building-and-recc-chat

[dry tinsel]

unfortunately OEM motherboards can be weird form factors too

I have a BTX PC in the house

being uninformed is completely normal

is there a bar or something blocking the way for a bigger GPU?

also, do you have the proper power connectors?

[elfin remnant]

The biggest issue^^

[polar holly]

It also seems those are half height pcie expansion slots

[dry tinsel]

oof

[brisk fiber]

I'm starting to get the picture that this pc is difficult to upgrade.
I thought the only issue I had for upgrading would be space in the case, in which I'd try and move everything to a bigger one.

There's no bar blocking the gpu but it just wouldn't fit in the case.

[jaunty nacelle]

should i get 3200mhz ram or 3600mhz ram for a ryzen 3000 cpu

[dry tinsel]

just be careful upgrading in this way because you could run into a situation where your motherboard doesn't fit properly

3600 but make sure it's CL16

the latency matters a lot

really high latency 3600 will be worse than low latency 3200

[cursive wharf]

3600 CL18 is basically 3200 CL16. 3200 CL16 is quite a bit cheaper than 3600 CL18

[dry tinsel]

yeah

[cursive wharf]

which is why 3600 CL18 doesnt make sense 99% of the time

[dry tinsel]

3200 CL16 can be had for like $115 for 32GB of some G.Skill Aegis

super cheap

i've used that particular brand of RAM in the DDR3 days

if you're on a budget, Hei is right, the 3200 CL16 is a better choice, but if you can find (and afford) 3600 CL16 that's the way to go

[elfin remnant]

yeah, neo 3600 c16 is like 105 bucks for 16gbs

[dry tinsel]

that's an absurdly high price

only okay if you have money to burn

i remember when DDR3 was that expensive for a while for even 1600/CL8 (8? yeah, it was 8 back then)

[warped moat]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hm4phg

Y’all got any suggestions

I already got some spare RAM so don’t worry about that

[eager chasm]

@warped moat what kind of spare ram?

[warped moat]

DDR4 3200

[eager chasm]

Ok, just checking

carry on

[warped moat]

Cool

[elfin remnant]

@warped moat pretty good, maybe a ssd for boot, its a nice luxury

[warped moat]

This my little brothers build

[eager chasm]

I've used a Fatal1ty Gaming board, they work pretty well

[warped moat]

Yea was thinking I might get an ssd

Got any good ones for like 50$

Just as a boot drive

[eager chasm]

Western Digital blue SSD is about $50

[elfin quiver]

Ryzen 5 3600 or ryzen 7 2700x?

[eager chasm]

Both SATA cable and m.2

[warped moat]

Thx

[elfin remnant]

crucial has sata ssd, 250gb for like 48

[eager chasm]

@elfin quiver if you are just gaming the 3600X is better and faster for that

If you are doing software based recording or streaming and video editing 2700X

[elfin quiver]

Cool thanks appreciate that got 2700x for christmas and it would be definitely for gaming more

Just going to go throw down a little more and upgrade#

[eager chasm]

The 2700X and 3600X have about the same multicore performance

Even though there are fewer cores in the 3600X

The 3600X is a lot more power efficient and easier to cool :)

[elfin remnant]

I just want a damn 3950x to be in stock

[eager chasm]

I'm more than happy with a 3700X :3

It's more CPU than I ever need

[elfin remnant]

I have literally zero meed for a 3950x

but damn do i want one

[eager chasm]

I know the feeling XD

Same with my 3700X, same with 32GB of ram, same with 7TB of storage

[coarse coral]

i dont need a 9900k

but i have it

[eager chasm]

I love those Squirtle emotes

[elfin remnant]

[eager chasm]

I wanna join that server just for the emotes XD

[round flare]

[elfin remnant]

which one ?

[coarse coral]

I DONT LIKE THE NAME OF THAT ONE CALUS

[round flare]

I didn't choose it please don't kill me

[elfin remnant]

[eager chasm]

[round flare]

[oblique karma]

Boomer build - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jVdbp8

I left out the floppy drive on accident

[eager chasm]

@oblique karma but the 3700X comes with a varrient of the max

[upper thunder]

I’m so glad that there is restrictions with power supplies

[eager chasm]

?

[upper thunder]

I just put a new power supply in, and it kept turning off

And I was confused

So I started my pc again

And the psu shut the pc off several more times

So I checked the cables everything was fine

Until I realized my liquid cooler fans weren’t spinning

I would’ve killed my 3700x

[eager chasm]

That's not the PSU that's the motherboard detecting missing hardware

[upper thunder]

Well, the pc was turning on fine

Until I tried to sign in

But right before it turned off there was a loud click from the psu

[eager chasm]

Well if it's working now that's all that matters

[upper thunder]

Yup

Just spent $1600 on this system, my first build, I don’t want it to die 😂

[eager chasm]

Nice :)

GPU?

[upper thunder]

2060 super

[eager chasm]

Nice

[upper thunder]

Yee

I don’t really understand why someone would buy a rtx 2080 to

Ti*

[eager chasm]

Cause ....

[upper thunder]

I can run most games at max graphics with consistent 60-120 FPS

[eager chasm]

https://media.tenor.com/images/ed3712c751c982c694486a3f89f08061/tenor.gif

[upper thunder]

I mean, I understand games like assassins creed oddessy

But, even control with direct x12 runs at 40 FPS

At max

[elfin remnant]

Because if i dont have 32 gbs of ram a 3950x and dual 2080tis what am i even doing

[upper thunder]

Lol

[eager chasm]

I have a VII, most of my games run at like 120-160 FPS even on max settings... Except RE2, that game on max is a Graphical monster

[upper thunder]

While your at it get a titan x

What would be the point of an rtx 2080 ti anyways?

Ah

[elfin remnant]

Future proofing

[eager chasm]

To play games at 240hz 1440p

[upper thunder]

I don’t have internet to download that game 😭

[elfin remnant]

Non gaming stuff, rendering

[upper thunder]

No I was adding on the the thing I said with the titan x

I was joking

I know the reason why the rtx 2080 ti was a thing

Is*

I’ve been downloading project cars 2 (38.2GB download) for 5 days straight

[elfin remnant]

jeez

[eager chasm]

....

Wow

Comcast? Lol

[elfin remnant]

are u running to the data center for each mb of data

lol

[eager chasm]

Australian internet?

Dial up?

[elfin remnant]

Telegraph?

[upper thunder]

Satellite

No cable in my area

[eager chasm]

Time to move

[elfin remnant]

That is how it used to be where i lived too

[upper thunder]

I can’t

I’m 15

[elfin remnant]

62 kbs oooooof

that is rough my friend

[eager chasm]

That the worse speed I've seen even on satellite

Dial up would be faster

[elfin remnant]

fr

[upper thunder]

Lol

I have hughesnet

There’s no dial up in my area either

Believe me I’ve looked into it

It’s hard playing online games at 900-2,000 ping

[elfin remnant]

Those are terrreible speeds. I wonder if its something else

[upper thunder]

It’s not

[eager chasm]

Parents not paying for a faster connection probably

[upper thunder]

It’s because my 50 GB limit this month is used up

No

[golden marten]

Ahh

data caps such

**suck

[upper thunder]

We are paying $150 a month on the largest data plan

Tell me about it

[eager chasm]

Wtf 50GB cap? That's tiny

[upper thunder]

I’m

[eager chasm]

Get a different satellite service

[upper thunder]

Ik*

It gets used up in two weeks if I don’t have any games needing updated or downloading

[golden marten]

When I visited Nepal, we had a 20gb cap, with one like 256kbyts

[upper thunder]

There is none

The only other one is viasat(aka exede)

They cost more and worse speeds

And they jack up their prices after three months

[golden marten]

Yep

[eager chasm]

I'll never move to someplace without broadband

[golden marten]

yeah I'm back in the US with fiber, so much better

[upper thunder]

Only reason why I don’t have cable is cause spectrum apparently can’t transport cable from a city to a town that is 10 minutes away

[still roost]

Uranium Oxide#6292 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[golden marten]

Oops

[upper thunder]

Lol

[golden marten]

didn't realize

[upper thunder]

Sad

Is there a limit to how much you can be warned?

[golden marten]

Prob 3

[coarse coral]

If you break the rules enough it turns into a 1 day ban

But you do it intentionally I'll Perma ban

[upper thunder]

Ah

[golden marten]

I saw the pg-13 and assumed, oops

[upper thunder]

I get its 3 am

See ya

[eager chasm]

Today the new egg warehouse staff go back to work :D

[upper thunder]

Gtg*

[eager chasm]

I'll get my order shipped today

[upper thunder]

fun

[golden marten]

Ayy

See y'all

[eager chasm]

Night

[upper thunder]

I ordered a new joycon cause messed up a disassemble

[eager chasm]

Speaking of joycons I'm gonna play some pokemon

[upper thunder]

Gotta love stripped screw heads

Oh quick question

[eager chasm]

Use super glue in the screw head toget it out

[upper thunder]

You know how the sd sticks out a bit?

When put in

[eager chasm]

Yes

[upper thunder]

If I were to uh, accidentally push on that, would it break the sd or the sd card reader

[eager chasm]

It shouldn't

[dry tinsel]

you would just cause the SD card to eject

[upper thunder]

That’s not what I ment

I tried removing the black shell from the switch so I could put on a clear one

And I forgot I had my sd in there

And i tried to take it off and the lip caught the edge of the ad card

Sd*

[eager chasm]

If the card isn't broken you're good

[upper thunder]

I didn’t put too much force but now my switch won’t even recognize that I have my ad card in

Sd*

Says I have to redownload all my games

And when I go into settings it shows I don’t have a sad card in

Sd*

[eager chasm]

Rip...

[upper thunder]

I love autocurry

Would that kill the card or the reader?

[dry tinsel]

i don't think so but you want to take the card out until you put the new case on it

[upper thunder]

Yea ik

No crap

I forgot about it

I’m sorry I’m just stressed, I just spent so much freaking money on my pc, and now I just destroyed a joycon and now the freaking sd or sd card reader which is more money that I don’t have right now

[dry tinsel]

it should be fine

[eager chasm]

Stop touching tech for the day, touch it when you are less flustered

[dry tinsel]

that is good advice

[eager chasm]

That can help prevent more damage

[dry tinsel]

when you are frustrated you will ruin things

[dusky saffron]

Would your CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model CMW32GX4M2C3200C16 work with one I currently have? I have a Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3000MHz CL15 DIMM White (CMW32GX4M2C3000C15W)

[eager chasm]

It's best to keep the module speeds and timings the same

[dusky saffron]

Yeah I thought so. Such a bummer though. Killer deal for Boxing Day.

[little osprey]

sitting in line at canada computers

[steep elbow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LWh9K4
Any recommendations for this?

[little osprey]

don’t get a gpu with a blower

and uh

more rgb

[steep elbow]

Is RGB memory mystic light controlled or is it just seperate

[deep skiff]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zmbphg

and you can get windows keys for way cheaper on eBay or other sites

[old charm]

i had my build at the tech store and the guy there installed it on my pc for like $35 bucks

[old charm]

so even when I use a different HDMI it still does that "no signal" thing

I don't understand what could be happening because turning it off and turning it back on always owrks

oh

wtf

it just restarted itself without my having done anything and now the picture is on

I don't undetrsnad

https://tenor.com/view/jackie-chan-meme-gif-5480485

[sterile wave]

Rip

[little osprey]

do i need to put thermal paste on my cpu or is it preapplied

r5 3600x

because i thought somebody said amd chips come preapplied

[muted patio]

Coolers come preapplied

not the CPU

Stock coolers, anyway

[little osprey]

ohhhh okay

[muted patio]

If you aren't going to use a stock cooler, get some thermal paste

[little osprey]

well i’m using an aio so i guess i should put some on

[muted patio]

AIO might come with it

Which one?

[little osprey]

my aio came with some in a syringe

[muted patio]

Ah good

Yeah, you'll need to apply it then

[little osprey]

alright

and also if i have my fans on the inner side of my aio should i have them pointing towards the aio or away?? towards i’m guessing

[tranquil dust]

Thermal paste isn’t actually there to improve cooling. It’s there to fill in the tiny spaces inbetween the cpu and the cooler

[little osprey]

yeah i know what it does

[tranquil dust]

Ok good I just found that so I wanted to share it lol

[sterile wave]

Lol

Also the fans should face outside

To draw air cool air through them

[little osprey]

so like between the aio and the case??

[sterile wave]

Oh no, the aio should be between fans and case

[muted patio]

You want the fans pushing air through it

Not pulling

[little osprey]

okay

got it

thanks

tubes should be at the top??

[muted patio]

Best at the bottom if you can.

[little osprey]

i’m very glad i’m asking these here before just doing it lmao

we installed the aio successfully

we’re getting there

[sterile wave]

Noi e

Nice*

[rain tide]

anyone know if newegg has a coupon code for samsung evo ssd or crucial ram cards?

[little osprey]

so uh

how do i know what cords i need for the psu

because i know i don’t need them all

[sudden turret]

they are labeled

[muted patio]

Well, either the cords or the PSU will be labeled where the cords plug in

[little osprey]

oh also fan should be facing down right

i have an air filter on the bottom

or up

oh cooling how you confuse me

fan on psu^^

[sterile wave]

The fan hiles/filter on psu should face bottom

Where the holes/filter in the case are

[little osprey]

now it’s cable time

and then gpu

then pray it boots

[sterile wave]

Should've test boot outside of case :)

[little osprey]

uh what do i do with all these case cords

like power etc

[sterile wave]

Hide them as best u can

[stoic schooner]

what power supply is more reliable and better thermaltake or evga they are both 500w

[little osprey]

evga imo

[stoic schooner]

thanks

wait is there a difference between the white and the bronze

[little osprey]

why are there so many data cables

sata

i literally need like one of them

[still roost]

santa claus#6969 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

my gpu doesn’t fit with my aio

i guess it’s time to put the aio on top??

[sterile wave]

I guess so

Just hope there enough clearance with ur ram

[still roost]

Wonderful Day#5480 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[sterile wave]

Otherwise ur screwed

If it doesn't fit front or top

What GPU u have

Must be a long boy

[little osprey]

it’s a two fan 5700 xt

but aio fits on top

msi gaming x 5700 xt

[sterile wave]

O so is ur case matx?

But anyways, if it fits on top it fits

So that's good

[little osprey]

i’m using a fractal design meshify c for my case

also what do i do with all these extra sata cords because unless i’m missing something i literally only need one

and it’s just for the rgb hub for my aio and fans

[sour violet]

I'v recently ordered a rtx 2060 dual evo, a 3600x, a asus tuf x570, 16gb of 3600 g skill and a corsair rm650. Cant wait to build it. Anyone know what would bottle neck what?

[elfin remnant]

There shouldnt really be any terrible bottlenecks, have fun building!

[sudden turret]

Yep you got a good build there @sour violet

[sour violet]

Thanks!

[little osprey]

does it matter which pcie x16 i put the gpu in???

[lyric thistle]

I think??

[warped moat]

Yea

Most of the time you want it in the top slot

[little osprey]

yeah i figured

just gotta move some stuff to fit it in there

[elfin remnant]

Top slot normally has the most bandwidth so yeah that one @little osprey

[little osprey]

got it

[timid nacelle]

So. I’ve got a question. I transferred my build to a new case added fans and changed the psu. Now I can’t get an image to display. Is it possible I killed the card?

[sterile wave]

Unless u noticeably did something to it that made u say fudge or oof while handling it

I wouldn't jump to that conclusion yet

But ofc it's a possibility

Is it getting power when booting?

As in fans spin ing

[little osprey]

Did you change the cables as well?

[lyric thistle]

fudge or oof... ok noted

just gotta make sure I don't say fudge or oof right

[little osprey]

660p , slli is dead tech I use streamlabs obs on purpose it's a minefield tbh

[jaunty nacelle]

if i were to pair a ryzen 5 3600 with a rtx 2080, would there be any bottlenecks

[timid nacelle]

I changed cables lights work and fans spin

I’m reseating it rn

[sterile wave]

What res and refresh rates @jaunty nacelle

[jaunty nacelle]

1440p and 144hz

[timid nacelle]

And nothing made me want to sweat while handling it

[sterile wave]

Depends on the game and settings, naturally @jaunty nacelle

[timid nacelle]

It worked with a reseat

[sterile wave]

https://youtu.be/mDAwrlBOS_E

If u watch this video, u can see where it makes a difference

[sour violet]

is it a 3rd gen ryzen chip going into a b450 @timid nacelle

[sterile wave]

Essentially, will the games you want to play push the 2080 to max usage well before cpu

It's hard to answer will X bottleneck Y

And that's good that it works after reset :D

Reseat

[timid nacelle]

@sour violet no it was a gpu issue not a cpu issue

And it’s 2nd gen Ryzen in b450

[sterile wave]

Let's hope for no more odd behavior 🤞

[timid nacelle]

Yea.

[eager chasm]

my CPU graph is missing ...

lol

[sterile wave]

🤔

[eager chasm]

it came back after I closed and opened it up again

[little osprey]

something isn’t working

it won’t display anything

[lyric thistle]

good to see nothing unusual is occurring

[little osprey]

sigh

[sterile wave]

Ruh roh

No display at all?

[little osprey]

nothing

[sterile wave]

GPU starting up? Fans spinning?

Make sure u have all cables plugged in

[little osprey]

wasn’t really able to see if the fans were spinning but the led in the logo lit up

so it had power

[eager chasm]

fans spinning is kinda important

[sterile wave]

CPU fan starting up?

Does anything spin/make noise when u start it

[little osprey]

the other fans were spinning

yeah

[sterile wave]

Oh ok

I would make sure all 6/8 pins are plugged into gpu

And cables are connected properly

And make sure fans are spinning

And see if u still get no signal

[little osprey]

should the hdmi cable be plugged into the gpu or mobo

[sterile wave]

GPU

U don't have an apu iirc

[little osprey]

yeah gpu fans are spinning

[sterile wave]

And monitor still says no signal?

[little osprey]

LETS GOO

i just reinstalled gpu

and we good

[sterile wave]

Nice

Yeah that's always the go to step after making sure cables weren't the issue

[eager chasm]

that a lot of CPU usage for a game .

[elfin remnant]

what game

[little osprey]

i just realized i probably should’ve gotten windows ready earlier

for a 3600x with ram set to 3600 what should my flck be

like how exactly does that work

it gives me the option for up to 3000

fclk**

[sterile wave]

1800

Basically each of ur sticks runs at 1800mhz

Hence the 3600mhz

So fclk should be set to 1800

[eager chasm]

@elfin remnant black desert

[elfin remnant]

ahhhh

whats the Brand of the desk @compact latch

do you know?

[compact latch]

Tbh idk it came from home Depot it's a $400-500 that my parents got for a amazing deal

[elfin remnant]

Ahhh, i wondered ive been lookin for a L just like that

[compact latch]

Well it's at home Depot it's hella nice man

[tight bluff]

Thats a nice L

This cost me £110-115ish on Amazon 4-5 years ago

And it really does feel cheap. But its a lot of desk area for the money

[compact latch]

I was looking at those before my parents bought this one.

@elfin remnant the brand is Realspace Magellan 59"L-Shaped Desk, Gray

[elfin remnant]

Thank you!

[compact latch]

No problem

[brazen veldt]

Can some one help me everything is turning on accept my ram

[sacred obsidian]

what do you mean everything is turning on except your ram?

[tight bluff]

Do you mean the RGB on your ram isnt turning on, or its not detecting the ram in the bios?

[brazen veldt]

That and i cant even get into my bios

[sacred obsidian]

how many sticks of ram do you have vs how many slots?

[brazen veldt]

2 rgb 2 non both 16gb

[sacred obsidian]

take em both out, reseat one and make sure its all the way in on both ends and try again

it could just not be seated properly

[round flare]

are you sure it doesn't go in slot 1 and 3

[brazen veldt]

Ive tryed that already

[sacred obsidian]

oh yeah it should be in slot 1and 3

[brazen veldt]

The rgb ram is in slot 1 and 3 and the non are in slot 2 and 4

[round flare]

It depends

on the mobo

[sacred obsidian]

huh i didnt know that.

[round flare]

wait you have different sticks

You can't mix sticks

[sacred obsidian]

you have tried only using one stick?

[round flare]

no he has 2 kits in there

[sacred obsidian]

you can mix sticks but they have to be the same specs

[round flare]

look at the picture

you can't mix them cause of dyes and stuff

[brazen veldt]

Im swapping theme from another biuld and the 2 sticks mixed perfectly before

[sacred obsidian]

my old mobo has 3 diff brands of sticks in it and it runs fine lol

[round flare]

that's lucky

try only one kit

[sacred obsidian]

try one and make sure it works by itself

[round flare]

this too

the slots could be dead

[sacred obsidian]

also once you do that go into your bios and make sure its not trying to set the ram to like 3200 if its not 3200 ram. my cousin gave me a mobo but he set his ram from auto to 3200 which even though im using 3200, was causing the pc to not boot

if you think that might be a problem you can turn off the PSU switch, unplug it, and pull the battery from the mobo for 10-20 minutes and it should reset the bios to default. then you should go into your bios and try a bios update as well if its not up to date (idk what mobo you have) and then just try one stick of ram at a time and make sure none are dead.

[brazen veldt]

Nothing

[sacred obsidian]

is the mobo new?

[brazen veldt]

Ya

[sacred obsidian]

okay and you put a ram stick in slot 1 by itself?

[brazen veldt]

Yes in slot 1

[sacred obsidian]

how much power does your psu put out

[little osprey]

Start with 1 stick in the farthest slot from the cpu

[brazen veldt]

850

[sacred obsidian]

try reseating your gpu, make sure cpu and mobo power pins are connected all the way

also can you take a better and clearer pic of your mobo

[brazen veldt]

The gpu is turning on i dont think i. Need to reseat it

[sacred obsidian]

the gpu is powered by the psu so it could turn on, but basically you wanna make sure everything is seated and plugged in properly and fully

if none of that works you may have a DOA motherboard.

[brazen veldt]

Whats a doa

[tight bluff]

Dead on arrival.

[brazen veldt]

No the mobo lights up

[tight bluff]

Yes, but it could have something dead on it preventing it from actually posting. CPU slot, ram slots may be screwed, anything really.

[sacred obsidian]

that doesnt mean it isn't dead. my cousin just got one and we determined it was DOA even though we got it to post all the way to windows because there was stuff wrong with it that can't be fixed

[brazen veldt]

So like the s
Dimm slots could be bad

[tight bluff]

I wouldnt say its likely your mobo is dead though. Its just the possibility if no other trouble shooting finds anything wrong with the parts, in which case RMA.

[brazen veldt]

Should it try the battery pull out

[tight bluff]

Yeah.

+cmos

+resetcmos

There was some command for that

Maybe it was another discord.

[sacred obsidian]

turn off the power, unplug psu, then pull the battery and wait 10-20 minutes for it to reset

[brazen veldt]

Should there be a cmos button becuase i dont have one

[sacred obsidian]

switch the ram stick, and make sure everything is properly seated. make sure the cpu and mobo power connectors are properly pushed all the way in too i've had it where it looks like its in but it wasnt

[brazen veldt]

The mobo pin feela good and the 12 pin cpu power connectpr feels like its in

[sacred obsidian]

did the clip go over on both?

[brazen veldt]

The psu come with four 4 pin cpu power cablea is that ok

[sacred obsidian]

is your mobo cpu pin connector only 4 pin?

[brazen veldt]

No its 12 so i have 3 of themin

[sacred obsidian]

take a picture?

[little osprey]

Wanna share a pic?

[brazen veldt]

Of the cables in or the mobo by itself

https://images.app.goo.gl/7aVBZTVWZ6khMRmU9

[sacred obsidian]

so it looks like you need 12 pin connectors but you only have 8 in?

[brazen veldt]

No it seperated it 8 pin then a 4 pin next to that so i have 3 4pin connectors in

[sacred obsidian]

okay so what you should have is a single wire that splits into 2 4pin

[little osprey]

That's good news - no 6+2's there are there?

[sacred obsidian]

what psu do you have?

wait no looking again it looks right

[brazen veldt]

Evga 850w supernova g5

[sacred obsidian]

ok make sure the far left one is pushed in all the way i could be wrong but that one looks a little off. but other than that i think that should be fine? might do well by unplugging and reseating just in case?

[brazen veldt]

Ok i think there in i just checked

[sacred obsidian]

okay have you removed power and battery?

[brazen veldt]

No

[sacred obsidian]

oh do that

do you wanna get on VC to try to troubleshoot at all?

[brazen veldt]

I think i wanna to get in vc if the battery swap doesnt work

[sacred obsidian]

mk

brb

[brazen veldt]

Ok thank you

[sacred obsidian]

im back

[sacred obsidian]

@brazen veldt any luck?

[blazing siren]

Hey guys so my friend built a pc finally
Problem is he can't install windows to his ssd.
does anyone know the causes of this error message?

[sterile wave]

Had the disk been previously partitioned

Has*

[blazing siren]

its new out of the box

[sterile wave]

OK I don't remember if it was the exact same issue, but I had a similar problem in the summer with installing windows on a fresh out of box ssd

Try reformatting the ssd into gpt format

Ull have to Google how to do it, it's nothijg fancy, just a couple commands in cmd

Also

I'm bios make sure ahci is enabled

To allow for sata booting

As well as m.2 ports

If it's an m.2 ssd

Actuslly yeah just worry abo7t the bios settings

The first thing I mentioned is a diff issue

Upon some further research

[elfin raven]

look into AHCI settings

drive may be set to IDE mode

or vice versa

[brazen veldt]

My system will turn on then right off @sacred obsidian

[sacred obsidian]

im pretty sure your mobo is doa where did you buy it from

[brazen veldt]

Amazon

[sacred obsidian]

I would contact them and tell them its doa and you need a replacement.

[brazen veldt]

Does the oreantataiton of the battery have to exactly perfect as it was before

[sacred obsidian]

no as long as plus as positive side remains facing down

wait what cpu do you have

[brazen veldt]

Never mind its working as before now but there a yellow light now does that mean something

[sacred obsidian]

where is the yellow light? near the gpu?

[brazen veldt]

No it on the motherbaord therea a boot vga cpu and dram one its next to dram

[sacred obsidian]

i mean thats pretty normal mine has lights too but my old one didnt so idk what that means unless its an indication of those things are recieving power

so when you put your cpu in, what steps did you take

do you wanna get on gen1 VC?

[brazen veldt]

Wait in the manual it says if yellow lights are on it means that its not working properly whick means there has to be a problem with the ram

[sacred obsidian]

yup according to google yellow or amber light means something isn't working properly lol woops something in mine isnt either i guess

[brazen veldt]

Ok we reaseated and the light went away but still no boot

[sacred obsidian]

whats it doing now

[brazen veldt]

The gpu fans are flickering

They keep going on then off

[sacred obsidian]

what steps did you take to put in the cpu

also not all lights are bad so mines fine apparently. first mobo with lights. neat.

[brazen veldt]

The motherbaord looks like it reads the cpu is fine but the gpu fans are going on and off tho

[sacred obsidian]

Try taking out the gpu completely and plugging the display into the mobo

Do you have on board graphics

[brazen veldt]

Ryzen no onbaord

[sacred obsidian]

Hmm

Do you have another gpu?

[brazen veldt]

No i did but i sold it and i thinks it fine it fine on my old biuld im just swapping it

[quartz cairn]

wait on the msi b450 tomahawk? right now it's $115 but 2 days ago it was $100

[sacred obsidian]

Did you already reseat amd replygg the gpu?

[brazen veldt]

Ya had to when replacing battery

[sacred obsidian]

Was it flickering before?

[brazen veldt]

Ya

Should i check the psu side of the gpu cable

[sacred obsidian]

Yes

Check all the gpu cables

[brazen veldt]

Only have one

[sacred obsidian]

But I’m pretty sure mobo needs to be replaced

Wait it’s not modular

[brazen veldt]

No it is i just only need one ime using a 1070

[sacred obsidian]

Oh yeah I mean all the other cables as well for the rest of the system

[brazen veldt]

Oh

[sacred obsidian]

last thing i can tell you is check the cpu pins and make sure none are bent or anything and it seats without resistance, other than that you gotta replace the mobo

im assuming the mobo is the only new item right

[brazen veldt]

Mobo cpu and psu

[sacred obsidian]

oh well those are the 3 likely culprit

ok and you lined up the cpu using the arrows properly and you didnt have to push it in right

[brazen veldt]

The motherbaord doesnt have a failure led on cpu.vga.dram , or boot

[sacred obsidian]

but does it boot at all?

[brazen veldt]

👎

[sacred obsidian]

so somethings obviously not working right

is this your first pc build

[brazen veldt]

2nd

[sacred obsidian]

did you do first by yourself?

[brazen veldt]

No me and my dad same with this one

[sacred obsidian]

okay so the cpu was seated properly with no force right?

[brazen veldt]

Ya i checked that to if i did it wrong it feels good

[sacred obsidian]

okay what all happens when you turn on your pc

or attempt to

[brazen veldt]

Everything seems turn on accept ram

[sacred obsidian]

and no post right

like nothing at all?

you can try unplugging everything you dont need

so like

[brazen veldt]

Like hard drives

[sacred obsidian]

unplug the hard drives or m.2s or disk drives and anything like that, unplug the fans, literally only have one ram stick in dmm1, psu, mobo, and cpu plugged in

see if it posts then

oh leave your CPU fan plugged in just in case

[brazen veldt]

Did got nothing

[muted patio]

What motherboard?

[brazen veldt]

Asus tuf x570 motherbaord

[muted patio]

What slots are your ram sticks in?

[brazen veldt]

1 and it a corsair vengence rgb pro

[muted patio]

Slot furtherst to the right?

Or furthest from the CPU?

[brazen veldt]

Ya

[sacred obsidian]

also apparenltly try only using the 8pin connector on the mobo

[brazen veldt]

Furthest from the right

[muted patio]

Thats' fine

I have that motherboard

[hollow willow]

help

i need help

[muted patio]

Only using the 8 pin slot

[hollow willow]

my computer has the broken

[brazen veldt]

Are you using a 3700x

[muted patio]

Ye

[hollow willow]

yes

[brazen veldt]

So i can just use the 8 pin not all 12

[muted patio]

Yes

[little osprey]

Yes

[hollow willow]

yes

[muted patio]

If the DRAM light is lit, could be cpu/mobo/ram. So, try another RAM slot

One at a time

If they all fail, try another stick. If that fails, you're down to CPU or motherboard

[brazen veldt]

No the dram was lit but reseated the ram and it went off

[sacred obsidian]

i think he already tested the different slots

[muted patio]

I missed that in my back read

[sacred obsidian]

so cpu or mobo

[muted patio]

SO no lights but nothing on the screen?

[sacred obsidian]

yeh thats what he said earlier

and something about gpu fan flickering

[muted patio]

Try a different video output on the card then

Not a mobo issue if none of the lights are on, most likely

[sacred obsidian]

from what he said earlier, he got a new psu, mobo and cpu

everything else worked fine before

[brazen veldt]

Can we get in vc so i can use my camera

[sacred obsidian]

i dont have much time left

[brazen veldt]

Oh yikes

[sacred obsidian]

also i got background noise if thats cool ill jump in

[elfin raven]

i can video chat after i get off work tonight in 5 hrs

[brazen veldt]

No its fine you dont have to just thought it could maybe help

[muted patio]

What is the system doing, boot but no video then? No lights on the motherboard?

[sacred obsidian]

it would help but im pretty sure you ahve a dead mobo or cpu

but without seeing it it's hard to tell

[brazen veldt]

No lighta on motherbaord but lights on gpu are lighting up like they should

[muted patio]

CPU fan spinning on the Wraith?

[brazen veldt]

Ya it wasnt until i reseated the battery

[muted patio]

Unplug ALL of the front panel connectors except for the power switch

From the motherboard

[brazen veldt]

Even usb 3 ore no

[muted patio]

All of them

[brazen veldt]

Ok then

[muted patio]

Only leave the power switch connected

[sacred obsidian]

or you could unplug that too and touch a screwdriver to power + and - together and that also turns it on lol

learned that from linus

[brazen veldt]

What video did who that in

[sacred obsidian]

what

[brazen veldt]

Sorry what video did linus do that in i watch most of his videos

[sacred obsidian]

whenever hes building and tests before putting it in a case or when its on a test bench he touches a screwdriver to + and - and it turns on. i tried it for the first time last week when building my cousins pc lol

[brazen veldt]

Nothong im displaying to a tv to test does that affect anything

[sacred obsidian]

uh yeah that actually can cause issues but rarely. do you have a normal monitor

[muted patio]

Try a different HDMI out on the card

[sacred obsidian]

ive had that issue before where it just didnt display to tv right away

[brazen veldt]

My 1070 has 1 hdi 3 display and 1 dvi

And i dont have displaty ports on me

[sacred obsidian]

do you have a DVI monitor?

i doubt thats the issue but you never know

[brazen veldt]

Ya tryed that yesterday didnt work

[muted patio]

I would just mash the DEL key on boot to see if you can get into the BIOS and have it show on the TV

Give the TV something to display

[brazen veldt]

I dont even get anything it say no signal

[sacred obsidian]

smash del and give it a bit

[muted patio]

If no lights are on the motherboard and the GPU fans are spinning, odds are the issue in the GPU, Cable or TV

If the CPU was dead the CPU light would be on

[brazen veldt]

No its same cable i use for my switch

My frie d uses tv for his computer when he comes over and that works fine

And gpu worked fine in my last biuld that im swapping it over from

[muted patio]

That doesn't always mean anything

[brazen veldt]

How doea that work

[muted patio]

Honestly, try hitting the DEL button for a bit

Until you think you're in the BIOS

then switch through the inputs on the TV

[sacred obsidian]

yeah ive upgraded my pc before and it wouldn't post for me but it was the tv thing. only one upgrade has ever had the issue though

[muted patio]

see if you get an image

[brazen veldt]

Ok let me plug in a keybaord

[sacred obsidian]

alright i gotta bounce. good luck

[muted patio]

👋

[brazen veldt]

Doesnt give power to motherbaord

[muted patio]

What doesn't give power to the motherboard?

[brazen veldt]

Sorry meant keybaord

[muted patio]

So is it RGB and doesn't light up or something?

[brazen veldt]

No the keybaord is rgb and lights not evan capslock and stuff like that

[muted patio]

SO the RGB lights? Just not capslock and things?

[brazen veldt]

No thothing lights up

[muted patio]

Are you using a front panel USB or motherboard in the back?

[brazen veldt]

Mobo

[muted patio]

This is a new CPU and motherboard?

[brazen veldt]

Yes

Just got 3700x and the mobo

[muted patio]

And RAM or old ram?

[brazen veldt]

I got the rgb ram in october and non rgb ive had for years

[muted patio]

Install the new RAM in the proper slots. Unplug the power cable from the back and reset the CMOS or pull the batter and reset the CMOS. If this doesn't work, I'd pull the CPU and check for bent or missing pins. What power supply?

[brazen veldt]

Evga supernova g5 850w

[muted patio]

That should be fine

[brazen veldt]

Ive reset the cmos already

[muted patio]

Reseat the GPU maybe? I mean, if the CPU had bent pins the CPU light should be on

[brazen veldt]

No the cpu light is off so it doeant reconize any problems

[muted patio]

And when you power it on, the fans stay running?

Or spin and shut off

[brazen veldt]

The fans stay accept the gpu ones they go on and. Off

[muted patio]

ON and off is fine, it's probably build into the GPU. Silent mode. Where they only come on when it gets warm

At this point, It really sounds like your HDMI cable or TV. Everything should be fine in the computer

What do you have plugged into the USB ports?

[brazen veldt]

Now nothing

[muted patio]

Try a different HDMI port on the TV?

SOmetimes they have an HDMI IN and OUT and mixed them up?

[brazen veldt]

Did that nothing

If the cpu power cables where wrong the mobo led would be lit right

[muted patio]

Possibly. What do you mean by wrong?

All it needs is the 8 Pin CPU power

Did you plug the PCI-E power in there by mistake?

[brazen veldt]

No i know becuase on the cables its self says cpu and there 2 4pin split

[muted patio]

Do you have a different GPU, PSU to try?

It seems like everything should be working

[brazen veldt]

No only have one gpu and the psu light turns on and the ram still doesnt light up

[muted patio]

PSU light doesn't always mean anything either

If you have another power supply I'd try it

Otherwise it might be a dead motherboard. If the RGB ram isn't lighting up.

[brazen veldt]

Also when i press the power button it turns on

I think the dimm slots might be bad

The ram worked fine on last biuld

Evan the old ram

[muted patio]

That's either motherboard or CPU then

I'd pull the CPU and check for bent pins though

Just in case

[brazen veldt]

Shouldn't the cpu led be on then

[muted patio]

Depends on which pins are bent

[brazen veldt]

Oh yikes

Bent pins would effect if the ram turns on?

[muted patio]

hard to say. But since you have to take it all apart to RMA the motherboard, check the CPU anyway.

I still think testing another power supply might be a good idea too

Borrow one if you have to

[stark spruce]

Looking at buying a PSU for an HTPC build
Ryzen 2200G
MSI B450-A Pro
16GB 2666MHz
2TB 7200rpm WD black HDD

Since I’ll be mainly using it for watching movies and other videos I will be forgoing a dedicated GPU for now. I would like the leave room to add a GPU or potentially upgrade the CPU later down the road. Would a 450W PSU be sufficient or should I go for a 550W?

[lime forge]

450 will be sufficient

since theres no gpu

could probably get away with even less

but 450 is good

[proud helm]

Uh no. If he wants to add a gpu down the road plus the cpu at least a 600w power supply for even more upgradable room

I have a 850w with a rx 580 and r7 1700x to guarantee future proof for years

its just less work

@stark spruce

[stark spruce]

I’d only be looking at potentially adding a mild GPU like a 1650/1660

[proud helm]

yes then a 600w will be perfect trust me

https://www.amazon.com/Supply-Modular-Bronze-GAMEMAX-VP-600-M-RGB/dp/B07SH7DHBS/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=600w+power+supplyu\&qid=1577410745&sr=8-1

This is a cheap but very good quality power supply

It has rgb lighting too!

[eager chasm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9206E_rOduU

^ dear people who haven't put their Christmas parts together yet

[stark spruce]

I was looking at one of these PSUs
https://www.newegg.com/antec-neoeco-550-gold-ne550g-550w/p/N82E16817371121?Item=N82E16817371121
https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-prime-ultra-gold-ssr-550gd2-550w/p/N82E16817151207?Item=N82E16817151207

[polar holly]

I recommend the second of the two it is a much more solid option and much more reliable

[stark spruce]

I was leaning towards that one

[polar holly]

However I have only ever used the sea sonic I have never used the antec.

[stark spruce]

The seasonic is cheaper with the rebate, fully modular and has a longer warranty. I've only used corsair and evga PSU's in the past. I've heard good things about seasonic and antec though

[polar holly]

I have used everything except antec of the four. I most enjoy seasonic out of them all. As they are very high class and very reliable. With good warranty

[stark spruce]

Good to know! I think that has solidified my decision to go with the seasonic

Plus its a good looking PSU, in my opinion at least

[polar holly]

I personally have the fanless version and it is amazing

[cloud dome]

would a 5700 xt be better than a 2060 super?

[polar holly]

Depends on what your using it for

[cloud dome]

gaming

just that tbh

[polar holly]

Are you going to use it to encode stream or just game on it

[cloud dome]

im just going to game on it

[polar holly]

If just gaming the performance will be better on the 5700xt

[cloud dome]

i wouldn't ever use ray tracing anyway so yeah

[polar holly]

Then yes go with a very solid built 5700xt

[cloud dome]

but which manufacturer do i go with

[polar holly]

How much are you looking to spend

[little osprey]

Guys

[cloud dome]

my rig is about 1500 usd

anything around that price

[little osprey]

Should I buy a 2060 with a 9400f

[polar holly]

I mean purely for this one part

[little osprey]

Or 1660ti and 9600k

[cloud dome]

go with amd tbh

[little osprey]

Ok

[polar holly]

@little osprey what budget are you looking at

[cloud dome]

and a 2060 is better than a 1660 ti

[little osprey]

$1600 aud

Or like around $1000 usd

[cloud dome]

1100 usd

[little osprey]

Ok

I'll put pics in build pics

[polar holly]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/9wVmL2

heres a full build @little osprey

@cloud dome you never did say how much are you looking to spend on the gpu

[cloud dome]

@polar holly i would go for anything tbh

[polar holly]

do you have a build list or already have the parts

[cursive wharf]

@proud helm It's an HTPC, not a high end gaming rig. So 450w is fine. Not to mention getting a cheap 850w is bad as opposed to a good 550w
@stark spruce So a few things. Antec is good, however provides some 💩 PSUs just like any other brand. Neoeco is real bad. Never go by brand. You just want a standard modular PSU I assume?

[cloud dome]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VHKJn7

[polar holly]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/myfn27 look at this

[old charm]

so I'm pretty sure it just takes a long time for my pc to start up/wake up

anyone else experiece this?

[little osprey]

There's a pic of the parts list

[stark spruce]

@cursive wharf a standard modular PSU is fine. I may add a 1650/1660 down the road so I was looking at getting this PSU https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-prime-ultra-gold-ssr-550gd2-550w/p/N82E16817151207?Item=N82E16817151207

[polar holly]

@little osprey that mobo is inccompatible with the cpu

[proud helm]

@polar holly no its not its compatible

[cursive wharf]

@stark spruce I'd get this tbh https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/bqVD4D/corsair-rmx-2018-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020177-na

[cursive wharf]

also that's CA

[little osprey]

Yeah it's compatible

[cursive wharf]

whoops

[cloud dome]

thats a bit too much for me tbh, id rather go with a ryzen 5

[polar holly]

the list i sent is less than your original

[little osprey]

Oh ok

[polar holly]

cost

[cloud dome]

not where i live

[polar holly]

ohh thats fair i dont know exactly that. that is fine get whats best for you

[cloud dome]

the ryzen 7 3700x is 150 usd more expensive

[little osprey]

Wait that a bad pic

[polar holly]

@cloud dome are you in NA

[cursive wharf]

@stark spruce Yeah that's good

[little osprey]

Is that better

[thorn jolt]

Any experts here on CPU coolers? I am looking for a good thermal resolution for an intel i9-9820X Skylake X 10-Core 3.3 GHz (4.1 GHz Turbo) LGA 2066 chip

[stark spruce]

@cursive wharf I was actually looking at that PSU too since I've used corsair in the past. The seasonic just so happens to be on sale making it a little cheaper.
Thanks for your input! 🙂

[cloud dome]

i live in europe

[cursive wharf]

@stark spruce Yeah, RN it's the cheapest of its quality

so good buy

[polar holly]

Then i reccomend the powercooler red devil 5700xt

[cloud dome]

yeah

it goes for 20 usd more

but thats not much tbh

[polar holly]

yeah and imo thats one of the best built 5700xt out there

[cloud dome]

for the performace boost it gives

alright then i'll be looking to buy it asap

[polar holly]

glad to help

[cloud dome]

thanks

[little osprey]

My friend built a pc

And his pc just randomly turns off

Only when the gpu is under load tho

What could it be

[polar holly]

It’s possibly overheating, or power tripping itself

[little osprey]

All the temp readings are good

[proud helm]

@little osprey maybe not enough power?

[little osprey]

He has 750w

He has the same build as me and i use 650w

Except his has 2 more fans then me

[cursive wharf]

Which PSU model? @little osprey

[proud helm]

lol @cursive wharf

which one

[round river]

My frames drop when I start screen recording. Do I need a better GPU or cpu?
I have ryzen 3 2200g and RX 570

[cursive wharf]

Those components won't work well for recording. Not enough cores for CPU encoding and GPU encoder sucks on AMD

[stoic island]

Sooo upgrade CPU first, since your GPU won't help

I wish my build looked good enough for me to post in #build-pics

But theres a mess of wires

And I had to do some creative maneuvering for my CPU cooler

[little osprey]

Well, I fixed my issue got my pc running annnnnnnnd my audio is messed up

just constant hissing in my right ear

@cursive wharf the corsair cx750m

[cursive wharf]

how old is the PSU@little osprey

[little osprey]

Its a new build

All new parts

[cursive wharf]

So my guess then is either a lemon PSU or GPU

test with your PSU if that's possible as it should work

[little osprey]

Is your bios up to date?

You need a good bios and is the card new from factory? or new online

and or store

because online they can just give you an open box and lie about it

[stoic island]

So can they in store

But trusted retailers are trusted for a reason

[little osprey]

New from factory

I7-9700k psu

And 2080 super gpu

[cursive wharf]

Why not 3700x and 2080Ti?

[little osprey]

so uh, a psu is a power supply

Cpu i mean

Lol

lmao

and intel is better for gaming at the moment

[stoic island]

Hei stop attacking people for their decisions

[little osprey]

and super is cheaper

[cursive wharf]

Intel is better when you dont worsen your GPU

[little osprey]

Intel is better at singe thread applications

Ahem Ahem games

[cursive wharf]

9700k+2080S vs 3600+2080TI
Which is better?
same budget

[stoic island]

2080S is still a bit better price to performance than 2080ti

[little osprey]

Which cost more?

[stoic island]

9700k 2080S I'd say

[little osprey]

People aren't made of money he can spend his money the way he wants

[stoic island]

2080ti might get held back slightly by the ryzen cpu

[little osprey]

So i should have him run a game with just the cpu to see if its the cpu

[stoic island]

Pure games

[little osprey]

I would just run diagnostics and see if it actually works, if you already havent

[cursive wharf]

No, the CPU gains a very slight perf for 9700k. Sure the 3600 is slightly worse but that GPU would push itself more

[little osprey]

Yeah but you also need fast ram\

[cursive wharf]

which is cheap

[little osprey]

extra $100

[cursive wharf]

lol no

extra $20

[little osprey]

lol yes

Ok show me 3600, 16gb ram for $20

[stoic island]

You still need ram for intel

[cursive wharf]

16gb 3000 CL16 is $51 and 16gb 3600 CL16 for $71

[little osprey]

not that fast of ram

[cursive wharf]

also EXTRA $20, not straight $20

[little osprey]

for amd you need way faster ram for the performance boost

[stoic island]

Um yes, it doesn't affect it as much, but ram speed still matters for intel

[little osprey]

also, most people don't buy new ram they just use what they have if it's ddr4

[stoic island]

Its not like 4000mhz c14 ram is same speed as 2133mhz c18 ram even in an intel build

[cursive wharf]

Nor is it a 20000% perf boost like you seem to imply it is with how much you are complaining about it

it's a couple %

[little osprey]

Ill hav him run it nd get bak to u

[stoic island]

Its a couple of frames pretty sure

[little osprey]

Hei its a 10% performance boost

it's pretty big

[cursive wharf]

I assume in just one game because it isnt that much on average

[stoic island]

I'll do a test when I get home, I have 16gb c18 3200mhz and 32gb c16 3600mhz on hand

[little osprey]

No, its on cinebench and games

[cursive wharf]

As 1111 said, a few frames

[stoic island]

The difference I noticed upgrading ram isnt too big

[little osprey]

I have a 3800x and a i7 9700k, the 3800x works pretty head to head with the 9700k if you have fast ram, but if you have average ram the 9700k wins by a bit

well had a 3800x

[cursive wharf]

The point is to save a couple hundred on GPU to spend more on GPU, as I said 2080S to 2080Ti. Small perf boost, but bigger than R5 3600 to 9700k

[stoic island]

I have a 3800x also :p

[little osprey]

Well it depends on what you're doing

gaming or video editing/rendering

or both

[stoic island]

2080S to 2080ti afaik is like 400$, r5 3600 to 9700k is like 200$...

[little osprey]

exactly

it's not helpful at all

[final knot]

Anyone here experienced in x570 raids?

[cursive wharf]

consider mobo as well

and CPU cooler

that isnt just a $200 difference

[stoic island]

2080S Is around 600, 2080ti is around 1000. 3600 is around 200, 9700k I dont remember but prob around 400$

[cursive wharf]

2080S is $700

[little osprey]

I got a 9700k for $290 wym

new

[stoic island]

I need to check that

I remember putting a 600$ 2080S into someones partpicker list :p

[cursive wharf]

I see one game get a close to 10% difference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHJ16hD4ysk&t=506s

[little osprey]

it's $330 on best buy of all places right now

[cursive wharf]

the rest is a small bit

3600 is $190 and 9700k is $340

[little osprey]

Still noticeable

also still depends on what you're doing

[stoic island]

Oh its really 700$ for 2080S

[little osprey]

It's all in what brand you choose as well

[cursive wharf]

For intel you then get a pricier mobo and CPU cooler

[stoic island]

Tho 2080ti is 1100$

[prime spear]

i just bought a 2060 super for 500 with tax

[stoic island]

Still a 400$ difference

[little osprey]

indeed

[cursive wharf]

$1050 for 2080Ti

[little osprey]

If you get the cheapest of cheap yeah...

[stoic island]

I'm seeing 1099 cheapest :p

[little osprey]

exactly

Like you're buying a really underclocked card if its $1050

[cursive wharf]

same said for 2080S?

cheapest of cheapest is $690

[stoic island]

(As you can see my price comparisons are from the cheapest I can find)

~700 to ~1100

[little osprey]

big boi prices

Also if you want to factor in mobo prices... Amd 300 series motherboards are more expensive then intels I believe

[stoic island]

Ehhh

You can use b450 boards tho

[cursive wharf]

^

[little osprey]

True, But it's the same price as intel if you go with b450 boards

[deft kiln]

guys

[stoic island]

Like afaik intel board doesnt even have like pcie 4.0 and wifi 6 thats on x570 boards

[deft kiln]

https://www.ple.com.au/Products/627268/PLE-Custom-AMD-Ryzen-AM4-Desktop-PC-System/E0buPaZHxXrq

[stoic island]

Ye?

[deft kiln]

is that a good build

im aussie

so it looks expensicve

[cursive wharf]

decent Intel board is more than decent AMD board

[stoic island]

Umm

[little osprey]

wym @cursive wharf

nzxt h510 hd audio cable hissing

[still roost]

Mikerophonez#7331 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[cursive wharf]

oof

[little osprey]

Yup

[cursive wharf]

F

[little osprey]

Don't mind that lmao

[deft kiln]

f