#building-and-recc-chat | Newegg | Page 481

cursive wharf Feb 24, 2020, 12:26 AM

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@wispy matrix I'd probably go with this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wQLmNq
-mobo picker for decent sound chip (if your sound system isnt by 3.5mm and by USB then probs get a different board)
-RAM is decent quality but cheap
-The P1 is dramless which can make perf suck hard in some scenarios. So I chose a SSD with DRAM, even if SATA I'd recommend in general over a DRAMless NVMe
-case has limited airflow and is kinda pricy, changed it
-PSU is pricy for what it is

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-I picked one high refreshrate monitor for competitive and one that looks nicer for standard work or immersive gaming

orchid talon Feb 24, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Does anyone know a good build for $1000 in a monitor, that’s the amount I would spend to spend and then get a k70 keybored and a good mouse with the rest of my money, I know someone that would build it

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 1:54 AM

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for $1000 in a monitor
wdym

orchid talon Feb 24, 2020, 1:55 AM

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And a monitor

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So like a $800 around ish PC

latent bronze Feb 24, 2020, 1:56 AM

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1080p or 1440p also the most common games you would play

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if it is for gaming

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 1:57 AM

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what

orchid talon Feb 24, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Fortnite mostly because I play in a lot, on Xbox, I go to my brothers to play it on his pc somtimes. But other games like rainbow, csgo, and gta

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Is 1080p cheaper right

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 1:58 AM

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1080p cheaper

orchid talon Feb 24, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Then most likely that

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I also would like to stream

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My brother has a 1660ti

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 1:59 AM

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I'll put a list together

orchid talon Feb 24, 2020, 1:59 AM

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And I think a i5 or I7 not 100% sure

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And i was getting good FPS on that

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 1:59 AM

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These days are AMD days

latent bronze Feb 24, 2020, 1:59 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/prkQK4

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work with that

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 2:00 AM

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wait ecks

latent bronze Feb 24, 2020, 2:00 AM

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1660 Super and 1660 Ti you would see very little difference

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 2:00 AM

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lemme just

orchid talon Feb 24, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Doesn’t ryzen come with a fan @latent bronze

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 2:01 AM

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yes

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This is my take on it
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vthzXv

System Builder

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including monitor

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actually

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one sec

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picked the wrong 2060

orchid talon Feb 24, 2020, 2:02 AM

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What about like a ryzen 5 2600x?

latent bronze Feb 24, 2020, 2:02 AM

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It does come with a cooler but to some people on here they were complaining about the noise of the fan on it

teal bison Feb 24, 2020, 2:03 AM

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whats the list for? from what i understand 1080p gaming?

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 2:03 AM

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wait nvm it works

orchid talon Feb 24, 2020, 2:03 AM

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@latent bronze and I will be able to stream fine right?

teal bison Feb 24, 2020, 2:03 AM

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also sorry for jumping in in the middle of the discussion

latent bronze Feb 24, 2020, 2:03 AM

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yep with Nvidia you will stream without any problems

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Drago, yes.

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And yea, nvidia has good encoder

orchid talon Feb 24, 2020, 2:04 AM

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So ryzen 5 2600x isn’t the move

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 2:04 AM

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not really when Ryzen 5 3600 is an option

latent bronze Feb 24, 2020, 2:04 AM

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For the games he is planning on playing the 1660 Super would be more than enough

orchid talon Feb 24, 2020, 2:05 AM

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I would hope for like 144 fps no guttering so yeah basically

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 2:05 AM

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rainbow tho
I barely get 144fps max settings on 2070 xD

orchid talon Feb 24, 2020, 2:05 AM

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I don’t need max settings

latent bronze Feb 24, 2020, 2:05 AM

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R6S people play that on lower setting anyways

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cause for some reason more frames is better for that game

teal bison Feb 24, 2020, 2:05 AM

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for some reason

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 2:06 AM

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more frames is always better in competitive games

latent bronze Feb 24, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Meaning you would see people with a 2080 Super and still play the game on low settings to get 300+ fps

teal bison Feb 24, 2020, 2:06 AM

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i think it was sarcasm

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 2:07 AM

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I lower some settings to keep it 240fps stable, on a 144hz monitor.

latent bronze Feb 24, 2020, 2:07 AM

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YoU dIdNt SaY iT sArCaStIcALlY

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 2:07 AM

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sarcasm is wierd

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I dont like it

sullen spoke Feb 24, 2020, 2:07 AM

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What's sarcasm

orchid talon Feb 24, 2020, 2:07 AM

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I thought FPS doesn’t really matter if you have lower hertz#

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 2:07 AM

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jk I use it and I dont understand it

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it doesn't

sullen spoke Feb 24, 2020, 2:08 AM

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it can make a difference

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but not visually

latent bronze Feb 24, 2020, 2:08 AM

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Piccolo: It's called sarcasm
Goku: oooo what does that taste like

sullen spoke Feb 24, 2020, 2:08 AM

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lower frametime is always better

teal bison Feb 24, 2020, 2:08 AM

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its more cinematic

latent bronze Feb 24, 2020, 2:09 AM

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But ya for 1080p gaming with a 1660 Super would get more than 100 fps

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 2:09 AM

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if you have higher avg, you usually have higher 0.1% lows

sullen spoke Feb 24, 2020, 2:09 AM

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lower frametime = higher fps for those who do not know

latent bronze Feb 24, 2020, 2:09 AM

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i played Fortnite and got 110 fps with my R5 2600 and a 1660

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 2:09 AM

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NOT 144 FPS NOT ACCEPTABLE

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jk

teal bison Feb 24, 2020, 2:09 AM

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@stoic island not all the time tho, the i5 9600k has better avgs but worse 1%s than the 3600

latent bronze Feb 24, 2020, 2:10 AM

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I am on a 72hz monitor

sullen spoke Feb 24, 2020, 2:10 AM

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I can get about 200 fps on lowish with 2070

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 2:10 AM

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usually

latent bronze Feb 24, 2020, 2:10 AM

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cause my monitor can overclock to 72hz 😛

sullen spoke Feb 24, 2020, 2:10 AM

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my 8600k bottlenecks me in overwatch under high settings

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 2:10 AM

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I was using that example to say lowered settings usually mean higher 0.1% lows

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and thats why settings might be lowered

teal bison Feb 24, 2020, 2:11 AM

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im gpu bottlenecked right now, but waiting for ampere before i upgrade

sullen spoke Feb 24, 2020, 2:12 AM

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higher fps than monitor refresh can still help tho, when I play osu I click more accurately at 1800fps than I do at 240fps

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 2:13 AM

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osu boi

sullen spoke Feb 24, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Yawy

latent bronze Feb 24, 2020, 2:18 AM

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@orchid talon You have 2 builds to pick from and at 1080p for most of the games you will get over 100 fps on max settings

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GTA V it is meh with their settings

orchid talon Feb 24, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Well I don’t need max setting

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Pros and most play on really low settings

latent bronze Feb 24, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Well depending on the game

sharp blaze Feb 24, 2020, 8:55 AM

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What motherboard will pair well with a Ryzen 3700x and 2070 super?

foggy hazel Feb 24, 2020, 9:26 AM

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just about any b450/470 board, and all x570 chipset boards

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@sharp blaze see above, and also, what budget do you have for it?

vivid atlas Feb 24, 2020, 2:40 PM

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#peripherals-and-displays

latent bronze Feb 24, 2020, 3:19 PM

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@foggy hazel even a A320 would pair with it

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and the A320's has PBO2 as well

foggy hazel Feb 24, 2020, 3:23 PM

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yes, some of them, the few that has been updated. But, chipset etc is not exactly looking super hot I/O wise on the 320 @latent bronze

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and a 3700x + 2070 super is not exactly scraping the bottom of the budget :)

latent bronze Feb 24, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Well i saw a video of a 3600 with a A320 do a little better than with a X570

foggy hazel Feb 24, 2020, 3:25 PM

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yes, i saw you link it a while back. And i personally think it is silly idea to pair across that many generations.

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yes, it is nice and all IF you have the board already, but for a new build? no.

latent bronze Feb 24, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Well it can depend sometimes when someone wants a high end type of system but a very limited budget

foggy hazel Feb 24, 2020, 3:27 PM

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there are other things can be moved around before then

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no need to back them into a potential corner like that

hearty fern Feb 24, 2020, 3:29 PM

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A320, what a gamer move

old charm Feb 24, 2020, 3:47 PM

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is there any way to fix a stripped usb port?

hearty fern Feb 24, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Is it onboard, or front panel?

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Yes to both for the most part, 2nd one is much easier

old charm Feb 24, 2020, 3:48 PM

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if you mean is it connected to the motherboard no its not

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its part of the case

foggy hazel Feb 24, 2020, 3:49 PM

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front usb = cable connection from the mainboard to the case

old charm Feb 24, 2020, 3:49 PM

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then yes that's what it is

foggy hazel Feb 24, 2020, 3:49 PM

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those are generally fixable

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 3:50 PM

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@old charm have a look at the wire connecting it to the case

foggy hazel Feb 24, 2020, 3:50 PM

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IF you can get to the contact itself (in the case)

old charm Feb 24, 2020, 3:50 PM

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no i mean its not a wire connection issue

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like

foggy hazel Feb 24, 2020, 3:50 PM

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depending on case, you can just order a new one

hearty fern Feb 24, 2020, 3:50 PM

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You can replace that

old charm Feb 24, 2020, 3:50 PM

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the actual physical usb port part got messed up

foggy hazel Feb 24, 2020, 3:50 PM

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i know @old charm

old charm Feb 24, 2020, 3:50 PM

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okay

hearty fern Feb 24, 2020, 3:50 PM

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The port, not the header, replacement is easy

old charm Feb 24, 2020, 3:51 PM

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excellent

foggy hazel Feb 24, 2020, 3:51 PM

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lookup your case, and see if replacement parts are available

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that is the first step

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second is figuring out "how" to get access to it

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again, depending on case, this can either be easy or a PITA

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 3:52 PM

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@old charm what happened to it?

hearty fern Feb 24, 2020, 3:52 PM

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It was destroyed

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 3:52 PM

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Yes, but how

hearty fern Feb 24, 2020, 3:53 PM

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Stripped

old charm Feb 24, 2020, 3:53 PM

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I put this in

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📎 20200224_095302.jpg 📎 20200224_095209.jpg

hearty fern Feb 24, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Oof

old charm Feb 24, 2020, 3:54 PM

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i don't know when this actually happened cuz it was fine when i put it in

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and then i pulled it out and it was like that

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i think I put it in backwards initially

hearty fern Feb 24, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Crunchy

old charm Feb 24, 2020, 3:54 PM

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its the xobx controller i use all the time

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i dont know if that blue in there is part of the controller or it actually phstically ripped the stuff out of hte usb

foggy hazel Feb 24, 2020, 3:55 PM

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simple way to find out, look at the other part :)

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because that "just" looks like a broken connector from the other

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it happens

old charm Feb 24, 2020, 3:56 PM

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im pretty sure its part of the controller

hearty fern Feb 24, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Blue is usb 3.0, so its the ports broken part

old charm Feb 24, 2020, 3:56 PM

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it slides right in

hearty fern Feb 24, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Black is 2.0

old charm Feb 24, 2020, 3:57 PM

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that's what i thought originally

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you're probably right

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damn

hearty fern Feb 24, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Yeah, you need to get that out

old charm Feb 24, 2020, 3:57 PM

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i got it already

hearty fern Feb 24, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Oh

foggy hazel Feb 24, 2020, 3:57 PM

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@hearty fern except in all the cases where those colours dont mean that :)

hearty fern Feb 24, 2020, 3:58 PM

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Well, there aren't xbox controllers with blue tabs

old charm Feb 24, 2020, 3:58 PM

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I don't suppose its as easy as sliding it back in...

hearty fern Feb 24, 2020, 3:58 PM

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Unless its a really special color scheme

foggy hazel Feb 24, 2020, 3:58 PM

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@old charm take a picture of the port you had it plugged into

hearty fern Feb 24, 2020, 3:58 PM

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And you can see the jagged part anyways

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My cosmos 1000 had a stripped usb port or 2

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Never fixed bc no reason to

old charm Feb 24, 2020, 4:00 PM

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📎 20200224_095928.jpg

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s'that good enough?

foggy hazel Feb 24, 2020, 4:00 PM

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aye

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you "just" pulled the plastic part out

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as i said, lookup your case, search for replacement parts for it (that is the simple way around it)

old charm Feb 24, 2020, 4:01 PM

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I'll probably end up doing that

foggy hazel Feb 24, 2020, 4:01 PM

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and after that, it is a question of figuring out how easy it is to swap it

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IF it is a decent case, it is normally quite simple (unplug connector internally in the case, pull the front panel, unscrew a pcb, screw in new pcb, plug in cable internally)

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as mentioned, generally, it is fairly simple.

tired coral Feb 24, 2020, 5:46 PM

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What do you guys think of my new build part list, I’m a little new to this

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CPU: Pentium Gold G5400

Price (USD): $51
GPU 1-4: Titan RTX
Price (USD):10,000
Motherboard: Asus ROG Maximus XI Extreme
Price (USD): $926
RAM: (8x16GB) Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 3200
Price (USD): $999
Storage Drive 1: Seagate IronWolf NAS 16TB
Price (USD): $484
Storage Drive 2: Samsung 970 EVO 2TB
Price (USD): $621
Power Supply: EVGA Supernova 1600 P2
Price (USD): $442
Case: InWin 925
Price (USD): $499
CPU Cooler: ASUS ROG Ryujin 360 RGB
Price (USD): $342
Monitor: Acer Predator X27 bmiphzx
Price (USD): $2099
Case Fans: Corsair LL Series LL120 RGB 120mm Dual Light Loop RGB LED PWM Fan 3 Fan Pack with Lighting Node Pro
Price (USD): $105
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro | Download
Price (USD): $189
Keyboard: Dell Wired Keyboard - Black KB216 (580-ADMT)
Price (USD): $5
Mouse: Logitech Trackman Marble Trackball Mouse - Wired USB Ergonomic Mouse for Computers, with 4 Programmable Buttons, Dark Gray
Price (USD): $22
TOTAL BUILD PRICE: $16780

little osprey Feb 24, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Omg

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Can I get one of those titan RTXs plz

viral ore Feb 24, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Nvlink only supports 2 gpus

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Not 4

still roostBOT Feb 24, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Aero Zeppelin#9826 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

viral ore Feb 24, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Haha u goof

little osprey Feb 24, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Did you see the cpu

viral ore Feb 24, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Yah it's fine

little osprey Feb 24, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Wut

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It's a duo core

viral ore Feb 24, 2020, 5:51 PM

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headpoke

little osprey Feb 24, 2020, 5:51 PM

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RAM

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wuuut

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Bruh

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 6:14 PM

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Hes definitely trolling

noble flower Feb 24, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Im looking to buy a pre built for 750 pounds any ideas?

sharp blaze Feb 24, 2020, 6:27 PM

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@foggy hazel budget is $1300.

little osprey Feb 24, 2020, 6:36 PM

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@noble flower nzxt bld

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 7:00 PM

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@noble flower why not build yourself?

sharp blaze Feb 24, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Build me an AMD/nvidia gaming pc, with $1300, aaaaand GO!!

viral ore Feb 24, 2020, 7:27 PM

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aaaaand NO!!

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Lmao jk

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I'm sure someone here can help, but I busy

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 7:59 PM

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@sharp blaze Alright gimme a sec

sharp blaze Feb 24, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Okay

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 8:08 PM

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@sharp blaze https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WmwWJb

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sharp blaze Feb 24, 2020, 8:30 PM

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@upper condor do those incompatible warnings matter at all?

latent bronze Feb 24, 2020, 8:31 PM

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nope

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Nope

orchid ermine Feb 24, 2020, 9:16 PM

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What you guys think of this build? I need opinions https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JDrLdm

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sullen spoke Feb 24, 2020, 9:21 PM

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you forgot to put storage and a psu @orchid ermine

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also if you are working on a budget the stock cooler that comes with the cpu is sufficient

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no need for a pricey aio

dull axle Feb 24, 2020, 9:39 PM

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thoughts and/or advice? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hdmwmg

icy plume Feb 24, 2020, 9:42 PM

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don't cheap out on the PSU

dull axle Feb 24, 2020, 9:42 PM

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okay gotcha

icy plume Feb 24, 2020, 9:43 PM

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in the pins, there's a PSU tier list from LTT

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look at that and decide accordingly

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and if you can afford to, upgrade your keyboard, but before that, change your memory from 1x16 to 2x8

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and if you're gonna buy a microphone anyways, than spend that $50 on headphones rather than a headset

dull axle Feb 24, 2020, 9:46 PM

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well the motherboard is a 2 slot, so I got confused and good point on the headphones

icy plume Feb 24, 2020, 9:46 PM

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it's a 2 slot, so you'll have just enough room to put in dual-channel memory

sullen spoke Feb 24, 2020, 9:47 PM

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do you need the network card?

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The motherboard has a gigabit ethernet port already

modern shadow Feb 24, 2020, 9:47 PM

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hows this for $700 budget? (I already have a ventus OC 1650)

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QpZgQq

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sullen spoke Feb 24, 2020, 9:48 PM

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on a budget like that I'd recommend getting a AMD cpu and motherboard instead of intel

icy plume Feb 24, 2020, 9:49 PM

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^

modern shadow Feb 24, 2020, 9:49 PM

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I feel like getting a intel, thanks

dull axle Feb 24, 2020, 9:49 PM

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it does? I'm a little dumb. also I thought putting ram right next to each other was a sin

sullen spoke Feb 24, 2020, 9:49 PM

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you can get a Ryzen 5 3600 and like a b450 mobo or something

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amd has much better performance for the price

icy plume Feb 24, 2020, 9:49 PM

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you do you, just know that ryzen has better bang for the buck

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robert, dual-channel ram is pretty much always better, as far as i know

sullen spoke Feb 24, 2020, 9:50 PM

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In a 4 slot mobo, dual channel is usually always in slots 2 and 4

modern shadow Feb 24, 2020, 9:50 PM

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it says "the motherboard M.2 slot #3 shares bandwidth with SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports. When the M.2 slot is populated, two SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports are disabled."

sullen spoke Feb 24, 2020, 9:52 PM

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that's normal. basically means it shares a lane with the sata ports

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only an issue if you have a lot of drives, but you can always make sure you are using the right ports

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dv4cgJ this has better performance for the price overall @modern shadow

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dull axle Feb 24, 2020, 9:56 PM

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okay I changed some stuff up tell me what you think. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mh7QK4

modern shadow Feb 24, 2020, 9:56 PM

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what is this? Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.

sullen spoke Feb 24, 2020, 9:58 PM

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it isn't a problem for most people. basically the B450 boards need a bios update to run 3rd gen ryzen. Newer shipped boards should have the bios already updated

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you can always contact seller to ensure that it is updated

modern shadow Feb 24, 2020, 10:00 PM

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okay thanks guys, i will note that

modern shadow Feb 24, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Just a question: is the WD blue m.2 good?

sullen spoke Feb 24, 2020, 10:21 PM

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I have a wd blue m.2 and I like it

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Hasn't failed me

modern shadow Feb 24, 2020, 10:21 PM

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also about the fractual design G

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Another thing: should i get micro ATX or ATX

sullen spoke Feb 24, 2020, 10:24 PM

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whatever can fit in your case

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Focus G is a good budget case

sullen spoke Feb 24, 2020, 10:25 PM

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micro atx or itx is usually for smaller form factor builds

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 10:25 PM

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I have it, its nice

modern shadow Feb 24, 2020, 10:25 PM

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but micro ATX is cheaper right? I thought it still mostly have everything on a ATX mobo

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Does it have less OC or compatibility?

sullen spoke Feb 24, 2020, 10:28 PM

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it is really up to the model mobo, but usually matx or itx has fewer pcie slots or m.2 slots, that kind of stuff

modern shadow Feb 24, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Okay thanks dude I might post the build in pcpcartpicker soon!

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 10:55 PM

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@wide sparrow max budget?

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@wide sparrow?

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 11:00 PM

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dood

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stop pinging

little osprey Feb 24, 2020, 11:00 PM

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I think I might have found a case https://www.newegg.com/matte-white-black-nzxt-h-series-h510i-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811146320 will this hold all my stuff that i have right now https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B2fCzN?

System Builder

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 11:00 PM

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nzxt cases usually have not-so-great airflow

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 11:01 PM

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And the case isnt what id upgrade first, no offense

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 11:01 PM

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also I thought you needed a 5.5in drive cage or something

little osprey Feb 24, 2020, 11:02 PM

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I said scew to it

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 11:02 PM

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?

little osprey Feb 24, 2020, 11:02 PM

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I do need a New case an RaidMax stop making my case an parts

stoic island Feb 24, 2020, 11:03 PM

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something like this would have better airflow than most NZXT cases
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterCase-Mid-Tower-Controller/dp/B07DRVHBWK/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=h500&qid=1582585395&sr=8-2

wide sparrow Feb 24, 2020, 11:18 PM

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Oh boy

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yeah I need serious help

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Storage is a big problem here

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Mk

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What part of it

wide sparrow Feb 24, 2020, 11:19 PM

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I want something fast, great storage, and affordable

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the crucial mx500

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2.5

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inch

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That's what I'm looking at rn

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Why do you need ssd?

wide sparrow Feb 24, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Speeeeed

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Hdd is a lot cheaper, and you can get really good ones that have decent speed for half the price

lyric thistle Feb 24, 2020, 11:21 PM

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I'd suggest looking at WD Blue, just check prices and options

wide sparrow Feb 24, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Yeah but they're slow and

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can die easily

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 11:22 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dGHRsY/western-digital-black-4tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-wd4005fzbx

Western Digital Black 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

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No.

lyric thistle Feb 24, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Anything has potential to die early in its life cycle

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 11:23 PM

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They dont die easily if you get a good one

wide sparrow Feb 24, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Ok

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 11:23 PM

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And wd black is very noice

wide sparrow Feb 24, 2020, 11:23 PM

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4 is a bit much

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You know a good quality hdd thats 2tb?

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Wd black, 2tb

wide sparrow Feb 24, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Link?

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 11:27 PM

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Or this

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BcQG3C/seagate-barracuda-compute-2-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dmz08dm008

Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

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Good value

lyric thistle Feb 24, 2020, 11:29 PM

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My pc was using a Barracuda from 2014 I think? And it was pretty good, until I upgraded to an SSD, now it sits waiting, as a failsafe I can fall back onto until I build up a backup system

wide sparrow Feb 24, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Wow that's a long time

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but loading screens in high capacity games is an issue for HDD

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I don't want to wait 1 minute

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to be safe....that 2tb HDD doesn't look so bad

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I'll pair it with a sabrent R 1tb

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Yeah

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You could even go 4.0 if you want

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For cheaper than 2tb rocket

wide sparrow Feb 24, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Yeah but only 1tb

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oh well

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I'll just...add a 2tb ssd later (:

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Yes, 5 tb is needed a lot

wide sparrow Feb 24, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Exactly lol

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But what do you think of a 1tbssd+512gbSSD setup?

lyric thistle Feb 24, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Sounds good to me 👀

little osprey Feb 24, 2020, 11:37 PM

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My buddy has a brand new still unopened box asrock b450 mobo he said he’d let me get it for $70 is it worth it?

lyric thistle Feb 24, 2020, 11:37 PM

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I'm currently at only a 500GB, using an external 1TB to suppliment

wide sparrow Feb 24, 2020, 11:38 PM

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My current usage is 660gb....and I know I'll need more

lyric thistle Feb 24, 2020, 11:42 PM

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I did a lot of cleaning up, looking through all my folders for things I could offload or delete

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Started at 475GB, ended with 360GB roughly

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And that ending value is including 80 GB of Steam games, and a virtual organ software with around 60 GB of organs downloaded, both of which I really want to remove from my boot drive in the future

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 11:45 PM

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@little osprey depends, whats its msrp

little osprey Feb 24, 2020, 11:47 PM

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@upper condor 88$ plus tax

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I plan on pairing it with a amd 5 3600

paper ermine Feb 24, 2020, 11:53 PM

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You can anyone help me out. I have the H500P mesh from cooler master. The 2 200 mm fans they turn on but the rgb does not

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 11:53 PM

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Did you plug in the 3 pin headers? @paper ermine

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@little osprey sounds good, make sure to negotiate a refund if doa or broken

little osprey Feb 24, 2020, 11:54 PM

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@upper condor Alright man appreciate the feedback . Is asrock a decent brand ?

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Good enough

little osprey Feb 24, 2020, 11:55 PM

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Alright thank you take care

paper ermine Feb 24, 2020, 11:55 PM

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@upper condor yah, I did

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 11:56 PM

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Hmmmm....

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In the right spot?

paper ermine Feb 24, 2020, 11:56 PM

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I would guess so, cause I moved it to all the other spots and it did the same thing

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 11:57 PM

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Ok..........

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what mobo?

paper ermine Feb 24, 2020, 11:58 PM

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Asus crosshair VIII hero wifi

upper condor Feb 24, 2020, 11:59 PM

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I got no idea

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Ping a techie?

paper ermine Feb 25, 2020, 12:00 AM

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Yah, imma do that

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@austere condor yooo, you have the techie role. Can ya help me out real quick of ya dont mind?

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 12:03 AM

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@paper ermine be patient, most of them have a job involving tech and dont always answer fast :)

paper ermine Feb 25, 2020, 12:05 AM

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I know, I only pinged once. I'm not in a hurry. It's just rgb. So it doesn't exactly matters since the fans spins

strange garden Feb 25, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Opinions of the best addressable RGB fans the work with aura sync and aren’t super pricey? Looking for 2-3 140mm fans

paper ermine Feb 25, 2020, 12:07 AM

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I'm eventually gonna get some corsair rgb fans. I know corsair is a good brand for fans.

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Thats where you make a bit of a mistake

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Good for rgb, not for wallet

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@strange garden mf140 coolermaster

paper ermine Feb 25, 2020, 12:08 AM

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True, I overlooked the one point about price lol

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 12:08 AM

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For performance, get noctua chromax black

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They look good, and perform better

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And cheaper I think

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 12:19 AM

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What do you guy's think? https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Computer-Chassis-preinstalled-CA-1G1-00M1WN-00/dp/B01FG9XS5I/ref=pd_di_sccai_5/143-2216895-2078656?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01FG9XS5I&pd_rd_r=32719409-0a5f-4d6c-813e-78a0423b5962&pd_rd_w=sxlGx&pd_rd_wg=bJiIi&pf_rd_p=e532f109-986a-4c2d-85fc-16555146f6b4&pf_rd_r=4RJM3FVKPHJTH0FR32ZA&psc=1&refRID=4RJM3FVKPHJTH0FR32ZA

austere condor Feb 25, 2020, 12:24 AM

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whats the question?

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 12:25 AM

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I had Amazon help me an they pick this out for my new case what do you think Ya or Na

austere condor Feb 25, 2020, 12:26 AM

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oh

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generally when it comes ti built in RGB fans on a case, there's a male sata power you need to plug into from your power supply

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would look like that @paper ermine

paper ermine Feb 25, 2020, 12:30 AM

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@austere condor yah, I have that plugged in

austere condor Feb 25, 2020, 12:31 AM

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should be buttons on the top of the case somewhere to turn the rgb on

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id recommend looking up a video of the case

paper ermine Feb 25, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Ok, I will do that

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Thank you

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 2:12 AM

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@austere condor I still see some using molex

austere condor Feb 25, 2020, 2:14 AM

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they are corsair LL200mm or ML200's

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if they are still using molex

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thats sad

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 2:32 AM

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I stick with my Rosewill fans which does use Sata

languid dune Feb 25, 2020, 3:03 AM

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Does anyone know what power supply I should get if I have a ryzen 9 and 2080 super?
@little osprey What specific ryzen 9? 3900x or 3950x?

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From an educated guess I would say roughly a 850 watt system just to be safe.

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In theory you could maybe get away with a 650 watt PSU but with the hardware you are going to be rocking I would be safe and get a larger PSU.

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 3:10 AM

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650 is plenty

languid dune Feb 25, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Even though the power consumption was low at 326 watts this GPU wasn't being stressed and you are most likely have a different CPU and component parts

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I know

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but im a guy who is....

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i dont know what to say

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safety guy

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My point is I don't want a low celing roof just in case but that's just me

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 3:12 AM

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650 gives you a lot of room

languid dune Feb 25, 2020, 3:12 AM

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I guess you could do that

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 3:13 AM

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but, there is nothing wrong as such with getting a higher wattage psu

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what matters is getting one that is actually decent, no matter what wattage you decide on.

languid dune Feb 25, 2020, 3:15 AM

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I just like to...you know think a bit of the future. I don't want to say future proof but I don't want to constantly keep changing PSU if you get me and Naed is right. Get a decent quality PSU--you don't want to have your system die because of some Chinese-bootleg PSU.

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 3:56 AM

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My uncle just got me Corsair 3200mhz ram 16gb rgb but my motherboard can only handle up to 2400mhz would it be fine to put in the 3200mhz since I don’t want to be mean and tell him to return it or it is a bad idea and just tell him the truth?

stoic island Feb 25, 2020, 3:58 AM

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@little osprey What motherboard and CPU do you have?

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 3:58 AM

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Msi h270-a pro and i7-7700

viral ore Feb 25, 2020, 3:59 AM

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the board will run the ram at 2133 to start

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then will try to run it at 3200

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if it cant, then they will just run at 2133

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if they can, then your fine

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it wont damage anything

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 4:00 AM

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Ok thanks so much that just took that off my head

viral ore Feb 25, 2020, 4:01 AM

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it is extremely likely that the ram will run at 3200 tho

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and i mean i can almost guarentee it

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 4:01 AM

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Thanks

wintry dragon Feb 25, 2020, 4:36 AM

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would a 650w psu be fine with a 3600x and RTX 2060S build?

viral ore Feb 25, 2020, 4:37 AM

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yeah

wintry dragon Feb 25, 2020, 4:37 AM

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👍 ty

sullen spoke Feb 25, 2020, 5:41 AM

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Always consult the tier list

weak raft Feb 25, 2020, 5:57 AM

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quick question will the b450m steel legend work with ryzen 5 3600 out of box?

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 9:04 AM

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steel legend is just an overpriced Pro4 tbh

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but as for that, it'd depend on the seller and if they have new stock

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if stock is old then you could get a board that is so old to the point of not having the BIOS from the manufacturer

cedar portal Feb 25, 2020, 9:20 AM

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@weak raft Mine had labels indicating that it would. But I put a 1600 AF in it

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I bought it from AsRock directly through Amazon.

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my only real complaint is that the LEDs on the chipset don't have a diffuser, but that is probably down to ventilation requirements

weak raft Feb 25, 2020, 3:30 PM

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@cedar portal thank you!

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 3:59 PM

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@wide sparrow hows ur build lookin

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 4:00 PM

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One sec

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You won't be happy

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pY9kHB

System Builder

stoic island Feb 25, 2020, 4:01 PM

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looks good

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I like it

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@wide sparrow why extra RGB fans wheres already those front fans on the TD500?

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 4:01 PM

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Any reason for ram or psu?

stoic island Feb 25, 2020, 4:02 PM

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oh wait

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Rgb

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Thermaltake

stoic island Feb 25, 2020, 4:02 PM

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theres 3 empty fan slots

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I forgot

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that PSU is nice but you can go down to 650w

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actually you could get these ram
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JgLwrH/gskill-trident-z-neo-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gtznc

G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 4:03 PM

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3 fans for air cooler

stoic island Feb 25, 2020, 4:03 PM

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bruh why

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Really

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 4:03 PM

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push and pull

stoic island Feb 25, 2020, 4:03 PM

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those 3 fans are case fans you mean

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Why get the black one then

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 4:03 PM

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and RGB

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xd

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Oh nvm

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 4:03 PM

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well

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Get 3 pack of mf120

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Cheaper

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And aura sync

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Oh boy. Link me up

stoic island Feb 25, 2020, 4:04 PM

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they're not cheaper

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 4:04 PM

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But does it have good static pressure?

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 4:04 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Gb66Mp/cooler-master-mf120r-argb-3in1-59-cfm-120mm-fans-r4-120r-203c-r1

Cooler Master MF120R ARGB 3in1 59 CFM 120 mm Fans

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Same price

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But its aura sync

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And higher cfm

stoic island Feb 25, 2020, 4:05 PM

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also for some reason

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wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Mmmmm

stoic island Feb 25, 2020, 4:05 PM

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no pwm would be bad

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so gotta check that rq

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Brb

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need to call the IRS

stoic island Feb 25, 2020, 4:06 PM

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its pwm

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they had a typo

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lofty swan Feb 25, 2020, 4:12 PM

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hi

teal bison Feb 25, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Hi

stoic island Feb 25, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Hi

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Hi

viral ore Feb 25, 2020, 4:23 PM

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Hi

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Hi

tranquil dust Feb 25, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Hi

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 4:49 PM

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OK that's enough (●__●)

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So dont get it because of not having 4 pins

foggy stag Feb 25, 2020, 5:34 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NdYMMc

System Builder

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Anything wrong with this as a sub $800 build?

stoic island Feb 25, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Get ripjaw v 3600mhz cl16 for like 10$ more

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I'm not too familiar with the PSU but I think it's okay

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Consult the tier list in pinned messages

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 7:11 PM

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latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 7:12 PM

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If the cooler master case has a fan control box better make sure it would be compatible with the fans you picked

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 7:12 PM

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How would I know?

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 7:13 PM

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You'd look at the case and fan headers

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 7:13 PM

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Dont get a cooler master case @wide sparrow

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There quality is meh

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Their

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Depends on the case

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Usually cm isnt the greatest

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 7:14 PM

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this case didn't even come out yet

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 7:14 PM

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There fans and such are bad

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 7:14 PM

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LOL

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Mmmm

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 7:14 PM

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I am using a Cooler Master fan on my CPU cooler and it is working out great and silent

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Too much plastic

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For 90 you can get an h500

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 7:16 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20200225-1415202.png

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Or any fractal case

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Does it come with case fans and in white?

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 7:18 PM

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The H500 from NZXT comes with 2 non RGB fans

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@little osprey Also you have to be more specific when saying H500 cause there is one from NZXT and one from Cooler Master

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 7:19 PM

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H510 nzxt

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So @wide sparrow you want rgb to the max?

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 7:20 PM

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😏

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Yeah you can get the h510 in white

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Also the case JP picked is all white

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 7:20 PM

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The fans will be black

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Oh no

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 7:20 PM

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inside is black on the H510

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 7:21 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20200225-132130_Google.jpg

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 7:21 PM

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But the airflow?

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And cable management?

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Id suggest my case but for fans are proprietary

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This is my case great airflow but like i said you have to use their fans if using their control box https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147298

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the 4 included is more than enough since i never had any heating issues

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Cable management as well is very good

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 7:27 PM

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little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 7:29 PM

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H510 is good for airflow

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 7:29 PM

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@foggy stag https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DYc26R
-mobo: picked due to sound chip, amount of M2 ports, amount of USB ports, PCIe ports
-ram: picked due to 3600 CL16 for barely more
-ssd: picked due to most not needing NVMe and trying to save money for other components
-hdd: picked due to 2tb being barely more then 1tb
-gpu: picked due to 1660 non Super being overpriced and basically same price as a 1660 Super
-case: it was cheap and budget was already at limit
-psu: picked due to BR not being too great. CX is usually the cheapest PSU that is good

System Builder

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 7:29 PM

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As gamers nexus finds

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 7:29 PM

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So Hei did you see the new video from Hardware Unboxed that says that Tom's Hardware doesn't do their tests right

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Really

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In what ways @latent bronze

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Many people do tests in Toms Hardware. Tests for PSUs, CPU coolers, CPUs, GPUs, etc

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 7:30 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZWUOldsxXQ

YouTube

Hardware Unboxed

Tom's Hardware, Just Buy It! MSI X570 Motherboards, Calls Hardware ...

Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/hardwareunboxed
Merch: http://crowdmade.com/hardwareunboxed

Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite: https://amzn.to/2Z3759I
Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus: https://amzn.to/31CUYhb
Asrock X570 Steel Legend: https://amzn.to/31BfU88
MSI MPG X570 Gami...

▶ Play video

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 7:31 PM

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I can't watch rn

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Give me a quick summary if you will

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Pretty much the new MSI X570 boards heat up too much on Ryzen 9's and Tom's says that it is cool but they're using a 3700X instead

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Also that you shouldn't be using Ryzen 9's on that X570

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Oh boy

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 7:33 PM

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But as said, T HW is made of a team, one mess up from a single author doesn't say much about it in general

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 7:33 PM

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now I want to get the steel instead of the tuff gaming

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 7:33 PM

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he pointed out more than one mess up from a single author

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ASRock Steel Legend?

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if that is it it's a good board

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Yes

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looks better as well

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more white NYEHE

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Or the asus prime x570

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Is even better

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@wide sparrow

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 7:37 PM

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But at what cost

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Ah yes....but no WiFi

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 7:38 PM

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You can always buy a PCIE WiFi adapter for your system

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One that can also be a lot better than the on board one's

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 7:40 PM

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You're right

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 7:42 PM

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@wide sparrow there is this one https://www.newegg.com/asrock-x570-steel-legend-wifi-ax/p/N82E16813157894

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 7:44 PM

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x570 steel legend is good

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 7:56 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20200225-134115_Google.jpg

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Mmmmm

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 8:01 PM

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But does it have WiFi included

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@wide sparrow look at the price for that board https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-x570-pro/p/N82E16813119196

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and on sale for a limited time

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Also RGB is so little on it

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Oh and only 1 M.2 shield on the Asus board

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Mmm expensive

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I'll get that instead just for the looks lol

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Even tho its 50 dollars more

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Vram must be amazing on this

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 8:10 PM

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If i was in your shoes i would still go with the ASRock board

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Which one in particular

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Remember that ASRock board has a WiFi antenna

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 8:11 PM

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tru

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 8:12 PM

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And don't forget that Asus board is only on sale for like a day or two so you have no idea how much it would be after

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Prime P is usually $150

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 8:26 PM

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Eeeh

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I'll just stay with the tuff gaming to save some cash

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 8:28 PM

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You mean this one that is out of stock https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y3prxr/asus-tuf-b450m-pro-gaming-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-b450m-pro-gaming

Asus TUF B450M-PRO GAMING Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 8:29 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dmGnTW/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi

This

Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 8:50 PM

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ASrock i would still go for so you're in your theme

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Crap

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asrock it is

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If something goes wrong I'll return it

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Asrock x570 and TUF x570 are basically the same. So get whichever I guess

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Asrock bios is not the greatest @wide sparrow

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Asus is much better

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The tuf will be alot better

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 9:34 PM

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That's funny

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 9:43 PM

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What is @latent bronze

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Saying that ASRock bios is not that great

sullen spoke Feb 25, 2020, 9:45 PM

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I’ve only used bios on that popular cheap asrock board and it was a nightmare

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Mostly because it had basically no features

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Ya but for all the modern boards has features

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Even their A320 boards has features lol

sullen spoke Feb 25, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Very few

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 9:54 PM

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IF the board works and you are not OC'ing, it really does not matter one bit

sullen spoke Feb 25, 2020, 9:54 PM

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True

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I am just a freak that likes to be able to see everything

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:03 PM

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I've worked with all the major mb brands and by far asrock was the worst

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@latent bronze

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Asus was the best

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:03 PM

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@little osprey it all depends on the mobo and user

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:04 PM

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True but why steer someone towards something you know isnt that great

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Because it couldve improved.... when did u last use asrock?

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:04 PM

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1 year ago

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X470 taichi

olive kraken Feb 25, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Guys... I'm making my first build. And idk if I should go performance > aesthetics or not...

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Thoughts?

sullen spoke Feb 25, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Asus is always #1 baby

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:05 PM

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I doubt they magically got better

sullen spoke Feb 25, 2020, 10:05 PM

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ROG

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:05 PM

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@sullen spoke so true

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Asrock bios looks fine

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Asrock is even worse than gigabyte

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Which is a low bar

sullen spoke Feb 25, 2020, 10:06 PM

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I love my asus mobo

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:06 PM

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I had a maximus apex motherboard and it was awesome

sullen spoke Feb 25, 2020, 10:06 PM

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I have Maximus x hero

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Asus bios is the best

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Google best bios and asus will be the top

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I have gigabyte rn and its awful

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But asrock was worse

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Ooof

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Don't make me not build my PC

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Go with asus where available

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Asus software is also better than competitors

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:11 PM

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@wide sparrow dont listen to him 100% obvs an asus fanboy

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Lol

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I have a gigabyte motherboard

olive kraken Feb 25, 2020, 10:11 PM

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I have a similar ish question

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Yooo.....i don't know what to believe in anymore 😭

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:12 PM

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📎 20191226_211111.jpg

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Asrock fanboy

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Ooo

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:12 PM

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I have an msi mobo.....

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:12 PM

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I'm neutral

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:12 PM

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And gigabyte dual bios can be helpful

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Msi's is pretty good imo

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Dosent help their bios tho

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Msi is pretty good

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Doesn't*

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Not as good as asus tho

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:13 PM

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I like how msi has a simple mode, and advanced

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Sorry for spelling lol

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All of then have that

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:13 PM

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But msis is better

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:14 PM

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No asus

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Asus has better quality

olive kraken Feb 25, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Asus X570 plus (wifi) or gigabyte Aorus Elite x570 wifi or msi x570 mpg gaming edge

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:(

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:14 PM

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@olive kraken what fits budget best

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Asus

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Wait nvm all similarly priced

olive kraken Feb 25, 2020, 10:14 PM

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I can fit all of them just fine

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:15 PM

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I forget which one but one of msi's motherboards has vrm cooling issues

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There was an article about it

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:15 PM

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What do you use it for? Gaming edge's only good thing is the network chip

blissful garden Feb 25, 2020, 10:15 PM

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asus more like asus

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:15 PM

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apart from that Gaming edge kinda sucks

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Asus=best

olive kraken Feb 25, 2020, 10:16 PM

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I'm in between 2 builds, one relies on aesthetics but less performance like dropping gpu and CPU or Full on performance which kicks up CPU and GPU by a lot but then I go with stuffi don't like

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Asrock=a ss

olive kraken Feb 25, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Gaming only and light CAD

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:16 PM

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📎 MSI_SnapShot_00.jpg 📎 190904110725.jpg 📎 190716195652.jpg

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These are bios

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All are fine

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:16 PM

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best what? best price to perf? Sometimes. best quality no matter what? Eh

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Asus has best performance

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:16 PM

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No it doesnt.

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:16 PM

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why?

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:16 PM

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There are better boards

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@cursive wharf hes an asus fanboy

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:17 PM

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I'm not

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:17 PM

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@little osprey that is very much a question of what metric you are looking at

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Then why do you keep saying its the best when its not?

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:17 PM

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How is it not?

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:17 PM

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There are board that are higher quality

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Thats what I mean

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Obviously

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:17 PM

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the boards, IF actually running ACTUAL stock, perform so closely that it doesnt matter, UNLESS you are trying to go for a benchmark record.

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:17 PM

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b450 board? Well Carbon Pro AC is the best out of b450. Why?
M2 ports, network chip, sound chip, USB ports, RGB headers, PCIe slots, etc

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:18 PM

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@little osprey name why asus is better

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And ill believe you

olive kraken Feb 25, 2020, 10:18 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J4K2Wb

System Builder

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:18 PM

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@olive krakenone sec

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:18 PM

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The bios is easier to navigate

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The boards I've had from them are better quality imo

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:18 PM

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@olive kraken u12, bitfenix whisper

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:18 PM

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lol. So just because BIOS looks better literally all other things about the board dont matter?

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:19 PM

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@little osprey question: how much time do you spend in the bios?

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:19 PM

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The quality of boards is better too

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Alot

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@foggy hazel

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I oc alot

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:19 PM

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@olive kraken https://pcpartpicker.com/list/28VJp8

System Builder

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Intel amd you name it

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:19 PM

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@upper condor @olive kraken Newegg should have a better deal on the Whisper

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:19 PM

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then give that as the context @little osprey

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Plus, you pretty much just oc ram in bios

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:20 PM

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an OC board choice makes no logical choice from the non-oc users POV

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:20 PM

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I also have experience with all of them

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:20 PM

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And thats because its slow at stock

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Cpu and gpu can be oc'ed with software

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:20 PM

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as do i Deadshot, as do i.

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and it really really doesnt matter one bit for a non-oc user [edit: -s]

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:21 PM

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True

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:21 PM

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context matters.

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:21 PM

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@little osprey also ryzen automatically overclocks when needed, to a certain extent

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:21 PM

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My most stable boards have been in this order asus msi gigabyte asrock

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I onow

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Know

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:21 PM

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i dont know why people (not you specifically Deadshot) in general have such a hard time giving context for their statements.

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:21 PM

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But the scores vary from board to board

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From stock

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:22 PM

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99.999% of all debates here are because people dont give context for their statements.

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Different amd motherboards affect clocks differently

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:22 PM

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because "stock" is not actually "stock"

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Like my gigabyte auto did pbo

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And other things

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:23 PM

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it is what makes mainboard comparisons on the intel side an exercise in futility.

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Which is bad? Because you said you hate it

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:23 PM

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No

olive kraken Feb 25, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Distraught me trying to understand this whole argument

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:23 PM

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I'm just saying different boards on amd perform different when stock

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:23 PM

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@olive krakendid u see my list?

olive kraken Feb 25, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Oui

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:24 PM

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@little osprey b450 Strix F cant do an OCed 3900x very well, but a MSI b450 Carbon Pro AC can

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:24 PM

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My gigabyte board had memory issues

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:24 PM

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So Asus isnt better

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:24 PM

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@olive kraken you can easily get by with a 650w psu

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:24 PM

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That's b450

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:24 PM

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yet we take the best of the two b450

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Whixh is budget

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:24 PM

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"Asus is always best"

olive kraken Feb 25, 2020, 10:24 PM

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I might get a 2080ti tho

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Budget? Why

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:24 PM

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With an enthusiast cpu

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:24 PM

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B450 has very good options

olive kraken Feb 25, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Depends on how much OT I'm willing to do

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:25 PM

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oh doesnt matter because that's budget

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:25 PM

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B450 isnt budget, its good value

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:25 PM

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B450 isnt the top teir

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It's meant for like ryzen 5 and below

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:25 PM

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No

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:25 PM

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You're now contradicting yourself
We are taking the top tier of b450 which you just said that Asus is always best

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Its not

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:25 PM

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So, is Asus or isnt Asus always best?

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Again, a b450 pro carbon can run a 3900X

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:26 PM

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i would recommend that people stick to 1 debate at a time.

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Depends

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Where did you get your info

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:26 PM

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or you wont ever get any actual debate going.

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:26 PM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true

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a well researched spreadsheet

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:26 PM

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I don't click links

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:27 PM

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well if you dont want to get disproven by facts then go ahead

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If you dont want to go by actual sources then sure, anything is possible because who cares about proof

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Just tell me where you got that spreadsheet

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Like who made it

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:28 PM

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A reddit user

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:28 PM

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It was made by someone who referenced actual reviews

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little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Didnt Tom's hardware just get roasted by hardware unboxed

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 10:29 PM

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So @little osprey you admit Asus is bad then

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:29 PM

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No lol

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:29 PM

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and there are still three other sources?

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Good spreadsheet. Most of these boards do well with 3700x or 8

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Because a b450 board got beat

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 10:29 PM

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not 3950 tho

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Still 12 cores

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Duh

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3900 is possible

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:30 PM

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I'm just saying that b450 is budget

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Not meant for major ocing

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 10:30 PM

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https://i.gyazo.com/c771f27f1bd2f289af4083da83822895.png Was is past tense meaning you are saying they are not good anymore

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Its not though

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B450 isnt budget

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A320 is

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:30 PM

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You said Asus is ALWAYS best
Did you note the always?

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now you're changing your statement?

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Lol ok pretty sure that was foe bios

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For

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:31 PM

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@little osprey why is b450 budget

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Because it like 100$

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:32 PM

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@upper condor technically, b450 is the budget line

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:32 PM

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And?

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:32 PM

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If b450 wasnt budget what is the purpose of x470

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Its literally the same as x570, it was the predecessor of b450

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:32 PM

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if you want a different name, you can call it mainstream.

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Is b450 better than x470?

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:33 PM

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No

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X470 is better

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:33 PM

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it is NOT the same as x570

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:33 PM

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really? just BIOS?

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upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Not same

subtle halo Feb 25, 2020, 10:33 PM

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xD why would they make 470 then xD

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:33 PM

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not even remotely close @upper condor

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:33 PM

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I mean it holds the same place

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:33 PM

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no. they dont.

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Like, 2nd gen compatibility right?

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It was the first board with it

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Or am I wrong

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:33 PM

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their feature sets are very far apart

wide sparrow Feb 25, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Asus overall has the best performance for vrm

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:33 PM

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So true

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Vrms are also not as good

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Form b450 to x470

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:34 PM

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@upper condor also, context context context :)

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:34 PM

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From

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:34 PM

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@foggy hazel I know they are very different, wasnt comparing quality

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My bad

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Asus makes good boards but the best that is going a little too far

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:34 PM

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^

latent bronze Feb 25, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Also takes a lot for Hei to agree with me on something

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Meant as in x470 was holding the same place as x570, the first with 2nd gen/3rd gen compatibility @foggy hazel

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:35 PM

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lol, true

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:35 PM

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yes, because high-end gets updated first (generally)

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Mhm

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:36 PM

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it is part of what you pay for with the parts.

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:36 PM

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The more you pay the more you get in most situations

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:36 PM

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but, that is still only talking about the comp. and that is very much a debate in a vacuum

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:36 PM

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@little osprey there is a point if diminishing returns always

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Hey chat - thoughts about I7 9700k vs I5 9600k?

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:36 PM

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True

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Take the 2080 ti

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:37 PM

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For what workload?

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Its price to performance is bad

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Horrible*

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:37 PM

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But still is the best

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:37 PM

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2080s is much better value

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:37 PM

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unless you need what it offers, then it is very competitive.

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Unless your crazy and get a titan

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Um TiTaN rTx

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:37 PM

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I onow

#

Know

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Anyone an experienced rig builder?

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:37 PM

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I am

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:37 PM

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if you need 11gig vram, there is that, or cards that cost a LOT more

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 10:37 PM

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I have some questions if you think you might be able to help

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:37 PM

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@true comet naed

subtle halo Feb 25, 2020, 10:38 PM

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@true comet naed pro

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:38 PM

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We all can

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But naed best

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:38 PM

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@true comet ask away?

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Okay 1 sec

teal bison Feb 25, 2020, 10:38 PM

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@true comet i7 is definately better, just depends on your budget

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:38 PM

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I think I've build like 10 pcs now

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Naed has been building longer than ive been alive

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@little osprey naed has probably built like 300000000

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Idk I dont like the 9700k

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:38 PM

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"300000000" lol

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:39 PM

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The 9700k dosent have hyperthreading

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:39 PM

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i dont want to know if i have built that many @upper condor

subtle halo Feb 25, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Naed has been building longer than ive been alive
@upper condor naed makes all the prebuilt system in the whole world hahaa

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:39 PM

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I'd wait till 10 gen comes out

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Lol yeah

subtle halo Feb 25, 2020, 10:39 PM

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naed ftw

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:39 PM

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10 gen supposedly brings back hyperthreading

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:39 PM

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this week so far is 16 machines or so

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Wow

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Relax

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:39 PM

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What do you do naed

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:39 PM

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He builds pcs

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:39 PM

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a bit of this, and a bit of that

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:40 PM

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In poland correct?

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:40 PM

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nope, located in denmark

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Rip

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Potato potato?

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:40 PM

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close enough

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Eu

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Yes

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I live in UK

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:40 PM

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EU is basically one

rich void Feb 25, 2020, 10:40 PM

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oof

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Uk is not

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:41 PM

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UK is out right?

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:41 PM

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In it

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:41 PM

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i dont care about the location that people guess, its not important.

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Yes, which is dumb

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They shouldnt have left

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Bout time been like 3 years in limbo

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:41 PM

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If its not broken, dont fix it

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Wrong chat.... im an idiot

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:41 PM

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can we NOT get into politics :)

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Yep

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:41 PM

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I mean the eu controls countries

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Shhhhh

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Theres a rule about this I believe

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:41 PM

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@true comet if you want, you can send me a pm

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 10:41 PM

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I5 - 9600k -
GTX 1660 Ti (existing part bought for upgrade never used)
Motherboard - Prime Z390-A LGA
SSD - Samsung 860 EVO
Ram - Corsair Vengence LPX 16gb
PSU - 700 watt
Cooler - Thermal Take Floe Triple Ring

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Rule 5

subtle halo Feb 25, 2020, 10:41 PM

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ow

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:42 PM

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700 is kinda high

subtle halo Feb 25, 2020, 10:42 PM

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spicy

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:42 PM

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You could probably cut back

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Plus, what psu exactly?

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 10:42 PM

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I have a 700 now

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Like 600

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 10:42 PM

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just bought

little osprey Feb 25, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Then keep it

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:42 PM

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So first off what is the workload

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 10:42 PM

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but its knock off I think

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:42 PM

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also what is the PSU model

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just cuz it's 700w 80+ gold doesnt mean it's good

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:42 PM

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I like how we are all debating and then the second someone needs help we are all spamming them😆

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:43 PM

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normal people stop a debate by cutting them off and saying that is enough
we just do it by having someone ask for help

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Apevia ATX sp600Watt (sorry not 700)

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:43 PM

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well, this is #building-and-recc-chat, not #general-chat

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Yee I'd change that PSU, kinda dangerous

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Yeah

#

^

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Thanks guys

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Make a pcpartpicker list

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Then post and we can edit

#

@foggy hazel its pretty late fkr you right? Almost 12 am

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:47 PM

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aye, i am turning in, in the not so distant future

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 10:49 PM

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sorry chat was talking with Naed

subtle halo Feb 25, 2020, 10:50 PM

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xD

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:51 PM

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he is all yours people :)

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i am out for the night :)

subtle halo Feb 25, 2020, 10:52 PM

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can we devour him now jk haha

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:52 PM

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he should be working on a pcpartpicker list, and then he will be back

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seems like, (based on my talk with him) that he is buying on friday, but please verify that.

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"I5-650
8gb ddr3
1tb hdd
windows 1`0 pro
amd radeon r7 250" <- that was his old system

subtle halo Feb 25, 2020, 10:54 PM

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1`0 ?

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ow 10

foggy hazel Feb 25, 2020, 10:54 PM

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no @subtle halo you cannot, your diet doesnt allow you to snack on people at this time of day.

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dont blame me, blame your diet :P

subtle halo Feb 25, 2020, 10:54 PM

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but 😦 hahha

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 10:55 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XwN3Nq

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:55 PM

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NOOOOOO

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Get rid of aio

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Hey chat -- I have selected what I believe I know works well

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:56 PM

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@true comet max budget?

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 10:56 PM

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id like to spend roughly 1k (I have the GPU)

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Mk

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Main use?

half temple Feb 25, 2020, 10:56 PM

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But remember focus on the performance before the look

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Playing fortnite

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LOL - I have macbooks for work (work from home)

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So I want something comfortable (looks good performs well) (Epic res 160fps no prob)

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I might be way off here so please don't hold back - Money is not the object

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but I am not a pro

rich void Feb 25, 2020, 10:58 PM

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An aio almost as expensive as your CPU seems unnecessary. Could just bump up to a better processor with that money

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 10:59 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CkhWJb

System Builder

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 10:59 PM

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the Aio i was more on looks (comes with a $$)

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Now this may be a very stupid statement - but after searching the web the Parts i had displays are "top 5" to work with one another -- IE CPU, Motherboard, AIO, Ram etc

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 11:01 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C7f3Nq

System Builder

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More expensive

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 11:01 PM

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so any changes go over my head - with this being said if a change is recommend would anyone mind explaining the reasoning?

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Yep

rich void Feb 25, 2020, 11:01 PM

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That's up to you. My focus would be performance, so for $400 I'd look at like a 3700x, or you could get a less expensive cooler

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 11:02 PM

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@true comet aio is kinda useless, air coolers have same performance

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 11:02 PM

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now I was bouncing off the idea I7 9700k vs I6 9600k

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@upper condor thank you for that

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I5*

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 11:02 PM

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I7 is just more cores

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 11:03 PM

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which I believe is my current builds issue 2 cores i5

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drops fps hard

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 11:03 PM

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what is the build for?

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 11:04 PM

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Gaming

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@upper condor I am liking the second build lingo and pricing

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 11:04 PM

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If just gaming then get R5 3600 and dont get Intel

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 11:04 PM

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Any ideas to performance difference?

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 11:04 PM

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less stuttering

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 11:04 PM

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Mind is made up on intel @cursive wharf

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unless it shouldnt be

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 11:05 PM

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It shouldnt

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 11:05 PM

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AMD gives better perf, like it's simply better for the same price or cheaper

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Now with this in the mix its a whole new game. Ultimately I am trying to create a beast gaming pc roughly 1k (I already have GPU so 1k additional)

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High Frames potential to run mixer streams would be nice - and visually pleasing

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Mixer cringe twitch good

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 11:07 PM

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I mean with 1k you can get a full PC with a 2060S/5700 which is better then your current one

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 11:07 PM

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switched off twitch - more retention on mixer

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@cursive wharf I purchased a 1660ti as an upgrade (went wrong) so i have that as a GPU - I am literally open to anything outside of that

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Im coming into a very hefty commission check so again money isnt the problem I would just like to spend 1k

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Can you return it? Not really a well suited card for the budget

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Possibly, but I did use it for a week

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I ordered on amazon roughly 2.5weeks agoi

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Still returnable

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As long as no dust and looks nice

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 11:09 PM

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box is trashed...

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 11:09 PM

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I'd suggest that then work with the 1.2k or so budget you'll have for the entire PC

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 11:09 PM

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like literally in the trash

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gone

wispy matrix Feb 25, 2020, 11:10 PM

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I would do 1.2k budget I might get my computer parts sometime around the first week of March or the 2nd week

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 11:10 PM

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so ill have a 1.3k budget

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So now the question I ask you chat. Any reccomendations for a 1.3k comp build

upper condor Feb 25, 2020, 11:12 PM

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I really would help @true comet, but its late and I wanna sleep

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Good luck

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 11:15 PM

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@upper condor Thanks for the help thus far I believe my purchase will be paused until I figure this out. Ill be a frequent flyer here!

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 11:15 PM

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@true comet There you go https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rqYn9G

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@wispy matrix Do the same build above but use a 3600 instead of 3700x

wispy matrix Feb 25, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Hei

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 11:17 PM

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yes?

wispy matrix Feb 25, 2020, 11:17 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rRqZXv this is my build

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Nvm it was lower price

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Back to the drawing board

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 11:17 PM

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you also said nothing about monitors

wispy matrix Feb 25, 2020, 11:18 PM

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You sure

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“Can someone help me find cheap dual monitors to stay under budget” this is from past chat

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 11:19 PM

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a while back yes. But I dont see every message and remember them all

true comet Feb 25, 2020, 11:22 PM

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pulled into a work call

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will check shortly @cursive wharf

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 11:26 PM

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@wispy matrix I'd go with this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b7DBzN
-mobo: TUF Pro has a better sound chip, more M2 slots, more PCIe slots
-SSD: That's still a SATA SSD, even if M2. This makes it harder to upgrade to NVMe later as now it's harder to reuse the drive due to limited number of M2 ports. Also perf doesnt change for a form factor premium
-case: only comes with one case fan, so got one that comes with two

wispy matrix Feb 25, 2020, 11:27 PM

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I’m going around the 1200 mark

cursive wharf Feb 25, 2020, 11:53 PM

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@wispy matrix Which is about what it was. But here is a slightly cheaper version
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fNQTZf

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RAM can OC to 3466/3600 CL16 and case is slightly cheaper

silk helm Feb 26, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Not sure where would be the best place to ask for advice, so I guess I'll just ask here

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My laptop that I got back in 2016 recently went out and I'm considering getting a new one

sacred obsidian Feb 26, 2020, 12:12 AM

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do you want/need the portability?

silk helm Feb 26, 2020, 12:12 AM

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I do

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I was wondering if it was necessary to get a new gaming laptop or if it was possible to just build a desktop and use remote access when I'm out of town?

sacred obsidian Feb 26, 2020, 12:14 AM

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oof

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so

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there is pc to pc streaming, but its bad for gaming

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there is also streaming services through like, nvidia or steam

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but its not always good

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you have to have good internet access and even then im not sure how they work

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so it would be easier to get a good or at least decent gaming laptop

silk helm Feb 26, 2020, 12:15 AM

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I'm mainly a casual gamer (LoL and Arena) but I definitely want something that I can play MHW on

sacred obsidian Feb 26, 2020, 12:15 AM

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monster hunter world?

silk helm Feb 26, 2020, 12:15 AM

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Yeah

sacred obsidian Feb 26, 2020, 12:17 AM

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so you're going to want a better laptop then. its either get a good gaming laptop or take the risk of streaming. but im also not savy in streaming pc to pc. thats something i plan on looking into later lol

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but again, streaming also requires a good connection. so you'd need access to a good internet connection to stream it to playable levels, which can be an issue. with a gaming laptop you'd be able to play anywhere.

silk helm Feb 26, 2020, 12:19 AM

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I'm inexperienced in building PC'S to say the least, but I know building your own is cheaper than having one prebuilt

sacred obsidian Feb 26, 2020, 12:19 AM

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that is desktop only though.

silk helm Feb 26, 2020, 12:20 AM

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Though it's near impossible to build a gaming laptop

true comet Feb 26, 2020, 12:20 AM

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@cursive wharf just finished working

silk helm Feb 26, 2020, 12:20 AM

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Because of the nature of the parts

true comet Feb 26, 2020, 12:20 AM

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just took a look at the build

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looking mighty fine from what I can say

sacred obsidian Feb 26, 2020, 12:21 AM

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there was a "portable" desktop tier laptop esque case i saw a loooong time ago but i cant find it anymore and its super big, bulky, heavy, and not practical lol. it was essentually a case on its side with a screen lol

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but yeah, building your own laptop is pretty much impossible and if you could do it it would probably end up being more expensive.