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so i got those, then it paid off when i realized i didnt need to pay for peripherals and just buy the pc with monitor
my 1660 runs 80+ on all games
all on sale
i can make it 144 fps if i lower 3 4 settings by one notch
Yeah
honestly im not really thinking about upgrading my pc now other than storage, i got a lot of other things to think about that i didnt back earlier in 2019
saving up for a better keyboard rn tho, then storage, then probably better headphones
mainly peripherals
what games you play @round flare ?
Destiny 2, overwatch, minecraft, terraria, apex
Everything basically
So this
is this the finished product
interesting
i mainly play siege, every once in a while division 2, tho i can play rust or mc with friends destiny 2 i dont play but own and a little but if brawlhalla
Nice
Destiny is a lot more new player friendly now
Ok @sand kayak I think that's your build right there
calus
What
Maybe
But gpu benchmark site says that its not really better by a lot
It's also a bit more expensive I'd say
the 590 is better at somethings than the 1660
i mean by 20 bucks more expensive
slighter less
but that dont matter
looks good to me
What looks good
the build
he wants his lights so rgb ram baby
man that crap was 20 bucks more expensive in early 2019
i wanted it, but out of my budget
750
oof
you planning to upgrade yours anytime?
yeah i really like the 5700 and xt
Ok ok fine do one with no lights
Rgb won't decrease price by much I promise
Literally just the ram
Also all keyboards have rbg LOL
best it can do at this point is just upgrade your gpu to a 1660
rgb*
wont be much but its something
your saving 20 bucks
but if you want your lights thats totally fine
And it won't be as flashy
I I understand that but y'all were talking like it could be better if I didn't get the rgb
Not by much
its a minor thing yes, but overall not a big deal
the difference of one gpu that runs higher by only a few fps
and plus, you can always save up some more money for the future
Ok thx
those 8 cores will go to good use
@chilly marsh what would you upgrade in yours if you had a realistic budget
Which specifically
I like to hear the preferences of people
I would go with a red devil 5700xt and maybe an h510 elite
I want an nzxt case
prob a ryzen 7, either 5700 or xt
nice
for me the cpu was the hardest to do when building my pc
those damn screws wouldnt go in
i screw in one, rest pops out
i screw in other, rest pops out even if i screw it in a tiny bit
ryzen 5 2600x
that stock cooler needs some mental help
I spent a good 30 minutes putting the stock cooler in
The spring screws are mental
I hate them
other than that the build went smoothly, save for half an hour of looking at cables
i even needed to get my dad to help me with my cpu stock cooler lmao
then i just figured out the small cables for mb
So I took like 2 hours on cables
then it was my monitor not wanting to detect signal
i took about half an hour on management of cabLE afterwards
i was so happy when it worked
i yelled in happiness noises for a full 2 minutes
Lol
not joking
i was so thankful cause i know what its like to play under 40fps lowest settings with like a window as small as my bowl for eating
Oof
I never had a pc before my build right now so
The experience was great
I come from console
so it was night and day
i mean i played on the family pc before so
not any better than your past situation lmao
Oh lol
btw
Ye?
:wuuu:peepoSusp:
Well I messed up the emotes

I don't even know what gpu that is
Anyways, I'm gonna head to sleep
Nice talk
cya
oh?

POWER
aight night, nice talk man
@pulsar garnet that looks more purple than pink
@latent bronze camera doesn't like colors
Hey guys, maybe a HORRIBLE question, but let's try to be civil; what's the best brand for an RTX 2070 Super in your opinion, and why?
I'm starting a build list. I don't know if I'll be able to scramble the cash, but I want to build a new machine for my new streaming channel.
@vagrant wyvern rog
@novel nacelle I am definitely Rog-Curious. I used to use a lot of ASUS parts back in the olden days.
What's your thoughts on why they are the best?
Have you ever had to deal with their customer service team?
Also, why am I not seeing any listed on Newegg for RTX 2070 Supers? I must be searching wrong.
Belay last question. I'm literally staring at one right now on my search results. DOH
EVGA
The EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards are powered by the all-new NVIDIA Turing architecture to give you incredible new levels of gaming realism, speed, power efficiency, and immersion. With the EVGA GeForce RTX 20-Series gaming cards you get the best gaming experience...
If you're going for the + because you want more fps for more $, do it. There are small wiggles in the proice/performance competition graph, each side trading game specific performance as well as features/ vs raw fps, but for most
Both the 2070 , and 2070 super are well within the limits of value that I think one should prioritize other factors like customer service, power limit, noise, thermals, the last 3 of which are almost entirely what influence real world, non test bench performanec.
@little osprey pics only in that channel and talking in this one
My first build :D
Ryzen 5 3600
B450 Gaming Plus Max
16gb Ram 3600 mhz T-Force
Gammaxx GT CPU cooler
750W RGB 80+ Gold Toughpower Grand PSU
Sapphire Pulse RX 5700 XT
Montech Air900 Mesh
240 gb Kingston SATA SSD
1 tb Cruxial MX500 SATA SSD

@quaint terrace dont forget to post that picture to #build-pics to be submitted for the Techin Around show on Newegg streams!
very cool
Hey will a Asus motherboard be able to sink with a gigabyte graphics card ? RGB wise
yes
For GPU's they have their own programs
So it would take 2 different programs. Is their any program out their that is like a universal one that works with everything
Sometimes having 2 different colors can be cool as well
Take this as an example 😛
Hmmm the reason I like that gpu is because of the display ports
I can’t find a 2080 super by Asus with 3 of each
That a Masterbox from Cooler Master?
That was the case I used in my first build, and on my brother's build lol
I got a evolve X case
That is the one with the magnetic mesh cover
So is the one I got, but the mesh has seen better days. Got a little bent up when I moved
Well i gtg
@latent bronze lmao got that 3 pixel image
orbtal eqatoins
are you even in new york?
it got sold out in my local one
Well this is what i am reading when i clicked on that https://i.gyazo.com/8b423c869e830650fc652780a6947c4c.png
my closest is Vermont
interesting
https://i.gyazo.com/a82fad8772f0164abb11ffc622fd23f7.png This would be 115$ US
Also i am thinking of i5 and i7 with that memory 😛
anyone want to help with which version of windows 10 i need?
64 bit for sure...home for sure..its for a personaly gaming PC...not sure to get full retail and where, or a full download...
need to upgrade from windows 7
are those keys safe and non-stolen or anything? i dont want to run into issues with keys down the raod
and thank you for your help
download the tool, create to usb
okay
I've used an ebay key for the longest time, so have many here.. never had any issues.
okay
I know, it sounds sketchy lol.
yea it kinda does and you know...internet
okay well sounds good, thanks so much for your help
no prob
@quaint terrace what mobo model did you use for the 3600?? I’m trying to find one for my next build
oh B450 gaming plus max its compatible out of the box with the ryzen 3000 series @latent jacinth
@quaint terrace wow that’s even cheaper than the MSI tomahawk I was looking at. Thanks!
yup
Haven’t built a computer since 2013 so I gotta take my time — still running a i5-3570k and gtx 660
3770K is still good in this day and age
Lot of games as well still would recommend 6th and 7th gen i5's which if you compare to this you can see the 3770K is still strong https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7600-vs-Intel-Core-i7-3770K/3890vs1317
i considered just upgrading the gpu because i dont do as much gaming as i use to. not really sure ifperformance would bottleneck though considering the age of the rest of my hardware
If you're upgrading to a mid range GPU you would be fine
had my eye on the 1660 ti
its a good card for under 300
1660 Ti gives pretty much the same performance as a 1070
the only thing is 2 less video memory
@latent jacinth Systems like the one you're using now is still pretty good considering games like Destiny 2 recommended is a i5 2400
What are the games you do play when you do?
@latent bronze I still really enjoy world of Warcraft and CSGO , but I would like to play more titles like gears 5 and battlefield without turning the graphics all down to very low.
No streaming or editing on my PC either.
I like using two monitors but my 660 seems to struggle when I have two of them hooked up. So for now I only have one 144hz monitor
Have you ever thought of just a normal 1660?
@latent jacinth This is my own benchmark with the 1660 which you can be able to see the performance https://youtu.be/z97adLFgFEY?t=427
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note i am using a Ryzen 5 2600 as well so there is a bit more of a performance than the 3570K
what a coincidence, thats my buil D
That looks great
I did consider buying the older 2600 for my build just to save a few dollars. And I did consider buying the regular 1660. I just don’t know the market well enough to buy last generations hardware without overpaying
How old are your builds and would you recommend moving to the 3600 over the 2600? @latent bronze @chilly marsh if someone was purchasing completely knew
i replaced my CPU to the 2600 in August
i would of went for the 3600 but i didn't have enough
I could of went for the 3400G instead which would of been about the same performance as the 2600
Eh APU with a GPU is weird and you got more cores and threads
if i had money maybe
but thats if i had more than enough
because i prob wouldnt buy it since im saving up for something else
@feral basalt more cores and threads are nice but when you have something that is fewer cores and threads that performs better than Zen+ Ryzen 5 then that is something cause remember the 2400G performance as well is the same as a 1600
it is just i would of had a back up in case my GPU dies and i had to RMA it
help
What ya guys think of this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w3HxYH
Rate it 1-10
I won't change any parts so don't try to convince me
at least change the cpu cooler to the chromax version so it's a sleek black

What's the difference with and open air case vs closed case
Any cooling benefits between these
yes
more air around the case of an open air can cool it better
but higher chance of getting more dust in the build
closed case can get enough cooling, just not as much as an open air
and open air will be louder (cpu cooler, gpu cooler, fans/radiators)
Ty
i doubt that
Wasnt talking to u Ecks
if someone makes the age argument, its probably false or they're just immature for reacting to the joke lmao
I'm older than you
Lol
So I'm right
lmao
I'm 38
i win im 39
I'm 19
omg you're the same age as zack
Someone is confused
there is no im the same as zack
And I was talking to Box when I made the comment about chitlins
he's the same as M 3
Now how many months apart lol
Aug.
Sep
Box you're a leo as well?
Sep 1st
nah virgo
Hahaha
So Box does this mean i get to call you a chitlin then lol
I think that gives u a ban
nein.
Lolz

so mainly what im interpreting is that most members in this discord are 30+ men
interesting
Well i am Aug 1980
just call me ban o'lantern
any of you married?
yep
I am
gives theo his sippy cup
any kids
But soon divorcing
Reason: Bad word usage
I have 2 kids
crap that sucks man, wish you luck
wish you the best
Good ritins
Was for the best got tired of the bs
Come to find out she wasnt here for me only herself
And the Green card
She was from Brazil
We only been married 2 years
damn
So it had to be removed from my home
So yeah I'm glad shes leaving
So I will be single for a while
I dont do crazy or controlling
So I'm counting the days
🥳
Well we're all crazy just in our own ways
Yeah but when u make a service dog bite you just to get rid of the dog not caring that I need for my anxiety and PTSD then u have a problem
If we were all normal then life would be boring
MONDAY gona be great GTFO is being released
And Tuesday she leaves
Sux when u feel like a prisoner In ur own home
I hardly leave my place so i am used to being a prisoner in my own home lol
If i am not going out for doctors appointments and treatments i would say i go out at least once every 2 months
Fk that
I have been single for 23 years so um ya
oh i know that but all the women interested in me i can't date
Anyways
Enough about me
So who's gona build a new pc soon
I may in a couple months
I will prolly build one with the threadripper
And an MSI board
Sorry theo was venting
it's okay
I'm still kinda mad
About the whole situation
Anywho
Should I go liquid cool or air cool on the threadripper
I dont know how much heat that chip puts out
Well for air cooling these are your options https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100065756 601346194
You also know the fans in the stock Ryzen fans are from Cooler Master
Didnt know that I thought they came with AMD wraith fans
It's what it says on the box on most with the wraith cooler
Or does coolermaster make there fans and stamp the amd logo
When you remove the fans from it on the other side it says Cooler Master
I might use this for my 2600 https://www.newegg.com/p/13C-001X-00004 lol
I have deep cool on my 1400
This is the S40 https://www.newegg.com/deepcool-gammaxx-s40/p/N82E16835856026
But now i want a lower profile cooler instead
my options are that Wraith Prism cooler or this one https://www.newegg.com/p/13C-0005-00113
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ffNxGc is that okay?
id avoid xfx on navi, and bump the ram to 16gb
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yeah
but still i'd look at it like msi's thermal pad problem, it was on all of their cards minus the gaming x
because they had an issue with navi thermal pads
and it was on 3 or 4 cards, just like how xfx could have bad temps on several cards like the one u posted
is it better than the blower cards?
idk im looking at reviews rn
it performs well, but runs pretty dang loud
should be around 50 dba, which is pretty loud
the red dragon is a pretty good non xt card ive heard
the xfx dd
can you link the video you watched?
Guides and Reviews on how to get the maximum from your PC. Overclocking and Modding to the Extreme
and can you check how loud blower cards are?
only review i could find
?
Sapphire ftw
Yeah I have the Sapphire Pulse 5700 xt, could barely hear anything lol even when playing game hehe
@pulsar garnet @quaint terrace @deep skiff Which would be better for streaming, recording, editing and gaming? Games like Fortnite, PUBG, Rust, Call of Duty Games:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pwkHhg or https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ffNxGc
Instead of 2700 get 3600
I'm trying my best to stay under 500 but a little over is okay
A 3600 is 30$ more.
I don't think I can do that
?
Where are you looking at for the 3600?
I found one that's new that is 185.99$
But where'd you find one for 161.99$?
@pulsar garnet
@deep skiff I found one cheaper and I don't have a Micro Center near me
I found a new one that sold 2K times for 185.99$
but mobos are like 300-500, kind of kills first gen tr
at that price i'd still want to stick to buying used
should be able to find 1950x's and boards for $500ish still
but you could also find a higher clocked 8 core at like $400 new, only downside would be less c/t and less ram support
oh yeah, 100%, but, going 1st gen threadripper, there really isnt a good reason for it other than specifically needing as many cores as cheap as possible
i just bought a i7 9700 and Z370 board for $250, that would be a much better price for a 8 core and board for a more gaming focused build
What do you think is better, gtx 1650 or RX 580
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rKKkdm would that be a good upgrade? from a fx 6300, rx 560 2gb and 8gb 1600mhz ram
trying to stay under 500 but about 80$ over is okay
if anyone has changes, feel free to link the changes
"Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions."
I'm gonna be using it for streaming, editing, recording and gaming, games like destiny 2, pubg, r6, fortnite
@chilly marsh I'll just ask amd for a cpu to get shipped out to me to update the bios then send that cpu back
people say to get that 3600 instead of a 2700 or a 2600X
ye thats good
why are you sending the cpu back after updating the bios
that doesnt add up
there is no update cpu
if there is, arent you just gonna update the bios anyways without it
well I don't know how to
you can just search up how to update bios on your mb
should I go with MSI?
and then your motherboard company
since I have a bios flashback button
dont have a definite answer
im not the most knowledgeable sadly, too busy to learn other things now
: (
oh it's okay
https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/Fatal1ty B450 Gaming K4/index.asp#BIOS @chilly marsh which one would I download?
would be best to update to the most recent version
though asrock warns you and they dont recommend users to update bios if their system is already running as it should
but it comes down to your choice
what does that mean?
if your system is running fine, you dont have to update your bios
oh
they just warn us
what would show if I needed to update my bios?
just more updates on the website
how would I know if it isn't running fine?
if something is really wrong with your system
if a problem has to do with your mb, maybe then you might have to update it
but i wouldnt worry about it too much
but you can update your mb using instant flash with a fat32 formatted usb disk
what signs of problems will it show?
ok thanks
heres an explanation i found
"Common symptoms of motherboard issues are similar to CPU problems: The system does not display anything; an error code appears; one or more beeps occur; the system locks; the system reboots; a Windows BSOD (blue screen of death) appears; or one or more of the ports, expansion slots, or memory modules fails."
any timE
A friend of mine is putting together his first build, I already gave him some suggestions, and this is the latest list he's come up with, ordering parts at the end of the week most likely
I already advised him against spending that kind of money on an AiO, anyone got any other suggestions?
unless he plans to OC like crazy that's probably overkill lol
i went with gammaxx gt air cooler for my build, I didnt OC or anything though but my my temps were at 31-33 when idle and about 40 when i was playing FFXIV xd
yeah as far as I know he's not even planning on overclocking, so I have no idea why he wants to buy a cooler like that
however as I said, I already advised him against that, just looking to see if there's any suggestions based on the rest of the parts
Does anyone know when this GPU is coming in STOCK? I've been waiting for over 3 weeks
And will it come With CALL OF DUTY?
Any help will be appreciated
Do you have auto notify on?
Yeh
@austere condor What ballistix elite is that? The 3600c16 Rev.E ?
Ah, I didn't know that bin shared the heatspreader. I realy like the look/feel. Bit crowded on some boards though
its older gen DDR4 from X99 era
doesnt play well with Ryzen
but works fine on intel
@west finch, I recommend using a different motherboard, such as the MSI B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard which at this point comes with the bios updated by new-egg, and will cost significantly less then the one you have now for the same function.
and paying 112 for 2 tb is a bit of a bad deal, you can get 3 for less then 80.
and again, making it look nice is kinda not my strong point but your card is also overpriced for its function as well.
and the stock cooler on your cpu should do fine unless your going to overclock like @sudden turret. however, I would recommend buying a noctua cooler for anything in that regard.
so, just to show you how much money you could save, if you just wanted function instead of aesthetic and water cooling, I made a list of parts that are about 10 to 15 dollers cheaper together, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fzBHhg
its got a ryzen 9 3900x, 32gbs of 3000mhz ram, (which you could change to somthing with less latency for about 16gbs) 4tbs total storge with 3tb hard drive and 1 tb ssd. I got you 2070 super, a good Deepcool case with extra fans, and your mointer.
the ryzen 9 is better then a ryzen 5 3600 by a massive margin, and great amount of ram is not necessary, its just to press a point. the ssd and hhd are both great, and chepear and have great capacaty then the one you have.
hope I was helpfull.
so why again does that build have 64gb of ram
and you don't need those case fans, save $30
Whats the point of a 3900x for a gaming only computer?
Wouldn't he be better off with a better gpu before a $500 cpu?
@fossil hedge
yeah id go 3700x +2080/S
Take one look at phoronix, puget, openbenchmark etc - we're really enjoying some nice options on themarket imo - I think I'll save my bickering fo the next dry spel a-la 3rd through 7th gen intel.
@deep skiff i recommended a 3600 because from the benchmarks I could find on 1440p there's no noticeable difference from a 3700x
Ok
Hey I have an unused fan slot because a radiator is in the way... anybody know how id go about plugging it from airflow? Its just this open hole thats affecting my case pressure
case pressure doesn't really matter IMO
@deep skiff I'd agree with @west finch the 3700x doesnt make sense for a gaming PC, its only 2-3% faster or so in gaming, but it costs over $100 more than the R5 3600. really right now, the two best options for a gaming PC is either going to be the R5 3600 or the i7 9700k.
yeah but who said it was a gaming pc? And the 3700x would be more future proof because devs utilize more core/threads
I clearly said it was a gaming only PC
3600 best value, 3700x less good value , but far, far from "bad" value imo
I don't have any issue with people getting the 3700x, it's an amazing CPU
it's just not worth it for a solely a gaming system over the 3600
for gaming it's not even value anymore, it's just that the upgrade to 3700x won't give any noticeable improvement if you're playing at 1440p or higher
sure, there are literally thousands of combos, we can narrow down what to help you look for with a budget (mainly), what games you play, target resolution, ect
@little osprey okay, what do you need?
I’m on a budget but I want a good motherboard processor and liquid cooling on my next build and has to be amd
Ryzen
Budget and liquid cooling dont go together
what is your budget? define budget
and honestly unless you're doing heavy overclocking an AIO is extreme overkill
if you're just doing gaming at stock speeds, especially with one of the mid-range ryzen chips, you will probably be fine with the bundled cooler
$900
I have a fx 8350 with hyper evo 212 right now and average around 8-10c highest is 32
I just want to upgrade my motherboard processor and case
are you able to reuse your case, hard drives and fans?
probably a ryzen 3600, any gigabyte/msi/asus motherboard (probably b450) depending on your other needs (wifi, pci4)
It uses micro atx
need wifi or no?
Nope
I want to be able to mount the cooler at the top
something like a 3600 + https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145081?Description=b450 gigabyte aorus&cm_re=b450_gigabyte_aorus-_-13-145-081-_-Product and literally any case you want still leaves you with plenty of room to upgrade GPUs
What’s the 3.1
I have 3.0 right now
what usb revision it supports
And I don’t use windows
I use Linux
wait that one doesn't support 3rd gen ryzen
This one is am3+
I have fx8350
I want to go to am4
that is what i just suggested
Does it have a 3.0 connector on the board for the case
I have a front 3.0 connector
but you said you want a new case too
I do
I’m just transferring the hard drive dvd drive power supply to the new case
And fans
And do the new cases I saw they have preinstalled but are they 3 pin or 4 pin
the fans? depends on the case but probably 3 pin so you can plug into the motherboard
there are literally hundreds of cases, so just find one within your budget that you like the looks of. corsair, nzxt, fractal all make really nice cases, and the first two have lots of more budget oriented options. if you are going to keep your current GPU, i would recommend something like a ryzen 3600 as that's the natural upgrade path for you imo, and this motherboard https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145081?Description=b450 3rd gen ryzen&cm_re=b450_3rd_gen_ryzen-_-13-145-081-_-Product
that motherboard will require a bios update for the 3rd gen processors
so actually scratch that
i would presume that board is flashed with the bios that support 3rd gen ryzen but you would have to double check with newegg
Does the new cases that have the usb 3 but 2 ports only have one cable or 2
I saw one case that has 2 3.0 but is it one cable for both ports
i have no idea, you will have to find your own case as i don't know what kind of case you want, what kind of looks you want
A full atx
That can also handle a micro atx
any full atx will hold a micro atx
But I saw some had 2 ports on the 3.0
find one you think looks nice and go from there
It was hard to tell from the pictures
I saw the 3.0 cable that plugs to the motherboard
I don’t know if there’s another one or 2 in one
ok so you want to spend $900 total for a cpu, motherboard, and a case
Right now I just want a bigger case until I save up more money
Then I will go all out
I have a mid tower right now
dude you are really confusing, you asked for motherboard and cpu too, but you want to wait to go all out
I saved those two processor and motherboard
I printed it out
i mean if you have $900 to spend now on a cpu motherboard and case, and want to put a nice video card in later that changes things
I’ll wait
I’m still in school
I just want a full atx case
ok we're on different pages, you said budget so i showed you a more budget cpu and motherboard
there are literally hundreds of cases, just sort them by how many front usb ports they have
I just want to know is it just one 3.0 cable to the motherboard
wait a sec, like i said if your budget for just cpu and motherboard is going to be ~$800 you can get much beefier stuff than what i suggested
he first said budget, then i suggested a 3600 and a b450 motherboard
but if he has $900 total to play with for a case, cpu, and motherboard that's a much different story
well thats a ryzen 9, a good case and motherboard easly.
okay i have a few questions if anyone has the time?
depending on what he's doing he may be better off not getting a ryzen 9 and just getting a 3700x or something and taking that extra money towards a gpu
but if he needs or wants intel or has other needs, that changes things too
or a 9900k or whatever
well for linux or any kind of coding signal core will be better optimized for that kind of work flow.
hence why i was trying to fish more info out of him
makes sense.
@analog otter what's up?
what " few questions" may I attempt to aid in
Okay so I have recently started a stream and cannot get it to run without buffering and basically picking up hardly any of my stream this is my current specs what would I need in order to get myself running smoothly?
Graphics is XFX GHOST
thats quite a bit older
I'll see what I can do about upgrades, but you might want to consider just getting a new system.
my only issue being i dont have the kind of money it takes to build one or buy one
what kind of money do you have? (for upgrades or otherwise)
well i have about 500 at the moment nut was also thinking that i might would just be in a better situation gettingmaybe an omen or something like that?
meaning financing from hp but not sure if i wanted to take that jump if i didnt have to
I can state that you video card would most proububly increase your streaming perfromince, however,
I am also searching around for good upgrades to your cpu
i have been trying to build a new one for a while but every time i try a price goes up or what i would be getting is obsolete
well, yeah your computer is mostly comparable to my TV, then my laptop.
I am checking to see if its a better idea to buy a new cumputer, or upgrade the one you have now.
I am mostly just checking parts and prices. shouldn't take more then 15 minutes.
sucks to hear but i know its true and okay thank you
not done yet my freand, we still have checking to do.
okay
might I ask how much wattage your power supply is and what rating it might be?
@analog otter?
cool thanks be back in a minute
so, looking at your parts, I got to tell you, you do actuily have a pretty good system. for 2005. however, your systems parts or at least some of them, can be reused. first off, your case, it has ok airflow, and works if you were going to reuse it, so I put it down as reusble and moved on, for cpu, ram, motherbourd, and GPU, I dicided you need a upgrade, you can't stream on that card very well.
so put simply I specked out the parts you need, I got faster ram, and if you don't want to you can just reuse the old ram you have.
that list has the parts you can buy, it has a 2700x for a great price, and its going to run your game a lot faster if your streaming that kind of thing. I got you a 590, its good entry card, and honestly its going to have price cuts in a few months.
total price is about 17$ over your budget of 500, but honestly if you want something now, its going to get the job well done.
as for long term, the bourd has bios flashback so you can buy a sleek brand new ryzen 3000 chip later if you wanted to upgrade, so to aviode your fear of outdeted stuff.
everything is upgradable and its a good system to start off of, to work your way up to much better systems later, avoiding the loss of money.
okay and say i wanted to go higher with the gpu what would be a good idea?
and thank you for taking time and helping me even though you didnt have to.
and i knew it was about time to start upgrading when i had to startopening my case for more airflow im probably going to have to get a new case as well
yeah well you could also get new fans or somthing but yeah, that mouthbourd is in my list is proububly the cornor stone of any new system today, its got usb biosflasback so you can upgrade to any new ryzen 3000 chip, you power supply is still great, and yeah a GPU is somthing to upgrade but for streaming it comes down to the amount of cores in your CPU and how much ram you have to support that kind of multi system workflow.
so, things to buy: CPU, new motherbourd, new gpu, new ram.
if you need any more help, I'd be happy to comply.
to tie into that, nvidia gpus have the capability of offloading some of the heavy lifting of streaming to a dedicated chip on the GPU
so if you at some point upgrade to a newer nvidia gpu, that will lessen the impact your cpu feels, if you choose to use that encoder
Does Call of Duty comes with every RTX cards?
Thanks
depends if the retailer is participating in the promotion @onyx hollow
it will say on the store page if they are
@coarse coral Like I want to buy Aorus 2080super but it doesn't say it will come with CoD bundle although its sold by Newegg
probably because the one that is in stock right now on newegg is not sold by newegg. Its a marketplace seller
because you need to pick newegg as the seller
the gpu you currently want is sold out
@onyx hollow
I know some Aorus products are going to be arriving at retailers in the next 2 weeks. Hopefully the 2080 super will be one of them.
@warm nova yeh I hope so, I've been waiting for this card to be in stock for over 4 weeks
Anyway thanks @warm nova @coarse coral
If you don't see it anywhere by next weekend let me know and I can see if I can find out when more are coming.
its been selling out pretty quickly on newegg last three months
Yo i have this weird cable and i dont know where to put it help please
thats a usb 3.1 cable
its for cases that support usb 3.1
usb 3.1 gen 2 front panel connector @verbal bone
One suggestion plz. Should I go for the Msi card or Aorus ? Which one will be best value for money?
best value? depends on your brand preference at this point
there are reviews out there
so y ou can compare
i dont have experiance with those cards
i'd personally go with evga @onyx hollow if you're looking for a solid brand
good warranty, good support, usually a good rating all the time
well I am a Pratt and would probably buy the cheapest ones with the best reviews.

@little osprey pulled some magic today
getting a pretty baller gaming PC built
for $70
What'd you find
I need to hurr up with that test run setup for the toasty build haha oops
core i3 4340
8GB DDR3
H81 motherboard
case and PSU (with a spare am3+ board)
XFX RX 470 4GB
and i have a 1TB seagate drive i bought for $10
$35 for the CPU/board and ram
$20 for the GPU
$5 for the case power supply, and the AM3+ board in it
Not bad - what's the slot power draw like on that? That boards no worry I bet, but I see 4xx Polaris cards cooking those dell / hp etc slots rated for 15/35W sometimes.
Probably. 470s, 480s are just notorious for pulling 100 W from slot sometimes.
Really only a concern on 480 + cheapo mobo or with triple, 4x configs on boards without the support for that.
I picked up 3 of these recently since I was ordering from evga anyway, $5 each lol - I'd use one if/when I ever try putting a Pascal/Turing my one of my optiplex KA/LA mobos. https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=100-MB-PB01-BR
Introducing the EVGA Power Boost! This small adapter plugs into an empty PCIe slot, including x1! It provides clean power to your PCIe bus, improving stability. Learn more here.
ya, but you got the case/psu for $ 5 lol - use the PSU for a lab +12V supply
that PSU
an old timer Cooler master case
and a biostar Am3+ board
lol
for $5
Lot of cool accessories by EVGA. I half wanna buy an eepower.. but if I'm zombie modding a card e.g. reference PCB 1080/ti anyway - I can just build that myself
I keep a EVGA g3 650w spare for a testing psu
So, some jank 10 year old cooler master I have no intention of keeping for a testing psu
Lol
Haha same, with my ebay g3. I use other,more expendable units when testing stuff that could go wrong and blow up the psu though, cba to bother with a protection filter etc.
A 920W brushless + 4s esc killed a hp cs 750 plat for some reason when cutting throttle under load
MSI ARSENAL GAMING B450 TOMAHAWK AM4 AMD B450 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard https://m.newegg.com/product/9SIACVB8S95832?m_ver=1
What processor would fit this
I want one that’s 8 core
And is this a good motherboard
i can use that case, or i can see if i can find a cheap case local to put it in
@austere condor can you help me with this
I thought it has to be a specific one
the tomahawk is one of the best B450 boards you can buy
This is my first time with am4
you can put a 1700, 1700x, 1800x, 2700, 2700x, 3700x 3800x into that board
all 8 cores
Hold on
And liquid cooling
And what case would you recommend
Phanteks Enthoo Pro Series PH-ES614P_BK Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case https://m.newegg.com/product/N82E16811854003?m_ver=1
I was looking at this one
ok im back
sold a system. lol
ok, so for a case, i can make a few recommendations, but i dont have a lot of personal experience with higher end cases
I just one so I can put Corsair Hydro Series H100x Extreme Performance Liquid / Water CPU Cooler. 240mm (CW-9060040-WW) https://m.newegg.com/product/2KY-001T-00027?ignorebbr=1&m_ver=1
And my motherboard is an atx
I would recommend against buying a AIO liquid cooler
they are generally more expensive than the performance they offer, and are beaten in performance by cheaper, air coolers
But I’m on a budget
large, high performance air coolers are more effective at keeping your CPU cooler than an AIO cooler. but, the AIO coolers are generally an asthetic choice, since a lot of people think they look better, but you do need to understand your trading the top end performance and spending a bit more money to get an AIO that looks better
MSI GeForce GTX 1050 Ti DirectX 12 GTX 1050 Ti GAMING X 4G 4GB 128-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready ATX Video Card https://m.newegg.com/product/N82E16814137054?ignorebbr=1&m_ver=1 and will this work with my motherboard
Oh
what is your budget?
I just want a 4gig one
how much do you have to spend for this PC you're wanting to build
what country are you from
No more than $800
and when do you plan on buying this PC
what power supply do you have?
if you dont know, take a picture of it from the side that looks like this
Idk
EVGA, Corsair, Cooler Master, silverstone, seasonic?
CORSAIR RMx Series RM750x CP-9020179-NA 750W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Power Supply https://m.newegg.com/product/N82E16817139233?ignorebbr=1&m_ver=1
I would recommend something like this
get yourself a Ryzen 5 CPU, a good B450 board, good 16GB of ram, a 1TB SSD, and a RX 5700 graphics card
How much total
I’m sticking with this board
Since it has a usb 3.0 connector on it
What about cpu cooler
Can you send me the link on that
DIYPC Skyline-06-RGB Black Dual USB 3.0 ATX Full Tower Gaming Computer Case with 3 x 120mm RGB Fans(Pre-Installed), RGB Remote Control and Hot Swap Docking https://m.newegg.com/product/N82E16811353134?m_ver=1
@austere condor what about this case
most boards in the past 5-6 years have a USB 3.0 header on it
so...
you dont need to worry about that
and wow is that case atrocious
i have built in the S3, and its a case i highly recommend
@little osprey
and the CPU comes with a CPU cooler in the box
so you dont need to buy an extra one
that is the zalman S3
the case I recommend
why do all ur builds look the same 
Hello friends. I have some questions about pc parts
I think I need advice on where to go to buy them but I might post my build too so ppl can have a look-see
@coarse coral I've taken your advice so I'm going for Evga 2080 super Ftw3. I personally like this card because of its overclocking capability.
Nice!
Can someone help with pick out a case so I can mount a water cooling system on top
How do you guys like my third iteration of my PC
@coarse coral
@sudden turret
@warm nova
@little osprey
@gaunt zinc
That HAF will have much better airflow than the old lian li, but the lian li is a classic
Yeah
dont get rid of it
I know, I’m going to probably get some 80mm fans and some new wiring in the future for it
The wiring is extremely old in it
Like to the point where the rubber coating for the wiring is getting stuff and going bad
80mm 
This is the second time im going to warn you to stop spam tagging @grand ridge
mike, im not tagging one person more than once
jeez
i dont know whats changed mike but you seem to be on edge a lot
What? LOL
Yeah ok, make this a 'Me' problem.
how would you like me to effectively tag multiple people without "spam tagging"
and yes YOU are the issue
Here's a better question. Why do you need to tag 5 users? Like most users, mods, and even myself we ask our questions to the community. If ppl want to answer, they will.
fine, i apologize for being excited about getting a nice case
guess ill just shut up and never speak in here again, because it seems as if im not welcome here
what fun it is to watch
however I might point out I also could be considered for spamming.
if putting that number of tags is.
I need help on a case
@polar holly have a look at this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VGDQ7T
@polar holly would gaming or media editing be the main focus of the pc?
Of course it comes down to needs
both
man 1660S's have gone up in price cause none of them are available
I just want the gaming x from msi
for the rgb


I'll wait for the hollidays or cyber monday
avoid the tuf 5700 xt
Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/hardwareunboxed Merch: http://crowdmade.com/hardwareunboxed Radeon RX 5700 XT - https://amzn.to/2Js33xB Radeon...
uhh, what should I do instead?
Replace it for a Sapphire card
I tend to trust a company that focus on one brand only now
or powercolor
do you guys have any specific reccomendations for ones? I am pretty much a total greenhorn
Or even XFX for that matter
and a lot of this jargon goes over my head
any reason you choose that monitor?
I just see that there are some 75 hz mointers with better latency and ips panels for about 1 USD cheaper.
so I put one together, which again, is rather presumptive, but maybe some of my ideas might save your some money. your cooler is cool, I like it. your cpu, not so much. AMD, is good and all, but you got the 3600, instead of the 3600x which wants I spec-ed somethings out, I could get. then I noticed your ram, your paying to much, for stuff that has the same cas latency and price to 32gbs ram. and then again your overpaying for your 5700xt, normally a really well rounded card. so I exchanged it for a 2080 rtx card, which at the moment is on sale. So I know your not going to like what I did with your case and motherboard, but hear me out, I look at functionally and not looks, the phantecs case is easy to work in, and the motherboard is overpriced. your buying the same function, for a greater amount of money. I saved you like 20 USD, which is not much, but it adds up. but, you can save like 70 USD, if you buy a motherboard thats got usb bios flashback, you can just update the bios, for again, a huge drop in price. so I made 2 lists, on with just a mouthbourd that works out of the box and another with the price defect and better parts because of a cheaper motherboard. again, I am a budgeter, for good parts, good function, same price less looks. I thrive off of the tears of RGB enthusiasts.
@old charm https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wpptgJ
by the way @twilit escarp nice case.
Thanks still building it lol
... that’s not overpaying for a 5700 xt
@old charm https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6R93b8
and I’d swap that m22 out for a top tier air cooler or cheaper 240
@fossil hedge a lot of this wasn't my doing. I had computer saavy friends who have built pc's before help me with a vast majority of this

@fossil hedge Yeah. Even while they were helping me they kinda got carried away with making it "look cool" imo even tho I said that I am more a "function over fashion" type of person
I am still mulling over what to do
I am trying to understand this haha
cool yeah mines deffntly not in the favor of looks, but I highly recommend a ssd that I put in there, the mothbourd, and just trying to get cheaper parts that have good reviews.
I kind of thought the Monitor was especially a waste of money, as there were better ones for like a dollar less.
but yeah, its cool to try to help people, and if you need any more questions answered, I tend to be around to help.
@old charm can you help me
Any suggestions?
@little osprey what'up?
I found a case
Let me send you the link
Phanteks Enthoo Pro Series PH-ES614P_BK Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case https://m.newegg.com/product/N82E16811854003?m_ver=1
What liquid cooling should I get
And do you have to add anything when it gets shipped to you
Or do you just put it in your case mount it and the bracket and plug it in
You should probably ask someone who has actually done this before. I'm pretty green at this kinda stuff myself @little osprey
I’ve tried but no response
I can ask someone else I know for you but they're not around at the moment
I have a ram question. anyone here who might be able to help me pick an appropriate upgrade?
hey I'm on, first off @summer helm what are you looking for, and what do you have?
and @short arrow heres some edits you could consider: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Cx8hyk, I changed out your ssd, your cpu, motherbourd, and case. your choice on the case of course but the mouthbourd and the cpu are like 10 dollers more for like 50% better perfomince.
Isn't B550 boards this month?
@ripe ledge in time replace the stock cooler with something a little better
So @lime forge how come you're not using the stock cooler on your 8700 non K
I bought the cooler master 220 evo and the bracket couldn’t get close enough to the screws to be tightened down
don't you mean 212?
Got a Mac Pro wifi card question...Is this the right place to ask about it? Or a different chat?
Could ask in #500102781240344576
Just for the people that would focus more on there i would tend to think you know
My build is on an msi x570 gaming plus, could someone recommend me some good coolers for that?
Or aio
Name a few?
i have that one, im using it right now
since you have corsair ram, the RGB will match up too
Could always go for this https://www.newegg.com/p/13C-0005-00113
I love the rgb aio but price is always an issue lol. That air cooler seems good. Noctua is highly rated isn’t it?
one of the best companies and would fit in your system
You know he said price is an issue and you keep showing over 100$ coolers lol
yep, those messages were sent within seconds of eachother, sorry i cant read a million words per minute 🙂
You also have this one as well https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-masterliquid-ml240l-rgb-liquid-cooling-system/p/2YM-0004-00015
I’m just trying to find one that will a) work on my damn mb
b) just be better than a stock cooler even if amd stock coolers are good
Oo I like that
Not pricey either
to be completely honest, if you dont plan on overclocking and your temps are fine, theres no need to upgrade
Oooof
another one that is also pretty good and under 100$ is this one https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16835099003
yo guys i need some suggestions
For the Gamdias coolers i have seen reviews for the 120 and 240 versions which there was never any complaints






