#building-and-recc-chat

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upper condor
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Asking if this build is unbalanced

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No parts are concrete

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The cpu and cooler are cpu for debate

stoic island
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You could get a 2060 for like 30$ more

vivid atlas
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2080 SUPER and 550W ?

stoic island
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lol wut

vivid atlas
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That’s kinda strange

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I would go with high end 650+

latent bronze
upper condor
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Sorry

vivid atlas
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No need to be sorry lol

upper condor
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Meant to do the 750

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Just to be prepared for the future

vivid atlas
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I would go higher end than Phanteks AMP too

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But that’s up to your decisions

upper condor
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Like, corsair rm or

vivid atlas
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Also, you should be able to push decent frames at 1440P

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Like 2080 super is meant for 144hz 1440p

latent bronze
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EVGA

stoic island
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RMx was suppoed to be slightly better I think

vivid atlas
stoic island
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yea

upper condor
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@vivid atlas am gonna get 1440p later

stoic island
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but RM and RMx are both tier A

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I think RMx is slightly better one sec

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yea RMx has slightly better caps

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Oh and also sabrent rocket q isnt great if you can just spend like 30$ more

upper condor
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The max is 2k

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So a better psu, normal sabrent and 3700x

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?

stoic island
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lemme look again

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Better monitor too

vivid atlas
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3600 usually shouldn’t bottleneck a 2080 super

stoic island
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maybe a MAG271cqr or smth

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tbh I would slap on a better cooler like a nh u12s or smth since you dont need more cores for gaming

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this is what I would suggest

foggy hazel
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is there a reason for the tomahawk?

upper condor
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Not really

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Cheap?

stoic island
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idk, but max for 3rd gen bios

upper condor
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No

foggy hazel
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tomahawk is a reddit darling. that is about all it is good for.

upper condor
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Not fir 3rd gen

stoic island
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? yes

upper condor
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Im not dumb, I check manufacturer pages

foggy hazel
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if you dont plan on trying to oc-ing the pants of the cpu

upper condor
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Yeah na

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Im just gaming and streaming every once in a while

stoic island
foggy hazel
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2k max?

stoic island
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Im confused by "not fir 3rd gen"

foggy hazel
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that is on @upper condor to explain :)

upper condor
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For

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2k max

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Leave like 75 for keyboard and mouse

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Idc about a good one rn

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Can do that later

foggy hazel
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@upper condor could you explain what you mean by what you said about 3rd gen? because you seem to have confused @stoic island a fair deal

upper condor
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Sorry, I meant I didnt pick the Max for the 3rd gen compatibility

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Because other boards have that on the manufacturer's page

foggy hazel
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@stoic island does that make more sense?

upper condor
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Sorry then

foggy hazel
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iirc, you dont want/care for wifi right?

upper condor
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If it is included, sure but not needed

little osprey
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What's wrong with the other case @latent bronze

latent bronze
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The other one seems more on looks than airflow

foggy hazel
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@upper condor i am searching through the boards now for soundchips

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bingo

little osprey
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It comes with 3 fans

upper condor
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.....

foggy hazel
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@upper condor you chose that specific evga for the looks right?

upper condor
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No

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Just think evga is good

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Performance wise and looks

foggy hazel
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ah, reason i ask is that one is the one with the clear shroud

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which normally carries a premium over the non-clear one

upper condor
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Oh, well yeah Id like that one

foggy hazel
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you cleared that psu with Hei @upper condor ?

upper condor
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Well, a 2080s with an amp isnt the best

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Or whatever gpu

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And its like 10$ for the rm

foggy hazel
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@upper condor the case you have selected is because of looks?

upper condor
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Yes, also gn gave it best thermals and overall case of this year

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(Gamers nexus)

foggy hazel
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the yes was enough :)

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that shows it is a choice you have made :)

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and that is fair :)

upper condor
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Just giving more reasoning, sorry

foggy hazel
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nothing to be sorry about :)

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yes, it tips over, but i have also been a bit heavy handed

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all it takes to go back under is remove the noctua and/or mouse/keyboard

upper condor
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Mhm

foggy hazel
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and yes, that psu is not cheap, it does come with a 12year warranty thou :)

upper condor
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Nice

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Only 15$ more though

foggy hazel
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and the reason for that mainboard is the 1200 soundchip

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yes, but it is more, hence why i mention it

upper condor
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Im sad my friend who knows nothing about pcs approached me and asked me to build a pc with a 3k budget

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Just the pc also

foggy hazel
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mouse+keyboard is just a suggestion/placeholder

upper condor
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Mhm

foggy hazel
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but, i can say that the mouse is a very nice one, it is one of the ones i have in rotation here.

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the "infinity" scroll is quite addicting

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with that said. you are more or less sorted

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oh yes, the cpu ofc was updated to a 8core

upper condor
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The "infinity" means that you can make it scroll forever right?

foggy hazel
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there is a toggle that removes the "click" you normally have in a scroll wheel

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@little osprey have you gotten help or have you only gotten random disjointed suggestions ?

little osprey
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Well someone recommend me that build

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@foggy hazel

upper condor
little osprey
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What The 4gb of ram lol

upper condor
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xD

foggy hazel
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@little osprey you want recommendations on changes or?

upper condor
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Why do you think i need a new one?

little osprey
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Yeah sure

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Do you game on it ?

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@upper condor

upper condor
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Uh yeah lowest settings 10fps

foggy hazel
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@little osprey you planning to actually OC it?

little osprey
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Can your mobo support ddr4 ram?

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Possibly naed

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But probaly not a huge oc

foggy hazel
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scrap what you have invested into making it ready for that and buy a higher SKU of cpu

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meaning, scrap the cooler, and scrap the useless board

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and get the 3600x instead

little osprey
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You don't like the tomakawk?

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Wanna make a list for me

foggy hazel
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it is a waste of money imo

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i will modify what you have, after you answer this

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your headphones etc are they usb or minijack?

little osprey
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My headset is mini jack

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Single plug for both audio and mic

foggy hazel
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okay, give me 3-4 minutes

little osprey
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Alright

floral zephyr
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ok so i have this usb wifi adapter, it works ok, but it doesnt let me connect to 5ghz like it advertised. when i do connect to a 5ghz wifi signal the adapter just stops working and i have to unplug then replug it in. been thinking about going with a pcie wifi card but my gpu covers the slot so i would have to get a pcie riser and mount my wifi card lower.

foggy hazel
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@floral zephyr 2 things, go back to the vendor that sold you that.

little osprey
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Have you tried plugging it in directly to the mobo ?

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If it already is try plugging it in in a different port

foggy hazel
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2nd, what Tyler beat me to asking about :)

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mind, i kept some of the things that you had, because i HOPE that you have talked with someone about the system you arrived here with?

little osprey
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Oh okay so basically just the mobo and cpu

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I heard the x only ads like 5fps at most

upper condor
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Why 3600X?

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Its cheap rn nvm

foggy hazel
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because there was room in the budget

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i am below what was used before, with no loss

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and the gain is a faster machine out of the box

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with a soundchip that is decent

floral zephyr
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it was plugged in yes, ive also tried plugging it into different ports

little osprey
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So could you explain why that mobo vs tomahawk?

foggy hazel
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soundchip

little osprey
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Cc you have duel band WiFi correct?

foggy hazel
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the soundcard that is on the board is actually good vs the tomahawk one

little osprey
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I'm I gonna need a audio splitter?

upper condor
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@foggy hazel you like soundcars

little osprey
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@floral zephyr

foggy hazel
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@upper condor yes/no. It is something that actually improves the experience for people. Unlike a vrm that wont benefit them

little osprey
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Naed is that the gpu you'd use for around 300?

foggy hazel
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@little osprey if you are using a headset that is normally used for mobile phones? yes

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however, a splitter should be a couple of bucks

little osprey
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yeah

floral zephyr
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yes i do, sorry i was looking at Powerline Ethernet Adapters

foggy hazel
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@little osprey let me ask in a different venue first: Total budget?

little osprey
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Okay and you installed all the nessisary drivers?

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Probaly around 900 little over is fine tho

floral zephyr
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yes i did.

little osprey
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Maybe try reinstalling them

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If that doesn't work I'd return it

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I could tell you the one I use works great and is around 20$ I think

foggy hazel
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you planning on doing any streaming @little osprey

little osprey
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Possibly but probaly not though so nah

stoic island
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Rtx 2060 is an option

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Now that prices are down to ~300

foggy hazel
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not for another 25-30usd

floral zephyr
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i think i paid a little more for mine. ill probably end up returning it and going with a powerline adapter

stoic island
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Theres a GB 2060 at 330$ with a 30$ rebate

little osprey
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You could always get WiFi mesh

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But it's expensive

foggy hazel
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@stoic island rebates are never counted.

stoic island
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Alr

foggy hazel
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because people are lazy gits in that regard

stoic island
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The 2060ko was at 320. Still high but meh

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Possible option still imo

foggy hazel
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aye. i did not say it was not.

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but things have to move in the current config for that :)

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@little osprey any special reason for that case?

little osprey
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No other than it looks pretty good

stoic island
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Ahh I assumed there was wiggle room. Carry on :p

little osprey
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Have you guys heard of star citizen ?

stoic island
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The game that like keeps delaying release?

little osprey
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That's the one

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Looks sick

stoic island
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I'm just concerned

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Bc so much has been paid for preordering and the game hasn't done too much

little osprey
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It's like eve online but better

foggy hazel
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@little osprey i would have to go on a bit of a review reading binge to recommend a different 5600xt. so if we place an asterix at that one for now. Then the rest of the components are fairly solid

upper condor
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Oh my God

cursive wharf
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TUF non x570?

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Why tho?

foggy hazel
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@cursive wharf soundchip

little osprey
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Alright sweet

foggy hazel
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first board in the 450 line that actually uses the 1200 chip

stoic island
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That looks unbalanced...

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3600+2080ti

little osprey
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Use a bottleneck calc

cursive wharf
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No

foggy hazel
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there are a LOT of things that are bonkers with that one @upper condor , do tell, are you trawling reddit or something?

cursive wharf
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Don't use a bottleneck calculator
Also a 3600 and 2080Ti technically isn't unbalanced

foggy hazel
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depends on what you want to do (<- clarification on what Hei is saying)

cursive wharf
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Pure gaming wise it isn't tbh

stoic island
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Why not just ripjaw v 3600mhzcl16 kit

foggy hazel
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"bottleneck" and "vrm quality" are words that the standard consumer have no idea about what actually means

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but that has, sadly, not stopped them from screaming them at the top of their lungs all over the internet

stoic island
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^dats me

upper condor
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@foggy hazel just looking at builds from other pc discords

cursive wharf
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You might be able to fit a 3600cl16 kit there. That or one of Crucial's kits that OCs well

foggy hazel
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@upper condor posting stuff without context is not really a fair thing to do mate.

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there are plenty of comments on here that would look hilariously silly if the context was removed.

upper condor
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Well true

cursive wharf
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Anyways, back to TUF, that thing will hold back some cheap-ish upgrade to a better Zen2/Zen3 chip later down the line

foggy hazel
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anything specific you are thinking about @cursive wharf ?

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if oc related, they dont matter in this case.

cursive wharf
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Well, spend what will probably be a small amount on a 3900x or 4900x in like 3 years

foggy hazel
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we have no idea if that will work at this point

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so when on a budget like that build is. there are other things that come first.

cursive wharf
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Actually unless prices rose you can get a 5700 with a $900 budget, with a SATA SSD and such

foggy hazel
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yes, IF you want a sata ssd

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IF you are willing to take the things that come with that "tumble"

cursive wharf
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I guess

upper condor
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Hey so I have a 3600 in my idea for a build, should I upgrade to a 2080s or 3700X?

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Just gonna be gaming btw

upper condor
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decent build?

stoic island
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I give up

upper condor
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What

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bad psu and overprice ram

foggy hazel
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why are you posting other peoples builds here?

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because they are not your build

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nor are they speculative builds on your behalf

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they are builds that someone else put together, posted somewhere else.

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and then you copy them here and get them "fixed" [edit: fixes]

upper condor
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No

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this is for a friend

stoic island
upper condor
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Ur gonna make fun of me arent u

stoic island
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Is it a decent build tho?

foggy hazel
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its a workable build.

upper condor
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Depends on when

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2070s was out.

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?*

stoic island
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It's my actual build

upper condor
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Oh lol

stoic island
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Used to be a 2700-2070

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Upgraded CPU and ram

foggy hazel
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@upper condor the amount of builds you post here is why i said what i did above

upper condor
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Sorry

foggy hazel
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nothing to be sorry about

upper condor
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my friend is very undecisive and doesnt have discord. I have asked him to do it himself but he wont

foggy hazel
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but one could wonder if someone isnt being too nice

upper condor
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@stoic island

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hows that case

stoic island
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Mine? Works well.

upper condor
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Heard good stuff about it

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Btw, @foggy hazel I haven't actually gotten all my parts so ever consider I'm asking sbout my own build?

foggy hazel
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yes, i did consider that. But i also know that IF you are asking abiout your own build each time, the conversation merely changes to asking you: Why the multiple changes of heart?

clever shadow
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three of the four parts that i am getting i will arrive tomorrow im kinda excited for it but the gpu will be arriving on the 30th

sharp perch
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anyone help me?

teal bison
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Sure what you need?

sharp perch
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and what needs to change

teal bison
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I dont think anything needs to change but you can save some money

foggy hazel
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mem needs to change.

teal bison
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For example, the storage is pretty expensive

sharp perch
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true

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to?

foggy hazel
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that is potentially just the start.

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@teal bison you want to follow this to the door or?

teal bison
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?

still roostBOT
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yousseftdl#9999 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

foggy hazel
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or do you mind if i chip in?

teal bison
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You go a head bud

foggy hazel
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fair

teal bison
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I'm not good at this

foggy hazel
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@sharp perch a bunch of questions: Budget? Usecase? visuals over performance? Formfactor? Peripherals are locked in or?

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those are the starting questions

sharp perch
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usecase?

foggy hazel
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gaming? workstation? etc

sharp perch
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ehm I guess 2500?

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gaming editing and maybe music

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ehm

foggy hazel
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editing as in, video or sound ? or a mix?

still roostBOT
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yousseftdl#9999 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

sharp perch
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comp

foggy hazel
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watch your words mate

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:)

sharp perch
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is that bad

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why is comp ba

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d

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so good for tournaments to game on

foggy hazel
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it was not comp that was bad, its the 4 letter S word you keep saying :)

sharp perch
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editing as in videos

foggy hazel
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kk

sharp perch
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oh really

foggy hazel
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the rest of the answers please :)

sharp perch
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competetive

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yes let me check

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good sir

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sound aswell gaming and workstation the peripherals il get myself performance good and can doesnt have to be overclocked formfactor what is that?

foggy hazel
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formfactor: think overall size of things

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i ask because you posted a m-atx build

sharp perch
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well the case doesnt have to be big just normal like a nzxt 700 or something that big or like the case I did the corsair 280x

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thatarea

foggy hazel
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so, mid-tower-ish

sharp perch
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yeah sure

foggy hazel
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okay.

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next series of questions

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do you need wifi?

sharp perch
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duh how am I gonna play games; )

foggy hazel
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by being wired.

sharp perch
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no wireless

foggy hazel
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okay

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the water cooling you have in the build. Any specific reason for that?

sharp perch
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question 1000

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well I didnt know for sure if I needed it I just wanted it to not blow up and keep low celcius

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so I could take it higher

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to high resolution

foggy hazel
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the money you are paying for the water cooling could give you a much better better cpu

sharp perch
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and to make it cool;)

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true

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but the other cooler where I can find it

foggy hazel
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so, water was selected because... no real reason. so not that important?

sharp perch
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no

foggy hazel
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k

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give me ... 5-10 minutes and i will have a build for you

sharp perch
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okay thx

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I could always change it when I have money again

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the cooler for the cpy

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cpu

foggy hazel
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the stock cooler is not bad

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but we will talk in a bit about it all :)

sharp perch
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okay

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but like an air cooler takes a lot of space and looks weird

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ya know

teal bison
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So the water cooler was for aesthetics

foggy hazel
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what you are saying @sharp perch is visual over performance.

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not the other way around.

tranquil dust
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yikes

sharp perch
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okay

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do you have the things;)

foggy hazel
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battling with availability in your region

sharp perch
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okay

foggy hazel
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pcpartpicker does not have that many dutch e-shops

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mind, it is not final

sharp perch
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take your time

foggy hazel
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i need to find replacements for the drives. because those are more expensive than they should be (for the performance they offer)

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but the core of it is this:

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8 core cpu vs 6

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32gigs of ram vs 16

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air cooler vs water

sharp perch
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so nearly done

foggy hazel
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a very good psu with a 12 year warranty vs the corsair overpriced one

sharp perch
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I see some changes

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lol

foggy hazel
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those are the changes so far.

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give me a sec so pick the brains of someone else for a bit

sharp perch
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okay

foggy hazel
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@sharp perch still around?

sharp perch
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yes sir

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watching youtube

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so you got the stuff

foggy hazel
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aye, i believe so

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it comes with a couple of notices thou

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(for the lurkers, availability in that region is .. silly ...)

sharp perch
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il check it

foggy hazel
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the m.2 stays the same, because there is so little difference price-wise

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the 2.5inch ssd gets changed to the non-pro version, because those 100+ euro can be used somewhere more resonable

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while you look, i will go and see if i can find a noctua retailer in holland

sharp perch
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this is everything I need right?

foggy hazel
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aye

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it is

sharp perch
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okay

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what fps will I get

foggy hazel
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there are some of the peripherals i would like to talk with you about, just a casual curious conversation, but that is not important.

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you will get X depending on Y game.

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you mentioned competitive, but you never mentioned the game

sharp perch
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oh well fn,gta,apex maybe, tomb raider and other games overwatch

foggy hazel
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it should do wonders

sharp perch
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over 200?

foggy hazel
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basically, just look at what a 2070super can do

sharp perch
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yeah

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so would you like to talk about the key board and mouse

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?

foggy hazel
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found a retailer for preferred air cooler

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it costs 70euro at their shop

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actually

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let me suggest this instead

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i am aware that pushes the budget

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it is over by 37euro

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but, considering the topic we are going to be talking about, there is a chance that the budget will be fine after we talk mouse, keyboard and headset

sharp perch
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Il buy the pheriferals some other time

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than

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I already got mouse and key but didnt like them

foggy hazel
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fair :)

sharp perch
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so I will change them wich gives you extra euros:)

foggy hazel
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no need for that

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the system is not going to get "faster"

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by that

sharp perch
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okay

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let me take them out and see how mutch it us

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is

foggy hazel
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keyboard + mouse was 300 euro

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the linked build is in the category that a lot of people would call silly fast

sharp perch
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that ends up at 2k

foggy hazel
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2.2

sharp perch
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I had a headset aswell

foggy hazel
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aye, but no price on that is available for me to see at least

sharp perch
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yeah for me its 1958 euros

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or which website is the best to get everything

foggy hazel
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just to make certain, drop the link again?

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because it changes when you change something :)

sharp perch
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okay

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should I save first:)

foggy hazel
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the link in the upper left changes while you do things, saving should not be needed

sharp perch
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woops

cursive wharf
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That's a lot of Samsung storage

sharp perch
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3tb

cursive wharf
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as a note here, Samsung is usually overpriced

sharp perch
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true

cursive wharf
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I find most of the time you get 2x the storage for the same price

foggy hazel
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ah, the price is because of the noctua cooler price not being saved. and the one you linked is the one with the 2070s, last i linked has a 2080s

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@cursive wharf not in holland

sharp perch
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wait you put a 2080s

foggy hazel
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yes

sharp perch
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the same brand

cursive wharf
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That SATA SSD is price comparative to others

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NVMe is decently priced comparitive

foggy hazel
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i could be changed, but the samsung is a bit better, so a bit of leeway can be granted for that

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hence why i stuck with the samsungs

sharp perch
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naed wich 2080s

foggy hazel
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that is the latest list

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which has the headset, mouse, keyboard removed

sharp perch
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0oay

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okay

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good

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cant i get them all from 1 website is better right

foggy hazel
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getting from 1 site can be more convenient.

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but it is not inherently better

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2sec, let me modify things a bit

sharp perch
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what?

foggy hazel
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it should give you a list that only shows azerty parts

sharp perch
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it also says paradigit

foggy hazel
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hm.

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on my end, when it only shows azerty, the total (without a case) is: €2064.60

sharp perch
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nice

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megekko

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aswell

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cd rom land

foggy hazel
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aye, for some reason it doesnt save the shop preference that i have here.

#

also, i have no idea why azerty doesnt list that case on pcpartpicker.

#

it is on their page

#

for cheaper

sharp perch
#

iek

#

idk

#

let me check

foggy hazel
#

same with the noctua

#

there you go

sharp perch
#

should I just paste everything there

#

and see price tomorrow

#

I need some sleep

foggy hazel
#

the price should stay the same. and we can have a chat about things tomorrow

#

i am located in denmark, so my timezones are the same to you

sharp perch
#

okay see ya man

foggy hazel
#

sleep well :)

sharp perch
#

you to:)

wispy matrix
#

Anyone gotta any good cases ( im bored and wanna look at cases

foggy hazel
#

search for CES 2020 cases

#

should give you something to entertain yourself with

wispy matrix
#

Thx naed

elfin remnant
#

My pc wont boot to windows but will boot to my bios, any ideas. All drives detected

stark siren
#

depends did you swap mobos or is this just a new problem

elfin remnant
#

New problem

#

Just got home to boot it up

stark siren
#

check cables and power maybe reseat

elfin remnant
#

tried that

stark siren
#

might change the boot options from legacy to UEFI in the bios as well

#

other than that might have a dead drive, i hope not cause that would suck

elfin remnant
#

Ill try that, if i do seagate can go f its self

stark siren
#

ohhh

#

not a fan of seagate so i understand

elfin remnant
#

nvm i boot of a samsung ssd

stark siren
#

well good luck maybe others will have a better idea than i

elfin remnant
#

Well no luck, i huess my boot drive is dead, rip ssd

stark siren
#

i would try one other thing to test. bestbuy sells a ssd external kit for like 25 bucks its actual the clone kit but you can just use it to like a external you could hook it up to another pc to make sure

elfin remnant
#

What would be signs of it being desd once i hook it up

#

IT BOOTED AYYY

#

i reset the cmso

#

cmos*

#

@stark siren thanks dude you a aboslute God

loud apex
#

I bought a gpu from Ali Express pray that I sont get the corona virus

viral ore
#

Don't worry about the virus, worry about the garbage GPU you just bought from ali

#

Unless that was your intention lmao

latent bronze
#

@viral ore the only way it would be garbage if he bought it from a low rated seller or if the GPU said something like a 5gb GTX 1060

viral ore
#

Let's hope

stark siren
#

@elfin remnant oh sweet !!!!

little osprey
vague crystal
#

you should get like a 144hz 1440p or 1080p 240hz

#

get a pcie 4.0

#

if you can

#

@little osprey

little osprey
#

yes

viral ore
#

ok now, unless hes doing storage intensive server tasks, that ssd is a no no

vague crystal
#

yeah

viral ore
#

i mean if you have money to throw around, go ahead

#

but if ur budget is under 4000, its not worth it

vague crystal
#

his is like 6000-8000

#

or somthing

foggy hazel
#

IF he is doing intensive actual server tasks, how about getting some hardware from that field instead of the consumer field

vague crystal
#

2tb hdd

viral ore
#

because hardware from that field is overpriced

foggy hazel
#

not if you need what it offers

rose pebble
vague crystal
#

all of my barruacudas have failed

#

2

viral ore
#

so whats this machine doing?

#

gaeming?

vague crystal
#

gaming and streaming

viral ore
#

ahh

#

why not just a 1tb drive

#

why 2 512

#

all that does is use up pcie lanes

cursive wharf
#

two cheap NVMe at that

#

which even in raid afaik that wont help with the cache issues

#

just extend it

foggy hazel
#

nope

#

aye

little osprey
foggy hazel
#

no psu?

viral ore
#

i think he already has one

#

iirc, we talked b4

vague crystal
#

oh god

#

@rose pebble what ssd again?

rose pebble
#

HP ex900 1tb

analog hearth
vague crystal
rose pebble
vague crystal
#

yup

#

thats not it

#

ram is diffrent

#

ram is 3000

#

DIFFERNT

#

lol

viral ore
rose pebble
viral ore
cursive wharf
#

@rose pebble you getting or have ex900?

#

It lacks DRAM so some situations will murder perf

foggy hazel
#

you didnt have to run away @viral ore :P

viral ore
#

o oops

foggy hazel
#

no no :)

#

just messing with you :)

viral ore
#

i thought you were saying bye to me after he left lmao

foggy hazel
#

thank you for the talk

viral ore
#

np

sharp perch
#

@foggy hazel how you doing

dark thistle
#

Forensic workstation build help?

eager chasm
#

Ummm... What

wind leaf
#

is a 2060 xc good or is the sc better

viral ore
#

They are almost identical @wind leaf

foggy hazel
#

@sharp perch alive and back from work

upper condor
#

@wind leaf hows your parts going

upper condor
#

Ok this is genuinely what I want to build

#

Last list

#

How could it be improved without changing price a ton?

foggy hazel
#

that sabrent is not the one you want

#

its a QLC drive

upper condor
#

Just the normal rocket then?

foggy hazel
#

aye

upper condor
#

Anything else then?

foggy hazel
#

nah

#

rest is choices you have made because you want them

upper condor
#

Sweet gonna order parts soon then

foggy hazel
#

best of luck :)

upper condor
#

Thanks

upper condor
#

@earnest echo what are your specs

earnest echo
foggy hazel
#

holy, how are you not blind sitting that close?

upper condor
#

Yeah was gonna ask

foggy hazel
#

@earnest echo that is not the crystal 280x case

earnest echo
#

?

foggy hazel
#

that is the bitfenix prodigy

earnest echo
#

No no

#

That's my brothers setup

upper condor
#

Ohhh

foggy hazel
#

how was anyone to know that?

#

:)

earnest echo
#

I pinged him my bad

#

He's kingblue

foggy hazel
#

yes, but @upper condor asked for your specs :)

earnest echo
#

I sent the link

foggy hazel
#

hence the confusion when you posted your brothers :)

earnest echo
#

Yeahh

#

Sorry for the confusion

foggy hazel
#

nothing to be sorry about :)

#

what is YOUR build i still unanswered thou :)

earnest echo
#

It's not built

#

I'm working on it

foggy hazel
#

ah, kk

earnest echo
#

Just getting the pieces

foggy hazel
#

then the question is this: how is your brother not blind?

earnest echo
#

Dk

#

He even wears glasses

foggy hazel
#

it hurts my eyes just thinking about sitting that close

earnest echo
#

It's a tv too not a monitor

foggy hazel
#

gah!

earnest echo
#

So he's still trying to buy one

upper condor
#

OoF

foggy hazel
#

would you like some suggestions for your build ?

earnest echo
#

Sure pls, but some off the pieces I've already got but I'll still take advice

foggy hazel
#

what parts have you got already?

earnest echo
#

Trying to stick within
£750-800+

#

Mobo
Case
Cpu
Cpu Cooler
Psu

foggy hazel
#

aye aye

#

so, ssd, ram, gpu is what you are missing.

earnest echo
#

And wifi card cause no built in wifi No

foggy hazel
#

yes, but that is more or less a given.

earnest echo
#

Ye

foggy hazel
#

it is a shame you didnt come to us earlier

#

could have gotten you a mobo with wifi for cheaper than the combo.

earnest echo
#

I heard of the server too late

#

Ah

foggy hazel
#

could also have easily actually kept it all in the itx formfactor

#

so a fairly small machine total

earnest echo
#

Someone recommended me the mobo and I was oblivious at the time

sacred obsidian
#

@earnest echo in reference to your pic, its a gorgeous set up, but if you can id go get a piece of wood, cut it out to shape and put it on top to like extend that thing into a desk a bit. it looks so cramped

earnest echo
#

That's not my build Thal_zzKek

sacred obsidian
#

oh

#

xD

earnest echo
#

That's kingblues

sacred obsidian
#

then do that for him

#

looks so uncomfortable to sit at

earnest echo
#

Riight

#

It kinda is l, we're working on getting the shelf removed and getting a desk there

sacred obsidian
#

i mean, id leave the cubbys and build the desk onto it lol

#

more storage

#

but thats just me xD

sullen spoke
#

I am a combination of too lazy and too tired so I need someone to find parts for a pc around $800 that is capable of running VR. Specifically iRacing in VR. @ me if someone gets something

foggy hazel
#

@earnest echo here is my suggestion for changes on the ssd, ram, gpu

#

same or faster at lower cost.

earnest echo
#

That looks way better

#

And there would be a bigger difference?

foggy hazel
#

tiny differences in speed here and there (in a positive way)

#

so it is basically a win/win situation for you @earnest echo

#

the biggest difference is the ssd.

earnest echo
#

Riight

#

Thanks a lot

#

Cheaper and better is always a pro

foggy hazel
#

you are very welcome @earnest echo

charred flint
#

Just got pc built boot via hdmi from mobo or gpu?

unreal hazel
#

Hi everyone. Can i ask a question here?

ember sierra
#

Yes

upper condor
#

Yes

foggy hazel
#

@charred flint you got a gpu installed? then that is where you plug your monitor

#

@unreal hazel ask away

ember sierra
#

He won’t

unreal hazel
#

Which one is better for office work only, is it Intel i5 or AMD Ryzen 3 3200G?

#

Sorry. I had to do something

foggy hazel
#

whichever one you buy @unreal hazel

#

but keep in mind, you are being very specific on the amd side, but VERY generic on the intel side

upper condor
cursive wharf
#

could add in a Gammaxx 400 CPU cooler so that you dont have to deal with a noisy CPU cooler (stock is okay, but fairly loud comparative to even cheap CPU coolers)

#

monitor, keyboard, and mouse I dont know much of so I cant exactly say they are the best options with confidence. Tho 502 Hero and Ducky I have heard are good

upper condor
#

Mhm

#

Does the gammaxx allow slight oc'ing then?

cursive wharf
#

It should

#

Tho generally slight OCing is kinda eh on Zen2

#

could just turn on PBO or smth

upper condor
#

Yeah

#

Probably

#

Besides that its good?

cursive wharf
#

yeah

upper condor
#

Sweet

marsh adder
#

I just finished a build w/ my gf. We just finished plugging in all the PSU cables, and then hit the on button.
...
EZ debug LED for CPU turns on, all fans spinning. Shortly after, everything stops.

#

Build is a i5-9600k, GTX 1060 3GB, 2x8gb ddr4 (in 1st and 3rd slots).

subtle halo
#

sad

#

wow we had same specs

#

quad ati

marsh adder
#

What?

subtle halo
#

ow you had quad

#

i had duo

marsh adder
#

heheheheh

#

(I need help w/ the build)

subtle halo
#

try to resit the cpu

#

or

#

check the monitor

#

when i install 3600

#

cpu led debug is on

#

and the scren says

marsh adder
#

Well the PC turns off instantly.

subtle halo
#

confiuring blah blah then press something to continue

#

then it reboot

marsh adder
#

The fans spin for a sec but then all stop (as well as the debug light)

subtle halo
#

ow

#

like shutdown? in few sec?

#

aw

#

then something is shorted

marsh adder
#

In less than a second.

subtle halo
#

it could be your gpu

#

or your motherboard is touching the back case because you dint put stand off..

#

my 570 is shorted before.. and same happen 1-2 sec pc died

marsh adder
#

Do all the standoffs have to be in?

#

Most are screwed in but some aren't.

#

The case is quite old so I didn't have all the standoffs.

still roostBOT
#
Icyyy#0260 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

#
Icyyy#0260 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

#
Icyyy#0260 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

little osprey
#

wow

viral ore
#

lmao

solemn knot
#

did u at least get a refund or replacement with warranty?

little osprey
#

who

solemn knot
#

the person's motherboard that mightve shorted out

little osprey
#

oh

spice mauve
viral ore
#

is this a dell optiplex?

#

you can get a pinout online if you search the model

regal forge
#

Can anyone with mother board knowledge help me please!

#

I cant send my list here becuase it kicks me from the server when I paste the list so I can dm you if you can help thanks!

cursive wharf
#

I mean just post a PC part picker list?

latent bronze
#

Almost looks like there is no standoff between the case and board

unreal hazel
#

@foggy hazel its Intel i5-9600k

marsh adder
#

@solemn knot it was recently bought

#

So yes, it is under warranty.

stoic island
#

wot

marsh adder
#

yes I know there is way too much thermal paste, but it shouldn't cause any problems, right?

stoic island
#

(thermal paste looks fine imo)

marsh adder
#

Ah.

stoic island
#

wdym cover the pins on the right?

marsh adder
#

I'm asking about the pins circled in the image.

stoic island
#

theres circles?

#

what

marsh adder
#

Yes, in yellow.

stoic island
#

oh shoot thats so light xD

marsh adder
#

oh rip lol

#

So.. should they be covered by the CPU?

#

@stoic island

stoic island
#

Hecking Intel, idk

marsh adder
#

Good point, good point.

cursive wharf
#

Just by looking at the sides for the socket itself it looks like there is a lot more wiggle room for the CPU then I'd expect

#

But not like I actually know much

marsh adder
#

She's reseating it bc the EZ debug CPU LED was on.

cursive wharf
#

take out the CPU and look at the pins

#

see if they are damaged

marsh adder
#

Yeah all the pins look fine.

cursive wharf
#

Are there enough stand offs to keep the board from touching the case

foggy hazel
#

@unreal hazel that comparison is akin to asking if a dingy fishing boat and a deep ocean trawler can both be used to catch fish.

#

those 2 move in very different waters

marsh adder
#

The mobo def doesn't touch the case but there are some missing standoffs.

heady spear
#

do you possibly have another cpu you could use? or maybe another mobo? to try and isolate the issue? @marsh adder

cursive wharf
#

Take everything unnecessary to get past that point. Remove the GPU, a RAM stick, drives, fans, etc

#

anything that could be faulty and shorting the system

marsh adder
#

hm I don't have any spare parts

heady spear
#

id try what Hei suggested

marsh adder
#

I think we'll continue tomorrow.

#

But yeah that'd be the next step.

#

Thanks.

cursive wharf
#

@marsh adder wait what chipset is the mobo?

#

only certain mobos support 9th gen right off the bat

#

most need a BIOS update

marsh adder
#

ooo I'll check

#

How do you update the BIOS without a CPU..?

cursive wharf
#

very little Intel mobos support that

marsh adder
#

Intel B360 Chipset

cursive wharf
#

unfortunate. Could need a BIOS update (some b360 may be updated already but not required)

#

also

#

9600K + b360 is a bad idea

#

cuz you cant OC, which is the main point of the K series

heady spear
#

agreed

cursive wharf
#

Thus money is wasted

marsh adder
#

Would she be better off with a new mobo, or buying a temp CPU to BIOS update and then return it?

foggy hazel
#

@cursive wharf there are other differences too

cursive wharf
#

I dont think the $80+ spent on what I think is 200mhz is worth it

foggy hazel
#

base frequency 3.1 vs 3.7

#

intel tdp 65 vs 95

marsh adder
#

Wait so should we return this mobo and buy a better one instead?

foggy hazel
#

if you put any weight on that is a different thing. But those are the differences.

heady spear
#

id get a z390 mobo imo

cursive wharf
#

400mhz difference with all core turbo

solemn knot
#

I wish i knew that b4 i built my pc

cursive wharf
foggy hazel
#

@cursive wharf i was talking K vs Non-K

marsh adder
solemn knot
#

My build -> i5-9600k 2060S 3200ghz ram and B360-H Mobo

heady spear
#

itll work

cursive wharf
#

yeah, but tbh I wouldnt get Intel

marsh adder
#

Okay, but we're going with Intel.

heady spear
#

but as for as how itll overclock thats out of my knowledge

solemn knot
#

if ur trying to save money i believe u can achieve the same thing with the Z270

cursive wharf
#

z370/z390
Tho 370 needs BIOS update

marsh adder
#

Hoping to stay around $100.

heady spear
#

that asrock will get you up and running tho

solemn knot
#

^^^

#

i was planning on switching to that bc its better overall and goes with my white pc build but im broke atm

unreal hazel
#

@foggy hazel so which is better?

foggy hazel
#

@unreal hazel if this is not a joke question. Then the intel one.

heady spear
#

lmao

foggy hazel
#

very much overkill, but it is better for that.

#

@heady spear in case you are not aware, it is 3200g vs 9600k

unreal hazel
#

@foggy hazel im new in building pc's and i really cant understand well of differences so im sorry

foggy hazel
#

nothing to be sorry about, but how on earth did you end up comparing those two?

#

they are leagues apart

heady spear
#

hey man we all ask dumb questions sometimes

#

its how we learn 🙂

stoic island
#

its like a 100$ cpu compared to a 200$ cpu

foggy hazel
#

considering that i always tell people that there are no stupid questions, only silly answers

#

i am fully aware of that @heady spear and i have to live up to the silly answer part sometimes

heady spear
#

i gotchu i gotchu

foggy hazel
#

if it makes you happy to think that, carry on :)

unreal hazel
#

@foggy hazel my sister is using my laptop because she is working as an online teacher, their minimum spec needed is i5. I was trying to figure out if what is at the same level as i5 in AMD Processor

#

@foggy hazel cause im looking online for a unit she can buy so i can get my laptop back.

heady spear
#

id say a 2600

#

for a simple answer lol

foggy hazel
#

@unreal hazel there is a very good chance that anything will work. IF it only says: i5 as the requirement. Then it is as generic as it comes in regards to requirements

#

@unreal hazel IF you want to make her happy, make certain that the laptop you get for her has a ssd. that will make her life a lot easier than a lot of other things.

unreal hazel
#

@foggy hazel I was planning to get a desktop. What can you suggest, should i go for AMD or just look for i5 unit?

foggy hazel
#

the amd route is cheaper for the same performance. so it is your choice.

#

but i cannot help you anymore tonight, it is close to 4 in the morning here :) i might keep odd hours, but i do need sleep at times :)

#

hopefully one of the others can step up. Perhaps @sacred obsidian feels up for it?

unreal hazel
#

@foggy hazel thanks a lot sir.

wispy matrix
#

Lurking in the shadow

foggy hazel
#

best of luck with the search :)

stoic island
#

good luck

wispy matrix
#

Good luck

sacred obsidian
#

whatsgoing on

#

@unreal hazel you still need help?

unreal hazel
#

Sir @sacred obsidian im just asking people here what can be an alternate processor for Intel i5 in AMD.

stoic island
#

(i5 was the only listed requirement, no specific cpu)

cursive wharf
#

i5 what?

sacred obsidian
#

well i5 is such a broad term. i5 has been a thing for a long time so it can range from a really weak cpu to a really strong one

cursive wharf
#

4500, 9400, 9600k...

#

some old i5 mobile CPU

stoic island
sacred obsidian
#

i read above lol

stoic island
#

prob anything 3400g and up idrk lol

cursive wharf
#

i5 mobile can range from 2c/4t to 4c/8t

sacred obsidian
#

what all are you/she planning on using it for?

clever shadow
#

I finally got my pc up and running with my new R7 2700x

sacred obsidian
#

sweet! looks good

viral ore
#

Build pics bro

sacred obsidian
#

nah its fine here i believe if he wants to tlak about it

#

if its just to show then build pics lol

#

i think

unreal hazel
#

@sacred obsidian she works as an online techer. Thats just what the minimum specs said " atleast i5"

viral ore
#

What does the software do?

#

Is it like a basic video conference program?

#

Does it deal with assignment submission and grading?

#

I'm gonna be real, i5 is a meaningless term, and doesn't help us at all

sacred obsidian
#

Hold on I have to leave the house I’ll be back in a few

unreal hazel
#

@viral ore yea your right. Wait let me ask first

sacred obsidian
#

im back

#

honestly for what you're likely to use it for you can build a decent pc pretty cheap. it wouldnt be able to game but its more than doable

cursive wharf
#

afaik this is suppose to be a laptop

sacred obsidian
#

no he said build a desktop

viral ore
#

Would a laptop be better suited tho?

clever shadow
#

I tried talking about it in build pics and nothing lol keeper getting deleted lol

#

I have the rx480 gpu in there now but newegg said my gtx1660 super should arrive tomorrow

sacred obsidian
#

it depends on budget vs needs

viral ore
#

Yeah, just not sure if traveling would be an issue

sacred obsidian
#

you can probably make a better 200$ pc than a 200$ laptop spec wise

viral ore
#

Or if it would be necessary

#

Yeah def

#

Did he give a budget?

sacred obsidian
#

if travel is a need then wed have to go laptop

#

but no

#

not yet at least

viral ore
#

Yeah ig

#

I would think like the 3000g would be good enough to run basic software

sacred obsidian
#

well yeah

#

naed suggested 3400g

viral ore
#

That's 4c/8t

#

Right?

#

Yeah, that would be fine too, ig just depends on budget

#

sooo...

#

What's a nucleus7?

sacred obsidian
#

google it lol

viral ore
#

Oof, so much effort lol

sacred obsidian
#

its a hearing device xD

viral ore
#

O I c

#

Do it gaem?

#

Lol

sacred obsidian
#

does streaming game sound count?

#

cause it can stream crysis sound

viral ore
#

brooooooo

#

Epic

sacred obsidian
#

I don’t actually have it yet. I get it next week. I do have the rie 62 lol

marsh adder
#

(context in previous conversation)

viral ore
#

Then it supports the 9600k

#

Just looked at msi's website, it supports 9th gen

cursive wharf
#

It supports it, the question is supporting it out of the box

#

like AMD b350 supporting R5 3600

#

afaik no b350 supports said CPU out of the box

marsh adder
#

So it does need a BIOS update.

#

?

cursive wharf
#

most likely

marsh adder
#

Ah.

clever shadow
#

how do i check my temps of my comp?

coarse coral
#

hwinfo64 does a pretty decent job

clever shadow
#

is that something i have to download?

viral ore
#

Yeah, it's a standalone program tho

#

Pretty light, really useful

clever shadow
#

nice i just found a program that jayztwocents uses also so will check them out

clever shadow
#

is cinebench pts 3706 good?

regal forge
#

What’s the best pre built company?

#

I was looking at cyber power and it seems pretty good was wanting to see if anyone else had an opinion

polar holly
#

I always recommend building your own

regal forge
#

Yeah I know

#

I’ve heard it so much lol

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I understand pre building is cheaper and better and what not I just don’t have any expirene and want to go the pre built way

eager chasm
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Prebuilt is the opposite of building it yourself

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But if you are gonna you will wanna do it before the problems in China jack up prices cause of all the factory down time can cause a supply problem

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Or wait until after the market stabelizes

regal forge
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I’m confused on what you mean by China jacking up the prices? @eager chasm can you explain lol

cursive wharf
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Already seen news about corona virus affecting iPhone productions, wouldnt be surprising to see that spread more

regal forge
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O okay, I didn’t realize we was talking about the virus. Wow, well thanks for letting me know that

eager chasm
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Some MB plants are also affected currently

steep elbow
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Does it matter if the hose for my AIO is at the front of the PC or the rear

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On a top mounted aio

foggy hazel
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no

eager chasm
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It depends which part you want to have the better cooling, CPU or GPU. If you mount in front the CPU gets fresh air but the GPU is then fed the already warm air. If you mount on top the GPU gets fresh air and the CPU RAD gets fed warm air unless you use a blower style card. But really it doesn't matter that much it's only like a few degrees difference on either part in either config.

foggy hazel
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@eager chasm i think you might have misread. he seems to be talking about having the hose in/out at either the front or the back. on a top mounted AIO

regal forge
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Is cyber power pc a good pre built company?

foggy hazel
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its a company that does pre-builts

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the quality you get (in general) depends on what you pay for. (in the context of pc-building companies)

regal forge
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So you are saying that what I pick will determine the quality

foggy hazel
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the budget build will very rarely get the same attention as the top of the line one. [Edit: build]

regal forge
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I’m planning on spending like 1800$

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I have the parts picked from there pc builder thing

foggy hazel
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@regal forge i dont really have the time to dig into this conversation right this second, can it wait 2-3 hours?

regal forge
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Absolutely @foggy hazel just msg when your available

foggy hazel
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will do @regal forge :)

subtle halo
viral ore
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OwO cute case

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Airflow tho?

subtle halo
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looks like mini fridge ... so it must be cold xD

upper condor
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Facts

eager chasm
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@foggy hazel ah yes I did missread lol

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my bad

viral ore
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How about this one? It's similar to the second case you linked

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The first case looks like it has terrible airflow from the pictures.

little osprey
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looking for a case that alot more expansion that why was looking a view 91 and after looking at stuff forgot first one

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lian li one seem to lack drive bays idk

viral ore
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Oh, ok

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The view 91 is totally fine, but it's super huge and overkill.

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Its a big case

little osprey
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if i go view 91 was maybe planning 3 480 rads to make up space

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dose lian li make a bigger dymatic?

foggy hazel
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@eager chasm i read it your way the first time around, so i know the feeling :)

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@regal forge you alive?

regal forge
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Yes lol @foggy hazel

foggy hazel
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okay, you want to have the conversation here or in a pm?