#building-and-recc-chat | Newegg | Page 422

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 3:44 PM

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OK might not try again but want to see what a new cpu will do for it first since it didn't like a q8400 Intel chip that's in it right now. And read that by cleaning and new paste should also help an old gpu

foggy hazel Dec 4, 2019, 3:45 PM

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with all due respect. That is a very old gpu

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 3:46 PM

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📎 IMG_20191202_155517543.jpg 📎 Screenshot_20191204-104527.png

sudden turret Dec 4, 2019, 3:46 PM

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oh ya small phillips

foggy hazel Dec 4, 2019, 3:46 PM

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question: is it the light that makes it look like you have effed the bottom left and top right screwheads?

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or are they effed?

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 3:47 PM

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Ya tried that and the screw wouldn't bite onto the screwdriver. Meaning it wouldn't spin freely

sudden turret Dec 4, 2019, 3:47 PM

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screwdriver to big

foggy hazel Dec 4, 2019, 3:47 PM

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not quite what i am asking.

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 3:47 PM

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The light

foggy hazel Dec 4, 2019, 3:47 PM

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okay, so the screws are in okay condition still?

sudden turret Dec 4, 2019, 3:48 PM

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probably need an S1 size.

foggy hazel Dec 4, 2019, 3:48 PM

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i can almost guarantee that the amount of force you will need to apply will make the board/card/cooler "creak" quite loudly

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 3:49 PM

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Ya but there's two holes that there's no screws in at all what you might be seeing too. What you see is all the screws that are on the gpu

sudden turret Dec 4, 2019, 3:49 PM

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📎 20191204_104902.jpg

foggy hazel Dec 4, 2019, 3:50 PM

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insane/ the only screws that are traditionally "annoying" are the ones that are on the GPU backplate

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(metal cross on the back of the pcb)

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 3:50 PM

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Okay thx at this point might say screw it and just let it be since it's already running cooler that it was. Only crashing at 87c instead of 85c in heaven n msi kombustor

sudden turret Dec 4, 2019, 3:51 PM

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yeah but that paste is in need of a changing

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but if you plan on replacing it soon, I wouldn't bother

foggy hazel Dec 4, 2019, 3:51 PM

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just going to give you fair warning here. That GPU is not going to last IF you keep pushing it

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those cards last a long time, but they are not indestructible (i have handled enough of them over the years)

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 3:53 PM

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Ice ran it at 1.75 volt core clock at 945 memory at 1450 and 20 percent over on power draw for a yea and never had a problem have no clue what previous owner did with it other than never clean it. But yes you are correct it will eventually die someday

foggy hazel Dec 4, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Ice?

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Why I was wanting to change the paste on it so it will last longer n I meant to say I in last post sorry

foggy hazel Dec 4, 2019, 3:55 PM

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ah :)

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 3:55 PM

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So on another not it would be dumb to get the glacier 700w psu over a 800 apevia or the 850 glacier psu for my build?

foggy hazel Dec 4, 2019, 3:55 PM

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(arrow up key, and you can quickly edit your last post)

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 3:56 PM

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Oh OK thx

foggy hazel Dec 4, 2019, 3:56 PM

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np.

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for wattage, Dont know the apevia brand at all.

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and i have a personal preference for seasonic with their 10 year warranties. So yeah :)

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700 watts seems fairly high with the parts you mentioned. Unless you plan on OC'ing fairly hard?

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 3:59 PM

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I was going to overclock the cpu and keep my overclock on the gpu

sudden turret Dec 4, 2019, 3:59 PM

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but he plans on getting a 5700xt or equivalent

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 3:59 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20191204-092403.png

sudden turret Dec 4, 2019, 3:59 PM

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figured 700 range would be plenty for future proof.

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 3:59 PM

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This what a calculator told me so was wondering a 700w would be fine

foggy hazel Dec 4, 2019, 3:59 PM

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and that is also with a powerhog of a 6970.

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it is a 250watt card at stock

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 4:03 PM

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Yes the same calculator showing with a 5700 gpu uses less power even w a small over clock but wasn't sure why I was asking around since I'm a psu that I originally wasn't going to do since i had a old one in my other pc but now looking at buying one

foggy hazel Dec 4, 2019, 4:03 PM

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but that is neither here nor there :)

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either of the psu's should work. All depends on the actual quality.

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 4:04 PM

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That power number is with 4 120mm fans as well

foggy hazel Dec 4, 2019, 4:05 PM

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And as mentioned, dont know the apevia brand at all. So of the two choices. i can only vaguely point at the rosewill. But i would highle recommend having a look at johnnygurus site and see if there are any reviews there of the units in question.

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 4:06 PM

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OK thx one last question is a 80 plus gold rating that much better than 80 plus bronze?

foggy hazel Dec 4, 2019, 4:07 PM

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efficiency is slighty better.

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that is really all it means

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 4:07 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20191204-110729.png

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The apevia Prestige 800w gold I was asking about

foggy hazel Dec 4, 2019, 4:08 PM

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you are the one that will be doing the reading on JG's site :)

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 4:08 PM

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Yep I know

foggy hazel Dec 4, 2019, 4:09 PM

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something for you to keep in mind. Labels say a lot of things. Unless you personally trust a given brand. Dont trust the label

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 4:10 PM

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Okay thx

foggy hazel Dec 4, 2019, 4:10 PM

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np and best of luck figuring things out :)

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 4:11 PM

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Thx I probably go with the 700w psu since it sounds like it be enough for my system but I will check that site out as well before pulling trigger

foggy hazel Dec 4, 2019, 4:12 PM

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if you are not familiar with the site. Know that he is one of the most (if not THE most) respected PSU reviewers around

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https://www.jonnyguru.com/ <- i mispelled his name, so here is his site

JonnyGURU.com

Tazz

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 4:13 PM

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No I do not know of him

latent bronze Dec 4, 2019, 4:44 PM

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Eww Apevia

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 4:48 PM

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What do you guys think of the rosewill k85 and k81 keyboards in either brown or blue style switches?

latent bronze Dec 4, 2019, 4:50 PM

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K85 i would go for

autumn acorn Dec 4, 2019, 4:51 PM

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can someone look over my build list

latent bronze Dec 4, 2019, 4:51 PM

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For switches i wouldn't know

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link it

autumn acorn Dec 4, 2019, 4:51 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DBZRK4

latent bronze Dec 4, 2019, 4:52 PM

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its not bad

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If you wanted to spend a little less you can go for the Cooler Master https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RcdFf7/cooler-master-masterliquid-ml240l-rgb-667-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-mlw-d24m-a20pc-r1

autumn acorn Dec 4, 2019, 4:54 PM

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wanna hear my current pc

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lol

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fx-8320 1060 6gb 16gb ddr3 10/10 performance

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huge upgrade for me

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 4:55 PM

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@latent bronze why do you pick the k85? Curious on your thoughts

little osprey Dec 4, 2019, 5:06 PM

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Not too many memory deals up that I can see, but I'd go with something like this.
https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331244 for speed

or some 3600c18 2x16 kit to future proof. iirc that board prefers 2 sticks vs 4

latent bronze Dec 4, 2019, 5:08 PM

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@grizzled escarp Personally for me it is more the comfort and the cost

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 5:09 PM

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OK thx

latent bronze Dec 4, 2019, 5:10 PM

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This is the K81 which for me doesn't look all that comfortable for the wrist https://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll1280/23-201-113-V10.jpg

little osprey Dec 4, 2019, 5:27 PM

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Alright bois

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Weird buzzing sound coming from mobo

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Mostly when its in idle

foggy hazel Dec 4, 2019, 5:36 PM

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@little osprey any browsers open?

little osprey Dec 4, 2019, 5:36 PM

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Nah

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Jus pretty much idle

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It whent away when i turned on my monitor

foggy hazel Dec 4, 2019, 5:38 PM

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any other details that need questions before you mention them?

little osprey Dec 4, 2019, 5:38 PM

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No

sudden turret Dec 4, 2019, 5:39 PM

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coil whine

little osprey Dec 4, 2019, 5:39 PM

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Probabably windows indexer or performance/maintenance kicking in while you're afk, it can be very cpu intensive for 10 secs or so

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Seemed like more than. 10 sec tho

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But that could b it

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Ty

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Could be minutes , or near an hour - win 10 has an unfortunate number of caues for random cpu use

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So its nothin i should b concerned about

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Does it go away when yo upress the monitor power button? Or when you wake from sleep/display off

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If it's the former, soundslike some weird ground loop / floating ground + psu issue, weird stuff

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Just when i turned the monitor on. Pc stayed on all night

grizzled escarp Dec 4, 2019, 5:48 PM

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What's ur guys thoughts a out the steelseries Apex 100 keyboard

little osprey Dec 4, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Im a fan of the smaller keyboards

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So cant say

coarse coral Dec 4, 2019, 6:39 PM

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lirikCOZY

deep skiff Dec 4, 2019, 8:21 PM

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eww full sized

little osprey Dec 4, 2019, 8:27 PM

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Does @royal pelican give refunds on 1 day shipping that comes 3 days late

trim sky Dec 4, 2019, 8:38 PM

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Hey everyone I'm wanting to take my hard drive from my old PC and put it in my new PC that just came. How should I clear the space on the hard drive so I can start fresh on my new PC

little osprey Dec 4, 2019, 8:39 PM

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Format

trim sky Dec 4, 2019, 8:42 PM

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https://gyazo.com/2debb1ab5fd58f72b223b395bffeb2bd

Gyazo

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like this? @little osprey

little osprey Dec 4, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Yes

trim sky Dec 4, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Thank you

little osprey Dec 4, 2019, 8:43 PM

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It’ll wipe everything in the drive

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So if u have anything on it that u need u better back it up

sudden turret Dec 4, 2019, 9:24 PM

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https://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html

Best Free Partition Manager for Windows | MiniTool Partition Wizar...

As all-in-one free partition manager and disk manager software, MiniTool Partition Wizard Free helps manage disk space safely on Windows 10/8/7.

little osprey Dec 4, 2019, 9:43 PM

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If you run into issues - most secure way is - in an elevated cmd/powershell:

diskpart
list disk
sel disk x
clean

rest can be done from diskmgmt.msc

sudden turret Dec 4, 2019, 10:28 PM

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a gaming pc without RGB.

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fractals make nice cases

lime forge Dec 4, 2019, 10:31 PM

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Thermaltake Core X71 Tempered Glass Edition Black ATX Gaming Full Tower Tt LCS Certified Gaming Computer Case CA-1F8-00M1WN-02 https://m.newegg.com/product/N82E16811133331?m_ver=1

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Thermaltake Core V71 Tempered Glass Black E-ATX Full Tower Tt LCS Certified Gaming Computer Case CA-1B6-00F1WN-04 https://m.newegg.com/product/9SIAD6H6W54542?m_ver=1

ocean vine Dec 4, 2019, 11:34 PM

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Hello everyone i am upgrading an old computer with my kid. so far i have a AMD RYZEN 5 2600 6-Core 3.4 GHz (3.9 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 65W YD2600BBAFBOX Desktop Processor, AMD RYZEN 5 2600 6-Core 3.4 GHz (3.9 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 65W YD2600BBAFBOX Desktop Processor, G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C16D-16GVRB, Crucial MX500 2.5" 500GB SATA III 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) CT500MX500SSD1. Now i am just trying to pick a good motherboard. I was thinking either GIGABYTE B450 Gaming X AM4 AMD B450 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard, or the GIGABYTE B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (rev. 1.0) AM4 AMD B450 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard. other than wifi not sure the differance

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:14 AM

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Why Jeep

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Did you know newegg has a compare button?

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:15 AM

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Other than the wifi any other reason? What did you like about the Aorus? I also was just looking at this one from asus ASUS ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING AM4 AMD B450 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:15 AM

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I use it a lot . lol

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I've had that rog strix board

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it's really nice.

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:16 AM

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i think it is compatible with the preocessor and memory i bought

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thanks xmas

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:16 AM

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should be yes

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call me box 😛

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:16 AM

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np

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:16 AM

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this PC for your kid?

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:17 AM

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i am so not sure what i should look for in a motherboard

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been a long time since i was really into this stuff

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:17 AM

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You're on the right path.

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:17 AM

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well i already screwed up once

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:17 AM

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oh no

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:18 AM

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i got the gigabyte b450m DS3H board thats a micro

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and i really wanted the extra sata plugs of a full atx

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:18 AM

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lol

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mistake, learned

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:18 AM

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oh well

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live and learn

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:18 AM

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return it?

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:18 AM

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yep

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glad i didnt open it

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:19 AM

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yeah I bet that helped a ton

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:19 AM

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looked at the box and said oh wait that doesnt look bix enough

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:19 AM

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doh. lol

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:19 AM

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so everything i have looks like it will work together well?

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:19 AM

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how many sata ports did it have on it ThinkingEgg

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:20 AM

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4

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i have a few hard drives i want to put in it

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:20 AM

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Asus Primes and ASRock Steel Legends tends to have 6

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:21 AM

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had to rebuy windows so ordered a Crucial MX500 2.5" 500GB SATA III 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) CT500MX500SSD1

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i think this asus has 6

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not positive

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:21 AM

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why do you have to rebuy windows?

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:21 AM

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a lot of people don't know about ebay eckz

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:21 AM

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what's ebay 😛

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:21 AM

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all i had was windows 7 oem key

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:21 AM

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you could have upgraded 🙂

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or I found out that using your 7 key would work on 10

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:22 AM

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Pretty sure you can use the 7 key on 10

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:22 AM

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i got the free upgrade to 10 but the new motherboard screwed me

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:22 AM

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ah

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worst case, you can get a legit working key on ebay for around 7-10 usd

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:23 AM

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oh well, internet sucks ass here so less to download

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:23 AM

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lol

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:23 AM

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please dont tell my bride that

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:23 AM

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but yeah I do like the rog strix board

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I kinda miss it

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:23 AM

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sweet

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makes me feel better

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 12:24 AM

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You can strip the install image down to <1GB if needed. If going win 7 - make sure you load usb 3 drivers

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Oh good. 10 is far, far easier to install and use on modern hardware.

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:25 AM

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and probably better supported

deep skiff Dec 5, 2019, 12:25 AM

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windows xp master race :v

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:25 AM

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rebuilding an older computer with my kid

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LMAO

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just was looking for compatibility advice on stuff i was getting or already got

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 12:26 AM

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Funny - lot of people are installing and benching windows xp 32, win 8, server 2012 r2 etc right now since country cup is going on - hwbot

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:27 AM

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why?

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 12:27 AM

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Some stuff will just always run better in a native 32 bit os, superpi , wprime, etc. Most 2d stuff - There's probably way more to it, I mean, I know there is, but win 10 is great for 2019 use haha

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:28 AM

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@ocean vine how many drives are you using as well?

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:29 AM

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at the moment only one disk, putting in one SSD drive and one probably two HDD

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and my case has a SATA on the front. not that i have ever used it in the last 8pluse years

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:30 AM

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ok just cause for certain boards that tends to have 6 sata ports when using a NVMe usually 5 and 6 would be disabled

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:31 AM

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whats NVMe?

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:31 AM

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It is a type of SSD

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:31 AM

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looks like a stik?

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stick

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:32 AM

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Like this https://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductImage/20-147-693-V21.jpg

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:32 AM

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ah ok

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are there any compatibility issues with 2.5 inch ssd's?

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:33 AM

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Nope not really

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:33 AM

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sweet

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:33 AM

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my system is using 3 2.5" SSD's

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:34 AM

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bet that runs nice

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cant wait to see what its like

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:34 AM

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oh trust me you will never use a hard drive again for booting

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:34 AM

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you'll love it

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lol

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:34 AM

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well i am going to click the go button on the asus MoBo

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:35 AM

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nvme for OS and ssd for games

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:35 AM

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yea just got a 500gb figured it would be big enough for boot and a game or two

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:35 AM

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500gb could be for boot and 2 to 5 games

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:36 AM

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that will make the kid very happy

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:37 AM

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what are they playing?

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:37 AM

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astroneers

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:37 AM

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have you picked graphics card yet?

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:37 AM

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the current build from years ago doesnt really do it

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yea i have a MSI Radeon RX 580 DirectX 12 RX 580 ARMOR 8G OC 8GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video ...

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:38 AM

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ah decent card

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:39 AM

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oh thank god

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i was so scared to hear WTF did you buy that one?

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:40 AM

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I would of went for the 1650 Super but that is me

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:40 AM

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started out trying to do this upgrade on a budget

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:40 AM

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how long ago diid you buy the 580?

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:40 AM

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i have so not kept up with computing stuff

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just got it yesterday

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:40 AM

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it's hard man, it changes monthly

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:41 AM

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yea

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:41 AM

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but if your on a budget, that's a good card

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:41 AM

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hell of an improvement from what i had

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:41 AM

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Wait is that the armor card that is black and white?

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:42 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-580-rx-580-armor-8g-oc/p/N82E16814137118?Item=N82E16814137118

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:42 AM

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nice

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:42 AM

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It is ok

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:43 AM

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and you get the game pass and game bundle

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:43 AM

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i would suggest for that to have a system with very good cooling

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:44 AM

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so the asus MOBO over the gigibyte? that was the other reason i didnt want the micro mobo, only one fan plug

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 12:44 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144264

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:44 AM

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I have a Asus Prime B450M-A and it has 2 fan headers and 1 for the CPU

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:45 AM

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i have a cooler master full tower with 4 fans

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i think the asus mobo has 3 plugs plus cpu

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:45 AM

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is it the masterbox 5?

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:46 AM

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dear god no idea, like 10 years old

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:46 AM

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hehe

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:46 AM

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8-10

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its a HAF somthing

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 12:47 AM

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ah

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good case

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:47 AM

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Haf-X?

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the older cases are better i find

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newer one's it is more to make the system look pretty

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:49 AM

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i think like 912 or somthing. i was just looking for the book but cant find it at the moment

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:50 AM

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This is also what i mean by making it look pretty https://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll1280/11-119-325-V02.jpg

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there are vents on the top and bottom for that front but it is a little small

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:51 AM

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yea mine looks alot like the 932

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https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/cases/full-tower/haf-932/

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mine has huge fans and ready for watercooling

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:52 AM

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You have an intake fan on the side right?

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:52 AM

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yep

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:52 AM

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Good cause of that RX 580

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:52 AM

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gonna be pretty hot?

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:53 AM

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fans gets a little loud so at least having a fan on the side it shouldn't be in use much

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:53 AM

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cool

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 12:53 AM

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That is the only complaint i have seen/heard people have with the cheap armor card

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the MK2 is the better one of course

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 12:56 AM

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oops

lime forge Dec 5, 2019, 12:57 AM

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no swearing please

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 1:02 AM

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@ocean vine This is the case i went for https://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll1280/11-147-298-V01.jpg

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on the right side you can also see air vents https://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll1280/11-147-298_R01.jpg

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 1:13 AM

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SWEET!

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Thanks for the help everyone, the asus mobo is on the way. my kid will be very excited to put this thing back together.

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 1:15 AM

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Oh ya for that 580 you would have no problems with the game mentioned at 1440p

grizzled escarp Dec 5, 2019, 1:48 AM

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Once the image uploads it show my current amd build

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Just missing a rosewill glacier 700w psu n Asus dvd/cd drive that w be here Monday. I also have 3 120mm case fans n a 1tb hard drive being used from old antec 900 system

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That's my old Intel q8400 system with a huge antec 900 case

ocean vine Dec 5, 2019, 1:57 AM

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@latent bronzeGamer hoping it also places the riped DVD's better

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plays

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 2:02 AM

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How do you like the 900?

grizzled escarp Dec 5, 2019, 2:09 AM

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It's nice and huge but I bought a deepcool tesseract case to replace it for better cable management and is a bit smaller too. Big down side is its hard to keep clean and gets dirty fast even w positive case pressure @little osprey

fossil hedge Dec 5, 2019, 5:10 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/temptation-house-house-md-hugh-laurie-tempted-gif-8117580

Tenor

House - Temptation

▶ Play video

crystal pagoda Dec 5, 2019, 12:02 PM

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@grizzled escarp yeah. I replaced my 900 with a HAF case a while ago. Nothing technically wrong with it, but it's impossible to clean once it's dirty. Looks like crap after a while.

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It's too bad too. Because other than that it was a damn fine case.

rough loom Dec 5, 2019, 12:23 PM

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only way to clean the HAF-X is straight up with an air compressor. Other than that you gotta replace the fans after a while. And those fans are expensive

crystal pagoda Dec 5, 2019, 12:29 PM

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My HAF case sits on the dusty floor and stays clean

grizzled escarp Dec 5, 2019, 2:20 PM

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@crystal pagoda i agree that's why I got a second for 20 bux a few yrs ago but moved twice and don't know where I put it. But basicly got the windowed side panel off of it for 20 which what it would of cost from antec. It's a great case just past its prime my opinion. Wanted something that hap better cable management a little bit smaller and looked a little nicer too overall. But ya once it's dirty harder than hell to get it clean. I've torn it all apart once and deep cleaned everything and it still somewhat dirty.

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Hopefully the deepcool tesseract I won't have that issue as badly or at all.

muted path Dec 5, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Hi! Technically incompetent person stupidly trying to get all the components for a docking station for a more technically savvy person as a gift. I'm looking for a solution and I can't figure out what to purchase... I have gotten two Dell U2415 monitors, a belkin Thunderbolt 3 mini docking station, aaaand... a 2014 macbook pro with thunderbolt 2 ports. The only 2-way adapter I could find was the apple tb 3 to tb 2 adapter, but from what I can tell, visually, I need a tb 2 male to tb 3 female and this adapter is the opposite of what I'm looking for. I need the 2-way for flight simulator components. Does this exist? If not, what is the best reasonably priced TB 2 docking station with 2 HDMI ports?

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Please respond like you're talking to a 5 year old.

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 3:25 PM

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I don't deal with macs

chilly marsh Dec 5, 2019, 4:52 PM

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^

muted path Dec 5, 2019, 4:56 PM

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Great! Super helpful... thank you. Is the whole site this inclusive and welcoming? Or just this thread?

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 4:56 PM

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lol?

muted path Dec 5, 2019, 4:58 PM

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I'm not super smart when it comes to computers, but I feel like you could insert any computer with TB 2 ports in place of "2014 macbook pro" and it would still be the same question.

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 5:01 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/2VF-000E-00021?Description=hdmi to thunderbolt converter&cm_re=hdmi_to_thunderbolt_converter-_-2VF-000E-00021-_-Product

muted path Dec 5, 2019, 5:44 PM

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I looked at this one, but it's still got the TB 3 male plug for a TB 2 female receptacle. Will the 2's take both 3 and 2 plugs?

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Hey guys which ram do you reckon is better Ballistix Elite 32GB (8GBx4) DDR4-4000 UDIMM or Ballistix Elite 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3600 UDIMM for a gaming PC I think these rams have the best latency or something

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?

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Thanks

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 6:48 PM

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which processor?

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Xtreme

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Motherboard

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9900KS processor

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 6:50 PM

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4,000 :p

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well wait

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Wait 1 sec

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 6:51 PM

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ok yeah that mobo can handle up to 4400 oc'd

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olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 6:52 PM

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This is the specs for the 4000 Ram

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DDR4 PC4-32000 • 18-19-19-39 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR4-4000 • 1.35V • 1024Meg x 64 •

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And for the 3600 one

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Specs: DDR4 PC4-28800 • 16-18-18 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR4-3600 • 1.35V • 1024Meg x 64 •

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 6:52 PM

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any reason for the high mhz?

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 6:52 PM

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No not really

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 6:52 PM

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bragging rights? 😛

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Just what the best performance for gaming

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And a bit of bragging rights

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 6:53 PM

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to save some money, you could get 3200mhz and still be great for gaming

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 6:53 PM

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It's a bit confusing for me all this ram stuff

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 6:53 PM

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even 3,000mhz would be fine.

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 6:54 PM

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Yeah I will probably go the cheaper option then

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If that is the case

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Thanks for helping me decide

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 6:54 PM

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G. Skill Trident Z

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really good ram

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same with Corsairs Vengeance

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https://www.pcgamer.com/does-ram-matter-for-gaming/

pcgamer

Does RAM speed and capacity matter for gaming?

And if so, how much?

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read up on that, might help clear your head 🙂

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 6:55 PM

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Yeah I've seen a lot of those

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G.skill looks amazing

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 6:56 PM

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your biggest thing for gaming will be your CPU, and your storage

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er the storage you have your games on

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 6:56 PM

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But I saw the Ballistix boasting it had the best latency and best optimised for gaming

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 6:56 PM

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typically, m.2 nvme for operating system, ssd for game, then reg drive/hybrids for overflw

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 6:56 PM

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So I 2nd guessed

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I got the 970 Ssd Samsung

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Ordered today

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 6:57 PM

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I mean yeah, super fast ram is great. but its not the deciding factor to make games run better.

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Yeah

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I think my build should be okay

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 6:58 PM

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oh yeah from what you said, it's a really nice setup

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what gpu?

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Need to order the Monitor, ram, motherboard , case and keyboard still

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 6:59 PM

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also 32gb is more than enough, but you can go with even 16gb and still have plenty

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save even more.

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 6:59 PM

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I was stuck on deciding either the Gigabyte Aorus Xtreme Waterforce or the Gigabyte Aorus Xtreme

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:00 PM

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I play ARK which is terrible optimized and a ram hog, and with discord open, maybe a browser and the game, I sit around 11 used of 16

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and it runs just fine

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:00 PM

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But I think it is just easier to not go for the Waterforce unless you recommend it

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I went for the 2080 ti

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:00 PM

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oh heck yeah

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you won't need to upgrade in forever.

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waterforce is nice not gonna lie. lol

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Asus Geforce RTX 2080 Ti Rog Strix OC White edition

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:01 PM

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hot!

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:01 PM

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I was thinking of going for 2 originally but don't think there is any point

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Yeah

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:01 PM

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no, there isn't

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2 2080ti is nothing more than glam\status

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:02 PM

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I see

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:02 PM

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especially if you're just gaming

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Yeah I won't bother with that then

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Hmm I could go for the Waterforce then

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Because I know when that will be in stock

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Unlike the other 1

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Also he dropped down in price a bit

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:03 PM

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it'll run cool and quiet

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:03 PM

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Is it much harder to set up?

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Or just a bit more difficult

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:03 PM

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yes and no, kinda depends on your case.

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:03 PM

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I will show you the case

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:03 PM

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with reg card you just pop in and go.

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with the water force, you have that, plus the 240mm radiator to hook up.

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it's not hard, just extra care and patience involved

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Hmm I see

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:04 PM

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if you ever installed an AIO its basically the same thing

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:05 PM

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This will be my first PC but I will get help from someone

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DEEPCOOL Quadstellar RGB 4 Cabin Smart EATX PC Gaming Case

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This will be my case

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:05 PM

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oooooooh

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Or would that not be compatible

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?

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:06 PM

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that might cause some hindrance

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:06 PM

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Damn

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:06 PM

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because of the odd shape

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:06 PM

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I will have to look out for another case

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Yeah it is very odd

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Loook

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Loool*

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Is it an all in one Hydro cooler? I need

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:08 PM

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well the water force model come with it

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:09 PM

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Oh okay so I won't need to order anything else for it?

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:09 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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nope

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:10 PM

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Wait did you think I was taking about the graphics card?

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I meant the motherboard

lime forge Dec 5, 2019, 7:11 PM

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that looks like it could be a rog card

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lmao

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:11 PM

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oh haha

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:11 PM

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Gigabyte Aorus Xtreme Waterforce

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:11 PM

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yes teddy I did lol

lime forge Dec 5, 2019, 7:11 PM

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kinda a fail on aorus's part

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:11 PM

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That is my bad

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:11 PM

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yes you need a whole water cooling kit for that

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if you never built before, I wouldn't suggest it

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:12 PM

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@lime forge the motherboard or graphics card?

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:12 PM

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or never dealt with custom water cooling

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:12 PM

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@sudden turret Yeah I will leave it

lime forge Dec 5, 2019, 7:12 PM

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gpu

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:12 PM

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but as far as the gpu, there is nothing you need to do.

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:13 PM

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I will just get the Aorus Xtreme motherboard

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Then

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I already ordered the gpu

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The Asus one

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:13 PM

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if you're going all aorus, they make ram too 😄

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:13 PM

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Didn't even know that

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:13 PM

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yep, and it's gorgeous

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:14 PM

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But then again with that case I don't think you can even see inside

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That case I'm going for

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:14 PM

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true

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:14 PM

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I'm not to fussed with the aesthetics

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Actually pretty scared with my 1st PC build

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:17 PM

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well, to be honest you're going over the top 😄

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for a first buiild

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if you have someone that can help you that has a lot of knowledge building... would def save you a headache

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but there are so many DIY youtube videos you can study

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:18 PM

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I will have someone with me

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:18 PM

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perfect.

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:19 PM

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Knowing myself I would mess up everything

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:19 PM

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make sure to come back and post final pictures in #build-pics and have the newegg crew either tell you they love it, or hate it on stream 🙂 lol

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:20 PM

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Yeah for sure

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Would be funny getting my build roasted

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:20 PM

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lol

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they are usually nice about it

olive harbor Dec 5, 2019, 7:22 PM

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Nice

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 7:39 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/37B-000B-002K1?Item=9SIAC8WAJ46015&cm_sp=SellerProfile_MKPL-_-P1_9SIAC8WAJ46015-_-12052019

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o m g .....

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that is absolutely beautiful

carmine kernel Dec 5, 2019, 8:19 PM

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@latent bronze sorry about that, I’ll read the rules more in depth now.

trim summit Dec 5, 2019, 8:19 PM

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ok anyways where can i get the cardboard case for cheap?

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I'm on a budget

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$1.79

neon plaza Dec 5, 2019, 8:23 PM

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l

heavy quest Dec 5, 2019, 8:23 PM

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lol 1.79

wild pulsar Dec 5, 2019, 8:48 PM

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Suggestions on a case? I’m building again and want some more advice from people more intelligent then myself.

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 8:48 PM

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Ask Demon then

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 8:48 PM

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Well cases are subjective tho

willow mulch Dec 5, 2019, 8:49 PM

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How to get money

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 8:49 PM

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So it can be rather hard to find a "good" one

wild pulsar Dec 5, 2019, 8:50 PM

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@cursive wharf that’s the problem I like so many of them. Was considering a mastercool H500 or a dark flash phantom

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 8:51 PM

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ok, so I am legit curious if some people can help me with build advice

wild pulsar Dec 5, 2019, 8:51 PM

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Send it @oblique estuary

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 8:52 PM

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well, I've only ever built one computer, and that was like.... 2006

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I have no clue what Im doing with modern hardware

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 8:53 PM

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You could always go for the Focus G, Meshify C or even this one https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147301

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 8:53 PM

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@wild pulsar So long as airflow isnt bad I dont really think you should worry much

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 8:53 PM

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But it seems to me that the best value by far is to build your own right now.

wild pulsar Dec 5, 2019, 8:53 PM

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@latent bronze I do like the meshify

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 8:53 PM

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@oblique estuary For what purpose anyways

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Also what would be your max budget as well

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 8:54 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/27WJyk

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Thoughts? Already ordered

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 8:55 PM

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Well, Iplay some games, mainly World of warships and some steam games, tiple A titles from a couple years back, though I may get Fallen Order soon. I want to do that well enough. Otherwise I do a lot of dungeon mapping for my DnD campaign

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looking at like 900-1200 usd for max budget?

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the system I have now has a gtx 1070 that I can steal to save some money short term, but that would be directly subtracted from the budget.

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GPUs these days are so huge

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Thats a concern for a lot of cases isn't it?

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 8:57 PM

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Yes but if you need a case for GPU room get a NZXT H510i

wild pulsar Dec 5, 2019, 8:58 PM

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I was looking for a big mid case without going a full case

deep skiff Dec 5, 2019, 8:58 PM

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i'd just go for a h510, you don't really need the lighting stuff and vertical mount if you want to go h510i route

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 8:58 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/27WJyk

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Guys thoughts

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 8:58 PM

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The RGB stuff is cool.

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 8:58 PM

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Pls

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 8:59 PM

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Now, does keeping a system on all the time hurt anything? My current computer (I did not build) Takes forever to boot up.

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 8:59 PM

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Yes

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It can degrade it

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 8:59 PM

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So I leave it on basically 24/7

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 8:59 PM

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Slowly

wild pulsar Dec 5, 2019, 9:00 PM

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I think maybe a better psu @silver meteor

deep skiff Dec 5, 2019, 9:00 PM

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its fine if its on 24/7

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:00 PM

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@wild pulsar WHATS wrong with it

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Whats*

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Sorry caps

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I had like 8 different PSUs and already returned 3

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So I’m not returning it again

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But I just wanna know why you think it’s bad

wild pulsar Dec 5, 2019, 9:00 PM

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@silver meteor wait one

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:01 PM

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@oblique estuary Since you have a GPU already this is what your build would look like https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GHHJyk

wild pulsar Dec 5, 2019, 9:02 PM

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@silver meteor I just usually go bigger then what’s needed I was running a 800w gold standard for a really small build, just personal preference. OC?

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:02 PM

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No OC, that’s why I don’t need anything more

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Until I get a water cooler and better airflow, then I’ll upgrade my PSU too

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:02 PM

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the warning on that list is a false warning because the Max series are 3000 ready

deep skiff Dec 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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^

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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@latent bronze don't ryzen cpus come with a cooler? I thought I read that somewhere....

wild pulsar Dec 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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@silver meteor that makes more sense

deep skiff Dec 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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they do

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Hello guys,
I know it's not possible but I'm gonna ask anyway
Do any one of you have, whatever crazy idea on how could you make an NON - k i5 7400 cpu, overclocked past 3.5Ghz
I mean, I've tried being creative, tried disabling cores to gain anything at least
SO, anyone has a crazy idea I can try?

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Jess they do but for overclocking it would be better to have something better

deep skiff Dec 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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cant oc a non K processor @little osprey

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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He can soft clock instead

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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I wasn't really planning on OCing

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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I mean, I've got 3.58Ghz

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by disabling cores

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:04 PM

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Jess still better to have something to cool it down better

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:04 PM

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@wild pulsar yeah and it’s also supposed to be a relatively reliable PSU so I think it’s fine

wild pulsar Dec 5, 2019, 9:04 PM

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Corsair makes good PSU’s

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Usually they do, besides their CXM series

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:05 PM

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I'm on 3.6ghz max iirc on my i5 6500

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:05 PM

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RMX, RM, CX, they’re all fine

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:05 PM

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so these 4.x ghz cpus are a pretty large jump up

wild pulsar Dec 5, 2019, 9:05 PM

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My rig arm is fried lol so I’m also in the process of rebuilding from scratch lmao

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:05 PM

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My CPU is 3.9 out of the box so I won’t IC

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OC*

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:05 PM

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My budget was $500 how does this look?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D2P9cq
Thanks!

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:06 PM

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@little osprey replace 1050 to with a RX 580

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It’s really good otherwise

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:06 PM

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too much money

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:06 PM

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And you would recomend an older chipset motherboard (I hope Im saying that right) over the newer?

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:06 PM

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It’s a lot better though

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:07 PM

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i know but my mom is strict on the $500 mark

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Oh alright

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:07 PM

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By that logic he should stick a 2080 TI in his $500 build because "its a lot better though"

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:07 PM

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@little osprey also you’re PSU is very overkill.

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Your*

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:07 PM

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well in around a month i'm getting a 3600 with a rx 590

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so just preparing

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:08 PM

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That build uses what, 400W? Id get a 550W just for futureproofing on that build, 700W is overkill indeed

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:08 PM

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Don’t get the other one then, combine the money for both and get a nicer build @little osprey

deep skiff Dec 5, 2019, 9:08 PM

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@little osprey live near a microcenter?

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:08 PM

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@little osprey this would be better https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rTKkJb

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:09 PM

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It’s really dumb to spend money on one build and then buy another the next month @little osprey

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:09 PM

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nope i don't live near one and the parts have been ordered anyways

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:09 PM

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Then why ask us?

opaque gale Dec 5, 2019, 9:09 PM

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I was thinking about replacing my i3 6100 with a 7700k, but then out of the blue my buddy buys me an ROG Z390F mb

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:09 PM

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@silver meteor my mom is ordering these parts for christmas then the ones for my birthday.

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Omg

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:10 PM

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and i was just wondering my gaming performance

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Alright you do you

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@little osprey what games

wild pulsar Dec 5, 2019, 9:10 PM

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I wish I had friends that lived by me that were also into building lol

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:10 PM

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IKR

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Scum,, Arma 3, escape from tarkov

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Idk any of those titles

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:10 PM

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ouf

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:11 PM

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@little osprey the 1050 Ti is ok but for games now you would want something better and also for those games you would need something a lot better which is why i altered your list

wild pulsar Dec 5, 2019, 9:11 PM

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I’ve heard of Arma

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:11 PM

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pretty demanding game

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For Arma and Scum you really want something better than a quad core

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:11 PM

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Oh that’s not good then

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Probably something near 40 frames low settings, again I don’t know the title

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:12 PM

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@latent bronze my current pc has a a8-6600k and ddr3 mem with that 1050 ti and i can run all of the games a listed just at around 30 fps

opaque gale Dec 5, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Ey, 1050Ti gang who up

deep skiff Dec 5, 2019, 9:12 PM

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yeah also never get a retail 1050 ti, the rx 570/1650S/rx 580 are much better

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:12 PM

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yea sorry

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:12 PM

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You really don't want to play those games at 30 fps trust me

deep skiff Dec 5, 2019, 9:12 PM

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you can ask 1050 ti owners, dont get them for $100+

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:13 PM

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Why get a new GPU just keep the 1050tu from your current build

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:13 PM

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i already do @latent bronze

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i just told you i can play those games

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so when these new parts arrive i was wondering if the performance jump was a lot

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:13 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/27WJyk

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:13 PM

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I am aware you play them on that but when building a new system you want something to go way past 30 fps

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:13 PM

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For Fortnite and Overwatch mainly

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Thoughts

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On that build

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:14 PM

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@silver meteor i am keeping the 1050 ti

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:14 PM

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Then upgrade something else

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:14 PM

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so for light(ish) gaming, is the extra $50 for a 3700x vs 3600x worth it?

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:14 PM

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@silver meteor It is a good build but if you want to save a bit of money you can always go for the MSI B450 Max boards

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:14 PM

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Im looking for a computer that will last a while.

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:14 PM

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Yes @latent bronze I got it in a cyber Monday sale bundle

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It was the price of a B450

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:15 PM

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@latent bronze my old pc can play those games at 30fps, my new build is what i'm talking about! when i get those new parts do you think there will be a noticeable performance jump.

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:15 PM

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No

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:15 PM

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Not that much with the 2200G

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:15 PM

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10 frames maybe

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Not really though

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Thoughts? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/tmN28M - To note, the cooler is not correct its just close enough to the one I want which it doesnt have listed (still an AIO). Will be doing some decent gaming like 144hz stuff, need it as a budget at home workstation in the process (I plan to add more ram later), and my main concern is around the motherboard as I really don't know too much about it. My availability from where I am buying from is also quite low for selection on everything

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:16 PM

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but i have a a8-6600k

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2gb ddr3 memory

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:16 PM

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That APU also cuts down your GPU slot from a PCIE 3.0 X16 to a PCIE 3.0 X8

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:16 PM

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ya i know

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wait what

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no it doesn

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:16 PM

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@tight bluff try to stay away from Zotac

cold elbow Dec 5, 2019, 9:17 PM

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Nomad you probably want a 570 board

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:17 PM

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I considered the 570 but the budget doesn't really allow without cutting down something else significant

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:17 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/27WJyk
Rate out of ten? Also how many frames will I run on Overwatch and Fortnite, do you guys think?

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:18 PM

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@latent bronze i know from gamer nexus that the 2200g supports x16

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:18 PM

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Ive not fully decided what 2080S I will have, Palit or zotac, but Ive never had problems with zotac. I dont OC GPUs ever, and they're just both reliable and cheap

cold elbow Dec 5, 2019, 9:18 PM

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You can get 2tb hard drives for a lot less than 110

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:19 PM

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Yeah the one Im looking at is pretty much the same seagate for half that.

cold elbow Dec 5, 2019, 9:19 PM

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Yeah

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Seagate-BarraCuda-Internal-Drive-Cache/dp/B07H2RR55Q/ref=sr_1_2?crid=37PWT8U72U44A&keywords=4gb%2Bhdd%2Binternal&qid=1573911612&sprefix=4gb%2Bhdd%2Cspecialty-aps%2C148&sr=8-2&th=1

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:19 PM

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I am not buying at the prices pcpartpicker found.

cold elbow Dec 5, 2019, 9:19 PM

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Good

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:19 PM

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@little osprey take a closer look https://i.gyazo.com/06111680d95617aef0f63fd2ad72d575.png

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:19 PM

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Just used it to share the build I have in mind.

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:19 PM

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@latent bronze https://youtu.be/XJuj16gRoBI

YouTube

Gamers Nexus

PCIe 3.0 x8 vs. x16: Does It Impact GPU Performance?

This was a very loosely conducted test as more of a curiosity. We briefly look at PCI-e 3.0 (Gen3) x16 vs x8 to determine how much impact the lanes have on a...

▶ Play video

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:19 PM

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Guys out of ten rate my build

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/27WJyk
Fortnite on low settings, 1080p? How many frames do you guys think I’ll run ^^

cold elbow Dec 5, 2019, 9:20 PM

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Ah ok

calm goblet Dec 5, 2019, 9:20 PM

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this is my proposed build. some parts are already on their way https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sb6BL2

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:20 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/27WJyk
Fortnite on low settings, 1080p? How many frames do you guys think I’ll run ^^

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:21 PM

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Those KBM though lol.

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:21 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bMzHGc
this is what i’m working on right now, i’m looking at getting a used 2060, and want to switch to amd. any suggestions?

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:21 PM

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Also https://i.gyazo.com/9d82b9adef87f76081f8351d546559e4.png

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:21 PM

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@silver meteor you could just run fortnite at max settings with a build like that

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:21 PM

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Mhm

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Probably

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:22 PM

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Looking at the price without peripherals, looks pretty solid. I think the fast ram is a good choice with the 3800x for that budget, and nothing wrong with a decent 2070S @calm goblet

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The keyboard and mouse though... I mean if its your preference I guess lol

calm goblet Dec 5, 2019, 9:22 PM

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its all ive ever known

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:23 PM

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@latent bronze if you watch that video i sent you then you'd understand that there is only a 1% peformance difference for x8 vs x16 so why does it matter at all.

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:23 PM

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You know also in that video he is using a 1080 not a 1050 Ti

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:23 PM

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ok? your point?

calm goblet Dec 5, 2019, 9:23 PM

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the mouse ive already ordered, but i havent ordered the kb yet. still trying to work around how to get a windows os off of an old hdd

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:23 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/27WJyk
Fortnite on low settings, 1080p? How many frames do you guys think I’ll run ^^

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:23 PM

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Pull a linus, just never activate windows

calm goblet Dec 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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lmfao

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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Eww

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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i do that

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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Windows activated is better looking

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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its free

calm goblet Dec 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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^^

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all hail customizability

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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Facts

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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If windows wasnt so hard to hacktivate then Id assume the licenses for people who want to buy legit would go down.

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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windows activated is no watermark and customizable colors for $100

calm goblet Dec 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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down with the watermarks

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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I had back then a 2400G with a RX 570 i was getting on most of my games at least 65 fps on average when i swapped to the 2600 which should be in theory only about 10 fps more i was getting almost 90 fps instead

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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@calm goblet your build is basically equal performance to mine

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:25 PM

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for mid range GPU's it does tend to lower the performance

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:25 PM

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well my a8-6600k also doesn't support x16 so it doesn't really matter.

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:25 PM

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RMX vs RM PSUs?

calm goblet Dec 5, 2019, 9:25 PM

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the potential storage capacity in my cage is op

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:25 PM

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rm is cheaper

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Yes

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I’m getting

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RM

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yea

mild igloo Dec 5, 2019, 9:26 PM

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dude when we gonna get 8k 240hz side panels *HURRY UP iBuyPower!!!!

calm goblet Dec 5, 2019, 9:26 PM

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ewww

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Really you do not want to cheap out on your processor especially when playing those games

calm goblet Dec 5, 2019, 9:26 PM

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then again, im biased from ibuypower cause of the mess i got put in with them

mild igloo Dec 5, 2019, 9:27 PM

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oof

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:27 PM

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@calm goblet they put many people in messes. Bad company

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:27 PM

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Does anyone have any links to numbers for how much faster ram (specifically 3200 to 3600) affects the performance on AMD CPUs?

coarse coral Dec 5, 2019, 9:27 PM

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which amd cpus

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:27 PM

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Never buy prebuilts unless it’s Digital Storm, which is overpriced

mild igloo Dec 5, 2019, 9:27 PM

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@silver meteor BOY

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:27 PM

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@coarse coral https://pcpartpicker.com/list/27WJyk
Fortnite on low settings, 1080p? How many frames do you think I’ll run ^^

calm goblet Dec 5, 2019, 9:27 PM

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id never buy a prebuild over my cold dead body

mild igloo Dec 5, 2019, 9:27 PM

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@silver meteor -12

coarse coral Dec 5, 2019, 9:27 PM

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you'll be fine with a 2070

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:27 PM

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Pretty much ryzen 9 thirdgen

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:27 PM

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@mild igloo of yeah facts

calm goblet Dec 5, 2019, 9:28 PM

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literally go to the seventh circle of hell and back to avoid it

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:28 PM

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@coarse coral but like the overall build, you think it’ll be ok?

mild igloo Dec 5, 2019, 9:28 PM

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yea boi

coarse coral Dec 5, 2019, 9:28 PM

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yes its fine

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:28 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bMzHGc
this is what i’m working on right now, i’m looking at getting a used 2060, and want to switch to amd. any suggestions?

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:28 PM

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Okay

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:28 PM

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ok, so I used that part picker to work this out: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wm6ygJ Thoughts?

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:28 PM

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Thanks

coarse coral Dec 5, 2019, 9:28 PM

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get win 10 pro x64

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:29 PM

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Is the CM Masterliquid ML240L the same as the 240 Lite under a different name or is it fundamentally different? I was trying to figure out that earlier

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:29 PM

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@coarse coral why pro? I have regular

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:29 PM

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@oblique estuary Don't go with the masterbox 5

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:29 PM

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Why not?

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:29 PM

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@oblique estuary What GPU are you going for?

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Or dont need one?

coarse coral Dec 5, 2019, 9:29 PM

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pro does a better job protecting your pc data

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:29 PM

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Well, I have a 1070 but I will prob later upgrade to a 2070s

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Oh

coarse coral Dec 5, 2019, 9:30 PM

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and has remote desktop which can be helpful at the right time

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:30 PM

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But performance wise

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:30 PM

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the font of that case Jess has very minimal airflow

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Fair enough, I was just considering the PSU. 650 is fine, overkill if you dont ever plan on going for OC on the CPU

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:30 PM

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recomendations then?

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@tight bluff so its not too much if Im using a 2070s?

calm crypt Dec 5, 2019, 9:31 PM

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yo so im building a pc rn and im using an msi tomahawk b450 mobo and the front power connectors from my case are connecting but it only powers on for like half a second any ideas what im doing wrong?

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:31 PM

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I think its fine

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 9:32 PM

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Fuzzy check the 2 pin connectors

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:32 PM

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If you have a 1070 already it’s not worth upgrading. Wait until the 3000 series comes out, the 1070 is still a great GPU

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 9:32 PM

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that you connect to the mobo, you might have one in the wrong spot.

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:32 PM

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1070 vs 2070s isn't worth?

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:32 PM

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Not really

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What games

calm crypt Dec 5, 2019, 9:32 PM

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which 2 pin

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 9:32 PM

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the powerbutton

calm crypt Dec 5, 2019, 9:32 PM

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ok

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:32 PM

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If you have a 1070 don’t upgrade to a 2070, 2070 is better but not so much that you need to worry about upgrading

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 9:32 PM

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the reset

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:33 PM

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2080S maybe would be worth it but 2070s is a bit close.

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:33 PM

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I play world of warships and some triple a titles along with some really heavily modded skyrim se and fallout

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want to play fallen order

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:33 PM

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@little osprey great build

wild pulsar Dec 5, 2019, 9:33 PM

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Hardest part is there are so many options lol

calm crypt Dec 5, 2019, 9:33 PM

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like ive repositioned them multiple times i belive they may be incorrectly stamped by the case manufacturer

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:33 PM

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@oblique estuary go for a 2070 super then

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@little osprey not really. Wannabe see mine?

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 9:33 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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@calm crypt

calm crypt Dec 5, 2019, 9:33 PM

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ty

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Who is from give away

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:34 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/27WJyk

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 9:34 PM

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me but i actually like it here, gladi joined lol @little osprey

calm crypt Dec 5, 2019, 9:34 PM

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hm thats how i have it ThinkingEgg

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:34 PM

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@fierce mauve me too I came from the giveaway but I’m glad I found it

calm crypt Dec 5, 2019, 9:35 PM

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wait

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:35 PM

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@oblique estuary I would really suggest this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VhPgXL/rosewill-spectra-x-atx-mid-tower-case-spectra-x

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:35 PM

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@oblique estuary
-CPU cooler isnt that great. Just get a good aircooler
-Why x570? It's a waste of money if PCIe 4.0 isnt being used.
-RAM is bad. CL is too high
-SSD is overpriced
-case has bad airflow
-PSU is "meh". Missing some nice protections compared to some high end PSUs but overall not bad

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:35 PM

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it also comes with 4 fans as well

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:35 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bMzHGc
this is what i’m working on right now, i’m looking at getting a used 2060, and want to switch to amd. any suggestions?

calm crypt Dec 5, 2019, 9:35 PM

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@sudden turret the jfp2 on my board only has room for the speaker, would that be a problem?

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:35 PM

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other than a 2060 i was also considering a 1660 ti or super

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 9:36 PM

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nah

calm crypt Dec 5, 2019, 9:36 PM

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ok

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:36 PM

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so the 2070s is goingf to be better? but is it worth the price if 3000 series gpus are coming?

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 9:36 PM

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IF you can, send a close up of how you have it wires

calm crypt Dec 5, 2019, 9:36 PM

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yea i will

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 9:36 PM

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wired*

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:36 PM

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@little osprey Why Intel tho? AMD is just better overall

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:36 PM

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@cursive wharf I’m using Wraith Cooler LOL

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:36 PM

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and what ram should I look at then?

calm crypt Dec 5, 2019, 9:36 PM

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lol im just about to hop into the shower so could i send it in abt 10 mins

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:36 PM

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What CPU? @oblique estuary

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:36 PM

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i don’t know too much about amd, and as i said in the message that went with it i’m interested in switching over to it

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:36 PM

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I think there's a 3700x on that build list rn

calm crypt Dec 5, 2019, 9:36 PM

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also would you mind if i dm'd u for help @sudden turret

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 9:37 PM

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yeah go for it

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:37 PM

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@oblique estuary then go for 3200-3600MHz 16 gig DDR4

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:37 PM

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@cursive wharf The MasterLiquid is actually a pretty good cooler

calm crypt Dec 5, 2019, 9:37 PM

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alright tysm i really appreciate ti

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it

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:37 PM

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that's what I have?

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:37 PM

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@sudden turret you’re a mod so it trust you, any thoughts on this build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/27WJyk

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:37 PM

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@little osprey
-RAM is meh
-SSD is meh. SATA M2 is a waste of an M2 slot
-2080S is overpriced compared to 5700XT
-RGB fans are overpriced

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 9:37 PM

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I'd love to help but kinda overworked right now lol

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:37 PM

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if it was the 120mm model i would say it is bad

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:37 PM

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@sudden turret ur fine

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:38 PM

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@latent bronze It's okay. But good air coolers can perform better in noise normalized performance

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 9:38 PM

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I suggest higher mhz ram F/A

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Depends really and going for that would be a more silent build

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 9:39 PM

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remove that windows OEM

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lol

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Xmas Box, yeah, I know that was my mistake but it’s not worth reordering

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What’s OEM

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Lmfao

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 9:39 PM

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you can download windows installer.

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to usb

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Yeah I have it on a USB

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 9:39 PM

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install windows.

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:39 PM

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I have it activated on a USB

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Lol

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 9:39 PM

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then head to ebay and buy a key for 7-10 bucks

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 9:39 PM

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@silver meteor what hes saying is u bought windows tho

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on pc part picker

sudden turret Dec 5, 2019, 9:39 PM

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unless you have a win 7 key alreayd

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:39 PM

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@latent bronze noise normalized perf is better on good air coolers. Meaning air coolers would be quieter.

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:40 PM

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I have a win 10 key but I wanted to show that’s what I use. I didn’t buy it though

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 9:40 PM

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ahh

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:40 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/27WJyk
Can I record Fortnite on low settings 1080p and get a consistent 240 frames?

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Thank you guys

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 9:40 PM

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yes

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:41 PM

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Okay

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Bett l

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:41 PM

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@silver meteor what ram should I get the "G-Skill Trident Z" set thats on the list is 16gb@ 3600mhz

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:41 PM

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@cursive wharf I have seen the MasterLiquid in action at my local PC shop which they allow customers to play games on to test out and when i spoke with someone there they said it has been running from the store opening till closing for the past 6 months

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 9:41 PM

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you will get much much better than 240 on low lol

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:41 PM

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@oblique estuary that’ll be fine

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:41 PM

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someone said that its bad ram...

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:41 PM

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@fierce mauve 240 or unlimited but unlimited causes input delay

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:41 PM

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it is a very quiet cooler for the price

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:41 PM

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@oblique estuary well I mean it’s fine

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But you can go with anything really

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:41 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bMzHGc
this is what i’m working on right now, i’m looking at getting a used 2060, and want to switch to amd. any suggestions?

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:42 PM

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Oof no dedicated Gpu

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 9:42 PM

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@latent bronze how would you compare it to a h100x?

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:42 PM

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Feels bad

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:42 PM

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@latent bronze Im not saying its a bad cooler. I expect it to be decent. However compare it to a Windale 6, Thermal Right Macho Rev. B (I think is the name?), Scythe Mugen 5 (or 6, idk), etc

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:42 PM

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@cursive wharf why was my ram choice bad?

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:42 PM

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@latent bronze I put hei on block, its just easier than dealing with the elitism, ego and ability to assume he's never wrong.

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:42 PM

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@oblique estuary MHz to timing was bad

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:42 PM

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what does that mean?

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:42 PM

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read the comment i put with the link lmao obviously i’m not gonna go without a gpu

reef pivot Dec 5, 2019, 9:43 PM

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@little osprey I'd say a R3 2nd gen, 8 Gigs @3Ghz and the 1050 Ti that you have are more than enough for Light gaming, it should run 1080 at 60fps with Medium details no problem

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:43 PM

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think you got 3600Mhz or something, while it had CL18

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:43 PM

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Hei knows better than I do, take his/her/their advice

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:43 PM

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@fierce mauve Never seen that cooler in action so i can't comment on that

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:43 PM

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is that bad?

silver meteor Dec 5, 2019, 9:43 PM

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No gender assumptions lol

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:43 PM

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Given the price it was at, yeah

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:43 PM

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oh...

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rcomendations then?

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:43 PM

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mind you, did you have RGB?

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:44 PM

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the ram I currently have is, yes

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Cuz good and cheap 3600 RAM (which I think you had) doesnt have RGB

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Jess the case i linked before would be a better case overall

reef pivot Dec 5, 2019, 9:44 PM

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RGB = More fps

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:45 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gvkc

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is some decent 3600 RAM

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sadly no RGB tho

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 9:45 PM

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@latent bronze was gonna go with masterliquid ml240l but i noticed the h100x is around the same price but $20 more. u think is hould for that or just stick with masterliquid? (just asking bc u seen the masterliquid in action)

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:46 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bMzHGc
this is what i’m working on right now, i’m looking at getting a used 2060, and want to switch to amd. any suggestions?

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:47 PM

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Personally if i was to go with a AIO in my system i would go for the MasterLiquid but the 240mm model

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 9:47 PM

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go for a 3600 if u want amd

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@latent bronze yeah thats what imma go for then. ty

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:47 PM

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np

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 9:48 PM

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3600 isnt the best you can get but its like the amd alternative to a 9600k in my opinion

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i also assume you dont wanna spend $300 on a cpu @little osprey

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:48 PM

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9600k is already starting to see bad 1% lows tho

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:48 PM

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they basically the same but the ryzen has lower speeds

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:48 PM

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due to the limited threads

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 9:49 PM

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ryzen has lower single thread which means its gonna be a lil worse for games, but not much. its gonna win out in everything else tho

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@little osprey

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:49 PM

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hmm okay

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because it’s gonna be mainly for games

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but literally everybody here has asked why i was using intel

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 9:50 PM

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thats because ryzen is better for the price. you can play games with like a 10 fps diff from the 9600k and get the increased performance for other things aswell

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:51 PM

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@little osprey Also that case got some bad airflow and that RAM is overpriced

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:51 PM

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Yeah my intel fanboyism died when the 3950X became available to me

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:51 PM

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so what timing is good for ram?

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:51 PM

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i know about the ram and thanks for letting be know about the case

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 9:51 PM

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yeah what he said too. i fu want rgb i think g.skill trident z is better

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:51 PM

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I believe 16CL is good for 3600mhz ram.

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:51 PM

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^

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:51 PM

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what does that mean?

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:51 PM

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i was gonna get the g.skill one but it’s like 1 month shipping

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:51 PM

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Clock latency

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My brain just suicided there.

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:52 PM

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CL is CAS latency

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:52 PM

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so i may just go for the corsair to save the month

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 9:52 PM

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@little osprey try diff vendors?

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:52 PM

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rather than keeping the like $20

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:52 PM

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There are of course many other timings

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 9:52 PM

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amazon is like $6 more than newegg i think but you can get prime shipping

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Newegg doesnt pick even remotely close to the cheapest of each part for me in the UK.

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:52 PM

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@little osprey You can save like $40 for going with non RGB RAM of the same perf

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:53 PM

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I find it a bit odd.

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:53 PM

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yeah but

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rgb

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:53 PM

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$70 for 3600MHz CL16 RAM which is a decent bit better than 3200MHz CL16. Not like you'd see the perf differences much tho

blissful bear Dec 5, 2019, 9:53 PM

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cant not have rgb

void condor Dec 5, 2019, 9:54 PM

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@safe whale What's your GPU?

elder garden Dec 5, 2019, 9:54 PM

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more frames =/ better gaming experience per say. Intel does ditch out more FPS compared to AMD chips (by a little), but y'all are forgetting about the new L3 cash in 3rd gen AMD chips optimized for better gaming performance and lower latency while playing games.

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Cache*

stiff adder Dec 5, 2019, 9:54 PM

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@safe whale thanks, is that the h510?

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:54 PM

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also... 1% lows @elder garden

elder garden Dec 5, 2019, 9:54 PM

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exactly

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:54 PM

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so what is the benefit of going 470 vs 570 for mobo?

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:55 PM

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so i should switch to the 3600??

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:55 PM

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PCIe 4.0

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 9:55 PM

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^

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:55 PM

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@little osprey I'd say R5 3600 tbh

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:55 PM

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In your build, theres no benefit for going for the more expensive 570 over 470

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:55 PM

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that’s what i was thinking of

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:55 PM

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For the 3600 it can be better than the 9600K when it comes to more games and tasks that requires more than 6 cores

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:55 PM

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is PCIe 4.0 a big deal?

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 9:55 PM

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honestly if your not using pcie 4.0 i think a b450 mobo still works perfectly

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:55 PM

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which is why it is nice to have those 12 threads

elder garden Dec 5, 2019, 9:55 PM

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I agreed with Hei @little osprey the value of 3rd generation AMD chips is too high to be ignored like that

void condor Dec 5, 2019, 9:56 PM

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What decent AMD CPU should I go for now I don't need my 2200g?

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:56 PM

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@oblique estuary big deal for people who use drives real heavily, like with a 4.0 NVMe

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 9:56 PM

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3600

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@void condor

elder garden Dec 5, 2019, 9:56 PM

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3600 value king

tight bluff Dec 5, 2019, 9:56 PM

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B450 lacks VRM doesn't it?

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:56 PM

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for what CPU @tight bluff

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:56 PM

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huh. How much is coming down the pipeline trhat will be 4.0?

void condor Dec 5, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Thanks

stiff adder Dec 5, 2019, 9:56 PM

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@oblique estuary you get ryzen 3rd gen compatability and pcie gen 4 capabilities

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:56 PM

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oh yes 100% switching to the r5 3600 bc it can utilize 3200 ram compared to the 9600k which can only use 2666

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:56 PM

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on a 3600 B450 is fine

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 9:56 PM

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yeah but if your matx the only matx x570 mobo is expensive af compared to a msi b450m max

median lodge Dec 5, 2019, 9:57 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2MTsXv thoughts on my build I already have the motherboard cpu cooler and mouse I just ordered the monitor

elder garden Dec 5, 2019, 9:57 PM

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the sweet spot for RAM using AMD boards is 3600MHz @little osprey , but going from 2666 on an intel board to 3200 will be a huge jump for you anyways

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at least you'll get what you are paying for lol

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:58 PM

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Right now if you are planning on going for the 3000 series you have this option before B550 becomes a thing https://i.gyazo.com/781e3bce5d21f17f1eaedde4dd912c5b.png

stiff adder Dec 5, 2019, 9:58 PM

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@cursive wharf yeah, its only a 65w tdp soyour vrms will be fine

void condor Dec 5, 2019, 9:58 PM

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Is going from 2666 to 3200 worth it in AMD?

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 9:58 PM

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Those Max boards from MSI are 3000 ready

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:58 PM

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yeah i’m just sure that with amd a cpu that can run 3600 will be too expensive for me

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correct me if i’m wrong

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 9:58 PM

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if your matx and gonna go ryzen 3000 this is what im upgrading to https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8RtkJb

elder garden Dec 5, 2019, 9:58 PM

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any 3rd gen amd chip can run 3600Mhz

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 9:58 PM

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And you say that the Gaming plus is the one to go for?

elder garden Dec 5, 2019, 9:58 PM

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@little osprey

safe whale Dec 5, 2019, 9:59 PM

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@void condor 1050ti :'((

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:59 PM

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oh i checked for 3600 and it said only up to 3200

safe whale Dec 5, 2019, 9:59 PM

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@stiff adder sure is!

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:59 PM

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@little osprey You looked at the mobo?

elder garden Dec 5, 2019, 9:59 PM

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for which board ?

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:59 PM

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or the CPU?

void condor Dec 5, 2019, 9:59 PM

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I gots a 1660

elder garden Dec 5, 2019, 9:59 PM

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the motherboard is limiting you in that way, the CPU not as much

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:59 PM

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the cpu on amd website say only 3200

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 9:59 PM

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The IMC (Integrated memory controller) is located on the CPU. So memory speeds is mainly limited by the CPU

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 9:59 PM

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https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-5-3600

stiff adder Dec 5, 2019, 10:00 PM

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@median lodge its a nice build but id go with ryzen. if you want my full opinion dm me.

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 10:00 PM

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plus that is what AMD guarantees. Past 3200MHz AMD would consider an OC

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 10:00 PM

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The GTX 1660 is a great card for 1080p gaming

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 10:00 PM

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okay so it could technically run 3600

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 10:00 PM

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i know i have one

elder garden Dec 5, 2019, 10:00 PM

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but many have found out that 3600Mhz is the sweet spot

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yes santa

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 10:01 PM

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now i just need to find a board for it

safe whale Dec 5, 2019, 10:01 PM

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@void condor I have a ryzen 7 1700 and it preforms relatively well. I'd recommend a 7 3700x if you dont mind 8 cores and can shell out like 330 usd

elder garden Dec 5, 2019, 10:01 PM

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let me find the graph for you santa

void condor Dec 5, 2019, 10:01 PM

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I'm using a TV so I can only do 1080p 60hz

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 10:01 PM

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and also for gpu 1660 or 2060

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because i’m looking at a used 2060

elder garden Dec 5, 2019, 10:01 PM

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@little osprey

📎 Ryzen-Latency.png

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 10:01 PM

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say i got a mobo that has 3733 and 3466 ram speed support, ill be spaghetti sauce with 3600 ram right?

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 10:01 PM

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@void condor you would want to replace to a monitor

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 10:02 PM

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so is MSI the only mobo available that is pre cooked ready for r3000?

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 10:02 PM

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if you are playing casual games a TV is fine but the second you start playing competitive games you would want to use a monitor

elder garden Dec 5, 2019, 10:02 PM

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nothing wrong with buying used graphics cards, if you can find a good deal, the 2060 is a great card @little osprey especially if you are only looking to game at 1080p or even 1440p resolution

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 10:03 PM

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@oblique estuary well the only guaranteed. you could get b450 mobo but it may or may not be updated to the new bios

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 10:03 PM

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So far yes for what i know for the B450 series

elder garden Dec 5, 2019, 10:03 PM

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yeah it's only the tomahawk max

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from MSI

void condor Dec 5, 2019, 10:03 PM

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@latent bronze I do, but I don't have money

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 10:03 PM

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any mobo with MAX at the end by msi works with ryzen 3000 out of the box

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 10:03 PM

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@elder garden Not only the Tomahawk

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https://i.gyazo.com/781e3bce5d21f17f1eaedde4dd912c5b.png you can see all the Max here

elder garden Dec 5, 2019, 10:03 PM

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oh, are there new ones out already?

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oh sweet

calm goblet Dec 5, 2019, 10:03 PM

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450 tom max is the most versatile mobo ive seen

stiff adder Dec 5, 2019, 10:03 PM

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@oblique estuary @fierce mauve all b450 MAX are 3000 ready.

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 10:04 PM

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@stiff adder ik i just said it lol

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 10:04 PM

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yeah i’m looking at a 2060 for ~250 rn, i would go with the unused 2080 that my friend is selling for 450 but i can’t afford that

void condor Dec 5, 2019, 10:04 PM

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I have the b450m ds3h

stiff adder Dec 5, 2019, 10:04 PM

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oh

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 10:04 PM

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wait, so if my ram speed 3600 and mobo is 3733 ill be gucci right?

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 10:04 PM

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@little osprey I mean new 5700XT is $400 for close to same perf as 2080 so that 2080 is kinda a "meh" deal anyways

stiff adder Dec 5, 2019, 10:04 PM

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@void condor i used that boared twice for friends and it was great

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 10:05 PM

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@void condor When you have the money you can go for something like this https://www.newegg.com/p/0JC-0015-00440

elder garden Dec 5, 2019, 10:05 PM

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I would go for the 2060, considering you are probably only doing 1080p gaming @little osprey

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2080 is really overkill for your use cases

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 10:05 PM

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for 1080p gaming would go for the 1660 Super instead

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 10:05 PM

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yeah i don’t plan on getting the 2080

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 10:05 PM

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if your going for a 2060, rx 5700xt is a better deal, no?

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 10:06 PM

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used 2060 from what I can gather

stiff adder Dec 5, 2019, 10:06 PM

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the 1660 super is a beast for the price.

void condor Dec 5, 2019, 10:06 PM

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@stiff adder Works perfect for me, loads of usbs on the back which is nice, only problemis the lack of fan headers which isn't that bad due to thee ability to daisy chain

elder garden Dec 5, 2019, 10:06 PM

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but he is getting a used 2060 for much less money @latent bronze

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 10:06 PM

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ahh

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 10:06 PM

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if i can’t get the 2060 used for the price i want i’m gonna go for 1660 super or ti

elder garden Dec 5, 2019, 10:06 PM

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used graphics cards aren't bad

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 10:06 PM

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1660S

stone nest Dec 5, 2019, 10:06 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DGcygJ do I need to change anything? I cant go over $1300 USD

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 10:06 PM

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1660Ti is just a 1660S but more expensive

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 10:06 PM

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I would say 1660 Super instead of Ti

stiff adder Dec 5, 2019, 10:06 PM

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@void condor yeah i had to buy fan hubs/splitter for them

elder garden Dec 5, 2019, 10:06 PM

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1660Super has GDDR6 memory guys

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don't forget that

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TI doesn't

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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@stone nest MSI x570 isnt that great

elder garden Dec 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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deal breaker for me

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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Hei the 1660 Ti still does give more performance than the 1660 Super

stone nest Dec 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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What is a better idea Hei?

void condor Dec 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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@latent bronze looks amazing and only £140

stone nest Dec 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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it has best bios

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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@latent bronze by about 1% tho

ashen vapor Dec 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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.

void condor Dec 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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I say looks, the specs for price that is

elder garden Dec 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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it does, but not worth the price diff IMO, and if you plan on streaming the faster memory is nice to have

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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Well for a lot of recent tests i have seen 10 fps to 15 fps more seems more than 1%

stiff adder Dec 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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@cursive wharf the super has newer gddr6 where the ti has gddr5. the preformance is basiccaly the same for less

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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I only see msi boards labeled as max

void condor Dec 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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I got my 1660 under a week before the super was rumored

stiff adder Dec 5, 2019, 10:08 PM

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sad

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 10:08 PM

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I got my 1660 in like the start of August

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 10:08 PM

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for a 3600 what chipset do i need

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 10:08 PM

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but i have no regrets so

stiff adder Dec 5, 2019, 10:08 PM

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x570

stone nest Dec 5, 2019, 10:08 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DGcygJ

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 10:08 PM

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@latent bronze Well then if that's the case then good. Tho which games I wonder? Was it due to new drivers?

void condor Dec 5, 2019, 10:08 PM

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Me neither, and end of September I think it was

elder garden Dec 5, 2019, 10:08 PM

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yeah I was debating on either the TI or the Super variant of the 1660 card for a friend that streams a lot on twitch, and the Super variant having GDRR6 memory compared to the slower GDDR5 memory from last gen on the TI card was the selling point for me.

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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wai can someone answer my question? 3600 mhz ram work good with a mobo that doesnt have 3600 but 3733?

elder garden Dec 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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and they basically cost the same

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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So on my current build, i had an ssd

stiff adder Dec 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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@little osprey do you mean the r5 3600 or 3600mhz ram

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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r5 3600

candid trellis Dec 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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I have a question for you guys. I am thinking about building a new pc. Should I go Intel or AMD?

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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But the computer crashed anytime it went to sleep

elder garden Dec 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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@fierce mauve

📎 Ryzen-Latency.png

void condor Dec 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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@candid trellis AMD

stone nest Dec 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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AMD @candid trellis

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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@cursive wharf i capped this like 2 days ago from a video i watched that was a couple weeks old https://i.gyazo.com/d34f3c2a54f79f4d7f4b32a26c3d5df9.jpg

stiff adder Dec 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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yeah x570 or b450 max @little osprey

cursive wharf Dec 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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@stone nest MSI x570 is meh. In generally x570 is a waste of money to most people. RAM is overpriced.

void condor Dec 5, 2019, 10:10 PM

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I went AMD purely for price, then all the new processors and things happened

fierce mauve Dec 5, 2019, 10:10 PM

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@elder garden no im asking bc my mobo doesnt say it supports 3600hmzram it says it supports 3733, but im getting 3600 ram

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 10:10 PM

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The ssd was powering down when computer went into sleep mode and wouldnt power back up without rebooting

latent bronze Dec 5, 2019, 10:10 PM

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Battlefield 5 is where you see the difference really

little osprey Dec 5, 2019, 10:10 PM

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alright thanks

stone nest Dec 5, 2019, 10:10 PM

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its not overpriced ram. And im not getting RGB. its CL16 at 3200mhz

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it aint overpriced

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I mean

stiff adder Dec 5, 2019, 10:10 PM

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@void condor also the extra cores

stone nest Dec 5, 2019, 10:10 PM

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I am getting rgb*

oblique estuary Dec 5, 2019, 10:10 PM

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Is that an ssd prob? Or settings? Something else?