i hope that makes sense @steep plover ?
#building-and-recc-chat
foggy hazel
steep plover
Yes
foggy hazel
good
little osprey
@cursive wharf What would you recommend for RAM ?
foggy hazel
@little osprey drop your link again please?
cursive wharf
first off, do you need Amazon?
little osprey
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/OAlex_/saved/7VQqpg do you guys think it is a great setup?
cursive wharf
you seem to be forcing it to Amazon for some reason
foggy hazel
thank you
little osprey
Yes, I have prime so i figured it would be a faster delivery
sacred obsidian
g.skill ram is good and cheaper than what you have
cursive wharf
You're throwing away like $65 just on the CPU alone
foggy hazel
is faster worth paying extra for the parts?
little osprey
woah
sacred obsidian
oloy seems to be pretty cheap and reliable, but i have not actually confirmed its reliability.
little osprey
is vuugo a good company ?
foggy hazel
@cursive wharf you got enough brains left to make a build? because i am just about tapped out for today
sacred obsidian
never heard of vuugo
cursive wharf
gskill Ripjaws or Crucial Sports LT with "AES" in it's part number
cursive wharf
@sacred obsidian Canada retailer
steep plover
@little osprey you could probably get a R5 2600X for around the same price.
sacred obsidian
what hei?
cursive wharf
Vuugo is a canadian retailer/store
sacred obsidian
oh
ok then lol. explains why ive never heard of it lol
alex are you in canada?
foggy hazel
yes he is, hence why his list shows as canada :)
little osprey
yep
sacred obsidian
oh i didnt see the ca in the link xD
foggy hazel
:)
little osprey
xd
sacred obsidian
ok then. that explains the higher prices
little osprey
you guys have a good case to recommend ?
cursive wharf
im making a pcpp list for you
sacred obsidian
people talk bad abotu the h510 and h510i but from my experience its been perfectly fine.
foggy hazel
thank you for doing that @cursive wharf
cursive wharf
This just for gaming?
cursive wharf
little osprey
thanks! but i just have one question. Doesn't the ryzen 3600 already have a cpu cooler ?
cursive wharf
yes, but stock is a meh cooler when compared to even basic coolers
steep plover
Yes but you get more OC headroom with a good aftermarket one
sacred obsidian
i mean if you're not planning to oc at all, the stock cooler is perfectly fine
if you want OC headroom, go aftermarket
steep plover
I’m getting a 2200g and keeping the stock cooler until I get an extra $60 to get a good aftermarket.
covert crypt
Helpssssss
I'm told to get the 5700x cuz my brother asked for me. What are you guys thoughts ? 5700x vs 2070super
covert crypt
So 2070s is for convenience?
foggy hazel
imo, yes
covert crypt
@foggy hazel thoughts ?
foggy hazel
on the "get whatever model you want" part?
covert crypt
Yah
foggy hazel
agreed
obviously, there are some that have dingy coolers
as they are talking about too
that is normal for just about any product line
covert crypt
Guess I'll get the 5700xt then is it as future proof as the 2070s?
Or long lasting*
foggy hazel
that is your choice
depends on budget etc
nothing new to add there over what has been said a number of times both here and other places
shy ruin
What’s a good 5700 model?
sudden turret
red devil
loud apex
thorny slate
so i bought a noctua nh-d15 for my am4 motherboard but it didnt come with 4 grey spacers, only 3, however it did come with 4 white ones for am2, does it matter if i use the white ones?
little osprey
I have a burning question, I've been thinking this over for a while too and come to no real solution, so should I get a gpu rgb backplate or an actual chair. The chair i have now is a $20 ikea chair with a cushion tied onto it, but it works fine
stoic island
Neither
I have a wooden chair pulled from the dining room
as long as its solid its fine
like a 20$ office chair is fine
cyan cape
yeah, don't spend it on a chair
little osprey
ok thank for advice
cyan cape
I've mentioned this before
but you can go on Craigslist/Facebook and grab one for free
then buy p[arts
I see ads every week for businesses getting rid of their desk and chairs
cursive wharf
A decent chair would probably be $60+
so no point in replacing a cheap chair with another cheap chair unless you have to
brisk vigil
Same
icy plume
my chair is like a dinner chair with fabric
it's not comfortable at all but crates are like -comfortable, somehow you can go past being not comfortable to a state where standing is better
so my chair does the trick
sacred obsidian
wait zack dont you have one of them like racing chairs
balmy canopy
latent bronze
Could always get something like this then https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81LcS0wR6TL._AC_SX466_.jpg
lol
even has a cup holder
warped moat
Gotta have something to hold my G fuel
little osprey
Who has that really cheap pc
daring nexus
@foggy hazel thanks for your previous messages, sorry that I was busy at the time. I appreciate the help
foggy hazel
@daring nexus no worries :)
@daring nexus if you have more questions about specific parts of a machine. Please drop them in the relevant channel in the subgroup "Computer hardware"
those channels are a bit more .. practical to have longer more focused talks in :)
carmine bay
bro the chair i use is older than i am
and im 18
and its an office chair
its seen way better days
regal forge
Question is there a difference between a modular and a semi modular in psu's?
regal forge
Yeah I know that lol, I was just wondering if there was pros to getting full modular
solemn jacinth
Yes the fully modular psu is better for cable management
regal forge
Okay thanks appreciate the help
solemn jacinth
Np
foggy hazel
@regal forge difference is that semi-modular has the 20 (24) pin atx power cable wired and in a fixed position, normally the side of the psu.
aside from that, a theoretical otherwise identical psu where the only difference is semi-modular/full modular. there is no difference
@regal forge difference is that semi-modular has the 20 (24) pin atx power cable wired and in a fixed position, normally the side of the psu.
regal forge
Okay thanks again!!
I was gonna message you but I dont want to annoy you with every small question @foggy hazel
foggy hazel
as i said @regal forge dont worry about it :)
generally, as things stand, the fully modular psu's are ALSO generally nicer components/build quality vs the non-modular
regal forge
Thank you!, Okay ill keep that in mind if anything else comes to mind 🙂
foggy hazel
because modular is seen as a thing/feature "you must have this!!!!!"
mind, it is absolutely lovely to work with in regards to routing cables etc
regal forge
In the build that you helped me make it was a semi modular psu and was wonder if a fully modular would be better
foggy hazel
but a lot of the builds that are being done with modular psu's ... it does not matter one bit
it would not matter one bit for you
regal forge
Okay sounds good!! Thanks again for all the help!
foggy hazel
any time :) and you are very welcome
cursive wharf
@regal forge A good notice for semi modular, there are no decent PSUs that are semi modular that are worth their price. All the semi modular ones that are inbetween the price of good non-modular and good modular PSUs are bad. Decent semi modular ones are the same price as decent fully modular ones
So I suggest avoiding semi
little osprey
Hey all! I was wondering how much my present computer was worth. If someone could help me make a selling price it’ll be awesome. HP OMEN 880-002nl.
CPU: Ryzen 5 1400
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050 (2Gb)
RAM: 8Gb DDR4 1/4 slots
Motherboard: HP 8309
Power Supply: 500W
HDD: 1,81 Tb
Didn’t find any other information tho, my bad.
cursive wharf
Probs like $300 max
little osprey
$300 usd ?
cursive wharf
Yes, as it's used and components arent that great, price isn't really that high
little osprey
Oof, bad news for me lol. Anyways, thank you for your help again!
cursive wharf
You can still try to rip people off if you want to play that kind of seller. Like 400 or smth
little osprey
True, i will probably try that lol. welp, thank for the help :)
upper condor
Anyone know what this cable is for? Found it in a pile of junk
lime forge
looks like it could go to a USB device
i have that same type of cable for my blue snowball mic
its also used for USB hubs like the one built into my monitor
sullen spoke
used for a lot of things, don't know what it's called tho
sudden turret
lol.
sudden turret
the 24pin doesn't detach
icy plume
the what
serene mica
Yo
sudden turret
yo
lime forge
yo
cursive wharf
@upper condor usb type A (standard rectangle) to usb type B (usually for printers, but can be for other things)
upper condor
Mk
olive kraken
My friend is making his very first Build. I can help put it together
But anyone can help me with $900 build?
I'm giving him my 60hz monitor and old case
teal bison
ok so you dont need a case then?
olive kraken
No
teal bison
and what is he using it for?
teal bison
ok does he plan on streaming?
olive kraken
No
olive kraken
Idk that one I'd have to ask but. For now dw about em
teal bison
wait does the 900 include peripherals and things like that?
olive kraken
No
teal bison
ok cool heres this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MMVwyk
worldly flame
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QBLstp would be solid i think
olive kraken
He alrdy has mnk
teal bison
didnt know how much storage he wants so just figured 1tb is pretty standard
olive kraken
Yep
teal bison
oh and does he want to OC his cpu?
olive kraken
I don't think he knows what that is xD
teal bison
ok sounds good lol
did keep it quite underbudget so we can throw in some black ram or something if you want, but if you want to save as much money as possible there you go
teal bison
np bud
olive kraken
Both of u :0
little osprey
@little osprey where can I buy that dope ass case
looks custom, like 100% diy custom
@little osprey
scenic kestrel
little osprey
@little osprey it was a joke lmao
imagine bringing that to the airport and trying to get through security with it
sullen spoke
It’s possible
stark siren
Watercooling parts came in got most of it in pic in build pics
short relic
So, parts will be in today but I got a slight problem. I will try and explain the best I can. I am reusing my drives from my old pc but dont have an 8gb flash drive for a boot installer but I have an external hard drive. I have an idea to make this work and was wondering if anyone thinks it could too. I make lists like to organize my thoughts so please bear with me
- Install the files to make the external drive the boot usb.
- Fresh install windows to my internal drive and change boot settings so I can remove my ssd
- Install ssd in new pc and boot like normal.
- Copy files to external drive
- Install and format internal drive
- Continue as normal.
foggy hazel
you would have to partition your external drive for that to work
rather, let me just get the details right.
currently, you have an old machine that has what kind of storage in it?
short relic
1 ssd for OS and 2 internal drives
foggy hazel
and you would like to reuse the ssd as the OS drive in the new machine?
short relic
Yes
foggy hazel
is there currently anything on the ssd that you need?
short relic
Technically yes. The os and otherwise games that I can move
foggy hazel
i mean, documents and things like that
short relic
nope
foggy hazel
okay.
is there currently anything on the external drive that you need? (same context as above)
short relic
Nah, it was for my ps4 and I already formatted it and I can always recopy the files I already copied over to it
foggy hazel
okay.
and just to clarify, you would like to do a fresh windows install in the new machine?
short relic
Yes
foggy hazel
okay
that is all fairly simple to do then
do yourself the favour and recheck that there isnt anything on the SSD that you actually need.
because this is a non-reversible set of actions.
question: do you want me to walk you through the process (as in, only give you instructions when you have completed the previous one)?
short relic
I think I'd be able to follow if you gave me a block of instructions and also because my parts arent here just yet. As for things on the ssd its programs I do not need right now like game launchers but now that I checked again, I do not know if having drivers downloaded there will be a problem or not.
stark siren
Youre going through a lot of trouble thats very unnecessary if you dont actually need a fresh install of windows ...
foggy hazel
everything on that SSD will be deleted as part of the process
short relic
Majin, Everywhere I looked said I should do a fresh install.
Naed, I know thats why I moved all my documents already, its just programs drivers and the os left
foggy hazel
i would rather mention it an extra time, because as i said earlier, you cannot undo this :)
short relic
Of course, I appreciate the thoroughness
foggy hazel
let me just write the process to you in a pm, then you have it easily available
stark siren
Well i can tell you that its not. I just a did full up grade of cpu and mobo. All did was reauthenticate windows after and in most cases thats all you ever need to do. Windows reinstall s any drivers you need automatically and also recognizes the drives again without having to do anything
I have 20 plus yrs in pc building and repair I have done thisna few times to say the least
tranquil dust
go ahead
foggy hazel
@stark siren yes, then you also know that IF the customer wants to do a reinstall for other reasons, your job is to help them do what they want.
this was one of those cases.
regal lintel
foggy hazel
its a build
stoic island
maybe a dif cpu cooler
that ssd isn't great
That PSU is iffy, Im not seeing any reviews for it, and isnt listed on the ltt psu tier list
I would go with a cx550 or smth
stark siren
@naed thats nice and by the no means am i telling them they cant do a reinstall but making sure theu understand there are quite a few other options and last i checked we are not service providers so this is not a customer... So no need for the hostility ...
foggy hazel
only hostility is the one you seem to see. Because there is none intended.
@regal lintel the build you linked: the case you have picked supports a total of 4 * 120mm fans. (there is 1 included with the case). You have a 5 pack of fans in your list?
regal lintel
ye
foggy hazel
any special reason for that?
lavish sonnet
Hey guys I've got a ryzen 2200g and a Rx 570 card should I upgrade my cpu I'm not really playing anything super demanding?
teal bison
if you arent happy with your performance, that cpu might be a bottleneck if you plan on upgrading your gpu
strange garden
Hey ya’ll, I currently own an hp omen obelisk with an i7-8700 and rtx 2080. I just bought a new rog strix z370-e gaming MOBO and a new NZXT s340 Elite case to move most of the internals into so I have more upgradeability in the future. I want to essentially fresh install Windows when I transfer everything over. Will I have to purchase a new windows key when I move to a new MOBO if I’m keeping most of the other internals (cpu, gpu, drives, ram)? Is there anything else I should be aware of when attempting this? I have some experience in tearing down and putting together electronics, but have never actually built a pc and had to deal with software. Any helpful tips or advice would be much appreciated.
foggy hazel
what are you plotting @short relic ?
short relic
lol thanks Naed. But if I remember correctly, I think you can get your windows license tied to your Microsoft account so you dont need a new key.
foggy hazel
aye, you can
little osprey
are the 7$ windows keys on amazon legit ? or it'll just break your computer ?
worldly flame
I used an ebay key on my last build, working as intended.
little osprey
That's cool, how much did it cost you ?
strange garden
What steps would I have to take to fresh install Windows on a new MOBO but with the old drives and CPU?
sudden turret
viral ore
bonk
jaunty karma
Alo
viral ore
ok, so before we do anything, tell me the budget again, and tell me how much of it you or he has
jaunty karma
viral ore
because im not planning out a 10k build as a meme
jaunty karma
His “build”
viral ore
and, he is planning to spent 10k
jaunty karma
He sent me this
viral ore
today
jaunty karma
Yeahh
jaunty karma
Today or tomorrow
viral ore
well, tell him that the amount he spends isnt gonna translate into performance
jaunty karma
Ok
viral ore
i can do a 6k build that will perform better than that
viral ore
i know this because having a second 2080ti will not play nice with most games
viral ore
i would imagine
im gonna mock up a build in pcpp as an example of what im thinking, and you are gonna send it to him
because what he sent is unnecessary
jaunty karma
Oki
marsh adder
Hmm this mobo's slots for screws don't line up with the case's standoffs just right.
jaunty karma
@viral ore his ok with that
viral ore
ok cool
marsh adder
I'm not actually there to try stuff. Should I tell my gf to just push it with force so they match or..?
Wouldn't want to break the motherboard that just arrived.
viral ore
yeah, it should be fine
just dont push down
also
heres kinda what i came up with
the PSU and GPU arent being counted in that cost though
so its more like $4800
@jaunty karma
jaunty karma
3 monitors he said
viral ore
ok
jaunty karma
Then can the psu be 1000w he said
jaunty karma
Well its his money <_<
stoic island
Yes
viral ore
any more wattage and you run the psu well under what its capable of
which can result in inefficiency
jaunty karma
Oki
viral ore
850 is way more than enough, considering he could run this off of a 650w psu
jaunty karma
He said if its possible to get a pcie ssd
viral ore
that is a pcie ssd
jaunty karma
Oh
viral ore
its actually better then the ones he picked before
its alot better than those overpriced 970 evos
foggy hazel
what kind of a "because i have money instead of brains" build is that monstrosity?
jaunty karma
Wait no
viral ore
yeah
jaunty karma
Theirs no pcie
viral ore
thats what it is
jaunty karma
Ssd
viral ore
thats the old one
viral ore
ahh, did you see mine tho
foggy hazel
aye
jaunty karma
Wana see mine
viral ore
sure ig
jaunty karma
stoic island
Sassy I don't understand why you went with the 16gb b die
Unless the person really wants to oc ram?
foggy hazel
@stoic island its a "placeholder/ballpark" list (at least that is how i see it)
stoic island
Ah, I was just confused
Because like 3950x suggests workloads that would need like 32gb of ram
viral ore
i mean, you can game on one of those
foggy hazel
this looks suspiciously like a build i helped spec a while back, let me just look in my pm's
stoic island
16 cores tho
viral ore
$10,000 tho
and im only using half that
with half those parts being overkill
and the other half being twice as much because their white
little osprey
but like, how do you get that much for a budget lol
little osprey
lol
foggy hazel
you work at X job, decide that you want something enough
and then you do what is necessary,
viral ore
tbh, once you get a 3950x and a 2080ti, any more for strictly gaming is for clout
or overclocking
foggy hazel
IF you are going into oc'ing (hardcore OC) you are not here asking for parts
viral ore
tru
foggy hazel
you might end up here, but not looking for build list advice
viral ore
lmao
foggy hazel
also, someone has been very quiet
viral ore
i mean, on that budget, sure
but it takes work
and you have to know what your doing
and if u mess up
foggy hazel
what is the exact use case for this build supposed to be?
viral ore
i assumed overkill/gaming/streaming
viral ore
what kind of editing
jaunty karma
Idk with him
little osprey
did you guys buy a cheap windows key or the legit one when you built your pcs ?
viral ore
like if hes working with 4 or 8k footage
foggy hazel
you are thinking too small @viral ore
viral ore
@little osprey i havent gotten that far
jaunty karma
His a professional editor
foggy hazel
of "what"?
jaunty karma
Idk
foggy hazel
because the "what" matters a lot when you say peripherals
cursive wharf
3970x, bunch o RAM, and 4x R7 is about 10k. Decided to do a Mac Pro clone but for cheaper
while back at least
foggy hazel
10k might not even cover what he actually wants in regards to add-in cards
so the "what" does indeed matter a LOT
viral ore
your gonna have to ask him about specifics
foggy hazel
because lets just play a "what-if" game here
lets say it is a video editor
depending on what kind of content he is editing, a couple of actual pci-e drives might benefit him, together with a 100+tb storage nas connected with 10gig ethernet
jaunty karma
Nvm he lied
cursive wharf
not to mention what video editor
viral ore
oh boy
foggy hazel
and i am sorry, but at that point, 10k is nothing but pocket change
cursive wharf
whether it is CPU or GPU reliant
viral ore
whats his real budget lmao
cursive wharf
100k
little osprey
o_o
jaunty karma
He ever actually owned a pc
little osprey
never*?
cursive wharf
So he just wants to blow 10k on a PC just because he never had one?
alright then....
viral ore
were still not sure what he is doing with this pc....
jaunty karma
He said hes going to practice
viral ore
he probs edits newspapers
jaunty karma
Lol
cursive wharf
I mean, you can be an editor on Mac
jaunty karma
He doesnt want the mac
foggy hazel
a mac is not a bad editing rig
viral ore
^
jaunty karma
He said it looks pale
cursive wharf
lol
foggy hazel
his brain needs some fresh thoughts
cursive wharf
That is actually hilarious
jaunty karma
Note this is not an editing rig
foggy hazel
because what matters is not how the machine looks, it is how it performs at what he needs it to DO
viral ore
so from what ive gathered, the 3950x is good enough, because if he wants to dabble in anything, he has the horsepower to do it
foggy hazel
nah @viral ore because budget has still not been confirmed, nor has use case
for all we know, it could be avx based
viral ore
considering he apparently doesnt know yet
viral ore
is he on discord? send him an invite like to this server
little osprey
lol pretty vague huh?
cursive wharf
Doesnt Zen2 have AVX2/512?
viral ore
and have him ask for help himself
jaunty karma
He doesnt have discord
foggy hazel
@cursive wharf not 512
jaunty karma
Hes text ming thru messages
viral ore
for all we know, we could just be talking to somebody who will never have 10k
we dont know
jaunty karma
Rip
viral ore
plus it easier if we can type directly at him
little osprey
I mean, feels like he's not organised/planned imo.
foggy hazel
if there are actual questions. I will answer. Until then, i consider this a closed case.
viral ore
ok, good for him
foggy hazel
@viral ore do you get my opinion about reddit points now?
viral ore
lmao yeah
viral ore
yours or his
jaunty karma
<_<
viral ore
jaunty karma
jaunty karma
Its for my pc
jaunty karma
Yes
viral ore
what motherboard do you have rn
viral ore
and what cpu?
jaunty karma
2600
viral ore
and you need to upgrade you mobo why?
jaunty karma
Its a white/black build
foggy hazel
the points are low @viral ore ! [edit:a=are]
viral ore
oof.
foggy hazel
do correct me if i am wrong
viral ore
welp, no need
short relic
I have one question about my build. While its been slow going and I have figured it out, the only thing I am confused on is gpu power.
Do I need to use the double 6+2 vga cable and put the use the 6 and the other as 6+2, o ly needing one cable?
Hello again Naed lol
foggy hazel
if there are connectors for 6+8, then you need 6+8
short relic
Cool, wanted to check
foggy hazel
aye aye, and hello, last hurrah before bed :)
valid sable
I've got a budget of $1,300 and heres what I was thinking for the specs: Ryzen 7 2700x Rtx 2070 super 32gb's of ram @3200 MHz (Im excluding storage psu and case to keep the list short)
viral ore
^
little osprey
So i was going with a 2060
viral ore
16gb ideal 4 gaemin
valid sable
I do editing with adobe so lots of ram is needed lol
little osprey
yep. i've got a similar pcpp list. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/OAlex_/saved/#view=VC4dD3
little osprey
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kq3H7T this is what i have now
viral ore
@valid sable gonna b honest, that looks great, but why liquid cooling?
valid sable
I've never tried liquid cooling to be honest and I was thinking about trying it, and it would keep my temps down
viral ore
yeah, theres nothing wrong with it
little osprey
I have the h100 on mine
valid sable
right now I just have a cooler master hyper 212 evo
little osprey
are you gonna oc ?
valid sable
maybe slightly
little osprey
well, i'd say that you should buy another cooler instead of the stock one
but im no expert
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kq3H7T i need this to be $100 less
and idk what to change
little osprey
@little osprey case is kinda expensive you can find some for 50 bucks
but your choice
viral ore
this and whats going on in #graphics-cards
little osprey
the guy wants that case
viral ore
ALEX will help u
viral ore
i help @valid sable
little osprey
everything can be worked with besides the case
okay
and he said he wants a lot on rgb
kk
valid sable
Anyways what I was saying is that I could just use my hyper 212 evo instead of the stock cooler if I wanted to cut down on the price
little osprey
no hdd ? @little osprey
valid sable
Im already going to be using my psu that I have and it's 700 watts
viral ore
yeah, the 212 is good too
little osprey
if u can include it within the budget that would be great
yeah, I think that's gonna be a problem lol
thats what i was thinking
maybe reduce sdd size
1 tb is still a good amount
to 500gb?
500gb for boot drive and a hdd
thats should work
viral ore
@valid sable what components do you already own, if any?
besides the 212
imma make up an improvised parts list
little osprey
I think so, but I am no expert. So i recommend that you get help from a more experienced person.
valid sable
My current system has an Fx-8350, GTX 1060 6gb, 16gb of ram, 4 500 gb hdd's in a raid 1+0 setup plus another 500 gb for other stuff
little osprey
i think we can actually drop the ssd to 250
viral ore
so would you like to keep your hdds?
valid sable
They wont work since they are setup in raid and I would like to keep all of the data
valid sable
no its a sata controller mode, so basically it combines the 4 hard drives into 1 and it allows for a drive failure, 2x read/write speeds
little osprey
@little osprey I wouldn't go below 500gb imo. Got a 250gb ssd and its a bit slow.
viral ore
ahh, so the data gotta be moved off the drives, or would you just use the old machine as a nas type deal?
little osprey
alright
valid sable
all of the data (1 TB for the raid) would have to be moved somewhere else so thats why im just gonna get new drives
viral ore
ok
valid sable
and hdd's are slow now days
viral ore
do you need wifi?
viral ore
cool
sacred obsidian
usb wifi is not as good as pcie wifi
or on board
if you're using wifi i recomend getting a wifi board or a good pcie wifi adapter
valid sable
I really don't want to disassemble it because im probably still gonna use it sometimes and the case as you can see is not very stylish lmao.
viral ore
aight
sacred obsidian
I've got a budget of $1,300 and heres what I was thinking for the specs: Ryzen 7 2700x Rtx 2070 super 32gb's of ram @3200 MHz (Im excluding storage psu and case to keep the list short)
this should be doable whats the problem
viral ore
sacred obsidian
im trying to skim through and im not seeing anything significant lol
sacred obsidian
oh ok you're discussing a build in progress. i thought you were saying it was unrealistic lol
valid sable
I already have a psu too
sacred obsidian
the only thing i disagree with on that list
viral ore
o which one
sacred obsidian
is micro atx case
viral ore
it micro atx board
sacred obsidian
but im biased cause thats all ive used until recent
and theyre annoying to build in sometimes xD
sacred obsidian
also isnt the CX considered bad? legit dont know cause im bad with psu names lol
sacred obsidian
i mean the build is good
valid sable
in my current pc I have an evga 700 watt bronze psu
sacred obsidian
is you dismantling the old pc or are these just parts you have other than current?
valid sable
Im building a whole new pc
viral ore
so your gonna pull out the psu from your current build?
sacred obsidian
so you already have cooler, psu, and gpu that isnt in your current pc?
valid sable
I'm not gonna use the old cooler but I have the psu since its already in my current build
sacred obsidian
i thought you didnt wanna take apart the old pc tho
valid sable
I have other cheaper psu's I can throw in here since I wont be using it very often
valid sable
no, I think 4TB is enough lol
viral ore
what about 2 2tb drives
in raid 1
or is your data not super important
i mean, i doubt this drive will fail any time soon lmao
valid sable
the important stuff will be on the ssd or maybe an external hard drive that I already have, so a raid setup isn't necessary
Im just gonna put games and some not very important projects on the hdd
viral ore
aight sounds good
sacred obsidian
if you're goign to use the SSD for actual storage you probably going to want a bigger SSD
250 fills up super fast
viral ore
i mean he got the budget left for it
my laptop has 256, and im only using half
its got windows, and drivers, and software, and stuff
valid sable
well I was just planning on using it for the os and maybe some other things since I already have a 1TB external drive I can put things on
sacred obsidian
my desktop has a 500tb ssd and 4tb of hdd space and its near full xD
but i download a lot of stuff lol
viral ore
ive lost so much data over the years of bouncing from pc to pc
not like, improtant stuff
just like disk images and programs
and lots of other handy things
valid sable
My projects that I do on photoshop, premiere pro, after effects, InDesign, etc are all on my external drive so no worries about that
sacred obsidian
alright but if you got the budget and you're not trying to cheap out id at least bump that ssd to 500
sacred obsidian
it is for most people but more space never hurts lol
especially dat tasty, delicious ssd space
valid sable
I guess I could go for a WD 500 gb nvme its only $60
short relic
Anyone know if I should boot in csm or uefi?
sacred obsidian
while im not saying no, cause i love the brand, people on ehre advise against it
i think mort pcs are uefi but idr
i forgot what the diff was
viral ore
dram cache
sabrent rocket is the cheapest nvme with dram cache
even then though, its like 40 more for the 512gb one
so
its not that much more
little osprey
can someone help me with a budget build
little osprey
ok
formal plover
How mak cheap game computer
viral ore
looking for an excuse not to do school work
sacred obsidian
spend 800$
formal plover
@viral ore me too
viral ore
yeah, could use a few tweaks
formal plover
Get a big hdd
sacred obsidian
yes cow thats a good build
little osprey
to what
formal plover
And get an AMD gpu
viral ore
cheaper case, maybe
sacred obsidian
prolly the best build ive seen from someone asking for help with a build so far xD
viral ore
ya
formal plover
They are very value town
viral ore
you could probably get away with a 256gb ssd and a hdd
formal plover
Get the rx570 8gb, it's rated the best value
sacred obsidian
you could save a few bucks here and there
little osprey
ok so a cheaper case large hdd
formal plover
Yeah and and gpu
mossy citrus
@snow fulcrum get a wifi board
little osprey
i dont need a wifi board
formal plover
It will save you money and give you the same (or better) perfprmance
little osprey
it would be a waste
mossy citrus
Yes
little osprey
Yeah
formal plover
Really?
cursive wharf
very much so
formal plover
Well there's this other amd one and it's like 280 but it is a beast
sacred obsidian
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zjJt9G saved a few bucks added 2tb hdd
cursive wharf
1660S is basically 1070 levels while 570 is 1060 3gb - 6gb
formal plover
280 bucks
cursive wharf
That'd be the 5600XT
formal plover
Yeah
cursive wharf
very different from 570
viral ore
formal plover
570 is pretty value though
formal plover
There a one on eBay for 80 bucks
sacred obsidian
he was cutting down cost
mossy citrus
I like the hp ex900
viral ore
more storage less cost
mossy citrus
Or 660p
viral ore
nO dRaM CaChe
cursive wharf
@viral ore comparing the rocket and Inland one, basically exact same specs
cursive wharf
cursive wharf
that or a cheaper NVMe. Dont think the Inland one was the cheapest
of that quality
cursive wharf
CX is good
mossy citrus
mossy citrus
@little osprey
mossy citrus
-_-
cursive wharf
Also very limited upgradability with that PSU
not much in the term of PCIe connectors
sacred obsidian
i wouldnt go 450 on the psu infinity
close to max and not much room for upgradability
little osprey
@cursive wharf can you help me out
cursive wharf
775 realistically
viral ore
might need some case fans tho
little osprey
yeah
viral ore
i mean its between 750 and 800
little osprey
ik
viral ore
or you could look for a diff case
viral ore
tbh idk
little osprey
1300
cursive wharf
use case is gaming? something else?
little osprey
gaming
worldly flame
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKwQOYz2Iv0
Jay absolutely killed it with this case mod
cursive wharf
streaming as well?
little osprey
no
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/OAlex_/saved/#view=VC4dD3 great for mid-end streaming and gaming ?
cursive wharf
@little osprey need WiFi?
cursive wharf
You're throwing away about $160 min, which can be quite useful in performance
You get a lot more when removing that case
little osprey
ya ik but the guy wants that case
cursive wharf
so looks over a good performance boost?
little osprey
pretty much
for this build should i get the fractal meshify matx case or stick with the mid
viral ore
didnt we already go over that?
cursive wharf
@little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LtL4YH
little osprey
Yeah but idk if i should get the matx or the mid variant
viral ore
especially on a 750 budget
little osprey
yeah ik
little osprey
yeah
viral ore
but theyre the same other than that
cursive wharf
Corsair RAM is overpriced tbh
get cheaper RAM and port the money over to a better mobo or smth
viral ore
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HZzkWb
heres what i came up with before, i will change the case and gpu
little osprey
he wants a lot of rgb
@cursive wharf
more rgb = more expensive
(based on my experiences)
ya
cursive wharf
RGB components = bad quality
RPG PSU? Bad quality
cheap RGB RAM?
bad quality
cheap RGB mobo?
bad quality
teal bison
isnt trident z ram like some of the best?
cursive wharf
you're risking a lot more perf
little osprey
so trident is bad?
cursive wharf
Neo is
cursive wharf
Neo is good, but pricy
viral ore
neo does 3600 cl 14
cursive wharf
there arent any decent cheap RGB RAM that have good freq and timings
viral ore
for the 2x8
cursive wharf
you have a bit of budget left, but not a whole lot for upgrading all to RGB
little osprey
@viral ore thanks
cursive wharf
Also
does your RAM OC to 3466/3600 CL16?
That was the reason I choose those Crucial sticks
cursive wharf
I mean, running your RAM at anything but 2133 is OCing
because that is JDEC speeds
3600 CL16 RAM is only $10 more then the ones I choose
viral ore
JEDEC
cursive wharf
CloSe eNoUgH
viral ore
YeAh I kNoW
cursive wharf
anyways, getting RGB fans does 97% of the RGB job
wasting money on other RGB components is kinda eh
little osprey
i only go with aio tho
little osprey
i mean u call it a waste
cursive wharf
you're losing performance for minimal looks
little osprey
^^
cursive wharf
AIOs barely perform any better then air coolers
esp in noise normalized performance
little osprey
but they certainly look better
cursive wharf
And you friend is willing to lose about $250+ in performance for small looks that you rarely look at because 99.9999% of the time you're looking at the monitor
little osprey
i will take the cpu and mobo from your build tho
cursive wharf
take the PSU
little osprey
and that
cursive wharf
Smart RGB is poor quality for what it is
cursive wharf
Also SSD is basically the same perf as the WD blue, but cheaper
If you dont want to "OC" memory then go with this RAM. Still better quality then what was originally given.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gvkc
cursive wharf
Most likely the seller your friend well get the mobo from will have an updated BIOS. Thus no issues will happen. Just ask him to ask the seller if the mobo is Zen2 ready
little osprey
is vuugo a great delivery service ? I see reviews saying that their customer service is s*it.
alright
floral tree
Anyone know if a software that checks if all your drivers are updated
Anyone? Anyone?
little osprey
vivid atlas
If I buy parts and have the build done by a "professional" / businessperson, will this person usually warranty the entire PC and offer free customer service if there are problems with the system ?
vivid atlas
Nah smaller businesses (I’m not in US)
foggy hazel
@vivid atlas you have to talk with them about that
local law also matters in cases like that
example: IF i was to accept a build like what you are talking about. I would only give warranty IF the parts are shipped directly to me from the retailer(s) that the customer is buying from. But the warranty would be given with the written notice that things will take a fair amount of time, and that i will get around to servicing the machine when i have time, not when the customer thinks i should work on it.
vivid atlas
I see. Thanks for answering @foggy hazel
foggy hazel
you are very welcome :)
mind, having someone local assemble the machine can be a good idea
just dont expect them to work miracles for a fiver
upper condor
Hey, anyone know a good wifi card for around 80?
vivid atlas
Yeah, but I still think that this person could do a better job than me (especially with cable management). My legal guardians were okay with me getting a PC, but only prebuilt. I told them that wasn’t a great idea and convinced them that I’ll build the system myself, but they are worried about me messing up with pretty expensive hardware and that’s why they want me go see a local builder who’s experienced in the domain @foggy hazel
upper condor
@vivid atlas whats the budget
vivid atlas
I know some shops that sell hardware and offer building, I’ll try to go there and get everything done there
@upper condor Idk around 700 for pc why ?
vivid atlas
OK 🙂
Nah, I’m in Asia
Would love to have a Micro Center near me though
That could potentially make my system for same budget better
If I bought from a Micro Center
vivid atlas
Good deals
Well, in South Korea deals are pretty good too ( I guess lol) $100 for 2600. $145 for 3600
I guess this isn’t much compared to Micro Center but it’s better from my perspective than buying from Newegg/Amazon because of taxes and shipping
upper condor
Usd?
vivid atlas
Yep $
foggy hazel
@vivid atlas fair talk :)
vivid atlas
I guess if I told you the prices in KR₩ it’ll be harder to understand lol
sudden turret
to many zeros.
vivid atlas
Yeah, that’s right
sudden turret
😄
upper condor
@sudden turret too*
vivid atlas
e.e
sacred obsidian
yes
foggy hazel
@little osprey aye
sacred obsidian
i wouldnt even change anything lol
foggy hazel
i wouldnt
if there is anything that you could wait on, it would be the Barracude 2tb drive
it is a simple thing to install later
upper condor
This is a question ive been asking too many times, @little osprey do you have a microcenter nearby?
sacred obsidian
2 hours actually isnt that bad. if they have all or most things you want, they price match and if you buy the mobo and cpu, you get 30$ off.
and most of the time their prices beat newegg and amazon
sacred obsidian
yeah thats what i mean
they have really good prices lol
i drive 1.5 hours to mine quite often cause i usually go in the middle of rush lol
little osprey
I have one a country away lol
still frigate
Guess I’m lucky to have one in my area. Only a 20 minute drive for me.
upper condor
I used to have one like 10 minutes away
little osprey
that's sick! I wonder if they'll come to canada
oak moss
what we talking about?
supple arrow
Micro Center
oak moss
oof, we poor over here. we dont have one around here
supple arrow
closest one to me is about 2 hours away
little osprey
7 hours for me
tranquil dust
less than an hour for me
little osprey
do they deliver ?
foggy hazel
@little osprey yes, just like it was yesterday when you asked, with the same build
little osprey
its a different build
foggy hazel
it sure looks the same
little osprey
yeah
but 2060s instead of 1660s
should i go with a ryzen 5 2600x instead of just the 2600
little osprey
ok
fringe bloom
Hey.
Anybody know the motherboard type of the dell optiflex 755 sff?
viral ore
proprietary