#building-and-recc-chat | Newegg | Page 492

buoyant flame Mar 30, 2020, 6:36 PM

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This is just a rough draft

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Hows it look

deep skiff Mar 30, 2020, 6:40 PM

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i'd avoid a 256gb nvme, you can get a 512/480g sata one for a little more and twice the space

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i'd avoid a 256gb nvme, you can get a 512/480g sata one for a little more and twice the space

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i'd avoid a 256gb nvme, you can get a 512/480g sata one for a little more and twice the space

buoyant flame Mar 30, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Whose build are u referring to?

late pond Mar 30, 2020, 6:41 PM

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The link brings me to a blank build

deep skiff Mar 30, 2020, 6:42 PM

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thats what got messed up rip

buoyant flame Mar 30, 2020, 6:42 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vLH9FG

System Builder

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Is that better?

deep skiff Mar 30, 2020, 6:42 PM

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it brought it to a different build i was fixing lol

late pond Mar 30, 2020, 6:42 PM

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yep thanks!

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lol

buoyant flame Mar 30, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Lol nachos

deep skiff Mar 30, 2020, 6:42 PM

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dont really see any issues with it, looks good

buoyant flame Mar 30, 2020, 6:42 PM

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I just realized that's the wrong ram

deep skiff Mar 30, 2020, 6:43 PM

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the cl18 one?

buoyant flame Mar 30, 2020, 6:43 PM

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There ya gohttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/hmH9FG

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No it was cl18

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O you edited it lol

deep skiff Mar 30, 2020, 6:44 PM

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yeah didnt know which it was and checked

buoyant flame Mar 30, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Ya i switched it for 16 for like 5 bucks

deep skiff Mar 30, 2020, 6:44 PM

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yea looks set now

celest horizon Mar 30, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Might be able to find a TLC + faster controller nvme for boot around that price.

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This was on sale for $70 a week ago, maybe something similar on sale now. https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-black-sn750-nvme-500gb/p/N82E16820250109

buoyant flame Mar 30, 2020, 6:45 PM

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I remember that sale

deep skiff Mar 30, 2020, 6:45 PM

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cheapest decent one i could find was like $80, but also i didnt check all of the cheaper ones

late pond Mar 30, 2020, 6:45 PM

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I think prices are also down because of COVID? Idk tho

buoyant flame Mar 30, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Perhaps we could switch cases for a better boot drive

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Not really they're about the same as usual rn. Nothing special

celest horizon Mar 30, 2020, 6:46 PM

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ddr4 and some nvme drives seem to have gone up in price in the last few months.

deep skiff Mar 30, 2020, 6:47 PM

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yeah and the ssd market fluctuated a lot before too

buoyant flame Mar 30, 2020, 6:47 PM

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That same ram kit in that list was like 67 a couple of weeks ago

late pond Mar 30, 2020, 6:48 PM

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oof

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We'll see haha

lyric thistle Mar 30, 2020, 6:48 PM

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I was looking at Aegis DDR3 1600 and it went from a yummy 60 something to an iffy 70 something :(

buoyant flame Mar 30, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Feelsbad

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Also why did you put a random wraith max in your list lol

lyric thistle Mar 30, 2020, 6:49 PM

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I want ram with at least a basic heat spreader

karmic anchor Mar 30, 2020, 7:00 PM

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i7-9700K or i7-8700K

deep skiff Mar 30, 2020, 7:00 PM

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what prices?

karmic anchor Mar 30, 2020, 7:00 PM

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380

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for 97

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same for 87

dry ridge Mar 30, 2020, 7:01 PM

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8700K

deep skiff Mar 30, 2020, 7:01 PM

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9700k

dry ridge Mar 30, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Better Imc

karmic anchor Mar 30, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Okay

deep skiff Mar 30, 2020, 7:04 PM

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@karmic anchor what are you using it for? in gaming the 9700k wins consistency unless you oc both of them a lot https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3421-intel-i7-9700k-review-benchmark-vs-8700k-and-more

Intel i7-9700K Review vs. 8700K, 9900K, 2700, and More

Intel’s new i7-9700K is available for about $400 to $430, which lands it between the 9900K – priced at around $550, on a good day – and the 8700K’s $370 price-point. We got ours for $400, looking to test the new 8C/8T CPU versus the not-that-old 8700K and the hyperthreaded 990...

karmic anchor Mar 30, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Yeah, Im using it for gaming

deep skiff Mar 30, 2020, 7:05 PM

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i'd go with either 9700k or ryzen 3600 + better gpu (unless you have the motherboard already), 8c/8t is still good for gaming but in the future games will use more threads

karmic anchor Mar 30, 2020, 7:07 PM

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So should I just go for 8700k for future proofing?

latent storm Mar 30, 2020, 7:13 PM

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yeah

latent storm Mar 30, 2020, 7:41 PM

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@buoyant flame ik this was like a while ago, but what do you mean by the tomahawk having a bad sound and network card

deep skiff Mar 30, 2020, 7:51 PM

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8700k is also 6c/12t, so you lose cores too

latent bronze Mar 30, 2020, 7:56 PM

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But if he finds one for cheap it would be worth it

deep skiff Mar 30, 2020, 7:56 PM

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yeah but theyre both 380

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but assuming he hasnt bought the motherboard yet, personally i'd go ryzen 3600+ a higher tiered gpu, a 9900k+2080 super does worse than a ryzen 3600 + 2080 ti in games

latent bronze Mar 30, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Depends which games though

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@deep skiff You got to ask him if he is buying it new or used and if used from where and how much

buoyant flame Mar 30, 2020, 8:22 PM

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@latent storm I was mistaken about the network card but it doesn't have the best sound card. Question is your audio gear mini jack or usb?

latent storm Mar 30, 2020, 10:59 PM

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the one i use right now is actually broken but i use a hyperx cloud II and uhh it comes as mini jack but comes with like a usb thing you can plug it into then plug into computer

latent storm Mar 30, 2020, 11:45 PM

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How hard is cable management for a first timer

lyric thistle Mar 30, 2020, 11:47 PM

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it should be okay, provided you have a roomy enough case and tackle it one piece at a time

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I've yet to do it, my computers were never made with cable management in mind

sharp viper Mar 31, 2020, 1:45 AM

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So currently I have a computer with a fx-4300, 1050ti, 8gb ddr3, and a gigabyte ga-78lmt-s2 and I was wondering what mobo, and processor to upgrade to

lime forge Mar 31, 2020, 1:47 AM

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ryzen 5 1600af and any b450 board will be nice

foggy hazel Mar 31, 2020, 1:48 AM

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@sharp viper what is your budget?

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and what other parts do you have?

lime forge Mar 31, 2020, 1:48 AM

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also with what i recommended, youd need to upgrade ram too

foggy hazel Mar 31, 2020, 1:48 AM

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specifically, what harddrive/sdd? what case? what psu?

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@lime forge you are big into minecraft right?

lime forge Mar 31, 2020, 1:49 AM

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yea

foggy hazel Mar 31, 2020, 1:49 AM

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could you look in #graphics-cards ?

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sounds like igpu is doing the lifting, but i know just about nothing about minecraft

lime forge Mar 31, 2020, 1:50 AM

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sure

spice inlet Mar 31, 2020, 3:36 AM

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What the best ram to get for 90$ or less

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 3:37 AM

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2x8 (16GB)?

spice inlet Mar 31, 2020, 3:38 AM

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Yes

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 3:38 AM

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are you looking for DDR4, for an AMD or Intel CPU?

narrow rose Mar 31, 2020, 3:38 AM

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2x8 DDR4 16GB 3600 CL16 should be around there

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 3:38 AM

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:>

spice inlet Mar 31, 2020, 3:39 AM

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My CPU is a i7 9700f

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And also do I need to have a graphics card installed in order for my PC to run since my CPU has no integrated graphics

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 3:46 AM

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yes, I believe so

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can't do much without a video signal

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you can pick up a cheap working GT 710, or something like that for troubleshooting purposes

spice inlet Mar 31, 2020, 3:48 AM

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So what CPU can I get for about the same money that still uses lga 1151 socket that can run with no gpu

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 3:53 AM

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the i7-9700K has UHD 630

spice inlet Mar 31, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Ok thx

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 3:54 AM

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may I ask, why do you want to swap a similar CPU with no iGPU, with one that does?

sharp viper Mar 31, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Sorry guys forgot I had notifications off

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I have a 1050ti and I also have a 1tb hard drive... I probably need to invest in a ssd

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 4:14 AM

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how much do you have on your hard drive?

sharp viper Mar 31, 2020, 4:14 AM

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And yes I know I need new ram. I plan on doing 16gb ddr4

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It’s about half way

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 4:16 AM

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it can be relatively simple to clone a large drive onto a smaller drive, by doing some moving/deleting of stuff that isn't necessary

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I cloned my 1TB hard drive to a 500GB WD BLUE 3D NAND

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I had 478GB of stuff on my drive, so I started looking around for stuff that I could move off the drive or delete, and I got it down to about 360GB iirc

sharp viper Mar 31, 2020, 4:17 AM

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I might stick with the hard drive for a few more months with the hard drive due to money but I definitely plan on getting an ssd

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 4:18 AM

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it's a great investment :)

sharp viper Mar 31, 2020, 4:18 AM

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My main goal now is a mobo, cpu, and ram

spice aspen Mar 31, 2020, 4:18 AM

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So this might be a ignorant question but does anyone know if the RX 580 fits in the Thermaltake Versa H18 case?

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 4:18 AM

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ok, that makes sense

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I think it will fit perfectly

sharp viper Mar 31, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Yeah I got it for $300 and it included a desk keyboard and mouse

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 4:19 AM

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it's a long and spacious case

sharp viper Mar 31, 2020, 4:19 AM

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And monitor

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 4:19 AM

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:o

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lotta kit

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do you have a water cooling radiator @spice aspen ?

sharp viper Mar 31, 2020, 4:20 AM

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I wasn’t sure if I should buy it but everyone told me to jump on the deal

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 4:20 AM

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that could limit the length of the GPU you can put in there

spice aspen Mar 31, 2020, 4:20 AM

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No, I'm just using 4 120mm case fans

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 4:20 AM

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sounds like you got some decent stuff

sharp viper Mar 31, 2020, 4:21 AM

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I should be fine with a 1050ti from what I’ve heard

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 4:21 AM

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lemme see if I can find the Versa H18's GPU length info

sharp viper Mar 31, 2020, 4:21 AM

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It’s basically carrying my system

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 4:21 AM

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1050Ti is good

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what CPU do you have atm?

sharp viper Mar 31, 2020, 4:21 AM

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Fx-4300

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Not the greatest lol

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 4:22 AM

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hehe

sharp viper Mar 31, 2020, 4:22 AM

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It does run both games but it has trouble with wwz. The cpu jumps to 100% and slows my system significantly

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Most games*

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 4:23 AM

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ah

sharp viper Mar 31, 2020, 4:24 AM

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I was originally going to build, but I’d still be buying parts

spice aspen Mar 31, 2020, 4:25 AM

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Are there any building tips you guys can give me? Building my first system as soon as the parts get to my house.

foggy hazel Mar 31, 2020, 4:25 AM

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take your time, dont rush, read the manual

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and know this:

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There are no stupid questions, only silly answers.

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 4:26 AM

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I'm looking at the xfx rx580, it looks like it's 270mm long, compared to the card length support of the Versa H18 which is 350mm

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https://www.xfxforce.com/gpus/amd-radeon-tm-rx-580-gts-xxx-edition-8gb-3

https://www.thermaltake.com/C_00003148.htm

Versa H18 Window Micro Case

Versa H18 is a M-ATX micro case with an acrylic window and one preinstalled standard 120mm rear fan is included.

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dimensions can be found in the specifications tab on both

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so it should fit nicely in there

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what rx580 did you choose?

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I looked at the xfx one because they are chonky :p

spice aspen Mar 31, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Let me pull that up actually lol. I betrayed new egg because I couldn't find a cpu that would arrive in time with the rest of my parts so I had to order off amazon

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And I did get the XFX Radeon

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 4:30 AM

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ah nice

spice aspen Mar 31, 2020, 4:34 AM

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I appreciate your help alot though. I was worried that my hardware wouldnt fit due to the case not appearing when I tried to add it to the build on PCpartpicker

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 4:38 AM

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you're welcome :>

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I've been wanting to get the H18 myself

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not for a while though, I don't have any computer to put in it

spice aspen Mar 31, 2020, 5:13 AM

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The case just looks so good that I couldn't resist

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 5:14 AM

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doesn't it though :p

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great airflow too, so it's a win-win

jagged ember Mar 31, 2020, 6:13 AM

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If anyone's still up, what do you think about this build?

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/FluffyShadowman/saved/#view=8wWJf7

Saved Part Lists

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 6:19 AM

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looks like the prices of the WD Blue 500 GB m.2 SATA drive are lower than what's on the PCP list

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nvm, looks like it's CAD

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don't mind me xd

jagged ember Mar 31, 2020, 6:20 AM

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I've heard WD drives aren't the best

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How true is that statement?

narrow rose Mar 31, 2020, 6:21 AM

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not very

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I mean samsung makes the best drives for the most money

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 6:22 AM

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not :)

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WD Green is the worst WD offers

jagged ember Mar 31, 2020, 6:22 AM

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right, so definitely don't go for WD green

narrow rose Mar 31, 2020, 6:23 AM

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but they still make decent drives other than the green ones and are a good company

lyric thistle Mar 31, 2020, 6:23 AM

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Blue is a perfect SATA drive though

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perfect enough, and not Samsung price

narrow rose Mar 31, 2020, 6:30 AM

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I'm not going to lie all of my m.2 drives are samsungs

jagged ember Mar 31, 2020, 6:32 AM

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Yeah I don't think I'm gonna need M.2 drives

marble rover Mar 31, 2020, 7:01 AM

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https://secure.newegg.com/wishlist/sd/c42y2rbtSXUHsTwCq4axzA==

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That would be my better option @jagged ember

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and that includes a case!

jagged ember Mar 31, 2020, 7:06 AM

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That's true, it does!

marble rover Mar 31, 2020, 7:06 AM

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i got you man 😉 @jagged ember

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@jagged ember pretty lucky, just built this PC for my friend

jagged ember Mar 31, 2020, 7:20 AM

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I was just looking up the differences between the motherboards

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wait hang on

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@marble rover What about this?
Ryzen 5 3600
B450-F
G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB DDR4 3200MHz
MSI RTX2060
Corsair RMx 750W Gold
Seagate Barracuda 2TB
250GB WD Blue SATA III SSD

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Got a budget around $1000 USD so

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oof I forgot the case again

tepid basalt Mar 31, 2020, 7:34 AM

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why such a big psu?

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is it on sale for a good price or sth?

jagged ember Mar 31, 2020, 7:34 AM

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everyone's always saying you need a bigger PSU

tepid basalt Mar 31, 2020, 7:34 AM

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well it does help if you wanna upgrade in the future

marble rover Mar 31, 2020, 7:34 AM

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@jagged ember NO

tepid basalt Mar 31, 2020, 7:34 AM

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just if your budget is tight

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it's not advisable to buy big one

jagged ember Mar 31, 2020, 7:35 AM

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ah that's fair

tepid basalt Mar 31, 2020, 7:35 AM

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ofc you shouldn't buy a crappy psu cuz it may fry the whole system

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but 750w for r5 3600 + rtx 2060 is a little too much...

marble rover Mar 31, 2020, 7:36 AM

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get the better CPU if you can

tepid basalt Mar 31, 2020, 7:36 AM

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yeah

marble rover Mar 31, 2020, 7:36 AM

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that is a long term deal

tepid basalt Mar 31, 2020, 7:36 AM

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the extra money when you downgrade the psu can land you a 3700x

little osprey Mar 31, 2020, 7:36 AM

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@jagged ember I'm running a similar set up and I'm running a 550W

marble rover Mar 31, 2020, 7:37 AM

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the PSU doesn't need to be a 750, idk who told you that

little osprey Mar 31, 2020, 7:37 AM

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Exact same cpu, exact same gpu, 32gb ram

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And only 550w

tepid basalt Mar 31, 2020, 7:37 AM

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I've seen ppl running 2080s with a 700w totally fine

jagged ember Mar 31, 2020, 7:37 AM

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What about a corsair CX550M

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550W

tepid basalt Mar 31, 2020, 7:38 AM

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sounds good

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then you can land a rtx 2070 now

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or just buy a nice case with that money

jagged ember Mar 31, 2020, 7:39 AM

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i'll just build my case out of cardboard

tepid basalt Mar 31, 2020, 7:39 AM

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a fancy aio

jagged ember Mar 31, 2020, 7:39 AM

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add a piece of plastic as the window

little osprey Mar 31, 2020, 7:39 AM

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Not recommended

marble rover Mar 31, 2020, 7:39 AM

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aio would be overkill

jagged ember Mar 31, 2020, 7:40 AM

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pff not like it'll catch fire or anything

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~~it actually probably will~~

little osprey Mar 31, 2020, 7:41 AM

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I have a tv stand(wooden) I've been thinking of turning into a desktop

tepid basalt Mar 31, 2020, 7:41 AM

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~~nah it won't~~

jagged ember Mar 31, 2020, 7:41 AM

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Does the brand the GPU comes from matter?

tepid basalt Mar 31, 2020, 7:41 AM

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kinda

jagged ember Mar 31, 2020, 7:41 AM

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MSI?

tepid basalt Mar 31, 2020, 7:41 AM

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or more like

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the product line

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ventus and mech kinda suck because they're budget

little osprey Mar 31, 2020, 7:42 AM

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That's what I'm running 😅

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Or will be

tepid basalt Mar 31, 2020, 7:42 AM

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well, if you have no choice then it's fine

little osprey Mar 31, 2020, 7:42 AM

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Kinda dont

tepid basalt Mar 31, 2020, 7:42 AM

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and at least msi does nvidia better than amd

jagged ember Mar 31, 2020, 7:42 AM

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perfect, then I'll go for an MSI

little osprey Mar 31, 2020, 7:43 AM

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If I don't do the tv stand idea, I'll be getting the Neo Cube

tepid basalt Mar 31, 2020, 7:44 AM

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this is what I'm talking about

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jagged ember Mar 31, 2020, 7:44 AM

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TV stand sounds pretty sick

tepid basalt Mar 31, 2020, 7:44 AM

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sorry for the local price

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but you can see the rx5700xt mech oc is the same price as the rx5700 gaming x

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or more like

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cheaper

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clearly tells how bad mech and ventus is

jagged ember Mar 31, 2020, 7:45 AM

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very interesting

little osprey Mar 31, 2020, 7:46 AM

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Fluffy if you want I can share my tv stand

jagged ember Mar 31, 2020, 7:46 AM

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if you can get a VM running

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I'll just share your computer instead

little osprey Mar 31, 2020, 7:46 AM

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?

jagged ember Mar 31, 2020, 7:46 AM

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~~Then I won't even need to build my own desktop lmao~~

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and by extension we also share the tv stand

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Right, so just to finalize my build;

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Ryzen 5 3600
B450-F
G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB DDR4 3200MHz
Seagate Barracuda 2TB
250GB WD Blue SATA III SSD
MSI RTX2070
Corsair CX550M

tepid basalt Mar 31, 2020, 7:50 AM

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looking good

jagged ember Mar 31, 2020, 7:57 AM

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Thanks a lot for your help!

foggy hazel Mar 31, 2020, 8:19 AM

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@jagged ember if you can, dont get the cx-m

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just get the regular cx if your budget is that tight

jagged ember Mar 31, 2020, 8:20 AM

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what's the difference between the CX-M vs just the CX

foggy hazel Mar 31, 2020, 8:21 AM

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cx-m is semi-modular

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the cx is not

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for the cx-m you are also rolling the dice and hopping you dont have a unit that will give you coilwhine at the same time

jagged ember Mar 31, 2020, 8:22 AM

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oh didn't know that was a potential issue

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but apart from that and messy cables there isn't much difference between the two otherwise?

foggy hazel Mar 31, 2020, 8:23 AM

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iirc, no

jagged ember Mar 31, 2020, 8:23 AM

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nice, thanks for the heads up

foggy hazel Mar 31, 2020, 8:23 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FdRFf7/corsair-cx-2017-550w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020121-na <- thats the 550 cx model

Corsair CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

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IF you were okay with paying close to 90usd for the cxm, maybe you are okay with stepping up to the AMP instead?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Y3bCmG/phanteks-amp-550-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p550g_us01 <- this one

Phanteks AMP 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

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that is on all fronts a much better PSU than either of the two others

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also comes with a 10 year warranty

jagged ember Mar 31, 2020, 8:26 AM

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warranty does sound nice lol

latent storm Mar 31, 2020, 2:40 PM

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would it be a bad idea to change my entire build because i want a red and white color scheme

sullen spoke Mar 31, 2020, 3:03 PM

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yes, unless your hardware is old and you want to upgrade

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spray paint or hydrodipping can also be a friend if you don't break anything 😉

sudden turret Mar 31, 2020, 3:20 PM

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@tawdry ice ask your questions here.

tawdry ice Mar 31, 2020, 3:25 PM

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thank you hello I;m trying to work from home and my logical processors is at 2 and i need it to be a 4 can anyone help me with this

sudden turret Mar 31, 2020, 3:33 PM

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please give more information on your current computer.

tawdry ice Mar 31, 2020, 3:33 PM

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its a hp

sudden turret Mar 31, 2020, 3:33 PM

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model?

tawdry ice Mar 31, 2020, 3:35 PM

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endor ID:Intel Corporation|Name: Intel64 Family 6 Model 55 Stepping 8|Family: 0|Frequency: 2408

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vendor

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did that help

sudden turret Mar 31, 2020, 3:35 PM

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no lol 😄

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isn't there a model number on the case.

tawdry ice Mar 31, 2020, 3:37 PM

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19-2113w

sudden turret Mar 31, 2020, 3:38 PM

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so an all in one

tawdry ice Mar 31, 2020, 3:38 PM

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yes

sudden turret Mar 31, 2020, 3:38 PM

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those are a bit more complicated to upgrade.

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and the processor is not upgradable on that model.

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tawdry ice Mar 31, 2020, 3:39 PM

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thank you

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can i get a part to make is be a 4 instead of a 2

sudden turret Mar 31, 2020, 3:43 PM

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it's not upgradable

tawdry ice Mar 31, 2020, 3:43 PM

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i understand but is there anything i can buy

sudden turret Mar 31, 2020, 3:43 PM

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a new up to date PC or laptop even.

tawdry ice Mar 31, 2020, 3:47 PM

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ok

buoyant flame Mar 31, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Do they still even make celerons anymore?

sudden turret Mar 31, 2020, 4:01 PM

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not sure.

narrow rose Mar 31, 2020, 5:45 PM

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they were still making them in 2018 not sure about now

tranquil dust Mar 31, 2020, 7:30 PM

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no

viral ore Mar 31, 2020, 7:34 PM

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no

astral flame Mar 31, 2020, 7:34 PM

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no

buoyant flame Mar 31, 2020, 7:37 PM

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no

sullen spoke Mar 31, 2020, 7:40 PM

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no?

sharp viper Mar 31, 2020, 7:51 PM

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I don’t think so

latent storm Mar 31, 2020, 8:04 PM

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alright so i have a dilemma

foggy hazel Mar 31, 2020, 8:04 PM

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@buoyant flame they do.

stoic island Mar 31, 2020, 8:04 PM

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go ahead

latent storm Mar 31, 2020, 8:05 PM

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i am in love with razer’s quartz lineup and want to use it however i don’t know how i would make it look good with a pc setup

buoyant flame Mar 31, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Oh ok

latent storm Mar 31, 2020, 8:05 PM

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like idk what colors to do

buoyant flame Mar 31, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Thx naed

stoic island Mar 31, 2020, 8:05 PM

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ehm

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did you see the stuff GN did videos on?

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lemme find it

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this case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62oPBdI9CSA

YouTube

Gamers Nexus

Best Case 2020: Yeston Cute Pet Case Review & Micro-ATX Build

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The "Best Case of 2020" t...

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this cooler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDQ0lOXp-v4

YouTube

Gamers Nexus

"Pinkflow" Liquid Cooler from AliExpress: Review of ID Cooling's Pi...

The ID Cooling Pinkflow can be picked up for about $100, making it a standard-priced closed-loop liquid cooler (AIO) that has one unique feature: It's pink and white.
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latent storm Mar 31, 2020, 8:08 PM

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see that’s the other part of the problem, i don’t want an entirely pink pc 😳

stoic island Mar 31, 2020, 8:08 PM

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bruh

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then why razers line

foggy hazel Mar 31, 2020, 8:08 PM

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because he likes some of it

stoic island Mar 31, 2020, 8:09 PM

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I'm just not sure of any color scheme pink goes with

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thats why I suggest pink only

foggy hazel Mar 31, 2020, 8:09 PM

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black

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white

stoic island Mar 31, 2020, 8:09 PM

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I'm just not sure

foggy hazel Mar 31, 2020, 8:10 PM

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@latent storm lets play around with the concept/idea a bit

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considering that the Quartz line only has a few parts that are relevant for you

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mouse/keyboard/headset/microphone/basestation

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the starting question becomes: what case would potentially got with that

latent storm Mar 31, 2020, 8:20 PM

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i wouldn’t want it to be too pink so probably just a black one, maybe just the one i have now?

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what about white? would a white pc with pink peripherals work well?

foggy hazel Mar 31, 2020, 8:25 PM

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you are the one that has to answer that question

latent storm Mar 31, 2020, 8:38 PM

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i mean like would they compliment each other, i’m not good with colors

stoic island Mar 31, 2020, 8:38 PM

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should be nice

latent storm Mar 31, 2020, 8:47 PM

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yeah one problem, i just looked again and they don’t have one TKL keyboard in quartz

vagrant gulch Mar 31, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Hey I got a quick question. How can I tell if the ryzen 1600 processor is the af one? Does it depend on the mpn?

stoic island Mar 31, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Theres 2 kinds, AE, and AF, amazon makes it easy to tell, but you can prob tell by looking at reviews and such on the product.

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vagrant gulch Mar 31, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Ah ok, thanks. Didn't notice since I was focusing on it being after 1600 lol

stoic island Mar 31, 2020, 9:02 PM

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on newegg its a bit harder to tell, but since 1600af is 12nm, find the listing with 12nm

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vagrant gulch Mar 31, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Ah I see. Will keep this in mind. Thanks.

stoic island Mar 31, 2020, 9:04 PM

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You're welcome.

cursive wharf Mar 31, 2020, 9:50 PM

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@stoic island if you search model number does Newegg view the spec sheet/description to find the model number? Might be easier

little osprey Mar 31, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Hello guys I need a bit of help. My gpu is a Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics and I'm looking to buy a new power supply. Would a https://www.newegg.ca/phanteks-amp-series-ph-p650g-us01-650w/p/N82E16817987009 be a good fit?
(Phanteks AMP Series 650W 80PLUS Gold, ATX Power Supply, Fully Modular, Hybrid Mode, Silent fan, Revolt PRO LINK Certified)

stoic island Mar 31, 2020, 10:08 PM

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@cursive wharf 1600af isnt mentioned at all in the spec sheet for that listing so idk

cursive wharf Mar 31, 2020, 10:20 PM

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@little osprey it's fine, tho I suggest saving the money and getting a 550w AMP instead. No real need for 650w

latent storm Mar 31, 2020, 11:42 PM

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should i get a reference 2060S or a third party?

foggy hazel Mar 31, 2020, 11:42 PM

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depends on what you are going for in temp/looks

little osprey Mar 31, 2020, 11:53 PM

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tx guys

latent storm Apr 1, 2020, 12:38 AM

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well most (if not all) of my other components are black but i really like how the reference card’s cooler looks

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and this probably isn’t a good mentality but as long as the card doesn’t overheat i don’t really care if the reference one gets a couple degrees warmer

late kelp Apr 1, 2020, 1:11 AM

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is there any trusted sites that build custom pre built gaming desktops.. i know of a few like cyberpower, ibuypower, origin pc.. etc. but from your experience which should one go with...

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and also good deals ^^

narrow rose Apr 1, 2020, 1:24 AM

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@late kelp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVvuAz86Gy8

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Of course while it doesnt suck as he said the price sure does...

late kelp Apr 1, 2020, 1:27 AM

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yeah $2000

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hmm

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thanks either way

narrow rose Apr 1, 2020, 1:29 AM

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lol yeah just build one $700ish we will help you

late kelp Apr 1, 2020, 1:30 AM

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its for a friend, his budget is like $900 ish so yeah i will see what i can do

grizzled bloom Apr 1, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Gotta question y’all.

narrow rose Apr 1, 2020, 1:31 AM

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shoot

grizzled bloom Apr 1, 2020, 1:32 AM

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I’m wanting to build my first pc got any recommendations.

narrow rose Apr 1, 2020, 1:32 AM

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budget?

grizzled bloom Apr 1, 2020, 1:33 AM

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$800-$1000

narrow rose Apr 1, 2020, 1:37 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

System Builder

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I got a little spendy let me trim a little

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could drop the extra 2tb drive and get a cheaper psu to get down to $1000

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or could go with a 1660S instead of the 2060S

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and get closer to $900ish

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I'm not good at picking cheap PSUs though

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@foggy hazel what would be a reliable cheaper option for PSU here?

cursive wharf Apr 1, 2020, 2:23 AM

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@narrow rose you done a goof, no list ID in URL

narrow rose Apr 1, 2020, 2:23 AM

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doh

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4Kxgp8

System Builder

cursive wharf Apr 1, 2020, 2:24 AM

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As of rn cheapest decent fully modular PSU is Phanteks AMP and cheapest decent non modular is Corsair CX

celest horizon Apr 1, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Not bad, but $10 more buys a bit of a better ssd, EX920 would be real nice.

cursive wharf Apr 1, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Also

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TUF plus gaming is bad, TUF pro gaming is good. Easy mistake

narrow rose Apr 1, 2020, 2:27 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GcnpNq

System Builder

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fixed

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really thought that would be closer to $1000 though

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just cant seem to squeeze that 3600/2060S for $1000

cursive wharf Apr 1, 2020, 2:35 AM

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You have to drop some of the nice to haves
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/synpNq

System Builder

stoic island Apr 1, 2020, 2:37 AM

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might need some case fans

narrow rose Apr 1, 2020, 2:37 AM

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it hurts

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so many nice to haves... gone

buoyant flame Apr 1, 2020, 2:52 AM

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You could still fit a crucial p1 500gb in hei lists instead or the sata ssd

oak moss Apr 1, 2020, 3:14 AM

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has anyone built inside the NZXT H700i ?

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 3:21 AM

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personally, i would rather go without the 2tb HDD and start with a decent case or a bigger ssd

tepid basalt Apr 1, 2020, 4:58 AM

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yeah

little osprey Apr 1, 2020, 7:54 AM

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Have you checked the mobo for any compatibility issues for the nvme drive I think that the m.2 slot is Sata 3 only comment on this if I’m wrong since i haven’t had a lot of experience yet with any of asus’s products

cold sorrel Apr 1, 2020, 1:08 PM

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Is it sad that about all I know about the new PC I want to build is I want to use a Ryzen 3600 and an Nvidia GPU?

jovial quest Apr 1, 2020, 1:14 PM

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is this a good setup want to build a pc some time

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/johnas/saved/#view=xKHp23

Saved Part Lists

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 1:45 PM

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@cold sorrel if that is all you know, that is all you know :)

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as time passes, you will hopefully get the rest of the details sorted out

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@jovial quest any special reason for the tomahawk max choice?

cold sorrel Apr 1, 2020, 1:47 PM

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I just want to roll with Nvidia for graphics because I had good luck with that last time. (I have a Geforce 1060 right now. Due to it being in a laptop, can't really reuse it.)

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 1:48 PM

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you dont have to jusitfy your choices as such :)

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if that is what you want, that is what you want

buoyant flame Apr 1, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Specs @little osprey

cold sorrel Apr 1, 2020, 2:34 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dkFXFG
Is what I'm thinking about, but is not complete or final.

next kestrel Apr 1, 2020, 2:47 PM

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might wanna go for a crucial nvme? theyre almost the same price

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also that is an expensive mobo

little osprey Apr 1, 2020, 2:51 PM

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@buoyant flame ryzen 7 3700x, msi rtx 2070 ventus asus, x570 p motherboard, 32gb of corsair 3200mhz ram, xpg 512gb m.2ssd, 1tb Seagate, endermax 600watt gold psu, deepcool castle 360aio, 6 corsair ll120 white fans, lian li pc-011 dynamic, V1 tech custom backplate.

Perifials are corsair k70 mk.2 low profile silver switches, logitech g502 wired, dell 2k 144hz display.

cold sorrel Apr 1, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Like I said, I'm not fully set on anything but the processor and I like the case. I do want a motherboard with Wi-fi so I don't have to bother with an adapter taking up a USB slot or card eating a slot on the motherboard.

jovial quest Apr 1, 2020, 3:16 PM

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@foggy hazel i choose the romahawk max because it doesnt need a bios update. Is there anything better you can recommend

harsh sapphire Apr 1, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Question for you experts: What’s the “fastest” RAM my laptop will support? Laptop maxes out at DDR4 2666Mhz. Does NOT support XMP. Stock RAM is CL 19. Are any CL less than 19 supported @ 2666Mhz and no XMP? Motherboard is CFL Charizard CFS v1.26. Thank you

viral ore Apr 1, 2020, 3:19 PM

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i dont think your laptop will see any real noticeable perf gains from ram speed. 2666 is fine, dont worry about CL

foggy bough Apr 1, 2020, 3:19 PM

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guys is a rtx 2080 ti i9 9900kf build for 520 euros ok?

viral ore Apr 1, 2020, 3:19 PM

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fine build ig, your gonna be paying more than that though

foggy bough Apr 1, 2020, 3:20 PM

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u talkin about me?

viral ore Apr 1, 2020, 3:20 PM

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yeah

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your gonna pay more like 2000 euros

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 3:20 PM

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@jovial quest depending on your other needs, and if you are not 100% fixated on ATX as the formfactor

foggy bough Apr 1, 2020, 3:20 PM

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its on amazon tho

viral ore Apr 1, 2020, 3:20 PM

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well then link it

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odds are its too good to be true

foggy bough Apr 1, 2020, 3:21 PM

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ya then i dont buy ut

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it

viral ore Apr 1, 2020, 3:21 PM

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good, its not real

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 3:21 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y3prxr/asus-tuf-b450m-pro-gaming-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-b450m-pro-gaming <- this comes to mind @jovial quest

Asus TUF B450M-PRO GAMING Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

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https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/TUF-B450M-PRO-GAMING/

ASUS USA

TUF B450M-PRO GAMING | Motherboards | ASUS USA

TUF B450M-PRO GAMING

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@foggy bough just because something is on amazon, does not make it true or right

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also, on the front of the PSU, the Phantek AMP comes to mind, even if you insist on going 650 (which is fairly overkill), it is still cheaper and the same quality

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4xGnTW/phanteks-amp-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p650g_us01

Phanteks AMP 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

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those two changes could bring you that much closer to a either a bigger ssd OR a higher model of cpu @jovial quest

jovial quest Apr 1, 2020, 3:35 PM

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@foggy hazel i dont need it to be atx

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 3:38 PM

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your old list was 1088 usd

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so there is a saving of about 30-ish usd to be had

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and you end up with a better mainboard

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this brings up the next point. Why the AIO?

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and holy heck, i just cannot do math today it seems.

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IF you are willing to put forth a bit more cash, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sL44Gc <- that becomes an option

System Builder

cold sorrel Apr 1, 2020, 4:05 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p9Wfk6
I haven't added a GPU yet because I'm debating between whether I should shoot for a 2060 or just settle for a 1660 right now. Anything better than a 2060 is more than I feel comfortable spending on one component. I'm also kind of clueless about power supplies. I could also be talked into a different mobo, as long as it has wifi (and does not require me owning a previous Ryzen CPU to update the mobo BIOS for a 3600)

jovial quest Apr 1, 2020, 4:06 PM

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@foggy hazel the thing is pc part picker doesnt have all the things i was thinking of.

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 4:07 PM

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@jovial quest you mean, they didnt pull prices or? (because pulling prices can just be done by manually adding them, as you can see i did in the link above)

jovial quest Apr 1, 2020, 4:07 PM

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No they just dont have it

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https://www.computersalg.dk/checkout/basket?viewsource= heres the basket from the store that i use for looking at the parts

Computersalg.dk alt inden for Elektronik, IT, Bolig, Hvidevarer, Husholdning, Hus, Have, Sport, leg, fritid, kontor og lager. Altid mere end 500.000 varer online!

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its danish btw (because i am that)

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and the prices in america isnt the same as i denmark

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and stuff like the inter-tech w-III case cant be found in america (i think)

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@foggy hazel

harsh sapphire Apr 1, 2020, 4:11 PM

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i dont think your laptop will see any real noticeable perf gains from ram speed. 2666 is fine, dont worry about CL
@viral ore
Thanks. As an example, I tried some 2666 CL 14 and it’s speed was reduced to 2400. Trying to figure out what the minimum CL threshold is while staying at 2666.

viral ore Apr 1, 2020, 4:12 PM

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i mean, what cpu does this laptop have?

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i assume its an intel, which doesnt really see huge benefits from ram speed

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and lower latency doesnt always translate into more performance

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 4:15 PM

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@jovial quest i know their site, Dansker her også :)

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and your link is not the actual link

jovial quest Apr 1, 2020, 4:16 PM

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@foggy hazel fedt nok

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frick

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 4:16 PM

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just grab a screenshot?

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or try mailing the list to yourself (if they support that)

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that should also give you a proper link

jovial quest Apr 1, 2020, 4:17 PM

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the problem is that i cant get the ripjaws V 3600 for aoround the 86 dollars in here

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foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 4:18 PM

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let me just have a look at their site, might be something comparable

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also, that TR2 psu has to go

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it is NOT a good unit

jovial quest Apr 1, 2020, 4:19 PM

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ok

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i am still new to all of this

harsh sapphire Apr 1, 2020, 4:20 PM

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i assume its an intel, which doesnt really see huge benefits from ram speed
@viral ore I7-8750H. I didn’t know that about Intel cpu’s.

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 4:20 PM

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there are no stupid questions, only silly answers @jovial quest

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if you are more comfortable with taking it in a pm, we can do that?

jovial quest Apr 1, 2020, 4:21 PM

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i mean i dont carre

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being here

viral ore Apr 1, 2020, 4:25 PM

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@harsh sapphire honestly, 2666 CL 19 is good enough, lowering latency isnt worth the extra cash

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 4:26 PM

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https://www.computersalg.dk/i/5776986/patriot-extreme-performance-viper-4 <- this is comparable to the Ripjaws @jovial quest

ComputerSalg.dk : Patriot Extreme Performance Viper 4 Blackout Seri...

Patriot Extreme Performance Viper 4 Blackout Series - DDR4 - 16 GB: 2 x 8 GB - DIMM 288-PIN - 3600 MHz / PC4-28800 - CL17 - 1.35 V - ikke-ECC - sort | Computersalg.dk : Alt inden for bærbare, computere, tablets, ipad, grafikkort, servere, kamera, gopro, gps, print, iphone. Alt...

jovial quest Apr 1, 2020, 4:26 PM

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they look very good

harsh sapphire Apr 1, 2020, 4:28 PM

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@harsh sapphire honestly, 2666 CL 19 is good enough, lowering latency isnt worth the extra cash
@viral ore Understood. Exactly the info I came here for. Much appreciated.

jovial quest Apr 1, 2020, 4:29 PM

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@foggy hazel so this would be better overall

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foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 4:30 PM

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aye, by a very wide margin imo

viral ore Apr 1, 2020, 4:30 PM

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on desktops, latency matters a little more, but considering you will be hampered by thermals before latency in a laptop, it doesnt matter @harsh sapphire

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 4:30 PM

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it also doesnt hurt that the AMP has a 10 year warranty

jovial quest Apr 1, 2020, 4:31 PM

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ohh i dindt know that

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that is super good

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 4:31 PM

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(also, thank you for reminding me of how utterly horrible their site is :D )

jovial quest Apr 1, 2020, 4:31 PM

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you are welcome

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 4:31 PM

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:D

jovial quest Apr 1, 2020, 4:32 PM

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i will buy from different websites

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 4:32 PM

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what is it, that makes you want that case?

jovial quest Apr 1, 2020, 4:32 PM

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the 3 fans you getr with it

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and because it looks nice

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 4:33 PM

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i would strongly suggest that you get a fan for the back of the case

jovial quest Apr 1, 2020, 4:33 PM

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i think i will stick to the 3600 because i would like to stay under 9000 dkk

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and i will do that then

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 4:33 PM

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120mm is what you need there

jovial quest Apr 1, 2020, 4:34 PM

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what brand of fans would you recommend?

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 4:34 PM

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noctua comes to mind, but really, anything that is not noisy would go well with it

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have you read any reviews on that case?

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because, looking at the pictures, the intake on the front is not exactly looking all that smart

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https://www.inter-tech.de/en/products/case/gaming-tower/w-iii-rgb

W-III RGB - Inter-Tech GmbH

Inter-Tech Elektronik Handels GmbH - Gehäuse, Netzteile und vieles mehr aus der Hardwarewelt

jovial quest Apr 1, 2020, 4:37 PM

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hmm yeah now that you mention it

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 4:38 PM

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it looks like there is only minimal intake up one front side

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and then perhaps some at the bottom of the glass front

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and the back side at the front, looks completely blocked off

jovial quest Apr 1, 2020, 4:38 PM

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hmm true

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so should i go with a nzxt instead

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 4:40 PM

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case is something i always leave up to the buyer

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because it is so very dependant on the "taste" of the person

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in theory, the W-III will be fine

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in theory.

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but i have never built in one, so i cannot say, and so far, i have not had much luck finding a review or video in any language that i can actually understand

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i am guessing you really want the RGB fans @jovial quest ?

buoyant flame Apr 1, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Who wouldn't 😉

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 4:50 PM

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me

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@jovial quest https://www.computersalg.dk/i/5020490/corsair-carbide-series-spec-delta ?

ComputerSalg.dk : CORSAIR Carbide Series SPEC DELTA RGB - Miditower...

CORSAIR Carbide Series SPEC DELTA RGB - Miditower - ATX - ingen strømforsyning (ATX) - USB/Lyd | Computersalg.dk : Alt inden for bærbare, computere, tablets, ipad, grafikkort, servere, kamera, gopro, gps, print, iphone. Altid de rigtige priser!

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that one actually comes with the fans it needs

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as in, both front and back

buoyant flame Apr 1, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Lol true

latent storm Apr 1, 2020, 5:15 PM

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hey

buoyant flame Apr 1, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Hiiii

sudden turret Apr 1, 2020, 5:26 PM

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hello

valid panther Apr 1, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Hi

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Im new to using this but basically new egg told me i can get an answer

latent storm Apr 1, 2020, 6:36 PM

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hey

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i doubt it but i might be able to help

valid panther Apr 1, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Im new on pc building for amd i was looking for the asus rog strix b450 and ryzen 5 3600 does the board come already updated for it or can newegg updated for me or how would that work ?

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 6:39 PM

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newegg cannot update it for you (last checked with them about 1 month ago)

jagged ember Apr 1, 2020, 6:39 PM

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You can get a boot kit from AMD themselves to update your bios

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 6:39 PM

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but, if you want to make 100% certain, ask @fresh garden about it @valid panther

latent storm Apr 1, 2020, 6:40 PM

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alright so i just ran into a problem, the b450 tomahawk that i was gonna go with only has one m.2 slot and i need at least two

jagged ember Apr 1, 2020, 6:40 PM

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https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-100 (look under Short Term Processor Loan Boot Kit)

latent storm Apr 1, 2020, 6:40 PM

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so should i just use the aorus b450 pro wifi?

valid panther Apr 1, 2020, 6:40 PM

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Okay thank you 😁

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Ill try both see whats faster

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 6:41 PM

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remember how we have been mentioning the pro gaming to you @latent storm ?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y3prxr/asus-tuf-b450m-pro-gaming-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-b450m-pro-gaming

Asus TUF B450M-PRO GAMING Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

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that and its ATX variant both support 2 m.2 drives

dry ridge Apr 1, 2020, 6:42 PM

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alright so i just ran into a problem, the b450 tomahawk that i was gonna go with only has one m.2 slot and i need at least two
@latent storm
You can get a pcie m.2 adaptor

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 6:42 PM

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he could also just get a board that is better than that

latent storm Apr 1, 2020, 6:42 PM

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honestly naed i don’t remember that lmao

jagged ember Apr 1, 2020, 6:42 PM

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yeah that's true

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getting a better board is probably worth the money

dry ridge Apr 1, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Depending on the use case

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 6:43 PM

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considering the m-atx is less money than the tomahawk ... yeah, it is worth it

latent storm Apr 1, 2020, 6:43 PM

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won’t that be too small for my case tho 😳

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 6:43 PM

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@dry ridge only use case where the tomahawk MIGHT be worth it, is IF you plan on trying to OC the pants of the CPU

latent storm Apr 1, 2020, 6:43 PM

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i don’t actually know the sizes like at all lmao

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 6:43 PM

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it wont be too small

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it will fit

dry ridge Apr 1, 2020, 6:44 PM

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If his current board is working fine for his use case then there is no reason to spend money upgrading the board

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 6:44 PM

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there will be leftover space at the bottom of your case, and that is the only side-effect

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@dry ridge its a new build

jagged ember Apr 1, 2020, 6:44 PM

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more airflow lol

wispy matrix Apr 1, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Hey

dry ridge Apr 1, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Oh new build nevermind ignore me

latent storm Apr 1, 2020, 6:44 PM

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and it’s cheaper

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that’s awesome

wispy matrix Apr 1, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Why are we called admins?

jagged ember Apr 1, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Also yeah

dry ridge Apr 1, 2020, 6:44 PM

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April fools?

jagged ember Apr 1, 2020, 6:45 PM

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I just noticed that

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oh it's april fools

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I also just realized that

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April fooled myself

sullen spoke Apr 1, 2020, 6:45 PM

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fool

latent storm Apr 1, 2020, 6:47 PM

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wait

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with the asus b450m pro board, will i have to update the bios to use ryzen 3000?

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 6:47 PM

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https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/TUF-B450M-PRO-GAMING/

ASUS USA

TUF B450M-PRO GAMING | Motherboards | ASUS USA

TUF B450M-PRO GAMING

latent storm Apr 1, 2020, 6:50 PM

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that’s awesome

static canopy Apr 1, 2020, 6:56 PM

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I don’t have a pc so I can’t show my build

dry ridge Apr 1, 2020, 6:57 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qZvKGc

System Builder

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5ghz daily zen project parts list

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The 2000$ hyper 212 is just a stand in for my cascade

timber trench Apr 1, 2020, 7:15 PM

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RGB Budget Build https://pcpartpicker.com/user/MoonlightGZ/saved/3zWn7P

Modern GTX Gaming Build 2020

latent storm Apr 1, 2020, 7:17 PM

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you’re spending $80 on rgb fans are you high

timber trench Apr 1, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Too much?

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They are high quality fans tho

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And Corsair is rlly good

latent storm Apr 1, 2020, 7:27 PM

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i know but like with a budget like that you could spend that money elsewhere

timber trench Apr 1, 2020, 7:28 PM

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What do you recommend?

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I need a 3 pack 120mm rgb fans so what’s a good price for good fans

foggy hazel Apr 1, 2020, 7:45 PM

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@timber trench do you need the wifi?

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if you skip out on the RGB fans and RGB ram

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tjLwjp

System Builder

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because your case comes with 3 fans included.

timber trench Apr 1, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Yeah I need WiFi

narrow rose Apr 1, 2020, 8:15 PM

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good deal on the 2060S

buoyant flame Apr 1, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Pretty sure a 2060s without rgb beats a 1660s with rgb and case fans imo

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Thats a no brainer for me

outer locust Apr 1, 2020, 10:05 PM

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you guys have a good pc build for 1.5k usd?

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Asking for a friend

viral ore Apr 1, 2020, 10:19 PM

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depends on what he is doing with the build

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but from experience, I dont like helping people indirectly with stuff like this, its just time consuming

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if he wants or needs help, tell him to ask himself

buoyant flame Apr 1, 2020, 10:22 PM

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^

fast aspen Apr 1, 2020, 11:59 PM

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So I'm thinking of buying the amd ryzen 7 3700 what type of graphic card should I be looking at?

upper condor Apr 1, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Depends on use and budgey

fast aspen Apr 2, 2020, 12:00 AM

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Gaming mainly

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And budge like 250

viral ore Apr 2, 2020, 12:08 AM

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250 will get you a chromebook

cursive wharf Apr 2, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Get a 3600 and better GPU
Think he means GPU budget is 250

fast aspen Apr 2, 2020, 12:30 AM

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Yeah gpu

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250 or 300

bronze vortex Apr 2, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Guys I’m upgrading my gpu and I’m debating weather I should get an rx 580 or a 1660 super

jagged ember Apr 2, 2020, 1:28 AM

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I'd go for the 1660 super

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https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1660S-Super-vs-AMD-RX-580/4056vs3923

UserBenchmark: AMD RX 580 vs Nvidia GTX 1660S (Super)

Based on 415,258 user benchmarks for the AMD RX 580 and the Nvidia GTX 1660S (Super), we rank them both on effective speed and value for money against the best 635 GPUs.

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just better performance overall

bronze vortex Apr 2, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Cool thanks

jagged ember Apr 2, 2020, 1:35 AM

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Not sure if this point is still applicable, but Nvidia has more stable drivers than AMD

narrow rose Apr 2, 2020, 1:41 AM

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it is imo

icy plume Apr 2, 2020, 1:42 AM

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they absolutely do

jagged ember Apr 2, 2020, 1:43 AM

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huh honestly kinda expected AMD to have fixed their driver issues by now

icy plume Apr 2, 2020, 1:43 AM

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nope

jagged ember Apr 2, 2020, 1:46 AM

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man if they didn't have driver issues they'd be much more competitive

celest horizon Apr 2, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Nvidia definitely had a stability advantage in the Win 7 era, but until recently, I'd say they were reasonably tied.
I prefer the nvidia driver as it's easy to strip out all of the telemetry/other unnecessary junk pre-installation.

buoyant flame Apr 2, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Wow Nobody mentioned UB Alarm

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 2:10 AM

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UB is acceptable for GPU

viral ore Apr 2, 2020, 2:10 AM

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whats UB

cursive wharf Apr 2, 2020, 2:12 AM

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userbenchmark

viral ore Apr 2, 2020, 2:13 AM

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oh lol

narrow rose Apr 2, 2020, 2:14 AM

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I also meant to be in #general-chat

stoic schooner Apr 2, 2020, 2:37 AM

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so i have a i5 9400f with asus prime b360 plus and a gigabyte gtx 1650 and its not so good at streaming what parts should i upgrade that are not expensive i have a low budget

paper needle Apr 2, 2020, 2:42 AM

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what type of budget we talken here

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@stoic schooner

stoic schooner Apr 2, 2020, 2:44 AM

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so far up to $200 or $250

cursive wharf Apr 2, 2020, 2:45 AM

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stream via NVENC

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and it should be adequate

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pascal NVENC is still okay enough

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which the 1650 has

stoic schooner Apr 2, 2020, 2:45 AM

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i do but when streaming games like MW its choppy

cursive wharf Apr 2, 2020, 2:46 AM

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because you're doing CPU based encoding

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encoding via NVENC takes like 0.5% - 1.2% of the CPU processing time

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and basically no GPU processing time

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and thus shouldnt cause extra lag

stoic schooner Apr 2, 2020, 2:47 AM

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where can i find this setting on obs streamlab

cursive wharf Apr 2, 2020, 2:50 AM

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It'd be somewhere in video encoding settings

stoic schooner Apr 2, 2020, 3:11 AM

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changed it but my cpu still at 100

cursive wharf Apr 2, 2020, 3:18 AM

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is it at 100 without streaming?

stoic schooner Apr 2, 2020, 3:23 AM

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let me check

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the game takes up 100

cursive wharf Apr 2, 2020, 3:34 AM

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up the graphics settings. With a GPU that low end that CPU usually shouldnt be at 100%

stoic schooner Apr 2, 2020, 3:35 AM

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my settings are on high

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should i just replace the gpu

cursive wharf Apr 2, 2020, 3:35 AM

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at what resolution?

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and what's the FPS?

stoic schooner Apr 2, 2020, 3:47 AM

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90 resolution and average was 60 up to 70

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 3:58 AM

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resolution as in 1080p or 1440p or 2160p

narrow rose Apr 2, 2020, 4:13 AM

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is the cpu down clocking itself while its at 100%?

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 4:14 AM

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(and temps?)

narrow rose Apr 2, 2020, 4:16 AM

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also MW is rather buggy

stoic schooner Apr 2, 2020, 4:34 AM

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1080p, not that i know of for both

green jacinth Apr 2, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Anyone wanna put together a build for me? Ryzen 5 3600X and a 2070 Super or 2080

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I'm fine with refurbished hardware from vendors like EBGA

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EVGA

jagged ember Apr 2, 2020, 4:51 AM

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@green jacinth
Ryzen 5 3600
ASUS ROG STRIX B450-F
G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB DDR4 3200MHz
MSI RTX2070
Seagate Barracuda 2TB
250GB WD Blue SATA III SSD
Corsair CX550

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I'm just a little unsure about my motherboard choice

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Also I have no clue what kind of cheap ATX case would go well with that

viral ore Apr 2, 2020, 5:04 AM

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how much do you wanna overclock, and how much RGB does your board need?

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@jagged ember

jagged ember Apr 2, 2020, 5:09 AM

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oh sorry

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i dont care about rgb, and i dont think ill be overclocking

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but the latter might change

viral ore Apr 2, 2020, 5:15 AM

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then the board needs to gooooo

jagged ember Apr 2, 2020, 5:15 AM

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huh alright

viral ore Apr 2, 2020, 5:15 AM

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cuz its overpriced

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mATX motherboard are cheapest

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along with most mATX cases too

jagged ember Apr 2, 2020, 5:17 AM

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any suggestions for some mATX motherboards then?

viral ore Apr 2, 2020, 5:18 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b450m-pro4/p/N82E16813157843

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this is a nice cheap one

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the only thing that idk about is the onboard audio

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its good enough for most things tho

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and then get whatever mATX case you want

jagged ember Apr 2, 2020, 5:21 AM

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yeah i can just use a usb dac

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haha funny enough this was the first mobo i looked at

viral ore Apr 2, 2020, 5:22 AM

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i like it because its a full size mATX

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so the 24 pin isnt as big of a b to get in

jagged ember Apr 2, 2020, 5:22 AM

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somehow got steered into atx mobo

viral ore Apr 2, 2020, 5:22 AM

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yeah, the only difference is the number of pcie slots

jagged ember Apr 2, 2020, 5:23 AM

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what about the pro 4-F

viral ore Apr 2, 2020, 5:26 AM

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what about it

jagged ember Apr 2, 2020, 5:26 AM

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is there any difference?

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apart from being slightly more expensive

viral ore Apr 2, 2020, 5:27 AM

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idk

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is it the atx on

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one

jagged ember Apr 2, 2020, 5:27 AM

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matx

viral ore Apr 2, 2020, 5:28 AM

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is that an asrock board

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i cant find it

jagged ember Apr 2, 2020, 5:30 AM

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yeah it should be

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im looking at it now and it doesn't seem much different

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pro4 supoorts 4k playback thru hdmi port but the F version doesn't

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and the pro4 has a hdmi port vs a hdmi 1.4 port on the F version

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but do these things even matter ?

viral ore Apr 2, 2020, 5:36 AM

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no they dont

jagged ember Apr 2, 2020, 5:36 AM

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then probably the cheaper one

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not sure about matx cases tho

viral ore Apr 2, 2020, 5:37 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b450m-hdv-r4-0/p/N82E16813157871?&quicklink=true

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thats the cheapest board

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it doesnt get cheaper on the wegg

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i have also used this board on three occassions

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its enough

jagged ember Apr 2, 2020, 5:39 AM

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2 dimm slots but

viral ore Apr 2, 2020, 5:40 AM

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2 dimm slots is ideal

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because the cpu has 2 memory channels

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880?&quicklink=true

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this is ideal ram, there a few other colors for the same price as well

jagged ember Apr 2, 2020, 5:41 AM

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so it wont benefit from 4 filled dimm slots?

viral ore Apr 2, 2020, 5:41 AM

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you will get more capacity

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but 16gb is more than enough

jagged ember Apr 2, 2020, 5:41 AM

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haha that's true

viral ore Apr 2, 2020, 5:41 AM

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and 4x4 is the same price for worse performance

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so that plus the 3600

jagged ember Apr 2, 2020, 5:42 AM

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yeah true

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there does seem to be a difference in connectors

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hdv doesn't have an 8 pin connector

viral ore Apr 2, 2020, 5:43 AM

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doesnt need it

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tbh, the other one doesnt need the 8 pin either

jagged ember Apr 2, 2020, 5:43 AM

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what is that for though

viral ore Apr 2, 2020, 5:43 AM

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its cpu auxilary power

jagged ember Apr 2, 2020, 5:44 AM

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huh alright

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thanks dude!

viral ore Apr 2, 2020, 5:44 AM

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the 8 pin can supply 240w

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i think the 4 pin does half that

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120w is enough for the 3600

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plus the exrta power from the socket

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https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007583 600546036&Order=PRICE

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as for the case

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pick one ig

jagged ember Apr 2, 2020, 5:50 AM

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thermaltake versa h18?

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may need some extra fans tho

viral ore Apr 2, 2020, 6:37 AM

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yeah, thats a fine case

foggy bough Apr 2, 2020, 12:09 PM

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helloOoOoOooOoOoOoOooO

sullen spoke Apr 2, 2020, 12:12 PM

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owo

sudden turret Apr 2, 2020, 12:31 PM

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hiiiii

buoyant flame Apr 2, 2020, 12:53 PM

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Hiiii

tranquil dust Apr 2, 2020, 12:53 PM

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Hiiii

raw wigeon Apr 2, 2020, 2:24 PM

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Hi is the Pentium G4400 compatible with socket 1151?

foggy hazel Apr 2, 2020, 2:25 PM

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in theory, yes. In reality, it depends on your mainboard

raw wigeon Apr 2, 2020, 2:27 PM

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How do I know? It's the msi h370/b360?

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Gaming plus

foggy hazel Apr 2, 2020, 2:28 PM

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https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/H370-GAMING-PLUS#support-cpu

Support For H370 GAMING PLUS | Motherboard - The world leader in mo...

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i dont see it on the list

buoyant flame Apr 2, 2020, 4:51 PM

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How long did that hard tubing take @late ice

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Also is your reservoir built into the front panel of the case?

sharp perch Apr 2, 2020, 4:54 PM

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How are you naed?

thorny bronze Apr 2, 2020, 5:13 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-mca-0005-kuh00-black/p/1W8-0049-00069?Description=gpu support&cm_re=gpu_support-_-1W8-0049-00069-_-Product&quicklink=true

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is this any good

analog hearth Apr 2, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Doubt it

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 7:30 PM

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y tho

little osprey Apr 2, 2020, 7:53 PM

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I need to make this PC around 1200 that has three 27 inch curved monitors and a pc with wifi
mouse and keyboard and wall mounting kit as well

analog hearth Apr 2, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Just the peripherals alone will cost more than three quarters of your budget

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And you’d need a PC to drive three monitors

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That’s maybe a $2500 to $3000 setup

little osprey Apr 2, 2020, 7:57 PM

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1080p 60hz

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 7:57 PM

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...

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why not single panel

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at that budget it doesn't make much sense for triple monitor

little osprey Apr 2, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Idk

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But I can probably get three monitors for about 600

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Then spend 550 on PC some how

analog hearth Apr 2, 2020, 8:00 PM

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And then a $500 PC to drive those monitors

celest horizon Apr 2, 2020, 8:01 PM

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An RX580 for $80 used can drive 4+ monitors easily

analog hearth Apr 2, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Because peripherals are probably going to be (around*) $100

little osprey Apr 2, 2020, 8:01 PM

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It's not for gaming

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 8:01 PM

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why not just a single ultrawide panel?

celest horizon Apr 2, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Preference

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Ultrawides cost a premium

analog hearth Apr 2, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Ultra-wide > three panels for a budget

celest horizon Apr 2, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Do this 🙂 https://youtu.be/DmKYEFMh6xo?t=123

YouTube

Engineer Man

Deep dive into my tech: 8 Monitors, 192GB RAM, and more

The secret is out and here is everything I use!

Hope you enjoyed the video!

Workstation:

Intel i7-6800K Hex-core CPU
64GB RAM
2x PNY Quadro P1000 GPUs
256GB Crucial SSD
Amazon Basics Wired Keyboard
Logitech Wired Mouse B100
Anker Power Brick
Google Home Mini
...

▶ Play video

cold sorrel Apr 2, 2020, 8:10 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z9m2TC

System Builder

dark mango Apr 2, 2020, 8:15 PM

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x570?

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 8:16 PM

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whats that pc for?

proud galleon Apr 2, 2020, 8:23 PM

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Trying to find a good size desk that's decent but under $200 to showcase my Corsair Crystal 280x Build (black preferred), im not sure with what i've looked at so far

coarse coral Apr 2, 2020, 8:24 PM

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@proud galleon cant go wrong with ikea

proud galleon Apr 2, 2020, 8:25 PM

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idk why i havent thought to look there yet

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i've mostly been on amazon

cold sorrel Apr 2, 2020, 8:37 PM

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I actually have a decent desk, it's just become sort of a junk heap. (And my old desktop is actually still sitting on it, even though I've not turned it on in years. It's also unplugged)

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And I'm rolling with an x570 motherboard so I don't have to fuss with flashing the BIOS for a Ryzen 3600. I don't have a previous gen Ryzen CPU to do it anyway.

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Well yaknow

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msi boards also have the bios flash button thing

#

but anyways

#

Bios flash without CPU or GPU or anything, just power :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTkXunUAriE

YouTube

MSI HOW-TO CHANNEL

MSI® HOW TO use Flash BIOS Button

In this demonstration, we’ll show you how to use Flash BIOS Button with MSI motherboard.

▶ Play video

cold sorrel Apr 2, 2020, 8:52 PM

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There's also shades of, "I'm upgrading, I might as well get an x570 and be set for the foreseeable future"

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 8:53 PM

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my only problem with that is theres only 1 more generation of ryzen chips and they move from socket am4

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but I understand if you're buying new, you want pcie 4.0 support for the future

cold sorrel Apr 2, 2020, 8:55 PM

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I did want a 2060 originally, but realized that would put the cost up too high. I need to save some money for a monitor and keyboard. (I have a gaming mouse already that I'm happy with).

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 8:56 PM

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ehh

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did you buy already

cold sorrel Apr 2, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Oh no. I'm still looking at things. I'm just throwing the list out looking for advice

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 8:58 PM

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whats your total budget

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including monitor

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not keyboard tho

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bc idrk good mid priced keyboards

cold sorrel Apr 2, 2020, 9:05 PM

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I haven't really set a firm budget other than "I am not spending more than $1500 on a system again" and I would prefer to come in under that if possible. I'm not looking to do 4k gaming. And for initial setup I was just going to use the stock CPU cooler, then think about upgrading later.

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 9:06 PM

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1500?

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okay lemme see

cold sorrel Apr 2, 2020, 9:09 PM

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I'm pretty set on the case and processor, other things I might be convinced to change. (Because the price on the 3600 is really good at the moment).

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 9:10 PM

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I understand you dont want to spend the full 1500 so I'm gonna try to keep it at 1200 1300

cold sorrel Apr 2, 2020, 9:10 PM

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As for games I actually play, it's mostly World of Warcraft, Sims 4, Guild Wars 2, and sometimes Skyrim.

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 9:11 PM

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1080p or 1440p

cold sorrel Apr 2, 2020, 9:12 PM

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I think for now I'd best settle for 1080p.

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 9:13 PM

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alright

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Prices are so wacky rn... Heres this list for your consideration. You can dial back the GPU option if you want to spend less, you can definally switch out the monitor for smth else, 1080p monitor prices and availability rn is too wacky for me :p
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KyB4Gc

System Builder

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I put in extra storage overall because I believe that would be better for you for the long term and all, you'll have more free room to play with.

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That ssd is better overall than the ex900, actually has dram and has better controller.

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I didn't touch case, cpu, or mobo since you seemed to be set on thoose

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PSU I choose the amp because thats a pretty good PSU.

cold sorrel Apr 2, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Okay, I actually agree with most of that, including the storage change. I do hoard files like a dragon, and that will probably only continue to worsen. Monitor looks reasonable, but as much as I'd love a 2070 Super, it's just more than I want to spend on a single component. I still need to pick RAM as well. (And I'm flailing around with no idea as to what'll work with that motherboard.)

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 9:31 PM

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oh shoot

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did I forget ram

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LOL

#

I got you

#

Fixed: downgrade GPU to a 2060super, added ram.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vd7ZrV

System Builder

lyric thistle Apr 2, 2020, 9:33 PM

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1660 Super would probably be sufficient if the 20xxs are too much

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But iunno I'm just the GT 730 guy peepoSadSip

cold sorrel Apr 2, 2020, 9:34 PM

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I'd actually intended to settle on the 1660 Super earlier

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 9:35 PM

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I still have the philosophy of if you're gonna spend a certain amount on a build, I sure as heck will try my best to squeeze as much performance out of it as I can

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@quasi hornetyou know what I said about the monitor? scratch that, I think I see something fitting in #tech-deals IF you are fine with 27in 1080p

cold sorrel Apr 2, 2020, 9:59 PM

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This will show how long its been since I bought a monitor... will I need to buy a connecting cable separately?

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 10:00 PM

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no

cold sorrel Apr 2, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Man, that 27 inch looks tempting even if it is refurbished.

minor wing Apr 2, 2020, 10:25 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Xenno12/saved/ anything i could improve on for my first build?

Saved Part Lists

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 10:29 PM

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@minor wing I don't think you linked the right thing

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is it private?

minor wing Apr 2, 2020, 10:31 PM

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oh shoot let me check

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this one should work

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Xenno12/saved/#view=Qcg27P

Saved Part Lists

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 10:32 PM

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that works

#

whats your budget?

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because theres parts with no price avaliable

minor wing Apr 2, 2020, 10:33 PM

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oh its around a thousand

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just not sure what gpu to get around that price point

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 10:34 PM

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okay so 1000 with or without monitor

celest horizon Apr 2, 2020, 10:34 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-2060-super-08g-p4-3062-kr/p/N82E16814487485

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 10:34 PM

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yea forks I got a list around for 1000 no monitor

minor wing Apr 2, 2020, 10:34 PM

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without

celest horizon Apr 2, 2020, 10:35 PM

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$364 after rebate, not bad

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 10:35 PM

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I can shave some money off but rn heres this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gQCt4n

System Builder

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o wait

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tqLjL2

System Builder

minor wing Apr 2, 2020, 10:36 PM

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i've watched videos about gpus without 3 fans and how bad they are

#

is that true?

celest horizon Apr 2, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Nothing wrong with single/dual fan gpu's.

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If you want a more premium model for a premium price, go for a FTW3 model.

minor wing Apr 2, 2020, 10:37 PM

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ahh alright

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Forks, any other good case at 50$ or so for a cheaper build?

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other than focus g

#

I'm gonna have to look into q300l for mATX ones but any others?

celest horizon Apr 2, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Idk, I thnink case is largely aesthetic preference. Easy to add one's own fans for more cooling / rgb taste.

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Airflow wise any good one in the lower cost range?

celest horizon Apr 2, 2020, 10:49 PM

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I would just look around /r/buildapcsales - https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/ftfwg3/case_diypc_viibkargb_tempered_glass_atx_mid_tower/

r/buildapcsales - [case] DIYPC VII-BK-ARGB Tempered Glass ATX Mid T...

29 votes and 20 comments so far on Reddit

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Huh ok

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I really need to get into Reddit

#

It's quite useful

foggy hazel Apr 2, 2020, 11:05 PM

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just remember to disinfect yourself after you visit @stoic island

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 11:07 PM

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Uh oh

cursive wharf Apr 2, 2020, 11:38 PM

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@stoic island What is with that x570 mobo tho?

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for a bit earilier

stoic island Apr 2, 2020, 11:39 PM

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@cursive wharf they specifically wanted it

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So I left it

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Like sure you could slap in a tuf pro in place of that for anyone else

cursive wharf Apr 2, 2020, 11:42 PM

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@cold sorrel x570 gets you PCIe 4.0. However what workloads do you do where you'll notice it? You can say use it for multi GPU when more GPUs with 4.0 come out and due to GPUs running at say x4 gen4 instead of x8 gen3. Use less lanes and get more GPUs, tho I doubt you need that. You can get a gen4 SSD, but will you notice a difference? Unlikely to even notice one for 99% of people. I mean by the time you decide to buy a gen4 SSD, would you be upgrading the whole PC anyways because it'll be a long time before gen4 SSDs become decently cheap?

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Unless you really plan to use gen4 I suggest saving the money and putting to something else, like GPU

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Should also note that case doesnt have that amazing of airflow

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Also MSI x570 should only be bought for very, very, specific use cases because MSI flopped x570 hard. There isnt really anything good about that board any even this cheaper x570 board is better or the same in about every way
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7mGnTW/asrock-x570-phantom-gaming-4-wifi-ax-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-phantom-gaming-4-wifi-ax

ASRock X570 PHANTOM GAMING 4 WIFI ax ATX AM4 Motherboard

cobalt oar Apr 3, 2020, 12:44 AM

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so my computer was working fine last night when i shut it down. this morning i go to get on it and when i press the power button, everything cuts on then goes back out. but when i hit it a second time it works properly. any ideas on what this issue could be?

dark mango Apr 3, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Reconnect everything

scenic heath Apr 3, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Alright well idk if this is a problem but Im gonna ask it anyways

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As you see the fines to the right are obviously removable

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This is a nzxt case

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And I wanna upgrade to a enthoo

sacred obsidian Apr 3, 2020, 1:24 AM

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which one?

scenic heath Apr 3, 2020, 1:24 AM

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And when you remove the front cover of the enthoo there are 2 fans

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Enthoo c

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X*

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So is there any other place I can put the fans on my nzxt

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Into the enthoo

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Sorry if I’m not making sense

sacred obsidian Apr 3, 2020, 1:25 AM

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no you're good

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It appears that all of the fans inside of your current case will fit into the enthoo evolve X, however it looks like the rad might be a little tight, but It does appear that it will fit

scenic heath Apr 3, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Yea but the fans when you take off the front plate on the enthoo are also removable

sacred obsidian Apr 3, 2020, 1:27 AM

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To keep your current fans you will have to remove the fans included in the Enthoo though.

scenic heath Apr 3, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Can I put the fans from my nzxt to replace those fans??

sacred obsidian Apr 3, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Yeah you should be able to no problem

scenic heath Apr 3, 2020, 1:28 AM

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Alright thank you I wanted to make sure

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Because I was gonna replace those fans with rgb and I wanted to ask this question to see how many rgb fans I should get

sacred obsidian Apr 3, 2020, 1:28 AM

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do you know what size fans you are using?

scenic heath Apr 3, 2020, 1:28 AM

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I do not I have a picture of the fans on the right

sacred obsidian Apr 3, 2020, 1:29 AM

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well it looks like they use 140mm fans so if you get new fans make sure they are that size

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what aio is that

scenic heath Apr 3, 2020, 1:31 AM

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aio?

sacred obsidian Apr 3, 2020, 1:31 AM

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the water cooler

scenic heath Apr 3, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Corsair

sacred obsidian Apr 3, 2020, 1:31 AM

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but what model lol

scenic heath Apr 3, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Let me see lol

sacred obsidian Apr 3, 2020, 1:34 AM

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so guessing at the model since similar ones seem to be the same size, it shouldn't have any fitment issues.

scenic heath Apr 3, 2020, 1:35 AM

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Yea It’s the hydro series h100i

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But I need to see if it’s 140 or 120

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But does it matter?

sacred obsidian Apr 3, 2020, 1:36 AM

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it can but im not sure. I know the dual 120 will fit

wanton sail Apr 3, 2020, 1:37 AM

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when you look up a case it usually has specs on what will fit

scenic heath Apr 3, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Yea that’s the one I think I have

bright pond Apr 3, 2020, 1:37 AM

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I am looking for a good Mobo to go with the i9 cofee lake cpu

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can anyone suggest a mobo that is not $$$$$

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?

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144214?Item=N82E16813144214

sacred obsidian Apr 3, 2020, 1:37 AM

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then you should be good to go 🙂

bright pond Apr 3, 2020, 1:38 AM

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get that mobo?

sacred obsidian Apr 3, 2020, 1:38 AM

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that mobo would be fine

bright pond Apr 3, 2020, 1:38 AM

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I love hearing this

sacred obsidian Apr 3, 2020, 1:38 AM

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what cpu is it exactly?

scenic heath Apr 3, 2020, 1:38 AM

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Yea the fans seem to be together rather than separate

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But the enthoo has separate fans

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I can just replace those Easy basically

wanton sail Apr 3, 2020, 1:39 AM

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@bright pond alot of the ones cheaper than that support low Ram speeds

bright pond Apr 3, 2020, 1:39 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/core-i9-9th-gen-intel-core-i9-9900k/p/N82E16819117957?Item=N82E16819117957

sacred obsidian Apr 3, 2020, 1:40 AM

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yeah you just need to replace em with the current radiator and fans in your case

scenic heath Apr 3, 2020, 1:40 AM

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So do I need to get a new radiator?

sacred obsidian Apr 3, 2020, 1:40 AM

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nope

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your current should fit

wanton sail Apr 3, 2020, 1:41 AM

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sorry to butt in wasn't sure where to ask, any nice GPU sag solutions that aren't crazy expensive? seen some cool figurine hold ups other wise anyone know if this is good https://www.amazon.com/DEEPCOOL-Graphics-Addressable-Controlled-Motherboard/dp/B07PYR46CL/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=rgb+gpu+bracket&qid=1585875500&sr=8-3

scenic heath Apr 3, 2020, 1:41 AM

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Appreciate it man you Been a big help

sacred obsidian Apr 3, 2020, 1:41 AM

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no problem 🙂

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people have talked about using things like these with success https://www.amazon.com/upHere-Graphics-Anodized-Aerospace-Aluminum/dp/B076GYL25H/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=gpu+bracket&qid=1585878129&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyN1IxQUlFR1VDNlZJJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUExMDQzMzE4VEYyQ1ZNQVpBN1lDJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA5MDQ3ODQzTEZGQ01MTERWWEQ0JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

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or something like this https://www.amazon.com/upHere-Graphics-Anodized-Aerospace-Aluminum/dp/B079HSVSLR/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=gpu+bracket&qid=1585878160&sr=8-7

scenic heath Apr 3, 2020, 1:43 AM

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So the separate fan on the enthoo if I get a rgb one does it also matter if it’s 140 or 120?

wanton sail Apr 3, 2020, 1:43 AM

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depends on case, usually the back exhaust is 120, usually front will fit 140 or 120

sacred obsidian Apr 3, 2020, 1:44 AM

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im looking up exactly what it accepts where lol

scenic heath Apr 3, 2020, 1:45 AM

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Think this makes it easier

sacred obsidian Apr 3, 2020, 1:45 AM

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it looks like it will support 120-140 on all ports

sharp viper Apr 3, 2020, 1:45 AM

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Well guys I’m getting fans and honestly it’s overkill but I won’t need any after lol

sacred obsidian Apr 3, 2020, 1:46 AM

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lol i pulled up the manual 😛

scenic heath Apr 3, 2020, 1:46 AM

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Lmaoo

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It’s seems I can put my water cooler on top of the case

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And just replace the other 2

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But all the fans installed are 140mm

sacred obsidian Apr 3, 2020, 1:48 AM

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I think I read that there will be clearance issues if you try that

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it will fit best on the front in that case but you might be able too.

scenic heath Apr 3, 2020, 1:49 AM

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If I can do it at the front imma do it

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No reason to try something I kno I can have a better way

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Alright so since the fan in the back is 140mm means if I wanna replace it I need a 140mm one?

sacred obsidian Apr 3, 2020, 1:50 AM

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it can be 120 or 140 on all the fan slots

scenic heath Apr 3, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Ok thank you

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You’ve been a great help man

sacred obsidian Apr 3, 2020, 1:50 AM

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no prob 🙂

icy plume Apr 3, 2020, 2:35 AM

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out of curiousity

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could i plug stuff into a couple different PSUs and still have the whole system run as long as it's hooked together

lyric thistle Apr 3, 2020, 2:36 AM

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I think so

icy plume Apr 3, 2020, 2:37 AM

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:D

lyric thistle Apr 3, 2020, 2:37 AM

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I mean when people make SBC+GPU builds they have an actual PSU

icy plume Apr 3, 2020, 2:37 AM

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imagine tho, plugging the mobo, storage, and gpu into all different PSUs and just making a frankenstein build

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make what?

lyric thistle Apr 3, 2020, 2:38 AM

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Lol

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Single board computers

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With m.2 slots, m.2 to PCIe x16 adapter

icy plume Apr 3, 2020, 2:39 AM

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ah

latent storm Apr 3, 2020, 3:16 AM

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help

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what does this mean

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icy plume Apr 3, 2020, 3:19 AM

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it means that if you use an M.2 Drive, you won't be able to utilize two SATA ports

latent storm Apr 3, 2020, 3:47 AM

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would that be a problem?

viral ore Apr 3, 2020, 3:49 AM

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no

modern shadow Apr 3, 2020, 4:33 AM

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I’m depressed (technologically speaking). all I have is a prebuilt with a i5 8400 and a aftermarket gtx1650 ventus. And with my crappy 350watt posh I can’t even overclock it. Once I tried and the computer just went blank until I reinstalled the graphics card. NEED NEW PC, NOWWWWWW!

sullen spoke Apr 3, 2020, 4:35 AM

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350 is a bit low..

sharp viper Apr 3, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Maybe a new psu would help

latent storm Apr 3, 2020, 4:48 AM

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@viral ore i plan on installing an m.2 nvme ssd and an m.2 wifi card that my friend is giving me

viral ore Apr 3, 2020, 4:49 AM

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ok

latent storm Apr 3, 2020, 4:55 AM

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so it for sure wouldn’t be a prob?

cursive wharf Apr 3, 2020, 4:56 AM

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M2 has different key states. M keyed M2 slots are for NVMe and A keyed or E keyed M2 is WiFi

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So if you have an A or E keyed M2 slot on your board the WiFi M2 will work

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and if you have a M keyed M2 then the NVMe will work

sharp viper Apr 3, 2020, 5:08 AM

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So I have decided on the ram and cpu that I’m upgrading to, but still undecided on a mobo
Fx-4300 (upgrade to r5 2600x)
Gigabyte ga-78lmt-s2 (undecided)
8gb ddr3 (g.skill trident z rgb 16gb 3000)
1050ti (keeping)
Psu is unknown as I just picked this system up but I’m opening it up tomorrow so I know what my limit is

round fable Apr 3, 2020, 5:37 AM

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So I've been trying to decide on a motherboard for my first PC build. Torn between the Aorus Elite WiFi or the Tuf Gaming X570 plus wifi. Any opinions on the two?

fallen wren Apr 3, 2020, 5:48 AM

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The Crosshair Hero VIII chipset fan is completely covered and nearly butt-up against this ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 2070 Super.... I assume I shouldn't be concerned... right? If it's pushing air down to the chipset, the RTX fins and airflow will just push more air into that hole (potentially warm air). Thoughts?

warped moat Apr 3, 2020, 6:30 AM

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@sharp viper you can get the 3200mhz version of that RAM for 10$ more. Ryzen loves fast RAM

latent storm Apr 3, 2020, 6:33 AM

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yo @cursive wharf i have no idea what you just said

cursive wharf Apr 3, 2020, 6:42 AM

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example: M vs B vs M+B keyed port

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That is on the SSD

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Now think of the mobo port slot that needs to support it. M+B key is usually SATA and M is usually NVMe. The usual M2 mobo port would be M keyed. So it'd work with both M key and M+B key, but wouldnt with B key because a plastic lock gets in the way of the SSD fully going into the slot

little osprey Apr 3, 2020, 10:50 AM

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Im a little stuck here on my current build.

I want to be able to use my ram to what its rated for but i just get constant crashing anytime the speed goes over 2666.

ASUS ROG Strix B450-F Gaming
Ryzen 7 2700X
Corsair Veng. PRO RGB 32GB 4x8GB 3600Mhz
2.5TB Storage (2 SSD’s and one Hard drive)
ASUS GTX1060 6GB OC
Corsair CXM650W +80 bronze.

My main issue is that me having 4 ram sticks only allows me to run the speed at 2666mhz when the sticks are rated for 3600mhz. Any time i try overclocking above that, i get bluescreens/boot failures all over. I dont know what i need to change in my build, the CPU, the Motherboard, or both? Id like to keep my current ram kit atleast.

sudden turret Apr 3, 2020, 11:05 AM

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I think using 4 sticks you can only go so high

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when you say Overclocking, are you manually punching in values? or just using the "profile 1" xmp ?? @little osprey

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https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/ROG_STRIX_B450_F_GAMING/Memory_QVL_AMD_Ryzen_2000_Series_Processors_B450_4DIMM.pdf

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if your ram is CMW32GX4M4C3600C18

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I don't even see it on the QVL for that Mobo, could be why you are having issues.

cursive wharf Apr 3, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Also note about timings, sustained voltage, starting voltage. Looking into those things can help

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Try boosting voltages (to a reasonable level).

little osprey Apr 3, 2020, 2:33 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d4Yt4n

System Builder

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Is this a good build to run three monitors

buoyant flame Apr 3, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Depends on the monitors and what your using them for

cursive wharf Apr 3, 2020, 3:08 PM

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That board is meh for the price and that USB adapter is basically the same price as PCIe ones which are usually better

wind leaf Apr 3, 2020, 5:55 PM

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does it matter if the hard drive i get is 3.5 “ or 2.5”? should it be the same as my ssd ? need answers asap

foggy hazel Apr 3, 2020, 5:57 PM

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re: size: speed and price will differ

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re: same as your ssd: elaborate?

wind leaf Apr 3, 2020, 5:58 PM

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my ssd is kingston a400 240 gb 2.5”

foggy hazel Apr 3, 2020, 5:59 PM

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and your question is?

wind leaf Apr 3, 2020, 6:04 PM

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does my hdd have to match that

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does it matter

foggy hazel Apr 3, 2020, 6:04 PM

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in physical size?

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or in storage size?

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because neither matter

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i am just quite curious what made you ask the question in the first place

feral thistle Apr 3, 2020, 6:12 PM

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You can run an NVMe, SSD, and mechanical HDD together with no issues.

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well, as long as the SSD and HDD don't share the port for the NVMe

sullen spoke Apr 3, 2020, 7:01 PM

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physical size only matters if it can't fit in the case, but if you want to go crazy duck tape is pretty fun to use hehe

wind leaf Apr 3, 2020, 7:13 PM

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i’m about to build my pc

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i finally got all the parts but i’m definitely going to need some help

foggy hazel Apr 3, 2020, 7:34 PM

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@wind leaf when you are actually starting the build. Give a shout.

gilded fog Apr 3, 2020, 7:48 PM

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If a get a amd ryzen 3 3200 and for the motherboard the msi b450 tomahawk, will i have to do a bios update?

blazing lynx Apr 3, 2020, 7:50 PM

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i have never used anything but intel in my builds, but will a 1060 6GB work on an AMD motherboard? or will i need an AMD graphics card as well

sullen spoke Apr 3, 2020, 7:55 PM

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nvidia gpus work with both intel or amd cpu/mobo @blazing lynx

blazing lynx Apr 3, 2020, 7:55 PM

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thank you, that is what i thought, although i wasnt sure so i wanted to ask

sullen spoke Apr 3, 2020, 7:55 PM

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always safe to check

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np

wide sparrow Apr 3, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Hey all

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So these 140mm will be pushing the air out?

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stoic island Apr 3, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Normally you want front fans to pull in air? @wide sparrow

wide sparrow Apr 3, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Mmmmm

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I'm not a fan guy oof

stoic island Apr 3, 2020, 8:09 PM

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its ok