ok i send a better list
#building-and-recc-chat
little osprey
jolly scaffold
Thx
jolly scaffold
Nah my old is a dell optiplex 790 with after market parts
little osprey
@jolly scaffold https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qL2PK4
its like 30 bucks over but if need me try to get at 1500 exact i can
jolly scaffold
Nah that’s fine
jolly scaffold
I gotta Pat for my Costa Rica trip and then all my pay checks are being put towards a pc
little osprey
@upper condor alot ram is over priced
upper condor
Get g.skill 3600
little osprey
its 3 gen ryzen really needs fast speeds
upper condor
For 78
still roostBOT
Vamps#0001 has been warned
upper condor
No rgb but much cheaper
little osprey
g.skill kit has bad timings
little osprey
let me re check quick
@jolly scaffold do you want RGB or don't care
if not i can make bit cheaper
wind leaf
what case should i get ? does it matter?
jolly scaffold
I don’t care the ram does seem kinda high
little osprey
ok
jolly scaffold
@little osprey
upper condor
Yeah
wind leaf
$75 for 16 gb
little osprey
any how @upper condor that g,skill kit is cl 16-19-19-19-39 which is pretty bad
stoic island
Wdym thats good
little osprey
yeah they raising prices again
stoic island
Dood
little osprey
i changed over for him https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4JMsmg
stoic island
16-18-18-18-38 is only slightly better than 16-19-19-19-39
It sometimes guarantees b die, but not always
jolly scaffold
Noice thanks @little osprey
little osprey
If not getting pci gen 4 its dumb to buy x570
little osprey
tomahawk max is perfect for ocing
manual ocing is dead on 3 gen chips anyway
if running ryzen 3000 series chip its better to just let PBO do its thing
wind leaf
pc part picker isn’t working for me. can someone look this up?
r5 3600
1660ti
b450 tomahawk
16 gb RAM
Budget: $700-800
upper condor
Ok
little osprey
i got you
foggy hazel
@upper condor the vrm part is very overrated
upper condor
foggy hazel
the mainboards that have "bad" vrm still work just fine
wind leaf
yeah pls take care of that
little osprey
he's missing a psu and case btw
wind leaf
case and psu
upper condor
Oh ok
little osprey
plus storage
little osprey
@upper condor you pretty fast lmao
upper condor
Ik
little osprey
you should check out my build pic if interested
upper condor
Cant get much cheaper than that though
little osprey
D:
wind leaf
thank you @upper condor
upper condor
Yep
little osprey
i am waiting for better AMD high end gpu
little osprey
5700xt is place holder and has more compute power than nvidia cards at moment
little osprey
yup D:
wind leaf
would i need an optic drive ?
wind leaf
how would i install windows then
tranquil dust
usb
wind leaf
oh okay
little osprey
my hope is when AMD finally brings big navi it has HBM2E or HBM3
wind leaf
what’s the new gpu that they’re releasing?
little osprey
@wind leaf its in price range you would not be able to afford no offense
dry tinsel
it won't be because it won't be based on vega 20
upper condor
I doubt it costs that much to manufacture those
little osprey
we should proby take this talk in #graphics-cards side
dry tinsel
Navi is like the 5500XT/5600XT/5700/5700XT , Big Navi might have some new number
sacred obsidian
oh vamps came back in lol wb vamps
wind leaf
now i just need to save $200
dry tinsel
it may be a 6700
little osprey
Big navi is proby more RNDA 2 than what current navi is have different numbering scheme
dry tinsel
yes, you said what i said
little osprey
i just wonder when big navi will come out hopefully at GDC
dry tinsel
if it's RDNA2 we can expect some gains and some ray tracing
wind leaf
how long on average would it take to set up my pc?
dry tinsel
if it's your first time building a PC
tranquil dust
few hours at most
upper condor
2 for cable managment
dry tinsel
it will take like 4 hours
wind leaf
i have so many questions lol
dry tinsel
cable management is something i just learned and i've been building PCs forever
wind leaf
like i really just started looking into pc parts yesterday
like what’s a wifi chip or wifi card
i’ve seen it mentioned a few times
tranquil dust
allows you to use wireless
wind leaf
is it expensive
tranquil dust
because not all motherboards have wifi
upper condor
Depends
tranquil dust
depends
dry tinsel
no, they're not expensive usually
wind leaf
does a b450 tomahawk have one
dry tinsel
ideally you want to have a motherboard with built in wifi
tranquil dust
no
dry tinsel
no it doesn't
shut rampart
Can someone help me?
dry tinsel
the motherboard will have wifi in the model name probably
wind leaf
so i’d have to buy a wifi card or just use an ethernet cord!
shut rampart
WiFi xD
wind leaf
?*
upper condor
@shut rampart whats the problem
tranquil dust
@wind leaf yes
shut rampart
Is it suppose to be loss like that
upper condor
Both should be up
sacred obsidian
no
tranquil dust
i dont think it should w i g g l e
shut rampart
The other one is solid
dry tinsel
it's not supposed to be loose
lyric thistle
wiggle
shut rampart
Yha
shut rampart
The WiFi
shut rampart
But what kind of floor?
lyric thistle
the floor kind 
nocturne brook
I like corsair but there are better options for price
upper condor
Yeah
little osprey
tbh i like corsair but as workstation user i don't want all that blingy stuff
upper condor
Definitely
little osprey
tbh if buying high end case i buy from inwin over corsair
upper condor
Yeah
nocturne brook
Yeah they do a good job with their cases but price tho
nocturne brook
Yes like what the hell
nocturne brook
Holy that's expensive for a case too?
little osprey
Not really compared to what variants offer
upper condor
Yeah
little osprey
plus i was buying this case to as workstation user not caring for bling just airflow and water cooling support
little osprey
not bad at all
hollow grove
k
upper condor
Yeah
Cool corsair rgb
Not the best ram but
I dont need a ton of storage though 1tb is enough
Just gaming on this
hollow grove
Lol
little osprey
yeah just do what you need and not go overkill
hollow grove
I have 3 tb of games
cursive wharf
Change mobo, ram, NVMe, case, and PSU
hollow grove
why
cursive wharf
MSI x570 sucks, can get 3600 cl16 for cheaper, case is overpriced so get a cheap case with a 5 pack of RGB fans for $35, p1 NVMe has no DRAM cache, RM isn't a suitable 750w option tbh
little osprey
Damn hei coming in hot
little osprey
good suggestions tho
cursive wharf
Can get x570 yes, but MSI done goof on x570
hollow grove
I went ASUS
little osprey
yeah
little osprey
still 2080s
cursive wharf
Yeah
little osprey
if plans on getting better monitor it would add up
cursive wharf
$1050 usually for a not so bad 2080Ti
upper condor
Ok lemme redo my budget
upper condor
My budget is 2k
upper condor
Oh yeah totally
little osprey
LMAO
upper condor
No monitor either
upper condor
How about i just get titan v?
hollow grove
Yes
upper condor
Nothing wlse
hollow grove
Titan rtx
upper condor
I can just spin the fans
desert thistle
Yo im building my first pc and im wondering if its worth to get an m.2...mainly for gaming and school woek
upper condor
Iv current part list?
desert thistle
Lol
desert thistle
Gaming aswell lol
desert thistle
Already have the rest of the parts just need storage
hollow grove
What’s your cash money budget
desert thistle
Lol pre-built pfff noob
desert thistle
Whole build €800
upper condor
900 dollar
hollow grove
America money
cursive wharf
Sad, prices rose. 2080Ti won't be got if you need a monitor
hollow grove
How much nvme
desert thistle
Like $130 i think
cursive wharf
So far for a 2k build. Get upHere RGB fans for cheap
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6xVVDx
desert thistle
A little slow today lol
desert thistle
I was thinking of getting the sabrent m.2 bcus its best price-performance
cursive wharf
It was, NVMe prices went way up
hollow grove
Or you could be a gamer and just get a hard drive ecks dee
upper condor
Idk biut that cooler
hollow grove
I’d get an ssd
upper condor
im gonna get a u12s
hollow grove
Like a regular ssd
cursive wharf
Waste of money
hollow grove
But that’s up to u
cursive wharf
Don't go by brand, go by perf
upper condor
Yeah
sacred obsidian
perf?
upper condor
and noctua is good
hollow grove
Perfect
cursive wharf
And is overpriced
desert thistle
Perfect lol
hollow grove
And good
desert thistle
Does it matter what nvme..cus someone told they were faster no matter what
hollow grove
They are
cursive wharf
Yet overpriced. thermalright, scythe, etc have coolers that are basically the same noise normalized perf as Noctua for much cheaper
little osprey
Noctua is just regarded as best cooling company at least Normal Cooling if talking Loops its EK or Bitspower
desert thistle
Thx for the help @hollow grove
hollow grove
Np
jolly scaffold
@little osprey with that 1500$ pc you made on pcpartpicker for me could it run a vr
little osprey
@jolly scaffold yes
jolly scaffold
Alrighty
upper condor
@cursive wharf
hollow grove
That’s cash money
jolly scaffold
I was looking at that Corsair bundle earlier today it’s a nice deal
upper condor
Yeah
little osprey
looks solid since you upgrading monitor and such
sacred obsidian
if were still talking about ssds samsung nvme is over priced
little osprey
only thing Samsung drives that worth price are pro
but i am talking as workstation user evo stuff is over priced
upper condor
Then what should i get instead
little osprey
@upper condor if going spend 2k on build why b450?
little osprey
he revising it again @cursive wharf
hollow grove
I’m diggin it
little osprey
@upper condor bit better maybe add some extra storage?
hollow grove
I mean hey dude with the money saved that’s a lot of games you could get too
hollow grove
That seems like a lot
hollow grove
I never understood why people would get all games on nvme it seems like a waste of money to me
All of your games on a hard drive and windows on nvme
upper condor
hollow grove
Ez dub
little osprey
Gamer don't always understand pc related stuff just think faster is better
desert thistle
Rip everything costs like 15% more where i live(pc parts)
hollow grove
Yeah
desert thistle
Prob more lol
desert thistle
Why would u get a samsung nvme rip u gonna be paying royalty for that
hollow grove
Fr
little osprey
like i said before only thing thats worth a damn is pro series thats only for workstation users
upper condor
upper condor
Yes
hollow grove
I’m a big dummy
upper condor
ik
hollow grove
I like that
sacred obsidian
friends
sacred obsidian
btw wanna be friends
upper condor
3900X lol
hollow grove
I have 3 and they fr suck a lot
sacred obsidian
lol
ive been wanting to jump in but its been going so long i didnt wanna read all that back log lol
little osprey
dint miss much
sullen spoke
O someone got kicked?
sacred obsidian
yeh
sullen spoke
Darn I missed the action
sacred obsidian
i mean i understand it and i have to stop myself a loooooooot lol
upper condor
He said poop
little osprey
yeah now going be more careful its a little annoying
sacred obsidian
well i learned some things cause i started talking about your kick in the nitro chat
apparently its more linient over time
little osprey
ooo
upper condor
Not rlly
sacred obsidian
so liek if you swear 3 times you get kicked or somethin right
little osprey
btw i have my boost back tmr so i my status back
upper condor
yes 3
sacred obsidian
but if you swear 3 times over 3 years it doesnt kick
however if you get kicked and come back in and oopsie to soon again its a perma ban
little osprey
i think mine was like 4 or 5 idk
little osprey
tbh just going keep my filter on to be safe
sacred obsidian
like so if you swore a year ago, while that infraction is still there, its not goign to be used against you
well yeah thats what you're supposed to do xD
little osprey
i mean it was not bad proby just not kid friendly
which i am guessing restriction is targeted for kids
upper condor
Exactly
little osprey
yeah i get that too
btw i have some other techy servers to go too if need let loose on bad hardware
little osprey
ahh cute D:
sullen spoke
👏
sacred obsidian
oof i have my ms2 guild server which is dead now cause i stopped playing, and then my podcast server which i just did a soft release of xD
little osprey
Nice
upper condor
I have 1 server with like 10 people and we gamer rage all the time lol
sacred obsidian
thats always fun lol
sacred obsidian
looks good
upper condor
I hope
sacred obsidian
i mean i can tell you its going to be a powerhouse lol
upper condor
Definitely
wind leaf
@upper condor when u searched this up for me: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cJyhK4
There’s no cooling in the list. I assume it doesn’t need cooling?
charred flint
https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/9d2PK4 do i need a exhaust fan
tranquil dust
@wind leaf the 3600 comes with a cooler
upper condor
Yeah
charred flint
no ssd>?
wind leaf
oh ok thanks
foggy hazel
you are very much missing a ssd
tranquil dust
^^
wind leaf
ssd?
tranquil dust
solid state drive
foggy hazel
solidstate drive
tranquil dust
its faster than a harddrive when loading things
sacred obsidian
nike
wind leaf
yes
sacred obsidian
you said max budget was 800 earlier but with monitor and peripherals right?
wind leaf
excluding monitor and peripherals
tranquil dust
i thought he said he had those?
sacred obsidian
okay.
wind leaf
the monitor and peripherals are handled. i don’t have them atm. but they are not apart of this budget
sacred obsidian
well keep in mind a cheap monitor is going to be another 100 and a good cheap one is going to be at least 200
wind leaf
though i’m open to suggestions on what peripherals to get. Someone already suggested a monitor from newegg that i was looking for. 144hz 1 ms response time and under $200
sacred obsidian
thats good
im currently using a logitech g502e and like 30$ hyperx keyboard, both from best buy which work really well
sacred obsidian
other than that on your build, i would knock that 3600 down to a 2600 and use the extra money to buy a 2.5in ssd
wind leaf
but this was a while back
sacred obsidian
the g502e is 20 bucks
you can get cheap mice but they are usually cheap quality lol
wind leaf
the r5 2600 and the 3600.. whats the difference?
sacred obsidian
the 3600 is newer and slightly better
like 15% faster
but thats the only place i can see to knock something down without losing a lot of gaming performance and get an ssd on top without going over budget
foggy hazel
@wind leaf the reason i have mentioned the SSD a couple of times now is that it is the single biggest upgrade to 99.999% of machines
wind leaf
so a 2600 is still good for streaming
sacred obsidian
yes
wind leaf
@foggy hazel really? Wow.
foggy hazel
yes really.
little osprey
he getting 1660ti so that be really good for streaming
foggy hazel
it really cannot be stated enough.
sacred obsidian
i was a ssd shunner
then i broke and finally got on
and holy heck was i wrong
pc boot time is 10-15 secs to desktop
wind leaf
what is nvec
foggy hazel
nvenc*
little osprey
it's NVidia built in encoder for streaming
sacred obsidian
that
basically makes it easier and better to stream games
before that i blieve it was all on cpu
foggy hazel
okay, i know the following is going to ruffle some feathers
wind leaf
what is the ghz
little osprey
only times nvenc become dumb is when talking ryzen 9 series and above
foggy hazel
however, that mainboard in nike's machine is way too expensive for what it is
little osprey
he did for himself
sacred obsidian
feathers rustled
wind leaf
like i’m looking right now and I see that 4ghz is the best now
wind leaf
core clock
foggy hazel
i know that it is "the" darling of reddit and all that jazz
little osprey
LOL
foggy hazel
but holy heck.
little osprey
@foggy hazel you might be better off making him pcpartpicker list
sacred obsidian
i just dont like msi boards
foggy hazel
it has hecking bad audio, no wifi, no nothing. aside from the supposedly "Superduperfantastic with a bow on it" vrm
little osprey
tbh only MSI boards worth a damn is their 330 and flagship boards
wind leaf
I’m so sorry i have so many questions
little osprey
its fine nike
wind leaf
and it’s easier to ask you guys instead of researching and not getting direct answers
foggy hazel
@wind leaf nothing to be sorry about, there are no stupid questions, only silly answers
wind leaf
like what does overclocking mean and do
foggy hazel
takes X part and, by the use of extra power, raises the performance.
that is what it means, and what it does
little osprey
overclocking kinda been dead for while now
sacred obsidian
you can oc a 2600 to 4+ghz but you would need a better cooler than stock
i wouldn't worry about it
wind leaf
yeah because i see that an r5 3600 has a 3.6 GHz core clock but the 2600 has a 3.4 GHz core clock
foggy hazel
Nike / do you need/have-a-use-for wifi btw?
wind leaf
i’m just trying to weigh the differences
sacred obsidian
negligable lol
wind leaf
@foggy hazel ??
foggy hazel
do you use wifi or are you connected by wire?
sacred obsidian
a 2600 will so pretty much everything you need as stock
wind leaf
well i use both at times. the pc i’m using now is connected through ethernet
sacred obsidian
a 3600 as well but also more expensive. just a newer generation
foggy hazel
okay, a couple of questions for you, sorry in advance if they have been asked earlier.
the machine you are building, will you ever use wifi on that? (if it has wifi that is)
wind leaf
yeah i’d probably use wifi on it
foggy hazel
ok
your use case for the new machine is streaming right?
and playing fortnite mainly?
wind leaf
ok so i reviewed the conversation i had with a friend who knows a lot about this stuff and he told me literally the exact same thing that you guys are telling me but it was so long ago that i forgot. So i’ll go with r5 2600. he told me that the 3600 is the same but just newer and faster clock speeds.
yes
just for gaming and potentially streaming
foggy hazel
@upper condor it does.
wind leaf
7nm?
foggy hazel
@wind leaf okay, give me a couple of minutes
upper condor
And the 2nd gen uses 14 right?
foggy hazel
i will bash up a pcpartpicker list for you
wind leaf
thanks
foggy hazel
@upper condor 12nm
wind leaf
and so what does the clock speed affect?
i share a pc with my uncle and cousins atm. It’s an i7-8700k but it has integrated graphics 😭. It has 16gb of ram and everything
wind leaf
no i’m not buying that
little osprey
o
wind leaf
it’s too expensive
upper condor
We’re saying just use that but with a good gpu
wind leaf
when the r5 2600 has faster clock speed
ohh sorry 😅
Yeah i’ve been told it’s a good cpu
foggy hazel
@wind leaf you got the ability to join a voice chat?
i am asking because a bunch of these questions could be answered fairly quickly in voice
foggy hazel
whichever one you join
little osprey
WOW
foggy hazel
little osprey
what are they designing lol
upper condor
A pc
foggy hazel
budget board
upper condor
teal bison
are you asking for opinions @upper condor
teal bison
ahh ok
sacred obsidian
oof i cant understand naed at all
little osprey
LOL
sacred obsidian
i just jumped in
no its the accent i have a big issue with even slight accents due to deafness
but that may change soon lol
thanks
sorry i got a lot of background noise here so im typing instead xD
yep
mossy citrus
help
foggy hazel
@mossy citrus intel makes some
sacred obsidian
vamp why dont you use push to talk instead of muting yourself every time
cursive wharf
@upper condor not much of that is a good choice to recommend. CPU cooler is overpriced, SSD sucks, case has bad airflow, PSU isn't that great
foggy hazel
@cursive wharf solid/cheap-ish budget psu, 450 watt. Suggestions?
mossy citrus
idk what to get 0_0
cursive wharf
Corsair CX? Is lacking in PCIe connectors tho
sacred obsidian
ima go eat and set up in the shack ill be back on in a bit
cursive wharf
Think it has only one 6+2
foggy hazel
hm
upper condor
cursive wharf
Also something else I just noticed, why 2600 and not 1600AF?
upper condor
Idk just doing it for nike
mossy citrus
helpp
teal bison
what do you need help with @mossy citrus
mossy citrus
i need to find a m.2 wificard
cursive wharf
Like M2 e slot or whatever it's called?
mossy citrus
yea
cursive wharf
Don't really know anything sadly
mossy citrus
oof
i think bekora or demonmit helped before
@muted patio @austere condor ca n u guys help me find a m.2 wifi card pls?
@latent bronze
hollow grove
M.2 WiFi card?
cursive wharf
@hollow grove like this (idk if it's good)
https://www.amazon.ca/Dualband-Wireless-Bluetooth-Notebook-Advertising/dp/B07PFCR6T6/ref=asc_df_B07PFCR6T6/?tag=googlemobshop-20
dusty ocean
Hey, Im looking for a good graphics card but i dont actually dont know too much about them. My pc has a Geforce GTX 660 rn and i dont know what i should look for
teal bison
what budget?
sudden turret
more like what is your psu, and other pc components 😛
teal bison
ya that might be a little important lol
serene current
Just ordered some new toys
AMD Ryzen 5 3600
MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32 GB
tranquil dust
nice
bronze vortex
Guys I’m building a budget pc and I’m wondering if I should buy a ryzen 5 3600 or 3600x
proud helm
OMG I FOUND THE FUNNIEST HOW TO BUILD A PC VIDEO😂😂😂
wait nvm it shows the thumbnail of the vud
i was bout to rick roll all of yall
tranquil dust
hello
lyric thistle
tranquil dust
i see
daring hare
hello there
little osprey
i was wondering if anybody can help me with making a pc build
teal bison
sure bud
little osprey
my budget is $1,650
little osprey
not sure
teal bison
oh and what are you using it for?
little osprey
i plan it to use it for like a couple things tbh
watching stuff on it , play fighting games and work and streaming
teal bison
any specific color in mind?
little osprey
any color is cool
subtle halo
pink
subtle halo
subtle portal
@coarse coral welcome to the o11 master race
little osprey
rip
cursive wharf
@teal bison Why those SSDs tho? Get the nice ones, not the cheap ones
little osprey
@teal bison cool
teal bison
isnt sabrent a good brand?
cursive wharf
Also why extra case fans?
Sabrent Rocket non Q
teal bison
comparing specs they were a lot better than similarly priced nvmes
cursive wharf
case airflow sucks yes, but it works best in negative pressure
teal bison
ya i wasnt sure on the case
cursive wharf
As for SSD I'd get this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GJkgXL/pioneer-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-aps-se20g-1t
Less fancy looking on advertising, but same quality on everything but having better NAND
vestal cove
What’s a good case that’s not NZXT
teal bison
i think the focus g is good right?
@cursive wharf correct me if im wrong i dont know much about cases
cursive wharf
focus G is alright, a bit sucky compared to competition as it doesnt have tempered glass when other not so known brands do for the same price
teal bison
what do you recommend around that price? what about the p300?
bronze vortex
I’d say Corsair carbide 275r. It’s clean 70 bucks and it’s a mid tower
cursive wharf
iirc that is pretty closed off tho
bronze vortex
It has a tempered glass
cursive wharf
This + an extra $7 case fan
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zhjJ7P/cougar-mx330-g-atx-mid-tower-case-mx330-g
Also I meant airflow wise
teal bison
is there a big difference between a hyper 212 evo and the stock 3600 cooler? is it worth the 35?
like i know the stock coolers arent great but for just 35 is the evo a good deal or not much of an upgrade?
cursive wharf
Well, 212 is overpriced anyways. A simple $20 cooler is better then the 212
Gammaxx 400
teal bison
ok, and that is worth getting?
vestal cove
Should i get a 1tb NVME m.2 for $100 or a 500gb sata m.2 for $65
cursive wharf
Well, just never get a M2 SATA as it get hard to upgrade and reuse. Also I doubt that NVMe has DRAM cache so it's semi sucky most likely
vestal cove
So the 1tb
cursive wharf
Well, which model?
Cuz a good 1tb 2.5" SATA is $81
While I cant find a decent NVMe for less then $125
vestal cove
Crucial p1
cursive wharf
That lacks DRAM cache, so it can "die" hard in some scenarios
vestal cove
Any good m.2 then?
sullen spoke
Doesn't Pioneer do a lot of audio equipment
teal bison
what do you think about the TCSunBow X3 SSDs. Ive heard good and bad
subtle halo
its fine for budget . but not that good but its decent..
teal bison
what about WD Blue?
cursive wharf
x3 is pretty good, not lacking in DRAM cache and has a decent controller. Generally speaking you're not going to need more then what an X3 provides. Tho a WD Blue 3D NAND, Crucial MX500, and a couple others are better and if found for the same price then are worth it. If not for the same price, kinda just throwing money to get perf you wont notice
proud helm
can someone explain to me what hevc/avc encoding recording stuff i could never understand it i see it in obs and radeon settings
ping me plz
sullen spoke
H.264 best most of the time
rare ice
which one is better? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jtmhk6
coarse coral
@rare ice g pro wireless
rare ice
some people in pcmr said razer viper ultimate is better?
coarse coral
pcmr is full of doodoo
coarse coral
I use a g pro wireless
the only real downside is the side buttons are kinda high on it
but doesnt matter much when you get used to it ingame
woven horizon
150 FOR A MOUSE WOW!
prime spear
yes but very quality
rare ice
I have small hands so ig it's fine
would you rather have 1080p 240hz or 1440p 144hz?
would these all be worth buying in your opinion? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mspL4n
lime forge
tranquil dust
lmao
subtle halo
150$ mouse pro gamer mouse
rare ice
is that list good though?
rare ice
is this better combo than 4k60hz + 1080p 240hz?
subtle halo
it doesnt make any sense for me 150$ for a mouse
rare ice
The monitor has no usb hub
but are the monitors a better combo than 4k60hz + 1080p 240hz?
don't worry about the mouse
I'm more concerned about the monitors
subtle halo
its fine
rare ice
ok
subtle halo
unless you really like 4k
rare ice
well I have a 2070s and a r7 3700x so it probs wont get 4k60fps ultra in newer games
but I can play them at 1440p at above 60fps
subtle halo
nc
rare ice
but do you think this is the better option over 1080p 240hz?
subtle halo
4k doesnt reall make sense for me.. in gaming.. i like atleast wqhd
i need to focus in game
subtle halo
thats fine aslong you still get your frames
target frames
240hz lot of room for freesync range .. so you dont have to worry about soome games had bugs when the fps is out of freesync range
nvidia can drive freesync now
rare ice
I'll buy the 1440p 144hz first and decide what I want for a second?
I'll also decide if I need a wireless mouse
rare ice
it won't bc I'll know?
rare ice
the ones with batteries?
subtle halo
yes
rare ice
wireless?
subtle halo
i see no battery but thats because of mousepad stuff like The Razer Mamba HyperFlux
subtle halo
that mouse is recharable?
rare ice
yes
rare ice
yeah
subtle halo
i want the 2nd screen same as the first screen xD
my eyes gets dizzy if other seems slow in my eyes
rare ice
costs more money and I don't see a point in a second 1440p 144hz
tranquil dust
that’s one way to do that lol
rare ice
would the 1440p 144hz also be good for competitive shooters though?
as well as single player games?
cursive wharf
144Hz is good for competitive shooters
cursive wharf
yeah
magic rune
Im looking at buying a GPU and curious what one should i get... this is my first time building a PC
Here is the build I am currently trying to do (excluding a GPU), the tower and the CPU Cooler have already been gifted to me
GeForce GTX 1660 TI
GeForce GTX 2060
Radeon RX 5600 XT
Radeon RX 5700
Max Price for GPU is 360$
Im essentially looking for a GPU that is the best bang for my buck, Thank you all!
magic rune
how do i go about choosing which (insert gpu here) though cause theres plenty from different manufacturers?
viral ore
this one is on sale
viral ore
so you already have the cpu
magic rune
I actually probably wont get the gpu until around mid-late february but thanks for the input
i only have the tower and Fan Cooler right now
magic rune
Its a process
magic rune
how come?
magic rune
ehh i want it to have upgradability
subtle halo
a320 xD
magic rune
and i like the way it looks
magic rune
i see only a 20$ difference
viral ore
vs a 70 dollar b450
viral ore
there are more b450 boards than just 1
magic rune
thats fair sorry lol
viral ore
lmao, its fine
magic rune
what would be my advantages in getting the x470
magic rune
ill look into the B450 though i just liked the way asus presented the 470 on their site seemed pretty nice to me lol
subtle halo
depends on which b450 you buy
viral ore
ive used this phenominal board 3 times now
its not only the cheapest
but it just
works
on a budget
just no overclocking
lmao
magic rune
im trying to oc
cursive wharf
@magic rune get the 1600AF, change CPU cooler cuz 212 is overpriced, change RAM cuz it's overpriced, same with SSD, and same with PSU
viral ore
he already has the cpu cooler
its free
also, im working on it
no need to bombard him
start with one component
work your way down
magic rune
we will say about 850-1K
cursive wharf
I mostly just give, short and concise info on what to change. Not in a rude way (or at least try)
viral ore
and thats totally fine, but then people continue to ask questions like, what psu?
what motherboard
whats a 1600AF, i dont see it anywhere
cursive wharf
I give all info of what to change at first, then work down the line
viral ore
so, do you wanna overclock for the fun of it, or are you trying to get performance?
magic rune
performance
viral ore
getting better parts to run at stock speeds is faster at your budget than overpaying for overclocking components
magic rune
im kinda set on getting a ryzen 2600 or x chip
magic rune
mayyyybeee we can see after
viral ore
also, i assume your primarily gaming?
magic rune
cause essentially some of the lower cost items will most likely end up being gifts to me cause birthday coming up
yessir
viral ore
so the ram you chose is actually perfect, because its a good price for the specs
sacred obsidian
i just wanna say i agree on the OC. its a fun project but on the 2600 or 3600 its not really neccesary at that point cause it wont bottleneck at 2070, only reason you need more power is if you go 2080+ rn.
magic rune
thank you @sacred obsidian for the input:)
sacred obsidian
well 1 i doubt hes doing that, and 2, depends on the game. csgo prob will not have an issue 😛
idk what hes planning to play tho lol
magic rune
ehh things like OW, Destiny 2, Diablo 3, maybe warframe like im just getting into pc gaming cause i need something not console
ive had my fair share of that
cursive wharf
wont matter for this build, but there still are lows to consider on a 240Hz
magic rune
age2DE
viral ore
@cursive wharf need input on CXM 2015 450W
magic rune
and im not super picky about like running ultra settings vs high xD
cursive wharf
CXM has issues with coil whine
viral ore
@magic rune does noise bother you?
subtle halo
i dissable shadows sometimes xD if i play fps
viral ore
like, a little noise
subtle halo
because shadow added blind spot
magic rune
not too much
viral ore
epic
sacred obsidian
also hei oc still wont matter unless you also oc the gpu, and even then a 1660 oc'd prob still wont hit 240hz lol
cursive wharf
I mean a low hum is much different then a high pitch squeel
magic rune
this is true lol
cursive wharf
So I generally advised against CXM
subtle halo
when you want to push more fps but your gpu keeps whining ...
cursive wharf
but not really bad
magic rune
haha
sacred obsidian
or maybe you've just interacted with me to much and it spread
subtle halo
i dont understand him
viral ore
cursive wharf
idk, doesnt seem like a good quality camera/mic tbh
viral ore
o lol
subtle halo
i hear the hum
magic rune
but i do want a 500gb for my OS and other stuff
cursive wharf
480GB SATA SSD vs 256GB NVMe, about same price
I'd personally go SATA tbh
subtle halo
and like static charge
magic rune
id rather have an nvme
subtle halo
1:12
cursive wharf
and lose half the boot drive storage?
magic rune
do explain lol
viral ore
$65 for 512gb nvme
cursive wharf
Well it's 256GB vs 480GB. The smaller drive is faster. however only under heavy workloads you'll notice it
which NVMe?
viral ore
WD blue SN550
cursive wharf
lacks DRAM cache, so can be a bit weird on perf
magic rune
and how well are these brands compared to name brands? assuming these are things you have used in the past and its been well for you
cursive wharf
tbh name brands are kinda a scam. Just look at proper reviews and specs, then at some reviews for perf, then at longterm reviews for life expectancy
cursive wharf
Like an example. Two of the cheapest half tb drives here. With name brand you'd expect Kingston to be better. But it's actually one of the worst SSDs on the market and the other one is a pretty decent SSD
cursive wharf
lacks DRAM but has HMB, so perf isnt horrible
subtle halo
x3 nuzzles, pounces on you, uwu you so warm
lyric thistle
UwO
cursive wharf
If you really want to, cheapest DRAM NVMe is $70
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L6DKM8V?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
but A60 is good enough tbh