wont have any issues
#building-and-recc-chat
narrow rose
foggy bough
should i get a r5 3600?
stoic island
no
analog hearth
Yes what Nilboggen said. To add to that, I’d increase the graphics settings more than the CPU settings so the GPU has more of a load over the 2600
foggy bough
i havent build it yet
foggy bough
not yet
analog hearth
I’d get a 3600 over a 2600
stoic island
because if not we can change stuff around
foggy bough
but maybe my budget isnt enough
stoic island
yea do it
narrow rose
and send me some lol
foggy bough
its msi
stoic island
hope its not a scam
narrow rose
thats sketchy
narrow rose
these are probably mining cards that may or may not work
foggy bough
it isnt mining i checked
analog hearth
Get the Ti. The generic 1080 is becoming obsolete (sort of, not too obsolete)
foggy bough
aight
foggy bough
its not fake dont worry
analog hearth
Like I wouldn’t upgrade from it but I wouldn’t buy one now
foggy bough
what do u mean
narrow rose
Just so you know a used 1080ti is worth far more than 241 euros which is why we are so wary
analog hearth
If I had a 1080 I wouldn’t upgrade from it but I wouldn’t buy one now just because of my current graphics situation (guess that could’ve been taken a little personal lol)
analog hearth
Good pair
foggy bough
but i will sacrifice some storage for it
narrow rose
and get 3600mhz ram even if it has to be CL18
narrow rose
3600mhz
foggy bough
its overpriced
sacred obsidian
3200 is fine for 3600
narrow rose
that cpu needs the speed and you should be able to find 3600 for around the same price with a CL18
I disagree it limits it quite a bit
analog hearth
I’m using 3200MHz and it feels fine imo
sacred obsidian
same
foggy bough
aight thx @analog hearth and @sacred obsidian and @narrow rose
analog hearth
:)
foggy bough
have a nice day
narrow rose
you too
foggy hazel
@foggy bough you are not located in germany by chance?
narrow rose
@foggy hazel he was in United Arab Emirates
foggy hazel
ah, okay
were you around for the German guy with the 1080ti's the other day @narrow rose ?
narrow rose
no but I wish I could get cheap 1080ti's
foggy hazel
there was a number of them selling, new, for about 350-ish euro iirc
not, used, but looking new.
but actually new
narrow rose
wow
narrow rose
huh wierd
foggy hazel
and it was a bunch of random manufacturers
aye
and there isnt a rumour or anything going at the moment
you know, something that would give a logical reason for it
narrow rose
I would totally buy 2 to sli and mess with for $600ish
foggy hazel
remember, euro thou
narrow rose
true true
foggy hazel
but yes, they are still half price when compared to my local price here
heck, they are under
narrow rose
but todays guy was 242 euro in Arabia
foggy hazel
aye aye
and then the quick gist i got from skimming was you guys gave the right response
"run, and dont look back"
narrow rose
lol right
pliant nova
Hi all
I have two different laptops I am looking at and I was wondering if someone could tell me which was better?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gigabyte-Aorus-X7-PRO-V5-SL2-i7-16GB-256GB-SSD-1TB-970M-6GB-SLI-17-IPS-G-SYNC/124066115832?hash=item1ce2eab0f8:g:Nz8AAOSwVt5dTftI and https://www.amazon.com/AORUS-NA-7US1021SH-i7-9750H-GeForce-Keyboard/dp/B0848GQRXM?th=1https://www.amazon.com/AORUS-NA-7US1021SH-i7-9750H-GeForce-Keyboard/dp/B0848GQRXM?th=1
oak moss
anybody own a RTX 2070
sacred obsidian
the first has a 970M which is not as good as a 1660TI, and it has a much newer and better cpu
the second has a better cpu*
pliant nova
so it's worth the extra 200 bucks?
sacred obsidian
the same specs in a desktop would run much better is what im saying. the small form factor brings down the performance quite a bit
im not saying don't buy the laptop, i'm just throwing that word of caution lol
pliant nova
Basically I am looking for a budget of about a grand to replace my current Asus ROG GL752VW
sacred obsidian
i mean for a grand thats not a bad laptop
pliant nova
my next question is I have a samsung m2 in here (in the asus)
oak moss
I was just wondering how the fps in gta with the rtx 2070
pliant nova
how hard is it to put the m2 into the Aorus 7SA
sacred obsidian
Oh i don't know. I was getting about 120-150 on ultra in BL3 but thats the only demanding game ive tried out so far lol
and im not sure on that. It depends on the mobo inside the laptop
and how easily accessible it is
it shows that it comes with an m.2 pcie nvme so you might be able to just switch it out, however if that's what has windows on it you might be stuck with doing a reinstall
pliant nova
or do I just keep my Asus ROG 752vw
pliant nova
yup
little osprey
who wants to 1v1?
sacred obsidian
if you plan on buying the new one anyways, i would keep the old one as is since the new one comes with its own nvme. if you are worried about how much of a performance boost youll get by buying a new one, I don't really know since i'm not really savy with laptops. Mine has a 1060 in it and it runs okay and the 1660ti is supposedly quite a bit better but I've only ever owned or messed with one gaming laptop
pliant nova
My copy of Windows is on the SSD
the Mechanical drive I have in here has my files on it
sacred obsidian
oh the new laptop will have windows on it.
you might be able to add in your mechanical drive if it has a bay for it, since it doenst have one of it's own
cursive wharf
@pliant nova is the stuff you're doing SLI compatible? As that 970M laptop is an SLIed GPU
thorny bronze
Does anyone on here know how to setup ethernet for a desktop
fallen bolt
Question: is there an AM4 Mobo that supports 2nd gen up to 9th gen ryzen?
buoyant flame
um 9th gen isn't out yet...
fallen bolt
Oof fair enough. I'm a bit of a dumb ass. I'll rephrase. Say a R7 2700 - R9 3900x. Possible?
buoyant flame
well yes. considering they all have the same socket. You might have to update bios to go from a 2000 to 3000 series chips tho
fallen bolt
Ok. That's what I thought. At what point would a bios update not help, it's that just up to the manufacturer for support?
Also sorry if this should go into a different channel, will take it elsewhere if that's the case.
Appreciate the help btw
buoyant flame
this channel is good enough for now
the bios update wouldn't help in the event that they changed the socket size for the next gen of chips
fallen bolt
Alright sounds good. So just about any AM4 socket should work.
buoyant flame
I don't like giving people absolutes so a better way to check would be to give us a specific motherboard and specific cpu just to make sure
but for the most part yes am4 sockets support all 2-3 gen chips
keep in mind that a b450 board, although it has a am4 socket, might not be compatible with a r7 3700x per say because it doesn't ship with the correct bios
fallen bolt
No worries I understand what you mean. What I'm looking at right now is a Rog strix b450-f for a R7 2700 and possibly a R9 3900 in the future
I was looking at Asus website and it said it would support it
buoyant flame
ooh nice hei is here lol
cursive wharf
Also, with a BIOS update it'd work
buoyant flame
but a bios update is not needed for the 2700 only when you actually upgrade to the 3900
cursive wharf
Issue is that if you buy from say Newegg there isnt a guarantee the board will come updated as Newegg keeps old stock and doesnt follow FIFO rule.
but ig if you're planning 2700 first anyways
no point in worrying over preinstalled BIOS
buoyant flame
yep pretty much
cursive wharf
Anyways, the Strix usually isnt worth it unless on sale
fallen bolt
Fair enough I'm shopping around for a friend who decided to go AMD instead of Intel and want to make sure I point them in the right direction. So shopping around. Overclocking is a non issue they've got no interest in it
buoyant flame
internet lol
cursive wharf
why download RAM when you can download OC?
fallen bolt
Damn it lol
cursive wharf
Tho for mobo, unless you live in a place where prices are different then I'd go for b450 TUF Pro Gaming (mATX is best for price. Also Plus Gaming sucks so make sure to get Pro) or b450 Gigabyte Aorus Pro WiFi
buoyant flame
those are the 2 best b450 board out there rn that aren't crazy expensive imo
fallen bolt
Thank you for the suggestions. Much appreciated
velvet gull
Can someone recommend a reasonably priced motherboard that supports the 1920x Ryzen Threadripper CPU?
mellow rune
cursive wharf
@velvet gull Do you already have that CPU or smth?
If not then you'd have a hard time buying the CPU+mobo and have it be cheaper then 2700x+mobo or smth. Unless you need them PCIe lanes
celest horizon
X399 is a great platform if you happen to enjoy troubleshooting.
A 1920x can be found quite cheaply, as can a few other 1st gen threadrippers, but I would never recommend such a setup to someone who wants a "plug and play" experience.
dapper solstice
hey can someone look over this planned build? ive done my fair share of research and just want a more experienced person to look over it.
i made it for streaming and gaming
astral flame
Thats a 450w psu
stoic island
Just a warning, that industrial fan will be loud AF @dapper solstice
you might not want it.
the psu should be fine
ultrawide gaming is... eh
idk how that would work with streaming
you can definally get a better keyboard and mouse
from switching to smth not razer
tho I think the huntsman is okay
dapper solstice
I wanted to pick something that'll keep the components cool and thought noctua would work
Ive also looked at how ultrawide would work with streaming but im leaning towards dual 16:9 monitors
stoic island
The thing is
industrial fans are made for industrial uses
they'll sound like a jet engine
a different noctua fan would work just fine
for example, something like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dwR48d/noctua-case-fan-nfa14pwm
dual 1080p monitors should be fun
usually you don't need a ... thing ... but anyways
wait a second
@dapper solstice is there a reason you're getting a SFX PSU then a SFX-ATX converter thing?
dapper solstice
People say its recommended to use sfx psu for this case so you can get extra space
stoic island
why not use a different case?
you could also use ATX cases with a mATX board
and get a case like the p300a or smth
dapper solstice
i wanted to keep it small
little osprey
Does anyone know if the stock heatsink on the aorus elite is enough for the sabberent rocket 4 m.2 or should I just get the heatsink with the m.2
dapper solstice
what kind of aorus elite
but the heatsink on the sabrent looks like it might do better but im not an expert on heatsinks
old furnace
hey i have gigabyte b450m-d3sh and im trying to figure out what the best RGB ATX case to get. i like a roomy case and i have 3 drives that im using and wondering what do yall recommend? no budget.
little osprey
What's the best build rn for around 1000aud
sudden turret
¯_(ツ)_/¯
lost crane
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/f2qvNq what i could come up with might be more with everything going on atm affecting prices in other countries, but in the US this is what you can get with the money retail.you can also do way better if you look for used gpus
winged hollow
anyone got an idea what a good build would be for around $1000 usd
analog hearth
I built my system with a 3600 and a 5700 with 16GB @ 3200MHz CL16 and it can handle 1440p with ease
All for just under $1000 now
You can most likely build it for cheaper now
subtle halo
smirk amd gang
buoyant flame
@old furnace I would recommemd the cooler master h500. Its a roomy case and has killer airflow. For any other questions tho let's go to #cases-psu-and-cooling because there's a lot of questions in here rn
stoic island
This seems like a fair build for 1000 USD
Actually, @winged hollow with or without monitor
winged hollow
without
stoic island
then yea, thats a fair build for 1000 usd
you could prob fit in a 5700xt if you want to go team red, but that comes with driver issues
Nvidia is more plug and play
analog hearth
^ agreed
latent storm
hey i’m really new to pc building but i wanna build my first one
i chose parts last night and just wanted to know if it was any good
stoic island
Can you put that in a https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ ?
buoyant flame
Cough (and take out the tomahawk) cough
latent storm
i can put it in pc part picker sorry it was like 4am and i didn’t have my laptop with me
i’m getting a compatibility warning
why should i take out the tomahawk @buoyant flame
winged hollow
that’s normal with b450 mobos. you might have to update the bios
the compatibility warning
latent storm
oh yeah you’re right, i would need a different cpu to update it wouldn’t i
winged hollow
i’m gonna be honest the mobo compatibility issue is the only thing i know about because that’s what all my friends builds use
that’s the extent of my knowledge
latent storm
Any specific reason why?
buoyant flame
Bad sound and network chip
latent storm
i completely neglected that, does the b450 pro you suggested have built in wifi?
buoyant flame
no it doesnt but if you want that i would recommend the b450 aorus pro wifi
latent storm
would i have to update the bios with that board
cursive wharf
@buoyant flame while I do say worse network chip for Tomahawk compared to boards at same price, I'm specifically comparing to Pro Wifi for that one thing. TUF Pro has same LAN chip as Tomahawk
@latent storm also get a SATA SSD as well as change the PSU. The NVMe costs too much and is just slightly cheaper then SATA SSDs that have twice the storage. Usually why NVMe isn't worth it until at least 512gb. As for PSU, quality just isn't that good. Get Corsair CX. Also can get a Windows key for like $20 or so
latent storm
@cursive wharf i’m talking to people i know irl in a different server as well as you guys and made the switch to the aorus pro wifi b450 and i was also convinced to go with the samsung 970 evo because it was twice the storage (512gb) and it’s name brand so it’s more reliable i guess. i was just trying to get something cheap for the psu but i was told that’s not a great idea, and my buddy told me he can get me a windows key really cheap so i’m not worried about that
latent storm
i get that but i don’t wanna cheap out on stuff because i want to keep this system for like a couple years
stoic island
It won't be cheaping out?
foggy hazel
@latent storm the EVO is overpriced
stoic island
even if you go for like a samsung 860qvo
foggy hazel
but okay, if you are okay with paying for a logo that wont matter for the internals, then the EVO is a good choice @latent storm
stoic island
Oh hey naed you got your techie back
foggy hazel
aye, 2 days ago
latent storm
they told me to go with name brand for my boot drive i don’t really understand why but they know a lot more than i do
foggy hazel
if that is their reasoning, all they know is the brand name.
because there is no logical reason for that choice
latent storm
they said it’s more reliable
foggy hazel
it isnt
stoic island
There are drives that can be even more reliable
latent storm
this is what i was going to get originally but they said since it’s not name brand i shouldn’t use it
foggy hazel
there is a big jump from the bottom of the list to the most expensive item on the list
latent storm
what do you mean naed
foggy hazel
i mean: their knee-jerk response seems to be "lets choose something that is silly levels of more expensive"
stoic island
Even the 512gb version is much cheaper than a 500gb 970 evo
https://www.newegg.com/silicon-power-p34a80-512gb/p/N82E16820301394
I actually didn't know how good that ssd was before I checked the specs
foggy hazel
@latent storm have you got an updated pcpartpicker list?
latent storm
okay so if i’m understanding correctly, i shouldn’t use a 970 evo?
foggy hazel
the 970evo is overpriced for what it gives you
stoic island
970 evo is not a bad SSD, its just a really expensive SSD.
latent storm
i changed mobo to aorus b450 pro wifi and that’s about it so far
stoic island
that mobo should be fine
foggy hazel
give me 30 seconds to make an updated list for you
latent storm
i was told to look into wd or patriot for an nvme ssd
stoic island
WD SN750 can be good
foggy hazel
here @latent storm https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JbG9yk
stoic island
still, this is actually a good ssd
https://www.newegg.com/silicon-power-p34a80-512gb/p/N82E16820301394
foggy hazel
updated list for you
i did not touch the m.2 (on purpose)
and i adjusted the OS price to reflect what you will most likely be paying for it
latent storm
okay and also i was told to go with at least a 700watt psu to have headroom later down the road and probably one that’s better than bronze certified
i’m willing to spend more money if i have to on a better psu
latent storm
i know but doesn’t it mean it’s more efficient or something
stoic island
550w can support 3900x + 2080ti
foggy hazel
@latent storm please tell your friends to actually read some reviews, because 700w is NOT needed for a system remotely close to what you are doing
foggy hazel
and if they dont want to listen, i will happily pay a visit and have a chat with them about it
latent storm
also how do i save the list after i edit it on pc part picker
foggy hazel
the CX (2017) is the bottom of the acceptable list of PSUs
just above the CPU part, there is a URL listed
that URL is at all times tied to the specific list you have
stoic island
(not the bottom of the entire list, just like "the worst of the best")
foggy hazel
meaning. IF you change anything on the list, the URL will change too
latent storm
alright cool
buoyant flame
@cursive wharf thx I didn't notice that I'll keep it in mind
latent storm
alright i changed the mobo and psu, i don’t need to change the ssd or anything else, correct? @foggy hazel
foggy hazel
if you check the list i linked earlier, that had the things you wanted :)
foggy hazel
personally i would
if it doesnt break your budget, i definitely would
also, please ask yourself this: Do you actually need that 2tb HDD?
latent storm
i just don’t want to have to be conscious of what i download, i want to be able to have extra storage
can someone pls tell me the difference between these two
teal bison
I just recently broke 500gb after like 2 or 3 years, now granted I dont play a whole lot of different games but still
stoic island
A60 is dramless, and has a worse controller
latent storm
isn’t dram what you want in an ssd
stoic island
Yes
stoic island
ya
latent storm
alright
can someone look over this and make sure it’s all good pls
that’s final build i think
foggy hazel
that looks fine
foggy hazel
just to make certain @latent storm you are not paying 100+ usd for the OS right?
latent storm
yeah i was thinking about that
not if i don’t have to
i do wanna get a different case, naed do you have any recommendations?
for like not an absurd amount of $
foggy hazel
next step up is either the Meshify c or the phantek 400a @stoic island thats the one you have right?
stoic island
I have the focus g
It works, nothing bad about it, just kinda the bottom of the acceptable list
foggy hazel
ah, thought you had the phantek one
teal bison
What about the p300a?
latent storm
i want one with some included fans, preferably 2
foggy hazel
that might be the one i am thinking about @teal bison
latent storm
i think that’s why i chose the one i have
latent storm
i’d like to have a tempered glass side panel :/
teal bison
Ya p400a digital comes with 4 fans, 3 of which are rgb if you want that
foggy hazel
@latent storm click the first link of the 2 i posted above
see the "choose type" dropdown?
latent storm
yes i do
foggy hazel
meaning, there is a glass version of the case :)
foggy hazel
:)
foggy hazel
but, do have a look at the phantek p400a that @teal bison mentioned earlier
no, it is not modular. that is the trade-off for that specific model
latent storm
i did not look at it, not gonna lie
should i invest in at least semi modular?
the case looks like it has a psu shroud
foggy hazel
modular = convenience when it comes down to it
stoic island
Oh and Naed, with the PSU that makes it easier to cable manage, is that semi-modular or full modular?
latent storm
probably full
if i had to guess
@foggy hazel would just something like this be good?
foggy hazel
no
the CXM is not a good one
@stoic island technically you could say the full modular is easier. but it very much is nitpicking imo
celest horizon
Full modular = 110% chance I'm going to mix up the 24 pin atx cable along with the rest 🙃
latent storm
oh shoot
celest horizon
Mostly kidding - non-issue unless you have a bunch of PSU's from different brands.
latent storm
my friends are recommending 80+ gold at least
deep skiff
a solid 80+ bronze could be better than a bad 80+ gold
latent storm
true
foggy hazel
your friends seem more worried about the sticker on the front instead of the actual parts inside the box
deep skiff
^
celest horizon
Stickers add fps https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i9-9th-Generation-Sticker-18-x-18mm-Case-Badge/254339346485
stoic island
lol yea
These lower temps https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-pcs-Genuine-Noctua-Owl-Metal-Badges-Stickers/254442558784?hash=item3b3df55540:g:RYwAAOSwRDRd5xsu
latent storm
hey uhh now i need a monitor
stoic island
1080p or 1440p
latent storm
the 2060 super can do 1440p, right?
latent storm
i wanna be able to get 120fps if possible on 1080
latent storm
would like 1440p 90hz be possible
latent storm
alright so like i’ll aim for 1080p120 or 1440p60?
dark mango
Hi, I got a ryzen 2200g, how fast the RAM should be? Is 2400Mhz alright?
foggy hazel
3200 if possible.
foggy hazel
the AOC is a VA panel
stoic island
VA panel
VA panels are good
ips can be better. but more expensive
TN usually are bad
VA is a pretty common panel, my monitor rn has a VA panel.
latent storm
aren’t tn the ones with uhh bad color accuracy and viewing angles?
deep skiff
those are tn
va has really good contrast ratios and price, but some have ghosting issues
latent storm
ghosting?
latent storm
should i get dual monitors
latent storm
i was aiming for ~$1000 for pc excluding monitors/peripherals
which i kinda hit
and it’s another like ~290 for two monitors
foggy hazel
for two low end monitors yes
sacred obsidian
depending on your build, if you're gaming you can spend that money on a better monitor
foggy hazel
consider the following @latent storm
sacred obsidian
latent storm
i have a 48” desk
foggy hazel
what is your representation of the performance of your system ?
stoic island
@foggy hazel they were considering a 3600+2060S
latent storm
@foggy hazel what do you even mean lmao
deep skiff
like how many fps do you think youll get
latent storm
oh i expect to be able to play 1080p high maybe 120fps and 1440p med/low 60fps
idk if that’s realistic tho :/
foggy hazel
@latent storm i mean, which piece of kit tells you how fast your machine is?
latent storm
oh i’d say mostly gpu
foggy hazel
oh?
would the monitor not be a practical piece of kit to actually watch the actual performance with?
the point is: dont try and skimp on your monitor
it is what you use, together with your mouse, keyboard and headphones/speakers to interact with the actual machine
latent storm
well i knew that but you asked which part mostly determines how fast your machine is
is that monitor someone suggested up above good for a first?
24” 144hz 1080p monitor
foggy hazel
personally not a big fan of curved monitors below 27inch
but aside from that, that model is okay
stoic island
yea 24in curved isn't that different from flat, but it being curved isn't making it much more expensive.
foggy hazel
it does however make it take up a bit more space, and it makes it fairly impractical for potential vertical use
stoic island
afaik this is for desk use, thats why I believed it to be a good choice.
foggy hazel
aye, not saying it isnt a solid choice
just that there are things to consider potentially :)
stoic island
There really are many more things I am not looking into, but I continue to happily jump to my conclusions. :)
formal coyote
i personally hate curved monitors, sometimes are more expensive and like mentioned before, terrible if used verticaly. go for a good 24-27in 144-165hz 1ms monitor. if you can afford a 1440p one go for it, else 1080p is fine
stoic island
I personally don't find a need for vertical displays, so curved seems perfect to me.
dapper solstice
hey just a heads up, if you have a laptop with windows 10 you can link the windows key to your microsoft account and not need to buy a key
then use the $20 towards something like peripherals
fresh summit
long story short friend wants to build a pc for $800USD here is the list i made
btw games he will be playing is pubg and siege both 1080p
cursive wharf
@fresh summit I'd go for this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hc6GV7
Got a better GPU in turn for saving on costs for components that dont matter much
cursive wharf
Cheap NVMe can be an fun thing to go around
fresh summit
ok
cursive wharf
Im kinda lazy to fully look into it, but controller/cache/layer count/NAND type are most or all of the things to consider for an SSD
fresh summit
ok
so that sata isnt as fast but is better if im understanding right
better in every other catagory
cursive wharf
It may not be, but I usually get sketched out on cheap NVMe due to poor controller or lack of a decent cache setup. I think P1 has an okay cache setup, but idk how well everything else really is
fresh summit
ok so either go with the one you listed or do some research
cursive wharf
So say like the Intel 660p. It has a poor cache setup which during some workloads can make it worse then even standard SATA SSDs
fresh summit
ohh
cursive wharf
I do know that the Vulcan is a high end SATA drive at least, so there is that
fresh summit
ok ill go with it thanks for your help
stoic island
@cursive wharf what do you think of the silicon power P34A80? spec wise looks pretty good, good controller, had dram, and cheap with tlc.
sturdy socket
@oak moss how would you have done the monitors? I have actually been trying to think of a new solution
oak moss
@sturdy socket i just like the side by side
cursive wharf
@stoic island A80 is pretty good afaik
stoic island
alright ty
mossy pine
Does msi b450m pro vdh max have wifi and bluetooth capability
buoyant flame
Oof
sour osprey
question - if anyone is around
I recently received an RMA'd 2070 because my 1080 had bad artifacts, I'm again artifacting, I had bought a fan controller that had a high and low setting which i found out the low just brings it to 7v which I know can be hard on a PSU i uninstalled that and thought it had "fixed" the artifacts but they started up again today. My PSU numbers look fine in BIOS and I'm not sure if it's just another bad GPU
mossy pine
So how can i add bluetooth
cursive wharf
@sour osprey It shouldnt be hard on the PSU because the PSU doesnt supply 7v; only 3.3v, 5v, and 12v. You can take 5v 1.4a and run it at 7v 1a due to it being the same wattage. That is most likely what that fan controller did
solid wren
Hello all, I recently purchased a new GPU (EVGA RTX 2060) and it looks like it didn't come with a power cable. Would anyone be able to recommend one and send a link? I have a corsair HX 750 with open 6 and 8pin slots and the GPU looks like it needs a male 8pin connection. All my google searches are coming up with adapters! Seems like this would be a common cable....
sacred obsidian
the power cable should have come with your PSU. is your PSU modular?
i googled it and it is. So do you still have the box, or know where you might have kept all the other cables?
sour osprey
@cursive wharf I emailed EVGA I think it might just be a bad RMA'd card
solid wren
@sacred obsidian Ah thanks, unfortunately I was gifted it so I don't have any of the other cables. Do you know where I could pick one up?
sacred obsidian
or you can look on ebay for second hand parts. Just search for corsair HX 750 power cables and make sure it has the correct pins and is compatible with the psu you have. For the 2060, on the link above you can see the 2 right most cables have 8 pins on one side, and 8 pins on the other side that 2 split off of. You would use that and put the 6pins with the 2 split off into the PSU and the full 8 pin side into the PSU
little osprey
Are phanteks amp wires any good
shut rampart
I need help anyone able to help me?
foggy hazel
if you ask your question, people can see if they are able to help.
foggy hazel
what are you trying to fix?
foggy hazel
the drive you are installing to, has it been used for a windows install before?
shut rampart
Yes
foggy hazel
and you are certain there is nothing on the drive that you need to save/keep?
foggy hazel
your photo is a bit murky, so i will ask for clarification:
first photo, does it say Drive 1 next to both?
nvm
just select partition 2
foggy hazel
just delete that
shut rampart
And install it on there
foggy hazel
just delete, and then select the unpartitioned space as the location for the install
shut rampart
So this one?
foggy hazel
aye
foggy hazel
try and see what it says later on
shut rampart
Doesn’t;t let me click next
foggy hazel
if it doesnt want to let you install, unfold the "show details" at the bottom, and send a picture of that
shut rampart
foggy hazel
i would rather have your mainboard model
because then i can just look up the specific location you need to go
foggy hazel
plugin the usb stick and DONT boot in UEFI mode
shut rampart
Save and exit?
foggy hazel
save changes and reboot yes
and then when it reboots, press f11
when it is in the POST process
foggy hazel
DONT select the UEFI option.
foggy hazel
yes
shut rampart
So press that?
foggy hazel
hm, try the UEFI option then
foggy hazel
if one doesnt work, then we just try the other :)
foggy hazel
and it wont allow you to delete the small partition either?
foggy hazel
try and see if it actually allows that
shut rampart
It does
foggy hazel
so you just have 1 big lump of unallocated space now?
foggy hazel
aye, it will work now
shut rampart
Thanks for the help ❤️
foggy hazel
there should not be any surprises left for you
mossy pine
Hi. How can i add bluetooth to my conputer?
foggy hazel
you are very welcome @shut rampart
@mossy pine either by USB dongle or by add-in-card
shut rampart
Also what’s the difference between UEFI and sandisk
foggy hazel
[uefi] sandisk <- is the usb stick being booted in uefi mode
mossy pine
Which would be better?
foggy hazel
sandisk <- is the usb stick being booted in legacy mode
foggy hazel
@mossy pine what do you need bluetooth for?
mossy pine
Well i tried connecting my xbox controller to play games
foggy hazel
you might have to buy a wireless adapter for that, for all the quirky hardware i have dealt with, i have not actually tried any of the new xbox controllers
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/xbox-wireless-adapter-for-windows-10/91dqrb97l130?activetab=pivot%3Aoverviewtab <- it looks like that
mossy pine
I thought my board have wifi and bluetooth when i bought it but it dont
Im trying to get a wireless controller and xbox was the only thing i had available atm
foggy hazel
the wireless adapter i am talking about above, is wireless in the sense that it is specifically for the xbox controller to communicate with a PC
mossy pine
Yes im not trying to use xbox controller all the time. Was just trying to see how it would work
foggy hazel
all i can offer you is to ask someone else. because i dont know the details about any potential lock-ins for that controller.
so i dont know if it is possible with a normal dongle/AIC
mossy pine
I cany find any cards. Its all dongles
shut rampart
I never saw this when I installed windows the last time
foggy hazel
that has been part of the process since day 1 of windows 10
foggy hazel
windows update will take care of a fair deal of it
shut rampart
I installed drivers before
But since I nuked my ssd
Do I have to install it again?
I will just install it
shut rampart
Yup
foggy hazel
logic would seem to indicate that you need to install things if you want them there again then.
foggy bough
how much better is water/liquid coolling on a cpu over air cooling
sullen spoke
Most aios are about the same as air, custom water can be better if you have more radiator
The more radiator surface area the better the cooling
buoyant flame
Most aio coolers tend to be quieter while under load tho
little osprey
Would This Be A Good Setup?
CPU:Intel Core i7-8700K. $389
GPU:ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1060 AMP Edition $219.99
HDD:Seagate BarraCuda 2TB Internal Hard Drive HDD – 3.5 Inch SATA 6Gb/s 7200 RPM 256MB Cache.$49.99
SSD:Intel 660p NVME M.2 1TB capacity: 1TB interface: NVME M.2 $122.99.
Computer Case:NZXT - H510 Compact ATX Mid-Tower Case with Tempered Glass - Red/Matte Black $69.99
Motherboard:ASRock B365M Phantom Gaming 4 LGA 1151 (300 Series) Intel B365 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX Intel Motherboard $84.99
Fans:Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM $41.53
Memory:Corsair Vengeance LPX X2 32GB Of RAM $71.99
Monitors X2:MSI Optix G24C 23.6" Full HD 1920 x 1080 1ms (MPRT) 144 Hz 110% sRGB DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort AMD FreeSync Non-Glare Curved Gaming Monitor $360.00
Keyboard:Razer BlackWidow Elite Mechanical Gaming Keyboard: $140.00
Mouse:Logitech G403 Prodigy Gaming Mouse, Black/Blue $70.00
Power Supply:EVGA 600 GD 100-GD-0600-V1 600W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Non-Modular
Active PFC Power Supply $69.99
Mic:Razer Seiren $69.99
Headset:Hyperx CloudStinger $50.00
narrow rose
thats an odd choice of GPU with that CPU
it certainly wont be driving two 144hz monitors at 144hz in my opinion
narrow rose
LOL true
this would be a much better GPU choice
and its $10 cheaper
@little osprey
little osprey
Ok
pliant nova
Hi all
little osprey
first time ever building a pc
pliant nova
Could I ask for laptop purchasing support?
little osprey
Straight Fax
pliant nova
My current laptop is a Asus ROG GL752VW
little osprey
pliant nova
I have an ssd and my mechanical hard drive in here.
I am more or less on the lookout for a new machine
I know I have been here before and gotten some thoughts
but I would always like more
narrow rose
@little osprey also if money isnt really a constraint a 2070S would be even better with that CPU but also about $300 more 😉
little osprey
Damn Ok
still roostBOT
Faith#4360 has been warned
buoyant flame
Whoops lol
narrow rose
but a 1660S is respectable card and will run pretty much everything at 1080p
buoyant flame
I dont want to, nor do I have time to, remake his list, and I also don't want to sound like a broken record, but wouldn't he be able to invest more in his gpu if he switched to a ryzen based platform
narrow rose
to be honest only if I could also afford a 2070S or better
narrow rose
I would also get a 8700k over a 9700k any day of the week
narrow rose
I have 2 8700k's both OC to 5.3ghz on all cores I used to have 2 9700k's (sold one) but neither could get over 5.0ghz stable. Also I had all 4 cpus delidded. Now I could just be unlucky but from the videos I've seen others results seem to be the same
also I think the 8700k has more threads but dont quote me on that
buoyant flame
Ok lol Idk about the threads
Nvm I was going to say something but it doesn't actually apply lol
narrow rose
for me with the only intensive thing I do on my PC being gaming single core clock speed seems to help the most
buoyant flame
What cooler do you have that got you to 5ghz
Oh wait nvm you have a custom loop right?
buoyant flame
Ok cool
narrow rose
its a little loud and there might be better ones now but it sure can cool
buoyant flame
😎
cursive wharf
@narrow rose 8700k has more threads, but less cores. Total perf is about the same on average if set to same clock speed
sour osprey
question, is it possible for a bad PSU (which mine shows no signs of, but I just don't want to believe I got a bad RMA) to have ruined my first GPU, though i did have artifacts pretty instantly, and now my current RMA'd GPU? Before I have them RMA this one. I am going to test the GPU on a different system today
sullen spoke
a bad PSU can ruin anything, if it puts too much power through a component it can blow a circuit
doesn't happen too often, but anything can happen
cold sorrel
Man, the price on the Ryzen 3600 right now is really good.
buoyant flame
yep
cold sorrel
I'm circling around planning to build a new computer. Will be the first one I've built myself.
buoyant flame
awesome!
cold sorrel
Because I'm tired of the habit of this laptop wanting to overheat when I play games. It lived about four years, it had a good run. I might still keep it for when I want to surf the Internet from bed.
sudden turret
pop off the bottom, clean out all the dust?
maybe repaste the heatsink, it's fairly simple
cold sorrel
Another issue is I can't really close it anymore. (One of the hinges froze up)
(The screen being stuck open is why I'm afraid to even think about trying to take the bottom off to get to the fans)
sacred obsidian
you can try to carefully take apart the laptop and grease the hinge or something but you might risk breaking it further if its a plastic shell
raw matrix
the case is the ibuypower snowblind element
my question is what cpu cooler to get or will the stock cpu cooler be fine?
also that 5700xt is a vega 56 until I can afford that 5700xt
cursive wharf
@raw matrix I'd go with this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jLzBx6
raw matrix
everything but the mobo/5700xt is ordered. I'm already using the d plats
was mostly just looking for a cpu cooler haha. and I chose to do taichi because I wanted to try to keep branding down to as few companies to deal with hence a lot of corsair stuff.
cursive wharf
Unless you got those on sale, that was highly overpriced sadly
raw matrix
well that and the taichi motherboard was the most aesthetically pleasing motherboard I could find for under $300
I've had the dplats for a while now, I had gotten them because it was all I could get in 24hours because the ram that came with my current computer was dying or something.
cursive wharf
Well that sucks. Anyways that 5700xt is currently on sale. It'll only be marginally worth it when on sale. If not then it's a waste of money because the 2070S is slightly better in perf and has more features for barely anything more. The mobo is just expensive and consideration you're probs not going to use many of the included features I woundnt suggest it
stoic island
Have you bought the CPU yet?
and what will you be doing with this PC?
Because that CPU would be hugely overkill for many things
raw matrix
I have bought the cpu, there will be gaming with potential streaming once I get my house settled down(cleaning and moving a lot of things)
and would eventually like to learn video editing but that won't be for a while.
and I do understand that the cpu is hugely overkill and I wanted it that way so I don't have to really worry about replacing it for a hell of a long time.
raw matrix
yeah I plan on getting either an air cooler or aio. I mean I'd like to dabble in real water cooling but I can't afford that rn 😂
stoic island
@foggy hazel @cursive wharf Looks like CNPS20X is avaliable now in the US!
https://www.amazon.com/Zalman-Cooler-Patented-Corrugated-Design/dp/B084ZWZXKX/
cursive wharf
@stoic island as much as I like that I'm guessing stock won't last for long. Seems like cases and coolers have basically no US stock recently due to human malware presumably
stoic island
Sadly, but thats the first time I've seen it as a listing, at all.
And also sadly nothing on wegg
stoic island
Nice
austere condor
buoyant flame
Nice do you sell your builds locally or shipped
austere condor
locally
i have shipped in the past, it just gets expensive, and the risk of things breaking is kinda high
so i prefer not to do it
stoic island
damn nice deals
foggy hazel
@stoic island its about darn time
stoic island
Yea
but as hei said, human malware :(
and with amazon possibly canceling non essential orders for the US...
sullen spoke
human malware is sick
raw matrix
alright well if I go with a 2070s then I'll probably swap the asrock motherboard with an asus one and do asus for the motherboard/gpu
cost wise I know it's dumb but I have ocd 😂
frank warren
Hey, someone wanna do me up a build for funsies? 🙂 I've got a cap of $1,000 set by my wife v.v I do 3D sculpting in ZBrush as well as digital 2D art in Photoshop. Struggling to keep it under $1k, and the last build I made I forgot to save, but it was at $1,200 anyway.
raw matrix
tower only or?
frank warren
I've got peripherals, but a single newer monitor would be ideal if it fits in budget.
So ye, tower only primarily
frank warren
ATX
raw matrix
there's that but there's no storage
and that's also going to be before taxes
that one has storage but is just over $1000
honestly though I'd sell you my computer for under $1000 😂
glossy bison
Can I get some help guys
My pc won’t boot and when it finally does it says it failed to boot several times then I can get into bios.
I have reason to believe it’s my RAM acting up. It’s 1600mhz but when I get into bios it says 1333
Also I can’t figure out how to not use the xmp profile. My only options are auto and xmp
Really not sure what’s up. I just replaced my PSU because I thought that was initially the issue. I guess not
frank warren
ty ty air, will take a look ;3
stoic island
Bruh
cursive wharf
@raw matrix I'd advise against those recommendations. Poor RAM choice as they arent 3600MT/s CL16. Can save a bit with R5 3600. x570 is a waste of money for the workload. SSD is DRAMless and is SATA but taking up a valuable NVMe slot. Both 5700XT models dont have great cooling and infact Challenger D OC is one of the worst ones. Also PSU is overpriced
Not to mention a 128gb boot drive is kinda annoying to deal with
clever estuary
buoyant flame
That list got destroyed 
cursive wharf
@frank warren I'd go with this. You may want to consult with someone else as to whether 5700XT or a used R7 is the better option. Tho with specific workstation loads either AMD or Nvidia can be better. Nvidia helps a fair bit due to having so much tech behind them (such as CUDA) while AMD usually wins in their raw compute power. So it depends on the program as to which is a better choice
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pdKyQq
cursive wharf
@raw matrix I'd usually trust EVGA with the low end of the product stack as they generally have the best cooling on the low ends of each GPU model
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xxrYcf/evga-geforce-rtx-2070-super-8-gb-xc-gaming-video-card-08g-p4-3172-kr
stoic island
Yes
buoyant flame
But keep in mind that just because its 600w it doesn't necessarily mean its good
celest horizon
If you have 2080 ti money - you probably have $150-200 to pick up a high end 750w or higher unit.
I'd go with an 850 plat like an EVGA 850PQ or some corsair equivalent
cursive wharf
@raw matrix quite overpriced. I wouldn't go over $30 for a custom model
stoic island
Well 650w would be good enough imo
celest horizon
Such units will have a 10 or 12 year warranty, solid investment imo.
stoic island
but a high quality/tier unit is definally a good idea
cursive wharf
If amazon wasnt dead this would've been good
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/n34BD3/enermax-revolution-df-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-erf650awt
lyric crypt
Are EVGA psu's good
icy plume
depends which one you get
sullen spoke
some of them are, some of them aren't
cursive wharf
tbh almost all of EVGA's PSUs are bad for the price
celest horizon
$200 ebay 1600 T2's tho 🤷♂️
short arrow
ok, im trying to help a friends compile a list.
Here are all the questions i've come up with. Am i missing anything?
What is your budget?
What exactly do you plan to do with your new-fangled PC?
Do you have any major preferences? For example, RGB, an AIO for the cpu, color scheme, etc
Do you have any specific storage needs, such as a need for a specific amount of storage, or for an NVME drive?
Will you be able to use a wired (ethernet) connection, or do you need support for wifi?
Does the list need to include peripherals?
sorry, that's a bit of an essay
Ping me with replies
@celest horizon does that mean I covered all bases lol?
celest horizon
Ya, good questions.
raw matrix
NGL I'm starting to wonder if @cursive wharf is just too cheap :/
buoyant flame
Theres a different between being cheap and not overpaying
stoic island
@short arrow what about size, ATX, mATX, ITX, etc?
sacred obsidian
also if you ignore the price, it still depends on the psu. so like the G+ is good. but the W1 and G5 is bad.
I like evga products tho so i bought an evga psu 😛
however hei is one of the people I would ask when looking for parts he def knows what he is talking about
cursive wharf
@raw matrix I usually say no more then $30 for a GPU model because EVGA has great options for like $15 - $20 more (or less if like 1660S or smth). Unless looking for a specific color or want something high end with multi BIOS there isnt much of a need to get smth else
If it's like $50 more then that money could be put elsewhere in the build
better PSU, more storage, better CPU cooler, etc
heck, even smth like custom cables
raw matrix
I mean I don't have a budget I'm just trying to throw what I'm buying together to be aesthetically pleasing to my eyes and my ocd.
like most things are going to be Corsair based and my motherboard and gpu will be of the same brand for whatever I pick.
sacred obsidian
you can usually do that with cheaper parts. just make sure the psu is modular and the case is good, and the rest is pretty easy
if you want brand synergy thats a different story
cursive wharf
I mean there is always Corsair GPUs
buoyant flame
Brand synergy is overrated lol
cursive wharf
usually AIO based
sacred obsidian
actually I would love brand synergy just for easier software use. im not willing to spend brand synergy money tho lol
stoic island
what about neither and hei makes you a better performing build
stoic island
yea ik
raw matrix
I mean I have everything but the mobo and gpu bought
cursive wharf
@raw matrix You're going with a white case, get the x570 Prime P and probs dont waste $100 on features you'll never use
stoic island
what about wifi
stoic island
x570-p is like 140$
raw matrix
yeah but it's not aesthetically appealing to me and I don't mind paying for something aesthetically appealing to me
raw matrix
I mean if I go with the cooler that you suggested earlier today it'll cover a good portion of the pcb
I'd be down for that gpu lol
stoic island
do it then
raw matrix
if I tried going for a white build
stoic island
what kinda build you trying to do then?
raw matrix
mostly brand synergy trying to keep to as few brands as possible
stoic island
...
why
stoic island
I have a msi gpu, evga psu, noctua cpu cooler, g.skill ram
come at me
oh and corsair ssd
raw matrix
well brand synergy = less companies to deal with in the event of a rma
stoic island
???
raw matrix
I also have OCD about certain things
stoic island
when you need a rma, you only need 1 part to return
cursive wharf
Also what happens if Corsair is a bad customer service?
raw matrix
I've never had bad customer service from them
cursive wharf
not to mention brand synergy can cause issues. Like say doing that for peripherals. Now you have a Corsair mouse that fails often, Corsair headset that is low quality compared to a standard non gaming headset, overpriced keyboard with adequate quality
stoic island
:( I'm using a corsair headset rn
cursive wharf
Corsair mice are actually hilarious tho. My dad had like three failures in a row
raw matrix
you missed the point where I said I don't really care for price and that I have OCD about CERTAIN things.
brand synergy really only triggers me for my tower itself
my OCD is extremely selective on what it kicks in over.
trust me my original game plan was for a $700+ motherboard 😂 but I finally talked myself out of it.
cursive wharf
get a Corsair CPU
raw matrix
really the only reason why I'm deviating from the 5700xt is because I won't be able to buy it before it goes off sale
cursive wharf
dew it
raw matrix
well I might be able to afford it now that the ssd was cancelled
cursive wharf
Cuz you're hardcore on brand synergy then Corsair MP510
cursive wharf
480gb isnt super horrible
raw matrix
dope so I can get the 5700xt but then I have to wait until friday to order my motherboard
cursive wharf
actually MP510 480gb is only $10 more then A80, cheapest decent NVMe
totalling $84
stoic island
yea thats okay
latent storm
hey so i get paid ~$250 on thursday, which part(s) should i buy first
icy plume
what are you thinking for your final budget?
latent storm
i have my list all picked out and ready to start ordering, i just don’t know what i should start with
little osprey
a case to put it in, unless you're using a cardboard box build
little osprey
with $250 you might need to do some scrapyard wars style purchasing
latent storm
nevermind it’s a tn panel
tranquil dust
250 isnt the whole budget
vagrant garnet
What
latent storm
i decided on the msi optix mag27c
stoic island
@latent storm isn't that one 1080p?
1080p 27in isn't great, 1080p 24in is usually good
I have the mag241c
latent storm
it is, what’s wrong with 1080p 27 inch?
buoyant flame
The pixel density makes things look a little off
jaunty sonnet
any good suggestions for a budget build pc? im tryin to build one for my friend.
lyric thistle
what kind of budget?
jaunty sonnet
he said $300 cad but that aint happening for what he would want. i think he wants it to run vr tho.. i have to ask him. he wont accept my friend request on discord and i dont have service half the time
lyric thistle
oof
jaunty sonnet
im tryin for around $900 cad cause he will be willing to pay that after he works a few more weeks
lyric thistle
oh well that's far more manageable
jaunty sonnet
yup and i will also sell him my psu for half the price cause imma be gettin a new one soon
i wanted to go with a 1660 but im over $900 rn
ruby hinge
o crape then go with an amd gpu insted much cheaper
lyric thistle
or a 1650 Super
jaunty sonnet
idk amd gpus lol. im not that smart with pc stuff. i would get my bro to help but hes asleep
ruby hinge
o ok
jaunty sonnet
i probably shouldnt even be trying lol
latent storm
@stoic island does the 24 inch look good?
ruby hinge
no go 27
jaunty sonnet
i have a 2070 super in my pc.
latent storm
but i don’t want the pixel density to be dogshit
jaunty sonnet
alsoo should i go 1660 or 1650 super cause the 1660 is only $20 more and thats shipping
latent storm
1660
jaunty sonnet
okie
anyone wanna take a look at the parts i have picked out for me? im pretty sure they r compatible but like... im dumb so i might be wrong
foggy hazel
@latent storm hello again.
jaunty sonnet
my bro wont listen to me calling him for help lol
foggy hazel
just post them.
foggy hazel
no, just greeting you.
stoic island
@latent storm 24in looks pretty nice
foggy hazel
@jaunty sonnet just post the link(s), and we can have a look at things.
latent storm
i’ll go with the 24 inch
foggy hazel
the advantage there (if your budget is roughly the same stil), is being able to potentially get a better panel
foggy hazel
aye
latent storm
i think i’m gonna i cant imagine i’ll need two 27” monitors
my total with two $200 monitors is now ~$1500
foggy hazel
do yourself a favour, look at the manufacturers page for the actual measurements of the monitor
and then have a serious look with a measuring tape. and see how much space it actually takes up on your desk
not only width, but depth too
latent storm
the thing is i’m not at a place where my desk is easily accessible
dry ridge
What would people be more interested in seeing. 8700k at 6-6.2ghz or 3600x at 5ghz for 24/7 capable.
lyric thistle
a processor that works for them and that they're happy with
buoyant flame
Personally I would pick the 8700k
dry ridge
I am planning a build and am trying to decide which to go with
I am trying to work with a mb company right now to do it with x570 but I don't know how it is going to work out yet
buoyant flame
@late pond do you need wifi?
late pond
Nope
buoyant flame