building-and-recc-chat

[round flare]

ok so apparently my storage and psu suck

how about the rest of the build

[cursive wharf]

Not all TT PSUs suck

also just realized you were talking about the recommended built

so uhhh brain.exe has stopped responding

[icy plume]

how do you even get that text

[cursive wharf]

Also pretty sure the cheap 5700XT reddragons are out of stock so I went with the Pulse cuz it's just as good but currently cheaper

[round flare]

but sapphire nitro +

[latent bronze]

Is Brain.msc still working?

[cursive wharf]

Last I checked it was better for a 2070S tho as Nitro+ is too pricy

[round flare]

lol

[cursive wharf]

Now that goes out of my knowledge of what .msc is

[latent bronze]

Well 5700XT is better in certain games

[round flare]

5700xt is better in all games if you use willpower

[cursive wharf]

yes, willpower is what powers out PCs

[icy plume]

5700XT is a high performing card for the price i believe, problem is thermal throttle on it

[round flare]

nah

[cursive wharf]

It gets bad thermals on blower coolers

[round flare]

that's if you buy a thicc 2

[latent bronze]

5700XT is actually classed as a mid range type

[round flare]

thicc suck succy succy

thicc 2 I mean

[cursive wharf]

2070S/5700XT is midranged?

thought that was 1660S/1660Ti

[round flare]

I mean

2080ti titan rtx exist

they're like

up there

[icy plume]

if it runs 4k, i call it high-end

[latent bronze]

Well that is what they have been classed as

[icy plume]

and i'm pretty sure the 5700XT performs similar to the 2070

[round flare]

I mean

the 5700xt can duel a 2070s actually

[cursive wharf]

5700XT is in-between a 2070 and 2070S

[round flare]

why'd I say duel

ew

yu gi oh time

[latent bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/its-time-to-duel-yugioh-lightning-gif-12099769

[icy plume]

yes

[heavy slate]

does anyone know a affordable gaming labtop?

[round flare]

what price point would you mean by affordable

[icy plume]

@heavy slate what kind of games do you want to run and at what frames and resolution

[latent bronze]

More like how much money you have to spend

[strange mango]

@icy plume it's a pre-built from about 3 years ago.
I5-6400 2.7 GHz, Nvidia GTX 1060, and 16 GB RAM.

[heavy slate]

probably R6 at 144 fps and around $1000

[icy plume]

not bad morris

[round flare]

1000

[icy plume]

lemme see what i can find sticky

[heavy slate]

k thx

[round flare]

well that opens up a lot of possibilities

[latent bronze]

1000$ for a gaming laptop would be this https://www.newegg.com/p/2WC-000N-00920

[cursive wharf]

@stray idol So I took like 5 years but here
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bVGz6R
also take out the 1TB HDD, forgot to do that

[latent bronze]

and 120hz is the max for that price range

[strange mango]

The keyboard is a Blackwidow I got on sale at Walmart for $50, and the mouse is an Logitech g502 Lightspeed.

[round flare]

8gb of ram

[latent bronze]

Well he could get the MSI one's but they have 60hz monitors

[winged hollow]

yeah that was my reaction too

@round flare

[round flare]

[heavy slate]

thx @latent bronze

[latent bronze]

np

Besides for R6S he will hit over 120 frames as well

There is this as well but what AMD said for this GPU is that it would be better than the 1650 https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16834155312

@heavy slate

[little osprey]

@latent bronze

Those specs aren't too dissimilar from my laptop

Except mine has a 1660 Ti

[latent bronze]

The MSI one or the Asus

[little osprey]

I have an Asus ROG Zephyrus GA502DU

[sudden turret]

nice!

[little osprey]

3750H, 1660 Ti, 512 SSD, 16 RAM, and 120hz panel

It's. sufficient

[teal bison]

How much of a difference is there in an SSD versus a 7200 rpm HDD?

[icy plume]

#storage-devices

[cursive wharf]

Depends on what you're doing

[eager chasm]

Why do all the Ryzen 5 prebuilts on Newegg kinda suck for value? D:

[teal bison]

Mostly just gaming

and sorry ill ask over there

[latent bronze]

@teal bison here is the difference https://youtu.be/V3AMz-xZ2VM

[teal bison]

thanks!

[eager chasm]

Sata SSD tops out at 600MB/s

7200 HDD tops out at about 150MB/z

NVMe SSD, almost no top

though personally I use mass storage HDDs for my steam library cause I'm not putting multiple TB of games on SSDs that's too expensive for me

[latent bronze]

ya but for loading up into games you would hardly notice the difference between a NVMe and a 2.5" SSD

[cinder igloo]

Frekin rgb fans have me cucked

[latent bronze]

That video as well is a prime example

[eager chasm]

only game i intentionally put on an NVMe is Black Desert cause it has horrible pop-in even on regular sata SSDs

[icy plume]

isn't black desert one of those free-to-play MMO's

[eager chasm]

it's buy to play

[latent bronze]

I played B&S instead of BDO

B&S is free to play

[eager chasm]

though BDO is 1 time payment of $10, really not a high pay-wall

[latent bronze]

it is an action MMO like BDO and Tera

B&S = Blade & Soul

[eager chasm]

though BDO is the heaviest graphically

maybe the pop-in issue got better, they did optimize the game a LOT recently

[latent bronze]

Actually there is a game heavier than BDO

and i believe a little older as well

@eager chasm Final Fantasy XIV would be the more graphically demanding and CPU demanding

[little osprey]

No ju

Build me a pc

[icy plume]

not sure that's how this works

[latent bronze]

But you can turn water into PC parts

[icy plume]

brooo

[little osprey]

@latent bronze air coo betta

Noctua dh15

Dark rock pro 4

Betta den de wata Kool dawg

[nimble quest]

@latent bronze im turning my skytech pos into a whole new computer

[little osprey]

The savior we deserve

[icy plume]

what

[viral ore]

It's a play on the word "saves"

[icy plume]

yeah

[jovial night]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y7YCdm my current build

[eager chasm]

nice

[jovial night]

tyty

[coarse coral]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4Dv7Rk my current, going to be updated later this week

[little osprey]

I came up with a micro center list because i kind of like the idea of getting high off some DC weed and then going to micro center in fairfax...

https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=970b81ae-bae9-4933-acf0-518846932a0f

[old charm]

i have 2 fants, which one do i install?

came with the cpu

this is the one i bought

[jovial night]

Hyper 212

Or get noctua

[next tangle]

Upgrade accomplished!

Did it myself too! 😀

[old charm]

what do i do with this white thing that looks like a memory card?

[little osprey]

I'm pretty sure that's like thermal paste but like a pad but I'm unsure, why don't you open it up and just look at it a little

Like open up the cpu container thing

[old charm]

okay

I am hesitant to open stuff willy nilly which is why i kept it in there

[next tangle]

no

NO

[little osprey]

Are you still waiting on parts?

[next tangle]

grab it from the sides

you see the golden Triangle?

line it up with the triangle on the socket of your mother board

once you do that, lightly place it into there

make sure your latch is up

once processor is in, close the latch

[little osprey]

So it IS thermal paste/compound

[next tangle]

no it isn't

[little osprey]

oh

[next tangle]

the thermal paste is on his cooler

[little osprey]

i'm misinterpreting what you're saying

He's asking about the tiny packet

not the cpu

[next tangle]

oh

[next tangle]

that you can just ignore

[little osprey]

so its prolly like a sticker or somethin

dang

[next tangle]

yes

[little osprey]

OHHH

It's one of those stickers that goes on the case

[next tangle]

let me check mine hold on

[little osprey]

That makes so much more sense

[next tangle]

probably, sir

[little osprey]

Size wise it's pretty understandable

Like the little intel stickers

[old charm]

so i don't need it?

[little osprey]

You don't unless you wanna put the sticker on your case like prebuilts and stuff do

I might put my sticker on when it comes in but idk, it's tempting but I don't really want to ruin the whole aesthetic of a tempered glass front panel

[upper thunder]

So I think I found why a bunch of people are having problems with x570 boards

[little osprey]

Why's that?

[upper thunder]

Mostly everybody that I’ve spoke with that have had problems, their RAM has faster speed than the processor

[little osprey]

That makes sense but I don't see why the memory wouldn't automatically downclock

Unless the problem is with the motherboard's BIOS (or the mobo itself, I don't know much about mobos) not automatically downclocking the memory once it notices the problem

[upper thunder]

I’m sure it’s the BIOS

[little osprey]

So you could probably fix it with a little bios modification

[upper thunder]

It might be the chipset though, because I’ve talked to people with different boards from dif manufacturers

[little osprey]

hm

So maybe there's a fault in the chipset's communication with the bios, or even the execution of something the bios tries to do

[open oriole]

I actually came here to ask about RAM being faster than the Motherboard, to make sure it would work out lols.

first time pc builder 😛

[little osprey]

Most of the time it'll just slow down your memory modules for you

[open oriole]

yeah

[little osprey]

But it appears in this case that there's another issue (regarding the x570 chipset)

[open oriole]

oof

[upper thunder]

Nice, I was running out of money so I ended up getting ram that was 200mhz slower than my cpu and it’s worked fine with the x570 boards

[old charm]

do i automatically put the ram into slot 1 and not 2?

[little osprey]

Clutch

Slots 1 and 3

and then 2 and 4

[old charm]

like both of them go into slot 1?

[little osprey]

I think

[old charm]

I only have 2

[upper thunder]

It should go either 0101 or 1010

Zero meaning no ram stick

1 meaning ram stick

Because of dual channel stuff

[old charm]

oh

[little osprey]

^

[old charm]

okay

[little osprey]

space em out by one

unless you're going quad channel

[old charm]

okay

[upper thunder]

But I recommend to put it 0101

[cursive wharf]

quad channel?

[upper thunder]

Because of the heat from the processor

[cursive wharf]

you're still spacing them out

[little osprey]

wdym

[upper thunder]

Quad channel is just dual channel twice

[cursive wharf]

1111 and 1010 is still dual channel on almost all boards

[little osprey]

I have four channels of ddr3 1066mhz, 4gb each and 16gb total

oH

[upper thunder]

Yea

[little osprey]

Also guys

Is it healthy that I idle at 4.4gb

note I have a lot of standby programs

[upper thunder]

Wym?

[little osprey]

4.4 gb ram usage

[upper thunder]

Oh

Seems normal

Mine does that too

[little osprey]

oh good
also this is what i'm at rn, got a few tabs open in Firefox, a separate Firefox window, Discord, snipping tool and task manager obv

[upper thunder]

Windows 10 likes to eat up ram usage

[little osprey]

fr

flash back to when win7 wasn't eos

[upper thunder]

Lol

[little osprey]

Wasn't Win8 worse?

I never actually worried about windows 8

[upper thunder]

Yea

[still roost]

WhiteBaconJeb#3077 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

F

[upper thunder]

Oof

[little osprey]

feel a little strongly about OS ram usage? lol

[upper thunder]

Yea

And the fact it was designed

[old charm]

do i have to push?

[upper thunder]

Yes

[little osprey]

What if Win8 was ahead of its time

[upper thunder]

Push until there is a click on both sides

With ram

You’ll see the clips move over it holding it in place

@old charm

[little osprey]

^

like these little weird spike things in the sides will be clamped onto by the little plastic clips on the motherboard

I'm a god at describing things

give me my nobel peace prize

[upper thunder]

Lol

[old charm]

uggggh it feels like im gonna break it 😩

[upper thunder]

Yea

[old charm]

I really don't wanna push any harder than I was

[upper thunder]

I was uncomfortable for my first time putting ram in

It does take a bit of force

[old charm]

I'm hearing uncomfortable noises that is freaking me out too

okay round 2

[upper thunder]

Wym?

The board should flex as well

But it shouldnt be making noises

Oh crap

I forgot tell you

@old charm

It is important which way the ram is inserted

It won’t go in if it’s the wrong way

[old charm]

which was is the right way?

[upper thunder]

There is a whole in the ram stick where you insert it

And there should be a plastic part that sticks up in the hole it’s inserted in into the board

Those need to match or it won’t fit

I’m horrible at explaining

[little osprey]

Just kinda line it up with the bump in the golden fingers of connectivity on the module and on the motherboard

[upper thunder]

Yes

I’ve only ever built 1 pc but I work IT for the high school I’m attending

Ive been working there for a few months I’ve fixed like 50 or more laptops

And several desktops

[upper thunder]

Yes

Wait

That’s drawing wrong

Drawn*

[little osprey]

valid

[grave lantern]

any good australian graphics cards for $200 max?

[lyric thistle]

"golden fingers of connectivity" lmao

[little osprey]

I use the English language very well

[old charm]

is that the memory going in? lol

[little osprey]

yes

I am also an artist if you haven't noticed

[old charm]

I might have just gotten one that doesn't fit

it feels like no matter how much I push its gonna break

[little osprey]

did you match the DDR type

module to board

[old charm]

i don't even know what that means lol

[little osprey]

like

you buy DDR3 ram

for a DDR3 board

[old charm]

is that like equivalent to the year make of a car?

[viral ore]

not really

[little osprey]

it's just newer tech

and they shape it differently to make sure you don't screw it up

[terse kraken]

Anyone know any build the is powerful enough to show 3D models

[little osprey]

is this a joke or

[lyric thistle]

DDR kinda fresh doe 😳

[old charm]

it feels like i might have fudged out

[little osprey]

my crappy optiplex 780 used to do basic 3d modeling for roblox gfx

[viral ore]

👀

[little osprey]

@old charm send mobo and ddr pics 😳

[old charm]

it feels definitely like it's not supposed to fit. The ends are slanted kinda

[terse kraken]

I'm talking about advanced 3D models

[little osprey]

that really depends on how advanced and i'd recommend going for the roof of your budget

higher core and thread count should be your goal

and I'd recommend a Quadro of some sort or something foryour gpu

[terse kraken]

Powerful enough to build models like this

[little osprey]

oh dear

i'd go for like a threadripper 1

idk much about Xeons oops

processor bias pls dont bully

[little osprey]

Question

are you trying to put them in the PCIe slots

[viral ore]

ooh

hot

[little osprey]

because they should fitr

fit*

[old charm]

I was trying to put them in that row of 4

[little osprey]

DDR4 both ways

yeah you're right

here lemme make somethin

[terse kraken]

No full scales human size

[little osprey]

@old charm you need to make the sticker face the cpu

[old charm]

okay

[viral ore]

once you line up the notch on the module with the bump on the slot, one of the ends of the slot wont bend out. you need to push the module into the one slot end that doesnt move, make sure the other end is in the open position, then push down on both sides of the module at the top

[little osprey]

make sure the circled stuff is lined up

[old charm]

okay, gotcha

[little osprey]

"a picture can mean a thousand words" - your english teachers from elementary

and middle school

probably highschool too

heck it, community college

[lyric thistle]

bruh

that was a masterpiece why'd you delete it

[little osprey]

tthere

😳

[lyric thistle]

praise 🙏

[little osprey]

i am a god tier artist newegg hire me now

and holy heck it's 12.30 and i am yet to call my girl

I will see you dudes tomorrow

[lyric thistle]

do a cycle of press on dimm -> try to close clip -> repeat

oh

[little osprey]

oh dang

that would be fun

very time consuming but fun

[old charm]

i got one

the other one is being stubborn

okay got em

jeebus

[little osprey]

ok so now that you have that, i dont have justification to finish this

[old charm]

damn you went all out lol

[cursive wharf]

Didnt make the text also scale out

[little osprey]

no its supposed to be bad

that would require me typing it out before running the little angle thingy

god bless pdn

[viral ore]

pdn is epic

[little osprey]

ok but seriously, i was tempted to spend the hour to make something ugly in Blender and use it instead lmao

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GG7Jyk is this a good pc?

[old charm]

where do I find this piece?
https://youtu.be/qCPIEYfN_hc?t=242

[little osprey]

what piece

[viral ore]

@little osprey that motherboard is overkill

that cpu is locked

[little osprey]

ok ty

[old charm]

the "drie"

drive

[little osprey]

That's an M.2 drive

it's an SSD

[viral ore]

the gpu is overpriced

you should get something newer

like a 1660

[little osprey]

Wait you mean the MP500 right? That's the M.2 i'm talking about @old charm

my dude is actually buying a 1060

[old charm]

uhh

[little osprey]

the drive he's talking about where he puts it in and it looks really flat

[old charm]

I was reffering to the lttle strip looking thing he was putting in there

[little osprey]

Yeah

that's an M.2 SSD

just storage

[old charm]

i have one but its HUGE

[little osprey]

HDD?

[old charm]

its like a brick

[little osprey]

now is it good? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qnZ34n

is it like a SSHD, HHD, or just a Sata ssd

@little osprey you're being a little gun-ho, like calm down a wee bit and study the parts you're interested in and explore other options

the gtx 1060 is overpriced and outdated now

[old charm]

i think the brick thing is the HDD

[little osprey]

Its just for fun

[old charm]

imma see if i can find it

[little osprey]

i am new to pc stuff

[old charm]

nevermind i found it

[little osprey]

if you're new, you might want your first build to be semi less valuable just to ensure you have some experience before handling a $400 processor, but that's just my opinion if you're building it yourself

[cursive wharf]

@little osprey I mean, 3600 is basically a 8700k but $150 cheaper, and 1060 6GB is overpriced given compitition

[little osprey]

Okay ty

[open oriole]

yo

Im in pcpartpicker

and I can't find the option to add a custom part anymore :/

anyone know bout this?

[cursive wharf]

log in with an account

[open oriole]

did

[cursive wharf]

or use desktop site. Dont think mobile has it

[open oriole]

yeah

It's not there lols

[cursive wharf]

clear cache/cookies?

[open oriole]

ah okay

didn't work

it's usually at the bottom, right? I see a custom part i added a couple days ago, but the custom option has disappeared completely :/

[cursive wharf]

Ive had that happen before. Was on mobile tho

maybe switch browsers?

That's about all I can suggest

[amber grove]

I spoke to support team with regards to assembled PC for my father, he needs windows7 32 bit pc. All i need is assistance with compatibility of choosing right intel processor in i5 or i7 and supporting mother board

[cursive wharf]

or switch aspect ratios. pcpp likes to detect phone by aspect ratio now. So even on a desktop with a portrait screen it'd show mobile layout

[grave lantern]

does anybody want a widescreen monitor for under $200 Au?

ill put link below

https://www.mwave.com.au/product/lg-25um58p-25-ultrawide-full-hd-amd-freesync-ips-gaming-monitor-ab91591?gclid=CjwKCAiAuK3vBRBOEiwA1IMhuhwKVgRMLX5tjpa9eJafBWmczis5Q51o9K6rMTWJexgMuMpJNDu9uRoC26oQAvD_BwE

[fluid imp]

So for an ultra-wide of that size they just shrink vertically and stretch horizontally by like, a lot? oof

[dry tinsel]

$139.99 USD

and yeah that's very small for an ultrawide

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078GSH1LV/ this is twice as much but 34" which is probably the minimum for an ultrawide

also has freesync and probably g-sync compatible

has a diagonal measurement of 34" so it will have a width of 31.3" and a height of 13.4" lol come on

you've gotta get the big long boyes to get real size out of it

[random moon]

Hello everyone

I'm new here

I'm experiencing crashes with my PC

And they should be happening

What can I do about it?

[fluid imp]

is this a fresh new build? what are your temps looking like at the moment

[brave surge]

@old charm @little osprey get an air cooler, AIOs are wastes of money

[crystal pagoda]

Could be a good vertical monitor for livestream comments?

[eager chasm]

yes

[fluid imp]

hey now, I think for most people an AIO is aesthetics-oriented. you're paying so you don't have a big metal block right dead center on your PC lol, plus much easier to install than something like a darkrock pro and easy way to get low temps

[little osprey]

there's also ram clearance

an aio pump doesn't interfere with tall memory the way some heatsinks can

plus the radiator can be mounted wherever it will fit, which makes it more ergonomic overall

[fluid imp]

^^ agree x100, only something like a 480mm radiator RGB pump would be a waste of money, 240mm is usually the cap for price to performance

[scarlet inlet]

Heya, I'm planning a ryzen 5 2600 build. I'm on the fence for my gpu, a gtx 1660 super fits in my budget easily and an rtx will be a bit of a stretch, I'm wondering if it's worth the extra money for the rtx? And would the rtx be too much for my ryzen 5 2600?

[fluid imp]

are you doing 1080p or 1440p? and what's the price difference in your country?

[scarlet inlet]

the 1660s is 255€, the rtx is 355€, and 1080p 144Hz

But I'd also like it to be quite future proof

[fluid imp]

What does your used-hardware market look like? because at those prices definitely not worth it to get rtx especially if you're doing 1080p 144hz

i think the 1660Super would fit your needs just fine actually, what games are you looking to play?

[scarlet inlet]

Not sure about that, but I'm not really interested in used hardware

No high end games really, I normally play minecraft, which I plan on streaming, then some gta etc.

But no tomb raider or anything like that

[fluid imp]

I mean, you definitely won't hit 144hz on GTA unless you turn down your settings to where it looks pretty bad especially at 1080p, but for minecraft/overwatch/csgo you should be doing 144hz High/Ultra settings easy

ignoring the used market, a hundred euros would be silly to spend for like 10-15 fps at most

[scarlet inlet]

Well, I guess my decision is made then 😄 thanks!

[fluid imp]

np and good luck on your new build! post pics to the build-pics channel lol

[scarlet inlet]

There is not really a used hardware market here in Belgium I think

lol of course!

[fluid imp]

yeah it's a hit or miss, i understand

[scarlet inlet]

Yea...

[sinful hollow]

intel core i7 or ryzen 7?

[fluid imp]

what use-case scenario and generation?

[sinful hollow]

Gaming and recording. gen 2 or 3

[fluid imp]

definitely ryzen if you're recording

[sinful hollow]

oka

y

cheers

[fluid imp]

stay away from ryzen 7 1st gen unless it's a really good deal lol

[sinful hollow]

so i should get gen 2 or 3

[vale dome]

is an asus 1070 strix for 199 pounds a good deal?

rog

[sudden turret]

not sure what that is in USD.

[hearty moss]

Hey, I got a bunch of cash that I wanna spend on an upgrade for my machine. I have an i5 7600k @4.9ghz + GTX 1060 6g.

I'm doing gaming + streaming. I'm also looking into Blender/Unreal Engine for productivity. For my upgrade budget, I'm looking to get either:

RTX 2060 or r5 3600/r7 2700x. I got a great deal on a MSI Gaming Pro Carbon x470 motherboard, so with the r7, I'd just pay around 300 bucks for everything. Which one would you choose in my case? I'm looking to upgrade either one in time anyways, just not both at the same time.

[sudden turret]

3600/2060

[hearty moss]

So cpu first, then GPU?

[sudden turret]

it's up to you, if you're still using the i5, you could get the 2060(super I hope) and be good.

[hearty moss]

Why the super?

[sudden turret]

it's the refreshed version of it

moar cuda

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2060S-Super-vs-Nvidia-RTX-2060/4049vs4034

[hearty moss]

Sure, but do I need it, if I play in 1080p?

[sudden turret]

well using Blender/Unreal Engine .. isn't that more gpu dependent?

[hearty moss]

Idk, I'm still trying to wrap my head around that. It can use both, but not in all use cases.

[little osprey]

Hey

[old charm]

@brave surge what do you mean?

[little osprey]

Would an i5 8400 bottleneck an RTX 2070s/2080s/ti?

[sudden turret]

https://www.gpucheck.com/gpu/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2070/intel-core-i5-8400-2-80ghz/

[little osprey]

Never knew about that site, thanks @sudden turret!

[brave surge]

@old charm I don’t know if you were the dude that asked about his config, i might have accidentally pinged you, if not i meant that All in one liquid coolers are generally not worth it

@scarlet inlet i would recommend going for the 2060/2060s. I’m personally running 2060 MSI VENTUS with a r5 2600 at 1080p and it’s great. If you’re gonna use the pc for years to come, it would really help to spend some extra money on the newer hardware. (Btw the ventus model has amazing cooling and i would recommend it regardless of the gpu you have, it is available for the 16th gen of nvidia cards)

[little osprey]

Is there a way to buy just Noctua fans? I am working on a PC build and don't feel pushed to get RGB stuff and hear that Noctua has really efficient and good fans

[dry tinsel]

yes, just buy noctua fans

they come in the classic beige and brown, or in black

or in a cost-reduced grey version

the latter not recommended as it has no noise dampening material

i think there's also an upscale black with brown corners version

though that may have been phased out with the all black, which is their premium product

now it is, anyway

[little osprey]

Color isn't a thing I care about in a PC

Performance is my main goal

[dry tinsel]

probably buy beige/brown then, that's the cheapest of the best quality noctua fans i think

i want noctua fans in my case eventually

fractal's fans are really good but noctua's are better

it used to be a sort of mark of quality for your PC to have the beige ones

me personally? don't even have a side window

my cable management isn't spectacular anyway

it's kind of okay but not something that's visually appealing enough to show off

it's more like "yeah this isn't disrupting airflow and i'm okay with this"

[eager chasm]

i really don't care about what case I use as long as it has passable airflow 🙂

[dusk atlas]

Hello im planning to build a gaming pc,i already got a geforce 1070, im open for suggestion and things to change

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core 12-Thread
GIGABYTE GA-B450 135PRO MOTHERBOARD
AORUS 16GB 2X8GB MEMORY 3200MHZ DDR4 RGB
Corsair 650watts PSU, RM, RM650
Aorus C200G TG, atx, 2x120mm
1tb Crucial MX500 SSD 2.5 sata

[eager chasm]

Looks good

Personally I like putting a few extra cheap fans in the case

A bit more push-pull to move a bit more air

But it's not super needed

Just make sure the board is Ryzen 3000 ready

[little osprey]

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rtx-super-compute&num=6

[cursive wharf]

@sudden turret blender doesnt use GPU as heavily due to low VRAM. You can do mixed renders of CPU and GPU. But generally afaik most people do CPU

[humble lava]

Hi I need help picking out parts for my water cooling pc. I’m going with AMD and hard line tubing with an ATX motherboard

[cursive wharf]

Unreal engine likes CPU for baking shadows. GPU might be implemented for doing that as well now but idk. Haven't looked in a while

[eager chasm]

:o good luck with your custom loop

[cursive wharf]

@humble lava look at Bykski or Barrow as you don't have to overpay with them. This kit is soft tubing but to give an example of cost a full loop with cpu, GPU, and 360mm rad is $230

[eager chasm]

If it's your first loop you might wanna make a practice loop that's not in a computer, cause screwing up can be expensive if it's on the components

[cursive wharf]

Just don't turn the PC on when testing the loop tho

[little osprey]

Corsair has an excellent configurator on their website.

[humble lava]

I have made a custom loop before just don’t know what I want for my next build

[eager chasm]

Ah ok XD

Carry on

[little osprey]

We specialize in telling people what they want 🙂

[humble lava]

The main game I want to play is gta and R6S

[eager chasm]

Anyone have an opinion on 120mm mesh grills you screw onto your fans if your case doesn't come with filters?

[cursive wharf]

Probably get some real large mesh thing and cut it up. Don't think individual ones will be properly priced

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/p/0MH-000M-00024?Description=compressor&cm_re=compressor-_-0MH-000M-00024-_-Product

[half scroll]

Is corsair masterliquid 240L good for r7 3700x?

[eager chasm]

Kinda already installed individual fan grills XD

Just wondering if anyone else has used them and what they think to be more exact

[cursive wharf]

Thought you were looking to buy some. But now that my brain has read it properly, that shouldnt be bad

Provided they aren't too fine or anything

[little osprey]

A filter in front of the fan without a shroud will be noisy

[sudden turret]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-clap-clapping-agree-approved-gif-13361944

[eager chasm]

🤔 it isn't though

[sudden turret]

@strong delta don't

[eager chasm]

Why would a hard mesh filter be noisy?

[sudden turret]

super close to the fan blafes

blades*

will create noise

[eager chasm]

The grill is raised away from the fans a bit

The seem to be well constructed

[little osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/mixer-ninja-paetriot-shroud-haha-gif-15543573

[silent tundra]

would pairing a e5-1620 with an rx570 run well in light vr titles such as beat saber and superhot vr?

[little osprey]

Why does it delete your text if you gif after

[eager chasm]

Is that a CPU?

[cursive wharf]

Which VR headset tho?

[silent tundra]

Samsung Odyssey plus

[cursive wharf]

Don't know the res off the top of my head for that one

I'd assume It'd be okay for those titles

[eager chasm]

Do you already have the parts? Run steam VR performance test

[silent tundra]

I'm building a budget vr pc, and I'm using a dell precision t3600 and an rx570

the precision has an e5-1620

I'm thinking I'm just gonna go with that layout

unless there's a processor that would be better within a tight budget

[eager chasm]

Like how tight?

Cause old Xeon systems are super cheap

Like insanely cheap

[cursive wharf]

I mean the 1620 is a xeon

[eager chasm]

Is it? XD

Lol

[silent tundra]

300 for the entire build

[eager chasm]

Thats not too bad then

The PSU might be the one hang up

[silent tundra]

so should I go with the 1620?

[eager chasm]

If you are on a tight budget it's a viable option

The PSU might not have an extra PCIe connector

[little osprey]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermicro-X8DTI-F-Motherboard-2x-Intel-4-Cores-2-4Ghz-CPU-16GB-RAM-I-O-Shield/352855555961

[silent tundra]

what's this

[eager chasm]

PSU upgrades are almost always a thing you need with old systems, unless you wanna go into janky power adaptors (don't)

[silent tundra]

I have some extra money to throw at a psu

I got a good deal on an rx570

[eager chasm]

Nice

[silent tundra]

what power supply should I look into

[eager chasm]

A 400-450 should work

[cursive wharf]

Corsair CX I find is generally the cheapest decent PSU

[silent tundra]

wattage

[little osprey]

Tell us more about your intentions with this build

[eager chasm]

Budget VR

[little osprey]

TBh - i'm in the market for a similar board, shopping anyway haha

[silent tundra]

budget vr and Minecraft

[little osprey]

What lead you to old /deprecated xeon hardware

[eager chasm]

Oh man minecraft, that needs a super beefy computer! Lol

[silent tundra]

I saw a video where a guy made a budget vr pc for 300 with a dell precision t3600 and a 980

[eager chasm]

Many YouTubers have gone with old Xeon builds and put GPUs in then CoughLinusScrapyardWarscough

That show really is interesting to see how to get super budget builds done

[teal bison]

Just watched the season 8 finale lol

[eager chasm]

Season 8 was a let down

[teal bison]

how so?

[eager chasm]

I liked the season without internet, THAT was far more interesting

This one was so rapid fire and no super interesting build choices

[teal bison]

ya true

[carmine gale]

hey everyone, im trying to build my first pc this christmas and I just wanted to get some help with what parts i should put into it. I currently have this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LhWxLJ chosen but I dont know if theres better options

[limpid merlin]

Hyper 212 is kinda overpriced

And idk about the ram, seems expensive for only 3000mhz

[mild ridge]

Sup guys :) I am on the quest of building once again a gaming rig for myself

[cursive wharf]

Cooler, ram, mobo, SSD, are all overpriced. PSU isn't that great, and same with case. @carmine gale

[mild ridge]

And now I have this huge doubt about 3950x vs i9 9900K(S)

[cursive wharf]

3700x for gaming

3950x for workstation

[mild ridge]

Does 3950x lose in anything to 3700x in gaming?

It will be mainly gaming, but I will also use it to work sometimes

[cursive wharf]

No real reason to spend $700 on a CPU if a $300 CPU will do the same

[limpid merlin]

Go 3700x and put the extra money on gpu

[cursive wharf]

^

[mild ridge]

GPU will be 2080TI already

[limpid merlin]

Still go 3700x

You'll recoup some money

[mild ridge]

What about i9?

[cursive wharf]

Budget more on the rest of system for a SLIed 2080Ti or something for bragging rights

[limpid merlin]

If you're gonna go i9 I'd say chose 3950 instead

[cursive wharf]

9900k gets about 2% more gaming perf over 3700x

For like $250 more

[limpid merlin]

But if its between 3700x and 3950x I'd say 3700x

[eager chasm]

Gonna have fun building 2 systems next weekend now that all my parts are here, a case swap and building in the old case 🙂

both Ryzen 7 😄

[little osprey]

lol, 2%?

[carmine gale]

alright thanks a lot @cursive wharf, do you have any recomendations for ram

[eager chasm]

5% is more accurate

😉

but still it's only a handful of frames

blind taste test and you can't tell the difference

[limpid merlin]

Just go on pcpp and sort by 3600 and cheapest, itll probably be a gskill set @carmine gale

[mild ridge]

Every benchmark I saw put i9 in the lead

[limpid merlin]

Yes, i9 still leads by a small margin in gaming. But gets crushed in any kind of multithreaded/workstation tasks

[cursive wharf]

Also for 3600 make sure it's cl16

[little osprey]

You're thinking 3900x vs 9900k for multi

[cursive wharf]

Don't waste money on 3600 cl18 or something

[little osprey]

Except for something like gcc10

[eager chasm]

unless you are going for a KS skew i9, you won't be able to tell the difference in a blind comparison

[limpid merlin]

Hes got a 2700x @cursive wharf

[mild ridge]

@eager chasm KS was my target

[cursive wharf]

Well then, no real reason for 3600 I guess

[eager chasm]

ah then there is somewhat noticeable difference

[mild ridge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fjwvjp Here is what I was thinking

[eager chasm]

still gets stomped in anything other than gaming

[cursive wharf]

@carmine gale that a gaming build?

[eager chasm]

1 penny off from being 4444.44... SKILL

[little osprey]

Ram is ok - but only if you're fine with a bit of extra $$ for that RGB and aren't interested in memory oc

[eager chasm]

lol

[carmine gale]

im planning on using it for mid range games, dont have too much money though, my budget is like 1200 CAD

[mild ridge]

Only downside for me in this build is the fact that Z390 don't have ger4 pcie

[cursive wharf]

Get custom with how expensive that GPU is

[little osprey]

Board is great, Master is more OC feature friendly though.

[elfin dagger]

@mild ridge only 1tb of storage?

[cursive wharf]

$500 extra on the GPU

Also 970 Evo is kinda meh

[eager chasm]

only things that take advantage of gen 4 PCIe currently are over engineered NVMe SSDs

[mild ridge]

@little osprey Yeh, on the buying cart I already changed it to Master

[little osprey]

Would not be my choice of 2080 ti - but I'm assuming that was an aesthetic choice

[mild ridge]

@cursive wharf Funny think is that here in the Netherlands that Card is same price as the others

@little osprey exactly

[little osprey]

A very important question is whether or not / how much overclocking capability / featureset do you want to pay premiums for

[mild ridge]

@cursive wharf what m2 would u recomend on this build?

[loud apex]

Should I get a 2080 from a dark alley

only 500

[little osprey]

Also - definitely get 4x8 vs 2 x 16 on that board, or any asus or GB z390

Or 2x8

[cursive wharf]

@carmine gale was talking to snow, but by custom I meant custom loop. The GPU was a 2080Ti for $1500 USD, about $500 USD overpriced. Which can easily allow for a full custom water cooling loop

[eager chasm]

I use a mushkin Pilot NVMe... but that's cause it was the budget option XD

[carmine gale]

oh my bad lol.

[cursive wharf]

@mild ridge Sabrent Rocket

[little osprey]

$1000 for a nice 2080 ti is losing out on too much to save $100 for a guaranteed A chip.

[cursive wharf]

A chip dead tho

[little osprey]

If you 100% know it's a post (no more binning) chip, then sure

[mild ridge]

@little osprey yeh, did that change on Cart as well, 4x8GB will be

[cursive wharf]

They discontinued that a while back

Only A chips are from inventory

[little osprey]

And yet people haven't found a reliable way to predict what arrives i nthe box

If so, plase tellme and I'll let the 2080 ti discord know lol

[cursive wharf]

It's been probably about 4 - 5 months tho

[carmine gale]

what motherboard would you reccomend? I'm trying to make the system fairly upgradable for the future

[cursive wharf]

Hasn't it? Should be long enough I'd think for inventory of b chip to die off

[mild ridge]

@cursive wharf not available here in EU

[little osprey]

Here's a better argument - power limit

[loud apex]

Who else is waiting for Nzxt to give them a free pc

[little osprey]

Or dual bios (on ftw3 / strix), better cooling, XOC bios native support, etc

There was never a b chip haha

[cursive wharf]

Eh, at the point of before I knew it was the same price where snow lives I was thinking custom with basic 2080Ti instead of an overpriced one
As for A chips, I couldn't remember the lower bin one

So I just called it b chip

[little osprey]

The use case for (very) high end build + el cheapo 2080 ti is only for the shunt modders or bios flash crowd.

[cursive wharf]

Been like a year since I heard the lower bin revision

[little osprey]

Nothing wrong with cheap, rather, just not the traditionally weak models

[cursive wharf]

But it's not like it has to be the cheapest card, just thinking of an okay one that isn't / wasn't super expensive. I mean a $1250 one would be fine as that allows room for a cheap custom loop (if this card given were actually 1500 and such)

[little osprey]

I thought we covered that

[cursive wharf]

Yeah I know

[mild ridge]

Any other sugestion? I thought about getting a Raid 0 SSD pair for SO/Files and leave the games on the M2

[little osprey]

Don't bother with raid anything.

[eager chasm]

not even matching Raid Edition drives? 😉

[cursive wharf]

Not worth it on NVMes for a gaming build

[little osprey]

Personally I'd go for a 970 pro boot since $120 gets 512GB new on ebay - but up to you there

[eager chasm]

I love me some WD Raid Editions, they are great budget HDDs when on sale

[mild ridge]

145 EUR 970 PRO

And leave 970 EVO for games?

[cursive wharf]

Evo is kinda meh

[little osprey]

for 512? That's very steep, but they basically last forever and it's nice for boot.

[cursive wharf]

No real reason as many drives are on par with the Evo and Evo Plus

[mild ridge]

Cool... Will add it to the build...

@cursive wharf Evo Plus is gen4, right?

[little osprey]

Next step up is something like a 900p 280GB for 220 or a $500 for a 905p u.2 480GB

[cursive wharf]

@mild ridge no, still gen3

[little osprey]

That's outdated, but sure

[cursive wharf]

Basic reference cuz not all drives are available in his place

[eager chasm]

Pilot in in the 3rd tier, nice 😄

love my pilot

[mild ridge]

970 PRO 512 + 970 EVO PLUS 1024?

[cursive wharf]

Adata sx8200 Pro around in your place?

[mild ridge]

Yes

And quite cheap

[eager chasm]

it's weird how depending on when and where you buy them Raid Edition HDDs can either be the most expensive HDDs ever, or the Cheapest...

[cursive wharf]

Get that over the Evo plus

[mild ridge]

that save me 90 Euros 😄

Keep 970 PRO for SO? Or change as well?

[cursive wharf]

Evo and Evo Plus are just a waste of money tbh. But the Pro doesn't have any real competitors that I know of

[mild ridge]

Noted

out of the reviews I have watched I can't see a lot of value in SLI 2080TIs right now, not going for 4k gaming, does anyone has a good argument to change my mind?

[cursive wharf]

Uhhhh. Bragging rights?

But no real reason tho, tbh

[mild ridge]

At first I was thinking about getting that new 38inch monitor from LG, that could benefit from SLI2080TI (I think)... but then that would overkill my budget 😄

[little osprey]

@median sail You there?

[fleet talon]

So, when I installed my h115i pro, I used the paste that was pre-applied. I took it off this weekend to swap motherboards and noticed that the paste didn't spread to the corners of the CPU... Is that normal for pre-applied paste? Seems there'd be bad heat transfer for a lot of the lid

[icy plume]

Mrs obama i figured it out

I wanna get an rtx 2070 pc with a ryzen 7 1700 and then upgrade to a ryzen 7 2700 later on

[shut spoke]

get a ryzen 5 3600

[viral ore]

@fleet talon the corners of the ihs are irrelevant, the cpu die is in the middle

thats where the heat transfers the most

[icy plume]

i'm trying to find an 8-core to go with an rtx 2070 if anything

[viral ore]

you dont need an 8 core

[fleet talon]

Mmm. Still seems like it's help to have the paste on the whole ihs, as there'd still be some heat to transfer away. But I see the point

[shut spoke]

yes but a ryzen 3600 is better than 2700x and 2700

[viral ore]

if you can get 6 much more powerful cores, games will run better

[icy plume]

fair

[viral ore]

most games really only utilize one or two cores for rendering

[icy plume]

True because most games don't use parallel computing, so even on multi-core they're on an individual basis

[shut spoke]

i have a 1500x 4 core

[viral ore]

so those one or two cores are whats going to bottleneck your gpu

[fleet talon]

Would you still recommend a 3900x if it's in someone's budget? I know it has more cores than a typical user would need, but not sure if it'd still be recommended

[latent bronze]

depends on what you plan on using it for

[shut spoke]

b350 motherboard + ryzen 9 3950x = 💥

[icy plume]

biggest problem is that i wanna get an rtx 2070 but all the deals i can find either have a bad processor or only 8 gigs of ram

[fleet talon]

Gaming, model making, some streaming, coding here and there

[icy plume]

and the budget caps at 1100

[shut spoke]

you can upgrade your ram later

[icy plume]

fair

[latent bronze]

You can actually take it down a notch then and go for a Ryzen 7

@fleet talon

[icy plume]

do the ram sticks need to be the same model or does it not matter

[shut spoke]

same speed and model i think

[latent bronze]

You can mix but not really recommended

[patent steppe]

I am going to buy pc parts

For my budget build

[icy plume]

so i would have to either buy a new memory kit or find the exact model to buy another 8 gigs

[latent bronze]

The only problem though with mixing is you would be using the default speed the motherboard can do

@icy plume is it a pre built you're looking at

[icy plume]

yes

[shut spoke]

i have 2 diffrent ram sticks

[latent bronze]

buy a new kit then

[shut spoke]

ye

im going to

[icy plume]

my options are one with a ryzen 7 2700 and an rtx 2070 but only 8 gigs of ram, or 16 gigs and rtx 2070, but a ryzen 7 1700

[latent bronze]

Team Group is also great for both Intel and AMD

1700 is the same performance as my 2600

[icy plume]

i suppose the cheaper option is to go with not enough ram and upgrade later

[shut spoke]

what is cheaper

1700?

[icy plume]

i'll link the options

[shut spoke]

ok

[latent bronze]

2700 is the same performance as the 3600 pretty much

[icy plume]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/2070-NVIDIA-Legacy-Windows-WiFi-GeForce-Mini-DDR4-RTX-16GB-Computer-8-Core-Home-10-Ryzen-AC-8GB-64-bit-500G-SSD-1700-GHz-PC-Desktop-3-0-7-SkyTech-Gam/540358419?athcpid=540358419&athpgid=athenaItemPage&athcgid=null&athznid=PWVAV&athieid=v0&athstid=CS020&athguid=72cdd01b-686-16ebdc169e94ee&athancid=null&athena=true

[mild ridge]

@icy plume custom build is not an option for you?

[shut spoke]

3600 is much more powerful

[icy plume]

https://www.newegg.com/p/1VK-005B-000H9\

[latent bronze]

why are you buying it at walmart?

[icy plume]

because it's at walmart

and not newegg

believe me i wanna find a deal on newegg but hooboy

[vale dome]

walmart

[little osprey]

Get a 3600

[shut spoke]

3600 is like 1,5-2x better than the 2700

[icy plume]

i could try custom building but i really know nothing about motherboards, installing windows, and actually putting together a pc

all in all, there's no guarantee that what i'd build would either run, or stay in one piece

[fleet talon]

Legos

[latent bronze]

@icy plume You could always go for this as well https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883227922

[fleet talon]

Literally legos

[shut spoke]

build yourself one so you can enjoy building and playing on it

[mild ridge]

@icy plume that would give you more for the same budget, and it's not that hard, you have youtube and discord to help you out

[icy plume]

i suppose that a 2060 super and 2070 are gonna give about the same performance except for ray tracing

[shut spoke]

they are almoast same so buy that one

[mild ridge]

The hardest part about building one yourself is to pick the right parts, assembling it is quite easy to be honest, unless you go for custom loops, which is not your case

[shut spoke]

its on sale

[latent bronze]

The other thing is as well what would be cheaper as well then getting new memory is you can buy for less a 1TB hard drive for the system for your games

Most of the time as well building would tend to cost a little less but there are people out there that just wants to plug and play right away

and windows would already be installed

[icy plume]

i already have a 4 TB external drive, USB 3.0

[fleet talon]

I wish Newegg had a PC building section that worked similar to PCPP

[latent bronze]

usually best to have an extra internal than external for games

[shut spoke]

if you have 50 bucks more get this https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-gl10dh-nh764/p/N82E16883221574

1149

[icy plume]

damn, budget caps at 1100 but i'll see what the folks can do

[shut spoke]

if you can get that money i would buy it bc its really good

[latent bronze]

@shut spoke first review for that https://i.gyazo.com/19c83835f685f70c5a1eaeea480f70c5.png

already a red flag

[shut spoke]

he can upgrade the case

later

[fleet talon]

How upgradable are these prebuilds? My first gaming desktop was a prebuild but a proprietary nightmare

[icy plume]

i'm not sure i can just upgrade the case

[latent bronze]

Ya but why upgrade the case later when you want to play with it now

[icy plume]

^

[latent bronze]

if something is a heat magnet you don't really buy it

[icy plume]

if you didn't notice, i'm a bit of a computer dunce

[latent bronze]

Oh i noticed

[icy plume]

good

[latent bronze]

This is why i suggested what i suggested

[icy plume]

noted

brb gonna send this to the folks

[latent bronze]

When looking for a pre built you don't only want the best parts but you want to have great airflow

if you have amazing parts but bad airflow that already would make people regret buying it

[icy plume]

yeah

[shut spoke]

i suggest the ryzen 7 3700x for u @icy plume

if you have the money

[icy plume]

can't afford it

[latent bronze]

with bad airflow i wouldn't

[icy plume]

and the one from earlier doesn't have good airflow

if i could get one for the same pricepoint with better airflow, maybe

[latent bronze]

The Asus system looks cool and all with a nice 3700X but if there is people complaining how it has bad airflow and the system gets hot most of the time it is not really worth buying since it does cost more later on buying a new case

[icy plume]

exactly

[latent bronze]

@shut spoke here is something to point out as well is the board which you can see here https://i.gyazo.com/e77a17b7ef3bab42f46ef43da0d95e48.png

it is one of their cheapest model with only 2 memory slots

Really you would want something with 4 memory slots cause when games starts recommending 32gb of memory you can put inside 2 more 8gb sticks

well instead of buying 2 new 16gb sticks

[faint steeple]

wondering if cyberpunk will be one of the first to recommend 32gb

every E3 so far their system has had that much

[latent bronze]

I believe the new star wars game recommends 32gb

[open oriole]

Wtf

[latent bronze]

Oh ya 32gb for 4K

[open oriole]

Ohhh

[latent bronze]

1080p is still 16gb

[open oriole]

Apparently Newegg removed the custom part feature for a bit

[shut spoke]

remove the side panel on the 3700x

[open oriole]

Build is on halt

[latent bronze]

https://i.gyazo.com/bf0e8d97ad40ce2b4ccfdb1bd3c3ea5f.png lol

k4f you keep trying to push for that system don't you

[shut spoke]

na

[latent bronze]

It is not a good system and there is a chance removing the side panel won't help

to some systems i have seen it getting hotter with it off

[shut spoke]

lol

[icy plume]

so my best bet is ryzen 5 3600 and an rtx 2060S

agreed?

[latent bronze]

Ryzen 5 3600 performance is pretty much like the Ryzen 7 2700

[icy plume]

alright

and if i turn out to get the one with a 2700 and 8 gigs of ram, i can just upgrade ram (i'm asking for a desktop as a present)

and if i get the one with a 1700, i can upgrade the processor

[latent bronze]

upgrading the processor would cost more in the long run

[icy plume]

yes but i've played my cards already and it's out of my control

[latent bronze]

the 3600 would be the most up to date on processors

[icy plume]

indeed

but overall any of the three options will last a while with some minor tweaks

[latent bronze]

The system with the 2700 is good but like i said earlier you would most likely need to change out the memory for a brand new kit

[icy plume]

yeah

[latent bronze]

and making sure it is 3200MHz memory

[icy plume]

true

[latent bronze]

Zen+ loves faster memory but can only rally support 3200MHz while the Zen2 processors can go higher which most people tends to recommend for that 3600MHz

[icy plume]

what

[latent bronze]

Zen+ is the 2000 series like the 2700 and Zen2 is the 3000 series like the 3600

Zen+ is like the fix for Zen

[icy plume]

ah

[little osprey]

Hello

[sudden turret]

ayyye!

[little osprey]

It that worth getting

[narrow rose]

whats the gpu?

[sudden turret]

get 3,600mhz at least

if you're going 3700x

[wooden vortex]

ryzen likes fast ram

[sudden turret]

not saying it wont run on what you have, but 3,600 is the sweet spot

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BcgZJb

That

[sudden turret]

oh

thats different

lol

[little osprey]

U can edit it then send back and I’ll buy it

Lol

[narrow rose]

I like that one way better

[little osprey]

Please

[latent bronze]

@little osprey from your image you put the wrong board

[little osprey]

Ik

[latent bronze]

Box how did you not catch onto that

[little osprey]

I couldn’t find the other one

[sudden turret]

he's going with the partpicker build

I believe?

[narrow rose]

maybe spring for some 3200 RAM on that one but other than that you could go cheaper on the motherboard I like that system though

[coarse coral]

[latent bronze]

Would cost less to go with a 3700X instead of a 9700K

[icy plume]

ecks

[sudden turret]

maybe they want intel

🙂

[latent bronze]

Yes?

[icy plume]

since i'm going with a ryzen processor, is this good for ram replacement https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232740?item=N82E16820232740&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-memory+(desktop+memory)-_-N82E16820232740&gclid=CjwKCAiA27LvBRB0EiwAPc8XWVD6NCQe7f9bfroawU1eSmXeetXz6suq-NOJ_bT4Cxgu8icPUSxcARoCZhUQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

[sudden turret]

yes

shove that in ramm slot

[icy plume]

yes

[sudden turret]

goodluck

[icy plume]

there you go

[latent bronze]

which Ryzen?

[narrow rose]

we dont put cases in ram slots 🤔

[sudden turret]

32gb ram for 100bucks

what a time to be alive

[icy plume]

3600 or 2700

[narrow rose]

3600...?

[latent bronze]

The only thing i don't like about the memory is the timings

Also if you go for the 2700 build would be best to look for 3200MHz memory

[little osprey]

@latent bronze could u build me a pc from pcpartpicker because I don’t really understand this is my first pc

?

[narrow rose]

whats your budget?

[latent bronze]

I am a little lazy today

[little osprey]

1.7k

[wooden vortex]

this is what i bought last week (roughly) https://pcpartpicker.com/user/BigBillHells/saved/#view=FFvgJx

[narrow rose]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BcgZJb Ta dah!!!

your list was fine

[icy plume]

so 3600 ram for a 3600 ryzen, 3200 ram for 2700 ryzen

and what timings should i look for

[latent bronze]

3600MHz memory for 3000 series and 3200MHz for 2000 series

[icy plume]

alright

[latent bronze]

@narrow rose Good chance that is a 1800$ build because there is no price on the PSU

[fleet talon]

Has anyone here used the DRAM Calc for Ryzen? Is it actually fairly accurate?

[cursive wharf]

@little osprey Or just get this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gzZygJ

[cursive wharf]

standard warning from b450 chipset potentially not supported Zen2

but it's a max series mobo which supports Zen2

[little osprey]

Ight

[latent bronze]

Could cut the cost and downgrade to a 2080 Super

@cursive wharf

[cursive wharf]

Eh, I went with the best you could do, 2080S to 2080Ti isnt super amazing upgrade, but it's better than 3600 to 9700k

[narrow rose]

way better upgrade

[latent bronze]

ya but keeping it close to his 1700$ budget you know

[cursive wharf]

I did tho

$60 over $1700 isnt much

[latent bronze]

ya but does he even have that extra 62$

[narrow rose]

You can find $62 to go from a 2080 to 2080ti LOL

[latent bronze]

That is why a lot of people especially tech tubers will do like a 500$ build and be like a dollar or 2 over

[cursive wharf]

it's an extra $40 as well as he already commited to $1720

Given $40 isnt much with the amount of budget, I assume he has or it can wait a week or two till next paycheck

[foggy hazel]

IF you want to get pedantic about it, just cut the case fan and the cpu cooler.

[cursive wharf]

Can cut costs down with no NVMe, no modular PSU, no CPU cooler

more of the nice to haves

[foggy hazel]

and remove the standard 2.5

[latent bronze]

Well if he is even an adult and not part time worker

[cursive wharf]

Well if it's his money and got it with a part time, he should be able to make that amount in the next pay check

[narrow rose]

but if the CPU cooler doesnt have rgb....

[cursive wharf]

Paint it with red/green/blue paint

[latent bronze]

It has a blue LED light

[edgy leaf]

@little osprey the thing to watch out for in your friend's pc (other than the dust which is yikes) would be the hose for the AIO. It looks like it's touching the backplate of the GPU and that can be bad for both pieces long-term health. Also, the cable managing is decent, but could be better, particularly the 8-pin and 6-pin connected to the GPU.

[little osprey]

I find it kind of funny that Brian, from Tech Yes City on YT, is fully supportive of me building a ridiculous PC to commemorate my divorce

Thank you

[indigo crow]

Another question inbound i7 9700k with the 5700 xt or 2070 super

[viral ore]

which one is cheaper

which one looks cooler to you

they perform so similarly it doesnt matter

[narrow rose]

unless you want RTX it would be better to go 5700xt to save money

[calm goblet]

So uh, I was originally going to get the apex 7 from steelseries, but I dont know as much about the ins and outs of the keyboards like I do components. Is it a good board or should I go with something else

[narrow rose]

it looks like a good keyboard with cherry switches so I dont see any problems with it. I really like my G910 and its quite a bit cheaper... but everyone has their own preferences when it comes to keyboards

[little osprey]

We still haven't setled the docdizzle thing? lol

[icy plume]

final decision, should i go for an rtx 2070 or 2060S for 1100

like an overall build

[rocky surge]

2060

[icy plume]

alright

[jaunty nacelle]

do u have a pcpp link

[high aurora]

i want the corsair i-160

[old charm]

gluing that big ass silver block directly to my cpu seems like a nonsensical step, but that's apparently what I am about to do

[iron ferry]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ is this good, or am i able to make it better without spending more

[deep skiff]

copy the link thats right above the cpu, the url doesn't show anything @iron ferry

[iron ferry]

oh my bad

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QHBn6R

[deep skiff]

looks good, but i'd check somewhere like r/buildapcsales for maybe a 1080p 144hz monitor on sale since the 1660S can pusher higher than 60fps high/ultra

[iron ferry]

to be honest i dont care much for high refresh rate

and its not a 1660s

[deep skiff]

yeah its a 1660 S(super), which is pretty close to 1660 ti levels

but if you're fine with the monitor, then its a solid build

[iron ferry]

ok

ive never built a pc before

[deep skiff]

just make sure you set the nvme drive to the windows boot drive and for your most important items, as it will be much faster than a hard drive

[silver meteor]

Guys I’m pretty worried rn

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/27WJyk

Will the cooling be really bad

Using stock fans from the case and stock cpu cooler

[deep skiff]

as long as you aren't overclocking you should be fine

[silver meteor]

Okay

I’m not OCing

I just wanna make sure no components are overheating

[deep skiff]

yeah it's good

the amd stock coolers are good for what you need, running it at stock clocks but have some headroom for oc'ing

[silver meteor]

Oh perfect