#building-and-recc-chat

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formal plover
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I5*

austere condor
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ive got three of those ready to go 😄

formal plover
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And it's 60 bucks

austere condor
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different GPU's in each though

formal plover
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From ebay

austere condor
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i have a 480 8GB, that 580 4GB, and a 1060 3GB coming in to fill out those three systems

pearl marsh
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Optiplex 790 is an SFF machine.

little osprey
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U build pcs for a living @austere condor

formal plover
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@pearl marsh I know

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It's tiny

pearl marsh
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Could be good to go, but would need a low profile GPU

formal plover
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Hard to work in

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@pearl marshok

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And a new psu

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And more ram

pearl marsh
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It seems to have standard power connections so replacing the PSU doesn't seem like a huge issue there, I believe it would be a Flex-ATX or SFX, or even maybe TFX one..

formal plover
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Ok

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But how much would all the upgrades cost?

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Like 200?

pearl marsh
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Hm, looks like a TFX

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Depends on which GPU you choose. Options are limited though. You pretty much only have a choice to look for a used 1050Ti in low profile version, or get a low profile 1650.

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PSU might be fine though. If it's like, 300 watts, you wouldn't really need to replace it. Unless it would seem too old beaten up and such.

formal plover
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Ok

pearl marsh
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Either 1650 or 1050Ti in LP versions won't pull more than 75 watts anyway - that's a limit for a PCIe slot.

formal plover
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Even without upgrades, is it still more powerful than my h420?

pearl marsh
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Yes

formal plover
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Nice

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It only has 4gb ram

pearl marsh
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2nd gen i5 is way better than a Pentium

formal plover
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Yeah

pearl marsh
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You'd need at least 8 GB to be comfortable

formal plover
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Pentium is 2 core 2.6ghx

pearl marsh
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If the 790 supports 16 - go for it if you can

formal plover
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Ghz*

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Ok, I think it has 4 ram slots

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But I'm not too sure

pearl marsh
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Yeah, need to check the specs

formal plover
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It probably takes ddr3

pearl marsh
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It does

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Also the dell.com says it supports up to 16 gigs.

formal plover
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Ok

pearl marsh
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So you'd need 4 modules by 4 gigs each.

formal plover
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Yeah, if I want to have 16 gigs

pearl marsh
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Or 2 by 4, if you need only 8, yes.

formal plover
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But is have to get 2x4 and some of those 2x4 ram sticks don't support 4x4

pearl marsh
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Nowadays those are pretty rare

formal plover
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Oh

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Ok

pearl marsh
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Also if it already has 4 GB, you can just slap in 2 by 4 in the free slots and have 12

formal plover
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The only problem is

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It probably has to be matching

pearl marsh
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Technically not, you only need to have them be rated for same clocks and timings to be sure.

formal plover
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Hmm

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Ok

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If you say so

pearl marsh
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I've been running a configuration with 4 sticks, 2 of which were 2 gigs each, just standard RAM sticks for PCs, and other 2 sticks were actually the laptop ones, 4 gigs each, put into the desktop motherboard with adapters. And it worked - I had 12 gigs of RAM.

formal plover
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Oh, ok

pearl marsh
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Sooo... RAM is not that hard usually

formal plover
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Ok

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...now I need to see if it has already sold

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Probably did

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Brn

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Brb

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Found one for 55 with 10 shipping and it comes with keyboard and mouse, but it has no Hard drive

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At first I thought it didn't matter

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But now that I think of it, I'd have to buy windows

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For like 140 bucks

stoic island
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What

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5$windows key

formal plover
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How about this?

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Window keys are scary

pearl marsh
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How about free Windows with help of AutoKMS? 😄

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As for $5 keys - they work, I've tried

formal plover
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I'll do unactivated windows, but I will never use one of those sketchy keys

pearl marsh
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They're not sketchy, they're just unofficially sold by system integrators

formal plover
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I know they work, but I don't want a surprise visit from the fbi lol

pearl marsh
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Nobody cares~

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One you linked above looks okay

formal plover
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Ok, what about that one I sent, is that a fair price? Also, it's 3.3 GHz rather than 3.1

pearl marsh
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Needs an SSD though

formal plover
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Ok

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I can find cheaper probably

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But this ones pretty powerful

pearl marsh
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The one you just sent is nice actually, you can just slap in a GPU and be good to go

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(if you can deal with the slowness of a HDD)

formal plover
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It's only 500gb anyway

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So I'll just get an ssd

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But, I can find cheaper!

pearl marsh
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Probably you can't, unless a seller is in rush or you can convince them to lower the price for you

formal plover
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What about this

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It has dgpu

pearl marsh
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That one has a slightly slower CPU than the previous and only 4 GB RAM

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CPU is not a big deal there

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But RAM is

formal plover
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Ok

pearl marsh
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And also that dGPU is old garbage

formal plover
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Ok

pearl marsh
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It most likely is something like Radeon 6430

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Or something alike

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6450, yeah, the seller has this listed

formal plover
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Found one for 28

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It has no hdd

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Or optical drive

pearl marsh
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It probably doesn't work 😄

formal plover
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It works, it was tested

pearl marsh
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Drop the link in anyway

formal plover
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Ok

pearl marsh
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Oh

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It has an i3

formal plover
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Oh wait

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I think it's dual core

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:/

pearl marsh
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4 threads

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But 2 cores

formal plover
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Oh

pearl marsh
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4 cores without additional threads are better still

formal plover
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Oh

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But this is 28 bucks

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3.3ghz

pearl marsh
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You'd probably end up spending more as you'd need to buy literally everything

formal plover
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Ok

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I'll keep looking

pearl marsh
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And also probably will want to swap that i3 out

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Since it won't hold up well with a 1650, and even with a 1050Ti

formal plover
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Found a good one for 46 bucks

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But it sold

austere condor
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what are you trying to put together here? @formal plover

formal plover
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Literally like 30 seconds ago

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It sold

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@austere condor potato gaming pc

austere condor
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whats your budget?

formal plover
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Not too sure actually

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Depends

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What optiplex I ge

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Get

pearl marsh
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Well, if you have like, $300

austere condor
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i wouldnt recommend a optiplex

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XD

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trust me

pearl marsh
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You can build one from new parts

formal plover
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@austere condor why nor

austere condor
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ive tried that

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not a good idea

formal plover
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What cpu did you have?

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@austere condor

austere condor
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ive done three optiplex builds

formal plover
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With...

austere condor
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two with i7 2600's and the other was uhh.... 3rd gen i5?

formal plover
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Oh

pearl marsh
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Well, Optiplexes are mostly office PCs

formal plover
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Well this will at least be better than my Pentium, right?

austere condor
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like, whats your max budget?

pearl marsh
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So @austere condor has a fair point there, they might not hold up too well

austere condor
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what do you plan on using the PC for?

formal plover
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Well, I'd like to run "the average game"

austere condor
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for as cheap as possible

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yeah?

formal plover
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As well as a flight simulator >fsx

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@austere condor yeah

pearl marsh
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If you go "potato gaming" you could just slap together a build from the store with a Ryzen APU for pretty cheap.

formal plover
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How about rhis

austere condor
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you can do a i5/RX 480/470 build for under $300

formal plover
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Let me send you a link of a pc I made

austere condor
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^

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im building three of those right now

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one with a RX 580, one with a RX 480, and one with a 1060

pearl marsh
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Those would be very fair machines actually

formal plover
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Are you gonna sell them?

austere condor
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yep

formal plover
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I'm trying to find my link

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How do you find saved pc's on mobile pcpartpicker

austere condor
formal plover
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Can't I just save money and use my h420 case?

austere condor
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yep

formal plover
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And windows

austere condor
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that will save you $40

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using a case

formal plover
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Also, the mobo

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I think

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Not sure what slot it has

austere condor
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oh

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nvm

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thats 4x2gb

formal plover
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I'd prefer 2x4

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Or possibly 2x8

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But I think 2x8 isn't necessary

austere condor
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there

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$18

formal plover
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Speed?

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Also, is it ddr3?

austere condor
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DDR3-1600

formal plover
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Hmm

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I wonder if my mobo supports that

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I know it takes ddr3

austere condor
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$88 RX 480

formal plover
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How many gigagigas?

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Oh wait

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I see

austere condor
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4gb model

formal plover
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Ok

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Speed?

austere condor
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its a RX 480?

formal plover
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Yeah, how many mhz or something like that?

austere condor
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doesnt matter

formal plover
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Ok

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So if also need a new psu, right?

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The j420 has a 280w psu

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H420*

austere condor
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$15 for a 1TB drive

formal plover
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Shouldn't i get a ssd?

austere condor
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yep

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$15 for a 120 GB

formal plover
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Nice

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Just for compatibility reasons, do you want to see the insides of my pc?

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@austere condor

austere condor
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just under $300

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for a full system

formal plover
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Incompatible

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It says

austere condor
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its fine

formal plover
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Let me show you my pc

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Cause I don't want to make a whole new pc

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There you go

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It has a 1tb hdd

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But it has space for another on

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@austere condor

austere condor
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only thing you can scavenge is that hard drive

formal plover
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What about the mobo

austere condor
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nope

formal plover
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Oh

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):

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Well, if I can only take the hdd that is literally full and the case, then it's probably not worth even taking this thing apart

austere condor
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exactly

formal plover
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This is where I get every time I ask

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At least you're using used parts

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Cause people tell me to make a "Budget pc" that costs like 700 bucks

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What if I get a used i3 with 4 threads 3.3ghz

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That would fit my mobo

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I think

austere condor
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nothing is reusable out of your current PC, other than that hard drive

formal plover
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And the fans

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And sata cables

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What if I get a used i3 with 4 threads 3.3ghz

austere condor
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not worth buying

formal plover
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Why not?

tight bluff
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@austere condor He's not got you too, has he?

formal plover
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@tight bluff Just stop, please

austere condor
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buying a 2nd gen i3 to put in your motherboard is not worth the time or effort

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or money

formal plover
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Ok

austere condor
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there is nothing salvageable other than your hard drive in your current PC if you're wanting to upgrade

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nothing else is worth the effort

formal plover
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I mean, it would be better than a 2 core 2.5ghz Pentium

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By any chance, do you know the name of this computer

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It's my brother's

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It's a cooler master

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It has blue and white fans

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It is quad core 3.5 ghz

stoic island
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Theres like no why we would know like seriously

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Coolermaster doesn't even make PCs. They make the case.

little osprey
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Hey, can someone give me a cool build that's 1000 dollars friendly and good for streaming, mostly play gmod, csgo and siege

stoic island
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Someone had a 1k build earlier

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I can compile one for you if you want

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@little osprey Wifi or no

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@little osprey Monitor or no

little osprey
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Itll be ethernet and without monitor @stoic island

tight bluff
stoic island
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Plusnomad I managed to squeeze in a 5700xt

tight bluff
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You read "streaming" too right?

stoic island
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Oh wait a bloody moment

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I had my mind on recording xD

tight bluff
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@little osprey A lot of people have different opinions on storage. That one is mine. Bekora had a basically identical build, with different storage setups. But he also had the 1tb Sabrent Rocket I believe. Its the way to go

stoic island
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Also, I feel the mATX board for like 30$ less might be worth it

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So you can squeeze in higher freq ram

tight bluff
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Have some dignity.

stoic island
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Waig

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You're not pinned for the price

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You can squeeze in 3600mhz ram rn

tight bluff
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I think that specific build request was $950

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Or 900 or something

stoic island
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Oh what

tight bluff
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But it can change depending on the storage you want.

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So its up to him

stoic island
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My reading might just be off today

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He said "1000 friendly"

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I interpreted that as flexible near 1000

tight bluff
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Also its 2000 series, not 3000 series. You dont need 3600 to be 1:1 with the infinityfabric

stoic island
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??

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3600 is 3rd gen

tight bluff
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Wait I forgot what build I posted

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Not enough whisky

stoic island
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Lol

tight bluff
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Oh for some reason I thought that was a 2700. Which to be fair might be a good option based on that use case and a bit more friendly budget wise

stoic island
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I would assume 3600 is slightly better gaming wise

tight bluff
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It is, but a 2700 wont bottleneck a 1660S

stoic island
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I was saying bc I felt there was slight bottle necking 2700 with a 2070

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So you're prob correct

vale dome
stoic island
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Well I'm not sure how A320m board would work with 3600

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like I think you cant do that

tight bluff
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You know you dont need extra casefans in a budget build right

stoic island
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(isnt it b350 and up only?)

tight bluff
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Also yeah the 320 is a massive no.

stoic island
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I would suggest some g.skill ripjaw 3200mhz ram

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not sure about UK prices but in the US thats usually a good budget bet

tight bluff
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Actually I bought 16gb of 3600Mhz ram for £3 more than that

stoic island
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suggest that then

tight bluff
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Viper Blackout 4. I think ebuyer was the cheapest when I bought it

austere condor
vague crystal
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Uh

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I

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I dident know you could do that

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I have that case

sharp plaza
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@austere condor nice cable management

austere condor
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no cables yet

sharp plaza
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oh

austere condor
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lol

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but thanks 😄

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that spot for the AIO is, interesting

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idk if i like it yet or not

old charm
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anyone else get icons doubing up?

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steam and spotify do that all the time

stoic island
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yea its sad

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I think its like a shortcut for the app thats on the bar

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so when app launch its separate

proud helm
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i will appreciate someone to take some time on pc part picker and make a best 600$ pc including tax then dm me the link thanks

teal bison
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@proud helm for gaming or do you plan to edit videos/stream or what?

proud helm
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@teal bison gaming

stoic island
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Tax varies on location sooo

jaunty karma
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is this good?

stoic island
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idfk

jaunty karma
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ok

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for its price

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its 2 bucks

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original price is 13 bucks

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thoughts?

vivid atlas
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Not too bad, not the best either I would say

tight bluff
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Morning pedantry.

cursive wharf
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@proud helm Dont think many people want to make 29 builds with an unspecified amount of tax as internationally speaking taxes range from 0% - 28%

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for standard rate at least

dusty bramble
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Looking for help, trying to decide what board to put my 3900x I got for xmas in? Straight gaming performance to pair with a 2080ti. Sub $400 pre tax, shipping. Right now I have MSI MEG x570 Ace, or Asus ROG x570 CH8 Hero. Any other options that would be better? Or thoughts on those 2

onyx dove
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Anyone ever run into the "inaccessible boot device" BSoD right after installing windows on a new build? It looks like it mightve been from a driver update, but I'm curious if anyone else has had this issue

proud helm
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@cursive wharf oh my bad i thought ppl just assume others live in the us. i live in alabama

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those boards you suggested should be fine as they are both x570 which support 3rd gen ryzen out of fhe box

onyx dove
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@dusty bramble that ping was for you, not me

proud helm
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Oh i might build a pc for my friend who is on a 600$ budget is this good? likd no bottlenecking right? and no imcompatibility issues?

cpu: ryzen 5 1600af
gpu: gtx 1650 super
ram: 16gb 3200mhz
mobo: asrock b450 micro atx
psu: evga 600w

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oops sorry

jaunty karma
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cpu. AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Processor. ...
gpu. XFX Radeon RX 580 GTS XXX Edition. ...
ram. Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz. ...
ssd. Kingston A400 SSD 480GB SSD. ...
psu. EVGA 500 BR, 80+ Bronze 500W. ...
MSI B450M PRO-M2 Max. ...
AeroCool Cylon RGB Mid Tower with Acrylic Side Window.

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600$ build

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@proud helm

proud helm
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but i watched a video on the ryzen 5 1600af vs the 2600 and its literally less than 1% less performance for 25$ cheaper

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and gtx 1650 super is slightly better

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The friend i am building this for will only be using this for gaming and maybe some recording. And probably a lot of school work so

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If there is no bottleneck i would rather stick with the better graphics card and more future proof powersupply

jaunty karma
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your choice

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i just suggested

proud helm
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yeah thanks anyways appreciate it

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i was just wondering what other people think

jaunty karma
proud helm
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you know kinda like a second opinion

jaunty karma
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i also have a 600 dollar build

proud helm
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oh nice

jaunty karma
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but i think i got scammed

proud helm
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i have a 1000$ build

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how?

jaunty karma
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it performs worst than others

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600$ builds

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ryzen 5 2600

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samsung branded 1x8gb 2666

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a320m s2h

muted patio
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That's why

jaunty karma
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rx570

muted patio
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single channel memory

jaunty karma
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de500

muted patio
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holding the CPU back big time

jaunty karma
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128ssd

proud helm
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yea single channel

jaunty karma
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500hdd

proud helm
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you need dual channel and faster ram

muted patio
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always get memory in pairs

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always

jaunty karma
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well

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when i got the pc

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i was not yet knowinf

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i was a newbie

muted patio
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Wewll, you didn't get scammed, that's what is holding you back

jaunty karma
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well

muted patio
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And it should be 3000-3200 mhz ram

jaunty karma
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im upgrading anyways

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16gb 2x8 3200

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and changing the board aswell

muted patio
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That'll definitely help

proud helm
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yea frl

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2666 to 3200

muted patio
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The board will only help with the ability to overclock. Mainboards don't affect performance much

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Unless it doesn't support PBO, then it's even more help

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It has an AUTO PBO option but I don't know how well it works

jaunty karma
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im changing 3 things

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psu

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mobo

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and ram

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cooler master masterwatt650 tuf gaming edition

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b450 aorus elite

muted patio
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Biggest performance increase is the faster dual channel ram

little osprey
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anyone know any good 750w gold certified PSU's that are not overpriced?

proud helm
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rosewill powersupplys @little osprey

little osprey
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lol I am looking at just saying screw it and get a 850w for if I want to upgrade my 5700XT in this build @proud helm

muted patio
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not needed

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700-750 is more than enough for a single GPU system, even 600-650 is probably fine

little osprey
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yea but its like an extra 10 dollars for 100 watts so why not just take it

muted patio
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Put the extra $10 into another case fan that is useful? Keep the money in your pocket?

little osprey
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ok I am gonna save the money so I can get more steam money 😎

muted patio
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There ya go

proud helm
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xD

little osprey
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lol my ram is overpriced and over powered but idc

mossy citrus
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what can go wrong when building a pc?

muted patio
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Anything is possible. 99% of the time nothing

sacred obsidian
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@mossy citrus you can have dead parts or break parts if youre not careful, but the number one issue ive seen more than any other is people not plugging things in all the way lol

grizzled escarp
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What's ur guys n gals thoughts on a curved monitor vs straight for small sizes like 24 to 32 inches? 1080p 144hrtz

teal bison
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I like straight better

tight bluff
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Yikes.

prime spear
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straight better for 24hz

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had a 24hz curved and messed up a lot of thingfs for me

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imo

grizzled escarp
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I got my build done and working at my buddies place last night the monitor was his 60 inch 4k lg TV via hdni and my gpu ran fine up to 1080p high but when I got it back home it's connected via vga to a 900p monitor and crashes half the time but runs fine at 720p so I need a new monitor. And have a feeling it do the same on my 1080i plasma TV via hdmi not sure yet.

tight bluff
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For some reason of all monitor choices I had, curved had smallest bezels.

prime spear
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well Curved Monitors basically crush some pixels into each other imo

grizzled escarp
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Lowest is 60hzt but looking for up to 144hrtz monitor the gpu is an old amd Radeon 6970

prime spear
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so it makes my image look farther away on a 24 inch

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but on my 27inch 165hz curved i cant tell the difference except for when im looking at the top or bottom of the screen

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ifyou want curved go 27inch or more if you want straight go 24inch

violet island
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Okay so I have a problem where my motherboard says plug the RGB fans (4 pins because their combined) into the RGB header but the RGB header has 5 pins and I can't connect only 4

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TL:DR won't connect 4 pin RGB to 5 pin header

muted patio
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Gonna need an adapter cable

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5 pin to 4 pin

violet island
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My motherboard says 4-5 should work

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But I think the Corsair thing that combines them is too big

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Nvm it's the normal size

muted patio
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Different rgb header then? Are there two?

violet island
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I don't think so but could taking the motherboard out plugging it in and putting it back work?

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I think that would just waste rime

muted patio
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Why take the mobonout? I'm not understanding here.

polar holly
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the best bet would be place a photo of the connection your trying to plug so we can help more

proud helm
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i have pentium. will work on x570 motherboard with rtx titan?

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jpjp im not that stupid

sudden turret
violet island
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When I get home I will

mossy citrus
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Should i get a prebuit custom or just build

violet island
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Building it yourself is cheaper

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And the only hard part is finding the best place for cables

little osprey
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Yea. Ok

tight bluff
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Lul.

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#Realism

vital geyser
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Buy it

tight bluff
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Its a scam site.

austere condor
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got another PC almost finished up

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waiting for my HDD's and SSD's to show up

violet island
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Nice

gentle bay
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Could anyone recommend a good gaming chair for a decent price

little osprey
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We still use chairs and desks?

tranquil dust
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hahaahhahhaha

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(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

mossy citrus
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(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

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Im pissed

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My dad says i cant bild a pc cuz "a lot of things will go wrong"

austere condor
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$160 well spent 😄

latent bronze
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ill take one from you lol

violet island
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@muted patio

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That to the five pin

latent bronze
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That is a RGB cable

violet island
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Uhuh

latent bronze
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So it goes in a RGB header

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If your board doesn't have one then you can't use it

violet island
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It does

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But its five pin becuase it also has qhite

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White*

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In the manual says you should be able to plug it into that

latent bronze
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it is showing 4 pin for 4 port header and 5 pin for 5 pin header

violet island
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And use the four on the left

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There's is another greyed out pin

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On the 4

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Sorry that it's upsidown

latent bronze
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You can try it out but really i have no idea why they would have a 5 pin RGB header

violet island
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For white

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Because some fans have white apparently

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@polar holly Can you help you asked for the pics earlier

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Or can I plug into the CPU LED header

sudden turret
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youll need a 4 pin to 5 pin adaptor

violet island
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Well crap okay

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Do you know of any that are small?

dusky lantern
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Ni hao

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I plugged everything in, except the graphics card cause it didnt arrive yet. Am i still able to turn it on and see if pc works? My cpu is a ryzen 2600

polar holly
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no you wont because you have to way to post to a display

sullen spoke
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sorry @latent bronze

latent bronze
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@rancid basin the xbox is fine

sullen spoke
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lol

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kkk?

rancid basin
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Yeah it's an Xbox driven setup

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It's wack

sullen spoke
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ku klux klan?!?! 👀

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xbox setups scary

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lol

little osprey
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@dusky lantern yes. U can turn it on aslong as your mobo has hdmi,dp,etc...

dusky lantern
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itdont

polar holly
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the 2600 does not have a intigrated gpu so it will not show you anything

cursive wharf
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@little osprey A decent 850w will run you like $120+. PSUs arent as simple as wattage and rating. There is voltage ripple/regulation, protections, noise, life expectancy, tensient response, etc. That is why you dont just randomly pay for some cheap 850w but instead pay for a good 550w or 650w that is close to the same price as a cheapo 850w.

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@proud helm Well you cant really just assume that you live in the US as even in the US taxes vary. In Canada for example taxes range from 5% - 15%

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Also which EVGA PSU? Lot of the cheap ones arent that good

full agate
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Hello

proud helm
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hola

full agate
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Hi

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What type of specs can I get with a 800 or 900 budget pc

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Build

austere condor
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R5 3600 / RX 5700

violet island
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I can't fit all the cables into my case can anyone help?

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If you can help please ping me

winged hollow
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can anyone that knows pcs very well make a $1000-$1200 desktop. i have little clue what i’m doing when it comes to desktops. i’ve used a laptop all my life. if you can @ me with the parts. thanks in advance if anyone does this

sacred obsidian
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although id be worried about that bios update thing

latent bronze
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What bios update?

little osprey
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guys this is my pc part picker list for my itx pc build btw its my first build what do yall think https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yvfX27 btw im picking the lian li TU150 but pc part picker does not have it

sacred obsidian
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Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.

latent bronze
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@sacred obsidian it is a max board it won't need an update

sacred obsidian
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oh ok cool. so yeah thats a good build then lol.

latent bronze
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But id rather go for the 2060 Super

jaunty karma
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is it fine if ur rgb is connected from the psu

latent bronze
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if you have no other options then yes

grizzled escarp
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My cpu is a ryzen 2600 with a Radeon HD 6970. While installing windows 10 to the build at friends place we had it hooked up to a 60 inch lg 4k tv as a monitor via hdmi Everything ran fine and was stable while testing heaven and superstition. Why would it crash and not be stable on a acer monitor which resolution is 1680x1050 via vga connection?

cursive wharf
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@sacred obsidian With a 1k build you can easily get a 5700XT/2060S

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Yet you have a 1660S

sullen spoke
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ok boomer

grizzled escarp
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What would the recommendation between between a 28 inch 4k monitor at 60hz with 1ms vs a 27 inch curved 1080p at 144hz at 4ms monitor?

latent bronze
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1080p

sullen spoke
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If you are gaming 144hz is more important

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but 4ms response time on a 144hz panel is a little high, usually you want 1ms

latent bronze
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little high would be 5ms

sullen spoke
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I still wouldn't feel comfortable at 4ms. That is usually the response for 4k panels and in addition the advertised response time is actually the minimum response time

latent bronze
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My monitor is 1080p 60hz with 4ms i have no issues what so ever

sullen spoke
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well that is 60hz

latent bronze
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I can if i want to overclock it to 72hz 😛

grizzled escarp
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So a smart option would to be look for a 1080p at 144hz at 1ms vs a 4k at 60hz with 1ms response time for gaming?

sullen spoke
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for gaming yes

grizzled escarp
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OK thx I was impressed with the friends 4k tv. And some 1440p monitors about the same price as a 4k monitor

sullen spoke
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what is your budget? @grizzled escarp

woven horizon
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Has anyone used motherboard fan splitters which ones should I buy?

grizzled escarp
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@sullen spoke for 1080p 200, for 1440p 300 to 350. 4k 300 to 400

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@sullen spoke would like to be no more than 200 but I know that's not possible for a real good one with 1ms and high refresh rate so why the prices I have range a bit

grizzled escarp
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27 vs 32 inch 1440p with 144hz at 1ms thoughts? 70 dollar difference same brand one is 250 and the other is 320

sullen spoke
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27 at 1440p better

grizzled escarp
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This an overkill for a 1080p monitor

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The 1440p monitor I'm looking at in comparison which is 50 dollars less

woven horizon
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thats an expensive AOC monitor

sullen spoke
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but 2k res and 144hz

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looks interesting

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check reviews

distant steppe
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@austere condor Are you planning to like put fans on that build?

austere condor
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nope

grizzled escarp
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Yes 2k at 144hz at 1ms vs 1080p at 240hz at. .5ms

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@sullen spoke that line with AOC all look like they have good reviews including the 240hz one. 27 in at 1080p at 144hz is 190 27 inch 2k is 250 and 27 inch 1080 at 240hz is 295. Two are curved panels last one is flat

sullen spoke
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I would go with the second personally, but it's your choice

grizzled escarp
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@sullen spoke OK thx may I ask why?

sullen spoke
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I personally feel uncomfortable going higher than 24" at 1080p resolution because I think at that point you lose clarity. The second option is a good allrounder except the the 2nd probably doesn't have the best color which is ok if you are gaming and won't really notice the color.

grizzled escarp
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Right now my gpu can only handle 1080p since it's 10 years old but still works like new. Not sure if it would handle 1440p but I'm trying to upgrade everything to be set for a few years. @sullen spoke

sullen spoke
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If you don't think you will be able to run it you could opt for a cheaper basic 1080p monitor and later buy a nicer one and keep both so you have double monitors

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that's what I did. I have one generic monitor and one 240hz one

grizzled escarp
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Well it ran fine on a 4k tv at 1080p but I do believe it was only 60hz

sullen spoke
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what gpu is it?

grizzled escarp
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Amd Radeon HD 6970

sullen spoke
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hmm

grizzled escarp
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It ran the division at 720p high at 93 fps and system which was 1680x1050 low at 65 fps

sullen spoke
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That won't be able to run high refresh as of right now, and would be iffy at high res

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When did you plan on upgrading your pc?

grizzled escarp
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On lg TV it ran heaven n superstition on 1080p medium which 110 fps max and average of 65 low of 8 fps but on my monitor it crashes heaven n the superstition is about the same

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@sullen spoke I just did the only thing I didn't upgrade was monitor n gpu

sullen spoke
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fps doesn't have to do with the screen it is attached to

grizzled escarp
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True

sullen spoke
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It depends on output resolution, cpu, and mostly gpu

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What are your specs?

grizzled escarp
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Cpu is ryzen 2600 running at 3.7ghz and ddr4 16gb ram at 3200 speed

sullen spoke
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how about the storage

grizzled escarp
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Gpu is overclock Ed to 950 and 1450 speeds

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240gb ssd and 1tb hard drive

sullen spoke
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and what monitor do you use right now?

grizzled escarp
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A old acer 24 inch that's resolution is 1680x1050 at 60hz only connection is dvi

sullen spoke
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yeah I would say you definitely need a gpu and monitor upgrade

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How much were you thinking to spend on a gpu?

grizzled escarp
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200 since the rx 5700 xt is out of my budget

sullen spoke
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ok so I'm not sure about amd but you can probably squeeze in a 1660

grizzled escarp
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Will definitely be getting a new monitor soon the gpu not sure when maybe black Friday

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Only amd in my budget is rx 590 or 580

sullen spoke
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I would say 590 or if you can find one at a good price, a 1660

grizzled escarp
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@sullen spoke I just had questions about the monitor since the 4k at friends place looked tempting to try and get if not a 144hz 1080p monitor

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I think the 1660 or the super edition beats out the 590 about 10 percent better in games but like amd

stoic island
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Isnt 1660s about 220

grizzled escarp
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They range from 200 to 220 depending on the day and time

sullen spoke
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I am only thinking right now, if you get the monitor first you won't be able to use it's full potential. If you get the gpu first you would be able to max the resolution and framerate on your current monitor instead of using 720p

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and yeah $20 more can get you a decent bump in performance with the 1660 super

grizzled escarp
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Opinions on gtx 980 or 980ti if one can find a good deal on one? @sullen spoke

sullen spoke
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I always prefer newer hardware so it doesn't get outdated quickly

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but a 1660 super beats a 980

grizzled escarp
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OK thx was asking since 1080s are hard to find n when u do they're as much as a 2070 what I've seen thx

sullen spoke
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np

austere condor
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@dry tinsel

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we uh

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we need to talk about your PC

dry tinsel
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i'm not in the mood, i just spent like 2 hours fixing problems

sullen spoke
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lol

dry tinsel
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so i'm gonna decline you there

austere condor
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oof, fair enough, well, if you want some guidance on how to get that system cable managed properly

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lmk

dry tinsel
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it's managed fine - I agree it doesn't follow standards and practices but nothing is really suffering

stoic island
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Cpu cooler orientation is interesting

little osprey
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^

dry tinsel
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it's the fault of the cooler itself

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it points up or down

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it has to do with the "AMD retention clip"

foggy hazel
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what cooler is that?

dry tinsel
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hyper T2

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there's no special AM4 solution in the box

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just a general AMD solution

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i wouldn't have it facing that direction if it wasn't one of two bad options

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it's cooling my CPU just fine however

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i had to take it to 4GHz before it had any issues

foggy hazel
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that is one seriously effed mounting system they have cooked up over at Cooler Master

regal forge
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Is intel or amd better?

teal bison
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For what?

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i think basically anything but the 9900k for gaming, amd wins

regal forge
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Cant afford the 9900k

teal bison
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ok so then probably AMD

regal forge
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Im between 7 3700x and 7 9700k

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So you think AMD is better?

teal bison
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I think so. the AM4 platform also allows a lot of upgradeability and they come with a decent stock air cooler

regal forge
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I plan on get a wter cooler for my cpu

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but ty for the help

teal bison
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ya np but i would ask some other people because im just one person i dont have all the knowledge

regal forge
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Yeah ive been saying it in this chat but most of the time people dont repspond lol

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Im not buying it tonight in a couple days or so

teal bison
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ahh ok ya definately look up some benchmarks and stuff

old charm
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can the LED's in a keyboard keep your computer from booting correctly?

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cuz I'm 3 for 3 booting up after I started turning the LED's in my keybnoard off before it boots

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and its booted up every time so far

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Imma do it for a week and see what happens

winged hollow
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which 2060 super do you guys recommend

muted patio
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EVGA

winged hollow
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ok thanks

little osprey
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2080

stoic island
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What

dry tinsel
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i find it funny that EVGA still uses the acronym VGA in their name

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i remember VGA cards and finally getting fast graphics at 320x200x256 colors

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completely different now though

gentle bay
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What other good Keyboard Brands out there besides Ducky?

sullen spoke
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razer, logitech, steelseries..

latent bronze
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Redragon

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Those are a lot of expensive brands

sullen spoke
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yup but worth

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lol

latent bronze
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But for companies like Redragon you pay half of what the other brands would cost for the same quality

sullen spoke
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¯_(ツ)_/¯ redragon just isn't a prefered company for me, and those aren't real cherry. Probably a chinese knock off

jagged ember
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It does say so in the description

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But it's got a metal backplate and no flex at all, and typing feels pretty good on it

latent bronze
sullen spoke
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Also controllers differ in keyboards, I know logitechs especially the g pro board is very good

jagged ember
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At least the switches in mine are blue

sullen spoke
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get black switches

latent bronze
round flare
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no blue to be as loud and annoying as possible

jagged ember
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"do it, kill him, do it"

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Also yeah my keyboard is like obnoxiously loud

latent bronze
jagged ember
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So people know you're using a mechanical keyboard every time you discord

round flare
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No I like actually want blue switches

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and want to hear them

jagged ember
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It's totally possible that the keys on mine are cherry blue clones

round flare
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they're usually pretty close in quality and feel

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I wouldn't mind clones

jagged ember
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But they're loud and feel good so

round flare
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ya

jagged ember
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I'm also trying to build a desktop

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But I know next to nothing about airflow or case/motherboard clearance

round flare
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it's not too bad building a pc

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it's more intimidating

muted patio
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Mid tower and up no fitting issues usually

round flare
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than anything

muted patio
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It's the sff world that gets tight.

jagged ember
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MicroATX mobo and case

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With an RX580

round flare
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oh u want a small build

jagged ember
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Ryzen 5 2600x

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Well I'm not sure if I want a small build

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But the B450M pro is a cheap mobo at a decent price

round flare
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what's your budget

jagged ember
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Around like

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800-900 cad

round flare
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alright

jagged ember
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I've made a build on pcpartpicker

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If that will help

round flare
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Yeah

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can I see the list

jagged ember
round flare
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that all looks good except the psu

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if you ever plan on upgrading

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you'll have little room

jagged ember
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Mm

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No issues for airflow or heat?

round flare
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idk about that case

jagged ember
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Comes with one fan

round flare
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but does it have good intakes

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like mesh panels or like holes

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lol

jagged ember
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Looks like it

muted patio
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Yeah that you might be tight in there if there are drive bays in the front.

jagged ember
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There seem to be drive bays in the front

round flare
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that seems like it's bound to have a crows nest

jagged ember
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Reviews say there is space behind for cable management

round flare
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alright

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id still consider upping the wattage to like 550

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but it's your choice

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build looks fine

jagged ember
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Alright

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Thanks for the input @round flare

round flare
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yeah np

jagged ember
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@muted patio for someone building their first desktop would the space be an issue?

muted patio
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Judging from the picture you'll be ok.

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However get as many fans as you can bolt in.

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Need air movement.

jagged ember
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Alright I'll keep that in mind

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Any clearance issues obvious between the GPU and the ram?

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Or any other things on the mobo?

muted patio
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Nsh

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Nah

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You'll be fine.

jagged ember
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Awesome

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Thanks for the help!

muted patio
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Ye

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Yw

little osprey
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Hello so i am have a little issues with my motherboard it’s trx40 creator from MSI thing I having issues with cold boot, Everything is stable i am running cpu at stock and memory tested 3600 for 24hrs and had no issues

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@muted patio any ideas?

woven horizon
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are you doing LN2?

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@little osprey

little osprey
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no its has aio

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@woven horizon i am running a raid 0 but i don't think thats it

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because after i reset cmos load xmp it boots fine

woven horizon
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No idea. why do you have drives in raid 0 anyways?

little osprey
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speed i do 3d rendering

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i think its TR bug anyway

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i have friend who has different mobo and his dose the same

woven horizon
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probably i dont know

little osprey
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i am going call msi tmr anyway to see

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thanks again anyway

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worse case i just put my pc to sleep so it never fully turns off

austere condor
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@jagged ember i would HIGHLY recommend not getting a USB wifi adapter

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i'd swap that PSU to a better quality unit

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(same price essentially)

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and I'd honestly get a better case

sacred obsidian
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i second the usb wifi adapter. get a pcie one. usb wifi is terrible

lyric thistle
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especially when they don't work more often than they do

austere condor
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for just under $900 CAD

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i'd be looking to get something more like this

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good case too, ive built in it several times

tight bluff
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Can't get over the Pixel camera more than the builds, tbf.

austere condor
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lol

tight bluff
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Gonna be building a wee ugly but neat MicroATX build some time soon to see what Id be able to sell for locally. Even if its at a loss to get rid of it if It doesnt sell for profit. Just want to test to see what I could get away with.

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The only thing I dislike about it is the price for just 8GB makes it so worth to just go 16.

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So costs £100 less, would perform very noticeably better, could easily sell it for 450 probably. All for the fun of getting to build more machines.

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I actually never bothered to look up the PSU on that unit, 180W lol.

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I went with 450 just because that still gives some leeway to stick a 2080 in it if someone wanted to go that far to upgrade it

jagged ember
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Alright gonna get a pcie wifi

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And the case

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What are some reliable PSU brands?

tight bluff
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Its less the brand, more the model

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Whats your budget?

jagged ember
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Oh thanks

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Budget around 800-900 cad

tight bluff
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You should be able to afford a decent PSU for a build of that price.

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Corsair RMx or TXM 2017, gold+

jagged ember
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Yeah i didn't know it mattered lol

tight bluff
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The number one rule (One of the 25+ number one rules) is not to cheap out on a PSU

jagged ember
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Ah

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There are rules

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Would a ryzen 5 2600x and Rx580 be a midrange?

tight bluff
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Id consider that in the middle. It's miles from top end but also quite a bit above absolute budget builds.

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Hei seems to recommend corsair's CX as the cheapest decent one that they make

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I personally went for TXM

jagged ember
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Ah alright

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Any notable differences btwn corsair and TXM?

tight bluff
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You mean CX and TXM?

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TXM is a corsair model.

jagged ember
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Oh

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What's the difference between them?

tight bluff
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Overcurrent protection.

jagged ember
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Does TXM or cx provide better protection?

tight bluff
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They are the same, except TXM seems to have overcurrent protection, and CX doesn't. Of those years anyway.

cursive wharf
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@tight bluff CX does have OCP on 12v rail at least. Still looking to see for other rails

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Yeah it has it on all rails, tho it is set a bit high causing ripple not being that great

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tight bluff
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Interesting.

little osprey
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best looking rtx gpu

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brand

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?

coarse robin
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igame

fossil hedge
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any techies still around

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i'm the arse that was trying to get theadripper

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I have a question.

polar holly
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yeah whats up

sacred obsidian
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why do you want a threadripper

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i mean im all for it, cause theyre dope, but theyre not really good for every day computers from what i understand lol

polar holly
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he was trying to build a cad system

fossil hedge
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yes. threaddripper is good for cad. I need the cores so that I can have the ram and the gpu run well with solidworks.

sacred obsidian
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oh okay fair enough. i want one for the bragging rights lol

fossil hedge
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I mean its a big IHS. I can flex that on my freands. my actuil quistion is, I found a 980 for 100 USD. I need a gpu, and I have a quadro, and thats the money left over.

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I have extra cables,

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I have cooling paste,

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I just wanted somthing for when I am not cading and want to video edit or game lightly,

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and its cheap and realtivly good, but I want to know if thats a good option.

polar holly
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that isnt the best idea i personally would wait and get a newer gpu like a 1060 when they are on sale used for like 100-110

fossil hedge
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you think a 1060 will be on sale for 100 to 110, when for the past 5 years it has not dropped under 198 USD.

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for the cheapest one.

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are you sure its going to drop?

polar holly
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i mean used.

fossil hedge
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the cheapest I can find on ebay is 144... so I suppose it might drop.

little osprey
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Try for a 980ti

polar holly
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if you find that get a 980ti its slightily better than a 1060

little osprey
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Bout equivalent to 1070

fossil hedge
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a 980 is also slightly better then a 1060

little osprey
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980ti =1070

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Minus 2 gigs vram

fossil hedge
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I mean its going for more then 150 at the moment used.

polar holly
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then wait and see if you cant find one or deal on craigslist for it

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i do craigslist deals all the time and get 1070s for around 125 and 1060s for around 110

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just have to look and work on deals

austere condor
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WIP, once i get fancy pics done

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i'll post in build pics

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someone told me that building in this case is a cable management nightmare

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so i took that as a challenge to make it look all fancy

fossil hedge
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looks very fancy

jagged ember
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Damn that looks good

fossil hedge
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AMD very cool

lime forge
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@austere condor can that fit a 240mm rad in the back or are those 80mm fan spaces? or am i just dumb lmao

austere condor
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80mm

lime forge
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i kinda wanna switch to a m-itx case buuuuuut then id have to get a new motherboard and possibly power supply Oh_No

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shoot

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well

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that means i gotta get a new cooler too

austere condor
lime forge
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looks pretty awesome

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i wanted m-itx for portability :(

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this things too chunky

fossil hedge
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do you think there is any problem with cheeping out on a riser cable

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for pcie

celest horizon
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Yes. Spend $40 on a twin axial cable.

jaunty karma
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I found my old mobo

fossil hedge
stoic island
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you madman

fossil hedge
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I'm going to have to say its impossble

stoic island
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they got a balistic missile aimed at your home

fossil hedge
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unless he is planning on moving at mach 7

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yeah that is missile level speeds.

stoic island
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It's already coming

fossil hedge
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15 minutes till impact I suppose

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bet he is going to be confused when he makes his rounds and has a pizza left with a address 3200km away

stoic island
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The great Ghana-India war will begin because of a pizza order

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oh wait thats india

fossil hedge
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there you go.

stoic island
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Also the marker is kinda in the ocean

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so making a guess thats ghana

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maybe cote d'ivorie

fossil hedge
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yeah I know I think its just a bit closer then that. or maybe it really does want that pizza guy to teleport.

stoic island
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huh

fossil hedge
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that would be around 13076.5166 USD in fuel if he drove, or 490000 USD for a missile payload.

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I wish him good luck.

stoic island
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@fossil hedge whats the status on the missile?

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has it impacted yet?

tight bluff
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@stoic island I heard pixel 4s arent great value as phones. Hence why I got the pixel 3a. Budget version but same camera as other pixels. Its decent enough as a phone but the camera for price is amazing.

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We'll see what the pixel 4a comes out at.

stoic island
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huh

tight bluff
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Thats an original pixel, probably? Not worth buying

stoic island
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yea

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thats what I was thinking

tight bluff
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I know Pixel 2 has a similar camera thats almost as good as the 3 onwards because of firmware updates

stoic island
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Didn't know they were already at pixel 4, thought pixel 3 was still the newest xD

tight bluff
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Very little of it is to do with the camera, its all google's AI software

stoic island
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I havn't kept up with phone tech

tight bluff
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Its nice because my pixel 3's camera is getting firmware updates to improve it the same as the pixel 4s so.

stoic island
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Pixel 3a is 350 on amazon eh?

tight bluff
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I paid £400 for mine new on amazon but that was a little while ago. IIRC it was a little cheaper in north america

stoic island
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I wonder, if I was to buy it, should I buy it directly from google/amazon or going to like verizon and buying it?

celest horizon
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PIxel 3 was only a few upgrades over the 2, mainly camera related, and much of that due to software - but what really made it attractive at launch, was free 12 mo 0% apr financing on the $800 list price, then $400+ credit to your phone bill / that other air travel/airbnb deal. Device trade in for a pixel 2 64gb at the time was $275 iirc. Pixel 4 didn't impress many it seems

tight bluff
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I buy my phones and get sim only contracts. The only places I have time to sit down and use a lot of data are at home and work, both with wifi.

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Aside from that if Im out or whatever its to see people etc not sit on my phone

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I pay £6.75 a month for unlim texts/calls + 2gb data. Seems to be fine for me. bought the pixel 3a for £400.

celest horizon
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Google Fi was attractive to me for the same reason, 10 min walk to classs, wifi anywhere I'd really need it.
The throttling is pretty annoying at a measly .25 mbps when you hit 16 GB though.

tight bluff
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Tried an s9 before it, didn't like it, before then was on an s7, previously LG G3 (furthest ahead for its time that a phone has ever been), Then I think the Motorola Moto G? Which had incredibly impressive specs at the time. Then an HTC Desire C, before then I think Samsung Tocco lite, then its just bar and flip phones predating that.

celest horizon
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Never really used data other than vacation/travel.

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I was really rooting for oneplus - doesn't seem to have gone well for them.

stoic island
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The thing is, I'll prob continue with Verizon and use the same sim card I have on my current crappy phone

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Because where I am rn, coverage is bad with every carrier other than verison

tight bluff
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Yeah the OnePlus One is definitely up there with the furthest ahead best value phones at the time. Then after that it just seemed disappointing.

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Look at the price of verizon sim only deals similar to what you get now, and see if by the end of the contract how much more it'd be than just buying the phone outright. If so then might as well.

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Do Verizon do sim only deals? I don't know US companies.

celest horizon
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I used verizon from 2006 to 2016 or whenever Project Fi started up - had the true unlimited grandfathered in data too, but was $128 a mo for something I never used , was only worth $500 to sell grey market - and my # would go with it lol.
Easy decision to port to google.

tight bluff
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I just know people pay a lot more for utilities like phone, tv, internet etc there than we do. And we arent cheap.

stoic island
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We pay 40$ for shared 3gb and unlimited text and calls between two phones if I recall

celest horizon
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Unsure, but at the end of my Verizon use, I wasn't bound by contract.

tight bluff
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Here because of Ofcom phone companies had to implement a free easy way to transfer numbers. I.e you text your carrier to get a code, instant response usually, give it to your new carrier and you get your old number within 24 hours

stoic island
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Checking google fi coverage it's only rated at 3g sooo

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and I stay here prob like 80% of the time

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annnnd my house is at a place only rated 3g too

celest horizon
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Ya, Fi just uses sprint/t-mobile , maybe others iirc - I never had issues in any city, but in the first year of use I noticed dropping 3g driving on the interstate.

stoic island
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wait no its on the edge

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tried my best at getting rid of street names but yaknow

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too many

little osprey
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Okay am I stupid or is this guy
He is selling an i5 96k. He said he upgraded to an i9. So I asked if he also had the MOBO he said no he is still using it for the i9. Please tell me that i9 does have a different socket size LMAO

muted patio
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Nope.

vale dome
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This is probably a stupid question but should I updgrade my 1050ti? If not now when?

tight bluff
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You could have said any GPU, the answer would still be the same. How hard is it limiting the games you play?

stoic island
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also budget

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@tight bluff wdym Noctua looks great imo

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pops out nicely

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it just screams like industrial performance

celest horizon
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❤️ san ace / Delta

tight bluff
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It looks good imo just not pretty. I didn't intend to spend more for less performance for worse looking parts

vale dome
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@tight bluff well i bought vr and i mean, it limits that quite alot... frequent stutters etc.

next merlin
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@vale dome RX 5700 XT IMO best card for its price. Easily competes with 2070 super

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Decent upgrade from 1050

vale dome
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ok ill look into it, thanks

tight bluff
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Unless you stream

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In which case dont get the 5700xt

next merlin
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@tight bluff streaming is fine on the 5700 xt. 2060 and 2070 are better but the 5700 xt is decent

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Overall 5700 xt is just better bang for buck

vale dome
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yea i dont and probably wont stream anyways

tight bluff
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No, the streaming performance on the 5700XT is absolute trash. Its basically non existent. Its a great GPU for gaming but it can't handle streaming at all. If you stream with it, youll need to use CPU for enconding not GPU. And budget rigs where you'd get a 5700XT not better generally dont have CPUs that can cope with AAA titles + streaming that well.

stoic island
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5700xt should get better software from AMD slowly

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Should make it more reliable

tight bluff
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AMD GPUs simply don't have physical cores built into them for the encoder like Nvidia, though there's rumours that they do have some but are locked. I'm not sure I believe them.

woven niche
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I have an AMD Athlon II X4 620 Processor (4 CPUs) ~2.6GHz. I would like to know what SSD to instal to make Windows 10 improve performance.

muted patio
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Lol. Side by side the amd encoder is poo. nVidia does it better . Streamers should get Nvidia, fps gamers should get 5700xt. And 2070 super is faster. 2070 is slower.

little osprey
cursive wharf
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@tight bluff From my understanding AMD does have the hardware encoder. However it still sucks apparently

foggy hazel
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aye, the hardware is there, but not being used to the best of its ability etc etc

sullen spoke
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No one really uses amd’s hardware encoder. It really isn’t anything special

little osprey
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anyway with high core counts are now onboard encoders kinda getting faded out

sullen spoke
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Most people I know of use cpu encoder rather than amd’s hardware encoder. Nvidia’s hardware encoder although is very good and very close in visual quality to cpu encoding

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Cpu encoder has best visual quality tho

cursive wharf
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Well, it can so long as the CPU is good enough to also run the game and the encoder

sullen spoke
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That is why some people use dual pc setups. You can run game at same time but you can notice some input lag which isn’t very good for competitive games

little osprey
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Going to pick up a hp compaq and a 17" monitor for 40$ cad tmrw

warm nova
stoic island
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big flex

sudden turret
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man I need a good chair :\

sullen spoke
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daaaannngg son

warm nova
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I need to actually do something with all the cables, and one of the rgb strips died and the other is falling off

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Cheap walmart strips

sullen spoke
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still looks sick

warm nova
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Thanks

round flare
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nice chair