsink doesn't completely cover the chip

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It was like in a bitwit pre-built analyst video

stoic island
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anyways, I think that PSU is a tt smart bm1

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tier c

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not great

maiden trench
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Would it be implied that Cooler master is not reliable?

buoyant flame
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No

stoic island
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Stock heatsink is good actually

buoyant flame
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Just this specific implementation is not the best

stoic island
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I was just poking at the description lol

maiden trench
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Oh I understand.

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If I were to change anything what'd be my first thing? Just to summarize the overview that you guys gave.

stoic island
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I had to go quickly take a peak at what kinda custom build you could build at that price, and it seems you can probably do better with building it yourself

maiden trench
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I am seeing Power supply and Ram

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Oh ok?!

stoic island
maiden trench
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Well how about this build that I sketched up

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Oh wait

stoic island
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That prebuilt, I have many critiques for, and that being not a major retailer in terms of prebuits, I cant tell you how good their customer support and QA is, so I definally wouldn't recommend.

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I gotta go for a bit

maiden trench
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That looks great with an ATX form factor, the build you sent me.

stoic island
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also, the CPU in my build, I didn't specify, but it's meant to be 1600af, other ppl here can explain the difference, I really gotta go for a bit

maiden trench
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Oh I was actually curious about the RX580 vs the 1050

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Oh okay

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Wow, this blows that prebuilt away!
Definitely a great amount of research done.

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I am most likely going to purchase that set of parts.

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If I have any other concerns I will come back here.

buoyant flame
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Ya mr1111s list destroys that prebuilt

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However I still would recommend a ssd

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It would make everything so much better im usability

stoic island
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@buoyant flame that's why I said it's not a good list, I'm out doing smth rn, can you edit the list to have like a silicon power a80 240g plus a 1tb HDD or smth?

cursive wharf
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240gb NVMe is kinda eh tho

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480gb SATA is usually barely more money

stoic island
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Alright hei can you do your thing?

buoyant flame
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I put the a80 in there because I dont really have time to find a good ssd rn

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Shoot didn't mean to send that

deep skiff
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🤔 you linked the gpu again

buoyant flame
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It won't let me delete it 😂

deep skiff
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L

buoyant flame
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MODS HELP

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That means that I lost the list too lol

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@celest horizon can you delete that gpu link for me real quick

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It won't let me

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Thx

cursive wharf
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welp, SATA prices have died completely now, no more amazing options
-SATA 240: $41
-NVMe 240: $48
-SATA 480: $60
-NVMe 512: $68.99

stoic island
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lol

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Hei all the prices are wack okay

cursive wharf
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Well I mean it's more out of proportion now

stoic island
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I need that as an emoji

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wish that image was smaller but eh

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meh

celest horizon
stoic island
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interesting

vague crystal
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he dont need that much big hardware lol

umbral scaffold
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Hello

stoic island
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What the budget

tepid basalt
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unlimited

vague crystal
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no

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you want a budget

umbral scaffold
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my son is wanting a pc that can run red dead, gta, fortnite, csgo, etc

stoic island
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Like I see 9900k, then I see 2060, that's pretty unbalanced imo for gaming

vague crystal
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ok.

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3700x and 2070S?

umbral scaffold
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Budget 1.5k probably

stoic island
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Red dead and gta are gonna require some good hardware

umbral scaffold
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will 2070 run those games?

vague crystal
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2070 super

umbral scaffold
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will a *

vague crystal
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at 1440p

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yes

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and at 1080p yes

stoic island
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You can easily get 3600+2070s at that price

vague crystal
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4k 60 should be fine

stoic island
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Hell I think hei managed to fit in a 2080s in a list for 1500$ before

tepid basalt
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well it's ez

stoic island
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Anyways

umbral scaffold
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will a 2070s run red dead max settings?

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at 1080, 1440

tepid basalt
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i5 9400f + 2080s

stoic island
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At 1080p, definally.

vague crystal
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1440p maybe 60

stoic island
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Nah, 3600+2080s

tepid basalt
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since it's intel, you don't have to spend much on ram

stoic island
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Ram for ryzen ain't much more

vague crystal
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intel cost more in the end

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cause cooler

stoic island
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It's like 10$ more for the ram

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When you save on cooler, CPU, and Mobo usually.

vague crystal
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yeah

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btw if you need a 1440p 144hz monitor... gotta shell out some money

umbral scaffold
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I have 4

vague crystal
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4 what

umbral scaffold
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1440p 144hz's monitors I can just give him one

vague crystal
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uh ok

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i wish i were you

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but ok then i guess 3600 and 2080 super would be good

umbral scaffold
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would the 3600 be a bottleneck with the 2080s?

vague crystal
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not really

cursive wharf
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at that point you should be running at 1440p

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to which the GPU wont bottleneck the CPU

vague crystal
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yeah he said he will be

vague crystal
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but then again

tepid basalt
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it's not hard to fit 3600 + 2080s

cursive wharf
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lots of things should be changed from that

vague crystal
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you will have to turn down some settings to hit the full 144hz on 1440p

umbral scaffold
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fn should run fine on 144hz, 1440p right

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max settings

vague crystal
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why max settings

umbral scaffold
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So much nicer

tepid basalt
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well even a 2060s gonna do that ez

umbral scaffold
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my 1660 does 120 fps

vague crystal
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high and max are like the same

umbral scaffold
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1660 ti*

vague crystal
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your giving your son better hardware than you have?

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ok then

umbral scaffold
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Yeah 🙂

vague crystal
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uh that looks like a bad parts list

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2tb hdd perferd, swap out ssd for a 500gb nvme or somthing

stoic island
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That list hurts

vague crystal
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cooler needs to be changed

stoic island
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Put in an a80

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Don't need a cooler

vague crystal
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and yeah

stoic island
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2tb barracuda

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Better PSU, get an amp.

tepid basalt
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like I said

cursive wharf
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AMP might be out I think now

tepid basalt
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you have 200 left

stoic island
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Better ram, ripjaw v at like 5$ more 3600mhs cl16

tepid basalt
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do whatever you want

vague crystal
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3600 memory

stoic island
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Ah damn

tepid basalt
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jeezz

stoic island
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RMx maybe

tepid basalt
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ripjaw ugly af

vague crystal
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it dont matter?

stoic island
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Unless whisper in stock?

vague crystal
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anyways that list makes me barf

stoic island
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There's also no case, put in a meshify c, make it look nice.

cursive wharf
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nvm, still there

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seen talk about it on LTT discord

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maybe it was 650w version

stoic island
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I keep hearing about other eiscords I kinda want to join

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But I won't
I'm loyal to wegg

vague crystal
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sme

stoic island
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I'm also too lazy

umbral scaffold
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Alright, thank you guys SO MUCH for the help I have to go pick up my other son from daycare

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I will be back soon!

stoic island
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Alright, see ya!

cursive wharf
vague crystal
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am trying to learn stuff

cursive wharf
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Fun thing to learn about mobos, the tomahawk sucks

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poor sound chip, less M2 slots, less RGB headers, lacks WiFi, worse network chip, etc when compared to boards in the same price bracket

vague crystal
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yeah

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heard about that

cursive wharf
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So I'd advised against recommending unless very specific use case tbh

vague crystal
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i have that card but the 2070S version, is the cooler any good? (the one in your list)

cursive wharf
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As for 750w PSU, I wouldn't go RM. If your PC takes 750w it'll be a dual GPU or HEDT computer. As such being like 3k+. The PSU cost should be proportional to the PC cost. So that you get those extra features such as really low voltage ripple, better load regulation, better transient response, multi railing, etc. I wouldn't recommend more then 650w for 99.99% of standard consumers

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I usually keep the max PSU budget to 550w

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as that can run a stock 3950x + stock 2080Ti

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I didnt look at reviews of the card, but I havent heard of it being horrible. 99% chance that the EVGA you picked card is better tho

vague crystal
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ok

cursive wharf
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As EVGA has been doing quite well in the cheap side of cards

vague crystal
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thanks a lot, i just wanna know more about the stuff i like doing.

cursive wharf
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np, always try to help

pulsar dew
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Curious what anyone would think about this as far as a server build. I already have the MB, RAM, and PSU from a previous upgrade which is why I'm going with that CPU. Thanks for any help!
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YHtCtp

cursive wharf
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PSU isnt that great. Missing OCP (over current protection) and UVP (under voltage protection). While it may be able to simulate OCP cuz it has OVP (over voltage protection) and OPP (over power protection) it cant in any way do UVP properly. So if something bad happens from a failing component, unexpected shutdowns from say blackouts (maybe not for this specific model, but an example), PSU just failing randomly, or something else then the PSU wont be able to protect your components from supplying too low of voltage which can easily damage them

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Also for a server build I'd want the fans to last long without worrying much of them. The PSU fan is sleeve bearing which has usually the lowest lifespan for computer fan bearings

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Also what kind of server? Afaik NASes dont really need that great of a CPU much of at all

pulsar dew
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Sorry the PSU is just a stand in because the one I have already I couldn't find on pcpartpicker. The one I have is 80+ gold so I'm not worried about that (but I appreciate you pointing it out).
And as far as what kind of server I don't really know much about setting them up so I don't know. I'm still doing research on that but basically I want it to be able to backup both my current PCs as well as being a place where I can store media files (I stream and do graphic design so I have a ton of videos and after effects files that take up a lot of space)

cursive wharf
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Just because it's 80+ gold doesnt mean it's good. Some 80+ bronze easily beat out some gold as there is quite a bit to PSUs (my little rant was on one small segment of them, protections) other then just efficiency.
If you stream then that CPU is I think good enough for encoding by itself. So meaning a single PC for playing games and one for streaming. Tho then again if your current hardware is already good enough (some high end CPU or 20 series Nvidia) then it's kinda a hassle to do for such minimal gains and you'd probably be best off with a cheaper CPU

umbral scaffold
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I know, this is trash for saving costs

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like I could of used more cost effective ram, didn't need that much wattage in the power supply

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don't need that much ram

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but I don't min

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d

tranquil dust
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do you have a case already?

umbral scaffold
#

oops *

tranquil dust
#

if budget doesnt matter, then why get 3200 and not like 3600

cursive wharf
pulsar dew
#

@cursive wharf I get what you mean as far as the PSU. The one I have I'm not worried about though cause it's a good brand and everything. But for CPU the i5 9400 CPU that I went with was mostly because I already have the motherboard and that was one of the cheapest CPUs I could get that fit the MB that still had onboard graphics. That's why I had that one. I guess if I could get a CPU and MB combo for cheaper than this CPU it would maybe be worth it but I'd like to repurpose the parts that I already have where possible

cursive wharf
#

cant get a 8100/9100 or whatever the i3 is? Also, never judge a PSU by brand because there isnt a PSU brand out there that doesnt sell bad PSUs

pulsar dew
#

Totally fair. I definitely get that. And it’s an LGA1151 socket so at least on pcpartpicker that was the lowest compatible

stoic island
#

@cursive wharf Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't doesn't one of the Seagate 3tb drives have an extremely high failure rate?

raw matrix
#

hey anyone mind helping me pick out parts for a custom loop? y'all know I'm gonna be running 3900x and asus rog strix 2080ti. the 2 possible cases afaik will be either the ibuypower snowblind element, or the corsair 780t

stoic island
#

ekwb

raw matrix
#

I thought about doing ek's fluid gaming because the aluminum stuff seems a lot cheaper but it looks like there's pretty much discontinuing the kits

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problem is their kits that include the gpu block are only the ones for the 10 series or the amd offerings I think

stoic island
#

huh

raw matrix
#

and the only other complete kit I could find is for the vega gpu

stoic island
raw matrix
#

yah I was playing with that and it gave me a like $700 configuration

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and I can only assume that's before taxes

stoic island
#

damn

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idk much about custom water cooling

#

I'm an air guy myself

raw matrix
#

yah the aluminum wasn't going to cost me more than $400 I think

stoic island
#

looked like aluminum was only 10 series :(

raw matrix
#

they got a gpu block for the rtx series but it's not in a kit

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I could technically just do something like get this

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and then just buy the gpu block

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but then I'd have a gpu block for a vega gpu extra 😂

stoic island
#

yea......

raw matrix
#

bc they don't have the option to buy tubing on this portion of their website

stoic island
sudden turret
#

very expensive

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i'd rather got thermaltake than corsair

stoic island
#

as I've said before, I'm not a custom water guy

woeful agate
#

can anyone configure a gaming/recording/gaming pc for me
I live in canada lol
and budget is 3500 CAD

stoic island
#

@woeful agate Need a monitor or no

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and do you need wifi

woeful agate
#

thanks @stoic island

stoic island
#

yw.

buoyant flame
#

Nice looking build Plus_One

stoic island
#

uphere is cheaper

cold sorrel
#

Possibly. But I just like the look of those and I'm not seeing a wash of bad reviews. (Which I assume would be there if they were complete trash)

cursive wharf
buoyant flame
#

Doesn't aliexpress have expensive shipping tho?

cursive wharf
#

It's eh. But also the kit is simply cheaper then others

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shipping puts it close to same price

buoyant flame
#

True

chrome rampart
#

has anyone built with the H1 yet??

cerulean burrow
#

Does anyone have any reviews of the In Win 301 m-atx case?

sudden turret
#

I wish

marsh adder
#

Hi. I'm attempting to build a small temporary wood case for a laptop (mobo only) which I am using as a server.

#

So far it's gone fine, but I can't seem to find any screws that go into the motherboard's holes.

#

It seems normal desktop motherboard screws are slightly too large.

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Any ideas?

little osprey
#

Paperclips?

#

Didn't the Mobo come with screws?

marsh adder
#

To hold a motherboard in??

#

I took it out of an old laptop years ago. I don't have the screws that it was using anymore.

marsh adder
#

We ended up attaching the mobo using some bizarre L-shaped wood screws.

native grove
#

Could I get some one to help me plan out a $1000 computer build that is vr ready and had room for later upgrades?

wide sparrow
#

I can try

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I'm bored

wide sparrow
tranquil dust
#

yooo

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great list btw

wide sparrow
#

Oof

tranquil dust
#

{obvious sarcasm}}

wide sparrow
#

There we go 😅

#

@native grove im not a pro but these are good parts

cursive wharf
#

but why tomahawk tho?

wide sparrow
#

Mmmmmm

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good question

native grove
#

Is there a better option for the same price range?

sullen spoke
#

sure

wide sparrow
#

Slightly more expensive...but still below $1100

#

I bet someone could make a better one lol

native grove
#

What is the advantage of an m.2 over a hard drive or ssd? Other than speed?

wide sparrow
#

Much faster

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not limited by sata bandwidth

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and its the smallest storage form factor

#

I'm so tired. Didn't read your whole comment

#

I'll say size

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Latency is less I think compared to the other 2

tranquil dust
#

that is a sata m2 drive

#

pretty sure there's no speed gain

#

could be wrong tho

wide sparrow
#

Yeah that was a sata m.2. Sorry

#

@native grove here we go. Fixed the build

native grove
#

Haha I probably wouldn't have noticed. Haven't been around a new PC in a while

wide sparrow
#

lol

#

Well this should be good

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Should

#

Hei's the expert 👌

marsh adder
#

I don't remember the Meshify C being $92 when I bought it.

sullen spoke
#

prices always change

wide sparrow
#

Yep

marsh adder
#

Has the price gone way up from like $50?

#

Or am I thinking of a different case?

cursive wharf
sullen spoke
#

i dont remember it being 50

wide sparrow
#

Oof

marsh adder
#

I think I bought it for around $50 from newegg.

wide sparrow
#

here goes my 30 mins of effort

cursive wharf
#

It was good as a base tho

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didnt need to swap everything

marsh adder
#

I def would not have been able to pay more than that when I bought it.

cursive wharf
#

Also I've seen some people put in the 1600 AF in the CPU section with the picture and all. how tho?

#

Makes it easier then having to find the amazon link all the time

marsh adder
#

ctrl-d to bookmark

wide sparrow
#

My efforts were not in vain. Thanks @cursive wharf

cursive wharf
#

thanks for thy links
ye, np

native grove
#

Thanks everyone

wide sparrow
#

Of course

native grove
#

What can the 1600af be compared too? Ive heard of it quite a bit lately but don't know anything about it

teal bison
#

2600

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I think it's at most like 5 fps lower in games, usually around 1-2

native grove
#

Wow that's a great deal

subtle halo
#

1600af bad

cursive wharf
#

...
alrighty then....
sure....

stoic island
#

ok

tepid basalt
#

I just don't get it

#

what does "af" stand for?

humble rivet
#

As fu**

lyric thistle
#

As frick

tepid basalt
#

sixteen hundred as f?

humble rivet
#

Yup definitely

analog hearth
#

No

lyric thistle
#

The previous 1600 was AE

#

The new one is AF

humble rivet
#

Enormous

tepid basalt
#

oh

#

so that's how it is

analog hearth
#

@lyric thistle thanks for explaining

lyric thistle
#

:>

humble rivet
#

Oh it's like the abc's

analog hearth
#

Lmfaoo yeah

humble rivet
#

Except theres no abcd

#

I think

tepid basalt
#

is there any chance we can buy a 2070s with 400 dollars after the 3000 release 🤔

#

pricing of rtx card sucks rn

humble rivet
#

There's a chance

tepid basalt
#

or Imma just wait for the 3000 and buy one of those

#

just want to get my pc ready for cbp2077

humble rivet
#

When they release you could probably find some cheapish 2080ti's

tepid basalt
#

dem

#

the 1080ti is such a good buy

#

but i'm too scared of the warranty thing

#

so I daren't buy it

sullen spoke
#

meh warranty shmarranty

tepid basalt
#

well dun wanna spend 400 dollars for it to die after 5 months

celest horizon
#

I'd just go for a 2070 super. Not a huge performance difference.

tepid basalt
#

yeah ik

#

it's just a bit overprice rn

#

so I'm looking forward to the 3000 release to make 2000 price more reasonable

humble rivet
#

When is it releasing?

celest horizon
#

Probably late 2020

humble rivet
#

Oh

tepid basalt
#

yeah

#

pretty long

celest horizon
#

There will always be faster, cooler, RGB'er tech - if you need/want something now, just go for it imo.

humble rivet
#

Luckily rgb is all that matters and you can add that on easily

tepid basalt
#

i know that, but I'd still prefer to wait

#

I'm moving to a new place after June so don't wanna complicate things for now

#

because the moving out will require extra fund

foggy hazel
#

"so I'm looking forward to the 3000 release to make 2000 price more reasonable" <- you are going to be waiting a LONG time for that

lyric thistle
#

Jeopardy theme

cursive wharf
#

10 series prices have barely dropped, none of which in a decent price range

#

apart from 1070 and sometimes 1070ti (but rarely)

lyric thistle
#

Why couldn't there have been a 1670 😔

vague crystal
#

why you name so long

stoic island
#

Why your name so long

vague crystal
#

idk

lyric thistle
#

Why you name so long

tepid basalt
#

no

#

or maybe u r right

#

the 1080ti is having a really good price rn

#

but considering "now" = close to 3000 release

#

meh...

#

🤦‍♂️

lyric thistle
#

1680 Super when 😔

obsidian rock
#

750ti refresh surely

tepid basalt
#

but why

obsidian rock
#

we need it

rocky dirge
#

Hopefully with the new launch gts450 prices will go down so I can finally afford an uograde

latent bronze
#

and play what LoL with it?

obsidian rock
#

nah nah man

#

crysis

tepid basalt
#

750ti is still hell of a popular card here

subtle halo
#

yes lot of cafe shop still use that 750ti for eSports games.. still can play dota 2

umbral scaffold
#

I want to have heaps of fans

#

how much fans can I fit in there

tepid basalt
#

not much

#

about 7 or 8 irrc

#

I saw this cased with fans crammed in it once before

cursive wharf
#

Putting in the max amount of fans usually causes turbulence and increases temps and noise. Also, with that amount of money you can get a 2080Ti if you didn't waste so much on everything else. And yes I know it's AUD

buoyant flame
#

^ mobo overpriced, ram overpriced, don't need a 850w psu , and imo liquid cooler is not necessary for this build

humble rivet
#

NOCTUA

stoic island
#

noctua? noctua.

#

@humble rivet NOCTUA!

lyric thistle
#

Not ctua

stoic island
#

Noc-tua

lyric thistle
#

Natcuta

wide sparrow
#

Not true bruh

buoyant flame
#

Knock-too-augh

woeful agate
#

guys
can anyone config a ryzen 9 3900x pc for me
budget is 3800 cad

viral ore
#

on $3800

#

get the 3950x

woeful agate
#

you sure?

viral ore
#

definetly

buoyant flame
#

Facts

viral ore
#

literally, 2000 for 2080ti and 3950x

#

1800 for the rest of the system

woeful agate
#

ok

#

can you config on please

viral ore
#

the rest of the system is gonna only be like 1200 max

woeful agate
#

one

viral ore
#

sure ig

woeful agate
#

plsssss

viral ore
#

is this a joke, or do you actually have 3800 you can spend?

#

i need to know if you are ready to dump 3800 dollars
@woeful agate

round river
#

My pc won’t output surround sound to my headphones. I tested my headphones on another pc and they worked just fine

#

I reset drivers

#

Reinstalled Logitech gaming software

#

I’m beginning to think that the sound chip in my mobo is damaged or something

viral ore
#

are your headphones USB?

#

@round river

round river
#

Yup

#

Plug them in somewhere else?

buoyant flame
#

Not your motherboard then

viral ore
#

then they dont use the integrated audio chip

round river
#

Oh ok

#

Phew

viral ore
#

if the headphones work on another machine, then its something in software

round river
#

At least I don’t need a new mobo

#

Is the fact that windows won’t let me turn on spatial sound something to do with the problem?

woeful agate
#

@viral ore yes

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i have 380 cad

#

3800 i mean

#

sorry

viral ore
#

ok then, brb

stiff narwhal
#

Big difference lol

humble rivet
#

Some laptops are good

viral ore
#

i assume your just gaming? @woeful agate

stiff narwhal
#

Find me something with desktop 1070 performance that's quiet

buoyant flame
#

Its just a 0 @stiff narwhal can't be that big of a difference

stiff narwhal
#

And I'll consider

viral ore
#

no

stiff narwhal
#

I'm moving off to college in a few months. Won't have to move my PC then

viral ore
#

i am the only fish

stiff narwhal
#

FishSauce

buoyant flame
#

Fish fighting time

humble rivet
#

Well I didn't know that

viral ore
#

SassyFish

stiff narwhal
#

😂😂

viral ore
#

lmao

humble rivet
#

If I did then obviously don't

woeful agate
#

@viral ore gaming/editing/recording

stiff narwhal
#

Even sophomore year I refused to get a laptop

viral ore
#

do you know theres such thing as sassyfish sauce

stiff narwhal
#

That's sus

buoyant flame
#

Lmao

stiff narwhal
#

@humble rivet almost got a 1660ti laptop w/ i5 9300h but decided against it. So glad I did

#

Since then, I sold my PC at a profit and now I'm finishing building my 2060 super PC

viral ore
#

do you have any aesthetic preferences? @woeful agate

buoyant flame
#

That name tho

viral ore
#

ikr lol

woeful agate
#

lol

#

no

#

dont care bout aestheticity

#

(dunno if dats a word)

#

Just care bout preformance

#

*performance

viral ore
#

i assume you dont care about RGB, but if you wanted two colors, what would they be

#

black and what

woeful agate
#

rgb and rgb

#

LOL

#

white and black

viral ore
#

at this price range, everything will have lighting

woeful agate
#

yeah sure have rgb

viral ore
#

not by choice

#

do you need wifi

woeful agate
#

sure why not

buoyant flame
#

💸

viral ore
#

how about size

#

would you prefer something smaller

#

like just not huge

woeful agate
#

ATX

viral ore
#

any reason?

#

or do you just want it not small

woeful agate
#

i dunno

#

yeah

buoyant flame
#

A lot if deep thought went into this build beforehand ThonkRotate

woeful agate
#

lol @buoyant flame

#

5 years later

#

"finally! I have a 3800 cad pc!"

#

lol

viral ore
#

im workin, im workin

woeful agate
#

kk

viral ore
#

10 mins

worthy tendon
viral ore
#

crap, your in canada @woeful agate

#

this makes things more difficult

#

because idk whats in stock and what isnt

#

are you ready to buy today?

#

i can just find direct links to parts instead of a pcpp list

woeful agate
#

no im not

#

and sure

#

find direct links

#

thats fine

#

go

viral ore
#

well, that only works if you can buy now

#

things go in and out of stock

woeful agate
#

well then no

#

sorry

#

take your time

viral ore
#

and, this is one of the worst times to build a pc because more things are out of stock than usual, making it kinda annoying

#

how badly do you need this pc? it might be beneficial to wait, especially if your dropping close to 4k

#

also with 10 gen intel at reasonable prices launching soon, and nvidia 30xx also releasing soon

woeful agate
#

I Badly need

#

i have a very bad PC

#

just config it and when new stuff comes Ill change it

viral ore
#

k

#

do you need peripherals?

woeful agate
#

nope

#

thank you dude

viral ore
#

like keyboard mouse monitor

#

ok

woeful agate
#

no

#

thanks

viral ore
#

also, thats in USD, not CAD

#

and the parts may or may not be available in canada

#

but most of them should

cold sorrel
#

Noticed that most of my parts list on Newegg right now comes to just over a 1000 USD. (That is no monitor, but it does include a nice keyboard I found).

viral ore
#

crap @woeful agate , those parts are way more expensive in CAD, and i had no idea

#

but, i did figure out how to switch to canada pcpp

#

new list for CAD

#

sorry

latent storm
#

hey

humble rivet
#

Hey

gilded fog
#

Which mother board is better for upgrading, the msi b450 tomahawk max or the asus tuf b450 pro gaming

buoyant flame
#

Pro gaming

cursive wharf
#

@viral ore while it is possible to run that off a 550s PSU you generally shouldn't as 650w allows for OC and proportional speaking makes the PC barely anymore expensive. Also 3950x and only 16gb RAM?

viral ore
#

16gb is enough for gaming, light editing and recording

#

And 550w is fine

cursive wharf
#

550w is okay for stock, but literally only stock. No OC headroom, not really even a small one is available.

viral ore
#

If he wanted to oc he would have said so

buoyant flame
#

He didn't say if he wanted wifi or a specific form factor until you asked tho so...

viral ore
#

considering that, he probably doesnt know what overclocking is

buoyant flame
#

That is very probable 😂

viral ore
#

i saw his budget, and said 2080ti, 3950x, and let the rest of the components fall into place

#

plus, the psu is white :poggers:

cursive wharf
#

Looked back and it seemed like editing, not light editing

#

was said

viral ore
#

i doubt hes working with 4k footage, lets be honest

#

i gathered that what he means by editing is like adobe photoshop

#

if he needs more ram, its a $120 cad change

cursive wharf
viral ore
#

ok sure, tell him yourself

buoyant flame
#

I mean heis list looks better imo

viral ore
#

it performs better, sure

#

but it doesnt look better

#

well, i dont even know about performance tbh

#

its cheaper for a similar thing

cursive wharf
#

The only "perf" or "quality" difference would be GPU. Venteus has a pretty poor cooler. I'd suggest FE over it

buoyant flame
#

The only difference in looks is really the mobo and aio because the case has a psu shroud

tepid basalt
#

a friend of mine offer me a deal

#

i7 8700 + b360m mortar titanium for $260

#

should I take it? 🤔

cursive wharf
#

1600AF ($85) + okay b450 ($96) is less then $200 new

celest horizon
#

See if he's open to selling just the cpu - if you're looking for that type of setup.

#

I would've advise picking up that board in 2020.

tepid basalt
#

why tho?

#

i look up the board and it doesn't look too bad

#

just missing the wifi thingy if I'm willing to pay more for a 3600 + b450 gaming carbon

#

and an inferior sound chip

stoic island
#

b450 gaming pro carbon ac is good for a b450 wifi board

deep skiff
#

pro carbon is expensive

buoyant flame
#

Ya ^

tepid basalt
#

yeah ik

stoic island
#

it is expensive

#

but good

tepid basalt
#

but the thing is I'm torn between those 2 deal

#

and I'm confused

#

i7 8700 is said to perform better than 3600

#

now I can get it for a lower price but also a worse mobo

humble rivet
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

Buy them both then sell the Mobo I guess

tepid basalt
#

dang it

#

there is no b360 or 65 with wifi available

silk estuary
#

So if I were to want to make a comp that has the capacity of 64 GB of ram+, and can get CPU speeds of 4.5 Ghz, and has an amazing graphics card, what would i want to get?

cursive wharf
#

Considering you want 64gb of RAM, I'd take it you're doing a workstation build? As such the hardware you want entirely depends on what workloads you do. Some workstation workloads still are better on Intel by a fair margin despite AMD having a considerate advantage in raw power, you might want a AMD or Nvidia GPU and may be able to get away with the standard gaming stuff from each contender, or you might need to get the professional stuff from one of them

wispy matrix
#

Any good $1000 dollar prebuilt

little osprey
#

b450 tomahawk

lime forge
#

b450 tomahawk

celest horizon
vivid thorn
#

Z390

little osprey
#

on the other hand

#

b450 tomahawk

icy plume
#

i would rather a b450 tomahawk than use intel

vivid thorn
#

Okay fanboy

lime forge
#

b450 tomahawk?

tepid basalt
#

tomahawk

little osprey
#

b450 tomahawk

tepid basalt
#

TOMAHAWK

cursive wharf
#

sucks

little osprey
#

b450 tomahawk

tepid basalt
#

sucks

wispy matrix
#

Thomahawk

obsidian rock
#

axe

raw stump
#

hey guys i have a weird situation right here
i bought the G.SKILL Trident Z RGB (For AMD) by mistake, somehow i didn't see the word (for AMD)
so i'm wondering if it will works with intel cpu i9 9900k or should i buy the normal G.SKILL Trident Z RGB

compact latch
#

G skill trident doesn't care what cpu you put it with for cpu you'll be fine.

tame trench
#

i am looking for an outdoor audio system with outdoor speakers (I have 6 wires run). Looking for a receiver to be able to broadcast TV, Audio, radio, etc. What do you recommend in a reasonable price point

deep skiff
#

@raw stump the “for amd” is a marketing thing

#

it will be perfectly fine

eager chasm
#

it's really more of meaning it's optimized for AMD, but really that hasn't mattered since first gen Ryzen when they were pickier about the dies on the sticks, even then suboptimal pairings still worked. but really in most cases any DDR4 modules will work on any platform.

silk estuary
#

Well then 32, i wasn't going for workstation just overdoing it for gaming lol

woeful agate
#

@viral ore thanks

#

just changed name lol

#

very good job!

viral ore
#

ok, uhh, i think @cursive wharf had some suggestions for your build

#

ill start by asking exactly what type of editing and recording are you planning on doing with this machine?

#

@woeful agate

woeful agate
#

ok

#

ill be recording at 1080p

#

and I don't really know how intensive my editing will be so I can't really answer that @viral ore

viral ore
#

is it video editing?

woeful agate
#

yes

viral ore
#

i just wanted to double check the amount of ram you might need

#

do you know at what resolution?

woeful agate
#

maybe 1080p

viral ore
#

do you know what software you plan on using?

woeful agate
#

uhhh

#

maybe shotcut

unkempt ibex
#

can someone help me with my frames problems im willing to venmo you

viral ore
#

we dont help for payment @unkempt ibex

unkempt ibex
#

oh

viral ore
#

and its against the rules here

unkempt ibex
#

im just very desperate haha

#

oh gotcha

#

Do you thin k you can help me?

viral ore
#

@unkempt ibex just ask, someone might help you

unkempt ibex
#

ok

#

I have an rtx 2080 and i7 8700 and my frames are not that good

woeful agate
#

ok thanks

viral ore
#

@unkempt ibex did you install drivers for your GPU?

#

Is this a new issue?

#

did you change anything before this happened?

unkempt ibex
#

No so i bought a prebuilt about a year ago and i thinky for my rig it should be performing better

#

I can get you the link to it if you would like

viral ore
#

that doesnt answer any of my questions...

unkempt ibex
#

ok

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So its kinda a new issue like i used to get better frames but i have a friend with the same cpu but with trash Gpu and he gets stable 240 frames and i dont understand. I have been going on youtube videos that help you increase fps and performance

viral ore
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so its a new issue

buoyant flame
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Lol

unkempt ibex
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sorta yes

viral ore
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you were getting good FPS, but now, suddenly, you arent?

unkempt ibex
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No ive seen almost a downfall of fps on some games

viral ore
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was anything done to the machine at all before this happened?

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like, a part swap or upgrade

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software install

unkempt ibex
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Might of i went into setting from youtube videos that would help fps

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i might need to get new parts

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do you want the link?

viral ore
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so you changed up some graphics settings, and now its performing worse because of it

unkempt ibex
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i cant really tell that much, i dont even know how much they worked or didnt

viral ore
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i dont care what your pc is, if it was fine before, and you made a config change, then its a software issue

unkempt ibex
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oh gotcha

viral ore
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heres what you do. Get DDU, ill link it shortly, run it, then go and install the latest graphics drivers for your PC

unkempt ibex
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Ok

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Have one more qustion

viral ore
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so this is DDU, it will remove all previous driver installations

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run the application inside, its labeled DDU v18.0.2.3.exe

unkempt ibex
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ok thanks

viral ore
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well, extract the .exe to your desktop first

unkempt ibex
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how do i do that

viral ore
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open the .zip you downloaded

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click and drag

unkempt ibex
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there is no ddu

viral ore
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did that download work?

unkempt ibex
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it just took me to a website with a bunch of links

viral ore
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aight hold on

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its a self extracting zip, it will extract it into a folder, and you can run the application inside

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its labeled "Display Driver Uninstaller.exe"

unkempt ibex
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i hit extract, where would i find it?

viral ore
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wherever the file downloaded to, the folder extracts

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ideally, you would do this in safe mode, but thats too complicated

unkempt ibex
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lmao im sos lost one sec

viral ore
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well, when you find it, you will run it
you will get a pop up, hit Yes
then you will get another pop up, hit ok
you will get another pop up, just hit close at the bottom
yet another pop up, hit ok.

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then select GPU from the drop down box

unkempt ibex
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ok]

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so im trying this again a pop up came up saying extract to, where should i do it to

viral ore
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just click extract

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the default location is fine

unkempt ibex
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ok so where do i go

viral ore
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idk, where did you download the file to??

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go there

unkempt ibex
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says like temp state

viral ore
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put the file you downloaded on the desktop

unkempt ibex
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ok so i got the file on my tesktop

viral ore
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good now run it

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and it will ask to extract

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just click extract

unkempt ibex
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do i just hit gpu then update?

viral ore
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you hit GPU then at the top the Clean and restart

unkempt ibex
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ok and thats it?

viral ore
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then just dont touch anything

unkempt ibex
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ok thanks so much

viral ore
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were not done yet tho

unkempt ibex
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ok what do i do after

viral ore
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did you click Clean and Restart?

unkempt ibex
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yes

viral ore
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and it rebooted?

unkempt ibex
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my pc?

viral ore
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yes

unkempt ibex
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not yet

viral ore
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then just keep waiting

unkempt ibex
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Just did

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I’m using my phone

viral ore
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cool

unkempt ibex
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Back in

viral ore
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does the resolution look like crap?

unkempt ibex
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Yes

viral ore
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good

unkempt ibex
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Does it also mess with your hz

viral ore
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You need to go here and install the latest drivers for your card

unkempt ibex
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Ok

viral ore
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Don't choose autodetect it takes too long

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Just select the card you have

unkempt ibex
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Ok I think it’s done

viral ore
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so, did you download the driver from the nvidia website

unkempt ibex
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yes

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it took my to geforce experience

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is the resolution going to fix its self?

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oh i think when the driver was done it fixed it

viral ore
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Ok, so delete all the leftover files now

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The DDU program and the package you got from nvidia

unkempt ibex
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do i just right click and hit delete?

viral ore
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Yeah that's fine

unkempt ibex
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ok

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now what or is it done?

viral ore
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Now test it

unkempt ibex
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ok

viral ore
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Play a game that ran fine before, but now ran like crap

unkempt ibex
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ok

viral ore
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i assume its fixed?

umbral scaffold
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this is the one

strange garden
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Is it normal to have 2-3 cpu cores running significantly hotter than the rest (~15C)

outer locust
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ok uh https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pbZwHB i got a parts list, this is his build. I know you guys could probably do a better job so, pls help. Could you get a better build under $500 usd with a pc, monitor, and mouse? (already have keyboard)

cursive wharf
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Go completely used. Find a used optiplex and a GPU if you want to keep it simple

outer locust
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He doesn't trust used

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and kinda a gamble

cursive wharf
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Used isnt really that unsafe

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If on eBay, it's quite easy to get your money back

outer locust
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if its all new, what would be the best build that configuration though?

cursive wharf
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go dual channel on RAM, can't do much else with such limited money

viral wren
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will someone help me

sudden turret
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

viral wren
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I got a problem with my new card

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gpu

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hello

buoyant flame
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Say your problem first and people will be more likely to help

viral wren
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ok

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I bought a GTX 1650 low profile card and 500w power supply to make sure the card will work and I HAVE 8 GB OF RAM after I installed the card in my computer it worked on the display before I installed all the drivers it worked but after my PC asked to restart it it worked but didn't get to the windows home screen it just stay black screen how can I fix that

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hello

sacred obsidian
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do you see the bios screen at all

viral wren
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yes I can open bios but I wont open the windows home screen it display a black screen

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now I am not using it on the intergraded graphics card

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I am on the intergraded card

sacred obsidian
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wait you can boot to desktop on the integrated graphics?

viral wren
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yes

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it work normally

sullen spoke
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if you have integrated ye

viral wren
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I want to put my graphics card it is 1650

sullen spoke
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I first set up my pc on integrated

sacred obsidian
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uh you have to change the main output to the GPU i believe but idr how

sullen spoke
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with the gpu in tho I think you need it plugged in gpu