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ah no plans to be doing any rendering at the moment
Using 3d editing programs etc
Ok
Cuz imo the only reason for a X570 board would be for more overclocking headroom and pcie4
And right now that m.2 ssd is not pcie4 iirc
So theres really no purpose in spending the extra buck for an x570
Any other boards you would reccomend for the build then?
Thanks a lot
Wow ram is expensive in uk
Is it way cheaper elsewhere?
Oh my bad
I have Amazone Prime anyway so no worries
Just got here
Nah nw it's a good idea
But yeah filtering for prime is a good shout
And yeah it's a lot cheaper AFAIK in canada and us
Yeah
Geuss the UK just doesn't make much RAM?
Hopefully there'll be some decent RAM shipping from the US then
Hmmm ok
Rn the build has 3200 cl16, which isn't too much of a difference
But with some luck, there'll be a decent 3600 16 kit for not too much more
Sorry if I'm not able to answer questions all that well I'm not very knowledgeable about pc parts
It's OK
Thanks again for all the help
Hmm, the current 3200 cl16 is ยฃ56
Teah
Which is a pretty good deal
I got one from america I mean
Let me Google pound to usd conversion
Oh OK perfect
Ye
Hey I'm making a new build you mind checking out everything?
I need a 2nd opinion
I know the ram is not amazing but
Its rgb
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bJJ3Rk @stone garden
Saved like ยฃ40 or so on mobo
That can go towards a better mobo
And can u link the ram u found girafe
I'm assuming that the bios warning isn't actually an issue
No
Correct
It rarely is
I do currently have a desktop with windows 7
Oh
Hmm
Yeah
No
Ahh unlucky
Nah
That was only for like 1 year I think
They stopped that after the windows 10 beta was over or something
I regret not doing it at the time now T_T
I mean what
lol
Huh?
I'm certainly not against that
Isn't windows 10 pretty much free anyway?
nice
Hehe
I was under the impression that you could download it for free but had then had to buy a super cheap cd key
Though I geuss those super cheap keys aren't on the official websites huh
Hehe no they aren't
Yeah ok
Just had a look at ur build
Won't comment much on peripherals
Those are mostly preference and they look good
Yeah
That monitor is quite a cheap 144hz tho
I know
I believe Linus tech tips have a review on it
Where they pointed out some ghostinf/yellowing issues
YeAh
Oh yeah that reminds me, @stone garden you don't need to worry about liquid cooling, that air cooler is ๐
True
That's great
I chose the AIO for ultra overclocking
Was slightly worries about needing to learn how to install a water cooler and destroying my computer
It's not that hard
I don't imagine it's super difficult but I can still imagine myself somehow soaking all of my parts lol
Did u choose wifi X570 cuz u need the wifi?
No its chea
Hmmm
Im not the best with using b450s and flashing it
Overclocking on cheap x570's results in rather high temps
From what I've read and heard
Would it be better with a good b450?
Most of the popular b450's don't need flashing for ryzen 3000 compatibility
If they have MAX in the title, they come with ryzen 3000 support already installed
Not ultra
So u probably want a good x470 or X570 board
Yeah
A good X570 will cost
Same I'll check
But I assume theyre a decent amount cheaper
Oh was that the one he overclocked to 165
Or higher I don't r e. Ever
Remember
What did he say about ghosting
I don't really remember, just know he said smth about it
He said theres smearing but no artifacts
He says dang for the price
Oh the sceptre includes a display port
Oh OK then go all for it if it satisfies u :D
Yeah my current is a monitor from like 2013
So I'll definitely notice the difference
470s are pretty expensive
I mean the ryzen 7 3700x is good without overclocking right
For sure
I'm not sure about how much ull gain from overclocking
As ryzen 3000 is alreqdy pushed to near limit
That said, overclocking on b450 is still viable
If u just want to push the 3700 a lil more
And u save some bucks
I did
I saved a lot of bucks
I can probably get a 2080 then
I might get non rgb ram....
I'd spend the extra $11 for a b450 tomahawk max
Just skip a meal one day, it's worth
Xd
It is max
Yeah but u chose the gaming plus
AFAIK, the tomahawk has better vrms
I couldnt find any max tomahawk
Yeah I was gunna talk about that next
Even the 2060 super is
I think 2070s is perfect choice
Henlo
Hey
What are good mouses
Well are you trying to get synced RGB
round $40
Hmmm
Around 40-80
The G-502 hero is 42, dont have it but it seems like it's really good
It's a bit heavy
I would like a light one
My bad
Np ๐
Giraffe do you still have that link to the RAM you found?
American shipping?
No worries I'm fine with a bit of a wait
Ok lemme link
Especially if it'll save me some money ๐
Well how much is it in uk or at least the one you're looking at
This one is 65 pounds 2x8 3600
Oh I never found any on Amazon or pc part picker I was just under the impression you had found one for a good deal?
The uk website?
Yeah does it
Oh no sorry
that's super weird
I changed the url when I put it in to the uk website
but it's way more expensive for some reason on the uk site
Yeah
That's pretty odd huh
Hmm, unless u find a 3600mhz cl16, I wouldn't bother shipping from America
3600cl18 and 3200cl16 have same true latency
Thanks for linking that tomahawk max btw
So I would just get the original 3200cl16 that was in the original link from reddit since it's good enuf
And np
Now I'm under budget by 160 dollars yaaay
uh stupid question but how would I be able to find and add back the ram from the reddit list
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ikr
Where in UK are you by the way
I'm from Scotland
Cause I also live here
Also I think I got it sorted
Yeah pretty much
I'm gonna be getting a new monitor though since my current is just 60hz
Was probably gonna go for 1440p
Mk
but I could cut back to 1080 without being too worried
If you have the budget go for 1440 by all means
Yeah that's what I was thinking
Unless u trying to play bf5 rtx max settings 144hz lol
No point in spending so much on a great computer if you can't display it
Facts
How does rtx actually work btw?
It just has ray tracing
I've heard a lot of talk about it but wasn't sure how much it actually did
Yep
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Sounds about right
Someone was helping me pick out parts yesterday and turna out we live in the same city
that's pretty cool
From this discord also
It's always weird when you find someone online that's even remotely clsoe to you irl
You never really consider where others are from online
did it go well?
Yeah
He was friends with my irl friend
Also I recently met up with my best friend from 3rd grade
He moved to saudia arabia
That must have been really nice
I could imagine it being pretty awkward after so much time passing though
Well it's still pretty popular
You need any more help?
I think at least
Oh well yeah I guess it certainly isn't being talked about as much
I don't think I need any more help
Just @ if you do
But I'll be sure to come back here if I do
Good luck
1440p?
Yeah
144hz?
yep
First how much you willing to spend
Are they not all roughly the same price?
I know it is expensive but I mean if it's 1440 and 144 won't all of the same specs be around the same average
Theres also the colors
Some have vibrant some are dull
The wider the spectrum the more expensive
ah alright i never really considered other monitor specs than res and hz
I can find one just gimme ur budget for it
I'd probably be looking for nothing more expensive than like ยฃ300?
Hmmm
But I'm not really sure on the average price for monitors since I've not looked into them till now
Lemme see
I might be willing to stretch the budget if they're all way more expensive than that
I'll take a look on amazon and check the averages
oh that's a lot cheaper than I was expecting
I was worried they were all going to be in thr ยฃ450 range
I'm not in a huge rush so I don't mind the shipping time
Sorry I'm playing r6
No worries lol
I'll check
Enjoy your game for now and check when it's over
Thanks a lot
1ms response time
Sounds pretty good
Lemme link it
A bit over budget
But worth it I think
NOOOOOO
Estimated arrival Feb 5-March 19!
omg
Yeah this one does seem better
Only 24 inch though
Does this one have a higher refresh rate too
Yeah def
More space on my desk I geuss lol
I should be able to just keep my current monitor and use it too right?
Oh yeah true
Or will the different resolutions cause issues?
No
Itll look weird maybe
If you stream you can look at chat on the worse one
And play on the good one
I mean as long as it works
Dont trust me saying that though, never done it myself
If you dont dual screen itll be fine
You can look at tutorials or something
You good now?
Yeah I think that's me all set
If I have any more questions I'll be sure to @ you
Thanks so much for all the help
I will ๐
Thanks I'm sure I'll need it
Probably a good idea It's been a little while since I built a pc
Mhm
hey everyone, I am looking to put together a new system as the main drive I want to purchase XPG SX8200 Pro PCIe NVMe Gen3 x4 M.2 2280 512GB SSD (ASX8200PNP-512GT-C). Would this drive be good and 100% compatible with ASUS 970 PRO GAMING/AURA AMD AM3+ FX DDR3 Intel Gb Ethernet M.2 USB 3.1 970 ATX Motherboard this motherboard?
fx 8350 Vishera AM3+ 942
no
Is there a reason you arent going for amd or intel?
AM3+ being so old, it doesnt have M.2 support
FX 8350 is 8 years old now?
i wouldnt recommend buying one new
lol
@obsidian sand
yep
just about 8 years old
even when it released
it wasnt very good
not even a true 8 core
whats your budget for the new PC?
what are you using the PC for?
what country are you buying the PC in?
@obsidian sand
all I am asking is if htat SSD is compatible with the motherboard/CPU?
I am actually rebuilding a PC with old parts
?!??!?!!
no, that SSD is not compatible with that motherboard
any M.2 or NVMe SSD will not be compatible
@obsidian sand
Got a question for you all. Looking to upgrade my motherboard in the near future from a b450m for my 3900x, anyone gor recommendations at the 200 price point?
oooh it does
1 x M.2 Socket 3, , with M Key, type 2242/2260/2280 storage devices support (PCIE 2.0 x4)
is XPG SX8200 Pro PCIe NVMe Gen3 x4 M.2 2280 512GB SSD (ASX8200PNP-512GT-C) compatible with that m.2 socket 3 with M key?
hmm, technically it is, but its an older slot thats only half the speed of what the drive is capable of
ahhh so its not worth it than, I currently have an EVO 850 SSD and this drive is like 2x as fast but u r saying it would be a waste because the old port won't be able to support the fast speed of the drive anyway?
yep, the SSD is a PCIe 3.0 4x, and the slot on the old AMD motherboard is a PCIe 2.0 4x.
what would be the best / highest end video card to put in this FX 8350 machine without bottlenecking, I currently have an R9 280x in it by Windforce
most any modern graphics card you put in that PC will be bottlenecked by your CPU
thank you Demonmit1, i can't afford a new PC right now, was laid off from my old job and i have been unemployed broke and in debt for the past 1.75 years
unless you're picking out something extremely low end
like a RX 550, or a GT 1030
do you already have the motherboard? or are you planning on buying it? @obsidian sand
what is your budget to upgrade this PC?
just wanted to know if I can put that drive into it and if I would notice a significant difference in speed vs my EVO 850 SSD
i dont have any money, i am broke, in debt and unemployed but I did get a 100$ gift card for christmas that would allow me to get that m.2 drive
you would see very little performance increase at all upgrading from a sata based SSD, that you currently have, to a NVMe SSD, in just system responsiveness, programs opening faster, etc etc. there is 0 benefit to workstation, or gaming performance upgrading your SSD.
okay, thank you very much Demonmit1
I am currently studying for my CompTIA A+ and I figured I'd upgrade to a bigger SSD so I can run some virtual boxes of it
my current SSD is only 250, wanted to get at least a 500
you'd probably find better use in getting a 1TB sata SSD for around $80-$90
if you specifically need storage
PCI-E 2.0 M.2, which that motherboard supports, is 500MB/s, the same as a Sata SSD
Demonmit, I have been looking at the Evo 970 PLUS
would htat be a waste too I guess?
extremely
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i would recommend either of those
if you have $100 to work with
and you need more SSD storage
thank you very much
maybe I'll leave things as they are, until I find work and can afford to build a new PC all together
thank you as well Bekora
YW
that would honestly be the best option, as SSD prices will continue to drop in price, so, once you've got enough together to build a new system, high performance SSD storage should be cheaper
Hi
@quartz hill the Gigabyte X570 aorus elite, and the Asus TUF gaming X570-plus (WiFi) are the two best options in that price range right now
I'm using an Aorus Elite with my 3600 and it's been great. Only complaint so far is that Gigabyte's RGB software is terrible, and that's more a minor inconvenience than anything.
if you need wifi, go for the TUF, if you dont, go for the aorus elite
Yes. I have the TUF WiFi and it's pretty good. Best $200 mobo until you get to the $300-350 range feature/component wise
I always hardwire my main desktop PC
Hi
Nope
all good, not like it matters.. was just wondering
@muted patio is the tuf gaming good?
Or the other one you linked? I thought most cheap x570 boards sucked
Oh, the TUF WiFi is the b est mobo under $300-350 quality and feature wise
But either of those is fine
YW
Pre mounted IO shield?
Pre mounted? Pretty sure you just have to pop it in the case
I don't think it's pre mounted
Ok
IO shields typically snap into the case, never seen one pre-mounted before
Really? I've seen tons
Example?
Interesting
most newer boards have IO built in now
my x570 did, and it was the cheapest out there.
gigabyte x570 gaming X
Honestly never paid attention to it, not something I look for
higher end model boards have it
Can I use a 2060 super instead if a 2070 super and still have good frames at 1080p?
i just use my cpu for streaming, but i'd rather enjoy higher fps than broadcasting something nobody will watch :p
Hi
so i want to play minecraft but my computer is slow, so im thinking about building this
AMD Threadripper 3970x
Corsair h100i RGB
Asus Zenith II Extreme
256 GB Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB DDR4 3200
4x Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2tb
2x MSI Gaming X Trio 2080 Ti
Corsair Obsidian 500D RGB SE
Asus ROG-THOR-1200P
do you think i will get 100fps all the time or no? i just wanna make sure
pro
yeah
i am making my pc
dual 2080TI is ridiculous
to play doom 95
thats a bit overkill
Bought yet?
why a exturtal one
probably shouldve put it in build pics
im working to purchase it rn
Ye
is it worth it?
ah okay
honesty i want a good pc but i feel like i bad some bad chooses with that one
whats your current specs
cpu is worse
what is bad?
wdym?
I don't know what you have ATM so.......
for everything?
No such thing as a bad PC provided it does what you need it to
Yes
6k
Why is the 2080 super cheaper then the 2080
but there is dual monitors keyboard and mouse
It's coming along, slowly but surely. Can't wait to try boot up my very first build.
like a video card
Yip, once my cpu/GPU get in, she will be ready to go.
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$1500 is a great budget for a solid high-end system. Here are the parts I would choose to make the most of every dollar.
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The cooler is already in there. Just need the CPU before I can attach it
Putting this here for people to see.
@sour temple hard drive is in the back and the SSD is on already
This build is about 2.5k CDN or 2k ish USD
Would be closer to 3k if I wasn't building it myself
Um, I'm not proficient in monitors
who is?
Depends
depending on what
What hardware
list above
What do u wanna kno?
what one is better
The bottom
k but why
umm i need my storage thou
What for?
O
aorus is 1440p
Ik
and ips
Freesync
some free sync monitors can use g sync
Nope
nVIdia added Freesync support to their drivers in January
SO it really doesn't matter now
that does not mean its better
Or just di whichever cheaper
DP is more important for Freesync/Gsync
i don't think my video card even has more then one hdmi port
At this pint its just value and personal preference
ant it down to rbg thou
ew the 011
Took all old cables and put in new ones without disturbing water cool tubes
Hey
I like it too
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Hey what about my pc. ๐
why purple and red
Because Star Wars
I have Star Wars xp Titan
I want go with the red so purple is my fav.
Damn that looks clean
Thanks
i will not say ether are un clean
Someday I want to paint interior white. And have white watercooling to make glow up pc
Stuff is starting to go back up
I canโt order anything because Iโm still on vacation
There's always next year

Jk I feel you
I'm on vacation too
All I can do is check prices on phone and watch them go up

Gl
Reason: Bad word usage


Is there any cheap way to make my h420 faster?
We discussed this yesterday....
well.
There's no way that it will cost 500 dollars
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what is h420
It's an ancient relic
Lenovo?
Yeah
from 2011
Yeah
Which type, there are two of them
Don't judge this is my phone camera
And, yes I have. A Razer headset with an old computer
so which one is it. 7752, or 10068
Let me check
It says 7752
Is the other one better?
This one has a Pentium in it
Ah, some has been added then
H61M-S2-B3 mobo?
H61 Express yes
LGA 1155 then
It says 6g ram on the case
Ok, right now it has a pentium
yep.
Would I need a new psi for those though?
those two I posted are best 1155 socket cpu
Ok
So, can you send me a link to a compatible i5 or i7 that's cheap cause idk what I'm looking for. Ok nvm
Nvm
Find great deals on eBay for Intel Core i5-2400. Shop with confidence.
What about a CPU cooler for the increased TDP?
Ok, do I need a new psi then?
best thing to do is save money, and not put any money into it.
ok
So, if I get an i5 will I need a new psu?
update it to windows 10 then?
Uhh
You can still get WIndows 10 upgrade for free
I don't think this thing can run it, it has 1t his and I used 1t of it
Really, for free?
then make space.
Ok
@muted patio Is that a pirated copy
did you click the link?
-_-
read it.
Ok

Follow steps 1-5
Ok
I'm just wondering, will an i5 help at all, and if so do i need a new psi and or cooling?
you see how it's a domino effect?
im saying in order to upgrade something, you gotta upgrade something else.
so on and so on.
Ok
it's not worth it to put any money in that build.
Oh
save up, get something more up to date
Maybe I should just sell my stuff
get a console, dunno what to tell you.
Oh, if you're wanting to play FS2020 on a PC you're going to need more than $100
Yeah, I will need to rob nasa of their super computers
Lol, no, but you'll need something more modern for sure
I think I'll just get xplane 11 when fs2020 comes out cause it'll probably be like $20
Here are the X-Plane 11 System Requirements (Minimum)
CPU: Intel Core i3, i5, or i7 CPU with 2 or more cores, or AMD equivalent
CPU SPEED: Info
RAM: 8 GB
OS: Windows 7, 8, or 10, 64-bit
VIDEO CARD: DirectX 11-capable video card from NVIDIA, AMD w/512 MB VRAM
PIXEL SHADER: 5.0
VERTEX SHADER: 5.0
SOUND CARD: Default
FREE DISK SPACE: 20 GB
DEDICATED VIDEO RAM: 512 MB
I'm not sure that Lenovo would work
Actually, 2 more stick of ram and an i3...
You're missing the video requirements. Do you have a video card?
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From the Windows desktop, click Start > Control Panel.
Click System and Security. If using the control panel in icon view, click Device Manager.
Click Device Manager.
The click Display Adapter and tell me what it says
CLick the arrow next to Display Adapter
what are you playing
Roblox, minecraft, fsx, yt
Adobe ps
Adobe ia
Ai*
You can't really judge with fsx... cause it's fsx
I was just reading the Xplane forums and that graphics won't work. People report 1-2 FPS in the demo version. Apparently there's a demo version to try but..........yeah. No go.
What's a good PC for VR Gaming
@muted patio Only one M2 slot on that board
yet two M2 drives
Also with a 1k budget cant you afford a 5700XT, $400 GPU? If you need CUDA for whatever you're talking about there is 2060S
I have finished my pc
Now I can play minecraft with no lag lol
It has an RX5700
Not xt
It runs very smoothly
What are your average frams?
I capped it at 70
1440p?
I limited fps to 70fps minecraft with max ither settings
Oh yeah
Yes i used to have a dell inspiron m5040 lol
Oh ga
yea you should probably consider upgrading...
I looked at older comments. That old pc would not last longer in future. New build and better.
I would probably switch the ssd to 500gb
And wait till some of the stuff goes on sale
This one is mine โ๏ธ
Also the MM300 mousepad is super long
I got the MM350 and it is bigger than I expected
Anytime
so i fuound an old windows xp it has 16 gigs of ram on it if i replaced the OP and got a new gpu and cpu wold it run good?
ok
Yeah its not ddr4
Yah
ooooooo so at that point im bulilding a new pc, no?
ok
Yeah most parts from 7+ years ago won't be compatible with much today
Harddrives and ssd's at most
just posted a pic of my build in #build-pics anyone have any suggestions on cable management for the aio
What did you put on your exhaust fans @ionic lagoon
what do you mean
Looks like mini glass panels
i didnt put anything its just my camera
Doesn't look like there's much to do there with those hanging cables
Apart from getting shorter cables :/
ok thx
Or maybe nicely wrapping them behind that thing beside the rad
But I don't think that'll do much hehe
Maybe u could turn the cpu cooler upside down and have the cable be more stretched out xd
no im not worried about the pipes just the cables going to the sata power and fans behind the back panel
ok
Is there any big difference between the three:
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ZOTAC GAMING GEFORCE GTX1660 SUPER AMP 6GB GDDR6, 192 bit, 1845/14000, HDCP, Three DP, HDMI, Medium pack ZT-T16620D-10M
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EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card
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Asus Dual DUAL-GTX1660S-O6G-EVO GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER Graphic Card - 6 GB GDDR6 - 1.53 GHz Core - 192 bit Bus Width - DisplayPort - HDMI - DVI
The price is roughly the same aside from a 5~10$ diff
Not a noticeable difference
What do you guys think about this computet? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jWyh9G
@swift helm what are those specs that's pretty lol
What do you think of this pc? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jWyh9G
@formal plover that's like BUDGET budget
also that cpu doesnt work with that mobo
wait im wrong
i didnt realize they still use a8
its not horrible for how budget it is and would be fine for upgrading in the future but if that's the plan you probably should spend a little more on a psu imo. you wont be able to game on that though i don't think
What psi do you reccomend? And what differences does a more expensive one have?
i usually tell people to get a 750 but i would say minimum 650
For igpu gaming 500 is okay
even with a gpu
he could toss in a 570 or something similar
and it would be smooth
but what if he wants to upgrade to much better specs later on? i feel like 500 has a lot of limits too when upgrading and IMO its best to be able to upgrade as little as possible at a time to save money
There are some cheap 650w psus
@sacred obsidian which 750 you think?
Also most builds will do ok with a GOOD 550w like the Corsair CX
But for $3 more you can get the 650w version lol
iunno any noteworthy brand really. i just avoid sketchy stuff and look for modulars and well known brands lol
modular for cable management and well known brands cause ive been burned to many times buying sketchy stuff
but it really depends on budget


