#building-and-recc-chat | Newegg | Page 418

little osprey Nov 20, 2019, 5:16 PM

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i think that's a dramatic oversimplification

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saying "you just need better than recommended"

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There's a lot of data missing here, I don't want people to get the wrong idea lol

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it's not wrong, but it's also not telling anywhere near the full story

tidal bluff Nov 20, 2019, 5:18 PM

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pretty sure my 1700x is way faster than a 4th gen i5 lol

latent bronze Nov 20, 2019, 5:19 PM

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You know the funny thing is my 2600 is 3% better than your 1700x lol

little osprey Nov 20, 2019, 5:20 PM

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define faster

austere condor Nov 20, 2019, 5:21 PM

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single core

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1700x absolutely bodies a 2600 and any 4th gen in multi

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but, 1st gen wasnt really known for their single core performance

little osprey Nov 20, 2019, 5:22 PM

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1700x absolutely bodies a 2600 and any 4th gen in multi << this

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But also, even a 2nd gen i5 (2500k) oc'd to 5.0 can wreck in many use cases

austere condor Nov 20, 2019, 5:22 PM

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i think stock 1st gen ryzen is about on par with stock 6th gen intel IPC, yeah?

little osprey Nov 20, 2019, 5:25 PM

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Idk, hard to compare IPC as people usually do - I'd instead look at what real performance one can expect out of running x chip at y settings/environment based on preference and use case

austere condor Nov 20, 2019, 5:26 PM

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well, just general perfomrance of like, a R5 1600 gets about the same gaming perfomrance as something like an i5 6500

little osprey Nov 20, 2019, 5:26 PM

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i'd say that's reasonably accurate in my experience

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my friend with a 1700 was seeing similar FPS to me with my old 6700k

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i think? he had a 1700, i would have to double check

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True - the exceptions being rare cases of users who want to run fast XMP/OC memory

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same GPU at the time

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Also 6th gen is the last intel chips that can bclk non-k models >103 MHz

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(which makes them overpriced used to casual consumers sometimes)

austere condor Nov 20, 2019, 5:28 PM

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oh really? i had an i5 6500 on a Z170 board

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sold it the other day

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could have OC'ed it

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XD

little osprey Nov 20, 2019, 5:28 PM

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7th gen is worse - I have no idea how a 7700k usd can be worth $225 easy, sometimes 250 on ebay

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Lol ya - I forgot you actually did @ me about that somewhere - I had mentioned 6th gen at the time due to one of the hwbot country cup benches being reference clock / cpu

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i bet it's just cuz a lot of people don't cross shop, and someone told them "hey go get this part because it'll be cheap" and just trusted them at their word

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and maybe sometimes people don't even bother checking what they can get that's brand new for not much more

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just thinking because it's used they're automatically going to be saving a lot of money compared to buying new

tidal bluff Nov 20, 2019, 5:32 PM

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@latent bronze mines overclocked to 3.9ghz regular its 3ghz so probably not

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i had a i5 7600k overclocked to 5ghz and my 1700x at 3.9ghz is definately faster i can tell the difference. my games dont even use half my cpu

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plus my i5 was just a 4 core 4 thread

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im saving up for and waiting on intel 10 gen ill buy a i7 of that one

little osprey Nov 20, 2019, 5:38 PM

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9th gen stuff is going to look really compelling when 10th gen comes out tbh

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i don't expect 10th gen to be some huge generational leap in performance, and when it releases 9th gen will drop in price

austere condor Nov 20, 2019, 5:39 PM

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intel has never really dropped their prices

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unless youre buying 2nd hand used

little osprey Nov 20, 2019, 5:40 PM

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not significantly, sure

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not like AMD has been doing

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yeah that is more of what i was getting at

austere condor Nov 20, 2019, 5:40 PM

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cause you can still go to amazon/newegg and buy a 7700k for $300+

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XD

little osprey Nov 20, 2019, 5:40 PM

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lulwut

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no, you were not being hyperbolic

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they are over $300

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7700k @ $315, 9700k @ $339

austere condor Nov 20, 2019, 5:42 PM

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yeah, like i said, you can still go buy new 7700k's for $300+, intel doesnt drop their prices on parts or tell resellers to drop their prices after a new launch

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like with the i5 8400

little osprey Nov 20, 2019, 5:42 PM

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i guess when it's pretty much the same silicon

austere condor Nov 20, 2019, 5:43 PM

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with the i5 8400, they didnt drop the price on the new ones, but they released the i5 9400f, and it was a lower price

little osprey Nov 20, 2019, 5:44 PM

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i hadn't really looked in some time

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i just recall that when i was looking at my 6700k, microcenter was having blowout sales on haswell cpus

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and i was really compelled to get one but didn't end up doing it

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guess i extrapolated that too far lol

little osprey Nov 20, 2019, 6:32 PM

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😢 I just got an E-mail from RaidMax an my tower is Discontinued 😢

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Alright ya I need a Idea for a whole new Case an it has to be a ATX Mid tower.

polar holly Nov 20, 2019, 6:48 PM

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What type of cooling you looking to do @little osprey

little osprey Nov 20, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Give me a Sec

little osprey Nov 20, 2019, 7:05 PM

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@polar holly https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B2fCzN

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I would like the same as the case I have but I cant find any an to get a New Case its gonna be a tight budget due to X-Mas coming up

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@polar holly I was looking at this but im not sure --> https://www.newegg.com/black-raidmax-vortex-v4-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811156317

polar holly Nov 20, 2019, 7:52 PM

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whats wrong with your current case

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 2:16 AM

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@polar holly There is a Cunk that was broken off the front an the top right side where my Liquid Cooling is at is missing a pin to hold the top in place an is making the power button not work right

stark meteor Nov 21, 2019, 2:16 AM

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Reaper, what is the reasoning for the radeon GPU?

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Just wondering

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 2:18 AM

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For the New DOOM an Fable HD an i will not mess with intel GPU at all cause in the past i have blown through 13 chip set's

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So I will only go for AMD

stark meteor Nov 21, 2019, 2:19 AM

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I was thinking a ryzen but makes sense if you want to avoid ryzen aswell

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 2:19 AM

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ryzen is a AMD

stark meteor Nov 21, 2019, 2:20 AM

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I know, but ryzen is just so much faster for cheaper

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I think 2600 is 117 right now

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 2:20 AM

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An pluse I cant afford it

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it took me a lil over 5 years to save up for my PC 😦

stark meteor Nov 21, 2019, 2:20 AM

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Oof

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But the gpu I have another question

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 2:21 AM

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I really hate being on a budget

stark meteor Nov 21, 2019, 2:21 AM

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Why not go with an nvidia 1660 super? It's only 229

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Are u getting it second hand?

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 2:22 AM

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What you mean secound Hand

stark meteor Nov 21, 2019, 2:22 AM

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Are you buying it used from someone

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 2:22 AM

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No I brought my AMD NEW

stark meteor Nov 21, 2019, 2:22 AM

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No the graphics card

gaunt fiber Nov 21, 2019, 2:23 AM

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I have a 2600

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 2:23 AM

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No its was NEW I paid full price

stark meteor Nov 21, 2019, 2:24 AM

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Did u build ur pc already?

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That would make a lot of sense if u did, I thought u were going to build one

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 2:25 AM

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@stark meteor ---> https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B2fCzN these are my Parts I have an they where all new when I brought them

stark meteor Nov 21, 2019, 2:25 AM

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Yeah I thought you didnt have any of the parts and were going to buy them

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My bad

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Kinda confused things up

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 2:26 AM

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LOL its all good it wont let me change them to brough

weak glacier Nov 21, 2019, 6:52 AM

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📎 IMG_20191121_014554.jpg 📎 IMG_20191121_014336.jpg

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@latent bronze

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There's 3 of the top pic

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I can't seem to find anywhere they'd rationally for

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Fit

latent bronze Nov 21, 2019, 6:52 AM

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What is on the other end of that

weak glacier Nov 21, 2019, 6:53 AM

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Idk, it's run through the whole case

latent bronze Nov 21, 2019, 6:53 AM

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one is Sata and the other is a fan header

weak glacier Nov 21, 2019, 6:53 AM

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my friend gave me the case with some cable management pre done

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ohh ok

gaunt fiber Nov 21, 2019, 6:54 AM

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hey i was sitting here looking and i got the sata right!

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lmao

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im learning 😂

worthy terrace Nov 21, 2019, 6:55 AM

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@latent bronze can you send me build without speakers

latent bronze Nov 21, 2019, 6:55 AM

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/mY9QDx

worthy terrace Nov 21, 2019, 6:55 AM

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Tyry

weak glacier Nov 21, 2019, 6:55 AM

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I don't even need the fan header then

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I think both cables are all connected lol

latent bronze Nov 21, 2019, 6:56 AM

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Monitor would be good for you cause 144hz is what most gamers would want

weak glacier Nov 21, 2019, 6:56 AM

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Ok so I think I can just tuck them away

latent bronze Nov 21, 2019, 6:56 AM

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Joe in every system there will always be some extra cables laying around

weak glacier Nov 21, 2019, 6:56 AM

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Since both fans I have installed are already plugged into the mobo

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Yeah just confused bc my friend gave me the case like this

latent bronze Nov 21, 2019, 7:01 AM

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@worthy terrace Just letting you know for Nvidia video cards it is usually better to go with EVGA

worthy terrace Nov 21, 2019, 7:01 AM

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Okiee

latent bronze Nov 21, 2019, 7:01 AM

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which is why i included it in the build

worthy terrace Nov 21, 2019, 7:01 AM

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How do i get a pc that lights up

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My bf has one

latent bronze Nov 21, 2019, 7:01 AM

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RGB strips or RGB fans

worthy terrace Nov 21, 2019, 7:02 AM

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📎 image0.jpg

latent bronze Nov 21, 2019, 7:02 AM

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that system is using RGB light strips

worthy terrace Nov 21, 2019, 7:02 AM

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Ohh okay

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It changes colours

latent bronze Nov 21, 2019, 7:05 AM

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@worthy terrace This is how you can one up on your boyfriend https://www.newegg.ca/rosewill-rgbf-s12003-case-fan/p/N82E16835200126

worthy terrace Nov 21, 2019, 7:08 AM

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Ooooo

latent bronze Nov 21, 2019, 7:08 AM

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Ill show you what those fans are like

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📎 ezgif-2-ef773efedd6c.gif

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You can do solid colors as well but that is just to make it all flashy

sage hinge Nov 21, 2019, 7:09 AM

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Nice

worthy terrace Nov 21, 2019, 7:10 AM

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Ooo

latent bronze Nov 21, 2019, 7:11 AM

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For those fans you can see from the link there is a controller to control the fan speeds and also the colors

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 1:34 PM

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anyone have time to talk to me about rig building? i need to build 2 rigs, one for gaming and one for rendering

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if you have time, dm me

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 4:18 PM

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just ask here

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 4:38 PM

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i rather talk to someone through DMs cause i dont want to flood the chat with loads of questions

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 4:40 PM

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that's literally what it's here for lol

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 4:44 PM

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sigh i know i just hate being annoying

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 4:46 PM

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lol

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ask away

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 4:59 PM

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i, for one, will not be annoyed

latent jacinth Nov 21, 2019, 5:03 PM

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Anyone know why you would buy an EVGA G5 over a G+?

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📎 image0.png

tidal bluff Nov 21, 2019, 5:04 PM

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g5 is the new one

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so its most likely better

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i have the g3 and love it sofar

latent jacinth Nov 21, 2019, 5:08 PM

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After rebate the savings is only $5 anyway but I was curious

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:20 PM

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sigh alright ill ask. anyone know a good rig for both gaming and rendering but using gpu rendering. i dont want to spend like at least over 3k if at all possible.

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ok when i mean 3k i meant thats my cutoff line

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if i have to go over i can but i really dont want to lol

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:21 PM

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3k all in including monitors? or just 3k on the guts

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:21 PM

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just the parts

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:21 PM

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you can build a super nice rig for 3k.

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:21 PM

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yes

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:21 PM

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not the monitors etc

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:21 PM

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you really cfan lol

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:21 PM

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well parts also including case

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sorry let me rephrase

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:21 PM

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yeah

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no i gotcha now

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:21 PM

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3k just the PC.

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:21 PM

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correct

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but gpu rendering heavy for 3d software

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:22 PM

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unless you need intel for some reason, a 3950x is probably going to be your solid choice but i'll throw something together

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:22 PM

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isnt that cpu?

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:23 PM

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3950x is top dog right now

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:23 PM

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but what about being gpu rendering

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:23 PM

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we have just begun

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ill have something for you in a bit

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:23 PM

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sorry if i sound anoying i apologize

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:24 PM

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you're not being annoying

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:24 PM

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i ask sometiems to o many questions

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:24 PM

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Stop being so insecure lol

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:24 PM

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better to ask a lot of questions especially if you're spending three large

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:24 PM

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true

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:24 PM

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asking questions is learning.

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:24 PM

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im surprised i havent heard the saying only stupid question is the one not asked

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:25 PM

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man honestly it's overwhelming right now, especially for people who are just starting to dip their toes into building computers

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:25 PM

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only stupid questions are the ones not asked

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:25 PM

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thing is what i want to try to avoid with this next build is having dust problems

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:25 PM

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there, happy? :p

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:25 PM

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lol box

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i got a case i used that was NOT good for my dust situation in my house

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i lost a hybrid cooler cause of it

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had to replace it

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:26 PM

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you'll never avoid dust, but with the right case + filters.. it's easy to maintain.

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you lost the hybrid cooler cause you didn't maintain it 😛

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:26 PM

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im also moving my computer over to a room with hard wood floor

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true

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i probably didnt take good care of it

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:27 PM

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I usually dust my computers once a month

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using a compressor with low psi.,

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:27 PM

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what about maintanance?

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:27 PM

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poop, i pull mine apart once a week and hit it with duster

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i am sure my walmart thinks i'm

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walking on sunshine

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oops

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:27 PM

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yeah that much cleaning better to invest in a small compressor

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can of air expensive,.

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:28 PM

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how many times should i do maintenance on it box?

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:28 PM

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i buy in bulk

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:28 PM

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depends on how dusty it is.

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:28 PM

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what do you mean "maintenance?" dust it whenever you see dust building up

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:28 PM

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if you have tempered glass, you can see it start building up

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😄

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:28 PM

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i know that

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:28 PM

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they're pretty maintenance free

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:28 PM

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i mean like making sure things are kept in good shape

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ie if i get liquid cooling

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as an example

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:29 PM

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just visible check the Radiators

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make sure the fins are caked/clogged

tidal bluff Nov 21, 2019, 5:29 PM

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just get you something electric https://www.newegg.com/white-metrovac-datavac-electric-duster/p/N82E16896367002?Description=electric duster&cm_re=electric_duster-_-96-367-002-_-Product

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:29 PM

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arent*

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:29 PM

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NO do not do that please

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:29 PM

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i have a air compressor

tidal bluff Nov 21, 2019, 5:29 PM

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electric duster just as good as can

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:29 PM

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i have a small one so im good on that

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:29 PM

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82 dollars ? hahaha

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:29 PM

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you don't want that near your computer lol

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:29 PM

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i just need to clean it more than i have

tidal bluff Nov 21, 2019, 5:29 PM

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o please

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:29 PM

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air compressor best way.

tidal bluff Nov 21, 2019, 5:29 PM

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say jayz 2 cents isnt a good computer guy huh?

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he uses one

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:30 PM

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neat

tidal bluff Nov 21, 2019, 5:30 PM

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ive used one for over a year no issues

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even has a extension nozzle

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:30 PM

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just make sure you have something to keep the fans from spinning, you don't want to overspin them, especially the psu

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:30 PM

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when i clean yeah

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i was told that by a buddy of mine

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cause it could overload the psu being not on

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:31 PM

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so do you have a color scheme in your room you're trying to not conflict with?

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:31 PM

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so i try to keep them still while i clean

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or i unhook the cables

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so they dont use on the psu

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:31 PM

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cuz let's find you a nice case too lol

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:31 PM

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honestly for case

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i just need something that is better for taking care of dust

tidal bluff Nov 21, 2019, 5:31 PM

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i usually hold the fanblade with one hand while i air blow around them so they dont spin

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:31 PM

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this one i have wasnt a good choice

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:32 PM

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what do you have now

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:32 PM

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its a corsair cube case

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it wasnt a good choice. it only had One filter

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and even that wasnt doing good

latent bronze Nov 21, 2019, 5:32 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147298 I use this and i have no dust issues and i am also a smoker

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:32 PM

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im hoping moving this to the wood floor room will help

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cause im in a room with carpeting

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:33 PM

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eh

latent bronze Nov 21, 2019, 5:33 PM

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dust filter is under the case as well

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:33 PM

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which is usually bad for a pc with dust problems

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:33 PM

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wood floor be worst I would think

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lol

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easier to clean though

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:33 PM

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but if i put it off the floor

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it should help

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:33 PM

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can confirm, my pc was worse downstairs on hardwood than it is upstairs on carpet

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:33 PM

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right now the dang pc is on the carpet

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:33 PM

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eeh

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:33 PM

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yeah

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i know

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:34 PM

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hardwood collects a lot :p

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:34 PM

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sigh

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so it may not be a good idea your saying

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:34 PM

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which is easier to move around and get sucked in

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well nah

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:34 PM

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it's fine, just not the most ideal

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:34 PM

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just clean your floors often 🙂

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lol

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:34 PM

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well its easier than carpeting

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:34 PM

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I'm on hardfloor, but my pc sits on a end table

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:34 PM

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like, i prefer hardwood for everything other than the fact it's really dusty

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:34 PM

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getting dush off of carpet is a PITA

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:34 PM

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so it aint sitting directly on the floor.

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:34 PM

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where's your dyson bro?

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lol

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:35 PM

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yeah im going to get a step stool

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to put it on

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or a small end table

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:35 PM

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if you house that dusty

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you are the problem not dust 😛

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lol

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gets to cleaning!

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:35 PM

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i have been trying to help clean

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its jsut a losing battle

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lol

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:35 PM

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yep

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especially with pets.

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:36 PM

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yeah i got 2 dogs

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:36 PM

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lol

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:36 PM

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that dont help matters lol

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:36 PM

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I have one.

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:36 PM

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how do you feel about rgb gohan?

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indifferent?

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:36 PM

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uhh i dont mind it

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:36 PM

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lights on or off

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basically is what he is asking

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:36 PM

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well i am just trying to choose ram for him lol

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dunno if he wants bling or nah

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:36 PM

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it dont matter

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i have rgb in this current build

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:37 PM

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assume for 3k you can make it function well, and look nice.

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:37 PM

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lol

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i was told by someone in this discord when he asked why 2 rigs, i was getting tired of wear and tear but he mentioned if i take good care of it, use good virus protection and clean drives once a month or whatever, having one rig for gaming and rendering isnt bad

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he just said make sure you have big drives for storage

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lol

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i know the one drive that is in this current build is getting retired. its like 5+ years old

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its a 4tb drive but its on its last leg i bet

latent bronze Nov 21, 2019, 5:40 PM

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That almost sounds like zack's advice 🤔

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:40 PM

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well i game quite a bit but the main problem with storage is all the 3d files

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some can get pretty big

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i mean like not HUGE but if you have many, the numbers start adding up

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i may invest in an external hard drive too

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that way my files are not just on my pc but kept somewhere else too

latent bronze Nov 21, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Would be cheaper getting this https://www.newegg.com/rosewill-rx234-dock/p/N82E16817182145

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can easy swap out hard drives than using like a lot of externals

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:43 PM

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oo nice

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thanks for showing that to me ecks

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:43 PM

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not necessary, you will have way more than enough room to put as many SSDs as you will ever need inside

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:43 PM

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lol

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ill wishlist it just in case

latent bronze Nov 21, 2019, 5:44 PM

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Yes but if he is just backing up files you wouldn't need more SSD's if it is just backing up

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:45 PM

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yeah for 3d work i like to have backup files

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:45 PM

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i'd imagine it would be way easier and convenient to just use cloud storage...

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:45 PM

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just in case my work doesnt get lost

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true

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i can try that too

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:46 PM

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if you do that for work, your employer will probably want you to have backups in their cloud anyway

latent bronze Nov 21, 2019, 5:46 PM

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I have a bunch of hard drives which i back up all of my files and also if something was to happen like a power outage or something like the internet went down how will he get his files back if on the cloud

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 5:46 PM

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it's just a solution looking for a problem, if you're swapping out drives all the time then yeah it makes sense but

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:47 PM

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trust me im also going to invest in an UBS

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how big of one, i dont know yet

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 5:47 PM

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YUGE

latent bronze Nov 21, 2019, 5:47 PM

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If also using 2.5" drives you could have this for bringing into work https://www.newegg.com/orico-2139u3-bk-enclosure/p/0VN-0003-000Z5

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:48 PM

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that one is out of stock but ill try to look for one like it

latent bronze Nov 21, 2019, 5:48 PM

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I am mainly just dropping examples of what to look for

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:48 PM

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oh ok

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gotcha

latent bronze Nov 21, 2019, 5:50 PM

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But i need one of those docks because i have a lot of hard drives i use for backing up and i am also using like a ghetto like dock which is just an enclosure without the casing

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Something like this without the case https://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductImageCompressAll1280/A90R_1_20170504791922974.jpg

odd urchin Nov 21, 2019, 5:51 PM

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gotcha

old charm Nov 21, 2019, 6:27 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
So I'm looking to replace the video card on my list. Any suggestions?

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 6:27 PM

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that's not what you need to link

old charm Nov 21, 2019, 6:29 PM

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huh?

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 6:29 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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link that

still roostBOT Nov 21, 2019, 6:30 PM

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SouthPawPad#1296 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

old charm Nov 21, 2019, 6:31 PM

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lol wow

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okay, try this

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DrwNQq

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 6:32 PM

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i would get a different cooler, and if you haven't bought that monitor yet, don't

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don't bother getting a 60hz panel with that card

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what do you want to do with the video card? get a better one? find a cheaper 5700xt?

old charm Nov 21, 2019, 6:34 PM

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i heard that specific one has a tendancy to overheat so i figured I should get one that runs cooler

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 6:36 PM

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that one actually comes pretty highly recommended from some people i trust pretty highly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQJCm7bnOfU

YouTube

Gamers Nexus

Sapphire RX 5700 XT Pulse Review: Thermals, Noise, & Overclocking

Sapphire's RX 5700 XT Pulse is significantly improved over the reference card. We'll bench temperatures, noise levels, and gaming. Sponsor: Go to https://Nor...

▶ Play video

old charm Nov 21, 2019, 6:37 PM

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is this the same one? Someone in here linked me this and told me not to go with ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJU8jKIYtS4

YouTube

Hardware Unboxed

Worst 5700 XT Period, Asus TUF Gaming X3 RX 5700 XT OC, DON'T BUY!

Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/hardwareunboxed Merch: http://crowdmade.com/hardwareunboxed Radeon RX 5700 XT - https://amzn.to/2Js33xB Radeon...

▶ Play video

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 6:38 PM

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no, the video card you sent me on that list is the sapphire pulse

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the motherboard in the list you sent me above is an asus TUF motherboard

old charm Nov 21, 2019, 6:39 PM

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so in your opinion does that build look fine then?

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 6:40 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/no-wack-not-funny-hannibul-gif-5760013

Tenor

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uh

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i meant the cooler is wack

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and i presume you have that monitor on that list because it's the monitor you already have?

old charm Nov 21, 2019, 6:40 PM

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okay

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I techincally have a tv i was gonna use but Ican always just run out and buy one

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it's not a priority for me atm

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 6:41 PM

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that video card will be wasting a lot of its strength if you're not using a high refresh rate monitor

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if you're not going to do that, or don't want to bother, then you're spending a lot of money you won't be using

old charm Nov 21, 2019, 6:42 PM

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so i should get a different monitor too then?

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 6:42 PM

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i would do that, or get a less powerful video card

old charm Nov 21, 2019, 6:42 PM

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do you have monitor/cooler reccommendations?

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 6:43 PM

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what's your total budget all in and i'll go off that

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including a monitor

old charm Nov 21, 2019, 6:44 PM

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I don't know if I'd go above 2k

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 6:44 PM

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ok let me see what i can whip up

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i'll get back to you in an hour or two

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need lunch now

old charm Nov 21, 2019, 6:44 PM

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for sure

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Just use a pancake air compressor

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Just either use a air dryer or purge the condensate first

sudden turret Nov 21, 2019, 7:02 PM

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pff

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I have 20gal

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😉

old charm Nov 21, 2019, 9:44 PM

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@little osprey did you happen to take a look at that list?

tame crystal Nov 21, 2019, 9:56 PM

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So here is more or less everything I am looking at getting for my new comp. I know I can find some of these cheaper, but for simplicity sake I just used Newegg for all. Ideas? Suggestions?
PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mZ6gtp

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor ($553.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: *MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($203.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Black 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card ($449.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($142.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2350.87

deep skiff Nov 21, 2019, 9:56 PM

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that 3900x is about 10% higher than msrp

tame crystal Nov 21, 2019, 9:57 PM

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Yeah, I've found it as low as 500, but those were either in-store only prices or sold out online.

deep skiff Nov 21, 2019, 9:57 PM

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and i would just get a 1 tb 970 evo and maybe a 2 tb slightly cheaper nvme drive instead of 2 ssd'

tame crystal Nov 21, 2019, 9:59 PM

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Okay so 1 SSD and upgrade the nvme to a 2tb?

deep skiff Nov 21, 2019, 10:00 PM

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well i'd keep the 1 tb 970 evo, but replace the 860 evo's with a different drive

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idk much about ssd's @little osprey knows a lot

tame crystal Nov 21, 2019, 10:01 PM

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k

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Honestly, as long as my OS, OBS and such are on the nvme, having my games on a regular HD is not going to really affect anything right?

deep skiff Nov 21, 2019, 10:03 PM

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yeah, but ssd's are getting pretty cheap and much faster. its smart to get a large ssd

tame crystal Nov 21, 2019, 10:03 PM

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Okay. I think Newegg has a sale on the 860's a 2tb for 240 USD

deep skiff Nov 21, 2019, 10:04 PM

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yeah even that would be 40 less than buying 2 of the 1 tb ones

tame crystal Nov 21, 2019, 10:04 PM

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Yeah

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Oh, nice build, ya, I'd go 970 pro 's for new on ebay tbh. Better yet - go 280 GB 900p optane new $200-220.
Then pick up 970 evo's, SX8100's, or other similar equivalents for bulk storage and program drives.
Use wsusoffline + powershell /chocolatey scripts to install + maintain images and you're set

tame crystal Nov 21, 2019, 10:06 PM

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Okay, I am not computer illiterate, but you just hit a whole new level that I'm like "the hell did he say? Was that even English?" 😂

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 10:08 PM

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This is the best deal on ddr4 by $20 ... ever. I have a kit myself, worried how many I'll pick up before the sale ense. https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820313712

tame crystal Nov 21, 2019, 10:09 PM

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I already have the ram. Snagged it for 140 or 150, I'd have to check the invoice

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lol

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 10:12 PM

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I've posted that link like 4 times today, it's just a good deal. I don't plan to link hunt for the rest, nor do I expect people to take my picks as word of law lol.

deep skiff Nov 21, 2019, 10:13 PM

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look for R/W for read and write speed

tame crystal Nov 21, 2019, 10:15 PM

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kk

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gives me something to do when you have 6"+ of snow outside and it's still falling. lol

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So other than HD's the rest of the build looks good?

deep skiff Nov 21, 2019, 10:18 PM

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yeah, you could save some money with cheaper ram but u probably like the looks of it

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oh and one last thing, you can get windows keys for like $5-15 on tons of website, they work very well

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 10:19 PM

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Definitely bookmarking that, thanks, good reference to look up which drives are effecitvely clones, same controller, dram cache, etc

deep skiff Nov 21, 2019, 10:20 PM

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its NewMaxx's one, should be decent but its a month old so might need some changes

tame crystal Nov 21, 2019, 10:21 PM

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Definitely will.

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Yeah I like the looks of it. Not going too crazy with the RGB, just enough to give it some life. Instead of just being drab grey/black/monochrome

old charm Nov 21, 2019, 10:50 PM

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anyone have any reccommendations for a better cooler than this?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Nkvbt6/scythe-choten-tuf-gaming-alliance-5117-cfm-cpu-cooler-scct-1000tuf

deep skiff Nov 21, 2019, 10:50 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06ZYB8K77?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

old charm Nov 21, 2019, 10:51 PM

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do you know exactly why the one I had listed is so bad?

deep skiff Nov 21, 2019, 10:56 PM

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well its not bad, but they're are better ones out there

old charm Nov 21, 2019, 10:56 PM

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apparently I also need a "higher refresh rate" moniter

deep skiff Nov 21, 2019, 10:56 PM

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the one i liked has an option for a second fan, and a much larger fin area to help move the heat

old charm Nov 21, 2019, 10:57 PM

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okay sweet

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can you take a gander at my build overall? The things I was most worried about were the video card temperatures and the afforementioned monitor thing

deep skiff Nov 21, 2019, 10:58 PM

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and the one i liked has 4 more heatpipe if the pictures are correct (8v12)

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sure

old charm Nov 21, 2019, 10:58 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nDZ3Zf

deep skiff Nov 21, 2019, 10:59 PM

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why is the death adder $237?

old charm Nov 21, 2019, 11:00 PM

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I'm not sure tbh but I've already got a mouse and I was only really planning on picking up the keyborad out of all of those acsessories

deep skiff Nov 21, 2019, 11:00 PM

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oh ok

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q4gcTC i changed some things, and i'd recommend trying to see if you can find this on sale for around this price if you want a solid 1440p 144hz monitor https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/dz99u2/monitor_dell_27_gaming_monitor_s2719dgf_1440p_155/

[MONITOR] Dell 27 Gaming Monitor: S2719DGF 1440p 155 hz - $251.99 ...

Posted in r/buildapcsales by u/nimabears • 364 points and 96 comments

old charm Nov 21, 2019, 11:06 PM

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dang, saved me a fair bit, danke

deep skiff Nov 21, 2019, 11:06 PM

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yeah, i also removed the mouse so its like $240 cheaper than without it

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so it makes it look much more cheaper, but i did change some parts out

old charm Nov 21, 2019, 11:07 PM

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yeah I see. All the ones you chose were cheaper tho which is good imo

deep skiff Nov 21, 2019, 11:08 PM

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yeah, tried to find equal performing parts for a little bit less

old charm Nov 21, 2019, 11:10 PM

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is 155hz fine?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MXQG3C/dell-s2719dgf-270-2560x1440-155-hz-monitor-s2719dgf

deep skiff Nov 21, 2019, 11:11 PM

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yeah

old charm Nov 21, 2019, 11:11 PM

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sweet

deep skiff Nov 21, 2019, 11:11 PM

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144hz is a pretty big improvement over 60hz, but 155-240hz aren't super big game changers

old charm Nov 21, 2019, 11:12 PM

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Yeah I figured.

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should I just buy everything on black friday/cyber monday?

deep skiff Nov 21, 2019, 11:13 PM

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a lot of them should be on sale for black friday, but you should buy that monitor when it goes on sale close to that when its sale before it sells out or increases price

old charm Nov 21, 2019, 11:13 PM

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okay for sure

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also should i buy from either amazon or newegg or just pick and choose wherever I can find things cheaper?

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come black friday/cyber monday that is

shut jacinth Nov 21, 2019, 11:38 PM

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amazon avoid newegg unless pixio

deep skiff Nov 21, 2019, 11:44 PM

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newegg has a bad dead pixel policy

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 11:44 PM

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What is it?

deep skiff Nov 21, 2019, 11:44 PM

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if it has less than 8 dead pixels you can't return the monitor

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 11:45 PM

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Punch it so it has more

deep skiff Nov 21, 2019, 11:45 PM

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ikr

vivid torrent Nov 21, 2019, 11:46 PM

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Its actually the industry standard. Manufacturers are bound by the count and distance as well. Not sure who set that up to begin with though.

little osprey Nov 21, 2019, 11:49 PM

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Ik

gaunt zinc Nov 22, 2019, 12:33 AM

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@dense agate is becoming the next beast in #build-pics

old charm Nov 22, 2019, 2:22 AM

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oh, they already got deals on amazon it seems like

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is the ryzen 7 2700 better than the 5 3600?

chilly marsh Nov 22, 2019, 2:29 AM

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yes

old charm Nov 22, 2019, 2:30 AM

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wow i just found the 7 2700 for the same price as the 5 3600

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I'm just gonna buy it

chilly marsh Nov 22, 2019, 2:31 AM

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wait

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nvm im pretty sure the 3600 is a bit better actually

old charm Nov 22, 2019, 2:31 AM

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ah

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for sure

chilly marsh Nov 22, 2019, 2:32 AM

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bit newer

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and i just saw some benchmarks

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my bad

old charm Nov 22, 2019, 2:32 AM

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but like if it says it comes with a cooler on amazon, what does that mean?

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https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-Processor-Wraith-Cooler/dp/B07B428M7F/ref=sr_1_6?crid=1OWRH8SZ6D9LE&keywords=amd+ryzen+5+3600&qid=1574389460&sprefix=amd+ryzen+5+36%2Caps%2C199&sr=8-6

polar holly Nov 22, 2019, 2:33 AM

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it comes with the wraith stock cooler

old charm Nov 22, 2019, 2:33 AM

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I wouldn't need it if I'm planning on buying one already, right?

chilly marsh Nov 22, 2019, 2:33 AM

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you do

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all cpus need a cooler

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its just giving a free cooler

old charm Nov 22, 2019, 2:34 AM

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ah, okay

polar holly Nov 22, 2019, 2:34 AM

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you still will get it regardless it just comes with i recommend getting a better one regardless

chilly marsh Nov 22, 2019, 2:34 AM

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if you want to upgrade to a better one in the future thats fine, but they include the "stock" cooler which is the default that comes with a particular cpu

old charm Nov 22, 2019, 2:34 AM

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okay I getchu

weak glacier Nov 22, 2019, 2:34 AM

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usually stock is fine unless you wanna OC

chilly marsh Nov 22, 2019, 2:34 AM

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^

old charm Nov 22, 2019, 2:34 AM

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so I should go with the 5 3600?

polar holly Nov 22, 2019, 2:34 AM

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Well its ryzen so you should always get a better cooler seing as its built for pco

chilly marsh Nov 22, 2019, 2:35 AM

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ye its a good cpu

old charm Nov 22, 2019, 2:35 AM

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kk

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damn, scratch that. I'm not finding any deals yet. I think I'll just wait

chilly marsh Nov 22, 2019, 2:39 AM

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thats a good idea

old charm Nov 22, 2019, 2:39 AM

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but I think the deals compound if you have honey or wikibuy

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I was saving an additional 12% on the one I found even with the deal

bleak adder Nov 22, 2019, 5:07 AM

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3600

untold snow Nov 22, 2019, 4:26 PM

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Hey, anyone know if the EKWB flat resaviour/Distro block will fit in the spot between the front of the PSU shroud and front panel of the corsair obsidian 500D RGB case ? With a 360mm EK Rad in the front panel ?

sudden turret Nov 22, 2019, 4:27 PM

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you'd have to look up specs on both

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and compare the measurements. lol

odd urchin Nov 22, 2019, 5:24 PM

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question to anyone. if you sli cards together for rendering purposes, can you turn one off for gaming purposes or no?

sudden turret Nov 22, 2019, 5:27 PM

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I don't think it works that way.,

shy coral Nov 22, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Hey I’m looking at buying this build for rust mainly could someone look it over for me and tell me if it’s a good deal or not?

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Just @ me

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@here

tame crystal Nov 22, 2019, 9:51 PM

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So with the shortage of the Ryzen 9 3800x I am looking at going back to Intel. I do, do things like After Effects, Sony Vegas, Sound Forge, etc. So is the core increase worth sacrificing multi-threading? Comparing 9700k to the 9900k?

pulsar garnet Nov 22, 2019, 11:29 PM

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@tame crystal why not a 3900X?

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12 cores and same price as 9900K

latent bronze Nov 22, 2019, 11:30 PM

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3800X is Ryzen 7 is it not 🤔

sudden turret Nov 22, 2019, 11:31 PM

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because he can't find any 3900x

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all sold out

latent bronze Nov 22, 2019, 11:32 PM

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But he said Ryzen 9 3800X

polar holly Nov 22, 2019, 11:32 PM

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probably mistype

shell ivy Nov 22, 2019, 11:33 PM

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Hi guys can someone help me with my build? I'm currently looking to upgrade my ram, and I currently have a i7 8700 CPU but my ram says (ForAMD) should I still use it or should I switch it out before something goes wrong?

polar holly Nov 22, 2019, 11:33 PM

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What type of ram ie speed timings and amount

shell ivy Nov 22, 2019, 11:33 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232728?Description=G.SKILL Trident Z RGB (For AMD) 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C18D-16GTZRX &cm_re=G.SKILL_Trident_Z_RGB_(For_AMD)_16GB_(2_x_8GB)_288-Pin_DDR4_SDRAM_DDR4_3600_(PC4_28800)_Desktop_Memory_Model_F4-3600C18D-16GTZRX-_-20-232-728-_-Product

latent bronze Nov 22, 2019, 11:34 PM

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It works for both AMD and Intel

polar holly Nov 22, 2019, 11:34 PM

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no its fine the speed is what is advied for amd it is fine for either type of processor

shell ivy Nov 22, 2019, 11:34 PM

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Thank god, I thought I messed up.

tame crystal Nov 22, 2019, 11:34 PM

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Yes, meant 3900x

polar holly Nov 22, 2019, 11:35 PM

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There are some 3900x on newegg atleast as of this morning

latent bronze Nov 22, 2019, 11:36 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-9-3900x/p/N82E16819113103 3900X doesn't look to be out of stock

tame crystal Nov 22, 2019, 11:36 PM

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They were sold out as of this afternoon.

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We were chatting about it earlier in gen chat.

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I guess they got some more in stock.

latent bronze Nov 22, 2019, 11:36 PM

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Are you sure you were looking at sold and ship by newegg or from a market place seller

tame crystal Nov 22, 2019, 11:37 PM

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Only Sold and Shipped by

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There were only two listings for that proc and both were from Newegg.

polar holly Nov 22, 2019, 11:38 PM

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yeah i have seen what your talking about sometimes it says sold out but it isnt. i have no clue as to why.

pulsar garnet Nov 22, 2019, 11:40 PM

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imo if you're doing video editing stuff i'd get a 3900x

tame crystal Nov 22, 2019, 11:41 PM

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I'm not into it heavily. Getting back into it, along with After Effects

still roostBOT Nov 23, 2019, 2:34 AM

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Barboza#7718 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

tropic estuary Nov 23, 2019, 2:34 AM

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uP

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microcenter on black friday gonna be hectic

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im scared

little osprey Nov 23, 2019, 2:37 AM

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i agree

tame crystal Nov 23, 2019, 2:38 AM

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Remember to turn your phone sideways when filming Purge, errr I mean Black Friday insanity 😂

little osprey Nov 23, 2019, 2:38 AM

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lol funny

tame crystal Nov 23, 2019, 2:38 AM

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4k hat mounted GoPro would be best

tropic estuary Nov 23, 2019, 2:39 AM

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never going to walmart during black friday

deep skiff Nov 23, 2019, 2:39 AM

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unless you wanna fight people to show how strong you are

tropic estuary Nov 23, 2019, 2:39 AM

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lmao

little osprey Nov 23, 2019, 2:39 AM

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i will shop online 🙂

tame crystal Nov 23, 2019, 2:40 AM

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Just taser people. Less hazardous to your health. Or, just shop online in your PJ's with a cup of coffee

little osprey Nov 23, 2019, 2:40 AM

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bro thats messed up no thanks

tame crystal Nov 23, 2019, 2:41 AM

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What the coffee or tasering people 😂

tropic estuary Nov 23, 2019, 2:41 AM

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anyone been to a microcenter during blackfriday?

little osprey Nov 23, 2019, 2:41 AM

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the coffee part tea is better bro

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jkjk its the tasering part

tame crystal Nov 23, 2019, 2:41 AM

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Hahaha

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JoyEgg

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That is an awesome emote lol

tropic estuary Nov 23, 2019, 2:43 AM

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ludwigPants

tame crystal Nov 23, 2019, 2:45 AM

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Okay pulling the trigger on an i7-9700k for 324 shipped. Anyone have any better ideas speak now. Please?

tropic estuary Nov 23, 2019, 2:52 AM

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wait

tame crystal Nov 23, 2019, 2:52 AM

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?

tropic estuary Nov 23, 2019, 2:53 AM

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nvm best deal atm

tame crystal Nov 23, 2019, 2:53 AM

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Even beats New Eggs BF ad

tropic estuary Nov 23, 2019, 2:53 AM

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ye

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microcenter ludwigPants

tame crystal Nov 23, 2019, 2:53 AM

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nearest is 8hrs away

tropic estuary Nov 23, 2019, 2:54 AM

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i wanna pull the trigger on a mobo and 9600k, but i cant until next friday :c

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anyone running a ASUS Prime Z390-A?

tame crystal Nov 23, 2019, 2:56 AM

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Not I. Looking around for a good mb right now. Not finding much with good raitings

tropic estuary Nov 23, 2019, 2:57 AM

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from what i heard of, asus mobos are the best

tame crystal Nov 23, 2019, 3:04 AM

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Okay

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I keep seeing bad reviews on so many of the intel boards.

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😦

proven dove Nov 23, 2019, 3:59 AM

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Anybody able to help me figure out what I need for TB3 connectivity?

autumn basin Nov 23, 2019, 9:07 PM

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I haven't been keeping up with the tech over the past few years. I built an i5-4690k with a GTX980 5 years ago and that's been the last time I kept up with the advancements in CPUs and such. I was looking at an i9 processor, but I have read that AMD's Ryzen processors are better bang for your buck. What's the general feeling about one of these over another?

sudden turret Nov 23, 2019, 9:09 PM

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amd is by far the best performance to dollar

latent bronze Nov 23, 2019, 9:16 PM

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CPU's yes but GPU's i don't know

lime forge Nov 23, 2019, 9:16 PM

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cough

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rx570

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5700xt

latent bronze Nov 23, 2019, 9:17 PM

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i don't know

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When you have new GPU's out there like the 1650S that performs like a RX 580/590 i would say that would be better

lime forge Nov 23, 2019, 9:18 PM

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how much does the 1650s cost?

latent bronze Nov 23, 2019, 9:19 PM

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150$ - 160$

lime forge Nov 23, 2019, 9:19 PM

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hm

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well

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still, the best budget option is probably an rx570

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for mid range

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mid to high

latent bronze Nov 23, 2019, 9:20 PM

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mid

lime forge Nov 23, 2019, 9:20 PM

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i stand by mid to high

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its a really powerful gpu

latent bronze Nov 23, 2019, 9:20 PM

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But you're always sitting

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it is still strong but with more and more demanding games coming out it doesn't look all that great

round flare Nov 23, 2019, 9:21 PM

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no zack is always running from the back pains he will have in the future

lime forge Nov 23, 2019, 9:21 PM

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mkay

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well

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my 1050ti could handle mid to high graphics settings

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and the rx570 is 70% faster

round flare Nov 23, 2019, 9:22 PM

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wait it is

lime forge Nov 23, 2019, 9:22 PM

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its a great card

latent bronze Nov 23, 2019, 9:22 PM

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where are you getting 70% faster?

round flare Nov 23, 2019, 9:22 PM

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the 570 is between 1060 and 1070 right

latent bronze Nov 23, 2019, 9:22 PM

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570 is more towards the 3gb 1060

lime forge Nov 23, 2019, 9:22 PM

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wait a minute

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hold on

little osprey Nov 23, 2019, 9:22 PM

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side note- there are a few 1060 variants

lime forge Nov 23, 2019, 9:22 PM

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userbenchmark is lying to me D:<

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awhile back it was 70%

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now its 30%

little osprey Nov 23, 2019, 9:23 PM

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why

round flare Nov 23, 2019, 9:23 PM

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I take the stuff on userbenchmark with a grain of salt

little osprey Nov 23, 2019, 9:23 PM

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Do not use userbenchmark to compare different GPUs

latent bronze Nov 23, 2019, 9:23 PM

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zack it has always been 30% and i know i looked on there when i bought the 570

lime forge Nov 23, 2019, 9:23 PM

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what should i use instead

little osprey Nov 23, 2019, 9:23 PM

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I'm gonna ask a mod mod if I can pin thatlol

lime forge Nov 23, 2019, 9:23 PM

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nobody will check the pins

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not worth it

little osprey Nov 23, 2019, 9:24 PM

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3dmark timespy, fire strike, port royal,
superposition
best of all - real in game benchmark comparisons from sites like :
guru3d
tomshardware

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Oh, to clarify - even thogh userbenchmark's gpu tests are still kinda "under construction" - I still think
Their tests are *usually* useful when comparing identical parts

severe oxide Nov 23, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Any opinions on this?

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3700x

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Scythe mugen 5 rev.b

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2x8 3200C14 b-die (hopefully overclocking to 3733)

little osprey Nov 23, 2019, 10:01 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com

severe oxide Nov 23, 2019, 10:01 PM

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Oh right

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Lol thx

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Wait how do I send it without it saying u need to log in

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ will it work?

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Nope nvm

round flare Nov 23, 2019, 10:08 PM

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build looks solid

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Only thing I'd say is maybe get a few more watts

severe oxide Nov 23, 2019, 10:19 PM

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Oh u can see it?

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More than 850?

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Also thx

little osprey Nov 23, 2019, 10:25 PM

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You can see in the url itself what it links to https://pcpartpicker.com/user/UCAUCA/saved/W8nPnQ

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If you edit a list, you need to save and overwrite the current build , ensuring private is unchecked to update it for others to see.

pulsar garnet Nov 23, 2019, 10:26 PM

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RX 5700 XT is best mid range card and best bang for your buck

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Fight me

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2070S is only 3% better FPS average but $100 more expensive

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Bring it @little osprey

little osprey Nov 23, 2019, 10:27 PM

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game on

pulsar garnet Nov 23, 2019, 10:28 PM

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And at least with that crytek demo the 5700 XT performs software ray tracing around the same level as a 2060 non S, but there's more to be seen of that since it's just a demo

fluid raven Nov 24, 2019, 12:01 AM

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Don't buy any card for ray tracing

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There's still only what, 12 games?

sudden turret Nov 24, 2019, 12:12 AM

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lol?

little osprey Nov 24, 2019, 12:13 AM

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EVGA nvidia Yes

fluid raven Nov 24, 2019, 12:35 AM

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Like get whichever just don't let ray-tracing be a deciding factor AT ALL

pulsar garnet Nov 24, 2019, 12:38 AM

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^

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Atm ray tracing isn't worth it

lime forge Nov 24, 2019, 12:38 AM

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theo_angry

little osprey Nov 24, 2019, 12:44 AM

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If you like ray tracing and have done your research so you know what kind of performance to expect in the your hopeful use case - absolutely go for it.

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"I can't believe people buy 2080 ti'or 5700xt's and don't even touch CUDA/OpenCL , what a joke"

deep skiff Nov 24, 2019, 1:20 AM

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lmao u should of seen this guy

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somebody was trashing a Radeon 7 for like $560 saying how useless the vram and OpenCL support was, saying how CUDA is the only good compatibility

drowsy yacht Nov 24, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Looking for spec advice for a gaming PC. Here's what I'm looking at:

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• MSI GeForce GTX 1050 Ti DirectX 12 GTX 1050 Ti 4GT OC 4GB 128-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready ATX Video Card $169.99
• Dell Optiplex 9010 Intel Quad-Core i5 (3.2GHz), 16GB RAM, Choose Up to a 2TB HDD or 240GB SSD, DVD, Windows 10 Pro, WiFi, Keyboard and Mouse (Renewed) $249.99
• Acer GF246 bmipx UM.FG6AA.001 24" Full HD 1920 x 1080 1ms (GTG) 75 Hz D-Sub, HDMI, DisplayPort AMD FreeSync Built-in Speakers Gaming Monitor $99.99

lime forge Nov 24, 2019, 1:54 AM

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video card sucks

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dont get it

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youd be better off with a RX570

drowsy yacht Nov 24, 2019, 1:54 AM

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thanks

lime forge Nov 24, 2019, 1:54 AM

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👍

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 2:21 AM

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are the GHz on your processor really that important?

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like the difference between 3.6 GHz and 6.0GHz?

solar ingot Nov 24, 2019, 2:27 AM

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I don’t know the difference really, but I would watch some videos on it if I were you

chilly marsh Nov 24, 2019, 2:28 AM

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its like the speed on which a cpu operates at

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the faster, the more performance

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a very basic explanation

solar ingot Nov 24, 2019, 2:29 AM

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Okay, that’s really good to know thanks

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 2:34 AM

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@drowsy yacht For like 10$ less you can get the GTX 1650 Super which is better than the RX 570

lime forge Nov 24, 2019, 2:36 AM

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@old charm it does matter

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it depends on what you use your pc for

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if you use multi thread programs, the processors youll be looking at might not have the highest GHz but they will have a ton of cores/threads

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if you do things like gaming that dont need 8+ cores, youll see processors with 6-8 cores and 12-16 threads with a high GHz

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 2:39 AM

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@latent bronze this one?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-GeForce-GTX-1650-SUPER-VENTUS-XS-OC-Graphics-Card-PCI-E-VR-4K-HDR-Ready/323988817838?hash=item4b6f3d07ae:g:xrEAAOSw7Zdd2BMF

eBay

MSI GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER VENTUS XS OC Graphics Card, PCI-E, VR &...

We do believe those are the worthy approaches to shape STARLIT PARTNER your most trusted source of computer products.

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 2:42 AM

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@old charm Id say more this one https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-gtx-1650-super-04g-p4-1357-kr/p/N82E16814487482

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@lime forge ever since Nvidia released that card it actually does matter now

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 2:45 AM

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are the regular one and the "super" the same thing?

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 2:45 AM

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If there is a GPU that performs between a 580 and 590 it is more worth getting

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normal and super are totally different

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 2:46 AM

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okay

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but 160$ is low for that particular item?

lime forge Nov 24, 2019, 2:52 AM

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what? @latent bronze

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they asked if ghz on a processor mattered

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 2:54 AM

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You really should read all the conversation again zack

lime forge Nov 24, 2019, 3:04 AM

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im still extremely confused

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im super lost right now

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whats going on?

solar ingot Nov 24, 2019, 3:05 AM

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I think he is talking about an earlier conservation before cpu one

lime forge Nov 24, 2019, 3:05 AM

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i answered this question

📎 image0.png

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with this response

📎 image0.png

solar ingot Nov 24, 2019, 3:06 AM

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Yeah then idk what he is talking about lol

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 3:06 AM

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Well i answered this one https://i.gyazo.com/d45e2e509d5c2fe4ecd74a5ac2f28791.png

lime forge Nov 24, 2019, 3:07 AM

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shoulda specified

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anyways

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rx570 can be found for $120

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 3:08 AM

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yes but if there is something far better for a little more money it would be best to get that

lime forge Nov 24, 2019, 3:08 AM

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its not 'far better'

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 3:09 AM

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it is between a 580 and 590 so that is "far better"

lime forge Nov 24, 2019, 3:09 AM

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...

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 3:09 AM

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Also you should use quotes when quoting

lime forge Nov 24, 2019, 3:10 AM

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. . .

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between 580 and 590 isnt far better

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its better, but not fat

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far*

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 3:13 AM

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so should i go with the super over the radeon rx?

lime forge Nov 24, 2019, 3:13 AM

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what games do you play

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 3:15 AM

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uhh

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I guess mostly a mix of everything

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except like shooters

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and sports games

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lots of fighting games

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I like soulsborne games too

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 3:18 AM

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This is also for future games as well cause while the RX 570 would be good now how would you know it would be good next year and remember a lot of tests for the 1650S isn't even with proper drivers yet and does far better than the RX 570 and yes 10-20 fps more is far better

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 3:18 AM

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I am a complete greenhorn who knows next to nothing about pc stuff but is tired of playing on console/paying for online

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 3:19 AM

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@old charm It would be better to get the EVGA one on Newegg cause one EVGA has better support and also you would have a warranty on top of that

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 3:19 AM

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and am tired of having potato pc's

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 3:19 AM

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the 1650S would last for a good 3 to 4 years before you would need to really replace it

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 3:20 AM

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it's also a couple hundred dollars cheapr from what I've seen so far

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 3:27 AM

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The key thing @old charm is you want to future proof your system so for whatever games would come out you would be ready for it

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 3:28 AM

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Yeah, tbh that's what I am going for right now

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@latent bronze can i send you my build?

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 3:28 AM

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sure give me a minute cause i am also cooking

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 3:28 AM

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for sure

lime forge Nov 24, 2019, 3:28 AM

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1650s is not any more futureproof than the rx570

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theyre somewhat close in performance

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 3:29 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3fj68M

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there's no video card in there right now but I had the rx570 in there

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 3:31 AM

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lol somewhat close that is funny zack

deep skiff Nov 24, 2019, 3:31 AM

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i'd go for a cxm 2019 psu, you can get a 750w 80+ gold for around the same price

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 3:32 AM

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you forget that everyone that tested the 1650S used beta drivers so it is not 100% but gives 10 to 20 more fps than a 8gb RX 570

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 3:34 AM

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@deep skiff this one?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6Y66Mp/corsair-rm-2019-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020195-na

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 3:35 AM

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@old charm You could also save a little more money going with this board and it is Ryzen 3000 ready https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jcYQzy/msi-b450-tomahawk-max-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-tomahawk-max

deep skiff Nov 24, 2019, 3:36 AM

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@old charm yeah that one

still roostBOT Nov 24, 2019, 3:37 AM

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SouthPawPad#1296 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 3:38 AM

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holy crap

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changing those saved me $400

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lol

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well

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actually that's cuz there's no video card in there right now

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I can't find the super on there but it would still only put me at like 900-1000

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it was $1,200 before

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and like $1,500 before that

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 3:40 AM

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wait with that budget why are we doing 1650s

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hell you could fit a 1660ti

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 3:40 AM

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I mean my starting budget was 2k so I can still splurge

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 3:41 AM

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2k

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OH THEN

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Well

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brb

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list time

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 3:41 AM

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wait

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I am kinda happy with this right now

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 3:41 AM

#

o

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 3:41 AM

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I dunno if I wanna go that high for now

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this is my first build

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 3:42 AM

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well I'll still make my own around the 1200 marl

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mark

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see what I can do

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 3:42 AM

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Never know what he would want as well in 2 to 3 years

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 3:42 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zQ4HzN

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I already had this lying around

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lots of room for good peripherals

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 3:45 AM

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You do know he can overclock the memory as well and keep the RGB

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 3:46 AM

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oh he wants rgb

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Yes

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brb

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 3:48 AM

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@round flare isn't the 1660 super 30$ cheaper?

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 3:48 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hVVxcq

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ye you could also go 1660s

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I'm just lazy to find it on pcpp

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https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-gtx-1660-super-gtx-1660-super-gaming-x/p/N82E16814137476

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you could get the evga one as well but it's out of stock rn

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just replace the ti with that and the total comes out under 1k

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 3:50 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-gtx-1660-super-06g-p4-1068-kr/p/N82E16814487479 its not out of stock

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 3:52 AM

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oh sorry you're right

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I was looking at a cheaper version of the same card

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 3:52 AM

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dammit

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I have a 1k credit limmit

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lol

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gonna have to use my debit card a little

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well I mean with Black friday/cyber monday deals it will be under that actually

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 3:53 AM

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ye

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and you have room still for all them epic gamer peripherals

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 3:53 AM

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is a $90 keyboard worth?

elder canyon Nov 24, 2019, 3:54 AM

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Depends

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 3:54 AM

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it might just be because it has RBG

elder canyon Nov 24, 2019, 3:54 AM

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Yes usually

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 3:54 AM

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oh, okay

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 3:54 AM

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depends

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which one

elder canyon Nov 24, 2019, 3:54 AM

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Check the switch type

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 3:54 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Rwc48d/corsair-k68-rgb-wired-gaming-keyboard-ch-9102010-na

elder canyon Nov 24, 2019, 3:54 AM

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If it has a detachable rest

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 3:54 AM

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corsair is nice but kind of overpriced

elder canyon Nov 24, 2019, 3:54 AM

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Yeah

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It has reds and the wrist rest

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 3:55 AM

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It really depends on what switch size and utility you want

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like the anne pro 2

elder canyon Nov 24, 2019, 3:55 AM

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So it aint a complete bad price

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 3:55 AM

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is a nice little mecha keyboard

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for cheap

elder canyon Nov 24, 2019, 3:56 AM

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I would jus get one that is backlit red switches and sum udder stuf

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 3:56 AM

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that sounds kinda cool

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 3:56 AM

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depends which switches they want

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do you want loud and clicky?

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or silent

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or just in between

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 3:56 AM

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I guess it doesn't matter that much to me

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 3:57 AM

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Could always get the hybrid box posted for 20$

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 3:57 AM

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Yeah do you want mechanical

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or are you ok with a membrane

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 3:57 AM

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Well hybrids are a mix of the 2

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 3:57 AM

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I'm not really sure what a "mechanical" keyboard even means really

chilly marsh Nov 24, 2019, 3:58 AM

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oof

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 3:58 AM

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the descriptions for that keyboard say mechanical feel membrane

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 3:58 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16823201108?Item=N82E16823201108&cm_sp=homepage_dailydeals-_-p2_23-201-108-_-11232019 20$ and worth it in my opinion

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 3:58 AM

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idk what hybrid is

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I hear a lot of good thing about redragon

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https://www.newegg.com/p/32N-000J-00009

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they make cheap mecha keyboards

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my friend has that one and loves it

deep skiff Nov 24, 2019, 4:01 AM

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mecha membrane is a sin

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 4:01 AM

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So are nacho's but people still buy them 😛

deep skiff Nov 24, 2019, 4:01 AM

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no nachos are good

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 4:02 AM

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I like my ornata chroma

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except the switched

deep skiff Nov 24, 2019, 4:02 AM

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but not with olives those suck

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 4:02 AM

#

switches

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keyboard feels nice and everything

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 4:02 AM

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Alright, so how does this look?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XLMz7T

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 4:02 AM

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wrist rest is great too

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but ewww mecha

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I mean membrane

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 4:02 AM

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hybrid you mean

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 4:03 AM

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I mean

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doesn't feel anywhere near a mechanical keyboard to me

deep skiff Nov 24, 2019, 4:03 AM

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like either get a cheap membrane or a mechanical

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 4:03 AM

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Well 20$ right there is cheap

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 4:03 AM

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hVVxcq

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I like this ram more

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probably looks less tacky than that one

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 4:04 AM

#

Team Group is known to work very well with Ryzen

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 4:05 AM

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G9Vxcq

deep skiff Nov 24, 2019, 4:05 AM

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like every brand of ram works with 2/3000 ryzen

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 4:05 AM

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Spend a little more for a real mechanical rgb keyboard

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 4:06 AM

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The original memory he has is still very good and 10$ less than the one you picked

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 4:08 AM

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But trident z rgb 😭

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 4:09 AM

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Would perform no different and they are both RGB still

little osprey Nov 24, 2019, 4:15 AM

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@ nuclear - Every brand can* work, but non3600 takes a few settings changes to get that nice 1:1 on zen2.

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Not hard at all - but some people aren't really about poking around in bios haha

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 4:24 AM

#

do you guys reccommend getting virus protection or a vpn?

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 4:24 AM

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Windows defender should be enough

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but a vpn is nice to have

lime forge Nov 24, 2019, 4:24 AM

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if youre smart, virus protection isnt necessary

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 4:24 AM

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yeah

lime forge Nov 24, 2019, 4:24 AM

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VPN if youre into emulation cool_and_good

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i mean what

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 4:24 AM

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just don't go browsing those uh

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sites

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 4:25 AM

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You know the NSA bypasses a VPN

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 4:26 AM

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I only emulate like N64, PS2 ,Gamecube

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 4:26 AM

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What no SNES?

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 4:27 AM

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my bro got me the SNES thing you plug into your TV like last christmas

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or my bday I don't remember

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 4:27 AM

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If it is like the knock off SNES mini/classic about 80% of the games are not originals and copies

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 4:28 AM

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I'm fine with it

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I'm into castlevania

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and mega man

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 4:30 AM

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You should try on PC Bloodstained

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 4:31 AM

#

I heard NordVPN got hacked

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@latent bronze I've heard of that. I might check it out

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 4:31 AM

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i just finished the game

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30 hours of playing it and i didn't 100% the game

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i got like 60% of the game completed from items and such

blissful shadow Nov 24, 2019, 4:38 AM

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I am building a 4K video editing rig and maybe do some gaming, been many years... should I wait for Black Friday or Boxing Day?

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Rosewill ATX Full Tower Gaming PC Computer Case with Blue LED Fans, EATX Support, Dual PSU Support, Optional 360mm Water ...
MSI GeForce RTX 2070 DirectX 12 RTX 2070 GAMING 8G 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
CORSAIR RMx Series RM750x CP-9020179-NA 750W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular
Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G
CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Desktop Memory Model CMK64GX4M2D3000C16
MSI MAG Z390 TOMAHAWK LGA 1151 (300 Series) Intel Z390 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Intel Motherboard
MSI MAG Z390 TOMAHAWK LGA 1151 (300 Series) Intel Z390 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i7-9700K Coffee Lake 8-Core 3.6 GHz (4.9 GHz Turbo) LGA 1151 (300 Series) 95W BX80684I79700K Desktop ...
Corsair Hydro Series H100i PRO Low Noise 240mm RGB Water/Liquid CPU Cooler 240mm (CW-9060033-WW) Support Intel 2066, AMD ...
Seagate IronWolf 6TB NAS Hard Drive 7200 RPM 256MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive ST6000VN0033
Silicon Power 1TB NVMe PCIe Gen3 x4 M.2 2280 TLC R/W up to 3,400/3,000 MB/s SSD (SP001TBP34A80M28)

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whatcha guys think??

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 4:41 AM

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you need a dedicated rig for video editing?

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 4:41 AM

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@blissful shadow can you use pcpartpicker for that

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Also go for the 2070 Super

blissful shadow Nov 24, 2019, 4:42 AM

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Ok will do thanks for the tip

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Ya I could do pcpartpicker but was looking for advice

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 4:44 AM

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Also this would be a better case https://www.newegg.com/black-rosewill-spectra-c100-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811147289

blissful shadow Nov 24, 2019, 4:47 AM

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I want to put a dvd burner in it

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 4:47 AM

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Use an external instead trust me

lime forge Nov 24, 2019, 4:48 AM

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um what

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 4:48 AM

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And they even sell enclosures for DVD drives to make it external

blissful shadow Nov 24, 2019, 4:48 AM

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But I already own 2 brand new internal, and a drive that reads old 360 games haha

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ya I know ... but then it needs to go somewhere

lime forge Nov 24, 2019, 4:48 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-masterbox-mb600l-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811119329?Item=N82E16811119329

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ive built in that case, its great

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if you need more 5.25" bays though

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https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-haf-series-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811119233?Item=N82E16811119233

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 4:49 AM

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first one looks to have very little airflow and the second is just retro

lime forge Nov 24, 2019, 4:49 AM

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first one is fine

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ive built in it

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 4:50 AM

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with what parts

blissful shadow Nov 24, 2019, 4:52 AM

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I listed them above

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then got chirped for TEXT wall

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Is the 2070 super really that much better?

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I haven

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 4:53 AM

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I know what you listed but was asking zack for what parts he used with that cooler master case cause really i have a good feeling with the parts you want will cause heating issues

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 4:53 AM

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if you're going for the normal 2070
you might as well go 5700xt

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if you're going 2070s then yeah it's worth

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 4:53 AM

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Just think of the 2070 Super as a low price underclocked 2080

blissful shadow Nov 24, 2019, 4:56 AM

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doing some research to see the differences

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I dont need crazy top of the line but I want a good computer for video editing and some gaming

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 4:57 AM

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yeah then the 2070s is perfect for you

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great gaming card

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should be great workstation card too

blissful shadow Nov 24, 2019, 4:57 AM

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wow the RX 5700 XT looks pretty good

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 4:57 AM

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It is

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it's a little less powerful

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but a lot less expensive

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 4:58 AM

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But he also wants 4K editing 😛

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 4:58 AM

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should be good for that too

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I mean you won't see a massive gap between 5700xt and 2070

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unless he wants to go all out and go 2080ti

blissful shadow Nov 24, 2019, 4:59 AM

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$100 more for 6-10% more performance

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 4:59 AM

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yep

blissful shadow Nov 24, 2019, 4:59 AM

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2070 super to 5700 xt

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 4:59 AM

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Do it

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go team red

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it calls to you yes

blissful shadow Nov 24, 2019, 5:00 AM

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what do you guys recommend for a cpu cooler for a i7 9700K

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 5:00 AM

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water or air

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 5:00 AM

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water, liquid or air

blissful shadow Nov 24, 2019, 5:00 AM

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a good quiet cooler air or separate

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like the one in my list

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 5:01 AM

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Plan on overclocking?

blissful shadow Nov 24, 2019, 5:01 AM

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Corsair Hydro Series H100i PRO Low Noise 240mm RGB Water/Liquid CPU Cooler 240mm (CW-9060033-WW) Support Intel 2066, AMD ...

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 5:01 AM

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scythe mugen 5

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or whatever it's called

blissful shadow Nov 24, 2019, 5:01 AM

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I don't know... with the spec set it seems that I shouldn't have to

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 5:02 AM

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I hear it's really good

blissful shadow Nov 24, 2019, 5:02 AM

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cheap too

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 5:03 AM

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lot of great video reviews on this https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16835099003

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I could of gotten it for 50$ awhile back but because of the case and fans i own i would be using 2 fan control boxes

blissful shadow Nov 24, 2019, 5:07 AM

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how do I know what size I need for the i7 9700K

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 5:08 AM

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For an AIO it is the size of your case

blissful shadow Nov 24, 2019, 5:09 AM

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How do I know if all of these parts work well together?

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 5:10 AM

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The case i was suggesting would work well with almost anything

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that is why i was suggesting external DVD drives

blissful shadow Nov 24, 2019, 5:10 AM

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Rosewill ATX Full Tower Gaming PC Computer Case with Blue LED Fans, EATX Support, Dual PSU Support, Optional 360mm Water
MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER
CORSAIR RMx Series RM750x CP-9020179-NA 750W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular
Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G
CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000)
MSI MAG Z390 TOMAHAWK LGA 1151 (300 Series) Intel Z390 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i7-9700K Coffee Lake 8-Core 3.6 GHz (4.9 GHz Turbo) LGA 1151 (300 Series) 95W
Corsair Hydro Series H100i PRO Low Noise 240mm RGB Water/Liquid CPU Cooler 240mm
Seagate IronWolf 6TB NAS Hard Drive 7200 RPM 256MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
Silicon Power 1TB NVMe PCIe Gen3 x4 M.2 2280 TLC R/W up to 3,400/3,000 MB/s SSD

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Na I just want one internal DVD RW drive

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 5:12 AM

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you know NAS is pretty much a network drive right

blissful shadow Nov 24, 2019, 5:12 AM

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nope

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what does that mean

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i just want some extra storage

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 5:13 AM

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I forgot the meaning of it

blissful shadow Nov 24, 2019, 5:13 AM

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i actually have about (9) 1 or 2 TB drives

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so I will just throw a few of them in there

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for storage

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M.2 for games

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I am surprised there aren't more people that want to help me build a beast of a PC

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haha

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 5:15 AM

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They're all busy in general chat talking about god knows what

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 5:16 AM

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I do but I also know nothing about editing so

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👌

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 5:17 AM

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is it worth it to buy now or should I wait till black friday/cyber monday?

blissful shadow Nov 24, 2019, 5:17 AM

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I was wondering the same!

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 5:17 AM

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Id wait for deals

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but you have to buy quick

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stuff goes fast

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 5:18 AM

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I am seeing deals on some stuff

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idk if its worth it to pull the trigger yet tho

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 5:19 AM

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some places like Newegg and Microcenter are doing pre black friday sales

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pretty much making sales on certain smaller items first before making bigger sales

old charm Nov 24, 2019, 5:30 AM

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is there anywhere that shows what the normal prices for things would be? I can't tell if a lot of these are actually deals or not

fluid raven Nov 24, 2019, 6:03 AM

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pcpartpicker has a price tracker for parts when you look them up

rotund radish Nov 24, 2019, 6:54 AM

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are they gonna put unsold stuff from this pre-black friday on sale for actual friday? can't decide if I should pull the trigger on 500d se now or later

severe oxide Nov 24, 2019, 3:38 PM

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I can’t find the brief conversation I had from yesterday and I don’t remember but here’s the parts list, I think somebody said something about a more powerful power supply? I also just found a deal for a 750w which is less than I wouldn’t wanted but for that little money I might go for it

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/24-core-egg/saved/#view=3znPnQ

round flare Nov 24, 2019, 3:45 PM

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this is great

severe oxide Nov 24, 2019, 4:25 PM

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Awesome, thanks

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Would it be a bad idea to get a 750w if I’m overclocking?

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I know it’s not much of an overclocker but I’d still like to try to push up the cpu a few hundred MHz and the GPU up to at least 2.1ghz, if I get a lucky bin I might be able to pull 2.3 but that seems unlikely

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Also the ram up to 3733

tidal bluff Nov 24, 2019, 4:27 PM

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i use a evga 750 g3

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u can definately oc with it

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and run liquid cooling

severe oxide Nov 24, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Oh that’s fantastic

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Thank you

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Oh wow I just found an 850 for $80 off, it’s $70 on Monday

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Well, I found a new egg cyber Monday ad that says it’s gonna be $70

little osprey Nov 24, 2019, 4:37 PM

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Need help with Cable management

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 4:40 PM

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What is that red thing on the case

little osprey Nov 24, 2019, 4:41 PM

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It's where my MOBO screws on

tidal bluff Nov 24, 2019, 4:42 PM

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@little osprey guessing the case dont have holes for wiring it behind the case?

severe oxide Nov 24, 2019, 4:42 PM

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How big is the back portion

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Oh that would be an issue

tidal bluff Nov 24, 2019, 4:43 PM

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i ran all my wires in the back

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 4:43 PM

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supposed to route all the cables on the bottom and thread them through the sides

little osprey Nov 24, 2019, 4:45 PM

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There's the back

latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 4:45 PM

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yep and you see the bottom

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supposed the thread all PSU cables through there

little osprey Nov 24, 2019, 4:47 PM

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Ok unhooking everything

severe oxide Nov 24, 2019, 4:47 PM

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I mean basically get everything to the back and pull them taught enough that they won’t break things but will have minimal exposure, then in the back just organize them vertically and horizontally and well dissipated so u can do as little finger gymnastics as possible if u ever change things

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No scratch the well dissipated actually

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Not really sure what I meant by that

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Basically try to keep things to vertical and horizontal lines and just keep doing what ur doing, what u have there is great so just do that with everything

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Oh also I just found a 3800x for $340, is it worth it for the bin?

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Actually

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I also found a 3700x for $305 and they bin so specifically nvm

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Although apparently the 3800x has 150mhz extra overclocking headroom

little osprey Nov 24, 2019, 4:54 PM

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Update 1

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latent bronze Nov 24, 2019, 4:55 PM

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extra cables you can tie them up together and tuck them under where your drives are

little osprey Nov 24, 2019, 4:56 PM

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Ok I'm starting to hook everything back up

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Ok I have 2 more to do is it safe for my to do this