building-and-recc-chat

[jaunty karma]

Just need 6 weeks

Already tried it

It works fine

[eager chasm]

Ok >.<

[jaunty karma]

Dude the ones who build my pc gave me anxiety

They where doing things wrong

Cable management is a nightmare

[eager chasm]

You didn't build it yourself? 🤔 did it cost money to have them build it for you?

[jaunty karma]

No

Free 😄

[eager chasm]

Well you get what you pay for

[jaunty karma]

Dude they attach the shield on the motherboard and they put it

When they attached the heatsink it wasnt a cross style

[eager chasm]

Why not do it yourself?

XD

[jaunty karma]

They wiring

The*

I might get it wrong

I dont wana destroy my pc

[eager chasm]

... the wiring is the easy part

[humble lava]

@left gazelle https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7hWt3t i would think that this is a much more reasonable build and its is around $600 cheaper the price you had before

[jaunty karma]

And dont forget im a first timer

[eager chasm]

Everything is keyed

So got to start somehwere

[jaunty karma]

Ok need to catch some Zs see ya

11:18 pm

[eager chasm]

Prodigy, any reason there is a 2070 super in that list over a 5700XT?

[humble lava]

forgot about it

[eager chasm]

Lol

[humble lava]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/24ygn7

$700 cheaper

[left gazelle]

whats the difference between a rtx and a rx

[eager chasm]

The 5700XT is just the better value card like $100 cheaper than the 2070 super for only a few frames difference

[humble lava]

the rx has a clock speed of 1650 mhz

[little osprey]

Rtx is Nvidias ray tracing GPUs which are more expensive but better and RX is AMDs line up of Radeon GPUs for a lower budget @left gazelle

[left gazelle]

im going for rtx

[humble lava]

and the rtx has a clock spped of 1605mhz and is cheper

well go for the first link i put up

@left gazelle https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7hWt3t

[eager chasm]

The clock speeds don't matter between the two, they aren't comparable like that

[left gazelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cKYNzN

[eager chasm]

Going for the RTX 2700 Super is basically paying $100 more for like 5 more FPS and Ray tracing which is in like 5 games and barely makes them look better while massively cutting FPS

[little osprey]

Bruh

[eager chasm]

But if you really want to it's your money :)

Just wanna make sure you you are well informed about the value

[little osprey]

2080 ti vs the best AMD GPU is like a 30 frame difference in some games

[eager chasm]

2070

Super

That's the GPU we are taking about

And in that price range the difference is barely there for a $100 difference

[little osprey]

This is like a 50 frame difference in some games

And mostly 20 frame differences

So your paying 90 more dollars for 20 FPS increase

Which is a good deal in my opinion

[eager chasm]

Not to most people here

[little osprey]

I’m pretty sure most people here that are looking for a mid range card like these ones would pay 90 for 20 frame increase

Especially if they will be running 1440p

[eager chasm]

Actually it's been swinging the other way

More people are going for the 5700XT

[little osprey]

that’s because most people don’t have the money

[humble lava]

were just here to help and give advice and information

[left gazelle]

lol

[eager chasm]

Even for people with the money usually a +15% performance increase isnt worth the about +24% price increase.

But that's up to the individual, to some it's worth it and that's fine

.... Sad realization... I might have to use power tools to take apart my build...

There is a broken screw in the Blu-ray player

I'll leave the DVD player for my sister

[indigo crow]

Any cheap decent white cable extensions

[left gazelle]

how about htis new list for the ryzen 9

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zQ89CL

[eager chasm]

🤔 still don't need such an expensive board, but whatever floats your boat

Looks good

[left gazelle]

i have an expensive board in the sense of future upgrades such as 2 way sli and more ram

cuz i plan to do rendering for school

[floral tree]

Anyone know of a good free virus scanner

[left gazelle]

and other 3d modeling stuff

i use AVG :/

[floral tree]

I got my computer to work again but it made me type in a code in order to unlock the computer

[eager chasm]

You'd thing the Ryzen 9 would be beefy enough for the rendering, but what do I know

Thats not my expertise

[floral tree]

Annd it crashed

[eager chasm]

I use bit defender, but that costs money

[indigo crow]

Astone know of good cable extensions

Looking for white

[eager chasm]

Maybe a cable mod pre-made kit instead of custom 🤔

[floral tree]

Ok it keeps freezing

[eager chasm]

That's all I can think of

@floral tree where did you get that Alienware?

[floral tree]

Off the dell website I believe

It was recommended by my IT guy

[eager chasm]

How long have you had it?

[floral tree]

Like 3 years

[eager chasm]

Oh RIP

[floral tree]

What

[eager chasm]

Either it's breaking down (highly likely) or you have major virus problem (also likely)

[floral tree]

Ok

[eager chasm]

Might be time to take the old girl out to pasture

[floral tree]

It’s sad BC I have malware Bytes on my laptop through my school but my PC doesn’t

Damn it froze again

[eager chasm]

Have you ever cleaned the inside?

[floral tree]

Should I put malewarebytes on a usb and copy it onto my PC

No. I have never opened it up. I guess I should do that

[eager chasm]

[left gazelle]

oof

[eager chasm]

Proper PC care my dude now I'm SURE it's hardware failer

Hell I dust mine every few months

[floral tree]

Damn ok

[eager chasm]

And clean the filters

[floral tree]

I feel so bad now. I neglected my pc

Also, is marble a fine work table material

[eager chasm]

Yes

(waiting for the horror show pic of the dust and grime)

[floral tree]

👍

[polar holly]

Just ordered more parts for a new itx build

[eager chasm]

Nice

[polar holly]

who else loves mini itx

[eager chasm]

I'm gonna make a $300 mini itx for homebrew nas

Eventually

Using the new athlon 3000G

[polar holly]

that proccesor will be great for that

[eager chasm]

Really don't need anything more than an athlon, hell that might be overkill xD

[polar holly]

yeah i am a bit overkill with my ns because i used old parts for it

old is relative

[eager chasm]

But when most decent enough NAS cost $300+ with no drives it seems like a better idea to make my own

[polar holly]

Yeah i built one my self using my old parts and some new drives

its the way to go just make sure you use server drives

[floral tree]

It’s really not that bad

[blissful bear]

What is that

[eager chasm]

He hasn't cleaned out his PC in 3 years so I thought that might be why it's dying

Maybe I was wrong XD

[floral tree]

Alienware x51 R3

[eager chasm]

Could just be dying for the sake of dying

[floral tree]

True

[eager chasm]

Time for an upgrade my dude

[floral tree]

I’m broke tho

😩

[eager chasm]

Or take it to a repair shop

[blissful bear]

Upgrade that Alienware then

Probably just one of the parts dead

[eager chasm]

Or upgrade...

[floral tree]

If I’m gonna upgrade I’m gonna make it myself

Prob the motherboard

[little osprey]

is going for a xeon build over a ryzen one a bad idea? the only problems i see are furture proofing and ddr3

[floral tree]

I mean gpu

I wish I could like move all the parts into a more upgrade case

[eager chasm]

Going for old Xeon is a decent choice for extreme budgets

[polar holly]

or apu

[eager chasm]

Well even old Xeon is cheaper than an APU, you just throw a really cheap GPU and PSU I it cause the rest of the system is like $20-35 bucks XD

[polar holly]

Yeah but then you still would need to overhaul later. so i usally stay way from it personally

[eager chasm]

True

[floral tree]

You think I could get a new case and get some new parts and transport the parts from my Alienware into the new case

[little osprey]

ive seen some of the old xeons not perform too far off from 9900k

[polar holly]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8TWcx6 like i just built that for one of my freinds for christmas as a surprise

[little osprey]

and,

im getting a 1060 for 50$

so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[polar holly]

Those are the higher end ones generally that are still kind of expensive

[floral tree]

What is the storage

For the 1060

[polar holly]

that is a gpu

[floral tree]

Yeah

[little osprey]

3GB

[floral tree]

Ah ok

[polar holly]

i think it was 3 or six but never buy the three they are awful and are at gddr5

or 5x

[eager chasm]

I mean if you are getting git for $50 sure but 3GB 1060 is out perform by a 1050Ti as soon as the VRAM is saturated

[polar holly]

I am more saying most titles suffer from it

[floral tree]

Ya think I can take out the optical drive and make more space

[little osprey]

imagine complaining about the vram on a 50$ 1060

if i really wanted to i could flip it and get a 1650S

[polar holly]

im more saying used market wise a ibelieve 1060 6gb sell for around 70

[eager chasm]

It's probably fine if you aren't playing anything remotely recent in the AAA tier of game

[floral tree]

Optical drive is useless

[eager chasm]

Hey... To you it is, I got a mountain of weeb discs and star trek to watch

[floral tree]

Ok

[eager chasm]

XD

[little osprey]

@polar holly 1060s 6GBs are 150$ used market.

[polar holly]

In what area

[little osprey]

the U.S

[polar holly]

l nah no way. i mean what area of the us

[little osprey]

...non in specfic? ebay.com...?

[polar holly]

and i assume you are only on craigslist when pulling these numbers many areas have local used market outside of websites.

I dont believe i have ever bought online for used parts

[little osprey]

..ok?

just because you use local market doesnt mean nobody would buy it off ebay for 120$

[floral tree]

Ok I did a virus scan and nothing came up. The computer also didn’t freeze so I think I’m good

Is 44 FPS in heaven benchmark good?

[muted patio]

Hardware?

[floral tree]

GTX 970

[eager chasm]

Grats on your PC all of a sudden coming back to life

[floral tree]

Thx

[muted patio]

-that's a decent score for the 970

[eager chasm]

Take better care of it XD

[muted patio]

Used to have one

[floral tree]

I literally just took out the optical drive and wiggled some things

But I guess sometimes that all it needs

[eager chasm]

Then maybe a cable came loose

[floral tree]

Yeah

Idk still want to build my own PC though

[eager chasm]

Grats on it not being catastrophically dead

Start saving up

[floral tree]

I’m getting a job this summer so that should help

I also might be able to sell the optical drive for like $25-$15

[eager chasm]

DVD opticals are a dime a dozen almost

We have a mountain of DVD drive e-waste in the shop

They work, but no one wants them, except me

[floral tree]

Oh

[eager chasm]

Blu-ray drives are worth more but still noone wants them

[floral tree]

Yep. It’s all digital now

[little osprey]

just get a usb one tbh

They're smaller, nicer looking, etc

Usually quieter, as well

[eager chasm]

But do they burn?

[floral tree]

Any know of a good website where I can download some more RAM /s

[eager chasm]

[little osprey]

oh no

please be memeing

oh my god

[floral tree]

I was. Did you se the /s

[little osprey]

Ohhh

I thought you meant RAM/s like a singular ram

[floral tree]

Oh

[little osprey]

because that would be a double wammy

[floral tree]

Yep

[eager chasm]

I prefer an in case optical, to me dongle drives look fugly

[little osprey]

As long as it's a nice thin one that you can easily hide the cord for

Maybe even case mod and put it inside of the case. Thin and takes less space up, more space for hdd

Ofc you'd have to figure out something for the eject button, if you didn't wanna eject from the button in file manager

[eager chasm]

I'm the odd ball I like my front panel optical

XD

[little osprey]

I thought a few times about taking my optical dvd drive to my new build

but like, at what cost? What do I do that needs it anymore?

I watched a movie on it once, but even at that my Xbox is hooked up to the TV and plays stuff just fine

[eager chasm]

A mountain of Weeb discs and the original Star Trek collection... I have a need

[little osprey]

lol

I have an instruction set that's on an Arduino robot set I got once that's DVD

but it's also downloadable from their site.

😠 frick

gtg doods

👋

[eager chasm]

Bye

[oblique karma]

Hi

[eager chasm]

Cute little board :)

Hi Juice

[oblique karma]

How are we doing today ?

[eager chasm]

Good gonna do 2 builds in just a bit

[oblique karma]

Awesome !

[eager chasm]

A case swap and a build in the old case

[oblique karma]

Anything exciting

[eager chasm]

Radeon VII and a 3700X

But that's the system that's being case swapped XD

The other is a 1060 6GB and a R7 1700

[oblique karma]

Nice

I’m on my way to a funeral

[eager chasm]

D: oh noes

Already have the core of the other system setup

[oblique karma]

Awww yizz

Did you get a deal on the proc during the Black Friday sales?

I totally missed out

[floral tree]

There’s always next year

[eager chasm]

Well I got the RAM, PSU for the lower end system and the new case for black friday

[oblique karma]

Thanks dook

[eager chasm]

In Cyber Monday i got the HDD for thr lower end system

The rest of the parts I already had

They are my old parts

[oblique karma]

Yeah I can’t wait to upgrade my i5 3550k

[eager chasm]

Respectable CPU but doesn't cut it for recent AAA titles

[oblique karma]

But my the time I upgrade my CPU, my 1080 will be weak sauce.

[eager chasm]

I can see why you'd want an upgrade

[oblique karma]

Yeah I’m gonna have to make a real capital investment at some point here and just upgrade everything.

I’ve always tried to do it spending the least amount possible me.

[eager chasm]

I upgraded my parts over time

As I could afford them

A decent PC is surprisingly affordable if you stretch the costs out over time

[oblique karma]

It’s not even about being affordable. I’m just cheap. Lol

Not to mention I’ve been really irritated with intel and their price gouging.

[eager chasm]

I cut my fair share of corners

[oblique karma]

It’s only as of late that they have competitive prices that even peeks my interests

[eager chasm]

Their prices might look competitive but their overall value is still bad

[oblique karma]

I think this is the most opportune time to buy an intel since AMD is putting the squeeze on intel for the short term.

[tame crystal]

Thoughts and opinions. Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master or ASUS Maximus XI Hero? It's for an i7-9700KF build

[oblique karma]

You can get a used i7 87xx for ~$200

[eager chasm]

I'd prefer the superior performance of a 3700X in the workloads you'd expect for an 8 core

🤔 interesting my new case actually comes with an optional buzer to put a mother board for beep codes

Not gonna use it

[stoic island]

Interesting

[eager chasm]

You'd think that would come with a board not a case lol

[stoic island]

Yea

Like theres a beep for CPU temp warning on mobos but

[eager chasm]

I've already sanity checked my temps hundreds of times

The PC puts out sooo much heat it makes me nervous but the temps are fine

I'm just not use to the amount of heat higher quality parts radiate

How I'm removing my Blu-ray Player with a broken off screw... Don't try this at home kids.

[stoic island]

alright

I mean fx chips radiated a lot of heat
without being high quality

[eager chasm]

it's mostly the Radeon VII being a furnace of a GPU

But it also gets results

[tame crystal]

For the price, how does that compare to Nvidia?

[eager chasm]

The price tonperformance was terribad at the start, it's a bit better after almost a year of driver updates... But it's technically discontinued sooo there's that

[tame crystal]

So support for it will start to dwindle then?

[eager chasm]

The support is strong, but they are getting harder to find

The 2080 is kinda still the better buy at that price

The main thing the Radeon VII has going for it is it's asinine VRAM solution

[tame crystal]

They are around the price of 2070 Supers on newegg

[eager chasm]

It future proofs it for ultra high res textures

You sure you mean the Radeon VII and 2070 super? cause there is a massive price difference between them

Like more than $200 difference

[tame crystal]

Yeah, Supers running from 510+

7

*7's are 550

[eager chasm]

No the Radeon VII

Not a 7

[tame crystal]

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007709 601328427

[eager chasm]

The VII is $699 msrp

Wtf o.o

[tame crystal]

Yeap

[eager chasm]

That is a bargain then

Just behind 2080 performance

[tame crystal]

So should I get the XFX one instead of a Super or 5700XT?

[eager chasm]

Holy crap I'm jelly of that price

At that price the VII is the value GPU there

That's the price they needed to be to be more successful

You never need to worry about VRAM again, even if you use 8K texture packs

[tame crystal]

Nice

[eager chasm]

Not sure about the FPS with 8K textures but the VRAM can take it XD

[tame crystal]

How well do they encode for streaming?

I've heard that Radeon's encoding software is janky

[eager chasm]

Like hot garbage, lean on a Ryzen 7 for encoding

[tame crystal]

Getting an R9

[eager chasm]

Even better

With such a high end CPU just use that for encoding over any GPU encoding

[little osprey]

Bruh wtf you guys talking about

[tame crystal]

AMD has so much potential to punch Nvidia, but they need a stronger software team

[little osprey]

The vii is horrible value

[eager chasm]

Look at the xfx redeon VII on New Egg, it's stupidly underpriced

[tame crystal]

https://www.newegg.com/xfx-radeon-vii-rx-vegma3fd6/p/N82E16814150820

550 for that

[little osprey]

Still not worth 550

You can buy the better 2070 super card for 500

[eager chasm]

After the driver updates the VII worked better than you'd expect

And if you like high res textures modding , like really high res VII

[little osprey]

It doesn’t look like it’s better at any rendering on the benchmark

Just nbody

Idk what that is

[eager chasm]

I recently got a 500 point bump in Time Spy

🤔

[little osprey]

You have the vii

?

[eager chasm]

Yes

500 point bump is quite the improvement

My favorite MMO recently went from 60 FPS to 100

I've been seeing lots of optimizations recently

[little osprey]

Rtx 2070 super which is cheaper has a 1000 point lead on the VII

[eager chasm]

Most VII benchmarks would be from before updates and optimizations, took them a while

I mean ot should have been optimized at launch better

But better late than never

The MSRP is still hot garbage, but after the optimizations it's actually not a terrible deal for that XFX

It may not be completely optimal but it's a lot more appealing than it has been

The joke about AMD having fine wine drivers is kinda true here XD

They just need to age a bit lol

[little osprey]

MSRP is 700 on the website

But you can find them for 550 on Newegg

[tame crystal]

Yep

[eager chasm]

Yea, the XFX is like $150 under MSRP

Though I am only a single user take my sudden massive performance jumps with a grain of salt

I'm just happy I'm finally getting something more worth

I also got $180 of free games with mine Soo I justified it to my self that I was buying a $520 card with some games

[oblique karma]

But can it run Crysis

Sorry, I had to make a boomer joke.

[tame crystal]

Crysis 3 Very High FXAA 4k. 51FPS

lol

[oblique karma]

Such optimized

I just want to be able to play PUBG without stuttering

[eager chasm]

Freesync monitors are cheaper than Gsync

Good bye stuttering

[oblique karma]

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=33821&gclid=Cj0KCQiArdLvBRCrARIsAGhB_szUii-z5uKR4ML1zlyLro8ni8rSw6ecMGKRTxRs5IENGfnqBDHX_EsaArUhEALw_wcB

Speaking of monitors

[eager chasm]

32" is the max size of monitor allowed at the LAN party I go to :o

[strange garden]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2890327014345358/ just found this on my local FB marketplace, does it seem like a good deal and should it play most games for a few years to come?

[eager chasm]

I don't like curved monitors but damn that first one's curve is minimal I could live with it

[oblique karma]

Not a good dea

Especially without knowing what kind of proc

[strange garden]

It’s a i7-7700k it has the specs in the ad

[oblique karma]

What do you not have ?

[eager chasm]

For 900 that's not a bad deal overall if you don't have any accessories

[strange garden]

I don’t have a PC been wanting to one for a while but haven’t had the $$

[eager chasm]

That's actually a pretty fair deal

[muted patio]

Ah, if you don't have monitors or anything else that's not a bad deal

[eager chasm]

The PC alone would be meh for that, but the bundle would be hard to beat

Not a bad machine for even high settings 1440p

And some 4K, maybe not in newer titles

[strange garden]

I’ve been wanting something that’s gonna be a decent upgrade to the ol’ Xbox one S In terms of performance and that I’m not going to have to upgrade to play games in a year. But I can’t decide if I want to wait for the next gen so prices come down a bit more and just build my own.

[eager chasm]

That PC will definitely be a lot better than that Xbox

[muted patio]

Honestly, that buyndle for $900 will keep you happy for quite a while

[polar holly]

It shouldnt need a upgrade for awhile.

[muted patio]

Waiting to buy new hardware is always a losing battle

[polar holly]

unless you want to

[eager chasm]

Since XBox games can be played on PC no reason not to get it

[polar holly]

only certain ones can be

[eager chasm]

anything can be played if you try hard enough

[muted patio]

Uh, Xbox Game Store has quite a few games in it. There's not a whole lot that can't TBH

[eager chasm]

Another reason I use optical drives

Heheh

[polar holly]

That doesnt help at all

[muted patio]

I haven't had an optical drive for probably 7 years lol

[eager chasm]

Then you aren't try hard enough

[trim heron]

How’s this

[eager chasm]

It's a bit of a process to rip games and convert them for legal emulation

But it's doable

[polar holly]

yes but most games now are multiplayer titles not allowing that function with a emulator

[eager chasm]

@trim heron looks good, I'd have to check that monitor cause that price range can get you a really bad monitor if you aren't careful

[trim heron]

Well my friend has one and it seems pretty good

He hasn’t had to many problems so far but if you have any suggestions I’d take them

[muted patio]

That's a 4ms panel. Might have some ghosting issues in games with a lot of movement

[eager chasm]

The size is also kinda small, but it's mostly a good panel

It's a decent budget monitor for the ultra low end

[little osprey]

I mean

you could always use

[eager chasm]

Parent got me a 16ms panel 😂

So atleast it's not THAT bad

[little osprey]

Bruhhh

even my monitor is 5ms

[trim heron]

Well I gotta get this by myself

I’m gonna have to work for this

[little osprey]

that's a beefy build

good luck bro

[strange garden]

Wait so if I own games on Xbox I can play them on PC?

[muted patio]

Sometimes

https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/xbox-play-anywhere

[indigo thicket]

no SSD 😢

can you possibly swing for a 500GB SSD? @trim heron about the same price as the 2TB HDD. then you can add a HDD later for extra storage

[trim heron]

Would that be better?

[polar holly]

it also depends if he needs that storage.

But if not it would be better to have a ssd

[trim heron]

Ok

I might do that then

[indigo thicket]

SSD makes a huge difference in how fast a computer feels

also you won't be loading maps for 2 minutes longer than everyone else when you play multiplayer games

[polar holly]

It is a nice to have but not a need to have

[indigo thicket]

i guess it's technically only about 3x faster

[polar holly]

it also depends on the type if it is nvme or sata

[indigo thicket]

NVMe is like another 5x faster it's nuts

think it's like 175MB/s for HDD, 500MB/s for SATA, 2000MB/s for NVMe

2000-3000MB/s

depends

[polar holly]

and gen4 is 5000MB/s

and slower depending

[indigo thicket]

gen4?

[polar holly]

gen 4 pcie

[indigo thicket]

ah i didn't realize there were drives using it yet, damn

[polar holly]

yeah they came out almost instantly as x570 dropped

I run one as a boot drive and a game drive

[muted patio]

It's not just bandwidth, it's also seek times. Virtually non-existent

[indigo thicket]

oh true

[polar holly]

accurate. i would never reccomend one unless they have a massive budget but its amazing

[indigo thicket]

once you include seek times aren't SSDs like 10x faster than HDD?

[muted patio]

WIth how cheap SSD's are now, there is literally no reason not to have one

$25 for a Samsung 250gb

[polar holly]

i mean gen4 pcie nvme drives

[muted patio]

Even those are fairly affordabe

[polar holly]

i believe 1tb is 200+

[muted patio]

Sabrent is $169

so close, ya

[indigo thicket]

it's about 50% more, comparing corsair gen3 to gen4 1TB drives

[polar holly]

just make sure it has cooling on it or it will throttle the drive

[indigo thicket]

$125 for gen3 TLC drive, $185 for gen4 TLC drive

[muted patio]

But still, HDD compared to any SSD is poo

[polar holly]

yeah unless you want mass storage

then they are great

[muted patio]

Of course

I have a 4 TB internal drive for storage, 8TB external USB 3 for backup

But I also have 3TB of SSD lol

[indigo thicket]

i'm on 1Gb fiber and i don't keep a movie library or anything, so i don't even have a use for my HDDs anymore

[muted patio]

Pictures, my wife is Photog

we use the 8TB for her and my backups

[indigo thicket]

ah, yeah that'll do it

[polar holly]

yeah i am at 3tb of nvme storage and my nas. I will alawys have a need for them as backups

i dont trust any drives

[muted patio]

My MX500 OS drive is starting to age, time to replace it soon

[indigo thicket]

i would use my HDD for backup but I don't have a 3.5" bay

[polar holly]

i replaced mine just recently when i was doing a replacement of my cpu. I dont keep any in my tower. as that isnt a backup its still just storage

backups i always want seperated from the users

[muted patio]

Put the HDD in a USB 3.0 enclosure for backups

no need for high speed there

[indigo thicket]

true

[muted patio]

Or a NAS box

[indigo thicket]

i'll probably end up getting a NAS at some point

kinda pricey though

[muted patio]

I have mine on a network share

WOrks well enough

[polar holly]

yeah they are nice to have. and can be made for decently cheap outside of the drives

i built mine out of parts that i have upgraded out of

apart from buying true nas drives

which are a must

[indigo thicket]

yeah

[muted patio]

I pikced up the 8 TB External for like $130 on a super sale

[polar holly]

yeah i have l have 24 tb backup nas. i think in new parts it was 600

[indigo thicket]

i guess i could get a 2 bay nas and drop my old HDD in it for now, then eventually get a couple drives 2-4TB drives and put them in RAID in it

[polar holly]

just make sure you are getting server grade drives if your building a nas

[indigo thicket]

yeah

[polar holly]

like heres what i run

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fQzPJb

mind only new parts that are for it are the drives

ohh and theres a 256gb ssd in there

[indigo thicket]

damn, you already upgraded out of an 8700k? that's what's in main build still

in my*

[polar holly]

Its a badass cpu but i got a free 9900k from my work for holiday bonus

[indigo thicket]

nice

my holiday bonus was not getting laid off, they just laid off like half our office

[polar holly]

yeah i hear that often and its always terrible. i am lucky as our workshop is 6 people when it should be like 20

[indigo thicket]

what software are you running the NAS with? i'm tempted to get a Synology NAS just because the software looks so great

[polar holly]

unraid

its what i am used to dealing with from my work servers

[indigo thicket]

i see

[polar holly]

We used to have freenas before and it was also good

[eager chasm]

I did it, used a used a grinder to flatten the broken screw and pull out the optical, again "Kids, Don't try this at home"

[indigo thicket]

the screws that come with some components these days are scary cheap

[eager chasm]

You know you are either doing it very wrong or very right when power tools come into play in PC building

😂

[indigo thicket]

like MSI monitors, i think the screws they use are literally made of cheese

i haven't put together an MSI monitor without chowdering at least one screw head before

[eager chasm]

The screw head completely snapped off this Blu-ray player

[indigo thicket]

did you put it in with power tools too or something? 😂

[eager chasm]

A grinder was the only solution

And no, just a manual screw driver lol

But since it was in I didn't care fornlike a year

But now I have to care cause I'm case swapping

And I'm not buying a new Blu-ray player

[indigo thicket]

thankfully i was too young when disks were a thing to bother buying any

so i haven't had a disk drive in like 8 years

maybe only 5 idk

just moved my computer into a meshify C last week so i couldn't even if i wanted to now

[old charm]

does it matter where you plug stuff into the motherboard?

for the front panel?

[latent bronze]

front panel follow what it says

plugging it randomly could damage your system

[little osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwEOvTNtwO0 this is safe?

my aios hella basic so if i could spice it up a lil then

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Hey guys quick question. I restarted my PC but my monitors are not coming on

I'm what to do

[winged hollow]

@stark siren i like the destiny ghost shell above your pc in #build-pics. the original vanguard shell

[eager chasm]

I would not wish building in this case on anyone... But I did it, it's a snug fit for all my parts and a Blu-ray drive

Like absolutely no chearence left for many of the parts

[tame olive]

Build in the inwin a1

Stupid case. The Qi charger didn’t even work

RMA a case that took forever to build in because the only cool feature it had didn’t work.

[eager chasm]

I'm never buying a compact mid tower again

[tame olive]

I don’t know what case I’ll build in next. I kind of want to just start building my own

[stark siren]

Thanks @winged hollow

[little osprey]

got myself a tower now I just need hardware

[delicate prairie]

i won a 2700x ryzen amd on amd twitch stream an hour ago what mb should i get? MSI? asrock?

[tame olive]

Get the asrock deskmini!

[old charm]

my dad thinks the components I have attatched weigh too much for my motherboard so he told me to have it laying down all the time

[eager chasm]

Done with the 2nd build of the day, far easier to do

[old charm]

okay i just bought a bolster for $12 lol

[tame olive]

You're supposed to use anime figures to hold up your GPU

[eager chasm]

Since my case is now shorter from front to back I had take off the top half of my GPU stand of and stick in ontop of the harddrive cage

Hope my thermals stay decent in the smaller case

🤔

I'll have to play some BDO

[trim heron]

Should I just use stock cooler

[eager chasm]

the stock cooler is fine on Ryzen

[trim heron]

K

[eager chasm]

just not really good for overclocking, especially on 2nd gen

[trim heron]

K

[little osprey]

@trim heron I recommend the firecuda sata sshd

it's a bit pricier but much better

[eager chasm]

🤔 my GPU seems to be running significantly cooler in the smaller case, I hope it stays that way with longer play

4 degrees cooler so far, that's pretty good

[shut rampart]

How do I fix so that the temp isn’t 80c and the gpu isn’t 97

[limpid merlin]

reapply thermal paste if you haven't in a while

[eager chasm]

^

better thermal paste, more case fans

[shut rampart]

Just built the pc

And that’s the max fan

It can have

[eager chasm]

got a pic of the build?

[muted patio]

What processor?

What GPU?

What cooling method?

Way too little information here

What load is that running also?

[shut rampart]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qhCH27

Runing on fortnite

[eager chasm]

no not the part list, a picture

need to see the build in its final state

[muted patio]

What fans you running in that case?

[shut rampart]

2 Cool master 1 roweel fans and 1 other idk

[muted patio]

Size? Configuration?

[eager chasm]

a picture would help

[shut rampart]

120m and 3 intake 1 outtake

[eager chasm]

seriously

[muted patio]

Air is stalling in the case, you need 2 in and two out at least

[shut rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/326775215839248384/655566480531783705/video0.mov

[muted patio]

If you only have 4

[shut rampart]

Look like that

[muted patio]

The top one you have as an intake?

[shut rampart]

Yes

[eager chasm]

3in? please flip that top fan to out, thatss your problem

[muted patio]

YAS

[shut rampart]

Ok out that it?

[muted patio]

Should help a ton

[eager chasm]

yea flip it around

[muted patio]

Ya, so it's blowing OUT instead of IN

Hot air rises, get that hot air out of the case

[shut rampart]

Ah make sense

[eager chasm]

surprisingly using a different case has me between 2 and 7 degrees cooler, only thing changed was the case XD

[muted patio]

Plus you've got too much positive pressure with three blowing in and only one out. The air is just staying in the case.

[eager chasm]

hot air rises, you are pushing it back down

[jaunty karma]

aup

sup

[eager chasm]

not much, finished my 2 builds 😄

[jaunty karma]

im just downloading everything

[eager chasm]

I'm quite happy with the look and surprisingly the new thermals of my main

[jaunty karma]

my build is great

soon ill just upgrade

what should i upgrade first?

[limpid merlin]

What is your current build

[jaunty karma]

ryzen 5 2600

a320 sh2

[eager chasm]

kinda sad that even with 2 optical bays there is no clearance for a 2nd optical, it would but right up against the MB power

[jaunty karma]

8gb ram

rx570 4g

[muted patio]

Upgrade that GPU first

[polar holly]

I would upgrade either the gpu or mobo

[eager chasm]

I'd ssay Mobo

[jaunty karma]

mobo

[polar holly]

motherboard

[jaunty karma]

probably cheaper than another gpu

i was thinking of and asrock b450M steel legend

[polar holly]

your just going to need to upgrade it before you can upgrade your cpu

[jaunty karma]

an*

[eager chasm]

o.o BDO is sitting at 70C on the GPU... it was 78C in the last case

I love this case

it sucks to build in, but it's a good case

[trim heron]

Hey is this drive better

[jaunty karma]

BDO is a bank in our place

[polar holly]

is that underload

[jaunty karma]

wait

[polar holly]

I would never use a hybrid drive personally

[jaunty karma]

should i upgrade my storage first?

[eager chasm]

my laptop had a hybrid... was not fun

[trim heron]

Oh rly

[jaunty karma]

im only sitting on 500gb

[trim heron]

Do you guys know any better storage methods

That are fairly cheap

[muted patio]

SSd's are $25. Get a large HDD for storage if you have to and then get a 250gb SSD

[polar holly]

it doesnt have enough cache ssd to hold most games or anything else so its just as bad as a hdd for more money

[eager chasm]

Hybrid drive jsut means there is an SSD cache, and it's sooo small it's constantly refilled, meaning REALLY slow load times overall

[jaunty karma]

how can i test my pc?

[eager chasm]

get the free version of 3D Mark

[trim heron]

Okay

[polar holly]

your better going with a ssd boot drive and a hdd mass store drive

[trim heron]

Do you think I should just get like a 500 gn ssd

Gb*

And then later on get a hard drive

[jaunty karma]

where?

[shut rampart]

What happens when you have all outtake

[muted patio]

no air movement

[polar holly]

that would be a good idea. do you have a part list.

[eager chasm]

@jaunty karma on steam look up 3DMark, then fnd the Download Demo button on the right

[trim heron]

Yah hold on

[eager chasm]

that's a nice PC test

[trim heron]

I have a amazon list and pc part picker

[polar holly]

depending on the case some are made for positive pressure others are made for nuteral nut negative isnt to advised

link the partpicker one

[trim heron]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fGfyWb

[polar holly]

what budget do you have

[eager chasm]

that tower looks like it has junk front airflow

I can't see any side vents

[jaunty karma]

is six case fans overkill?

[trim heron]

Around 950

Just below 1000

[eager chasm]

I use 5 case fans, so no

[polar holly]

i have 12 in one build so no

[jaunty karma]

im very happy with my build 😄

[eager chasm]

that Aero Cool, looks like it will be Aero ON FIRE....

[jaunty karma]

dude i needed a 20 meter lan cable for my pc

[eager chasm]

HORRIBLE airflow

[trim heron]

Got any better cases

[jaunty karma]

Rakk Hunit

[trim heron]

That are decently cheap for suggestions

I’m trying to say under 100

1000*

[jaunty karma]

around $40

[eager chasm]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811353141?Description=DIYPC M28&cm_re=DIYPC_M28-_-11-353-141-_-Product

jsut built in it

building in it SUCKS, but it's cheap and has good air flow for the price

[jaunty karma]

cooler master?

[eager chasm]

though it will need a few extra fans

[jaunty karma]

who wants to see bad cable management

i dont

[eager chasm]

I think my new build has decent cable management... just don't take of the back panel, takes an army to cram it back on XD

[trim heron]

Wait

[polar holly]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v7ckf9 @trim heron

[trim heron]

Would this be a good ssd

[polar holly]

tahs a littler more well rounded

[trim heron]

Oh I’ll check that out

[jaunty karma]

Best mouse pad

[eager chasm]

hey I used a chess board as a mouse pad for 5 years

[polar holly]

I built my own for a long while

[trim heron]

Ok well do you think I can get away with only 500 gb for a while

Or should I do what you put on the list

[lime forge]

https://pcpartpicker.com

[trim heron]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Glen_hinman/saved/#view=PbWV7P

[polar holly]

nah if you only need 500gb do that

[trim heron]

K

Oh how much is windows

[hard yew]

13$

[jaunty karma]

got mine for $30

[trim heron]

Oh ok

So this is my final build list

How’s it look. Hold on

Total:$ 993.08

[eager chasm]

looks good

[hard yew]

if you're looking to upgrade later on, a 550w power supply won't be enough

[lime forge]

id get at least a 650w

[eager chasm]

BDO running at 60C on the gpu....

this PC case has witch craft in it

[indigo thicket]

what GPU?

[eager chasm]

it's like all my pain and suffering about building in it was worth it

Radeon VII

was running at like 78C in the game before

[indigo thicket]

oh, yeah that's cool for a 300W card

[twin hare]

what would you change and what case do you choose for this build? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LTWrMc

[indigo thicket]

i had to run my case in negative pressure just to get my 2070 down to 70C full load

[eager chasm]

who knew a smaller more compact case would give me better thermals, it looks MORE restrictive

lol

[indigo thicket]

it's the EVGA xc ultra+ though, it's way overclocked so it generally runs hot

yeah this meshify C has been pretty restrictive but mainly cause i have a 280 rad in front

i think it could do fine in positive pressure if i had the radiator on the exhaust

so the GPU could get more fresh air in

cause right now it's relying on the negative pressure to suck air in the holes in the back of the case to give the GPU enough air

[jaunty karma]

my wifi sucks T^T

[eager chasm]

i like how with my glass side panel you can just see the optical drive jutting into the top XD

it's the odd thing out in the PC lol

[jaunty karma]

any game suggestions\

[still roost]

Keegan#2839 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[indigo thicket]

game suggestions for crappy wifi?

[eager chasm]

terraria, that's cheap and fun

[jaunty karma]

oh ik why its slow

my ps4 is updating a game

[eager chasm]

use wired on your PC XD

[jaunty karma]

yeah

i am

[eager grove]

hi everyone

Im getting a warning on startup that my cpu fan is failing and may cause overheating

[eager chasm]

sounds like your CPU fan might be failing

might need a new cooler

[jaunty karma]

isnt that what he just said

[eager grove]

im trying to find the correct replacement fan onnewegg. but do you think i might need an entire cooler?

[muted patio]

What cooler do you have now?

[eager chasm]

pic of the cooler?

[jaunty karma]

right when i overclock

do i need to change heatsink?

[eager grove]

not sure. it came stock on my hp desktop pc

[eager chasm]

then it's most likely an intel stock 🤔

take a pic?

[steep elbow]

Is this a good $1000 ish build?
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700

Motherboard: MSI B450 Tomohawk

Memory: Corsair Vengence 16 gb (2 x 8gb)

Storage: Samsung Evo 500gb

Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 super 8gb

Power Supply: Corsair VS 550 watt

Case: Thermaltake V200 RGB ATX mid tower

[jaunty karma]

ryzen 5 2600 2nd gen overclocks on its stock heatsink is it pl

[eager grove]

i7 6700t 2.8ghz

[jaunty karma]

@steep elbow what Mhz does your ram have?

[steep elbow]

3000

DDR4

[jaunty karma]

i recommend to change your power supply to CMX

[muted patio]

-For the price of that super get a 5700XT. Better performance. RTX is poo on the 2060

[steep elbow]

I'm guessing 5700xt is better for VR as well

[muted patio]

It is

especially 1440p

[eager grove]

can i just change the fan or do i need the entire cooler?

[muted patio]

Need a pic to know for sure

Hard to say what HP used for a cooler

[eager grove]

cant get to it to shoot a pic

[jaunty karma]

are u using a phone?

[eager grove]

no im typing on my laptop unfortunately

[jaunty karma]

that explains it

[muted patio]

Without knowing what the cooler looks like or what size the fan is, we can't really help

Could be 80mm, 120mm or stock intel fan

[eager grove]

it looks pretty simple from my memory. sqare with fins fan on top of that

[muted patio]

There's 80mm, 90mm and 120mm

[eager grove]

gotcha

[twin hare]

what case should you recomend for a atx like this one

https://mx.pcpartpicker.com/list/LTWrMc

[eager grove]

so i need to find out the meaurement and replace as needed

[topaz mauve]

Case fan has 3 pins and mb has 4

Can I still use it? Or do I need to put it in a certain way

[muted patio]

@twin hare for the price of that 2060 go 5700XT. Trust me, I own a 2060 lol

As for a case, get something that you want to look at. With at least 4 fans

[eager grove]

can you guy suggest a good editing build that wont break the bank? under 1000? possible?

editing 4k foootage and not major rendering

[twin hare]

like what i dont know nothing about cases @muted patio

[muted patio]

NZXT makes nice cases, as does Lian Li

[eager grove]

but would like to push out edits pretty quickly

case, board, card, power, cpu

[indigo thicket]

@topaz mauve the MB has 4 pins because the 4th pin is for PWM control of fans. 3 pin fans work on the same header but just don't use the 4th pin

they are keyed so they go in the right way

make a note of which header you put it in because you'll want to go into the BIOS and set that fan to voltage control instead of PWM since it's 3 pin

looks like an ASUS board, the best ones are CHA_FAN headers

[topaz mauve]

So don't use the 4th from the bottom or 4th from the top @indigo thicket?

[indigo thicket]

it will only fit one way, but it'll be the top pin that won't be used

[jaunty karma]

can i stream on my pc?

[topaz mauve]

got it thanks

[jaunty karma]

can my pc handle streaming?

[indigo thicket]

you can stream on almost any PC if you've got the upload bandwidth

[jaunty karma]

oki

[indigo thicket]

if you want to stream a game it'll depend on the game ofc

[eager chasm]

... that's just untrue

[indigo thicket]

i've seen people stream 720p from laptops just fine

[eager chasm]

if your hardware is too weak to encode and game at the same time you will have a very bad time streaming

[indigo thicket]

yeah, but he wasn't specific

[eager chasm]

but any Ryzen 5 should be decent at streaming with software encoding

in MOST games

[jaunty karma]

Rainbow6?

[indigo thicket]

streaming shooters is pretty demanding

[eager chasm]

depends on the Shooter

[jaunty karma]

Rainbow6

insurgency\

[eager chasm]

no idea what kind of load R6 is XD

[jaunty karma]

pubg

csgo

paladins

[eager chasm]

CSGO will run on a potato, that's easily streamable with Software encoding

MOST of these titles will be fine with software encoding on a ryzen 5

[jaunty karma]

This will take ages

[indigo thicket]

you'll need to do a test to see if your internet can keep up as well, you need a high bitrate for shooters

[eager chasm]

use the x264 encoder in OBS with minimum 6000 Kb/s and you should do fine

if your internet keeps up

[jaunty karma]

Is streamlabs ok?

[eager chasm]

streamlabs is a version of OBS

so yea

but OBS offers better control

[jaunty karma]

I was able to stream on my bad laptop

Intel i5

4gb ram

[shut rampart]

Why is my gpu 98?

[jaunty karma]

Hd grapphics 4000

@shut rampart

What app is that

[shut rampart]

Amd

[eager chasm]

@shut rampart did you swap that fan around to be an out fan?

[shut rampart]

Yes

The cooler is good but the gpu is bad

Use to be 85 during game and now 70 during games

Helped a lot but idk why gpu is dying

[jaunty karma]

How do i know if its in or out

[eager chasm]

@shut rampart your GPU seems to be in the 60s on temp

[shut rampart]

Is that good?

[eager chasm]

it's very good

that number on the left is not temp, that's % of the GPU processing being used

[jaunty karma]

My fans are spinning counter clock wise

[shut rampart]

Ok but I don’t want to use all of it

[eager chasm]

that's how GPUs work

[shut rampart]

Suppose to use all of it?

[eager chasm]

yes

[shut rampart]

OOOH I’m dumb

[eager chasm]

telling it to use less is basically limiting the frame rate

[eager chasm]

your GPU is perfectly fine as is

@jaunty karma that's actually not bad

[jaunty karma]

But my eyes cant handle it

[eager chasm]

it's the catchup and mustard cables XD

[jaunty karma]

Is that good?

For a new heatsink

Or should i go

[cursive wharf]

Size itself is decent. Tho fin density, heatpipe quality, direct contact with heatpipe, and fan quality are all unknowns to me cuz you didnt really specify the coolers

[jaunty karma]

Deepcool GAMMAXX GTE

[woven spruce]

is an AIO better than Air Cooler for CPUs?

[lime forge]

compatibility and looks yes, price no, performance same (depending on cooler)

to get aio performance on an air cooler youre gonna be sacrificing looks a LOT

air coolers are just so ugly

imo

[little osprey]

depends on the application. air coolers can look pretty neat in a horizontal case (like a thermaltake core series for instance)

an aio would look pretty awkward in my case for instance

but other than that, what zack said

tho i should also mention longevity. air coolers can last a lifetime as the heatsink itself has no moving parts and fans can be changed very easily

[lime forge]

buuuuuuuttttt

aios look cool

:D

lmao

[fleet talon]

So, I just installed a new motherboard (MSI MEG x570 ACE) and a new CPU (Ryzen 9 3900x). Is it normal for this setup to run a MemTest86 on first boot or did it detect something wrong with my RAM or CPU and it's preemptively checking to make sure everything is good?

[viscid kite]

Which cpu? 9700k or 3800x for streaming/ editing/ gaming

[topaz mauve]

Dumb question:
Forgot to add my gpu cable for my power supply, and I'm using a rtx 2060 super FE
There's no slots on my PSU that say for the gpu specifically

[viscid kite]

It’s the 6+2 pcie

[topaz mauve]

Okay, so I'm using another 8 pin psu cable right?

[viscid kite]

Ya

I’m gonna be getting a 2080 when I build mine in a couple months

[topaz mauve]

And the side that has the splitting of the 8 pin into a 2x4 is the side that'll go to the gpu right?

[viscid kite]

No I’m 75% sure that the 6+2 side is the one that goes into the gpu

Some wires say in on them or you could just look in the manual

[topaz mauve]

all the manual says is safety hazards lol XD

[viscid kite]

Oof

I would put the 2x4 Into the psu

Don’t take my word because I’ve never build a pc before but that’s just my knowledge

[topaz mauve]

So this instead?

[tame olive]

Whoah dud you're still building!?!?!?!?!?

[topaz mauve]

I had to stop to go to work today

[viscid kite]

Bro we have the same monitor

And yes

[topaz mauve]

VG279?

[viscid kite]

Oh oof

I just saw the box

[topaz mauve]

Yeah the boxes look the same XD

[viscid kite]

Are I using an aio or air cooler also what cpu do u have

[topaz mauve]

Ryzen 5 3600, Cooler master 212 black edition

[viscid kite]

Ok

How much was total cost

[topaz mauve]

$1400

[viscid kite]

Mine is 17 almost 1800

As of rn

[topaz mauve]

1400 for the entire setup including monitors and other things

[viscid kite]

I already have a monitor and a mouse so the only other peripherals I need is a keyboard

[topaz mauve]

If you're looking for a good, rigid full keyboard, highly recommend the hyper x alloy origins

[viscid kite]

Rn I’m planning on the redragon k555 indrha

Indrah*

What mb are u using

Rn I’m planning on the ASRock steel legend but idk

[topaz mauve]

Asus tuf x570 wifi

[viscid kite]

I was looking at that one for a bit

[trim heron]

You guys think my build is good for ordering

[viscid kite]

Not very much storage

[trim heron]

Ik

[viscid kite]

I’m getting 1 TB and then planning on upgrading

Personally idk how I would feel with only 500Gb

[trim heron]

Oh

Hm

[viscid kite]

I had issues on PS4 with space and pc files are much larger

[trim heron]

So should I get a 1 tb ssd?

[viscid kite]

I would

[trim heron]

Or keep the 500 gb ssd

And get a hard drive

[viscid kite]

The western digital 1 TB m.2 is a good one

U can get an hard drive if u want

Personally

I like to stick with SSD however

Fastest and more reliable

[trim heron]

K

How long have you pc games

Gamed*

[viscid kite]

I don’t have my pc yet I should in a few months but I just have done way to much research before hand

[trim heron]

Yah that’s how I am rn

Well good luck you build man

[viscid kite]

Thanks

[trim heron]

Keep grinding

I’m about to the stage of grinding for savings

[viscid kite]

I’m going for a higher end than u are so it’s gonna be a bit longer wait for me

[trim heron]

Yah lol

[polar holly]

Use the link dont put pcitures

[hybrid crest]

So i am going to buy a pc

Wait i'm poopin

Dont have dets rn

[fleet talon]

Getting high idle temps I believe. 3900x with a h115i PRO AIO. Using AS5. Sitting between 49-60c

cleaned and reapplied paste also

[muted patio]

Pump at 100%?

I've got the EVGA CLC 360 and sit at 30C idel

Idle

Should be lower

[fleet talon]

Have the icue set at extreme. That's all the control I have

[jaunty nacelle]

should i get the i9 9900k or the ryzen 7 3800x instead

plan on gaming and streaming

[muted patio]

Between those two, the 9900K is the better processor

Should be compared with the 3900x

[jaunty nacelle]

should i get the 3900x or 9900k then

[muted patio]

Whichever you can get cheaper

Both great for what you want to do

[cold cloak]

Can someone make me a build for about 1100 USD - for gaming ? ty

I have no preferences except that I do want an ssd as boot drive and at least 16 gb of ram

[icy crater]

Anyone good videos on how to build a pc? Recenty received all my parts.

[tame olive]

The verge made a decent video

[icy crater]

Hmmm my friends warned me not to watch that one.

[tame olive]

Oh

Paul’s hardware I think recently did one

[icy crater]

Ok tysm.

[dark hearth]

Got a question

Currently finished building a pc but when I plugged in all the HDMI and USB stuff