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eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 7:25 AM

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VMception

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😂

mild ridge Dec 10, 2019, 7:25 AM

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And if the VM software was written in java

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 7:26 AM

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Lmao

mild ridge Dec 10, 2019, 7:26 AM

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Then it will be a VM in a VM in a VM

lyric thistle Dec 10, 2019, 7:26 AM

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NYEHE

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 7:28 AM

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Soo remote desktop from a phone to use a mobile emulator to pretend your phone is more powerful than it really is

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IQ 200

lyric thistle Dec 10, 2019, 7:30 AM

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BIG brain

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 7:39 AM

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lmao nice

mild ridge Dec 10, 2019, 7:43 AM

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Don't doubt some phones company have done it already 😂

patent steppe Dec 10, 2019, 8:30 AM

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I am going to build my first pc today

mild ridge Dec 10, 2019, 8:33 AM

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Nice :) what spec?

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 8:46 AM

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Yay welcome to the DIY scene

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Specs or part list?

patent steppe Dec 10, 2019, 9:50 AM

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Ryzen 5 3600 , 1660 super with the b450m pro 4 @mild ridge

eternal meteor Dec 10, 2019, 9:55 AM

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I've got a ryzen 5 3600, 1660ti with a steel legend b450.

mild ridge Dec 10, 2019, 10:15 AM

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@patent steppe Nice man, do you mind to tell me how much it costed? I am thinking about building another one for my kid

patent steppe Dec 10, 2019, 10:15 AM

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I live in the Netherlands for me it costed 800

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€

mild ridge Dec 10, 2019, 10:16 AM

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Nice 😄 I also live in the Netherlands 😄

patent steppe Dec 10, 2019, 10:16 AM

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Ow lol

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Nice

mild ridge Dec 10, 2019, 10:16 AM

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But I dont speak dutch :/

patent steppe Dec 10, 2019, 10:16 AM

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Are you busy learning it?

mild ridge Dec 10, 2019, 10:17 AM

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My wife is learning it, waiting on her, then she can teach me

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My two kids speak it as well

patent steppe Dec 10, 2019, 10:17 AM

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Let’s talk in #general-chat

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 12:27 PM

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Can someone help me with my build, I bought a new mother board https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-b450-f-gaming/p/N82E16813119140?Description=ASUS+-+ROG+Strix+B450-F&cm_re=ASUS_-_ROG_Strix_B450-F-_-13-119-140-_-Product

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And I’m not sure if vengeance pro ram is compatible

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https://www.newegg.com/corsair-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236421?item=N82E16820236421&source=googleshopping&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-mobile&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-mobile-_-pla-_-memory+(desktop+memory)-_-N82E16820236421&gclid=CjwKCAiAob3vBRAUEiwAIbs5TjMfIYIFDGr-MbUuvdB8PsMxqo5OePvBOsNjRImF_qyPwtpHzQ5aEhoC1N0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds this is the ram

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 12:29 PM

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You can check the QVL list on the strix

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but Corsair is good about being compatible with everything

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 12:29 PM

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Alright I’ll check thanks

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 12:29 PM

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also good choice in mobo and ram

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I've used that board

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 12:29 PM

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Would I need the exact motherboard or just strip

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Strix*

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Thanks

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 12:30 PM

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https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-B450-F-GAMING/HelpDesk_QVL/

ASUS USA

ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING Memory / Device Support | Motherboards | ...

ASUS ROG Strix B450-F Gaming Motherboard - Next-level performance: 2nd gen. AMD processors, 5-Way Optimization, Fan Xpert 4, Aura Sync. POWER.

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make ysure you look at the right one for the CPU you have

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1st, 2nd, or 3rd

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 12:37 PM

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Okay

gentle lake Dec 10, 2019, 12:44 PM

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2060s armor, i5-9600k, msi z370 gaming plus, 2tb 7200rpm seagate, 512gb adata ssd

fossil hedge Dec 10, 2019, 12:55 PM

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📎 aWE7Yo6_460s.png

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 2:43 PM

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@proven veldt what debug lights are those

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if you have the manual, should tell you what which one is/means

proven veldt Dec 10, 2019, 2:43 PM

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Can someone help me with my pc? I got the dram light and cpu light on, I thought it was a motherboard problem but I changed motherboard and it’s still the same, when I unplug the CPU power the dram light goes off and only the cpu light stays on. Does someone know how to fix this? Ram and cpu aren’t old, maybe 6 months. I7 7700k and 16gb ram of ballistix

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Let me check

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 2:44 PM

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also what motherboard is it

proven veldt Dec 10, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Msi b250 gaming m3

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 2:44 PM

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fresh build?

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or it just started error

proven veldt Dec 10, 2019, 2:45 PM

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No it’s almost a year old , but I changed the cpu cooler and now I suddenly have this problem so I changed the motherboard and still have the same problem

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 2:45 PM

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do you have the cooler fan plugged in the correct header?

proven veldt Dec 10, 2019, 2:45 PM

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Cpu fan 1

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 2:46 PM

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you can reset cmos

proven veldt Dec 10, 2019, 2:46 PM

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How do I do that ?

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I changed motherboard tho so why does this motherboard also have it

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 2:47 PM

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you'll have to see what the deblug light tells you

proven veldt Dec 10, 2019, 2:47 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 2:48 PM

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if its lighting up the cpu, double check you have it seated in correctly

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if it lighting up the ram, just try one ram stick

proven veldt Dec 10, 2019, 2:48 PM

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📎 video0.mov

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It flashes the cpu for a second

coarse coral Dec 10, 2019, 2:48 PM

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SipCiv

proven veldt Dec 10, 2019, 2:48 PM

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I’m sure the cpu is seated correctly

coarse coral Dec 10, 2019, 2:48 PM

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what cpu

proven veldt Dec 10, 2019, 2:49 PM

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I7 7700k

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 2:49 PM

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it was working fine before you changed coolers?

proven veldt Dec 10, 2019, 2:49 PM

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Yes it was

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 2:49 PM

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you could have zapped something :\

proven veldt Dec 10, 2019, 2:49 PM

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Yikes

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 2:49 PM

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would be my guess

coarse coral Dec 10, 2019, 2:49 PM

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how tight did you fasten it

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 2:49 PM

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if you replaced mobo, and it's still doing it

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something happened during the handling of CPU would be my guess

proven veldt Dec 10, 2019, 2:50 PM

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That’s sour

coarse coral Dec 10, 2019, 2:50 PM

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try loosing the air cooler so it doesnt press too hard on the cpu

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MonkaSS

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Check pins. https://www.amazon.com/Computer-PC-Tester-Connectors-Enclosure/dp/B076CLNPPK/ are also good investments, or a multimeter

proven veldt Dec 10, 2019, 2:50 PM

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I don’t think I tightened it that hard but I’m a mechanic so I probably did have

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Yeah I tried that @coarse coral

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 2:51 PM

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but yeah.. something happend 😦

proven veldt Dec 10, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Sucks

coarse coral Dec 10, 2019, 2:51 PM

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reseating the ram too?

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because the led is flashing also in that video

proven veldt Dec 10, 2019, 2:52 PM

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Bought a different motherboard and that didn’t fit in my case so also bought a different case 😂

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Yeah I tried reseating the ram but I can put it in a different slot

coarse coral Dec 10, 2019, 2:52 PM

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try one stick also

proven veldt Dec 10, 2019, 2:52 PM

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Alright

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I think it worked

coarse coral Dec 10, 2019, 2:53 PM

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SipCiv

proven veldt Dec 10, 2019, 2:53 PM

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I started the pc and there was a red light on dram

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It’s off now

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 2:53 PM

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hmm, skylake had issues with that due to a thin package, but kaby supposedly fixed them. I put the .6 NM torque on all screws, all bottomed out, no bends. D15 / 7700k

proven veldt Dec 10, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Oh no nvm it came back

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😦

coarse coral Dec 10, 2019, 2:53 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/kanna-sleepy-misskobayashi-dragon-maid-gif-8053555

Tenor

proven veldt Dec 10, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Ah no nvm that’s the boot led

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I don’t have my boot connected

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I have 1 stick of ram installed

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Is the other one bad then ?

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Was it a UEFI boot volume?

coarse coral Dec 10, 2019, 2:55 PM

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is it booting to windows?

proven veldt Dec 10, 2019, 2:55 PM

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I don’t have any boot driver installed

coarse coral Dec 10, 2019, 2:55 PM

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oh....

proven veldt Dec 10, 2019, 2:55 PM

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I’ll do it now

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 2:56 PM

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yuck

proven veldt Dec 10, 2019, 3:15 PM

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It works fine now, I tried to put that other stick of ram in every available slot but it doesn’t work

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I’m guessing that ram stick is broken then ?

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Aside from a dirty contact, yep, probably. Many brands give lifetime warranty though

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 3:21 PM

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you must've had an static charge on you when you was in there fingering around swapping out the cooler

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but that's a lot cheaper than having to replace the cpu.

soft walrus Dec 10, 2019, 3:51 PM

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so i got this business compuiter from an office they were throwing away

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could i upgrade it and make it better?

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 3:53 PM

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I'd put a network card in it if you can find one compatible and use for a router.

soft walrus Dec 10, 2019, 3:58 PM

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cool

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 4:06 PM

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o:

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dang

tardy olive Dec 10, 2019, 4:09 PM

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anyone know a good pc for under 600 for my cousin
want maxed out specs
UK Shipping

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 4:09 PM

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how long should I hold my heatsink to the motherboard? or should I just fasten that clasp?

tardy olive Dec 10, 2019, 4:13 PM

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fasten the clasp @old charm

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 4:14 PM

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okay thank you

tranquil dust Dec 10, 2019, 4:26 PM

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@tardy olive I can work on one

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Altho I’m doing school so dm me at 3:00

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 4:40 PM

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did you just ask for maxed specs for under 600

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/LwGwgJ

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this is my build rn

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i’m still looking for a used gpu

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but this it is so far

tardy olive Dec 10, 2019, 4:42 PM

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ok

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 4:43 PM

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@little osprey RAM is pretty bad on timings

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Also if you ever cant go used for some odd reason, that 1660Ti is majorly overpriced

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So is that SSD, Might as well get a Sabrent Rocket for cheaper and it's better by a decent amount

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 4:45 PM

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this ssd is the cheapest that shows up on pcpartpicker

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for a 1tb nvme

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 4:49 PM

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I guess I forgot about that ca part in the link. Would suggest the HP EX920 tho cuz much better on the cache part of things

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about $15 more

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 4:51 PM

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alright i’ll look into that, but yeah canada has a lot less options for stuff like that, but i’m trying to find a better used gpu for cheaper, i’ve found a 1080ti for about 350usd

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thinking about that one

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it’s a little expensive but worth it

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well for a 1080ti it’s not but compared to the 1660ti

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 4:56 PM

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oof you can buy a new 1660 Ti for that price

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and it'll be on par with that 1080 maybe even better

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i know its better than my 1070 Ti

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the 1660 also consumes less power which means your PSU budget can loosen a bit too

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 5:00 PM

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is it possible that my motherboard alredy has one of the brackets needed to install the cooler so I can skip I step

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because its either that or I am not understanding this diagram

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and am I wrong to think that bracket that snaps into place when you put the cooler on is temporary?

indigo crow Dec 10, 2019, 5:02 PM

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Thoughts?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:03 PM

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i don't see anything

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:03 PM

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@tardy olive https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/yVqCdm

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@sleek elm ummm. That 1660Ti is 1070 level

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not 1080 level

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:03 PM

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its much more than 1070 ti level

indigo crow Dec 10, 2019, 5:04 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8LWgBZ

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My bad

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Thoughts

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:04 PM

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my RX 480 was more than my 1070 Ti tho... so idk

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:04 PM

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you really think a 1660ti is better than a 1080ti??

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1080ti has almost double the vram

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:04 PM

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don't think you can do X470 on 3rd gen Ryzen

indigo crow Dec 10, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Need bios update

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:05 PM

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@sleek elm a 480 is MAJORLY weaker than a 1070Ti

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:05 PM

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@little osprey mhmm ok, so i said 1080 Ti not 1070 Ti, thanks for clearing that up for me.

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:05 PM

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https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1660-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1080-Ti/4037vs3918

UserBenchmark: Nvidia GTX 1080-Ti vs 1660-Ti

Based on 458,460 user benchmarks for the Nvidia GTX 1080-Ti and the GTX 1660-Ti, we rank them both on effective speed and value for money against the best 627 GPUs.

fiery depot Dec 10, 2019, 5:05 PM

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nvida all the way

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the 1660 is a nice budget card but is not better than the 1080 at all

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:06 PM

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that’s exactly it

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if i can’t find a used card for a good deal

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or a new one for a good deal

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:06 PM

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@cursive wharf thats what i thought but i was running Wildlands maxed at 100+ FPS with the 480 and now i'm lucky to get 30fps on the 1070

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:06 PM

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i’ll get the 1660

fiery depot Dec 10, 2019, 5:06 PM

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whats your budget santa?

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:07 PM

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@sleek elm you done goof on drivers, GPU BIOS, or faulty card

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:07 PM

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/LwGwgJ

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tryna keep it below 1500 cad

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:07 PM

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was a reference MSI card from Ebay

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:08 PM

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with taxes? @little osprey

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:08 PM

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my 1070 Ti is an EVGA from Newegg

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:08 PM

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before taxes

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:09 PM

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I've had a 970, 1060 3GB, 1070, 1070Ti, and 1080Ti
Can tell you that the 1070Ti wasnt garbage

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:09 PM

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well, it did what i bought it for, so i didn't complain much about it

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:09 PM

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i know a guy who said he has a new 2080 for 400usd

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:09 PM

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3DS Max final gather rendering

fiery depot Dec 10, 2019, 5:10 PM

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aye santa take that deal

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:10 PM

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or 450

fiery depot Dec 10, 2019, 5:10 PM

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the new 2080? for 400 thats close to what your paying for the 1660

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even 450

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id take that deal now it will future proof you well

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:10 PM

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mhmm

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:10 PM

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If it's $400 then take it. If not then 5700XT

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or 1080Ti for 350

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:11 PM

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depending on how much i make this week, i’ll consider it

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:11 PM

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however, you may run into issues with game crashes using RTX cards, but they should be patched fairly soon now.

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:11 PM

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1080Ti for 350 rn is best deal

fiery depot Dec 10, 2019, 5:11 PM

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yeah santa go for the 1080ti if its 360

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:11 PM

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i know that APB is unplayable with RTX cards

fiery depot Dec 10, 2019, 5:11 PM

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350

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:11 PM

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RTX is a gimmick. Needs to be a few generations before it'll actually be decent

fiery depot Dec 10, 2019, 5:12 PM

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im getting the 2070s

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:12 PM

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it needs to be a completely disableable feature

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:12 PM

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1080ti is what i’m looking for rn, because it’s similar to the 2080ti just no rtx

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which i didn’t plan on using anyway

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:12 PM

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2080 you mean

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2080Ti is 20 - 30% better than 1080Ti

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:12 PM

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yeah 2080 Ti is much more than 1080 Ti

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2080 Ti is like a GTX TITAN right?

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:13 PM

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@fiery depot tbh just get a 5700XT unless you need CUDA or NVENC

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:13 PM

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yeah 2080 my bad

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:13 PM

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on that note

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nvenc if you plan on streaming

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nvenc 2 now right?

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:13 PM

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but 1080ti is also significantly cheaper

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:13 PM

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not really "2". There have been quite a few generations of NVENC

fiery depot Dec 10, 2019, 5:14 PM

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@cursive wharf i prefer nvida cards over amd

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:14 PM

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preference just wastes your money

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:14 PM

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i know OBS says it specifically as 2.0 (newer)

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Get whatever is good in perf and price

fiery depot Dec 10, 2019, 5:14 PM

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but the 2070s has better performance/

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:15 PM

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by like 3%, for 25% more cost

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:15 PM

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yeah like someone i know who bought an 8800 GTS cuz was nvidia lol

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i mean yeah it was a good card, 8 years ago

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you can't even minecraft on it now

fiery depot Dec 10, 2019, 5:15 PM

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more than 3% plus i want to take advantage of the rtx features

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the new cod game has ray tracing

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:16 PM

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got one of those 6 games eh?

still roostBOT Dec 10, 2019, 5:16 PM

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santa claus#6969 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:16 PM

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Believe me, 99% of people will like RTX for a week then forget about it

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cuz frames

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:16 PM

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oh wow 1080ti destroys the 1070ti

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:16 PM

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well yeah

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its the flagship

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:16 PM

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Do you guys think we could make this into some kind of fun competition?

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:17 PM

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?

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:17 PM

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Rather than the stale boring 5700 xt vs 2070 etc we see every day?

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:17 PM

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5700XT and 2070S a fun competition? lol

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:17 PM

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I mean, the goal being tom make it fun

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:17 PM

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how tho?

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:17 PM

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i mean AMD cards are good for... specifically.............. i got nothing... OpenCL?

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:18 PM

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If I had the cheaper card - I'd submit a photo where I blew the spare cash on a lazer light show of rgb etc idk

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:18 PM

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So like, saving money on GPU to spend else where?

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:18 PM

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I mean, first let's maybe work on the hard facts

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:19 PM

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i spent $65 on a high powered blue laser pen, batteries and charger and now have a blue light saber in the early morning fog before the sun rises

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:19 PM

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There's quite a bit that both sides red/green simply can't argue against.

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If you want CUDA - green, NVENC for single pc gpu hardware encoder streaming? green, TL;DR various features, green, but incredible performance / $ and great OC potential, red red red

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:20 PM

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are we gonna introduce Blue when they get theirs out for sale?

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and what exactly would they specialize in?

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i've heard it said its the biggest GPU die ever

tame crystal Dec 10, 2019, 5:21 PM

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I don't know, Linus Tech Tips did an interesting video an Intel vid card

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:21 PM

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yeah but that card was over 5 years old

tame crystal Dec 10, 2019, 5:21 PM

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True

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:21 PM

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Knights landing was interesting, $100 ebay used now, I don't know much about them though, 60 core xeons iirc

tame crystal Dec 10, 2019, 5:22 PM

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I think that they would be more workstation oriented

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:22 PM

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the new info i saw i think was on google homepage on my phone

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:22 PM

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Oh man, imagine if they focused on Adobe CC hardware acceleration

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:22 PM

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i'm curious how they'll get HT on a GPU

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cuz you know that's what they're gonna do lol

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:23 PM

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Here is my take.
2070S has:
-NVENC
->sure, But fair bit of the time a decent CPU with CPU encoding can be well. So say 3600+2070S over 3700x+5700XT. Same streaming quality but depending on task the latter can sometimes come out on top cuz better CPU
-CUDA
->If you need it, then yes
-RTX
->Too weak as of now. Kills frames over a small visual gain. Few generations from now I hope I can recommend RT but rn I cant
-gsync
->only useful if your current monitor is gsync. Considering new gsync monitors are now freesync compatible that wont matter much, but current existing ones are compatible

tame crystal Dec 10, 2019, 5:24 PM

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^ This is why I am just going 1660Ti

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:24 PM

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I'd say 1660S over the Ti

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:24 PM

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Both sides basically have VRR

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:24 PM

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using x264 you will notice FPS drop, using NVENC 2 you won't notice any fps drop and it hardly taxes the GPU for the same quality

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:24 PM

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with a decent CPU those FPS drops are generally not too noticeable

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:24 PM

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@little osprey yes and no

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nvidia has to personally test and verify the VRR will work with their type of VRR

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otherwise its compatible with their VRR

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:25 PM

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Anyway, maybe we can start up a community spreadsheet? Or I can - I'll ask the mod mods etc, but I can't help but think there's a less dreary way to answer these questions

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Also I like competitions all in good fun

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They don't have to test it.

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:26 PM

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competition; just battle to the death

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:26 PM

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It's like ddr4 QVL

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:26 PM

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i have 24 amd cores before TR, do i win?

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:26 PM

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But there are certainly those handful of displayport monitors that cannot do freesync despite having the DP spec

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:26 PM

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wait... does it have to be installed? cuz if no then i have 48

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:26 PM

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It's baked into dp 1.2a

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Freesync is VESA and royalty free

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:27 PM

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wait

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i thought VRR was VESA

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:27 PM

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only gave the VRR point cuz you may have a gsync monitor already. Which as such cant be used with freesync so 5700XT is a bit "meh"

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:27 PM

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and FS was AMD

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:27 PM

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VRR = variable refresh rate, the generic term

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:27 PM

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but

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VESA designed the technical aspects of VRR

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AMD and Nvidia made their versions of it

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:27 PM

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In 2019, if you're buying a $300+ gpu, I cannot recommend a VRR monitor enough.

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save for edge cases where you don't need my recommendation

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:28 PM

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i'm getting two freesync 144hz monitors tomorrow

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1ms

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:28 PM

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basically afaik, only like pro use cases for no VRR

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:28 PM

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i've been on 60hz 5ms this whole time

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:28 PM

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Been playing 1.6 since your 6 dig steamid? ya , those dudes know what works ofr them

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:29 PM

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actually... i've never played higher than 60fps

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cuz 60hz

tame crystal Dec 10, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Same. I have 7 years old Viewsonic monitors.

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:30 PM

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went from 60 to 144 to 100

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:30 PM

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lol thats the brand i'm getting!

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Some game engines like csgo and overwatch benefir from fps_max 999 etc or lower ofc but >> 60 on a 60Hz monitor

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:30 PM

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i'm getting the gaming edition of Viewsonic

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staying with 1080p tho

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:30 PM

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ah yes, that classical "gaming" branding

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:31 PM

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well

tame crystal Dec 10, 2019, 5:31 PM

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Looking at a Sceptre 30" 85hz 1ms 2k monitor

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:31 PM

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if it says gaming and is higher than 75hz then i believe gaming

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oh oof

tame crystal Dec 10, 2019, 5:31 PM

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It also has FreeSync

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:31 PM

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i've had a sceptre

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it was garbage

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:31 PM

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2k as in, 1080p or 1440p?

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:31 PM

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2k is 2160

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:32 PM

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no

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k refers to horizontal res

tame crystal Dec 10, 2019, 5:32 PM

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Let me check

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:32 PM

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not vertical res

tame crystal Dec 10, 2019, 5:32 PM

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2560 x 1080

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:32 PM

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4k = 2160 x 3840

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ah, ultrawide 1080

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:32 PM

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2k = 2560 x 1440, 4k = ^

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:33 PM

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1080p seems to also be commonly referred to 2k

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:33 PM

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📎 resolutions.png

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:33 PM

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from what I know

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:33 PM

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now you know

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:33 PM

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1080p is never 2k, always HD or full HD or 1080p

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yep, wqhd is common too

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:33 PM

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well I mean, 4k exists, with that 3840 res

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not exact 4k but close

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same with 8k

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:34 PM

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2K and 4K are non standard HD resolutions

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ah 2160 is UHD my bad

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lol 2K is 1080 still lol

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:35 PM

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which is why it's so annoyyinggg

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:35 PM

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ikr?

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what was so wrong with 16:9 aspect?

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just HAD to make it 17:9 now

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remember letterbox monitors?

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21:9 >.<

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:36 PM

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well they wanted rounded off numbers I guess

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:36 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/JP3GAf9.png

Imgur

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:36 PM

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hey, I have 21:9

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:36 PM

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TBH I likd 16 10 more

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1920 x 1200 was nice, my first lcd was a 1680 x 1050 haha

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:37 PM

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when i see TV's at the store saying they're UHD 4K i'm like... "so which is it?"

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:38 PM

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Dell ultrasharp U2410's with the full s-ips panels were top tier for color/picture at the time iirc

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:38 PM

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1920x1200... thats an HP laptop resolution!

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i've had that!

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:38 PM

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well 4k is kinda like TB in terminology. It can mean multiple things. Decimal (1000^3), binary (1024^3), kinda both (1000x1000x1024)

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:39 PM

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idk

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if it says 4K then its 4K not UHD

tranquil dust Dec 10, 2019, 5:39 PM

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** UPOPULAR OPINION ** || pre builts are cheaper than diy pcs ||

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:39 PM

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cuz UHD is 16:9 and 4k is 17:9

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:39 PM

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lmao wys

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prebuilts are cheaper

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lol

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ok

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@parts Yes they definitely can be - nothing is free, including one's time.

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:40 PM

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obviously if its 4K it can do UHD

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:40 PM

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@tranquil dust sometimes, if you get a good deal

tranquil dust Dec 10, 2019, 5:40 PM

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yea lol

indigo crow Dec 10, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Anyone fancy building a pc for 1400 dollars?

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showing me the build?

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for gaming

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:40 PM

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/BJCRK4

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this is mine rn

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:40 PM

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2nd Gen AMD can do that for 1400

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:40 PM

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1400 cad

tranquil dust Dec 10, 2019, 5:41 PM

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@indigo crow dm me

indigo crow Dec 10, 2019, 5:41 PM

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@little osprey you can do much better

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:42 PM

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how so

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:42 PM

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O.o

tranquil dust Dec 10, 2019, 5:42 PM

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thants dank

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:42 PM

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thats canadian dollars

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:42 PM

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oh yeah no, you do NOT want a B series Mobo on 3rd gen

tame crystal Dec 10, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Anyone know how good Pixio brand monitors are?

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Why nafryti

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:43 PM

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any recommendations for alternative mobos? idk much about amd

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Theres nothing wrong with B series mobos afaik

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:43 PM

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the 3rd gens consume a lot of power

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 5:43 PM

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And..? Its like running a 2700x on a b450 board

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:44 PM

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sure you can bios update, but they lack sufficient cooling

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:44 PM

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b450's can be fine for a 3600. eh, depends how you run them and in what case. Plenty of data from user testing.

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:44 PM

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imagine that, running what its designed for works

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 5:44 PM

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Most dont need bios updates

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:44 PM

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@indigo crow Here is my real quick and basic build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YRvPFG

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 5:44 PM

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If you buy new

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:44 PM

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im using an aio cooler for it too

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That said, tbh I'd spend the extra 60 and go for a x570 tuf on sale.

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:44 PM

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^

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Sufficient cooling on VRMs?

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:45 PM

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or Asus Prime P

indigo crow Dec 10, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Cheers

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Nafryti wdym lack enough cooling

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:46 PM

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also many of MSIs B450 can easily handle a 3900x

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:46 PM

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srsly? do you not have eyes to look for yourself?

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 5:46 PM

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??

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:46 PM

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i mean, i wouldn't

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do what you want

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 5:47 PM

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Alrighr because I'm gonna be running a 3800x off of a MSI b450 board

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:47 PM

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dont see why not

📎 unknown.png

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:47 PM

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I was just about to lol - https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1046357-motherboard-tier-list-x570-update/

Linus Tech Tips

Motherboard Tier List (X570 update)

Credit to:@VegetableStu @Jurrunio @GoldenLag The following list is based on facts, ranked on power delivery and known problems. The list will include modern motherboards for both Intel and AMD chips From Asus, Asrock, Biostar EVGA, Gigabyte, MSI, NZXT and Supermicro (chipsets...

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:47 PM

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ha

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I win

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:47 PM

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If you're here from LTT - you probably know luke

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 5:47 PM

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I have a friend run ryzen 3rd gen off a b350 board lol

Tho its a 3400g

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:48 PM

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yooo thatd be sick

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cooling with liquid nitrogen

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:49 PM

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@little osprey Do you know what the ! means?

📎 unknown.png

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:49 PM

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BIOS update needed

cursive wharf Dec 10, 2019, 5:49 PM

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many x470s dont have that tho

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even x370

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:50 PM

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higher end boards

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 5:50 PM

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B450 doesn't even need it

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B350 didn't

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:50 PM

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you missed it then, cuz its on there

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:50 PM

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Trust me, if you think you'll be doing this whole PC hardware hobby for some time - bios flashing is going to be really useful skill

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 5:50 PM

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Also that

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Bios flashing can be easy on some boards

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:51 PM

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ASUS makes it effortless with network BIOS

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:51 PM

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Same with keeping a flash drive on hand with a recovery environment of choice, I use a pendrive linux multiboot , usually using Hirens PE.
Also while we're on this, learn to diskpart, sfc, and dism

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/6hF48d/asus-prime-x470-pro-atx-am4-motherboard-prime-x470-pro

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hows this compared to the tomahawk max

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:52 PM

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ASUS has a boot shell to install

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:52 PM

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What I listed above is a fix for probably half of the tech support forum posts

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:52 PM

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i forget what its called

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Ima stick with MSI flashing with usb
No need for fancy wifi flashing

sleek elm Dec 10, 2019, 5:52 PM

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LAN*

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wouldn't trust a wireless flash anyways

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 5:56 PM

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I was scrolled up and saw someone said Prebuilts are cheaper than DIY...

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StaffSpookUBloodyWotM8

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 5:56 PM

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lmao ik

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 5:58 PM

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most prebuilts have intels and in most cases that's overpaying for something right there

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 6:01 PM

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i really don't understand this cooler diagram

indigo crow Dec 10, 2019, 6:04 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8LWgBZ thoughts

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 6:05 PM

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Well, I like PCs, most of you all probably do to, but I don't repair my car, nor my phone screen. Just not my interest. But I still like driving to work and well, nothing useufl on the phone - you getit

tranquil dust Dec 10, 2019, 6:05 PM

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your gonna need more storage

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and your psu is overkill

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oh and some AMD X470 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 6:07 PM

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@indigo crow seems good, go for it 😄

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 6:08 PM

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a $81 750 GQ is kinda just ok - sounds minor - but it's different cabling vs T2/P2/G2 /G3 etc other superflower leadex. Except for the CPU cable.

hasty jay Dec 10, 2019, 6:15 PM

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hi

tame crystal Dec 10, 2019, 6:28 PM

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How reliable are refurbished video cards from Newegg?

tame crystal Dec 10, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Hmm Aorus Ultra, Aorus Master or ASUS ROG Strix Z390-E? Thoughts?

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All close in price, all close in specs. Then there is the ASUS Code for 360 USD

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 6:57 PM

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anyone else have a problem where you get like 30-40 FPS in a game then you restart your computer and it's at 90-100 FPS?

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sometimes I feed my system trolls me by underperforming lol

tame crystal Dec 10, 2019, 6:58 PM

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lol mine bogs down too, but I think it is rebelling because it is 7 years old and wants to be put down 😂

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 6:59 PM

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but mine is new XD

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300% improvement run to run is kinda like WTF was it doing the first time

thorn prism Dec 10, 2019, 7:06 PM

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Whoever does the cable management for cyberpower needs to be fired. I hate the cable management in my computer

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 7:09 PM

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how bad is it?

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pic in pics chat please 😄

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 7:24 PM

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@indigo crow Ima suggest a mp510 960gb for just 125$

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looks nice otherwise

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drunken I got a refurb mobo, came missing some parts but good otherwise

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thank god m.2 screw was still there

tame crystal Dec 10, 2019, 7:26 PM

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k

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 7:26 PM

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So its hit and miss

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bc it came without wifi antennas... And my router is 2 rooms away, and we had no ethernet cables that can reach half that

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 7:28 PM

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I am confused. is there anything I have to do after I secure my cooler down with the clasping mechanism?

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Plug the fan in?

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 7:29 PM

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my cooler came with a shitload of parts but I am not sure I have to use them

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 7:29 PM

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probablt not

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you only need the parts relevant to your socket

#

😄 under a VERY heavy load my GPU is setting at 77C sustained, not too bad 🙂

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top of the PC feels like a furnace though

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 7:51 PM

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what’s your cooling setup

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because i’m just using my aio and then the fans that come with the case

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which i think should be good but not 100%

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 7:54 PM

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I use the ONLY design the VII ever came in and a stock Prism for my CPU.

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my case fans are in a 5 fan config, 2 in, 3 out

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 7:55 PM

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maybe a better cpu coolerwho knows

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 7:57 PM

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realistically 77C on both parts with very beefy games isn't a bad temp to sit at

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the CPU doesn't even drop it's boost

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 7:57 PM

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I mean it really shouldnt

#

if it drop its boost thats an issue

#

its at a fine temp for now

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if it ever goes 80+ start to be careful

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 7:59 PM

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junction temp is 85, but that's the single hottest sensor on the VII

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total temp is still 77

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 8:00 PM

#

avg or

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if I remember correctly 90+ is when it starts throttling

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 8:11 PM

#

does anyone here have a tomahawk b450 motherboard?

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 8:12 PM

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I have a msi b450 gaming pro carbon ac
close enough?

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 8:13 PM

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is your heatsink just attatched by a clasp?

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 8:13 PM

#

?

quartz coral Dec 10, 2019, 8:13 PM

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any good motherboards for like $100

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 8:13 PM

#

my CPU cooler?

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@quartz coral depends on what socket and what chipset

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My CPU cooler is screwed in

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 8:14 PM

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The reason I am asking is I have an aftermarket cooler and I'm pretty sure all I need to do is clasp it down and lock it in

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:14 PM

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I had a MSI B450M Mortar Titanium

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And it was amazing

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@old charm what cooler what CPU

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Its screwing it in nowadays I believe

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Typically aftermarket coolers require a backplate

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That comes with the cooler

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 8:15 PM

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i have the amd ryzen 5 3600

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and a coolermaster hyper 212 cooler

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Ick

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I only say ick because I hate that cooler

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I used one on my i7 2600k for years

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 8:16 PM

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cliping is usually Intel chips idk tho

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 8:16 PM

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well the only other one I have is a stock cooler but I wanna go with the aftermarket one

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 8:16 PM

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I have a nh-d15

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very nice, but expensive

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:16 PM

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I've only used AIOs over the last couple years

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Because A E S T H E T I C S

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:17 PM

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lol

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 8:17 PM

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📎 20191210_141659.jpg

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this is what my motherboard looks like

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:17 PM

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Yeah

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 8:17 PM

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I think I just have to clasp it inbetween there

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:17 PM

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doc hope you're ok now?

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:17 PM

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No.

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@sudden turret ya I'm fine

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Just a little ganja

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:18 PM

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good good.

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:18 PM

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No booze, no oxys

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 8:18 PM

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I like the look of a prism more than an AIO, but maybe that's just me

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:18 PM

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Just weed

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 8:18 PM

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much prettier lights

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 8:18 PM

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Yeah, the 212 clips on for the AM4 socket

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:18 PM

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And if I was in a legal state I could easily get a med card

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Because arthritis and stenosis and nerve issues

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And PTSD

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 8:19 PM

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But, personal experience, here, don't push the processor. PRIME95 over thermaled and shut my machine down

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 8:19 PM

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@muted patio danke

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 8:19 PM

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After that I went AIO and ditched the 212

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:19 PM

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You see my last PC @sudden turret

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Ryzen 2700X, MSI B450M Mortar Titanium, 16GB Corsai DDR4 3000, Sapphire Vega 64...

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:20 PM

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the one you just posted?

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:20 PM

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Ya

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Sold it in May after detoxing

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:20 PM

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ah

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:21 PM

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Had to. Needed the money

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:21 PM

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you can always rebuild.

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:21 PM

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But now that I'm getting money in the divorce

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:21 PM

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oh ya you're that guy

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:21 PM

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I'm going to build a 3700X 2080 Ti system!

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:21 PM

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sorry so many convos past few days

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lol

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:22 PM

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No worries

#

I'm usually that guy anyway

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 8:22 PM

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if I need money I usually work extra shifts... or take out a personal loan I hate selling stuff

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:22 PM

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that's going to be a sweet build

#

you going to do all white?

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er white themed

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:22 PM

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@eager chasm my job wasn't allowing OT

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And I was in no shape to be working extra shifts anyway

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Fresh off drugs and booze

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:23 PM

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yeah that stuff will do ya in.

jovial night Dec 10, 2019, 8:23 PM

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Im working on a ryzen 5 3600x 2060 build for wifey Right now

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:23 PM

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@jovial night nice

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:23 PM

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I'm on strong meds myself, but I don't abuse them

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:23 PM

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I'm getting a R5 1400 system from my ex wife

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@sudden turret I was on and off ozys/Percocet for years

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Since. 2010

jovial night Dec 10, 2019, 8:24 PM

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She needs the upgrade bad, she has a ryzen 7 1700 and a 1060 3gb

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:24 PM

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Hah

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:25 PM

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doc, I've been on them for years cause of chronic back issues, now I got switched to same crap called levorphanol titrate

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some*

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:25 PM

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@sudden turret ya same issue for me. Back problems

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From a military injury

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 8:25 PM

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am I supposed to put the motherboard into my case after I put the heatsink/cooler on?

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:25 PM

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Yes

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 8:25 PM

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gotcha

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:25 PM

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you can yeah, it makes it easier

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cpu/cooler ram and m.2 if you got it

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:26 PM

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I fell out of a HMMWV in 2008 and my back has been FUBAR ever since

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Do they all attach to the cases the same way?

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Attach?

#

I mean. You line the board up with the standoffs

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 8:26 PM

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the motherboard

#

yeah yeah

#

that's what I assumed I just wanted to confirm

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:26 PM

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correct

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 8:27 PM

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Some motherboards have a different standoff position though

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so check before you start screwing it in

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 8:27 PM

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should I put the standoffs in first?

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:28 PM

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... yesss...

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 8:28 PM

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You have to, they screw into the case, then the motherboard screws into those

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 8:28 PM

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okay okay

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 8:28 PM

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if you didnt your MB would likely die

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:28 PM

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^^^

#

@sudden turret check #build-pics

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I posted my second to last PC

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 8:30 PM

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nice

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:30 PM

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man I need sleeved cables 😦

indigo crow Dec 10, 2019, 8:31 PM

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@sudden turret can you check pms

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:31 PM

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ask that stuff here homie

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:31 PM

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Those were cablemod cables too

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:31 PM

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there are many helpful people here 🙂

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:31 PM

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Omg

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$100 beautifully wasted dollars

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Lmao

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 8:31 PM

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I'm perfectly fine using my all black cables that came with my PSU, cause at least they aint ketchup and mustard

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:32 PM

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The white cables in my 2700X? Just some cheap cable extensions and they did the same thing

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Looked sexy

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I think I paid $35 total for the extensions

indigo crow Dec 10, 2019, 8:33 PM

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1400 not a clue what to buy gaming only

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Anyone help out?

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:33 PM

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what are you into

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game wise

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1,400 is a devent budget

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:33 PM

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$1400 budget?

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:33 PM

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like, really decent

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:33 PM

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Good budget

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Ya

indigo crow Dec 10, 2019, 8:33 PM

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Yeah 1400

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:33 PM

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and before everyone says 'go amd its cheaper' lets figure out what he likes 😄

indigo crow Dec 10, 2019, 8:33 PM

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Gaming based

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 8:33 PM

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JUST gaming? or gaming and streaming?

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 8:33 PM

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I'm allotting myself $3500 total for my next build

indigo crow Dec 10, 2019, 8:34 PM

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Gaming

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:34 PM

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mmo? FPS?

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triple A titles?

indigo crow Dec 10, 2019, 8:34 PM

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All round games

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:34 PM

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indie?

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ok

indigo crow Dec 10, 2019, 8:34 PM

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At 1440p/4K

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But obv if playing Comp games then won’t be 😂

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:34 PM

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is 1,400 just the pc budget, or it that for everything

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monitor/key/mouse

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 8:35 PM

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-_-

indigo crow Dec 10, 2019, 8:35 PM

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Just of budget

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 8:35 PM

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we've been helping you in two other channels lol

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and you just left

indigo crow Dec 10, 2019, 8:35 PM

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Ik Ik

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:35 PM

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I didn't know that.. lol

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well then

indigo crow Dec 10, 2019, 8:35 PM

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Stressing @muted patio

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:35 PM

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take a deep breathe, and relax.

indigo crow Dec 10, 2019, 8:35 PM

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Not sure what to get for total budget etc

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 8:35 PM

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I'm not stressed lol

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 8:35 PM

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kind of games matter cause some games do THIS to your CPU

📎 unknown.png

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the marvels of actual multithreaded games

quartz coral Dec 10, 2019, 8:36 PM

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any recommended motherboards?

indigo crow Dec 10, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Okay @muted patio what would you build with 1400

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 8:37 PM

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god i am so scared about putting paste on my cpu but here it goes...

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 8:37 PM

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just a small pea sized drop

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in the center

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 8:37 PM

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You already had a great build! 3700X/X570 motherboard, 5700XT, RAM, SSD case and cooling of your choice

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 8:37 PM

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don't spread

indigo crow Dec 10, 2019, 8:37 PM

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So you wouldn’t bother with a 2070 super

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Cos I’m going for all out gaming

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 8:38 PM

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For what you said, 1440P gaming

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5700XT is king

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and good for VR also

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:38 PM

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The Bekora has spoken.

lime forge Dec 10, 2019, 8:38 PM

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ooh we talking about VR?

indigo crow Dec 10, 2019, 8:38 PM

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any other opinions on that or is that the general idea

lime forge Dec 10, 2019, 8:38 PM

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i am awake

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 8:39 PM

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i'd hate to see how this game reacts to a i7 9700k lol

strange mango Dec 10, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Plan on starting my first build in the near term. Having a hard time choosing between the 2070 super and the 5700 XT, are there meaningful advantages of choosing one above the other?

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Price

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that's about it

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 8:43 PM

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If it's at the same price 2070S is slightly better

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But 5700xt is usually 100$ or so cheaper

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 8:44 PM

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5700XT is $100 less, same performance, and I'm an RTX guy.

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 8:44 PM

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I'm a rtx 2070 guy and I don't oppose 5700xt

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 8:45 PM

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5700XT be like
https://tenor.com/view/willj-oprah-oprahh-oprahwinfrey-winfrey-gif-5778731

Tenor

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 8:46 PM

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Yeet

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 8:46 PM

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everyone gets one lol

strange mango Dec 10, 2019, 8:46 PM

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That's what I've read, I gotta guy in another channel who's helping me out, and he's steering me towards the 2070 when I proposed a build I found on Paul's Hardware.

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 8:46 PM

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2070 if you absolutely have to have ray tracing

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BUt for me, $100 I could spend elsewhere is worth 8% performance or less

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I mean, you're looking at 10 fps or so average

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 8:47 PM

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games that I own that have ray tracing: 0
WTFs I give: Also 0

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 8:47 PM

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And I got 2070 before 5700xt launched
Thats my excuse

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 8:47 PM

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Same

strange mango Dec 10, 2019, 8:47 PM

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I mean I've got a GTX 1060 right now, so it's not like I've ever experienced it before.

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 8:47 PM

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The only game I have that has ray tracing is that free quake 2 rtx

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Its really neat and beautiful but

polar holly Dec 10, 2019, 8:48 PM

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i bought rtx 2070 for adobe stuff

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 8:48 PM

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Its not implement enough to be even considered as a factor in buying cards

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 8:48 PM

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Who needs RTX when you have UNLIMITED GOD RAYS

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lol

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📎 2019-04-12_4678633.JPG

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 8:49 PM

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Rtx be like

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No

strange mango Dec 10, 2019, 8:49 PM

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So what maybe another 2 years before ray tracing truly becomes a thing?

polar holly Dec 10, 2019, 8:49 PM

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Yeah outside of creator stuff rtx is kinda usless now

strange mango Dec 10, 2019, 8:49 PM

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Or commonplace anyways.

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 8:49 PM

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not even

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:50 PM

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haha that reminds me of ARK with sun shafts enabled

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 8:50 PM

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it's fancy, but nowhere near ready prime time

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 8:50 PM

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that picture

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sunshafts and bloom

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to over powered

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 8:51 PM

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yea sundown in key places in BDO with remaster on is BLINDING

strange mango Dec 10, 2019, 8:51 PM

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I mean from what I've read, even the most recent cards can choke on ray tracing sometimes.

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 8:51 PM

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okay, heatsink on

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that was freakin stressful

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 8:51 PM

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well it does massively drop performance to turn RTX on

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you wont be gaming at high FPS with it

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as a FPS junky i would not like it

strange mango Dec 10, 2019, 8:53 PM

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I mean I prefer the fps. Even debating whether to go for 1440p. Got a 1080p 144 GHz monitor right now.

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 8:53 PM

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Isn't it only possible to get like 40fps on 4k ray tracing even with 2080ti?

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 8:53 PM

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Yes

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 8:53 PM

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Then that's what I mean

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 8:54 PM

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the 2060 I have is a joke for ray tracing even at 1080p

strange mango Dec 10, 2019, 8:54 PM

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I wish HDR was a thing on PC, that makes more of a difference than 4k.

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 8:54 PM

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#NoRayTracingGamesGang

strange mango Dec 10, 2019, 8:56 PM

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Is there a particular brand of 5700 XT that would be a go to?

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 8:56 PM

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Powercolor something....stand by

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Powercolor Red Devil

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 8:57 PM

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can i put the fan part on after i put it in the case to make sure its blowing the right way?

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 8:57 PM

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Yes

strange mango Dec 10, 2019, 8:58 PM

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This bad boy right here?

📎 SmartSelect_20191210-155802_Amazon_Shopping.jpg

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 8:59 PM

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Indeed

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 9:00 PM

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YES

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I almost bought that card

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I wish I did

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kids needed xmas tho :\

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:00 PM

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Dont celebrate christmas

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Become atheist

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Boom ez money

sudden turret Dec 10, 2019, 9:01 PM

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not telling my kids that.

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lol

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:01 PM

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27, 32 or 34" monitor?

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 9:01 PM

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hey Atheists have Festivas

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lol

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Not me ryoku :p

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Dox depends on your budget

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 9:04 PM

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What resoluition doc?

strange mango Dec 10, 2019, 9:05 PM

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What's the difference between the Red Devil and Red Dragon?

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:06 PM

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@stoic island I don't have a budget really

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Just want to keep it around $3500

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For everything

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(including monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc)

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And that's a soft 3500

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:06 PM

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Kinda like that other guy

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:06 PM

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What other guy?

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Forgot, was helping someone last night with a soft 3000 budget

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Red Devil has higher clocks

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Than the Dragon

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:07 PM

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My current cart on the micro center site is just over 3500 including taxes

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Make a pcpartpicker list

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Though that doesn't include a headset but does include a $750 monitor

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I have a few hold plz

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:07 PM

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We'll prob critique the hell outta it

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But you really should go make a pcpartpicker list so you know which sellers are the cheapest for what

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Newegg is my best choice for everything but thats my experience

strange mango Dec 10, 2019, 9:08 PM

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I've got one going. Gotta swap out the 2070.

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:08 PM

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Not sponsored btw

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Whys that?

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Jmorris that card is only half a generation behind

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(Super wasn't impactful at all so calling that half a generation

strange mango Dec 10, 2019, 9:10 PM

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No no, I meant swap it out from my pcpartpicker list.

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Ohhh

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I keep assuming peeps had pcs already done

strange mango Dec 10, 2019, 9:11 PM

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I gotta 2070 super in the list right now. Swap in the 5700 XT to save a few and put towards something else.

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:11 PM

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Yea do that

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:11 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4Bm6Dx

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@Mr1111#1350

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:11 PM

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Also thought you mean 2070 as normal 2070 not 2070s

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One sec lemme look

strange mango Dec 10, 2019, 9:12 PM

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I've got a pre-built. Building my first computer will be a round about way of upgrading my 14 year old daughters PC by passing the pre-built down.

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Critique away

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 9:12 PM

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technically you can go X470 and save a pretty penny

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:12 PM

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That's a rough list btw made up real quick

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@eager chasm but PCIe gen4

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Thats a Expensive mobo there damn

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 9:13 PM

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PCIe Gen4 is not being utilized to it's fullest anyway

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:13 PM

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Oh I meant to switch that to the Taichi

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@eager chasm but it will be

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In the future

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Ao

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So

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The Taichi is 300

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:13 PM

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Ima suggest corsair mp510 instead as an ssd, and put in like a 2tb hdd on top for extra storage

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:13 PM

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I actually was also considering the Seagate 52

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520*

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:14 PM

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Because the mp510 is like 60 bucks cheaper than samsung, similar specs

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:14 PM

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One of my weed plugs just added me on Facebook...

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I hate living in an illegal state

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I just want a medical card dangit

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But yeah

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I'll probably end up going on a shopping spree at micro center for everything

neat swift Dec 10, 2019, 9:15 PM

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I think you could benefit from getting a cheaper model and buying more storage than just one 1tb nvme

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 9:15 PM

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if you REALLY wanna get on the PCIe Gen 4 bandwagon, be my guest, but only super high end NVMe drives will take advantage of it for quite a few years

neat swift Dec 10, 2019, 9:15 PM

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cheaper monitor is what i meant

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:15 PM

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Oh

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Ya

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:15 PM

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That's what im suggesting dos

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:15 PM

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I'm not sold on the monitor

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I mean I was fine for a while with a 27" 1440p144hz

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Do I really need an ultrawide?

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:15 PM

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Not really

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Ya

neat swift Dec 10, 2019, 9:16 PM

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I have a 144hz 1080p monitor and i get over 120+ on most games with my ryzen 5 2600 + msi rtx 2070 super

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Though I've also thought about getting a pair of 27"

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Because dual monitor is bae

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Still gonna suggest a Corsair mp510 1tb with like a beefy hdd, gtg, I'll be back

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:16 PM

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I don't want a HDD

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I'm thinking maybe a 2TB SATA M.2

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Like a WD Blue

neat swift Dec 10, 2019, 9:16 PM

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are you planning anything specific? like streaming? just gaming? gaming and video editing?

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Gaming, photo editing, streaming while high

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This is absolutely overkill for my intended uses

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But it's a IDGAF PC. Just taking some of the money from my divorce settlement and splurging

neat swift Dec 10, 2019, 9:17 PM

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lol. whats up my guy. um. Id say that the 2080 ti could be super overkill and you could save a chunck going to a 2080 super

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:17 PM

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Nah

neat swift Dec 10, 2019, 9:17 PM

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ah. NVM. Welcome to the pv master race

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:17 PM

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I'm sticking with Ti

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Lol

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My last PC was a 2700X with Vega 64

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Currently using a mediocre gaming laptop

neat swift Dec 10, 2019, 9:18 PM

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If you want a prebuild, i think nzxt has like 100 bucks or something off right now i believe? i may be wrong

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:18 PM

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Noooo

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No no no no no no no no no no no no no no

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NO!

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... I'm not wanting a prebuilt

neat swift Dec 10, 2019, 9:19 PM

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lol. You'd be surprised. I built my pc myself with the help of my brother, but i have a couple of friends who got good pcs from nzxt.

strange mango Dec 10, 2019, 9:19 PM

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Does core clock and boost clock matter?

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:20 PM

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@neat swift I'm building myself

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Period

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This whole thing is an exercise in excess

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Lol

neat swift Dec 10, 2019, 9:21 PM

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understood. Have you calcualted streaming gear like webcam, mic, camera light, streamdeck?

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:21 PM

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Not yet

neat swift Dec 10, 2019, 9:21 PM

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calculated

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:21 PM

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Any time I've streamed before was just hardware streaming

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And always while high

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Always

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... not that it's going to be much different if I do it again

neat swift Dec 10, 2019, 9:22 PM

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Are you going to be doing a dual pc setup then?

strange mango Dec 10, 2019, 9:22 PM

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I'm seeing 1650 and 1905 for the red dragon.

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:22 PM

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Nah

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Not yet

#

I just used OBS

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On the PC I was using

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And. Streamed

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:23 PM

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Ima suggest corsair mp510 2tb then

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:23 PM

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K

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:23 PM

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Its a fairly cheap 2tb nvme, pretty good performance

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:24 PM

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I mean if I went 2080 Super I'd have more tattoo money. But. At the same time, at that price point is it really that big of a deal to save like $300?

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 9:24 PM

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cause I'm a cheap ass with already 3 TB of stuff on my PC I went with mid capacity HDDs at 3&4 TB

neat swift Dec 10, 2019, 9:24 PM

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I think sabrent just came out with some new cheap high tb nvme

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:24 PM

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Ohh can you link me dos

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Havnt seen it if they did

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Sabrent has good cheap nvme

neat swift Dec 10, 2019, 9:25 PM

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I have a corsair 240gb for boot, 1 tb 2.5 inch samsung sata, and im getting another 1tb nvme for chirstmas. Thank god for no cables on nvme.

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:25 PM

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Lol

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 9:25 PM

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I'd throw mushkin into the cheap decent NVMe hat too

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:26 PM

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I just got a 1tb mp510 so yea

neat swift Dec 10, 2019, 9:26 PM

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@stoic island https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Rocket-Internal-Performance-SB-ROCKET-1TB/dp/B07LGF54XR/ref=sxin_2_ac_d_pm?ac_md=3-1-QmV0d2VlbiAkMTAwIGFuZCAkMTUw-ac_d_pm&keywords=sabrent+nvme&pd_rd_i=B07LGF54XR&pd_rd_r=e1dd2e57-a8f4-4112-830e-9614ebf23040&pd_rd_w=WMPyf&pd_rd_wg=XH9Hs&pf_rd_p=709d2064-e546-4799-9e66-b352ea89951f&pf_rd_r=VRND9E7YBTCN5F6JRW1B&psc=1&qid=1576013146

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Things should be going speeedy when I install it

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Ok lemme check

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 9:26 PM

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1TB for that? NICE

neat swift Dec 10, 2019, 9:26 PM

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2tb price is average but the 1tb price is pretty good

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Thats old one

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Also mp510 is at 125$ sooo

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 9:26 PM

#

speeds?

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:27 PM

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And mp510 is rated for 3gb read and write, sabrent 3gb read 1.7gb write

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Something like that

#

Corsair also aparently has a really good endurande warrenty on the mp510

lone cosmos Dec 10, 2019, 9:29 PM

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Ssd = op

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 9:32 PM

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just realized all my blizzard titles are on my NVMe and I don't want them to be... WELP this is gonna be a pain to move them

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 9:42 PM

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arrrgh I can't get this clap down

#

i pushed a little hard and still won't go in

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 9:44 PM

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using the clips?

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Pic of the clamp bracket?

#

Might not have the center set up properly

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 9:44 PM

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hang on

#

📎 20191210_154534.jpg

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📎 20191210_141659.jpg

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📎 20191210_154606.jpg

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 9:46 PM

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you are putting it on wrong

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 9:47 PM

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Aw wut seriously

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 9:47 PM

#

the cooler is supposed to be mounted 90 degrees from how you have it

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:47 PM

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lmaoo

#

rip

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 9:47 PM

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with the clips on the sides

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:47 PM

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i’ll be honest i wouldn’t have known

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:48 PM

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I have this random pic of the innerds of my PC from a while back

📎 20191125_105927.jpg

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Wait what do u mean?

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 9:48 PM

#

NPCMechanicFacepalm

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:49 PM

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turn it

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 9:49 PM

#

the little grooves only go 1 way

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:49 PM

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OH WAIT

#

Yea thats going wrong way

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:49 PM

#

like

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 9:49 PM

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yes, and you have it on wrong XD

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:49 PM

#

90° clockwise

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if you’re looking down on the board

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:49 PM

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The fans should be facing rear IO and rear fan

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:49 PM

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i think

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:50 PM

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So CPU heat gets blown right out the case through the back

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Like if you look at my pic, you see GPU, and see how CPU fans are oriented

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Guys

#

that won't work with the bracket they have for the 212

#

Heatpipes are in the way

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:51 PM

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Oh thats a 212

#

Thought it was like noctua

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 9:51 PM

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To mount it the other way you need the X bracket

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 9:51 PM

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Is this not how its deposed to go?

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 9:51 PM

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But the standoffs are different

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:51 PM

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Idk how 212 goes

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 9:51 PM

#

📎 20191210_155059.jpg 📎 20191210_155051.jpg

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:51 PM

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D15 ftw

jovial night Dec 10, 2019, 9:52 PM

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White GPU recommendations

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Well, the 212 can go 2 different ways

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depending on the bracket used

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 9:52 PM

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looks like you need to use the screws instead of the retention clips

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:52 PM

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man i’m so glad i joined this group.. otherwise i’d be running an i5-9600kf and 1660ti rather than a r5 3600 and 5700xt

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 9:52 PM

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really shouldn't mount it in that orientation

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Well, that's a little complicated, some 212 kits have the right sized standoffs for the AM4 socket

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:52 PM

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I don't like t-force ram

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 9:52 PM

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and some don't

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 9:53 PM

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so I should really turn it?

stoic island Dec 10, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Bought 16gb of "3200mhz" ram, can only run like 2133mhz to be stable in rust

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 9:53 PM

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then I hafta figure out how its supposed to fasten on

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 9:53 PM

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SOuthpaw, need to see ALL the brackets and parts it came with

eager chasm Dec 10, 2019, 9:53 PM

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@old charm looks like you might have to use the bracket that uses screws on that board

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Careful,

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that requires a different standoff size

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not all the 212 kits have them

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Some you had to order extra

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 9:54 PM

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hang on ill take a pic of all the pieces

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:54 PM

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@stoic island that’s why i took one look at t-force ram and decided that’s not what i’m getting

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i’m going with corsair vengeance

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3600

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Good choice

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:55 PM

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it’s a lil pricier but for rgb 3600 it’s definitely one of the best options

strange mango Dec 10, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Here's what I got so far.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tYXjHB

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:56 PM

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and i’m okay with paying an extra 20-30 bucks instead of having to buy again bc it doesn’t work

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 9:56 PM

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📎 20191210_155616.jpg 📎 20191210_155621.jpg

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:57 PM

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@strange mango go with a better power supply

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 9:57 PM

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I don't recognize those parts, that's a different kit

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 9:57 PM

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like a silver or gold rated one

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 9:58 PM

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is that actually removable if I do end up having to tkae it off?

jovial night Dec 10, 2019, 9:59 PM

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@strange mango be careful with the b450 board gunna need to update bios before itll worm

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Work

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Honestly that 212 kit looks like it's missing what it needs to be mounted the other way

neat swift Dec 10, 2019, 10:00 PM

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@stoic island I had corsair vengence 16gb 3200mhz and worked great first time no issue. I upgrade to the corsair vengence rgb pro and I had to get like two replacements becasue I kept getting blue screened due to memory error.

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 10:00 PM

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I would check the Installation manual in the AM4+ section for it and see what it says

strange mango Dec 10, 2019, 10:02 PM

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@little osprey what power supply would you recommend?

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@jovial night what board would you recommend?

jovial night Dec 10, 2019, 10:02 PM

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@neat swift i had the same problem when i upgraded my trident Z to Corsair dominator 3200mhz 32gbs, took me a while but for some reason my bios settings were off so i flashed bios and updated everything and we are A ok

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 10:02 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2HbwrH/corsair-rmx-2018-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020178-na

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this is the psu i’m using

jovial night Dec 10, 2019, 10:02 PM

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@strange mango any x570 will work out the box

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 10:02 PM

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the problem is it looks like all the other ones are mounted into stnadoffs that I don't have

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 10:02 PM

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i think i may switch to x570 from b450

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 10:03 PM

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there's only that bracket wit the two "hooks" on my motherboard which is why I thought it was obviously that orientation/bracket

neat swift Dec 10, 2019, 10:03 PM

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@jovial night for me it was just the ram. I tested both packs with just 8gb in the pc and in both of the first two sets there was a dud

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 10:03 PM

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It is. Some kits had an X bracket you could also use

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But that kit doesnt' look like it has it

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 10:04 PM

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This?

📎 20191210_160404.jpg

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 10:04 PM

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No, that goes on the back of the board

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It's literally an X

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📎 CMhyper212evo_clip.png

strange mango Dec 10, 2019, 10:05 PM

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@little osprey thank you. Only about $10 more than what I had spec'd.

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 10:05 PM

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exactly, the $10 for the jump from bronze to gold is far worth it

jovial night Dec 10, 2019, 10:05 PM

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This was my first upgrade to my first build so i literally was freaking out cause im still new to building and had just spent 240ish on the dominator kit and thought there was a dud it was stressful @neat swift

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 10:06 PM

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As long as the top of your case isn't closed, IE has mesh, blowing out the top is fine

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What case is it @old charm

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 10:06 PM

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240 on ram holy

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how much

neat swift Dec 10, 2019, 10:06 PM

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lol

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 10:06 PM

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32gb??

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 10:06 PM

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it does I rthink

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NZHT510

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i just looked

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there's like a mesh lining/screen on top

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 10:07 PM

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Oh yeah

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there's a fan up there too

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You'll be fine. 🙂

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 10:07 PM

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okay thank god

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i was NOT looking forward to having to move that

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 10:07 PM

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LOL!

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 10:07 PM

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now i just have to figure out how to get it on

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 10:07 PM

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That bracket is a PITA to install though

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 10:07 PM

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it's werid cuz the bracket i have fels so right

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it just wont exactly clip o

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on

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and i don't wanna push it hard

jovial night Dec 10, 2019, 10:08 PM

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@little osprey 4x8gb corsair dominator 3200

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 10:08 PM

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Wait, hang on

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 10:08 PM

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okay that’s what i thought

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at first i was thinking 16gb

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and was like tf

jovial night Dec 10, 2019, 10:08 PM

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Id die

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 10:08 PM

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@old charm hang on, I don't think that's the right bracket either

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 10:09 PM

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butts

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 10:09 PM

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Lemme check something

jovial night Dec 10, 2019, 10:09 PM

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My set up is finished though. May or may not upgrade my 2060 in the future but as of now my frames are perfect at 1080 and honestly i dont use rat tracing

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Ray*

thorn prism Dec 10, 2019, 10:09 PM

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Should I repost the pain that is the chaotic mess of wires that lets me say the person at cyberpower needs to be fired for their cable management?

little osprey Dec 10, 2019, 10:10 PM

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Ya

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 10:10 PM

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Do you have one of these?

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📎 images_TechSupportArticlePix_9724Image3.png

old charm Dec 10, 2019, 10:10 PM

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i don't think so

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 10:10 PM

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Yeah hmmmm

thorn prism Dec 10, 2019, 10:10 PM

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Hmm?

muted patio Dec 10, 2019, 10:10 PM

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Which 212 is it exactly?