building-and-recc-chat

[timber pivot]

in slower past games

[dry tinsel]

since i lost my displayport cable to it being stuck in the bloody thing for some reason i have to now acquire another

[little osprey]

@dry tinsel

[dry tinsel]

G-SYNC isn't working on HDMI 1.4 or whatever

[eager chasm]

Since BDO is a very fast paced action combat game the 100+ FPS really helps a lot

[dry tinsel]

kayne probably powercolor or something

[little osprey]

is msi good?

[dry tinsel]

MSI is fine

[timber pivot]

yea msi is nice and stable

[dry tinsel]

like there's nothing wrong with 90% of those cards

[eager chasm]

Yea HDMI doesn't have up channels, so no adaptive sync

[dry tinsel]

i have to get a blower because of my case and the layout

i know it is loud

i have dampening foam on the inside of my case though

[eager chasm]

Loud? Have you heard a VII rev up? It's fans are like jet engines

[dry tinsel]

well VII is like a blower but with 3 fans

also i've had a blower before and it was whhhhhhhhhhzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

vacuum sound

[eager chasm]

Performance fan curve on a VII can make you go deaf

lol

I never notice it since I always use headphones

I might look at getting a better headset once my loan payments are done in February, I'll have a tax return to yeet about too

The Cloud II is a nice mid-tier headset

But I want something better now XD

[dry tinsel]

the cloud II

what a product name that is

[lyric thistle]

I can smell the skynet

[eager chasm]

Yea it was the most popular headset a few years ago

[dry tinsel]

I use MDR-7506s usually but my pair broke so i need a replacement

i'd like a set of blootueth headphones though

since my new PC should have blootueth functionality through the wireless antenna

[mild ridge]

It's here :) now waiting for the rest LOL

[jaunty karma]

Heya

Kinda need help on build

Budget of $400-600

What should i get

Already have a case

[cinder vault]

ATX case?

And what do you plan on doing with it?

[patent steppe]

Who got experience with the b450m pro 4 and q300l case

[eager chasm]

Depends what you are asking about

[patent steppe]

Putting the motherboard in the q300l case

[eager chasm]

Cause most of the time putting a board in a case is pretty standardized

[patent steppe]

Have a hard time with that

[sudden turret]

what's the problem.

[patent steppe]

I am still a beginner sorry

[sudden turret]

the standoffs?

[patent steppe]

Yes

And getting by mobo in the case

[sudden turret]

in the case, each screw point shound have a letter associated with it

so if you have mATX board.

example screw holes with A would be for that board.

you'll have to check the manual and see.

or it might even be printed on the case

[patent steppe]

I know

I saw on my case

[eager chasm]

What exactly are you having problems with?

[sudden turret]

did you install the I/O shield first?

[patent steppe]

Yes

Do I have to push the motherboard against the io shield

[sudden turret]

so then that side of the mobo should be in first, align with shield, and slowly lay the board down

sometimes those retention grounds get in the way on the I/O

[eager chasm]

Yea it takes a small amount of force to get the board into the io sheild

[sudden turret]

they sometimes act like a spring so to speak

you might have to push and hold it until you get one or two screws in.

[patent steppe]

Okay thx!

I will try it again tonight

[sudden turret]

oh you're not doing it now? lol

[patent steppe]

No lol

[sudden turret]

doh 😐

[patent steppe]

😕

But I am thinking all day about it 😅

Cannot wait till I am home

[sudden turret]

if you still have troubles just come back.

[tranquil dust]

Gm

[eager chasm]

?

[sudden turret]

'goodmorning'

[tranquil dust]

Lol

[eager chasm]

Ah, kids these days in their slang, stay off my lawn

[eager chasm]

hmmm I'm tempted to get an Athlon 2000G or 3000G as a super budget homebrew NAS option

the ultra low cost and integrated graphics make it a star choice for such a build 😄

I mean it's just a NAS, not even a light work build

[muted patio]

Once it's up and running you won't even need the integrated. Find an old video card, pop it in, set it up, make it headless, remove video card, done.

[jaunty nacelle]

@coarse coral damn nice what are ur pc specs

[sudden turret]

r, g, and b.

[eager chasm]

The idea for a homebrew NAS for my parents
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D3sygJ

about as budget as it gets

[raven shale]

i am building a new computer. and i want a good graphics card. should i lower my cpu to a top tier core i5 or just keep it with a core i7 and get a 1660ti?

[eager chasm]

slap FreeNAS on it and my parents can back up their stuff 😄

@raven shale depends on the games you intend to play

some games now go HEAVY on the multithreading these days

[raven shale]

i plan to play some pretty new games like modern warfare for exapmle

example*

[eager chasm]

a middle ground would be a Ryzen 5, -2% general gaming performance but 6 Core/12 Thread and it's much better in more heavily threaded titles

[little osprey]

If you're already spending $321 - might as well go ssd imo. If you plan to expand, that's another story.

[eager chasm]

in most cases a 6core i5 should do fine in gaming, but I don't know exactly how thread intensive the new COD is

so if you wanna save some money I'd go with i5 or R5 and put that extra couple hundred towards a better GPU if you can

Also if you plan on doing anything outside of gaming like recording, streaming, video editing or anything of the sort the Ryzen 5 is your power house for the price point

[jolly bear]

Has anyone done or seen a itx build that is worth it ? I’m a college kid and wanna be able to easily take my pc back n forth to home in a suitcase or backpack. So Im interested in doing a itx build just want to hear input and thoughts or recommendations!

[eager chasm]

Well I was planning a stripped down ITX build for a Homebrew Nas, I could retool the list for a college/gaming PC

:)

It's not a SUPER compact case but it's manageable

[sudden turret]

wouldn't a nice laptop be more useful?

wouldn't have to worry about totting around a monitor

[eager chasm]

who said anything about totting around a monitor, have one at each location

😉

[drifting jetty]

If it's just a Homebrew NAS you could just use a raspi 4

[eager chasm]

i rather stick to my wheelhouse and not deal with a pi

even if it's not as cost effective

[drifting jetty]

Fair enough

[eager chasm]

@jolly bear here's a list for a no-compromise mid-tier ITX build for a computer if you care to look.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xgm4Mc

good for school, home, school work, and gaming

(half lie the compromise is in the stock cooler for the R5)

pretty sure some decent low profile coolers exist

it's not the most compact you can get an ITX build, but it's not so large it would be hard to carry easily

[little osprey]

i can’t wait to get my pc

i’ve got like 2 more weeks of waiting before i’m ordering everything

it’s gonna be amazing

i wish i was getting a 1440p 144hz monitor right away

[eager chasm]

grats

[little osprey]

but that’ll have to come later down the road

[eager chasm]

well if you are cranking everything to max settings 144FPS is unrealistic in AAA titles 😄

[little osprey]

that’s true

1440p mainly though

i’ve just heard the difference between 60 and 144 is day and night

[eager chasm]

oh trust me, i may not be able to hit 165 in BDO, but I can hit 100 and it's amazing, much better for such a fast paced combat game

[little osprey]

yeah i guess even just that extra 40fps is a lot nicer

my main game will be r6

so i feel like even on ultra i can hit 120+ frames

[eager chasm]

Ah, the thinking-man's shooter

lol

[little osprey]

one of my favorite games and it’s lasted with me for years

[eager chasm]

don't mind me I'll be over here with my MMOs

[little osprey]

mainly play on xbox but on my laptop which uses a 1050ti i can play very high settings smoothly

i’ve tried mmos but can’t get into it

[eager chasm]

it's not for everyone

I played some shooter MMOs, wasn't my cup of tea

[little osprey]

i just switched my monitor for my xbox and it’s insane what a difference it made

[signal dock]

Okay, so I swapped my thermal paste, and the GPU still doesnt give any signal

[little osprey]

the other one was an old acer 21” monitor on what i’m guess was 720p because this is a 24” 1080p monitor and it looks way clearer

[eager chasm]

yea the monitor type and quality can make a HUGE difference

my second monitor has a 16ms response time... shoot me 😄

thankfully it's 1Ms on my main

[terse kraken]

When was this released?

[sudden turret]

June 2011

[terse kraken]

Ty

[little osprey]

Now I'm second guessing my case choice

dammit

maybe i don't want the Lian Li case

[old charm]

does anyone know how to/if you can take the front panel off an NZXT510? CuzI'm pretty sure you can't

[little osprey]

Idk about the 510

I've taken the panel of the S340 and H400

[still roost]

SouthPawPad#1296 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

Dngit

[old charm]

I'm gonna have really crappy airflow if I can't

[little osprey]

now I can't stop looking at other cases

wtf

[drifting jetty]

I would just Google wether the front panel comes off or not

Sometimes it doesn't¯_(ツ)_/¯

[old charm]

I did and also if you refer to the manual I don't think it does

so I think I'm SoL in that regard

[drifting jetty]

The vast majority do, but there is an odd one out every so often

[old charm]

I saw a video where you technically could but you have to take out rivets which idk if I wanna do

[drifting jetty]

I probably wouldn't

[old charm]

I'm not going to

[signal dock]

Can someone help me with my gpu?

Again?

[little osprey]

Omg

Meshify S2 is sexy

[drifting jetty]

@signal dock what's the issue?

[signal dock]

Its turns on and the fans start spinning but i dont get any signal whatsoever

[hoary goblet]

should i buy a prebuilt hp pavilion gaming pc for 1000 cad

with 9400f

and 1050 ti

[drifting jetty]

That's my config and I payed ~700$ and that was about 2yrs ago

So I don't think so

@signal dock I assumed you've checked all cables external and internal?

[signal dock]

Yup

[drifting jetty]

Including on the power supply end if you have a modular

[signal dock]

There is only 1 internal cable and thats for the fans

[drifting jetty]

Does the GPU need supplemental power?

[signal dock]

???

You power form the psu

[drifting jetty]

Yes

[dry tinsel]

2010?

was scrolled up again

[hoary goblet]

should I get it

[drifting jetty]

But you said there was only one internal cable

[dry tinsel]

discorrrrd

[hoary goblet]

what

[drifting jetty]

I would explore other options @hoary goblet that sounds a few hundred dollars too many

[hoary goblet]

in canada

its from staples

[drifting jetty]

Oh

[hoary goblet]

kbm included

[drifting jetty]

🤔

[hoary goblet]

but membrane

and i have my own deathadder

[cursive wharf]

Still to much for Canadian prices

[drifting jetty]

That sounds... Okay then

[signal dock]

@drifting jetty do you mean cables in the whole pc or the gpu?

[hoary goblet]

should i buy a prebuilt or build my own pc

[sudden turret]

depends

[hoary goblet]

i like to play farcry, minecraft, roblox

[sudden turret]

DIY is better budget wise.

[hoary goblet]

and i have 1000 canadian

max

[sudden turret]

and you get better satisfaction knowing you built it

but if you feel like you can't do it, pre-built is your best bet.

or get someone to help you.

[hoary goblet]

my friend has built his own already and he offered to build mine for free

i dont know if newegg sells pre builts

[sudden turret]

they do

search ABS

SKYTECH

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=prebuilt

[old charm]

do psu's typically blow downward or upward or does it depend on case?

[hoary goblet]

farcry, minecraft, roblox @ mid settings 60fps 1080p

what Gpu is fit for me

[shut spoke]

gtx 1060 6gb

[sudden turret]

@old charm the psu fan sucks in, and out the back.

to keep the psu components cool.

[polar holly]

Just make sure the fan is clear of obstruction it will depend on case

[old charm]

I ask because there is a mesh on the underside of my case

right underneath the psu

[drifting jetty]

You want the fan facing that

That way it cools independent of other components

So it won't just be sucking in hot air

[eager chasm]

in older cases it is the exhaust fan and you do aim the PSU into the case

but that was a long time ago

back when it was top mounted

[narrow rose]

back when you didnt have but maybe one case fan

[little osprey]

Must've been a very long time ago, like , box or intender longago 🙂 Traditionally it's rear exhaust psu + rear exhaust fan, both 80/92mm

[eager chasm]

back when 40mm Case fans were a thing lol

[narrow rose]

@little osprey thats what he meant basically using the PSU to pull hot air from the case

[eager chasm]

this case I used as my temporary uses PSU as exhaust

but thankfully it was missing it's window so it didn't matter too much

case fans don't matter too much if you run open air, just need to regularly dust it

[little osprey]

Beige needs a comeback. I'd love to use a gateway 2000, or even the all Al Mac Pro/G5 look pre-trash.

[eager chasm]

CLASSIC

[little osprey]

I have a ton of 40 mm's from server psu's, no use for them myself, afaik.

I saw a twitch streamer build in an XPS 710 the other month, glad I never bought one, but good design imo

[eager chasm]

last lan party I went to the 2 guys next to me brought regular gaming computers, and 2 windows 98 machines refurbished, they even brought a stack of old 90's games on CD

part way through they switched computers and started installing the stack of CDs and playing them

it was a sight to see

[mild ridge]

Is this correct?

[drifting jetty]

Yes

[mild ridge]

Also, where does this go.

[drifting jetty]

Then you plug a 8pin eps into the other end

[mild ridge]

This is the other end of the usb (first image)

[drifting jetty]

That powers the HDD and needs to be connected directly into the wall

[mild ridge]

The LEDs right?

It also come out of the h115i

[drifting jetty]

(If these are serious questions I'd watch a build guide)

[mild ridge]

This one is to power up the professor right?

They are all serious questions Lol

[drifting jetty]

Yeah

So I would definitely look up a build guide

Top left corner is indeed CPU power

The rest is somewhat difficult to explain via text

[eager chasm]

I'll accept that challenge!

@mild ridge there should be a hole just above those to route the CPU power to from behind

[mild ridge]

There is

[eager chasm]

it hurts my soul when someone reaches CPU power across the front

[mild ridge]

My biggest doubt is this one here

[eager chasm]

looks like a male fan plug

[mild ridge]

Oohhh

Right

[eager chasm]

the female part is under it

the female part foes onto a fan header, the header you use depends what that's connected to

[mild ridge]

I have plugged the fans to the board

And that's why I was so confused

[eager chasm]

is it connected to the AOI?

(your CPU cooler)

if it is it goes on the CPU fan header

[mild ridge]

Alright

[sudden turret]

yeah those two are the aio are for the fans to your rad

[mild ridge]

Do I need to plug both cpu power supply?

[sudden turret]

on the*

you'll be able to control fan speed on the icue software

[drifting jetty]

Unless you're overclocking you only need one plugged in

[eager chasm]

I use fan header splitters instead of a fan controller 😄

[mild ridge]

It's an i9 9900KS

Is it pre overclocked?

[eager chasm]

yea pretty much

9900KS is the king of heat, plug everything in

[drifting jetty]

*if possible

It shouldn't crash your system if you don't

[little osprey]

You'll very much enjoy it stock. I/we'll be happy to provide resources/help if/when the time comes for OC should you choose 🙂

He got 3600 xmp, right? nvm 3200, good, no risk of auto vcc io/sa >>>>> safe

[eager chasm]

I cut corners just enough in my builds to sound like a bad idea but still get optimal performance

like cheap DC case fans on splitters

or the most bargain bin cases possible that are just enough to not choke airflow

[little osprey]

90% of my loop parts/fittings/pumps are from the plumbing isle/autoparts lol. I can definitely relate

[eager chasm]

nice XD

make an entire loop out of 1/2 inch PVC pipe lol

lmao

[little osprey]

I might do much of one in 1/2 copper. Really easy to cut. I really liked working with ABS for high pressure pneumatic stuff

[eager chasm]

I'd hate to do copper, VERY corrosive, I'd hate to under mix anti-corrosion chemicals in

[little osprey]

Aren't most or almost all pc consumer water cooling parts copper, brass, and some plastics/rubbers?

Copper, nickel, brass can live together ok with only a bit of corrosion inhibitors and some biocide as well.

[eager chasm]

statue of liberty... that thing is what happens to copper XD

[little osprey]

Aluminum is the one that's on the far end of the galvanic series

[eager chasm]

personally I chose an X470 board to pair with my 3700X

but really most B450 boards will work fine

[little osprey]

Whatever works tbh - x570 bios troubles have been really rough for some.

[proud galleon]

I'm not the most experienced so wasn't even sure x470 was applicable, but I'd definitely consider

[eager chasm]

X740 is more of an overclocking type of board

[proud galleon]

i sorta lean toward Asus for aesthetics and nice bios, but i hear msi comes on top in most cases

[little osprey]

X570 boards on combo with 3600's even would be my choice recommendation if price is right, b450 msi is really solid too imo

[eager chasm]

I'm not too fussed about what boards I buy, if it has the feature set I want and the color too, I'll go for it

[little osprey]

If not for the price drops + combo discounts, x570/zen2 entry level would be a bit much

[eager chasm]

but yea if overclocking is a possible future goal, X470 might be your best option for performance to price

[proud galleon]

Think Ill go with the Strix x470f

[eager chasm]

as for what boards supply the smoothest and best OC performance that's a bit higher than my knowledge

[little osprey]

470-f is one of the two asus that are decent on VRM. The other is the C7H.

[cursive wharf]

most of MSI's b450 is fine for a decent OC on 3900x so I mean

[dry tinsel]

i dunno why they include stock coolers with CPUs that can barely handle the boost speed but make the CPUs super overclockable

looks at wraith prism and 2700X

lol

[eager chasm]

the fact the coolers are enough for stock at all puts them miles ahead of intel

the shade has been thrown

but hey at least the 3700X is a LOT cooler so the prism is far more viable on it

[muted patio]

No, no it's not

I used the Prism, the 212 and finally went water

FOr any kind of hard use the stock cooler sucks, as does the 212

[eager chasm]

works for me, 77C while playing a heavy game that uses all core, seems fine enough for beefy gaming

[muted patio]

FOr gaming, yeah, it's probably fine. But it literally thermal shut down when running a prime 95 test and some heavy video transcoding

[dry tinsel]

i'm gonna remove the thermal paste and put my own little bead on it

AMD applies way too much thermal paste to their coolers

it's goopy

[eager chasm]

... you sure P95 is a torture test? temps are lower than when i play my beefiest game and are not climbing...

boost is even still engaged

[mild ridge]

Is it any error code?

[muted patio]

Uh, Yeah, Prime 95 is designed as a CPU torture test

[mild ridge]

Also got this Led on

[muted patio]

Yo umay not have had all the settings correct if it's cooler than during gaming. 😉

[eager chasm]

72C, full tilt 100% usage... 7C colder than my beefiest game

[tawdry sorrel]

Sub to BongoForever

[eager chasm]

my radeon VII isnt heatsoaking the case either

[muted patio]

AH, it wasn't Prime95 lol

It was AIDA64

[eager chasm]

LMAO

[muted patio]

This is what happens when you get old -_-

[eager chasm]

still CPU is running full tilt in P95 it finally hit 80C, the cooler is taking it like a champ

[muted patio]

Are you on Blend?

[eager chasm]

blend?

[muted patio]

What setting?

Larege FFT, Small FFT or blend all?

[eager chasm]

no idea, whatever the default test is XD

[muted patio]

On water I'm at 65C right now 4.230 GHZ

Hit 4.25 there for a minute, fluctuiatint between that and 4.230

[eager chasm]

still in most stress tests my CPU doesn't ever seem to redline, the cooler does keep up... could partly be that I use a very high-end paste

[muted patio]

55C now

[eager chasm]

😄 grats, I'm happy with my 77-80C space heater,

it works well enough

[muted patio]

Of course it does

But can you keep it at 4.25 ghz the whole time? Ge3nuinely curious

[mild ridge]

I got no image, code on MB is Ab

Any ideia.

[eager chasm]

In my beefiest of beefy games, yep it bare sits below the thresh hold for shuting off the boost

@mild ridge look in your manual or online for that boards codes

[muted patio]

Need to know what MB it is

[mild ridge]

Gigabyte z390 Aorus Master

[old charm]

wow I gotta buy a lot of screws

[muted patio]

DO you have onboard @mild ridge ?

And why southpaw?

[old charm]

cuz they only have me like 4

[muted patio]

Yeah, we discussed that. You can use those for now and get more later

[old charm]

and if the psu instructions are telling me what I think they are I need more than 6

idk if this is true but according to the instructions, the psu and the motherboard use the same screws

so that's why I was saying I maybe have to buy more screws now

Im just gonna buy a bag of em

[muted patio]

Eh, oof

That's terrible for an NZXT case

They would probably send you some?

Ok, so AB just means it's waiting on user input for the BIOS

But no video is another problem

[old charm]

yeah maybe. but I mean it's only like a couple bucks for like a bag tops

[muted patio]

Try a different port on the video card or try the onboard if you have it?

AB Wait user command in BIOS Setup.

[little osprey]

question

[muted patio]

answer

[little osprey]

2200G 1650S or 2600 RX 570

isnt better gpu > better cpu

[muted patio]

NOt necessarily

What games do you want to play?

[little osprey]

"games that arent the most demanding such as r6"

[muted patio]

Rainbow 6 Siege?

[indigo crow]

yo bek

[little osprey]

yeah

[indigo crow]

can you give me a hand in #cases-psu-and-cooling

[muted patio]

IN a sec

[indigo crow]

cheers

[muted patio]

I would go 2600/RX570 but I do more than game. That's good for 70 FPS on medium settings, maybe 75. ON Ultra it's good for 50 FPS. If you do more than game on it, the 2600 is worth it. If you won't do anything but game, then the 1650S is the way to go.

[eager chasm]

depends on the game for ultra

but for the most part true

[mild ridge]

Took off the graphic card

And it worked

Using onboard

[eager chasm]

BDO ultra mode is like only 35FPS in cities in a VII XD

[mild ridge]

Doing windows installation then will try again

[muted patio]

Rainbow 6 Siege

I checked the benchmarks

since that's what the OP specifically mentioned

[eager chasm]

ah right

wasn't hear for that

[muted patio]

It's OK

@mild ridge probably have to set default GPU to PCI-E then if that's the case

[eager chasm]

... i remember why I don't like BDO in the winter, they force play Christmas songs in the cities...

[muted patio]

what is bdo

[eager chasm]

Black Desert Online

one of the beefiest MMOs to run

[mild ridge]

That's correct, right?

Gonna try again

[eager chasm]

should

[muted patio]

Internal Graphics Disable is what I would do

Cuz if you leave it on it will steal System RAM

@mild ridge

[lone cosmos]

Isnt black desert a mobile game :O

[muted patio]

No

I'm looking at it now

The graphics seem pretty good

[mild ridge]

Did not worked

But its a bit too late

[muted patio]

what didn't work?

Did you set it to Disable?

[mild ridge]

I have not

[muted patio]

AH, you need to

[mild ridge]

But PCie was as main already

[muted patio]

Right

Set Internal Graphics to Disable

[little osprey]

Disable CSM on the boot menu, disable fast boot

Why did the gpu have problems?

[muted patio]

It's defaulting to onboard

Screenshot above if you scroll a tad

[little osprey]

Weird, maybe a silly question, is the hdmi cable in the mobo or the card

[mild ridge]

It was on the card

I put in the mobo to see if I was able to boot and see something

[little osprey]

Ah, couldn't tell from the pic.

[mild ridge]

@muted patio where did u saw that?

[muted patio]

Internal Graphics, should be able to change it from AUTO to DISABLE

It's the second option down

from your picture

[little osprey]

Unsure wha z390 is like, though, the x570 master has options for which pcie slot to use first.

But it should still be able to post on integrated, clearing cmos etc

[muted patio]

That does too, it's set to PCI-E 1

[eager chasm]

@lone cosmos BDO did have a watered down mobile game made, and one for Xbox so you're not wrong

[lone cosmos]

I see

@eager chasm thanks

[eager chasm]

but I really like it as a very low barrier to entry high-end MMO

[lone cosmos]

Its on steam

[mild ridge]

@little osprey exactly that, option for which one to use first, and it's on PCie 1 now

[lone cosmos]

?

[mild ridge]

I have to remove the graphics card to make it work

[little osprey]

have you made your windows installation media ?

[muted patio]

Wait, you have to physically remove the GPU to use onboard graphics for the BIOS?

[azure kettle]

What is the best gpu brand not including prices only performance

[muted patio]

Raw performance is nVidia right now

[azure kettle]

Is the Asus 2080 super good?

[jaunty nacelle]

yes

[azure kettle]

I’m using the Asus board as well

[still roost]

SnowDCrow#9387 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[mild ridge]

Changed it to pcie2 and it worked

Sorry about the bad word :(

[muted patio]

OH, is your card in the middle slot?

[mild ridge]

No

The card was on slot 1

[muted patio]

The very top one?

[mild ridge]

Yeh

[muted patio]

Huh

[mild ridge]

I moved it to slot 2 just to check

[muted patio]

it must have the PCIEx1 slot as SLOT 1

That's weird

[mild ridge]

Also changed on bios

[muted patio]

But hey, you got it working!

[mild ridge]

Not nice Lol

Ugly lol

[muted patio]

Oooh

[clever spire]

I got a really good-bad idea

[muted patio]

you don't have it in the first slot

[mild ridge]

Is there any performance lost running it on pcie2?

[muted patio]

The first slot is closes to the CPU

ANd yes, that's a x8 slot instead of x16

[mild ridge]

Yeh

Do you guys think it may be a issue on the pcie slot?

[muted patio]

You had it in the slot closest to the CPU and had PCI-E 1 chosen and it didn't work?

[mild ridge]

Yep

[muted patio]

Are you 100% sure it was seated all the way?

[mild ridge]

Then I moved to pcie 2 and choose pcie2 on bios

And it worked

Well, I removed and put it back a couple of times

[drifting jetty]

Huh

[mild ridge]

Lets try one more time

[muted patio]

Well, that could either be a motherboard issue

[drifting jetty]

Defective board maybe?

Ha

[muted patio]

I've just never really heard of dead slots before

[drifting jetty]

I suppose if it got fryed some how

@mild ridge where you noticably static-y?

[muted patio]

Do the PCIE on Intel go right to the CPU or to the bridge first?

[mild ridge]

Is there a locker on the pcie slot?

[muted patio]

SHould be

[drifting jetty]

There definitely should be yes

[still roost]

SnowDCrow#9387 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[mild ridge]

Ops

I broke it 😂

[gaunt zinc]

Haha, sometime habits are hard to break

[drifting jetty]

Yep

[muted patio]

just use 💩

[drifting jetty]

You can also self cens*r

[mild ridge]

And that has anything to do with being able to detect if the card is there or not?

[drifting jetty]

Shouldn't

[lime forge]

we ask that you do not try to work around the filter, please @drifting jetty

[muted patio]

The latch itself shouldn't, no but the card may not be fully seated

[quartz coral]

anyone know a good mother board to use?

[drifting jetty]

Sorry not trying to brake rules just didn't know that even censored was unallowed

[gaunt zinc]

Haha yeah, I now use alternative words. Shoot is now in my vocabulary lol

[lime forge]

yeah, no problem

i mean, abbreviations are allowed (to some extent)

i use lmao all the time

[drifting jetty]

Good to know

[mild ridge]

This little fella

[muted patio]

Huh

MIght clip back in

Try it

[drifting jetty]

You definitely want it in there even if it doesn't fix the issue

[muted patio]

No RMA without it

[drifting jetty]

It's a real quick way to destroy pins

[mild ridge]

Got it back, it wasn't broken

Fuuu

It worked

😂 😝

But I think it wasn't the pin thought

I was not using the first dvi port on the board 🤔

Now I am

[muted patio]

Oh yeah, that'll do it too

Totally forgot about that

[mild ridge]

Installing drivers

NVidia graphic driver failed to install now

[muted patio]

OProbably because you just booted and windows is still installing the default?

I've had that happen before.

[sudden turret]

yeah gotta let it do its thing

[mild ridge]

I hate that I have all my cables so well set

And now everything is a mess

Not gonna fix it now though

1h30 in the morning

[sudden turret]

go to bed

😮

[mild ridge]

Gonna call sick today

No way I will go to the office

Loool?

Hmm

Second m2 did not show up on Windows

Forget what I need to do Loool

[muted patio]

DIsk Management, see if it shows there but is unallocated

[mild ridge]

thanks 🙂

already working now

I am way too dizzy now

I need to sleep a bit 😄

[icy plume]

is a system of this spec worth it for $500 USD?

RAM is 2666 mhz

[eager chasm]

cant read it

[muted patio]

9400f

8 GB ram

1660TI

[icy plume]

1660ti, i5-9400f, 8 gig ram

[muted patio]

256 GB SSD?

[icy plume]

256 gig SSD

yeah

[muted patio]

What brand?

[icy plume]

HP pavillion

[eager chasm]

it's kinda bare bones, but it's $500

[icy plume]

how so

It lacks an HDD but i have a 4TB external

[eager chasm]

8GB ram, only a small SSD

[icy plume]

and i can upgrade the ram so long as i have a windows product key

[jaunty nacelle]

build ur own pc.

[icy plume]

i dont care for SSD's, i just need it to boot windows fast, then i use HDD

i'm not bloody building a PC

[muted patio]

Yeah but the 9400F and 1660TI, those are almost $500 on their own?

[icy plume]

Are they?

[muted patio]

$150 processor, $200-$300 GPU

[icy plume]

then again i also dont have lots of faith in HP products

[muted patio]

I mean, the hardware is priced right

1660TI is $250

So just those two are $400 alone ish

So for $500 I'd say yeah.

[eager chasm]

still gonna cost about $20-50 to upgrade your ram depending on how you do it

since you were talking about it

[quartz coral]

do yous think a gtx 1660ti oc is worth getting?

[eager chasm]

if you are on the budget for one

[quartz coral]

what would be a good motherboard to have

[eager chasm]

depends on your CPU

[quartz coral]

AMD Ryzen 7 2700X

[eager chasm]

either a B450 or X470, B450 are the cheaper options and perfectly fine for average use

[quartz coral]

what one of those would u gte?

[azure kettle]

Is a z390 board bad with the i7 9700k

[eager chasm]

😄 i know nothing about intel boards, I should learn

[quartz coral]

Ryoku can i message you what parts im getting for my pc and can you tell me if its okay?

[eager chasm]

I'm headed to bed actually

.< sorry

[quartz coral]

okay nw

[muted patio]

Post a PC partpicker link here

[icy plume]

in general, is an hp pavilion desktop any good? i've had problems with HP in the past

[sudden turret]

eeeehhh

no matter how you look at it, it's an HP

lol

[cursive wharf]

QC on HP seems okay afaik.
Tho their laptops are apparently low on build quality and they have not the greatest customer support

[icy plume]

i have an hp omen laptop and at random when in sleep mode, it will turn back on

Thing runs great, but the standby on it is a real kick in the ass :/

[quartz coral]

@muted patio https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/9zVt7T

[muted patio]

Trade out that samsung for an m.2 format if you can. Not familiar with UK pricing to compare but here they are really close

That also seems like a lot of money for a 1080p monitor

[quartz coral]

yeah dw about the monitor just a reference

[muted patio]

24" for potentially less money and 144hz

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01A0ZRR50?tag=rtings-mn-r-20&ie=UTF8&th=1

[quartz coral]

thanks

[muted patio]

Change to this SSD

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sabrent-Rocket-NVMe-Hochleistungs-Solid-State-Laufwerk-SB-ROCKET-512/dp/B07KGMBCKD/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=m.2+ssd&qid=1576115115&sr=8-8

Cheaper, faster, better

[quartz coral]

everything else okay on it?

[mild ridge]

Alright, this is the last time I build a PC this much sleepy

[muted patio]

Yeah, I think everything else is OK for 1080p gaming

That PSU shows as unavailable though

[mild ridge]

To think that I put the dvi on wrong port

And was considering that it was totally broken lol

[marsh dagger]

can some one help me build a 700 dolar build for gaming

[dry tinsel]

1080p/1440p? refresh rate?

games you like to play?

[marsh dagger]

1080p

60hz

fortnite apex destiny 2

csgo

[dry tinsel]

so you want to play games that will play on a potato but you want to get high framerates

[marsh dagger]

rainbow six

dude

[dry tinsel]

i'll do up a build

[marsh dagger]

idk what u think but a patao can not play these games only csgo is good

also need wifi

[dry tinsel]

potato is not literal

it means a low-end PC

it's a joke based on those potato clocks you make in school with the electrodes

[wraith birch]

I can't even run csgo tho

[dry tinsel]

really?

i'm sorry

[wraith birch]

Yeah, it's like, 15fps in lowest config

At most

[dry tinsel]

i'm gonna build for this person here and try to not let it get out of hand

[wraith birch]

I didn't know you where an architect

[polar holly]

That should do for the titles listed

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x2hshg

It has a solid upgrade path to it. Allowing for more ram, a better gpu or cpu as you can

[little osprey]

Can anyone help me

I installed a Wifi card but it doesn't show up

the leds on it light up and i've downloaded drivers manually

[viral ore]

does it appear in device manager?

[little osprey]

No

[viral ore]

does anything show up as an unrecognized device in device manager

[little osprey]

Only one unknown

[dry tinsel]

try searching for drivers by right click and update driver on the unknown

[little osprey]

I like playing games off of my Toaster. I hear that Skyrim will be being ported over to it soon.

Nope doesn't work

Tried to update it manually with the correct file

Doesn't work

[marsh dagger]

@short laurel where r u at with that buil

[sudden turret]

eh?

[little osprey]

Nvm fixed it

Had to put it in my 2nd X16 slot

Thanks anyways

[muted patio]

AH, I'll bet BIOS was set to use 1st as GPU

[proud galleon]

https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/2NE0TMRH8I6HB?ref_=wl_share

Think this will be my build, obviously will be finding better deals, but this is what I'll need to buy.

[polar holly]

@marsh dagger https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x2hshg this build should work for your game list. If you need WiFi I would recommend adding a WiFi card a good quality one can be found for around 30$

[wraith birch]

Do a lot of people actually use wifi in their desktop PC's?

[polar holly]

Many do if they don’t have access to a wired connection.

[wraith birch]

Ah, well I have a connection for every bedroom

socket?

[muted patio]

My house does not have ethernet

[wraith birch]

Forgot the term

[muted patio]

I use WiFi exclusively

[polar holly]

I ran 10g around my house

[muted patio]

currently at 600 mbps

If or when I remodel, CAT 6 is a must!

[icy plume]

@proud galleon try for a 2060 SUPER if you can get a good deal on it

[polar holly]

@proud galleon also make sure that you are getting a board that has biosflashback without a cpu or a board that is compatible out of box with third gen

[muted patio]

@proud galleon get the TUF Gaming X570 for the 3700X

X470 is a waste for 3000 series Ryzen

[proud galleon]

Alright I'll definitely be deal hunting, and will definitely be aiming for the 2060 Super if I am able.

[muted patio]

And for the same price, get a 5700XT

It blows the 2060 away

Unless you'll be streaming, then keep the 20609 for NVENC processing

[polar holly]

X470 does fine for 3000 series if you don’t need a gen4 pcie connection

[muted patio]

Yeah but

M.2

Future usefulness

You're getting the 3700X, save $20 and get the TUF gaming with X570

[polar holly]

I’m not saying it is a bad idea and I would reccomend a x570 also. But x470 and b450 are both good enough for a 3000 series

[muted patio]

Ok, you can save money and get the X570

There is literally no reason not to

[proud galleon]

Also the main reason I've gone with the 3700x is for the 8 cores because I usually have a bit running at once but even then if I were to lower my budget, would I still be about as fine with the 3600 or 3600x ?

[polar holly]

Get a 3600 rather than the x and buy a better cooler.

[muted patio]

6 core 12 threads is good, ya

[polar holly]

The added clock can be made up for with good oc

Both max out at roughly the same clock speeds

[little osprey]

Trying to update my bios and it says media not found

Already unzipped the bios file

Is it a fat 32 drive and is it <=32GB?

Lemme check

64GB and exFAT

Ok, that technically should work - could you post screenshots for further data?

[calm goblet]

was originally going to get the p400a dig for my build. parents tried to surprise me for christmas and bought the enthoo pro m glass (dont ask how i found out, im 20, its a well hidden skillset). cant tell if they just gave me an upgrade or a downgrade

[jaunty nacelle]

should i get the 3700x or 3800x

for gaming

[eager chasm]

3700X is plenty

and in most cases already overkill for gaming

[little osprey]

Anyone know where to get cords/combs for the Thermaltake 80+ White 500W?

[eager chasm]

there are very few games that will use 16 threads for gaming

@little osprey most modular power supplies all have the same plugs so you just go to cable mod or any place that sells some

[little osprey]

nice

oh wait

my psu isnt modular

😎

[eager chasm]

then you want cable extentions

[little osprey]

I can't find any for a decent price

[eager chasm]

custom ones are expensive, premade are less expensive, but still pricey

[little osprey]

like is it really necessary to drop 28 bucks on some wires

[eager chasm]

https://cablemod.com/product-category/cable-extensions/

[little osprey]

will peep

[eager chasm]

it's not necessary at all so spends a single penny on them, your PC will work without them

[little osprey]

Where do I find the buy link on the cablemod site anyways

[eager chasm]

it's a luxury accessory

[little osprey]

Got it

I might get some stealth cable combs tho

[eager chasm]

https://store.cablemod.com/configurator/

you set up what you want piece by piece on cable mod

or get premade kits

https://store.cablemod.com/product/cablemod-basic-cable-extension-kit-66-pin-series/

😄 yay, my 1TB HDD for the build for my sister got here

welp I'm off to work, good night

[gentle bay]

Am i allowed to post builds here

For like second hand opinion

[wraith mason]

sirs of this chat i would like to know of a decent build for a budget of maybe $1000-$750

or beat me up with knowlage

[gentle bay]

Could I get feedback on my proposed build? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KsRDZf

[eager chasm]

@gentle bay looks good

@wraith mason actually this guy just posted one take out the monitor, add in a HDD possibly and it's right in your price range

:D

[woven echo]

seems ok bit low on disk space tho

[limber anvil]

ye

[sand rampart]

I would like to buy a 64 gb RAM I can buy :
2x2 PACK of G.SKILL Trident Z Neo Model F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC (16D?) or
1x4 PACK of G.SKILL Trident Z Neo Model F4-3600C16Q-64GTZNC (16Q?) ??

[eager chasm]

Whatever floats you goat

[sand rampart]

@eager chasm what is the difference between 16D and 16Q?

[eager chasm]

no idea

They seem to be the the same exact thing

Really it will be the same exact performance no matter which kits you get of the same modules

[sturdy hornet]

guys, what is better gpu for budget pc, RX 580 or GTX1060

[eager chasm]

I'd have to double-check the current prices, but the RX 580 is usually the better budget item

But personally I had a 1060

Yea the 580 is a lot better budget item currently

[mild ridge]

Hey guys

Thanks for yesterday help

I was quite sleepy 😂

[eager chasm]

Dispense help like a gotcha game, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's crap.

[grave lantern]

out of these two links, wich cpu is better?

https://www.mwave.com.au/product/intel-core-i79700f-octa-core-lga-1151-300-ghz-cpu-processor-ac26434?gclid=CjwKCAiA27LvBRB0EiwAPc8XWUGEWLFPzV5GUaIpq0_KTQJ-bZX53ajjDYZ3izcSG4AmTamlezQlLRoCuWkQAvD_BwE

https://www.amazon.com.au/AMD-Ryzen-3700X-Processor-100-100000071BOX/dp/B07SXMZLPK

[stoic skiff]

Ryzen 7

[grave lantern]

thanks

[stoic skiff]

no problem

[eager chasm]

I agree, the Ryzen 7 is a much better option :D

The stock cooler is also actually useable

[grave lantern]

what about the threadripper?

https://www.amazon.com.au/AMD-Ryzen-Threadripper-3-5GHz-processor/dp/B074CBJHCT/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2NN4YZD0LEM4V&keywords=ryzen+threadripper&qid=1576141039&s=computers&sprefix=ryzen+thread%2Ccomputers%2C436&sr=1-3

[eager chasm]

Eh, 14nm threadripper it's good, but the gaming performance is meh, it also need decently heafty cooling cause it's not on the much more effcient 7nm process

[grave lantern]

ok

so im better off buying the ryzen 7?

[dry tinsel]

if you want something really wild you can get a Ryzen 9 3950X

[eager chasm]

Yea unless you just want bragging rights or have an actual workload need threadripper is overkill

[dry tinsel]

it's overkill though, people are basically calling the 3950X the top gaming CPU right now and while it may perform better than others, it is not necessary so the 3700 is likely perfect for your workload

[eager chasm]

Ryzen 7 is perfect for gaming and casual/hobbiest workloads

[dry tinsel]

even ryzen 5 is

time to sleep

[grave lantern]

Ok thanks for helping, you guys are a big help, bye 🙂

[eager chasm]

Take care

[jaunty karma]

Heyo

Need help on pc build

Getting one this friday

What should i get?

*saturday

[ember sierra]

What do u need?

Casual gaming, high-end

[jaunty karma]

A pc

[ember sierra]

Rendering

Streaming, recording

[jaunty karma]

Gaming semi stream

Also recording

Or not

I think just full on gaming

[ember sierra]

Okay

[boreal latch]

What's your budget

[jaunty karma]

Around 25,000

[ember sierra]

Kidding?

[jaunty karma]

Oh sorry wait that in my currency

Is it usd?

[ember sierra]

Or euro, or pounds

But that direction

[jaunty karma]

Lemme convert

Around 500

[ember sierra]

Okay

Let’s think

[jaunty karma]

I have a list but idk if its good enough

[ember sierra]

Send it

[jaunty karma]

Im going to type it

[ember sierra]

It’s easier to change a list than to create an entirely new one

[jaunty karma]

Msi B450 motar titanuim HyperX 2666 16 gb

Corsair smth 550w

Ryzen 3 2200g

500gb or 1tb for space

Ssd is just 120g

Thats all

Ryzen 3 or 5

[ember sierra]

So we got the mainboard, cooling, cpu and memory?

[jaunty karma]

Psu aswell

[ember sierra]

Oh yes, sry

[jaunty karma]

That can cost already about 300-400

[ember sierra]

A GPU for like 200 then...

And a chassis

[safe jackal]

where is the place to get an external pc gaming grapics card thats cheap but still standard?

[ember sierra]

@safe jackal I don’t really know about external gpu. I can only do as much research as u can and my connection is slow af rn...

This was the first thing I found

https://gameauthority.org/best-external-graphics-card/#Razer-Core-V2

[safe jackal]

@ember sierra deeply appreciated men. got a gaming laptop, was thinking of using the external gpu 4 upgrading my laptop when playing or when playing using the tv

[jaunty karma]

Heya im back

[ember sierra]

@jaunty karma Unfortunately I don’t have a lot of time rn. I can’t really find anything about the mainboard u listed, could u send me a link to the stats of it. I will be sure to do my best, otherwise I have some time tomorrow. Whatever timezone ur in, my tomorrow is in a few hours.

And @safe jackal your welcome; I don’t use laptops but an extern gpu sounds interesting

[jaunty karma]

Oh i did the naming wrong

Its B360M

Like this

[ember sierra]

Ok, give me a sec

[jaunty karma]

Just saying already have a case

My time rn is 6:32 pm

[ember sierra]

Tell me about ur case, the mainboard and graphics have to fit in it

and the mainboard u mean is an intel mainboard. it doesn’t support ryzen cpu

[jaunty karma]

Noo

Can you suggest some?

[ember sierra]

A different mainboard?

[jaunty karma]

How about a H130 gaming artic

[keen steeple]

@jaunty karma what is the name of this case?

[ember sierra]

Good question

[keen steeple]

Ngl looks great

[jaunty karma]

Rakk Hunit

[ember sierra]

And the Name of the case would let me be able to find the size of it

The H310 gaming Arctic (if that’s what u meant) is also intel

[jaunty karma]

It only cost 35 dollars

How about aorus motherboards?

[ember sierra]

It depends on the chipset support of the socket

[jaunty karma]

Well in going to a PC mall on Saturday

[ember sierra]

Not the company

[jaunty karma]

Maybe ill find there

And question

How to you power molex powered fans?

[ember sierra]

U will need a molex type cable, either ur psu has one or u need some kinda adapter etc

[jaunty karma]

Ok

Cause i bought fans that i though it was sata powered

[ember sierra]

SATA is more common, thus easier. I have to go to bed now. It’s 11:40 pm for me, any questions u can dm me if u want. I will answer asap

[jaunty karma]

Ok

Gn

See u tomorrow

[ember sierra]

Bb

[keen steeple]

@jaunty karma this case looks awesome, but I can't find it outside the Philippines

[jaunty karma]

Yeah

I think rakk is a php country

Php company*

@keen steeple

Side view without glass and front panel

[eager chasm]

Maybe oneday I'll actually put money and effort into a case that is more than $40

[jaunty karma]

35

Bought it 2k php

With panel

It was on sale when i bought it

I also added a few things

[eager chasm]

The case I just bought for $35

Has a glass side panel

[sudden turret]

@jaunty karma them fans are great.

[jaunty karma]

Problem with the fans

[sudden turret]

?

[jaunty karma]

Its molexed powered

Which i dont know how to use

[sudden turret]

should have molex on your PSU

is it a single fan that came with case?

[jaunty karma]

No

Bought it separately

It was a sale that day

[sudden turret]

darkflash dr12??

[jaunty karma]

11

[eager chasm]

Most PSU, have a molex power, usually on same cable as sata power

[sudden turret]

I've never heard of dr11 lol

[jaunty karma]

Epic cable management

[sudden turret]

but the dr12s came with a hub

hub went to sata power, then fans connected to that.

[jaunty karma]

But

Still empty

[peak kiln]

Should be a connection on your sata wires

[jaunty karma]

Getting the rest at Saturday

[sudden turret]

they are really quiet fans though, even at 100%

[jaunty karma]

I have 2 extra fans

I have 4 of them attached to the case

Im also new to the pc industry

[sudden turret]

welcome 🙂

lol

[jaunty karma]

But i watch linus tech tips

But im not shure about what parts im getting

Since this confuses me lots

[eager chasm]

🤔 hope your parts are all compatable

[jaunty karma]

Well

The other guy said its not

[sudden turret]

what other guy.

lol

[jaunty karma]

Since i got a intel motherboard and a amd cpu

[eager chasm]

What did you get?

[sudden turret]

oh no 😦

[jaunty karma]

Nonk

[eager chasm]

Oh yeah that's not good

[jaunty karma]

I havent bought it

But it was in my list

[eager chasm]

That's a very easy mistake to someone who doesn't ask ahead of time

Oh good

[jaunty karma]

Im going to a pc mall

[sudden turret]

follow the Ryoku.

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This Saturday

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What CPU do you want?

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Ryzen

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Which one?

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3 or 5

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Which gen?

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Probably the lastest

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And I'd suggest 5

3 isnt good for gaming

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Well i have a limited budget

Thats why im buying the rest so i doest affect my budget

Like the case and fans

Bought it with my savings

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Nice

What kind of game are you looking to play?

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Well i bought lots in black friday

Like insurgency sandstorm and pubg

But i plan to use it mostly on rainbow six siege

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I see

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And getting a chair aswell

To improve my gameplay

This kills me

Look

I miss placed it

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🤔 if you can fit it into your budget I highly recommend the Ryzen 5 instead of the Ryzen 3. Ryzen 3 only has 4c/4t which with newer games usually isn't enough

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Okie dokie

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You can use a B450 board to save some money, just as long as it has a Ryzen 3000 ready sticker on it

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How about a strix b365 f ?

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A what?

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Asus ROG STRIX B365-F?

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Brb

No that's an Intel board

Pay attention to the spesific number of B450

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check the socket type from the CPU you want to use, and search for boards with that

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Ok

Asrock B450 Steel legend

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that will work

As long as the box has a Ryzen 3000 ready sricker

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Oki

So i should make a list

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See the sticker on the corner of that motherboard box?

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What do i need

Yes

Is that yours

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It's long and orange :)

That's the official Ryzen 3000 ready sticker for older board

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Oki

So

Ima make a new list