#building-and-recc-chat

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silver meteor
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What about the test of the PC

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NZXT stock fans

deep skiff
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its fine

silver meteor
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Oh bet

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Thanks

deep skiff
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i have a 2600x with the stock cooler and an h500 too, its perfectly good temps

silver meteor
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Oh okay

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Thank you

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I’m really upset about my monitor because it’s really old and I can see the pixels and some are dying and it’s starting to have ghosting

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But my dad didn’t let me buy one even though it fit my budget

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Idky

rugged copper
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office depot and office max are having a sale on 1080p 144hz monitors for 125, if that helps

silver meteor
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Oh fr

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Thank you

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I’ll check

rugged copper
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well, now it has been bumped up a little to 140, but still a good deal

silver meteor
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Wow

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It’s good

rugged copper
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I just bought the AOC, but MSI will definitely be a better purchase for the same price

silver meteor
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Ah ok

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Thank you, I believe I’ll be purchasing that if all goes well

cursive wharf
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@silver meteor
-3700x and 3800x are basically the same in perf due to PB2
-That mobo is overkill for your needs
-samsung is overpriced
-case doesnt have good airflow

storm yacht
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any good 1440p monitors for sale

silver meteor
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@cursive wharf I’m Elmo, I got that advice already but I got really good deals on everything

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Remember

icy plume
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what fps can a 2060S and 2070 run 1440p at, respectively?

ripe osprey
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all the fps's

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300 fps on csgo

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60-190 fps on r6

icy plume
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graphically intense games

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ah

ripe osprey
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60fps on mhw

icy plume
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sounds about right

ripe osprey
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i cant tell youjj

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because

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every game is different

little osprey
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hi

ripe osprey
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look up bench mark comparisons

icy plume
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aight

low ocean
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Hi

rugged copper
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Hello there

low ocean
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I’m sad

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I don’t have a pc

rugged copper
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Do you have a console?

low ocean
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Nintendo switch

old charm
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my dad is saying i should install the fan that came with my cpu

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but i bought a coolermaster and we don't know which one to put in

rugged copper
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What is the CPU/stock cooler?

old charm
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it came with the 5 3600

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amd

rugged copper
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What specific type of coolermaster?

old charm
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Cooler Master Hyper 212 LED w/ 4 Continuous Direct Contact Heatpipes, 120mm PWM Fan, Quiet Spin Technology , Red LEDs, Intel LGA1151, AMD AM4/Ryzen

rugged copper
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I would think the aftermarket cooler, but if you have enough thermal compound you could do a benchmark test with each fan to see which one holds up better

teal bison
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So my cousin wants a PC that she can use to edit photos/draw with for around $300. Anything that needs to be changed or is it all just bad? Im pretty new to making PCs so I'm not sure on the specifications for different activities. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4xQWtp

little osprey
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Yo one of my case fans is not working and i dont know why

teal bison
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also can I use a psu that comes with a case or should I change it out?

cursive wharf
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used market is your friend for such a budget. PSU I worry about as skipping out on a good PSU can be dangerous.

stable jetty
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Guys can someone help me?

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Hey guys I'm still new too the whole PC thing and just wanna upgrade my pc since I've just got a Dell desktop and kinda stuck a GTX 1050 in there with a 250 watt PSU I was wanting to upgrade it with a new case and motherboard, and just wondering should I go for AMD CPU or Intel

magic hinge
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Hey can I install windows 10 onto a 64gb ssd?

queen willow
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Yes

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I do believe you can

narrow rose
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should be fine windows is supposed to only be 10gb but my own windows folder is using 23gb and my user folder is another 15gb so 64gb will get tight but its the smallest size I would say is acceptable

old charm
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i need help with a specific problem

narrow rose
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tell us the problem

old charm
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i think i may have asked this earlir but my cpu came with a cooler but i bought a different one and we don't know which one to install

narrow rose
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what did you buy?

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and what cpu?

old charm
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i bought the ryzen 5 3600

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and it came with a wraithmaster i think it was cooler

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but i bought a hyper212 cooler

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and we dunno which one to use

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i have a tomohawkb450 motherboard too

eager chasm
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Wraith master? not a wraith spire LED edition?

old charm
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*wraith stealth cooler

eager chasm
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Oh the stealth, riiight, it's not an X skew

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it's useable, but if you have a better cooler with an AM4 bracket go ahead and use that

old charm
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well I have this one but supposedly it doesn't fit with my motherboard so idk

narrow rose
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it has an AM4 bracket

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I can see it in the pictures

old charm
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the hyper cooler or the motherboard?

narrow rose
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hypercooler

old charm
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okay it does say that

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I see it

narrow rose
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I'm not really sure how much better the 212 hypercooler will be than the wraithcooler but probably slightly better

old charm
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my dad says the wraithercooler is better because its "direct" contact but this other one purports that too

narrow rose
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all coolers have direct contact

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and use paste

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about the size of a grain of rice

old charm
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okay i gotta figure out which one I wanna put in

eager chasm
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that's kinda how coolers work, they are all direct contact with paste for heat transfer

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XD

old charm
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yeah but we don't know which one is "better"

eager chasm
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I'm more of a fan of the Wraith Spire (copper core) and the Wraith Prism

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your much larger cooler with much larger surface area, that's the better cooler

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it just needs a good fan on it if it doesn't have one attached already

old charm
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so just the bigger sized one is the better option most of the time?

eager chasm
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key words I said, "surface area"

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most of the time more surface area mean better cooling

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and larger coolers with fin stacks have that

old charm
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yeah every resource I'm reading says the aftermarket coolers (a lot mention the hyper212) are better than the stock ones that come with the cpu's

eager chasm
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that's true most of the time

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now something like a Wraith Prism I'd use over an after market cooler

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the Prism is possibly the beefiest stock cooler around, with heat pipes and a fin stack, with the added advantage of being down-fire meaning it can blow air over the ram and VRMs

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that and it's got addressable RGB making it the coolest looking stock cooler too

old charm
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my dad was swearing that the stock cooler was the one we should use

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and tbh in that moment i didn't understand which either but I did some research and I think I am going with the aftermarket I bought

eager chasm
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if it was a Prism I'd agree, spire or stealth better to just go after market

old charm
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yeah i got the 212hyper or something like that

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and my understanding isn't technically deep or anything but from what I understand the aftermarket ones tend to run cooler than the stock ones and I'll take that possible extension onf the life of my pc

eager chasm
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Spire is useable but for what it ships with it doesn't offer much overclocking room

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... WFT it doens't show up as a video

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that's minorly annoying

lime forge
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when the video is too large it wont embed

eager chasm
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ah

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thought it was pretty small o.o

lime forge
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its 30mb

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thats pretty large (according to discord)

eager chasm
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lol

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i guess

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but yea surface area is the biggest factor if a cooler is good at cooling (usually)

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and stacking thin metal fins together maximizes surface area

vague crystal
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Stock cooler or hyper 212 eveo, that i dont know where the mounting for it is

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(Amd r5 2600)

eager chasm
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well if you don't know where the mounting bracket is then you can't use it

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but if you do find it use it

vague crystal
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Well yeah

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Mk

eager chasm
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all the AMD stock coolers are passable and work well for stock settings

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but if you have the opportunity the stealth or spire could be replaced for better coolers

quartz terrace
eager chasm
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why does the CPU power reach across the front?

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there should be a place in the back to route it

quartz terrace
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I'm sorry you might need to dumb it down for me it's my 3rd build

eager chasm
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see those holes that lead to the back of the case, that's where wires go

quartz terrace
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Ah I really don't know why

eager chasm
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not the best, but it's passable

quartz terrace
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Yeah better than I could do on my own

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I got alot of help with the liquid cooling

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I've only made fan cooled

eager chasm
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there is a hole right next to your power supply, unplug every power and push them though that hole

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then pull them back through near where they need to plug in

quartz terrace
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Oh ok will do that in the morning

eager chasm
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normally I have mine Ziptied down, but I needed to cut the ties to take out a fan today and I'm swapping the case in a week so no need to re-tie them lol

quartz terrace
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I'm still new to this

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So I know some stuff but not all stuff

eager chasm
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this is technically my 3rd build

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next weekend will be my 4th and 5th builds

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as case swapping is pretty much rebuilding the entire thing XD

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and I'm putting stuff back into the old case for a new build too

quartz terrace
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But it's made with my dads old pcs

median sail
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😭

quartz terrace
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And his colleagues old ones

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With some new parts

eager chasm
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still good cable presentation can go a long way

quartz terrace
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Yeah but it's not for show so I dont care now

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Just for now

eager chasm
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it also makes things easier to upgrade later

quartz terrace
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Untill I get a new case I'm good for now

eager chasm
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welp I'm off to work

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night

quartz terrace
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I would love to ge one of those monitors with a displays on the glass

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And some rgbs

dry tinsel
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you can just mount with the AMD clip

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oh i was scrolled up

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hueheuheue

shut spoke
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is ryzen 5 1500x and a gtx 1060 good

quartz terrace
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Are you talking to me?

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@dry tinsel

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Just want to know so I dont confuse myself

dry tinsel
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yeah, were you talking about mounting the hyper 212 on an AM4 socket?

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i was just saying the old AMD mounting system still exists on AM4 boards

eager chasm
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@shut spoke yes, I used a 1060 6GB and a Ryzen 7 1700 and they worked perfectly together

quartz terrace
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Ok again I need it to be simplified

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@dry tinsel

eager chasm
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Good for 1080p 60 in a lot of stuff

dry tinsel
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the little clip that comes with the hyper 212

quartz terrace
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Umm wat?

eager chasm
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The retention clip

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The system the prism uses

quartz terrace
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I'm stupid

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I dont really understand right now

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Because I'm tired

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I'm sorry

dry tinsel
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it's okay but maybe there's a better time to talk about this

eager chasm
quartz terrace
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If I'm being annoying

eager chasm
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The cables a bit in the way, old photo

quartz terrace
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And I love both of your ppf

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Just a btw

dry tinsel
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why thank you

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Hunny you're totally okay you just might want to ask these questions when not tired

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because mounting coolers is serious business

quartz terrace
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Well I'm not tired but I'm just not being big brain

dry tinsel
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ah

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i'm never big brain

quartz terrace
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Just that kinda day

dry tinsel
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i know the feeling

eager chasm
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Look up AM4 retention clip on youtube

quartz terrace
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Ok

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Will do

eager chasm
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Video is probably the best way to understand

grave lantern
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d

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d

dry tinsel
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i'm gonna specially purchase a hyper T2 so i don't have to deal with the horrible screwing down of a wraith cooler

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😂

eager chasm
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Ahahaha

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But the prism is a Wraith too

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;)

dry tinsel
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hyper T2 is better anyway

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yes, but some of the wraiths do not work with retention clips

eager chasm
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I know, I also have a spire

dry tinsel
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the spire is absolutely frustrating to install

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as is the stealth

quartz terrace
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Well I just learned that it was a pre built that my dad took apart and we rebuilt

eager chasm
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The spire is easy to install imo

quartz terrace
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It was a custom but he took it apart

dry tinsel
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you might have a better motherboard mounting thing

quartz terrace
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One of his employees made it

dry tinsel
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oh gob

quartz terrace
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I can send a image of what it was running

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Here

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It ran that

dry tinsel
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lol

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how is that necessary

quartz terrace
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It was for a cyber security company

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And idk

dry tinsel
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good hell what am i looking at

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maybe they needed to watch multiple things at once

quartz terrace
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Yeah I think

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But its insane

dry tinsel
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or maybe they wanted to look 1337 as hell to people walking in the office

quartz terrace
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I'm planning on buying a new case so I can fix it up

eager chasm
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I would kill to have that at my security job, we get a shitty i5 in a pillbox itx build with a laptop cooler to watch all our cameras on only 2 screens... Shoot me

quartz terrace
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Omg lol

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Yeah I'm suprised when I saw that image

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I need to count how many monitors that is

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Ok its eight

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Here I can send the video card and mother board

eager chasm
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No one here understands watching 10 high-res camera feeds will be the death of the i5 build they gave us

quartz terrace
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Sad

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Well some case ideas would be great

eager chasm
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I'm bad to ask about cases, I pick the most bargain bin cases that can still handle the higher end of stuff

quartz terrace
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He helped me build it during Thanksgiving since I got to visit him holidays I'm going to test it out with my capture card this Christmas

eager chasm
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For making a $2500 build I sure skimp on the case xD

dry tinsel
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i got a define nano S 😄

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of course ITX motherboard to match

quartz terrace
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So I'll need to get it shipped up to where I live

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So I need to fix it during break

jovial night
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Currently updating a rig and looking for a recommendation on a GPU upgrade it has a 1060 3gb looking for a closer to budget style card

dry tinsel
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1660 Super

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$250 or so

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will beat the pants off that 1060

eager chasm
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Oh God a 3GB 1060...

dry tinsel
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yes i forgot those existed

quartz terrace
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I'd like white case probly going to add some leds

dry tinsel
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it isn't as much the 3GB part that's bad

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it's the less cores

jovial night
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Gf bought a prebuilt before we met so im just finishing a build for her for xmas 🤫

quartz terrace
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What's a 3gb?

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I'm a little behind

dry tinsel
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that specifies the amount of RAM on the card

eager chasm
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No it's definitely the 3GB, the VRam just couldn't handle modern titles from what I heard

quartz terrace
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No I mean what's 3gbs not what is the ram

jovial night
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Also i hear a lot of people shy from the 1660s have ypu had the chance to use one @dry tinsel

quartz terrace
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Like on what

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That's what I mean

dry tinsel
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i haven't

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i'd like a chance

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1660 Super is also specifically different in that it uses GDDR6, so it's a special card among the low budget offerings nvidia has

jovial night
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Okay

eager chasm
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When I RMA'd my VII I had to go back to my 1060 for a few weeks, I was not happy

dry tinsel
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you have a VII? that thing is a beast

eager chasm
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Not really XD

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It's a very unstable card and barely performs better than a 2070 ti

dry tinsel
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well that sucks, i heard better about it

runic pond
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Can anyone help me with my pc not displaying video?

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It’s my first pc build

jovial night
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Also any one use Cable mod custom cables before¿

eager chasm
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Did you plug the display into the motherboard or the video card?

runic pond
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The video card

jovial night
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Has it booted prior or is this your first attempt

jaunty nacelle
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yo whats a 2070 ti lol

runic pond
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It has booted prior but now it’s not

jovial night
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Also why is it so hard to find white pc parts 🤔

runic pond
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I have a rx 580
Ryzen 7 2700x
Msi b450 tomahawk
Thermaltake 700w smart
G.Skill TridantZ Rgb 16gb

jovial night
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Does it boot to bios

runic pond
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No

eager chasm
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So it's not posting then?

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RIP

jovial night
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Oof

dry tinsel
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sometimes building a PC is a bloody mystery

runic pond
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It has before

jovial night
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Facts @dry tinsel

eager chasm
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Yea if it has before and it's not now that probably means something fried

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Saddly

jovial night
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^

runic pond
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Fml

dry tinsel
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sometimes a build will fail and there will be no real reason

runic pond
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I’m just wondering what

jovial night
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Take it apart and put it back together step by step

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Be precise

eager chasm
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If something is fried unless you got another of everything it can be hard to tell what's damaged

runic pond
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Ight thank you all

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I’ll rebuild it tonight

scenic horizon
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Any one know what kind of set up I could get for 600$?

eager chasm
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So annis, the main thing the VII has going for it is it's 16GB 1TB/s VRam, it kinda future proofs it for games with extreme textures

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But it's not super practical for right now

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$600 can make a decent entry level gaming computer

dry tinsel
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yeah, the HBM2

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if they'd use the HBM2 on 5700/XT that'd be a game changeer

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-e

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if they could keep the prices the same, that is

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the bandwidth would be unheard of in a GPU at that level

eager chasm
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This is a decent $620 PC (not including OS)

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And the upgrade path is top notch too

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The VII is amazing, when it feels like it lol

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Like all of a sudden getting 500 extra points in time spy

jovial night
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White gpus anyone?

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Or semi white?

eager chasm
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Radeon VII has a brushed aluminium shroud and back plate... Not quite white

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It's also locked into red light accents

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It can go in a white themed build, but it's kinda not a good value for what it is

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Though looks wize I love it's all metal design and very boxy look

gaunt zinc
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Love the build and back lighting @jade grove

dry tinsel
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when you'll never have a high end GPU

jade grove
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Thanks man!

dry tinsel
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best i'll be getting is an RX 5700

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but it'll... probably handle the 1440p ultrawide i'm getting... p-probably

grave lantern
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Are there any good widescreen monitors for (australian) $200 max?

dry tinsel
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do you mean normal 16:9 aspect or ultrawide

grave lantern
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ultrawide

dry tinsel
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at one point we called that widescreen format

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this looks pretty good

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though a little small

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also australian amazon is a bit expensive now isn't it

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AUD is not that much lower in value than USD to really justify it

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unless they include taxes or something

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in which case yeah, it makes sense

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oh and the whole, having to ship everything to australia

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probably a thing

eager chasm
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I still prefer high refresh 1080p on absolute max settings

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And depending on the game 144fps isn't even acheiveable on extreme settings with 1080p XD

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Some games take the whole graphical setting way too far

dry tinsel
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yes

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i only have a GTX 1650 lol

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so i'll be running games at 1080p, just ultrawide 1080p

eager chasm
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Cranking the resident Evil 2 game from earlier this year up to absolute max can make even a 2080TI struggle

dry tinsel
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yes

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i plan to have an RX 5700 eventually here though

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so that will suit this display nicely

eager chasm
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Nice :)

dry tinsel
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i'm poor, so i have to buy things in steps

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monitor because i need to replace one that failed

eager chasm
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I know feeling

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I took out a loan to buy my VII lol

dry tinsel
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then i need to buy CPU to finish my build

eager chasm
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And used my bonus from work to get a 3700X

dry tinsel
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oof

eager chasm
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I worked around my limitations to make a build far above my normal means :)

dry tinsel
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i'm on a fixed income because of disability, but on the plus side i pay low rent, so i have the ability to buy something along the lines of a $200 CPU + cooler or a $350 GPU or monitor when i want to, but i'd have to save a lot of money for months to buy a really A tier GPU

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and yes, i'm doing the same

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buying an R7 2700 with a hyper T2

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have a define nano S, + ITX board

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RM 750 power supply

eager chasm
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Nice

dry tinsel
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hyper T2 has a big important advantage over the stock cooler: it raises up from the board, and well a second is you can use a retention clip for it and you don't need to do the screwing in screws and all of that nonsense

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i have fine/gross motor problems and anything that makes the PC easier to build out is always better: the worst part is always the front panel connectors, i always dread them

eager chasm
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I can imagine

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In that case why not save the money on the cooler and get slightly better CPU that comes with a retention clip stock cooler?

dry tinsel
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which CPU is that?

eager chasm
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2700X

dry tinsel
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that's a high wattage CPU that offers a modest improvement

eager chasm
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It comes with a Wraith Prism which uses the clips

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You have a PSU that can handle it

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And board

dry tinsel
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i'll be damned

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my board for reference (it's B350 but supports 3rd gen ryzen CPUs)

eager chasm
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Yea that's pretty normal for most B350 boards

dry tinsel
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my guess is you need a first or second gen CPU

eager chasm
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But yea if using a cooler with clips is your main concern and you already 1/2 a step under a CPU that comes with one might as well just go that little bit higher ;)

still roostBOT
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AnniS#7280 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

dry tinsel
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oops

eager chasm
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RIP

dry tinsel
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it runs hot and the cooler is massive

eager chasm
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Massive? 🤔

dry tinsel
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might want to delay installing the cooler until i've plugged everything in

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the cooler hangs over the front panel I/O

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at least it looks like

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2700X would be a big jump in performance though

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judging from the 4.3GHz turbo

eager chasm
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The prism is a really nice cooler, and it's downfire so it can cool the VRMs better

dry tinsel
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yeah that's nice

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i assume the X they're expecting you to overclock

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hence VRM cooling

eager chasm
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Well all ryzens can overclock

dry tinsel
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well yes but

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with 104W on what's essentially an R7 2700

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you have a lot of room to overclock

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the voltage has clearly been bumped too

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because the TDP has

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these are just chips that have binned higher level than others that can handle a higher voltage/wattage and more clock speed

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my RM750 is more than ready to power that thing

eager chasm
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I kinda skipped 2nd gen ryzen so i have no idea how cool it runs on the prism

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Jumped straight from a 1700 to a 3700X

dry tinsel
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getting 2nd gen this time is just for cost reasons

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it's cheaper and it's nearly as good

eager chasm
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Yea

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But I can say the 3700X runs at about 78C when under a decent gaming load on a prism

dry tinsel
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that's good

eager chasm
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But I also use a high quality paste

dry tinsel
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i use arctic mx-4

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which is... good enough

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small bead, allow the cooler to spread it across the IHS

little osprey
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So I had an idea for my """laptop""" idea. Build in an XBOX One original case. Big enough to hold an SFF power supply, mATX motherboard, and a GPU on a riser no problem

dry tinsel
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xbox heug

eager chasm
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I'm using kryonaught paste

dry tinsel
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kryonaut is definitely nicer than MX-4

eager chasm
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It's worked well for me and I haven't experinced the pump out effect like others have

dry tinsel
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i have to order it from china, though, because newegg likes to offer half their items from china

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oh what's that... pump out

eager chasm
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Where the paste heats and expands and flows out the sides

dry tinsel
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obviously using too big of a paste blob

eager chasm
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Not nessisarially

dry tinsel
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size of a bb or a short grain of rice

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should be small, the pressure should spread it

eager chasm
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Kryonaught doesn't cure so it heats and expands and contracts repeatedly

dry tinsel
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and let me guess, it's conductive?

eager chasm
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Its not

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So it's not toooo bad

dry tinsel
#

seems to just have very different properties from other thermal compounds

eager chasm
#

It does

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Non conductive, non curing, and thick

dry tinsel
#

curing can be a bad thing

eager chasm
#

Its also kinda expensive when it's not on sale, $20 for a single gram

dry tinsel
#

yes

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i saw the price and i was almost gonna buy it but nope

eager chasm
#

I got it 75% off

#

$5 for 1 gram xD

dry tinsel
#

arctic MX-4 is pretty good in its own right, it's one of the carbon compounds, basically very finely pulverized ceramics

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it'

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it's very different

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from the aluminum based ones that are most common

eager chasm
#

The super different is carbon graphite pads

dry tinsel
#

yeah those ones i haven't seen at newegg

eager chasm
#

Interestingly enough the VII comes with a giant graphite pad

#

But it's kinda glued in so taking it apart will ruin it

dry tinsel
#

you'll rip the little cores off your GPU

eager chasm
#

No it just ruins the pad XD

#

But really no reason to ever take it apart

dry tinsel
#

the pad is likely needed to cool all the VRMs and such

eager chasm
#

Who cares as long as it works XD

dry tinsel
#

probably was a convenience measure, to provide an interface material that covers everything important

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and is obviously better than those white sticky pads

magic hinge
#

Hey guys

dry tinsel
#

i've outfitted an HD7870 with little heatsinks with sticky pads

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and a big fan on the GPU

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also hey

magic hinge
#

Do you guys know around how much a Zotac gtx 1050 mini would be worth selling? I’m trying to sell my old components to make money for a new pc

dry tinsel
#

50 bucks probably, there isn't a huge used market for that sort of thing

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i mean it costs a little more than $100 new

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but you end up losing out when you sell used goods unfortunately

still roostBOT
#
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magic hinge
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?

dry tinsel
#

yes that happened to me earlier

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certain words are prohibited here

#

it just happens i was not used to it

magic hinge
#

How does that even happen?

dry tinsel
#

trying to get by the wordfilter probably doesn't help

magic hinge
#

I’ve noticed absurd pricing sometimes on there

little osprey
#

R VII pad works well as is, it's a different material vs the normal stuff.

#

It's just extra steps lol ^^

dry tinsel
#

R VII is a pretty magnificent beast from a tech standpoint

mild ridge
magic hinge
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Like look at this

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How

dry tinsel
#

sorry, them's the breaks - these are artificially inflated from unscrupulous sellers

#

the actual price should be a little over $100

magic hinge
#

Aaah okay

little osprey
#

Nice, I'm sure you'll be happy with the system.

eager parcel
#

Who runs a intel cpu with a AMD gpu?

#

Any complaints?

little osprey
#

I'm glad the earlier folks didn't talk you out of what you wanted too far haha. If anything I would've gone 3200c14 4x8 - but even in the US, that's not cheap off sale

dry tinsel
#

intel isn't tied to nvidia

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they are unrelated

mild ridge
#

@little osprey That's what I choose, its 2x if u look at it

eager chasm
#

Almost any CPU and GPU can be paired

magic hinge
#

Also one more question

little osprey
#

3200c16, but yes. It won't matter for your case, but when you get up to 4000c17 or 4133 18 18 18 38 etc - it's usually a good idea to get 4x8 vs 2x 2x8

magic hinge
#

Will this ram fit in the b450-a pro?

mild ridge
#

oh right, true

eager chasm
#

Yes technically

little osprey
#

@ RyokuHasu amen , I wish I took picures of amd/nvidia same board

magic hinge
#

will it work?

little osprey
#

Anyway @ SnowDCrow - I have a similish build, feel free to hmu if you have questions down the line

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Oh wow that's a nice monitor

eager chasm
#

My X470 board supports both SLI and Crossfire,

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:D

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Not that I'd ever use em

little osprey
#

also I meant gtx 1070, 1080 1080, rx580 lol

eager chasm
#

Lol

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@magic hinge yes that ram should work in that board

magic hinge
#

Sweet

eager chasm
#

I'd aim for a 3200 kit myself, but 3000 is still good

mild ridge
#

@little osprey I did so much research on the monitor and ended up choosing that one... now I need a 27inch to pair it up

little osprey
#

If it's $100 or less I just tell everyone to get a b450 /m gaming plus / tomahawk max whichever is cheap, if neither, i go for whatever the 3000 page long overclock.net threads for those motherboard owners say they prefer

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Unpopular opinion, use a 2nd pc for that 2nd monitor if the primary one is primarily for gaming. $150 2nd pc is easily enough.

eager chasm
#

I have a 24" and a 24.5" monitor but since the slightly larger one has ultra thins bezels they sit at the same hight side by side :)

little osprey
#

Well - at least until windows fixes DWM and g-sync

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It's more of an anoyance / convenience factor vs $150 on top of - whatever that list of parts was haha

#

having a 2k 27 next to a 4k 27 was pretty unpleant too , need to sell one lol

dry tinsel
#

well goodnight

eager chasm
#

Night

dry tinsel
#

here it's 2:26

mild ridge
#

@little osprey Second monitor would be for OBS, Discord, Youtube, Twitch while I play

little osprey
#

what makes a water block good or not? fin density?

eager chasm
#

Fin design, corrosion resistant materials, flow rate

scarlet inlet
#

The motherboard I plan on using (msi b450 tomahawk max) has 4 x 4-pin fan headers. Does that mean that I can only connect up 4 case fans? Also, the fans I'm planning on using (and that come with the case, be quiet! Pure Wings 2, 140mm) have 3-pin connectors, will those be compatible with the mobo? Is that 4th pin just for rgb or something?

jade grove
#

i think the 3 pin pwm fans have a 4th blank spot so the SHOULD be compatible (check forums and reviews to be sure) and as for the amount of fans, you could always use a splitter if you need more fans

little osprey
#

3 pin fans are DC only. If you plug them into a 4 pin slow that's set to pwm mode, they'll be fine, but run 100%

jade grove
#

Ah that makes sense. i thought there i was something missing lol

little osprey
#

Depends on fan model technically, but ya

scarlet inlet
#

oh so they always run at 100% speed?

little osprey
#

Look up the datasheet for the fan model

scarlet inlet
#

yea I'm really new to all of this, so what it means is that the fans wouldn't change speeds depending on the needs? The 3 pins are just positive, negative and a ground?

#

Okay that makes sense, then I suspect I can also just plug in 2 3-pin fans into a 4-pin Ysplit cable?

dry tinsel
#

yes

#

also i'm back, i am a terrible sleeper

scarlet inlet
#

Amazing, then I can have 3 in and 3 out fans 😄 now I guess I should figure out if I'll need fan cable extenders

dry tinsel
#

my fractal design define nano S came with a fan splitter

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fractal is the best

scarlet inlet
#

Oh mhh, maybe I should check if it comes with one of my parts too, I'm kind of a be quiet fan

dry tinsel
#

some of their drive mounting stuff is just so hard to figure out, but they're wonderful overall

scarlet inlet
#

pun not intended

dry tinsel
#

be quiet is also quite good

#

i like fractal because they offer cases without windows

#

my cable management is adequate but not spectacular

#

:3

scarlet inlet
#

How should I have my fans mounted then? I can have max 3 on the front, 3 on top and 1 at the back. I'm thinking of 2 at the front (air in), 1 at the back (air in), and 2 on top (out)

dry tinsel
#

that sounds like a sound way to handle things

scarlet inlet
#

hehe, I love the be quiet 801, It's way too overkill for what I'm building but I wouldn't wanna build it in any other case

#

mhh

#

lemme make a lil' sketch

dry tinsel
scarlet inlet
dry tinsel
#

oh i see, well that's a nice case

scarlet inlet
#

oh that looks cool, I like small cases

dry tinsel
#

certainly simpler mounting than the fractal case

#

there's like two mounting brackets for HDD/SSD

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and you screw the disk on the bracket prior to screwing the bracket on the case

scarlet inlet
#

hehe probably yea, I'd route all air out the back but there is only space for 1 an

#

yep

dry tinsel
#

there's a big space for fans or rads up top

#

you just pop off the moduvent cover

scarlet inlet
#

yea it slides out, for easy mounting

#

Maybe I do 3 fans in the front (in), 2 on top (out), and 1 in the back (out)

dry tinsel
#

just make sure you get that positive pressure

scarlet inlet
#

also true

strong plank
#

guys, does anyone of u know how to remove the front of a Corsair 100R?

scarlet inlet
#

don't think 1 fan out would be plenty tho, so maybe 1 on the top and one at the back out

dry tinsel
#

i unfortunately have no experience with that case

scarlet inlet
dry tinsel
#

oh hey we found the same post

scarlet inlet
#

xD first result

strong plank
#

lmao thx

dry tinsel
#

depends on how you google though

#

googling properly is a skill that a lot do not have

scarlet inlet
#

Corsair 100R front panel removal

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? 😉

lyric thistle
#

Rip

#

I can't google either 😢

dry tinsel
#

except i typed "remove front panel corsair 100r"

#

results the same

scarlet inlet
#

yea

dry tinsel
scarlet inlet
dry tinsel
#

solid layout

#

mine is

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1x140mm up front, 1x120mm in the rear

scarlet inlet
#

small case, less fans xD

dry tinsel
#

i want to get a 3 way fan splitter, so i can put two noctua NF-P14s up front

little osprey
#

hi

scarlet inlet
#

I was thinking of doing a small white themed build, but since this is my first attempt at building, I figured I'd start with an easier layout.

#

oh yea, do 3 way also exist now?

dry tinsel
#

oh they have for ages

#

there are like 5 way that have a PCB with the fan connectors

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and a molex to power them 😂

scarlet inlet
#

mh I might just have to get 1 3 way splitter instead of 2 2 way splitters then

#

amazing

dry tinsel
#

these are golden

#

expensive though

scarlet inlet
#

expensive indeed

#

wow

dry tinsel
#

when i get an RX 5700 in there i'm gonna need those

#

that static pressure

#

there are cheaper noctua fans but like

#

nobody else really makes a specialty static pressure fan

#

and looks like it might be a bit better quality in terms of having some anti-vibration mounts

scarlet inlet
#

yea, noctua might be a little quieter though

dry tinsel
#

eh

#

my case has noise dampening foam all over the place

scarlet inlet
#

well no worries then

dry tinsel
#

you can't hear anything with a mechanical 3TB toshiba drive (not known for their silent disks as WD and Seagate are)

#

my build failed the first time so i'm getting that new CPU

#

and trying it again

scarlet inlet
#

oh wow, that's cool, don't you want to see your system running though?

dry tinsel
#

no, actually

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i'm satisfied that it is, when it is

scarlet inlet
#

Yea, I'm not into rgb and stuff, but I'd like to see those fans spinning quietly 😊

dry tinsel
#

less noise trumps the visual stimulus of seeing fans

#

also i love the cold cathode lights

#

from back when we still used those

scarlet inlet
#

Yea not sure what those are

dry tinsel
#

you can buy them still if you just want to light up your case nicely

#

without RGB strips

#

hmm

scarlet inlet
#

is it just a led strip or something? like chistmas lights?

dry tinsel
#

this is one in action

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see it's a tube like fluorescent lights

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but it doesn't get hot like those tubes do

#

this is an ancient build, obviously

scarlet inlet
#

oh it looks cool tho

dry tinsel
#

that's gotta be like a GeForce GTX 8400 or something in there

#

maybe even the 8800

#

with 384MB of RAM

#

2006-era system

scarlet inlet
#

lol I just got my granny's old desktop, it has like 256gb of ram, dual core processor, wanna take it apart before I build my own system, to see how it all goe

#

mb*

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that is

dry tinsel
#

my first rig was purchased from a shop

#

433MHz Pentium II class Celeron, 96MB RAM, 9GB SCSI-II HD, integrated graphics, and probably a soundblaster 16 equivalent sound card was included oddly enough

scarlet inlet
#

hehe gotta love the old days

#

anyways, I should get my day going, see ya around!

dry tinsel
#

2000 was a good time, i was 17, had this job since i was 16, felt confident in buying a computer so i did

#

alright take care

eager chasm
#

I had a computer from 1995 up until about 2008 and I didn't know anything about computers at the time, after it broke down completely I just used laptops until a couple years ago

#

My laptops kept frying cause they all had poor cooling for playing games on them constantly

lyric thistle
#

Oof

hollow sonnet
#

Guys hello :D

#

I need some help!

#

Got an aorus master z390, and im wondering if i can install two small m.2 ssd in there (2280)

polar holly
#

@hollow sonnet whats up

hollow sonnet
#

The question because it just have 1 small slot

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The other ones are bigger :/

polar holly
#

Your board should have three m.2 slots on it.

hollow sonnet
#

Yep

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But 2 are bigger than the other

polar holly
#

Yes that's just fit different sizes of m.2 cards. They all are rated at the same interface speed

#

so what current issue are having with it

#

or are you just wondering where to put them

hollow sonnet
#

Mm the issue i put the first one in the small slot and it fit perfectly

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But the 2nd one wont fix perfectly as the other

#

Isn't there a problem with that?

stark summit
#

is the b450 steel legend mirco atx compatiable with amd ryzen 3

polar holly
#

Not out of the box

stark summit
#

im super new to all of this can i still use that borad

polar holly
#

@hollow sonnet what do you mean it is not fitting perfectly. Do the pins still go into the connector with not issues

stark summit
#

board sorry typo

polar holly
#

If you update the bios on the board it will be compatible. But you will need a older gen 2 cpu for that step

stark summit
#

ok thanks

hollow sonnet
#

I'm talking about the size, because the "small slot" it have a screw that you can use it "secure" the ssd to the motherboard

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As long the other slots are larger, the ssd won't get there, the connector will fit perfectly

polar holly
#

Becasue a 2280 m.2 is shorter than a 22110 means it should fit in the upper slots as long as the connector is working with the drive. Along with this the thermal spreader will hold the drive down with out a srew in the drive itself.

hollow sonnet
#

Oh ok 😃

#

Thank you very much!

loud apex
#

what 450 boards work without needing to flash the bios for 3rd gen

eager chasm
#

Any board that has the official Ryzen 3000 Ready sticker slapped on it

#

I know a decent amount of ASRock boards are pre-flashed

#

This one says it supports 3rd gen, it's an MSI board

#

Has 5 egg score

polar holly
#

All board that Say max by MSI

signal dock
#

Can someone please help me with my gpu?

sudden turret
#

you said it was dead yeah?

#

explain a little mroe

knotty sluice
#

hey guys, just an update from about a week ago. I was able to double check and the red lights on the msi pro carbon lights indicate that the ram is being read properly. just giving an update on what i finally found out.

sudden turret
#

excellent!

#

so it's something else.

knotty sluice
#

oh the ram is good. i was reading other things online that were false. on the board, the red lights mean that the ram is working properly. i thought it was an error indication

#

so everything is working properly.

sudden turret
#

you're just not getting a picture?

#

please refresh my memory

#

I forgot lol

knotty sluice
#

i thought the red lights were showing as an error and not as they are working. (typically red lights show error.)

#

it just shows an empty list

hollow grove
#

THATS EMBARRISING.

#

I copied the wrong url and now mine reset

#

Frick

sudden turret
#

an empty list?

knotty sluice
#

but i do have a question. if you get a new processor and motherboard, is there a way to keep windows 10? or do i need to get it again?

sudden turret
#

nah you be fine

#

oh

#

well

signal dock
#

@sudden turret well my Strix GTX970 worked all good a few days ago. But it had crashed once. Then the other day the pc crashed again and the 3rd time it didnt turn on anymore

sudden turret
#

mobo is tied to the windows key

still roostBOT
#
Björn, Süpèríör#6969 has been warned

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knotty sluice
#

is the fan working on the graphics card

sudden turret
#

can you recall the temps you had before the crash Rcoket?

knotty sluice
#

i had the same issues a few weeks ago

hollow grove
#

I put my old hdd into my entirely new pc and I can use my windows 10 fine

knotty sluice
#

where my fan quit working and i had to get it fixed. it was getting stuck from dust on the guarding and i just removed the guarding

#

ty bjorn

signal dock
#

@sudden turret well they were a little high. I believe about 55 degrees after it had crashed and had been turned on again

hollow grove
#

Ye

sudden turret
#

I would suspect driver issues

knotty sluice
#

i would keep the covers off, update drivers and keep an eye on your fan.

#

when is the last time you took the fan apart to clean any dust/debris out of it?

signal dock
#

Me?

knotty sluice
#

yeah

signal dock
#

Well the fans are fine and are spinning

#

And the light on the gpu is on as well

hollow grove
knotty sluice
#

but are they full of dust? it could stop air flow. also, what about fans going into the pc

hollow grove
#

I think

signal dock
#

Ive got 3 input and 2 output fans

knotty sluice
#

and are all fans going towards the pc or do you have exhaust fans blowing out

#

okay.

signal dock
#

And no theyre all clean

knotty sluice
#

i would try to resurface it with a dab of thermal paste

signal dock
#

I opened it up and the thermal paste is all dried out

sudden turret
#

yeah

#

those old cards, repaste will help with tempos

#

temps

knotty sluice
#

see if maybe there was some speration and it the heat sink is not making contact

signal dock
#

But could that really be the reason for it not to work

knotty sluice
#

yes

sudden turret
#

use DDU, reinstall drivers

#

might help with crashing

knotty sluice
#

if there is no contact, the heat will not transfer

#

^

signal dock
#

Thats one thing i tried

sudden turret
#

you said 55c? at idle

#

?

signal dock
#

@sudden turret yh

#

After gaming session

hollow grove
#

That’s not good

#

Oh

sudden turret
#

what is it during gaming

knotty sluice
#

have you checked overclock settings

signal dock
#

Well idk cus it doesnt work

#

It turns on but it doesnt give a signal

knotty sluice
#

i would try the thermal paste and go from there

#

let me ask

signal dock
#

Go ahead

sudden turret
#

proper psu wattage?

muted patio
#

Tried all the output ports on it?

knotty sluice
#

it powers on until you see the bios setup and where you can hit del and the other keys and just shuts off?

#

if you wait a few min. it lasts longer?

signal dock
#

Ive got a 450w 80plus gold

#

@knotty sluice no its doesnt give any signal at all

knotty sluice
#

have you let is sit for a while first to let it cool?

muted patio
#

You've tried all the outputs on the card?

signal dock
#

@sudden turret i dont think thats the problem bec i had a R9 280x before with a higher Wattage and that worked fine

knotty sluice
#

what about the battery?

#

in the motherboard

signal dock
#

@knotty sluice yes for a day already

knotty sluice
#

have you tried to replace that

sudden turret
#

you said you pulled it off and the paste was hard.. did you reapply new paste

signal dock
#

@knotty sluice i have removed the cmos battery already and updated the bios

knotty sluice
#

okay. and the paste was hard

signal dock
#

I tried doing DDU but u cant get into safe mode

#

@knotty sluice yes

knotty sluice
#

clean it with some high % rubbing alcohol on a q-tip or cotton ball gently. and try new thermal paste

signal dock
#

@knotty sluice i dont have thermal paste. I ordered it though but that wont come for a while

knotty sluice
#

the thermal paste sounds like its the best option at this point. you may have lost the connection between the heat sink and the board

#

go to best buy or a close computer store. its only like 6 bucks or so

signal dock
#

I can combine it

#

I have to buy a new cpu cooler.

#

If thermal paste comes with that would that do fine

#

??

knotty sluice
#

the cooler might/should come with it applied. but not always.

signal dock
#

Ive got my eye on one with seperate thermal paste?

knotty sluice
#

i mean thermal paste is cheap. cheaper then buying a cpu cooler.

little osprey
#

I’m new to PCs and I had a quick question is it possible to swap out my ram I have and put a better ram in?

knotty sluice
#

and you can put it on anything that has the heat sink. which could fix all the problesm

sudden turret
#

yeah I wouldn't run it until you applied new paste

knotty sluice
#

problems

signal dock
#

@sudden turret i wont

knotty sluice
#

you could burn it up or damage something else.

signal dock
#

@little osprey yes you can

#

If its the same Mhz and DDR and if your mobo supports it

knotty sluice
#

like i said. if you have a best buy, i think even target or walmart may have it. but take a look. its cheap and might be an easy solution

signal dock
#

@knotty sluice you dont have that where I live

little osprey
#

Yeah I have a trident 3000mhz but it’s only one and I want to install up to 32

#

I only have one bar of 8 atm

signal dock
#

@little osprey how much GB dus or mobo support?

little osprey
#

64

#

4 slots

signal dock
#

Then you can buy 3 more of 8 gb

#

Preferably the exact same ones

little osprey
#

Yeah ima get the same ones

#

Thanks

signal dock
#

Your welcome

knotty sluice
#

okay question for you guys, if you use intel processor do need nvidia graphics card? or can you use an amd? or does it matter on motherboard

muted patio
#

Doesn't matter

signal dock
#

@knotty sluice doesnt matter

#

I used both on my intel core i5

knotty sluice
#

cool thanks.

little osprey
#

if i have 3600 ram but my mobo only supports 3466 will i just use 3466??

#

i don’t get why i supports 3466 and then 4000 but no 3600

narrow rose
#

It should be fine at 3466 and I imagine if the max is 4000 then 3600 will also be fine

loud apex
#

can someone help

mild ridge
#

We should have a #rgb channel 😂

tame fossil
#

I'am here for the cleanest RGB Build

#

hope for winning

mild ridge
#

I want to ask about getting some icue strips for my 500D

#

Do I need more controller, or can I use the one that comes with the case?

glossy hound
#

I’m new to building and have got a 16gb of vengeance 3200

#

Ryzen. 5 3000

#

ASUS prime 450ma

#

Gtx 1660 oc

#

240gb ssd

#

550w

#

Any advice

rugged copper
#

for what?

glossy hound
#

Everything

cursive wharf
#

Corsair ram is generally overpriced, Asus prime b450 is bad for its price, 1660S is barely more than a 1660 for quite a bit more perf. which SSD model, which PSU model?

glossy hound
#

I got the mother board cup and ram for £250

#

Psu is a Corsair modular not sure which

cursive wharf
#

CXM?

glossy hound
#

And a western didgital ssd

cursive wharf
#

Just get CX cuz CXM has coil whine issues

glossy hound
#

Idk

#

I got all new parts

little osprey
#

Cant wait to get a 10900k

cursive wharf
#

Just going to be a 9900k with a slight OC tho

little osprey
#

No, it will have 2 more cores, and a better imc

#

New socket too

silent pivot
#

Yeah

#

So

round flare
#

so you need 2 screens

silent pivot
#

Yes

#

Helps a hella lot while programming

round flare
#

and you'll be gaming too correct

silent pivot
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Yes

round flare
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so then

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maybe 1 high refresh and resolution

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and another medium one

silent pivot
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I code on a 10 years old PC , and use my phone to open references and stuff lol

round flare
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like 1080p 75 or 144hz or smth

silent pivot
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Yes that what I thought

round flare
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well that would work

silent pivot
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Like 1 1440p 240hz and 1 1080p 60hz

round flare
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ye

silent pivot
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Ok time to find a fitting build

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And money is not a problem for me rn

round flare
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Wait you want me to make you a list

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I can

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if you want

silent pivot
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Sure if you can

round flare
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ok brb

silent pivot
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Ok

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Thx

round flare
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ok

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so o

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it's hard to find a 1440 240hz monitor for a reasonable price

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so I did 1440 155hz

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or 165 i don't remember

little osprey
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i don't even think current ports have enough bandwidth to support 240hz @ 1440? could be wrong

round flare
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ye i don't remember

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@silent pivot here's ur list

silent pivot
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Thx

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Alot

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Build looks good

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Can't wait to build it

round flare
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ye just so you know

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the cooler and the kbm can change

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you can pick those if you want

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just put those in to show it fits in budget

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because that cooler expensive and you might want to pick one you like more

deep skiff
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@silent pivot do u like the rgb?

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cause u could save a fair amount not getting it, but its ur choice

silent pivot
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On what parts?

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Lol

round flare
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cooler

silent pivot
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Oh ok

round flare
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the ram too but its 32gb of fast ram made specifically for ryzen

silent pivot
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Yeah I noticed

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Not changing the ram

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Will take a look at the cooler

round flare
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The mobo I guess could be b450 but

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idk

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with a cpu like thag

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that

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might as well get the newest platform

silent pivot
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I should go full unicorn barf

round flare
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you can

silent pivot
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Or else I am not a good gamer

round flare
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you have a lot of room for rgb strips and fans

stoic island
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Rgb is nice to have

round flare
silent pivot
deep skiff
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heres a build where i kind of went away from rgb, but i would change the gpu to the xc ultra as its really close in price, and much better cooling and and overclock way better https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BtTL9G

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and a little cheaper slower kit of ram, but if you look at benchmarks the ram doesn't really matter 3600mhz cl16 or 3200mhz cl16

silent pivot
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Ok

round flare
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ye that gpu is better

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like I said cooler subjective

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I'd keep the ram though

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you said money is not a problem

silent pivot
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Yeah it really isn't

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I can blow 5K on a pc but I don't think that I need a PC that expensive

round flare
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Nah

deep skiff
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if money wasn't a problem i'd look at going with a ips 1440p 144hz monitor instead of tn tbh

round flare
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unless you want a third gen threadripper you don't need that kind of cash

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yeah doesn't like aoc or something make ips monitors at those specs

silent pivot
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Yeah I know

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I don't know a thing about monitors though

round flare
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ips have better color accuracy

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just come at a bigger price

deep skiff
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tn is good for more budget and esports players, va has great contrast but bad ghosting, and ips is the middle with the best colors with slower response time than tn but faster than va

round flare
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yeah are you gonna play e sports titles

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like csgo and overwatch and other stuff like that

silent pivot
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Probably not

round flare
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ok ips

silent pivot
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Like alot more story based games

deep skiff
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ignore the prices, some ips monitors have been like $330 sometimes

silent pivot
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Ok

deep skiff
eager chasm
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Sceptre was rated the best of the SUPER budget monitors by LTT

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if you really want high refresh on an extreme budget

silent pivot
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I don't need a cheap monitor

eager chasm
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ok nvm 😄

silent pivot
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I need a nice monitor

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Ok thanks alot on the help everybody

eager chasm
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I'll just be over here... In budget 165Hz land 😉

deep skiff
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heres the one i have rn, its a great solid monitor if you don't see price as that much as an issue https://www.pixiogaming.com/px7

silent pivot
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I am willing to spend the 430$

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Thanks alot

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Like can this build last me 5 years?

deep skiff
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yeah id say it could last a bit longer than that

silent pivot
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Oh nice

deep skiff
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considering how powerful the specs are

round flare
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2080ti and a cpu that tears everything apart

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you're set

rose osprey
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@royal pelican 😄

gaunt zinc
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What?

round flare
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he likes you guys

indigo crow
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Best cpu to pair with 2070 super?

stoic island
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Gaming only or multi purpose

indigo crow
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Gaming and maybe coding etc

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@stoic island

stoic island
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Some intel CPU likely be good, wait for someone more experienced than me

median sail
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More of my parts came in today

gaunt zinc
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Oooo, I plan on getting those in the future.

median sail
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Original price was about 150$

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But on bf

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I got for about 90

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I still waiting for my water lock

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And

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Coolant

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To come in

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And I might just buy another 970 pro 512gb to run raid

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And a 9900k

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9900ks is going for 800$ on amazon

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Lol

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It’s kinda bad I’m using these rgb drives mainly for looks

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And backup

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But I guess 300$ for some more rgb

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Worth

narrow rose
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good call on the k over the ks

median sail
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Yeah I mean it’s same performance

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Even proven on linus

narrow rose
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both videos I've seen of people comaparing the 2 the 9900k outperformed the 9900ks in overclocking

median sail
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Basically same chip just some are garentee 4gz

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5

narrow rose
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didnt even linus's 9900k get higher stable speeds than the 9900ks?

median sail
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Also yes they overclocked a 9900k higher then ks

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And it’s 400$ cheaper

narrow rose
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yeah I mean that would make me angry

median sail
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Lol

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I need to sell my ram and current cpu

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It’s 32 gb of 2666 MHz ram